Joel Schumacher DEAD

RIP, Piano Man.

I hope his robes in heaven have articulated nipples.

RIP shitbag

Link

We'll never forget "Batman Forever."

Aaaaand we'll have three threads on him

None of those links work so he must be alive.

One of the worst directors of our time. Such a long career and "The Lost Boys" remains the only decent film he's ever done.

Whoops, forgot about "Falling Down". So I guess that makes two good films.

St. Elmo’s Grease Fire 🔥

he was a ho

I love that he claimed to have had sex with 20,000 people, none of whom (he said) were on the casting couch.

He's probably presenting hole to St. Peter as we type.

I've told this story on DL before, but it's an appropriate time to tell it again. My neighbor's daughter went to Venice High in LA and was in the drama department. CAA's Richard Lovett was involved with the school and asked Schumacher to work with the drama group. They did "Little Shop of Horrors". Schumacher was there daily, working with the kids, giving his ideas and even putting up money. Despite his reputation as a perv, he never made a move towards any of the boys. This was around 98. He publicly said that working on the show made him want to do "Dreamgirls" (which he never did). He was there at all the performances and led the standing ovations.

R8, What bullcrap. He made tons of audience pleasing movies. St Elmos Fire Flatliners, The Client, Tigerland, Phone Booth, A Time To Kill. He even wrote some black classics like Sparkle and Car Wash too.

RIP.

[quote] What bullcrap.

Such language!

Schumacher wrote the screenplay for " DC Cab" starring DL niche sex symbol Max Gail.

Someone get r15’s fainting couch!

Quick!

I didn't know or remember that he wrote car wash, I love that movie and its strong gay character

R14 left out his most important screenplay work.

I now sit alone atop the mountain.

Though very dark, 8mm was also a good movie.

8mm is the only movie where I can stomach Nicholas Cage. That scene where he calls the woman to ask for her permission to kill her daughter's murderer is haunting and heartbreaking.

Oh r3 what did he do?

Originally Schumacher wanted to do the US version of Queer As Folk, but negotiations fell through and Ron Cowen and Daniel Lipman made it.

8MM happens to have one of the best soundtracks ever, but the film itself is pretty awful.

Now will come all the scandalous stories and lawsuits. He'll be canceled before his body is in the ground.

Thank you for that nude fuck scene with Colin Farrell and Matthew Davis (alas, not with each other) in Tigerland.

I absolutely loved his take on Batman. Pure, camp, bright, ridiculous fun. Uma as Poision Ivy will always be an iconic part of my childhood.

I see that Rory Culkin is portraying him in the Halston bio Ryan Murphy is doing. Didn't realize he was part of that scene.

Tigerland

That dirty perv! RIP

Is he the race car driver?

I grew up on Lost Boys and Flatliners and still love both.

RIP, gurl

[quote]DL niche sex symbol Max Gail.

I don't recall being in on that meeting

CAR WASH and THE WIZ were his?

THE WIZ was a play first. The writing owes much more to Charlie Smalls, William Brown and L. Frank Baum than Schumacher, who merely adapted their words, characters, etc.

But CAR WASH is legend. It's important to blacks and comedians, as it's the only movie starring the two greatest standup comedians of all time: Richard Pryor and George Carlin.

It's important to gays, too, because of the early Pointer Sisters performing and this song, which is an anthem:

I just checked out his bio on wiki, and he made some of my favorite movies.

#1 - Lost Boys

#2 - Batman Forever

#3 - St. Elmo's Fire

#4 - Flatliners

Batman Forever was panned by critics, but I totally got his vision for the movie. It had so much style. I loved everything about it.

Those are some of your favorites, R37???

R37. No doubt he’s now discussing muse en scene with Eisenstein, Renoir, Welles, and Kurosawa—you know, teaching them s thing or two.

Won't somebody, please, think of "Phantom of the Opera"?

The tweet in the OP is gone.

Didn’t he use the casting couch? He made a lot of movies with male teenagers

"The Incredible Shrinking Woman" is another favorite of mine.

Wasn’t he a child molester?

"What bullcrap. He made tons of audience pleasing movies. St Elmos Fire Flatliners, The Client, Tigerland, Phone Booth, A Time To Kill. He even wrote some black classics like Sparkle and Car Wash too."

Audience pleasing does not mean good. He was without any doubt a mediocre director. I met him once just before the release of Phantom and he was pretty happy to remind everyone over and over that Batman and Robin, his most lambasted movie, had been a commercial success, just in case anyone had anything to say about it.

He and Bryan Singer are sickos.

Joel Shoe Maker.

"He and Bryan Singer are sickos."

Mary, clutch those pearls. Oh what am I saying, that HAS to be a woman commenting. This bizarre new Victorian Prude posture.

"Falling Down" was fucking genius. Whenever anyone asked why I left L.A. years ago, I'd tell them just to watch that movie and they'd understand. Great script too, from an actor turned writer whom I don't think ever did it again but he got it so right here.

Why are people accusing him of being a child molester with no evidence?

[quote] Why are people accusing him of being a child molester with no evidence?

Because they're homophobic assholes.

In their trollish minds, gay director = molester.

And although there is evidence against Singer, there is NONE against Schumacher.

He discovered Brad Renfro. Enough said.

RIP you dirtbag.

Casting a young boy in a movie about a young boy hardly means he's a predator.

Just looked him up on imdb. He has credits as writer, director, actor, producer, production designer and costume designer.

Is there anything he couldn't not do?

He "discovered" Colin Farrell.

Beat cancer R53

"Is there anything he couldn't not do?"

Make a great movie?

So many classic films.

My first job when I moved to Los Angeles in 1992. He bullied and harassed me.

He has some good movies. He is very commercial. It is gross people maligning someone they don’t know. But this is the world. Makes them feel powerful I guess

He went on a whole spiel about children being seductive.

[quote] He is very commercial.

Not anymore.

May the old pedo rot in hell.

I hated having to shave m'arse hole

St. Elmo's Fire is one of those movies I love to hate. Demi Moore trying to commit suicide via cool breeze!

WASTED LOVE!!!

I enjoyed many of his movies, especially St. Elmo's Fire, Cousins, Falling Down and the Phantom of the Opera movie version. RIP.

[quote] I now sit alone atop the mountain. —Bryan Singer

Not so fast, schweinhund.

[quote] It is gross people maligning someone they don’t know.

Oh Mary, spare us the hypocrisy.

You're on a gay gossip site. You don't come here for the Queen Helene Mint Julep Face Mask tips.

[quote] You don't come here for the Queen Helene Mint Julep Face Mask tips.

I do.

Remember that a blow job lasts 5 minutes but an Oscar is forever.

David Tyler Muir just gave Joel about 30 seconds of love on the ABC Evening News.

Did he die from The Covid?

Did he ever work with Helen Lawson?

Oh. So this isn't about that German race car driver? Carry on then.

R73, are you also R32?

Yes, R74.

It was a joke that was so hilariously funny it just had to be repeated!

Did you have sex with older people?

Mm-hmm. When I was a kid, I didn’t like very young people at all. There was a married man in our neighborhood, but we weren’t having missionary-style sex. We were, as we would say now, messing around. At that particular time, there were no magazines that dealt with homosexuality, no newspaper articles, there weren’t books, there was no education about all of this. I just was who I was.

Looking back on it, do you think you were abused by men?

I never felt abused.

But there are a lot of people now who had similar experiences and do feel abused.

I know, and they have every right to, and they were.

Obviously, there is a serious issue if you’re not the age to consent.

I would think people know the difference between being molested and mutual consent. Legally, a minor is considered not able to make up their own mind, and they’re taken advantage of, but I never, ever, felt that in my life. I know what other people have suffered. I have friends that were molested at early ages. I have a friend who was raped at a very early age. That’s horrific for them. I mean, off with their heads, the adults that did this, as far as I’m concerned. I believe that a person knows when they’ve been molested, and certainly knows when they’ve been raped. But those things didn’t happen to me. There were predators, some guy in Central Park wanted to take pictures of me because he was doing a book on little boys. They’d drive up in a car by your bike and say, “Hey, little boy, you must be tired, why don’t we put your bike in the back, and I’ll drive you home.” I would let them do their pitch, and then I’d go, “Get the fuck out of here before I call the cops.” They thought I was an innocent young boy, but I was a wiseass. I matured very young. What I did see was that when certain people were attracted to me, I could gain knowledge and find out things.

Was there ever a point that you would have called yourself a hustler as a youngster?

No, because money never exchanged hands. But I would say that, like anyone that was considered attractive, male or female, in the big city, I’ve seen my opportunities and I took them.

But I think if anybody reads about any kind of assignation that involves an older person and a younger person, it automatically seems creepy, correct?

Listen, I mean, if I say this I’m gonna be killed — there are very seductive children. I was one of them. I was very seductive at a very young age. That doesn’t mean that anybody who was older should’ve said yes or just complied, but I feel in my lifetime I’ve always been a very results-oriented person.

too lazy to google - why he died?

Wrote the screenplay for the original "Sparkle", a favorite of African American teenage girls in the 70s and 80s.

[quote] Yes, R74.

Thank you, R75.

Because God needed another angel, Rose.

He was a shitty director and I'll always hate him for making such a godawful "Phantom of the Opera".

But my hatred is slightly mitigated by the fact that he sold intentional camp to the humorless, conservative, anti-gay DC fanboys with his batman movies.

Good

Did he still own and live in that Frank Lloyd Wright house in the Hollywood Hills? It's one of a set of four connected Wright houses all within a few miles of each other.

Ah, yes, the Phantom of the Opera movie, where Schumacher decided to make the masquerade scene a black and white ball, with everyone singing about how colorful everything is!

Phantom of the Opera sucked to begin with

R50 et al, there is a homophobic troll who is very prolific on here. One of her personas is very prudish. She is obsessed with, among many other things, Hollywood pedo conspiracies.

Didn't he claim he fucked a thousand guys?

20,000 but who's counting?

I will be forever grateful for the bat-nipples. I would have no problem polishing them every day.

The furor over the nipples on the bat suit.....Losers are still obsessed with this years and years later. God, I hate pathetic, homophobic comic book fanboys.

He seemed like such a nice guy, but with really bad taste. He defended Alicia Silverstone when the press fat-shamed her during the Batman & Robin PR.

Still think it's funny that WB fired Tim Burton for making the Batman franchise too dark and spooky and then they go with Joel and his trippy LSD car crashes that were Batman Forever and Batman & Robin.

BIG.OLD.QUEEN.

Tacky. Won't anyone just SAY IT????

“DL niche sex symbol Max Gail“

This made me laugh so hard. I love this place.

And RIP Schumacher. He sounds like quite a character.

He had miles and miles of dick and tongue in his asshole.

I shall leave instructions in my will, for "Niche Sex Symbol" to be engraved on my headstone.

while it'd be tempting to use the casting couch, it's so dumb to dip your pen in the company ink.

Better to use all that money you make and buy some high end rent boys. Role play, if you must.

They're just as hot; in fact a lot of struggling actors are just a few auditions away from turning tricks.

I couldn't imagine sleeping with some hottie, giving him a role, and then on set he starts telling everyone how he got there.

Who remembers the short lived soap "2000 Malibu Road"

Starring Lisa Hartman, Drew Barrymore, Jennifer Beals, and hot as fuck (was supposed to be a star) Brian Bloom?

God I loved it, was sorry when it got cancelled.

Schumacher directed all the episodes

WHET Brian Bloom?

"I couldn't imagine sleeping with some hottie, giving him a role, and then on set he starts telling everyone how he got there. "

Actually, that's exactly the kind of information that a Hollywood power wants to be spread around town!

If word gets out that you actually deliver the goods in exchange for fucks, every hottie in the LA Basin will be begging for a go at you.

Met him right before the disastrous B&R was released.

He appeared at the comic show they used to do at the Shrine down in Watts. Very nice gentleman.

Shook his hand. Very pasty and effete and then he rubbed my shoulder. I was 21, he was 57. Got a signed poster for the film that they were handing out...no charge. The guy who played Bane was there with his wife and daughter. Asshole. Was dead a few months later.

I know the movie is awful but Uma stripping out of that gorilla costume to the Arabic music was incredible.

I miss those shows. Julie Newmar, Corey Feldman, Gerard Christopher, fat Gil Gerard, some shitty Starz movie with Jeff Speakman and Brian Bloom who were sexy as fuck.

He made some good movies.

I used to go to the Shrine, too.

I'm old enough to remember John Wesley Shipp singing stuff for the original Flash!

I brought my Schemering GL book and he signed it.

Years later, Seth MacFarlane is there signing Family Guy DVDs season 1 and 2; the sales of those DVDs brought FG back.

Seth took q's from what must have been 500 plus fan boys; maybe 750? The shrine's big and I recall SRO.

He must have been asked THREE different times where Stewie came from. Maybe he was asked it multiple times b/c he kept saying 'He's based on Rex Harrison from My Fair Lady' and nobody but the nine gay guys there knew what that meant."

I got some GREAT comic books back there in the 1990s. I'd see some DC 100 Page Super Spectaculars there for good prices and in good condition. They go for a lot more now.

those 100 page Super Specs go for BIG bucks now.

With Candice Bergen and Diane Keaton.

"Batman and Robin" was amazing, though.

Thanks for the nipples.

Thanks for the mammaries

Man, Chris O'Donnell was so cute and fuckable as Dick Grayson.

A bit whiney but as close to that character as one can get. Shame he never got a Nightwing movie.

He was “commercial” for sure but no one can deny that he had one hell of a good run. And a legitimately good movie in Falling Down. I only know of a couple people who have met him and all said he was a pretty nice, soft spoken guy. And thanks for that find of a pic, r106.

RIP Joel, and thanks for dishing before you died.

Now if only everyone else would do the same -- I'm looking at all you other hack Hollywood directors and actors who've been in the business since the 70s and have decades of dirt to dish!

The Wizened

Ooh what was the dish!?

A successful career and a great life. RIP

Jealous, biches?

Thanks for the mammaries.

Thanks for the mammaries.

"Man, Chris O'Donnell was so cute and fuckable as Dick Grayson. A bit whiney but as close to that character as one can get"

Well, except for being orphaned and adopted at age 28.

At the time WeHo rumor mill had it that straight O'Donnell was so grossed out having to submit to Crocodile Joel's tender ministrations that he freaked and abandoned his career for 10 yrs. His family had to come and rescue him. WTF did the old queen do to sweet innocent Chrisy?

^^ Nuthing that he didn't do ta me mate.

The flower is the power boys.

Have you ever met a real vampire Corey?

Prety obvious tat Corey was playing a gayling in Lost Boys. Did Joel decorate the set?

Jason Patric was smokin hawt in LB. Compared to the rest of the cast he was acting in another film. Please don't tell me Auntie Joel was tapping this...

You obviously meant to post this in the "How many miles of dick have you sucked" thread since this guy has got to be an icon in that one.

This thread is really homophobic. Assuming this guy was a terrible pedo/person because he what... had sex?

Falling Down was a masterpiece.

I also loved St. Elmo’s Fire, The Lost Boys, Phone Booth - and yes, Batman Forever because of Jim Carrey & Val Kilmer.

RIPJoel.

Hey, we love Schumacher.

^^ Hi Bry.

I did love the Minnie Driver tribute to him on Twitter where she said another actress was complaining about Minnie in earshot of Minnie and Joel - the other actress saying Minnie was over the top

And Joel said, without lifting his eyes from his newspaper, "Honey, no one pays good money to see under the top."

Great tributes from those he worked with like Kiefer Sutherland, Anne Hathaway, Seal, and Jim Carrey. And unless it was some great coincidence, Colin Farrell hung out with his Tigerland costar Shea Whigham yesterday after Schumacher's death was announced.

Finally I can sleep on my stomach.

[quote]Did you date famous men? I’ve had sex with famous people, and I’ve had sex with married people, and they go to the grave. I’ve never kissed and told about anybody who gives me the favor of sharing a bed with me.

Bad gay! You could've been an utter legend, Joel. Imagine if he'd written a Cassanova type book. Straights have had those for centuries but gay sex is still too taboo to discuss, apparently.

[quote]RIP Joel, and thanks for dishing before you died.

He did not dish.

[quote]Nuthing that he didn't do ta me mate.

You were too drunk to notice, Colin.

[quote]RIP you dirtbag.

He was an elegant dirtbag and I loved him for it.

I CAN'T EVEN FATHOM being on the set of batman forever and batman and robin and seeing o'donnell, kilmer and clooney in those extremely homoerotic rubber suits standing and walking around! wow, wow, wow!...

[quote]DL niche sex symbol Max Gail

Maybe niche in the mainstream but not on DL, I think Max Gail's stuffed pants are the one thing everyone here agrees on.

R138.... PLUS, gail was packing in the rear end too and thankful wore snug polyester/nylon pants too per that era...his successor in that type of beefy butch masculine sexiness was Bubba (actor alan autrey) in "in the heat of the night" tv show...

His costumes on Interiors were genius, disguising Geraldine Page's girth to make her look thinnish.

But did Joel sample Max Gail's double digit wonder or that beefy round ass?

I will always adore Joel for temporarily firing a snotty entitled coketired Feldman off THE LOST BOYS set, to teach him a lesson for showing up late and bitching about exhaustion to the busy crew. Schumacher really went for it yelling at him and it was amazing, like a full scream of “GET THE HEEEEEELL OF MY SET!!!!!”. Has me cackling every time I think about it.

There’s even a scene that play out the incident verbatim in the LifeTime movie about the Two Coreys.

R62/R122 fuck off. Both Coreys liked and respected Joel despite a contentious working relationship with him, and both have said in the past he never tried shit with them. Frankly Joel never had the clout to cover his tracks if he’d wanted to go for boys so famous or so young (at the time of shooting THE LOST BOYS, Haim & Feldman were just 14 but already big names).

But yes R123, it is quite obvious in retrospect that Sam Emerson is meant to be a Gayling character. Amazing what you could creatively imply in ‘80s movies...

r124 Very lucky guy if he did tap Jason!

Re:67 one thing I am not is a hypocrite. I get what DL is. But I also think accusing someone of pedophilia especially someone that just died, is serious. Would you do it in real life? Actually you probably would. Just because you have no morals doesn’t mean the rest are like you. Mary!