Bitch whining about how Ansel Elgort “raped” her when she was 17 and he was twenty

How romantic.

He was awfully judgmental about La Spacey after Baby Driver.

omg ansel elgort getting cancelled 😭😭 do timothee chalamet next ❤️ he didnt do nothing im just tired of seeing him

Sounds like consensual sex she regrets to me. 17 is old enough in most states.

What's her problem? She may have just cancelled herself. No guy would want anything to do with her.

How old was he, it sounds like it was years ago this happened.

He was 20 in 2014 when it happened.

R6 2014 apparently. Ansel was barely famous at the time.

Gotta return the first few post-coitus calls, buddy.

^^ pardon my unnecessary hymen

They can’t cancel Ansel

what did she expect to happen when she DMed him?

This is why celebs should never fuck their fans.

And why the fuck would anyone want to fuck celebs? they are riddled with STIs

Wait! I thought Ansel was gay...

R3: I co-sign this 100%. Cancel them both! Please

Not victim blaming, and I’m no fan of this douchebag but... did anyone else have trouble even parsing her story? It was very vague. What did he do to her exactly?

Did I miss a memo about a change in the definition of pedophile?

Well, this is the last thing I wanted to read. I really like Ansel, and hope this isn’t the genuine article. Why do so many women report these bad experiences years ago later?

[quote] This Tweet is unavailable

Chalamet stans work fast. I'll give those middle aged housewives that.

I wish Ansel Elgort would Rape me.

Apparently there’s a girl with Snapchat screenshots where Ansel sent her pics knowing she was 15. Also, he said never to tell anyone as he would get in trouble.

Why would any man want to be straight nowadays? These women are like landmines. They’re all raised on Disney shows and delusional beyond belief. This is real life not a cartoon, sex is not a loving/kissing missionary experience... it’s getting pounded until he cums.

Note how she says “in his 20s” to make the age difference seem more vague. He was 20, Bitch.

Where are these nude pics of Ansel?

I think of a man... and I take away reason and accountability.

NOOOO!!!!

It is massive. Poor thing didn't know how to handle it properly.

I know this will make me sounds like a cunt, and I wrote something similar during the Aziz Ansari saga, but having regrettable bad sex isn't the same thing as being sexually assaulted. Similarly, not being particularly attentive or responsive to the needs of your partner during sex does not make you a rapist. It just probably means that you're bad at sex, as in my experience most 20 year-olds are.

She was throwing herself at him, saying she "loved' him!

I wouldn’t have been intimate with a 17 year old when I was 20, but then I also wouldn’t pose nude for my father and post it online. He’s a weird guy

If you can’t handle the Anaconda don’t swim in the Amazon.

Sounds like the 17-year-old and her supporters are borderline “special”. Re-categorizing regrettable sexual encounters as sexual assaults/ rapes seems to be what #MeToo is now promoting. Bad or regrettable sex is like bad pizza. You learn from it and take mental note to never order from the same place again no matter how hungry you are. But you don’t stew over it and write a NYT op-ed equivalent review about it, escalating and misleading the traumatic aftermath to the Nth degree.

What a fucking cunt.

^^^Meant to say then-17 year-old and her now supporters

[quote] Bad or regrettable sex is like bad pizza.

There is no such thing as bad pizza.

Homegurl likes to use the N-word.

She was 48 hours from her 18th birthday???? And she's calling him a Pedophile???? She needs to get her head checked!

If you're going to act like "WHORE", darling... then poeple are going to treat you like the whore you are!

(Trust me, I would know)

Lol her response to R34:

“Not me I got this account later that year from someone who was black thanks though for your concern“

Bullshit, Racist Cunt!

She spent months wondering what she did wrong. It gave her PTSD, panic attacks and in need of therapy? She now wants to heal. Give me a fucking break, buzzword bitch!

Now the TwitterIdiots are eating each other alive over whether her racism is a problem or her rape is being invalidated by her racism...!? Rape is winning.

R38 Stuff like this makes me glad I'm not Generation Z. They sound totally insane.

She’s free to press charges and go to the police. If he ghosted her and she’s pissed, he may have thirsty messages post-“rape” that show she wasn’t traumatized... if he could prove she’s lying he should sue her, but in America we kowtow to Women’s constant instability.

If every girl or gay who's first time was unpleasant and awkward, where would we be?

R34 Can we call her Karen now?

He’s a douche but this is ridiculous.

sounds like she wants money.

R44 sounds more like she wants sympathy, ATTENTION!!, validation of her victimhood, ATTENTION!!!!, praise, adoration and ATTENTION!!!!!!!

This is just like an episode of SVU in that all parties involved are just awful, but we still have to decide which is more morally repugnant.

Of course most reasonable people will know that she's crazy but unfortunately for Ansel, so are most of his fans.

SLUTTY FAME WHORE

Any tweets that are not flattering she is blaming on the account’s alleged “prior owner”.

This bitch is a liar.

Can we cancel both?

Wait, why didn't she just create her own Twitter account? And if she assumed someone else's Twitter, then why keep those Tweets up? Is this what people do to gain followers now?

Apparently the prior owner of the Twitter account was Cis Female POC who also craved white movie star dick.

She did a poor job of clearly describing rape as she never even claims to have said "no" or tried to get away from him. Then again, she was a minor so maybe that point is moot. She does an excellent job of describing a repugnant sexual situation and what an egotistical sleaze Elgort is. And since he comes across this way always, the story is easy to believe. It really does remind me of the accusation against Aziz Ansari, and we all know how well that turned out for him. Spielberg must indeed be reeling from this. West Side Story is sure to take a hit. This won't just go away.

[quote] Then again, she was a minor so maybe that point is moot.

She was the age of consent in NY State.

Shit like this makes me so glad to be gay. I've never had to deal with all the insanity that goes with fucking women.

R35 two days from her 17th birthday

Sounds like she was looking for a Disney fairytale where he would fall in love with her and they'd live happily ever after but he, like most men his age, was just looking for a warm hole to pump and dump his load in.

That's real life, honey.

Ansel has a great ass.

But it wasn’t “rape-rape”

Damn I'd count myself lucky to get a crack at that big d

R58 but it couldn't last forever!

R56 2 days AFTER her 17th birthday

You're my baby, you're my pet

We fell in love on the night we met

You touched my hand, my heart went pop

Ooh, when we kissed I could not stop

You walked out of my dreams and into my arms

Now you're my angel divine

You're sixteen, you're beautiful and you're mine

Why didn't she have this revelation during #MeToo?

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

R62 she dmed him two days before and it happened two days after

R66 so.. She was... 17?

[quote]The only words that came out of his mouth were "we need to break you in."

OK back when I was 17 and had I been getting pounded by a hot blond stud, those words alone would've made me cum like a horse.

he's Hideous

hope his career is over

My only surprise: He raped a girl.

I'm not seeing anything incriminating on her twitter...or is it just me?

Why have we’ve raised girls to be such babies? They need to toughen up and be put in self-defense classes as children. Too many of these girls are raised to be perpetual victims and are bred to believe that they have no control over their sexuality beyond dressing like whores. They’re raised to believe that their vaginas are something sacred. This girl had a bad first time. Her entire piece reads like a pamphlet for rape “victims”. Guys can’t read your minds.

R71 I agree. Just generic messages they exchanged and an innocuous photo that doesn’t even look like the girls profile photo. If she’s not a bot, she sounds immature for her age.

She’s a rabid blm supporter. There was speculation that ansel may have used the N-word when he was in high school. perhaps this is her way of getting revenge. Even if true, still unconfirmed, It’s clearly a shitty reason to go after someone who’s been a human rights advocate the whole time he was in the spotlight.

R74 = idiot.

[quote] we need to break you in.

Well one of them certainly has a future in writing porn scripts.

six years ago she was begging dudes to fuck her on twitter! She's a clout chaser! Attention whore! Cancel this bitch!

R75=moron

I think there's more to the story than what she's telling. She messaged him saying "it's my birthday." So? Did she just want a "happy birthday" from a celebrity or what? I wonder what she was expecting him to say. How does that progress to sending nudes and meeting up in person for sex? It didn't cross her mind at some point to say "Gee, maybe I shouldn't be doing this"? Just because he's a celebrity doesn't mean you can't tell him "no."

And 17 and 20 aren't really that huge of a difference. It isn't like he was some 30, 40, or 50-year-old hitting on a teenage girl. It seems to me like she was doing what she wanted to do, thought she was going to be his girlfriend, and was hurt when she found out she was nothing more than a piece of ass to him, so now she's taking revenge. Either that or she just wants money. If you're a celebrity, you should be very careful who you sext, send nudes to, and hook up with. All sorts of things could happen as a result. You can't just do it with random strangers because you're horny.

I wonder what she said when she saw that huge piece.

r79 She held of for 6 years and throughout #MeToo. My guess Corona made her bored.

Her mother obviously never knew how to discipline her properly.

R82 Please don't dilute the brand.

R27 I agree with you. I know multiple people, including my sister, who are survivors of sexual assault/abuse. The label every bad sexual experience as "rape" cheapens what they went through, and will just make it harder for actual victims to get the help and support that they need.

I feel bad for Rachel Ziegler, the newly discovered actress who plays Maria. If you look at her Twitter, she says “Believe Survivors.” Is she about to pull an Alyssa Milano?

I’m sorry, I think victims should keep this private, not shout it to the world, unless they’re willing to file a police report. The public is not in the best position to judge the veracity of allegations.

[quote]There was speculation that ansel may have used the N-word when he was in high school.

Someone posted that in high school they were reading aloud and the words "Niger River" came up and reportedly Elgort kept saying N-word River.

[quote]And 17 and 20 aren't really that huge of a difference.

You can't tell the people on Twitter that who are screaming that he's a paedo.

[quote]Someone posted that in high school they were reading aloud and the words "Niger River" came up and reportedly Elgort kept saying N-word River.

R86 Oh god. If he wasn't doing it on purpose than he sounds like a complete dumbass.

I got raped when I was 12. My male babysitter told me were playing "Smear the Queer"! Well, I got "smeared" alright, and I've never been the same!!!

This is actually taking off. Ridiculous

Insane

Not listen to, BELIEVE!!

But he was so hot. Why'd he have to turn out to be a rapist? What a waste.

A true warning disguised as a playful joke?

Guess what? These “survivors” and the alleged perpetrators aren’t the only stakeholders. Other stakeholders include people who’ve worked with Ansel, people who are up-and-coming actors like Rachel Zegler, people who have worked hard on film sets.

We have no duty to believe the people who come forward. If you want to be taken seriously, file a damn police report!

R94 to file a police report would be too traumatic! But to publicly expose the crime to Twitter is healing. Police would question the victim and that would be scary!

seems she had a bad first time and he wasn't very attentive of her, so now she's calling him a rapist. all i really wanna know is, if it's this easy to get with him, why don't we have nudes yet?

At first I thought she was going to detail some sort of anal rape situation like the guy from that musical group in Canada did to a fan. This could work in AE's favour to dispel the gay rumours. Unless a lot of young girls come forward he should be ok. There are also n-word rumours out there, those may be harder to deal with....Ansel is in for some complicated and expensive damage control.

There's a huge difference between "Rape" and "Regret".

This slut regrets not broadcasting to the world SOONER that she bagged a Hollywood actor!!!

She's pathetic.

He can't help that her little vadge can't accommodate his God-given endowment. Stop big-cock-shaming Ansel!

Daddy Steven will come to his rescue. WSS is his passion project. He’s not about to see it go down because of a twitter callout.

Between this and The Goldfinch, I think his career is pretty much over

Spielberg to 20th Century Studio right now:

How much will it cost to Irishman up Christopher Plummer?

Ansel is too young and outspoken he’s not the type to be silent about this.

Verificata?

Did she call the cops? When you are raped, you call the cops. It is as simple as that.

She has taken down her Twitter. Lying SLUT CUNT. This is literally a game to these girls. Women are fucking sadistic.

She sees $$$$$ in her eyes.

you can get cancelled by one single vague accusation made on Twitter? Why isn’t everyone cancelled then?

Meh. Not surprised.

She should "disassociate" herself with social media. What a load of crap.

Legally, whether it's considered rape or statutory rape would depend on the jurisdiction. Age of consent laws vary from place to place, as does the age of the person who might have charges filed against them. Some places give a few years of wiggle room, for those who aren't far above the age of consent. Some places also consider it rape if consent is withdrawn during the act because of serious physical discomfort.

Morally, if you keep hammering away if your partner is sobbing in pain and is not sobbing "... hurts so good", you are a total asshole. And you deserve what you get if that partner decides to get revenge later.

R111 at this point they’re withdrawing consent after the guy has fucked them, bought them lunch the next day, dropped them off, ghosted them and 6 years has passed.

Jesus.

She keeps trying to make it sound like he was sooooo much older than her and she was underage. "I was 2 days from my 17th birthday!'" "I was just a kid!"

She was 17. He was 20. She consented. She expected him to read her mind. Enough with the drama.

Girl, stop. You lost your v-card to him, the sex hurt like he does for a lot of women, then he blew you off. Can we please stop with this shit?

[quote] if you have to belive someone, belive the victim, cause at least if the girl is proven wrong, you will have belived a liar and not a predator

Someone posted that on Ansel's Instagram. The problem is, what if it all comes down to a he said, she said. Should Ansel's career be ruined over an accusation?

Did Ansel pop Timmy’s cherry?

He might as well commit Sui- his career is over.

Actually, I don't think his career will suffer that much.

METOO is last year's news, the media and the fashionable people are now flocking to a different cause, this will be forgotten pretty quickly.

R117 but college aged girls are his biggest demographic and they are the biggest metoo supporters.

Could Be

Who Knows

OP = deranged Ansel Elgort fanboy

I guess the old queens on datalounge think straight boys are dying to fuck them

r107 - you see the need to defend an actor you have a crush on

His head is oddly shaped. Why?

OP=another misogynist rearing his ugly head.

He's an absolute douchebag, but he still doesn't deserve this.

Well.... now there's a 15 year old claiming that Ansel was trying to bang her... asking her if she had ever been with an older man.

His career is done. Good thing he comes from a rich family.

Now, if real, those screenshots at r126 *are* damaging.

Jesus what an idiot. Didn’t his team sit him down and tell him not to do this shit? If you’re a celebrity, everyone is going to make their own receipt of your interaction. Everyone.

Spielberg should go ahead and release West Side Story to streaming platforms because the movie is dead at this point. There's no way to promote a movie where the lead is accused of raping a minor.

R126 Oh shit. He might've been able to talk his way out of these accusations if it was just one girl. But once they start to multiply, it's game over.

Ok, I can't enlarge those tweets. I can't read 'em

Ansel has talent, charm, and money behind him. My money is on Ansel the hunky pussy hound.

This is why many male celebs just use escorts. Things don't get messy.

I had my hole rejuvinated so it is like 2 and he fucked me in my 2 year old hole, does that count?

R126 She says she was 16 at the time, not 15

Name a white woman under the age of 40 who is not completely insufferable.

"Believe victims" is the worst thing to happen to victims since... well... sexual predators.

At least he's rich, famous, white, and attractive so he probably won't have to face much legal consequence (if any). Just a big, embarrassing public scandal, no more roles in A-list movies, and having to stay off social media. But he has plenty of money to live off of so he'll be alright.

He was 20 years old. Who cares he is a hottie.

“It’s my secret Snapchat so don’t tell anyone!!!”

He was much older than 20 when he hit at the other much younger fan.

I feel bad for the WSS crew. They probably though this was their big opportunity, and it's all crushing down.

There was always something passive aggressive about Ansel. Clearly the boy was already in a dark place.

And like every other person his age, he can't spell for shit.

Yeah, R128, I wonder how or if it'll affect WSS. Not that it wasn't a stupid idea to remake it in the first place.

R140 He was 20 with the 17 year old and the 16 year old in Georgia, and 21 with the French 15 year old.

[quote]This is why many male celebs just use escorts. Things don't get messy

Wanna bet?

R142, let’s never forget that’s the real tragedy.

He was so hot in Baby Driver. Would eat his ass and then fuck him

on top of everything else, he’s borderline illiterate. I’m not talking about “ u=you” He couldn’t spell a single word correctly, or convey any coherent point... “I know I want me and u know I want u”

...?

That is how pedophiles talk when when they're talking to teens online, r149. At least on To Catch A Predator.

r115

Yes. When Timmy started sobbing, he just told him to "take it, bitch" - but when Timmy came all over himself in the end, he conceded it had been the right course of action after all.

That's the shorthand that's commonly used in texts. It doesn't mean a person can't spell correctly.

R152 what is the shorthand? Misspelling “guarantee” is a shorthand? How so? Bragging to an underage girl that you “want” YOURSELF is shorthand??

He literally left the 'u' out of guarantee, R152. That's not shorthand. He didn't shorthand anything.

[quote] and 21 with the French 15 year old

Oh, she's French? Were they in France when he hit on her? Then at least he wouldn't be in legal trouble.

His career is doomed. He has no special talent. All he has is his looks and good looking guys are a dime a dozen. You can go to just about any mall, gas station, restaurant, bar, etc., in the world and see 10 different young men just like him. There is nothing about him that makes it so Hollywood can't afford to lose him and it will be too big a risk to cast him in any big movie now. It sucks for him, but at least the loss of a good acting career is preferable to prison.

[quote]He literally left the 'u' out of guarantee,

When you're typing on a phone with your thumbs, that happens all the time. Quick text messages are not academic papers.

Camille Paglia would have a field day with Gabby.

Tough call. He's an entitled douchebag and she's a gold-digging slut.

So all these screenshots are from 2014 (including the one with the even younger girl). I bet he thought he was in the clear when all the #MeToo shit was going on and his name never came up. Little did he know these girls were keeping these screenshots around just waiting. I'm curious to know if he stopped once he realized what could happen to his acting career or if more recent accusations are going to come out in the near future.

So far the evidence and accounts suggest fairly sleazy creep, rather than actual rapist, but will see what else comes out.

R161 can still mortally wound a career. What’s the verdict on James Franco? Is he considered over or is he quiet by choice?

Sorry, R157. You're right. He probably doesn't have spell check on his flip phone either.

r163 when you're doing a quick text exchange, you often just type it out and hit send. The same people who do this often know how to write proper English when necessary. That's how modern life is.

Ansel Engelholf is DONE!!!

Sure Ansel, @R164.

Sorry you don't know how the modern world works r166.

He's never going to fuck you, R167. Get over it. He's an illiterate idiot.

R160 I read on another forum that he coerced a younger actress to "service" him during a recent film production, threatening to get her fired if she didn't, so no, I don't think he altered his behavior. And there seems to be proof of that allegation floating around as well. He might actually have a mental problem. Perhaps he's a sociopath? He's been such a messy sexual predator it amazes me that no one in HW knew. Or did they? Maybe Spielberg deserves the meltdown that's about to happen to his movie. WSS is a family-type movie. Not anymore.

While I think all of this is bullshit, Speilberg can just swap out Elgort with Taron Egerton and no one will know the difference.

r168 I have no interest in fucking him, I was just explaining how texting works in the modern world.

Spielberg and the studio must be shitting bricks right now. WSS is supposed to be the big Christmas tentpole movie and it cost a fucking fortune.

This is going to stay on twitter. I doubt anyone is going to care. The me too hysteria is long over.

R171 brushing up on text slang from her Obama phone

R172 it’s going direct to Quibi

We'll see where it goes, things are getting pretty shitty right now.

R173 It's already way beyond twitter already. I'm sure the accuser has been threatened every which way (and is now terrified), but the damage is done. Ansel is done. I wouldn't be surprised if they reshoot WSS with a new actor.

I'm surprised more management companies don't have it in the contract that a client cannot do social media until it is vetted by them. There have been so many fiascos for years now.

Aren’t there stories about Spielberg & boys?

I did not know!

Reading the comments in this thread was a mostly disappointing experience. A few were good, but most of them were crass to revolting. The spelling tangent ... jfc ...

Gay men are the fucking worst sometimes.

[quote] I wouldn't be surprised if they reshoot WSS with a new actor.

Because of the Pandemic, it would be impossible to reshoot WSS. The cast is too large. The logistics wouldn't allow it.

The project is as good as dead.

[quote]Gay men are the fucking worst sometimes.

half of the posters are women.

It’s ridiculous that we can’t release it. Like we’re fucking children who will run screaming if an accused is viewed on screen.

Oh dear, that dumb girl is going to win the Darwin Award soon.

She's going to end up disappeared or dead of an "overdose."

You don't fuck with that much potential Hollywood movie revenue and get away with it.

Apologizing won’t work. It’s best to deny. I learned the hard way

I bet there are next day texts between Gabby & her BFF: “OMFG! You won’t fucking believe!!!! I just fucked ANSEL FUCKING EGORT! His dick is sooooo bigggg!!! Squeeee!!! OMG what if I go to the Oscars!!! Omg if we get married we’d probably live in Beverly Hills!!!!! Like you and I could swim and shop all day!!!! I’d be rich!!!!”

Two weeks later: “Ansel won’t respond! WTF!”

One month later: “Ansel is a fucking asshole! I’m throwing away my Baby Driver DVD!”

6 years later: “I think Ansel Raped me! #metoo 😢”

I don’t know who this guy is, though I’ve read his name, but anyone cheering this girl and piling on him, needs to be canceled. Sandra Oh? You’re dead to me.

And anyone who doesn’t understand the difference between pedophilia (being sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children) and being a 20-year-old screwing a 17-year-old, needs to be blasted into space. Fuck off, Twitter know-nothings.

One of these metoo guys need to file a massive defamation suit against these Twitter users who spew “Pedo” at anyone remotely accused of sexual misconduct.

I was attacked when I was 17, I told the cops that day. He was arrested the next day.

Half the posters on this thread are cleaners. Trust me. There are two pr threads. This one and the 5sos thread. The 5sos one was a putting out feelers to guage the crowd thread. One of the 5sos members had a sexual assault claim which was withdrawn due to cough cough something. This smacks of Hollywood pr cleaners who are panicking because of his upcoming movie. The excessive aggressive posts backed up with multiple evidence against the alleged victim is classic cleaning.

R190 here. I am talking about Ansel in regards to the movie and pr cleaning not the 5sos guy.

Ansie probably planted this herself to quell the gay rumours.

The one way out for Ansel is to come out as gay. All would be forgiven.

“Sorry Ladies, I’m gay!”

Thanks, R190.

I don't understand why Data Lounge doesn't go with handles/registration date. It would be easier to call out of the bullshit.

I'm certainly not a pr person.

I'm more surprised that he's straight.

R190 There are literally thousands of tweets wishing Ansel death or life in prison that were posted less than an hour after he got accused. However, we're supposed to believe that a PR person is pushing a thread that hasn't even reached 200 replies on Datalounge. Makes a lot of sense. It might be surprise you that DL is not a site that's primarily made up of triggered children.

We should defund the police but people like Ansel deserve the death penalty.

Timmy is probably secretly loving this.

[quote]DL is not a site that's primarily made up of triggered children.

Have you actually read this thread. It's full of "you were a lucky bitch/deal with it," "you lie/you loved it," and "Poor Ansel" comments. This thread is full of gay male adults (and I guess women) carrying on like triggered children who haven't developed emotionally beyond their teens.

R200 And yet you believe PR companies are lurking here to influence the opinions of "gay male adults (and I guess women) carrying on like triggered children who haven't developed emotionally beyond their teens."?

R201, I have no idea if R190 is telling the truth. It doesn't seem implausible.

You are the one you thinks this thread is mostly comprised of "adults."

Sure, in name only. It's either these PR people, idiots masquerading as adults who write this fucking disgusting comments, or both.

[quote] It doesn't seem implausible.

Sure, the first thing any PR company would do in such an event isn't issuing a statement, or getting stuff taken down on Twitter - it's hitting up a DL thread which has less than 4000 views.

R190 is gonna have to make the argument. Don't come for me.

But, it wouldn't surprise me if these PR types didn't throw out a wide net which included gossipy cesspools like the Data Lounge can be.

These releases are being managed by a behind the scene legal team that are trying for a settlement. We don't know the other side of the story. However, the team lawyers are licking their money hungry gums for a settlement. There is just too much piling on to make this all seem right. I hold judgement for more information.

[quote]Have you actually read this thread. It's full of "you were a lucky bitch/deal with it," "you lie/you loved it," and "Poor Ansel" comments.

That's not what was actually said.

Ansel probably grew up in a sexually permissive household being that he is the son of Arthur Elgort. I feel bad for him.

[quote]That's not what was actually said.

Forgive me for misquoting: "he didnt do nothing. Sounds like consensual sex she regrets to me. 17 is old enough in most states. What's her problem? She may have just cancelled herself. No guy would want anything to do with her. Gotta return the first few post-coitus calls, buddy. what did she expect to happen when she DMed him? It is massive. Poor thing didn't know how to handle it properly … having regrettable bad sex isn't the same thing as being sexually assaulted … What a fucking cunt … If you're going to act like "WHORE", darling … They sound totally insane."

I didn't really care to revisit what these assholes said specifically.

I fucking hate the misogynists on this thread.Fuck you all.And no,I don’t think someone should be tried and found guilty on Twitter.You can still say that and not give in to the foulness that’s too many of you sink to.Don’t any of you have mothers or sisters that you care about?Pea-brains.

r208 not everything is black and white. She could've had consensual sex with him and then regretted it. She could've been pissed that he treated it like a hook up and wasn't going to marry her after having sex with her one time.

R208 So even by pulling some of the quotes you pasted out of context when they weren't even about either Ansel or his accusers, you still didn't manage to give any examples of what you said this thread was full of:

[quote]Have you actually read this thread. It's full of "you were a lucky bitch/deal with it," "you lie/you loved it," and "Poor Ansel" comments

And I note that whilst you're telling us what awful people we all are - you're still here. Apparently not so awful that you'd stop visiting, eh?

R210, that's not what I'm addressing.

[quote]pasted out of context

Wow. What I posted doesn't change the spirit of what I was arguing and yet you think this observation carries any merit.

I've already written I misquoted and you still ask for evidence. Read between the lines.

The point wasn't what I originally paraphrased and put in quotations.

That keeps going over your head. I'm done with you. Bye.

Bye, Cinesnatch. You still don't know WTF you're talking about.

"I just read on another a thread that he finger banged a girl five years ago!!! OMG, he is such a rapist!!!!"

Go fuck yourselves, you pathetic TERFS.

Does Ansel wish he's gay now?

It's never too late to turn gay, Ansel!

Did Ansel have have high profile movies lined up during #metoo? It is quite the coincidence that this shows up now shortly before the WST release.

Ansel comes off like some dumb, pretentious douchebro in every interview. Remember that snafu with his social media where he uploaded a flood of selfies by accident? Of course, now it's revealed the guy sucks at texting, too. He probably has an assistant who has to tie his sneakers, and he gets alerts on his smartphone when to inhale and exhale.

Sorry, WSS as in West Side Story.

Teenage girls who don't know shit about the world shouldn't be texting strangers. Much less go around meeting them. Just a tip.

This is why women shouldn't be automatically believed when they cry rape, especially when that cry is many years later.

He wouldnt be in all this trouble, if he were better in the sack.

You think that douchebag would make a good lover? That guy has selfish douchbro written all over his face. I bet he never went down on a girl. Of course, he just cares for his own sexual gratification.

Cleaners, shitheads or some of both, as per usual, a couple people get vaporized and a whole lotta ugliness disappears.

Even if he went down on her that night and gave her the best screaming orgasms, if he didn't do it again — or five or ten more times, or however more times she wanted — some people feel wronged and seek vengeance.

R215, Ansel could just as easily be cancelled and called a pedophile if he was gay. Gays are into the sjw movements on social media and love canceling people.

So are the old gays. Kevin Spacey would know.

If there was a rape or some sexual assault, there sure aren’t any receipts for it.

That girl’s story is a mess, and full of holes and questions. Her picture could be shopped. The messages could be faked. Her story is one ridiculous read. She’s in therapy and she tells her story like that?

I don’t know Ansel and don’t care about him, but I sure as fuck don’t believe anything from her or these other girls to this point.

Did he live around all these girls? Or was he on constant road trips?

Yeah the first “complaint” isn’t all that damning, it’s the one up thread to the 15 year old that seems legitimately grimy.

A 15 year old, too?

[Quote] Ansel could just as easily be cancelled and called a pedophile if he was gay.

Can you name some young gay men who've been cancelled? Spacey is an old man.

Awww, the groupie didn't get to go on tour! It's all about me and my truth and my freedom until we get to the bit about personal responsibilty, then it's your fault.

Do these girls even have parents?

The first incident with the 17 yo is nothing. The age difference is small and her "fuck me!" tweet (if not altered) makes her seem a very sexual young lady. Who believes a 17 yo girl looking for an online hookup with a slightly older guy is doing it against her will? Many of my 16/17 yo friends were fucking like rabbits back in the day, and that's just how it is. Losing your virginity is traumatic for most people and to my knowledge painful for many women but this lady seems to think it should've been a heavenly moment.

At this point I need more proof about other claims. It takes a second to manufacture a fake screenshot and one can obviously claim whatever one wants online.

Cinesnatch, I'm not sure what you're complaining about. Are you all worked up because people here refuse to cancel him immediately and without any solid proof? If that's the case then you're most certainly part of the problem.

[Quote] until we get to the bit about personal responsibilty, then it's your fault.

I wouldn't be trumpeted that point of view about a 15 year old or a 16 year old.

[quote] Sandra Oh? You’re dead to me.

Isn’t it just someone with a Sandra Oh avatar?

[quote] Cinesnatch, I'm not sure what you're complaining about.

It’s Cinesnatch. They live to be the turd in the punchbowl.

Has this young lady's attorney made a public statement about due process and next steps yet?

r233 I know what you're saying, but, if you're old enough to be having sex - and let's face it, teenagers being teenagers are looking to hook up, that's just life - you have to take the downside of what comes with that. How do you micro-manage the sex life of a 16 year old so that every encounter is true love and unicorns? I'm not saying ppl deserve to be sexually assaulted, I'm saying that when it doesn't work out to your liking, these are lessons to be learned. We've all had less than stellar sexual experiences for various reasons. What do we do with these? Accuse a bad hookup of rape 6 years later or learn from it and move tf on? And, just to be crystal clear, I'm not talking about RAPE or SEXUAL ASSAULT,

This was NOT rape.

[quote]Are you all worked up because people here refuse to cancel him immediately and without any solid proof?

No. It's the way the young woman is disparaged. It's disgusting. The way women in general are discussed on here is disgusting. I speak up about it. : shrug :

[quote]It’s Cinesnatch. They live to be the turd in the punchbowl.

Okay gramps.

I don't think "teenagers are horny" cuts it as an excuse. Treat others well isn't a terribly difficult concept. It's not hard to check in with someone as you fuck them.

I don't think someone should fuck a fan, though. The power dynamic is fucked up from the jump.

Is it a more effective use of our FFs to all use them on a single Cinesnatch post. She's so infinitely FFable. I used two already, on r200 and r212. I hope some of you will join me in FFing her on one of those two, and maybe we can get her graylined / redbolded.

I adore his hot ass,,,,,but delighted old speilberg mus be sweating his pussy off, how will he squirm out of this calamity???

Neptunes etc.

They will pay off the girl... It's not like this is the first time for HW hunks to put their junk where they shouldn't.

Shimmering.

r240 Of course you are right. Maybe he did (or didn't) check in with her, maybe he didn't respond to her subsequent texts as quickly as she wanted, maybe he ghosted her, maybe she felt used after a one-night stand. Not an apologist for this fucking guy, but being an asshole - and there are a lot around - doesn't make you a rapist.

[quote] They will pay off the girl...

Maybe but it’s in the water now. Ten years from now, someone on twitter will still remember and remind everyone.

[quote]She's so infinitely FFable

I'm a he. And you encourage a pile-on on me, and not the poster who has commented already 25x with some pretty gross posts, amongst other commenters. Huh.

[quote]And you encourage a pile-on on me

Because you are so fucking annoying, cinesnatch r248. And because you're playing the orange-letter name recognition game, I recognize you from other threads in which you were so fucking annoying. Plus "amongst" instead of "among"? Why would I not single you out?

Also, if you really didn't want to be perceived as a woman, you wouldn't have used "snatch" as the noun part of your name.

[Quote] Ten years from now, someone on twitter will still remember and remind everyone.

Rumors didn't kill Sean Penn's career. Lee Daniels even had to pay him for mentioning them in an interview not so long ago.

Spacey, Weinstein etc. were thrown out of their ivory tower. They could have been protected still but it was decided not to do so any longer.

I love seeing celebrities get into trouble, especially for things that involve ‘celebrity-privilege’ such as sexual access.

There are now multiple girls, including a 15 year old. Ansel was attempting to lure her. He asked if she liked older men. He’s going to end up arrested before you know it.

God only knows how many others there are. Do you really think he didn’t request nudes on his “private snapchat”? He’s screwed.

He's canseled.

[quote]And because you're playing the orange-letter name recognition game

I use a name on here because I find the Anonymous tags confusing. And, yes, if people were required to do it, they wouldn't say half the crap they put on here. My 'ignore list" is full. By all means put me on yours if you find me so annoying.

Ansel Elgort literally bragged in interviews about how girls should be scared of him because was like the "most threatening guy ever". He told everyone what he was, of course he is trying to fuck every cute fan that messages him.

It's a bad look, but there is nothing illegal here. 17 is the age of consent in New York, 16 is the age of consent in Georgia. He seems to be very aware of staying within the law.

But yes I imagine a lot of people wont look at him the same way, the court of public opinion is the one that really matters.

🎶 I just raped a girl named Maria...

Tonys should always be gay.

He changes his name to Anise Seed Egwort and gets plastic surgery.

SOLVED!

Next!

And he restarts Michfest!

Elgort has douche written all over him. And she appears to be a belated attention-seeker.

The life of the heterosexual is such a sordid affair.

Ansel's creepy-looking. I think Spielberg should reshoot the WSS scenes with a different actor. Ansel's height was very distracting in the publicity photos.

The link below has Gabby's tweet and texts with Ansel. Both Gabby and Ansel are pretty pathetic. She looks like his longtime ex-GF.

So there is a silly teenage girl who believes she is marrying the celeb she managed to fuck and then will live happy ever after in a fairy tale castle. Shrug. Can we cancel Ansel for being vanilla instead? This poor generation of kids who think bland boring Ansel and drowning rat face Timmy are oozing with the sex! Seriously, arent there better looking actor kids around, are these teenage girls blind or is there really no one else?

I wouldn't say he's entirely lacking in appeal...

R18, nah, it was Brian most likely. Get rid of the competition

r127 and r178 raise pertinent issues.

Reason 899,647,639 and to infinity, NOT to be on Social Media.

Seriously, I assumed that, by now, when making casting decisions, and before offering a role, there isn't a thorough, forensic, every nook, cranny and crevice vetting by of your texting, Snapchat, Fake Book, what-have you posting history going back 20 or so years.

And no, my post at r266 shouldn't be perceived as wanting to sweep sexual assault under the rug.

Every claim of sexual assault should be investigated, with all sensitivity to the alleged victim, for probable cause to file a criminal complaint.

Social media following plays a role in casting nowadays. I agree that social media should be handled by an actor's team. But if Elgort is as much of a creep as he seems (rapist or no), I can't say that I feel sorry for him. It's never unfortunate to see the entitled get their just desserts.

"...to determine whether there is probable cause..."

How will madame Spielberg handle this mess? re shoot it? haha

This is going to make sound like a misogynist, but I don't care. Who knows what's gonna set some women off. These guys think they're fucking someone sane and it's consensual and then as quickly as you can flip a switch, they turn on these guys and are claiming assault and extenuating circumstances. It's all insanity and it takes away from real victims. States have passed revenge porn laws, maybe we need to start looking into passing some revenge accusation laws, because that's all this is.

Muriel get rid of this thread is packed with sexual assault apologists

Yes, this was a legal, consensual encounter that the girl later regretted. There was no assault, there was no rape.

R273, nice try Ansel. Get off the DL bloody rapist.

Say good bye to a long HW career

[Quote] These guys think they're fucking someone sane

Why would anyone think that fucking a fan would be a good idea? It's "normal" for fans to scream at their idol. It wouldn't be normal for a young person (probably female) to go to a supermarket and scream at the hot guy who bags their groceries. The screaming fans should not be engaged with any more than is absolutely necessary. And while this person in the OP may not have been screaming her head off, "I'm a fan" should set off alarm bells in any celebrity. Fans don't see their idols as real people. Nothing good can come of even a casual "relationship." If you're a celebrity, be gracious, sign their poster and get the fuck away as quickly as possible.

Please point out where I am wrong r274. Like I said at post r256, this going to hurt him in the court of public opinion, but this girl did not accuse him of any illegal activity.

[Quote] States have passed revenge porn laws,

Funny how you bring this up but have no words on requesting nudes from under 18s...

[quote] this going to hurt him in the court of public opinion

Which is all that matters when you want a career as a HW star

Very poor judgement of him to fuck his fans. You NEVER fuck your fans. They all think you're going to marry them five minutes later and they'll live happily ever after as kept women/kept men in Beverly Hills. They're all fucking delusional.

R229, James Charles was only 19 when he was blasted across the internet as a sexual predato and was cancelled. It happens ton gay people too.

He was 20 and thinking with the wrong body part. He wasn't first and will not be the last. Nothing to see here. Move on.

James Charles was uncancelled almost as soon as it happened.

[Quote] Move on.

But this is a thread dedicated to the subject. There's other threads you may frequent. Enjoy.

More slut remorse

R282, He will never reach his earlier peaks. He’s been running on fumes ever since. Sleeping with underage gay boys is a surefire way to lose a career. Young gays have twitter too.

Besides straight people have been uncancelled too. James Franco still has a tv show while Spacey was fired overnight.

[Quote] Sleeping with underage gay boys is a surefire way to lose a career. Young gays have twitter too.

Say what? His accuser went to his hotel room and made out with him for an hour, before bitching that Charles was talking to other guys in the aftermath. And the old lady who outed his supposed inappropriate behavior, people turned on her pretty quickly.

He’s not ugly, but he’s just... really not all that attractive. I think maybe his lips are his best feature, but they also contribute immensely to the resting smug face so who’s to say

R286, Charles lost 5 million subscribers in a week and was dubbed a sexual predator. His brand is finished.

r288

He has 18.8 million followers on Instagram, and 5.9 million on Twitter (Twitter is a dying platform among young people). Anyway, this thread isn't about James Charles...

[quote] James Franco still has a tv show while Spacey was fired overnight.

The Deuce aired its final season last fall.

R290, which was 2 years after Franco was publicly accused of assaulting his teenage acting students

R289, doesn’t change the fact that he got cancelled. Being gay isn’t protection form being called a sexual predator or cancelled is my point.

Look, the world is full of predators. Kids need to be made aware of that fact pretty much the day they are born. Guys like Ansel take any sign as an excuse to creep on girls, even fangirls who are just chasing some stupid fantasy of a guy they think they know because they watched a few movies with him in them.

Social media? More like Stranger Danger!

Of course not. But if someone's cancellation lasts a week, it doesn't really count.

R261

[quote] The life of a talent-free heterosexual is such a sordid affair.

[quote] which was 2 years after Franco was publicly accused of assaulting his teenage acting students

His characters became less prominent after the accusations though. He’s lucky that David Simon was at the reins and Simon has such a strong relationship with HBO that Franco stayed.

Franco’s IMDb isn’t exactly popping these days.

The real issue is the girls probably thought this was the start of something real r292, where Ansel is trying to pump and dump.

R293, when it’s as intense as his was, it does. Besides he will never reach his earlier heights. It took him a year and half to get the subscribers he lost in a week back. His brand is forever tarnished even if he was “Uncanceled in a week”.

James Charles certainly was canceled for a hot second. Then when he came clean revealing he's still a virgin and the straight guy he apparently was desperately trying to bag was revealed to be bi and not at all refusing Charles the tide turned.

That old makeup hag attacking Charles wasn't about him being a deviant homo but him doing a commercial deal behind her back. She used the gay angle as an attempt to try get him canceled but in the end was left looking a terrible asshole she is.

[quote] But if someone's cancellation lasts a week, it doesn't really count.

Social media never forgets. There's always at least one who likes to contribute a reminder of past indiscretions of the topic's subject matter. That's why we still call Andrew Sullivan Milky Loads, for example.

R298, Even when she was exposed for lying, she still didn’t face the amount of viciousness James did. It was a gross situation. Young girl and gay sjws are the worst.

The problem is that even when you're innocent that sort of attention sticks and people remember you for the wrong reason and keep a bad impression of you in the back of their head even when you've been vindicated.

Now...

What does Prima Ballerina Girlfriend say?

Violeta Whatshernameskaya?

You know, Elgort's publicists, managers, and agent HAD to have sat him down at some point, and explained the dos and don'ts of avoiding career suicide. DON'T fuck your fangirls or fanboys. DON'T perv on jailbait or virgins. If you do, DON'T leave a written record for fuck's sake! And whatever you do, DO NOT FUCK UP WHILE SPEILGERG IS DEPENDING ON YOU!!!

He didn't listen, apparently because he's a douchebag who thinks he can get away with anything. And the thing is, "West Side Story" was poised for disaster without this, what with the pandemic and the fact that nobody cares about the musical but a few old theater queens... but Elgort is doing to take the fall for it regardless.

So reached out to him, he replied, she agreed to see him, she got in bed with him and then in the middle of it, changes her mind? Then she waits 6 years?

This is such bullshit. If you wanted your first time to be special, then make it special with someone you know. Don't call up strangers (and celebrities), get in bed with them and then wonder why it isn't some Hallmark movie of when you lost your rosebud.

Tired of this shit.

[quote] And whatever you do, DO NOT FUCK UP WHILE SPEILGERG IS DEPENDING ON YOU!!!

I doubt he could have predicted he would have been working with Spielberg when all he had on his resume was a supporting role in the Carrie remake. Lately, he was doing everything that was expected of him, posting black squares on instagram and pandering to the woke crowd. None of that stuff matters apparently, the woke crowd will still turn on you.

[QUOTE] [Franco’s] characters became less prominent after the accusations though.

They even killed one of his characters off halfway through the final season.

The strongest parts of The Deuce were always the female characters and the gay storyline.

Elgort isn't even cute or hot, never understood his appeal.

R307, large penis.

I don't think he has a large penis. If you have to resort to seeking out small, tight pussies for you cock, it ain't large. coz his small, tiny cock would feel nothing in pussies that has been around the block...i.e. loose vag.

The pic at r264 makes it look sizeable.

I think his problem is he is in a Kevin Spacey situation. He has a bad reputation, truth or not there are rumours about him and not behaving on set.

If you don't have nothing to hide you go into attack and sue the girl (it's not the first case on the Metoo that ends cancelling the supposed victim) but probably that's not a good idea in his case because even if he proves he is not a rapist there are other things that will come to light that he probably prefers to hide.

Anyway, people are cenceled by dozens lately so the cases are forgotten at a high rate. And let's be clear, twitter is not real life, most of twitter storms are absolutely nothing. So unless this reach a high point and appear more girls with new accusations he'll be safe just keeping his mouth shut (yes, he is not the most talented of his generation, or the most handsome, but he has the connections)

This hasnt been reported on tv or anything. Most people who are not indoctrinated in the SJW cult know he did nothing wrong.

[quote]He has a bad reputation, truth or not there are rumours about him and not behaving on set

Can you share some of these?

[quote]I don't think he has a large penis.

I'd have to disagree, especially given the photos showing his bulge - which he clearly likes to show off. It would explain his air of unearned confidence.

[Quote] Most people who are not indoctrinated in the SJW cult know he did nothing wrong.

What is this nonsense? We don't shit about his sex life.

[quote] I think his problem is he is in a Kevin Spacey situation. He has a bad reputation, truth or not there are rumours about him and not behaving on set.

Kevin Spacey was never a sex symbol and had a bad reputation. Elgort, on the other hand, is, or was judging by all the thirsty comments people were posting after he posted that nude photo. He also donated to charities and was involved in activist causes. By all accounts, I would have thought he was one of the least likely to be targeted by Metoo. He says stupid stuff in interviews, but so does Chalamet and other people in his generation.

The reason why I think this is worse for him than it is for Spacey is becuase most of Spacey's fans are adults and Spacey has a much more impressive body of work. Elgort's fans are exactly the type who will turn on their favorite actor for not being woke enough, even if in Elgort's case he was forced to overcompensate for his supposed privilege.

Supposed privilege?

R309 Or he could be someone who gets off on hurting young women. It would explain the victim's crying. And his creepy song lyrics. He sings, but spare yourself. R311 There have been other allegations. They are mentioned in this thread, but you are correct. It's not mainstream news yet and may never be. I'm sure his lawyers are busy threatening to sue people right and left if they dare publish any of these claims. The whole issue of whether his actions amount to rape (probably not) is besides the point. His mistreatment of women will likely make him repellant to a good portion of the movie watching public (women). And that is career death no matter how many lawyers you hire.

Totally hot. Can't take my eyes off him. LOL.

🔥🔥

"And whatever you do, DO NOT FUCK UP WHILE SPEILGERG IS DEPENDING ON YOU!!!"

"I doubt he could have predicted he would have been working with Spielberg when all he had on his resume was a supporting role in the Carrie remake. "

I should have added another publicist's or manager's direction to a horny young actor: "And if there's any chance of a scandal when Spielberg is depending on you, pay the bitch off or hire a hit man. DO NOT FUCK UP ON SPIELGERG'S TIME". But no, Elgort let it all go public, before the release of a Spielberg film that had no chance anyway.

R318- Is that some pale parallel universe version of him!/??

When is that from?

He looks like a 45 year old from Baltimore!

It’s unfair to say Elgort expected to become a marquee name back when he did this in 2014, but his social media and public appearances have veered toward bizarre and tone deaf as recently as this year. Spielberg unfortunately is to blame for this casting and subsequent fallout.

He is excentric for sure and i think (at least in part) the gay rumour came from his fashion style.

There were several blind items that were supposed to be about him about his bad behaviour on set with young actress (of course blind items and truth not always match).

If this doesn't reach traditional media he'll be safe. The alegations are not exactly full of proof and this could easily end vanishing as soon as it started (unless new claims appear and they seem believable)

[quote] Spielberg unfortunately is to blame for this casting and subsequent fallout.

Agreed. r322. When this casting was announced here at the DL, someone here who was disappointed in the choice of Elgort posted youtube vids of the other choices when it came down to 2 or 3.

I had never heard or seen the other 2 or 3 would-be Tonys, but after watching those youtube vids, I thought they had way more appeal as "Tony" than Elgort.

Hello! I was mind-raped by Elson Engellwort!

[QUOTE] He is excentric for sure / The alegations are not exactly full of proof

Double “Oh, dear” for you.

Little bitch OP likes to pick on little girls because they dared to make an accusation against a shitty actor

[quote]I had never heard or seen the other 2 or 3 would-be Tonys, but after watching those youtube vids, I thought they had way more appeal as "Tony" than Elgort.

The funniest part is Spielberg saying he wanted to cast unknowns, and then casting the extremely well-connected Elgort

R328 How would he sell a film with all unknown actors? He would need at least one with some name recognition and even Ansel isn't that well known outside of his fanbase.

R329 Well if Ansel isn't that well known you just asked and answered your own question, didn't you?

Besides, Spielberg and West Side Story alone would sell it fine without a name.

You don't fuck with Steven. Watch out Ansel! This was supposed to be Steven's great comeback, well he never really left, and now that opportunity is ruined.

Thanks a lot, Edsel!

R327, All of these women are in their 20s now. They aren’t little girls.

Hello everyone. Alton Engelsmorf fucked me on Instagram!

Another girl is alleging that he sent her nudes when she was in 8th grade.

[quote] This hasnt been reported on tv or anything.

It’s being reported by every major publication, hon.

Anson Engelhofer sent me dick pics when I was a cloistered nun!!!!!!

[quote] The whole issue of whether his actions amount to rape (probably not) is besides the point. His mistreatment of women will likely make him repellant to a good portion of the movie watching public (women).

He's been dating the same girl he met from high school. Doesn't seem like the pump and dump type at least at this time.

He’s straight?

R338 What? Cheating on his girlfriend makes everything OK in your eyes? It actually makes him even more of a creep. Or are you perhaps trying to say that because he's in a relationship, he couldn't possibly have cheated? Because that never happens with self-entitled douchebags. Try again, PR shill.

But what will happen to Alden Ehrenreich!

I can't be the only one who can't tell those two apart!

Alden Ehrenreich is short and Ansel Elgort is very tall

It’s really not that difficult

R340 they were on again off again.

Oh, brother @ r169.

Are the QAnon, fundie, right-wing trolltards among us again?

It's inevitable on a gossip site. But where is any credible or publicly identified witness against Steven Spielberg? What is the proper name of any alleged Spielberg victim?

I think the proper name is, "Right-wing nutjobs hate Hollywood."

r174 = Naked Right-Wing Nutjob

r184 = Another Right-Wing Slanderloon or Sock Puppet

BORIS & NATASHA ARE WORKING OVERTIME ON THIS ONE!

R330 No well-known outside of his fanbase but he does have a fanbase. Unkown actors would have no fanbase.

"Aggressive posts," r190?

Where?

R335 Let's see them! Pics or it didn't happen!

Then nobody would go into show business or sports, r250.

And nobody would patronize show business or sports.

I don't recall seeing him in much of anything but he's always courtside at the knicks game at MSG.

"Sexual assault apologists," r272?

Statutory Rape is not 'Rape' Rape and it's not even apparent Ansel committed that.

Ansel likes grooming eighth graders

He should be cancelled for his music alone. Jesus fuck this is awful.

He should be cancelled for his music alone. Jesus fuck this is awful.

Very naive of r279 and others to think "you never fuck your fans."

That's what fans want, and that's why stars to be stars. You're living with your head up your ass if you don't realize that celebrities fuck their fans constantly and it's usually a positive experience for those involved.

What is anyone supposed to do to a famous person who has accomplished something positive? Shun them?

Why would anyone pursue stardom if there is no reward? Money?

Lots of wealth makes you famous and earns you fans. And the famous gladly fuck some. It goes with the territory.

I'M SORRY HUMAN NATURE ISN'T BOUND BY YOUR HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT.

Fans can be fucking crazy, it's never a good idea to fuck them.

THE DEUCE: Season 2 was contracted and produced BEFORE #MeToo, idiot @ r291.

And certainly not worth reshooting or shelving.

Sooner or later you need to realize that ALL people are creepy sometimes, r292.

And the end result is often mutual bliss and happiness.

R358, Season 3 wasn't. Franco the rapist should have been fired.

r356, maybe he could try interacting with fans who aren't 15. Just sayin'

[quote] Franco the rapist

When did that happen?

R362, He orally raped a woman when they were rehearsing a scene without her consent.

[quote]agent HAD to have sat him down at some point, and explained the dos and don'ts of avoiding career suicide. DON'T fuck your fangirls or fanboys.

That agent would be unemployed and 5 billion people worldwide wouldn't have shows or sports.

[quote]he's a douchebag

I have yet to see proof of Ansel saying or doing anything douchey or illegal. He's a cool guy.

[quote]nobody cares about the musical but a few old theater queens

Says the frigid, old, fossilized nerd completely ignorant of the $446,486,224 worldwide grosses for LA LA LAND, its accolades of awards, or similar returns from ROCKET MAN, MAMA MIA!, BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY ...

Why don't you just STFU until you actually know ANYTHING you're talking about.

R303 = Jackie Harvey with "The Outside Scoop."

Now SUING this pathetic, jilted groupie would be douchey, r311.

Spacey was violently assaulting people and taking physical liberties with men who didn't want them, including straight guys.

The hell Ansel's "in Spacey's position." In Spacey's cross-hairs, maybe ...

[Quote] He's a cool guy.

Lol

It's high-time we cancelled Paul McCartney for his creepy song lyrics!!!!!

R366, I havent heard one single ellegation against Spacey that ammounts to a "violent assult". Just a lot of groping.

Ansels going to be fine though. He sure isnt going to get the Kevin Spacey treatment.

[quote]I have yet to see proof of Ansel saying or doing anything douchey

So you've not seen his music video then?

If Ansel is the real deal and he’s with the right agency, I’m sure they already have fixers on this

R371 This is right up Ray Donovan's ally!

EEK, r354.

We finally have evidence of Ansel Elgort breaking the law. Drake has grounds for copyright infringement now!

He's finally commented. Just as I thought, a fuck and chuck.

LOL @ "ellegation."

Jilted groupie.

But if I whined, cried, shamed or sued every hot guy who ghosted me, I'd still be a lot more miserable than just an empty slut.

This happened back in 2014. She needs to get over it.

R363, is this the James Franco "rape" you mentioned?

“I was talking to him, all of a sudden his penis was out,” she said. “I got really nervous, and I said, ‘Can we do this later?’ He was kind of nudging my head down, and I just didn’t want him to hate me, so I did it.”

Send Ashleigh Banfield to talk to these girls!

James Franco is complete sleaze. He should have gotten canceled and replaced like Kevin Spacey did. Only reason he didn't is because hes straight and jewish.

Did his lawyer write the letter he posted on IG? Anyway, he is cancelled.

The 2nd paragraph is so fake. Like he's so "disgusted" with himself LOL. Maybe the person who wrote it was disgusted by him.

R381 If Ansel gets cancelled for abusing his fame, as some people like to say, then every young actor who sexted after they were famous should be too. That's a pretty long list in itself judging by the nudes floating around and even that barely scratches the surface. The only thing is different is how the leakers choose to inflict their revenge.

Right-Wing, Anti-Hollywood Nutjob says what, r380?

Your anti-semitism is a dead giveaway you're not honest about this subject, or any.

Isn't Harvey Weinstein straight and Jewish?

Isn't Ansel at least part Jewish himself? Then I guess he'll be fine.

Exactly.

R385 Yeah that's why he was able to refuraly commit forcible rape for so many decades and got away with it.

Until he stepped on the foot of other powerful jews.

I wonder if there is a career field opening up called “Internet Cleaner” where you pay someone to clean up and/or remove all traces of past social media posts. If not, hey kids start working on your new career path.

Society is always harder on gays. Nobody would even give Ansel rhe beentfit of the doubt if these were boys.

If franco had done such terrible things to men hed have been fired off HBO and the Disaster artist pulled from theaters instantly.

Ask kevin spacey. Getting compared to Harvey and Bill because he touched a few knees.

R389 No, but there are PIs who will comb through your internet history and report it to hiring managers. Too bad it's already too late for most of us.

R386, Of course he will be. He's got the backkng of fucking Spielberg come on.

[quote]Ask kevin spacey. Getting compared to Harvey and Bill because he touched a few knees.

And tried to fuck a 14 year old.

R393, Franco is performing forcible oral on underage girls.

Spacey backed off and nobody has questioned what the fuck that kid was doing in Spaceys bedroom with him at 3 AM.

R393 That's coming from Anthony Rapp, who says Yul Brynner assaulted him. Spacey's mistake was to apologize.

I remember the MSM making such a big deal about the harrowing tale pf Richard Dreyfuss' son. The whole article you're thiking its going to reveal Spacey drugged and raped him.

But when you get to the climax, you learn That Spacey once put his hand on his knee. That was it.

r392 = r386.

You want to turn this thread into a cesspool of anti-Hollywood, anti-Semitic, Pedophile Ring Outrage Porn because you're a right-wing nutjob and slandering liberals is your only acceptable form of porn.

F&F THE TROLLS

R396, If Dreyfus' son was instead his daughter and Spacey was straight, that story wouldnt even have been published. It's just plain silly.

A knee touch? What the fuck.

I don't know what repercussions this will have on his career. but at the very least I think his leading man days are over. Even if he's innocent, that stigma will always be around. Meaning there's no way a studio would let him headline films like The Goldfinch or West Side Story.

Of course he delivers the bullshit PR scripted apology that doesn’t even address the rape allegations on his social media.

Once again, he’s straight? I just don’t see it.

I am no fixer or crisis pr guy, but even I know that the worst thing he could do is address rape allegations on social media.

He is addressing them in a fashion, by saying it never happened, and that she's lying because of a bad break up.

No great loss here. He's a douchebag and not particularly talented nor attractive.

R400 Doesn’t know how to read apparently

My sympathies go to the cast and crew of WSS.

Also, my sympathies go to the girl, not because Ansel was an asshole to her and because she had a bad first time, but because she’s so stupid for putting herself in that position to begin with.

It’s time we start holding victims more accountable and stop coddling them.

maybe he can make a comeback in 10 years.

Hope he saved and invested wisely...oh, I forgot, he's from a rich background ...so fuck this cunt! cancel him!

He follows his WSS co-stars Rachel Zegler and Ariana DeBose on IG, but they do not follow him. They must dislike him at the point.

No, you never fuck your fans, if you have sense! Not in the age of big internet fandoms and social media!

Not just because some of them will freak out, or tell their parents, but because those that dont will tell their friends or all your other fans all about it. Including your hygiene, genital size, intoxicant use, etc. That's why the smart actors stay with professionals or in the industry, they'll be discrete.

[Quote]He says stupid stuff in interviews,

I don't think that's the right way to put it r315. He accurately warned people in interviews that he was a womanizer, but people seemed to ignore it and are acting surprised to find out he is a big womanizer.

r409 you've summed it up nicely. It's much too risky to fuck your fans. This is why there are discreet escort agencies. They're very popular with male celebrities to satisfy their sexual urges because everything is kept totally private.

it's definitely not a good idea to fuck your fans, they are already nuts about you, seek you out and you give them attention, you fuck them, they will stalk you forever....

it's definitely not a good idea to fuck your fans, they are already nuts about you, seek you out and you give them attention, you fuck them, they will stalk you forever....

She made the whole thing up. Jaded whore who put out and regretted it!

This story is much bigger here than anywhere else, except for the Twitter crew that wants Ansel canceled.

Seriously, if nothing else comes out of this, WSS is not hurt AT ALL. 95% of the country doesn’t know who Ansel IS let alone know about these accusations.

This place has way too many people acting like ugly high school girls who were unhappy that the hot QB didn’t ask them to prom.

What in earth are you going on about r415? This story is everywhere, google his name, you will see every outlet is running something about it.

OTR = Oppositional Troll Response. People who say the opposite of the consensus in order to create discord and start arguments. Gen Z loves to stir up the shit in this way. The DL has been infected with these bored brats.

"Gaytifa" has infiltrated the DL!!!

[quote]Once again, he’s straight? I just don’t see it.

There's never been any gay rumors about him. I used to go to art schools and Elgort is exactly like many of my het classmates. A bit artsy, slightly more emotionally open than your average straight guy, just as big horndog as all men on the planet. There are possibly one or two blowjobs from men in their past but in the end they find they're straight enough not to care about men sexually.

Elgort used to have an easygoing reputation as an artsy DJ, as well as obviously coming from a celebrity family. I suppose most of his young female fans equate him with his character from The Fault in our Stars, a practically perfect and always happy young man. Now that they are seeing he's into getting pussy just as everyone else their dreams are shattered. At this point I still don't find the claims of him going after 13/14 year olds believable but if there's solid proof well, you just have to believe it.

A classmate of mine in a film school was a guy around 20 whose favorite hobby was popping cherries. When he found out I'm gay he thought it ok to confide in me how he loves being the first one to teen girls. It was like a drug to him. He wasn't even good-looking, he actually was kinda sleezy, but he still managed to constantly bag teen girls who apparently just wanted to get rid of their virginity. He never forced anyone to do anything (or so he said) and apparently he made it clear he was not into dating. At the time I didn't quite know what to make of it all, we weren't close in the least so it's not like I had much to do with him. My classmates, mostly girls, started losing their virginity as young as 13 so it's not like I ever thought 16 year olds are incapable of deciding when to have sex. Girls keep always saying how they are just as sexual as men which is why I find it a bit hypocritical when they suddenly turn into total victims when someone "lures" them into having sex. If you want to be taken seriously stop turning into a victim when things don't go totally the way you planned.

Sure it's not ok if adult men are after girls under 16, especially if they are only 14. That's practically hebephilia (being attracted to 11-14 year olds) and that's definitely wrong in every possible way. It's a shame if it turns out Elgort really is into girls that young but since I'm not exactly a fan it doesn't really concern me. I'm intrigued by the attempts to cancel him and I want to see how things go.

Obviously Hansel (Hansel?) is a hetero horndog, but there were so gay rumors. I remember a few years ago him leaving a NYC hotel with Joe Jonas and going to the U.S. Open together and DL lost it's shit.

So Ansel has issued a denial but foes admit he just stopped responding to her. Still don't get why she waited 6 years

I'd whine too if I had his 9-inch meat whistle thrown up my tight virginal vaginal canal.

R366: He is in a ´Spacey position because nobody in the industry will move a finger to defend him if he is accused formally.

ON other cases a lot of people talk in favour of the accused, that didn't happened no Spacey and i doubt it'll happen if Elgort is accused. He has a bad reputation, it's as simple as that.

On some of the Metoo cases the accusations didn't last long because it was pretty clear that the supposed victim was not a victim at all. On other cases the situation was the opposite

R418: The rumours about him were more about his fashion choices (now it's trendy to be edgy for a male actor but he did that from the beginning) than anything else

He hung around snow queens like Kevin Abstract and Frank Ocean so of course there was going to be speculation. I never thought he was, though. Entitled straight douche emanates from him.

Do guys really like "breaking her in"? Getting covered in her blood and her crying?

R424 cause they’re rapey.

Is that a straight thing or do some gay men get off on that? Virgins are a turn off to me.

Maybe when she took off her padded bra and revealed her tiny lady lumps he realised she's basically dishonest?

[quora] Virgins are a turn off to me.

Virgins are less likely to carry STDs.

Virgins tend to have tighter holes (unless they stuck 9-inch dildos up there on a regular basis).

Virgins tend to be worse at doing sex stuff - but if you’re a dominant partner, that doesn’t matter. You just do stuff to them and they take it.

Virgins tend to be dirtier (don’t know how to douche properly yet). That’s probably the biggest challenge.

*quote, that is

My straight buddy told me that virgin females can be clingy, so you shouldn't really fuck them unless you're really into her and a LTR.

The Ansel incident, or Anseldent, makes him seem about right.

The comments on Daily Mail defend him whereas the comments on his Instagram vilify him.

West Side Story's chances of becoming an awards season player just went straight down the toilet. I think they'll still release the film and with Elgort in it but the promotional campaign will be toned down the point of abandonment.

ROFL I RAPED A CHILD, PLED GUILTY TO IT AND STILL WON AN OSCAR

R433, Yes you did! And I gave you a standing ovation.

And isn't Harvey Weinstein just such a God.

I think Ansel should say he was sexually abused by someone he trusted as a child (whether he actually was or not) and that it twisted his views on sex so he thought it was okay to do these things, but now he realizes it isn't and that he is going to therapy for help. Then he should apologize to his victims. A donation to a charity like RAINN wouldn't hurt either. That would explain why he did it, gain a little bit of public sympathy, and show that he is taking responsibility for what he did while trying to make up for it on some level.

Mark Walberg was a complete scumbag and a nasty bigot from Hell back in the day, but just look at all he has accomplished despite that. And nobody remembers. Hell, Chris Brown beat the living shit out of his girlfriend (who wasn't just some random girl nobody's ever heard of, she is one of the most famous singers in the world) and he still gets top 10 hits and gets played on the radio. If you play your cards right, the public will forgive you for just about anything.

I'm alright with Ansel staying if we can cancel TimoTay

There are SO people defending the accused in Hollywood, especially if there are no receipts or likelihood of malfeasance, r422.

There is nothing rapey to these allegations.

Ansel, Spielberg and West Side Story will be fine. So will those girls who were expecting the moon and the stars with Faults.

As long as Ansel disavows the pursuit of teenagers and promises to be more forthright about his pump n' dumps, there's no need to hate.

The reality is whenever people hear Ansel Elgort they’ll think potential predator. Even if this all blows over, he’s still gonna have haters. Bye bye career.

He should never have been cast in The Goldfinch.

I believe and support real victims, not women who have decided to weaponize their pussies because some douche didn't call them after sex 6 years ago.

He has a great body and he seems gay friendly. He’s really a bad actor though.

He is nothing special. bland looks. bland body.

R440 You and other men may feel this is no big deal, but most women are disgusted. Whether it was rape or just a really vile/pathetic sexual situation, Elgort has been exposed as a creep, and I don't see women paying money to see his douchey face in any movie. His career is over, and WSS is in trouble.

Please, the majority of men would exactly like him if they could. Fuck then chuck. He should release all her texts begging for seconds and thirds

[quote]Whether it was rape or just a really vile/pathetic sexual situation, Elgort has been exposed as a creep

Groupies offering NSA sexual encounters is the oldest cliché in Hollywood, Elgort is a creep for giving the girl what she wanted?

If I were a celebrity, I would never use social media. It's too much of a fucking minefield these days.

It's not that hard to fuck other celebrities.

If he was gay and even looked at another man, he’d be cancelled into oblivion. Fuck him and anyone defending him.

R450, are you for real? No one forced this girl to do anything against her will. A 17 year old girl is not a small child without any free will. She wanted his dick and got it. I assume she wanted much more as well and got pissy when that didn't happen.

[quote] It's not that hard to fuck other celebrities

But then you have to treat the other celebrity as a person. The whole point of groupie sex is that the groupie offers herself up as a cum receptacle, in exchange for lifetime bragging rights.

[Quote] But then you have to treat the other celebrity as a person.

You can treat your one night stand as a person. It's not difficult. Booty calls go both ways.

you old fuckers have to understand that a 17year old in this generation is vastly different from the innocent 17year old from decades ago...

They are already dressing like whores from age 13 or 14 yrs old with 5 inch thick make up. The TV, movies that they have been brought up on, exposed to, the music...did your music idols have back up dancers who are barely dressed and grinding, twerking on stage?

This girl knew what she was doing.

He is young and young people are stupid and make mistakes. I don't think he's an angel but he ain't a devil either...unless more proof surfaces.

Groupie sex is not a booty call. It’s lower than a booty call. It’s literally the bottom tier. It’s even lower than prostitution, because at least the hooker gets paid.

So she knew what she was doing but he was young and stupid? Hmmmmmmm...

[quote]He should never have been cast in The Goldfinch.

The movie would have blown chunks no matter who starred in it. I'm not a fan. I've only seen him in that and the one with Shailene. But the badness of Goldfinch cannot be laid at his feet.

c'mon, he's a young and men are ruled by their cocks. She was knocking on his door, offering up her free pussy...what guy is gonna turn that down?

"This place has way too many people acting like ugly high school girls who were unhappy that the hot QB didn’t ask them to prom."

r415, I have always felt it should instead be, "pointless cuntery."

Timothy gets accused of spreading disease and suffers no career consequences yet the one who’s had a steady girlfriend for years gets targeted for a bad sexual experience that happened before he was famous? Wtf.

R461 Life must be one endless Wtf for you if you can't figure out why a the sum total of Elgort's actions with underage girls is a much bigger deal than a baseless rumor about Timothée that seems to have begun as a joke with no one stepping forward to claim actual harm.

Maybe Hollywood will realize that Elgort is just so much smoke and mirrors like so many of these “hot” young actors and give him the air.

R462 What do you mean sum total? As far as I know, There was one accuser who waited 6 years and had nothing to back up her claim. Having a private Snapchat is not proof.

Spielberg can say a prayer but I think WSS is pretty much fucked now. At least he can use Covid as an excuse to release to change the distribution from theaters to exclusively on demand/streaming.

His REAL crime here isn't fucking a teenage virgin who consented, his REAL crime is behaving in a way that is contrary to his image. No, wait, his REAL crime is being caught behaving in a way that's contrary to his image!

The thing is, a celebrity who has an image as a bad boy can get away with anything, look at Charlie Sheen - he spent years shooting hookers and having public psychotic episodes, and the public chuckled and said isn't he a wild one! But Elgort has been playing good boys and romantic leads in movies, and here he's been caught pumping and dumping virgins, perving on jailbait, and generally acting like the sort of men his fangirls despise. I assume that 99% of his fans feel like they've had a bucket of ice dumped over their hormones, and that the only ones who'll still love him after this are the ones who are completely out of touch with reality.

My advice to him would be to take a year or two off, then try for some "bad boy" roles.

466 It didn’t seem to hurt Noah centennios career that much. Not only are there videos of him jerking off but of him talking dirty. He still gets cast as the romantic lead.

R467... Noah who?

r451 is deranged.

[quote] As far as I know, There was one accuser who waited 6 years and had nothing to back up her claim. Having a private Snapchat is not proof.

We're up to three, dear. Do try to keep up.

[quote]466 It didn’t seem to hurt Noah centennios career that much. Not only are there videos of him jerking off but of him talking dirty. He still gets cast as the romantic lead.

Noah wasn't accused of assaulting anyone.

I'm still waiting for DIVERGENT 4: DETERGENT.

WEST SIDE STORY and Ansel will be just fine.

The "WEST SIDE STORY IS OVAH!" boob is just wishful hate-thinking. This is not cancellable behavior or memorable.

How much does r465 want to bet that WEST SIDE STORY will open this holiday season without a hitch, with Ansel doing talk shows and press junket interviews, with nothing more than more apologsplanations from him and go on to earn more than $100 million at the worldwide box office?

I will place $100 on it now. How much are you betting today, r465?

No people or animals were harmed in the filming of this pump & dump.

West Side Story only earning 100 million worldwide would be a huge disappointment r473.

R469, Is a an asshole who is very Hetero identified.

Thank you so much Ansel and regretful groupie whore.

I'd be whining too if I had sex with a fugface like this guy!

I agree with R473. The “WSS is DESTROYED” poster is a complete fucking idiot and should stop repeating himself on here. Unless these more to learn, this is going away. The girl’s story is worthless.

And now Bieber is defending himself against charges he assaulted a girl in 2014 — but he has receipts and witnesses and she is SCREWED. Her tweets are already deleted.

These lying sluts are making it so difficult for girls who are assault victims.

R396 Spacey touched Harry Dreyfuss' crotch, too, not just his knee.

Is there anyone Spacey hasn't diddled? Elgort can just say he was diddled by Spacey.

R478 Such a forceful defense of a man who preys upon high school girls and co-workers and sings about it. Guess you're a fan, huh? Why stop there? You should be president of the Ansel Elgort Misogyny Club. You can meet at the premier of WSS where you can commiserate about what "lying sluts" women are. What good PR that will be.

By the way, Bieber and Elgort are two entirely different people. Their personal histories, interactions, and characters are not interchangeable. Bieber might be lovely. I have no idea. But Elgort is still a creep and a predator.

R481, I don’t give a shit about Ansel Elgort. I just don’t think people should lose their careers and lives because of someone else’s lies. You have no proof that Elgort is a creep and a predator. None.

I made no forceful defense of Ansel, so I don’t know what you’re talking about. You must be the “West Side Story is over!” freak.

R481, by all accounts, Bieber is a spoiled arrogant immature douche of monumental proportions, not a lovely person.

But if he still has a career then maybe there's hope for Elgort, although I think there are some major factors working against Elgort. Like staking his career on a hugely expensive movie during a pandemic when everyone old enough to be aware of "West Side Story" is afraid to leave the house, and inconveniencing or embarrassing Spielberg.

Bieber is an untouchable super star loved by millions. If the numerous videos of him being racist and all the other fuck ups he's had haven't hampered his success, nothing will.

Just like Michael Jackson.

Bieber's latest project hasn't done too well. Even "superstars" can be over in a flash.

Bieber rapes because HE was raped.

R482 Actually, I am not convinced at this point that WSS will fail. This may, as you say, go away. Did you know Steven Spielberg is one of the richest men in America? And this is his movie. So tweets have been deleted. Accusers have run for the hills. They were foolishly brave in first place. But yes, I’ve seen proof. I’ve seen screenshots of Elgort trying to hook up with girls as young as 15 when he was 21, telling them not to tell their parents because he could get in “sooo much trouble”. I’m not saying he’s a rapist because there is a much higher burden of proof for that. I’m saying he’s a predatory narcissist that makes a hobby of seducing lovestruck girls and then ghosting them. You know, the “lying sluts”. And I think he’ll go right on doing so since his lawyers have told him it’s legal (as he pointed out in his charming message the other day). Besides, most of women-hating America condones this conduct, sometimes even applauds it as we see in this thread. Boys will be boys, right? So we have yet another victory for rich, powerful white predators, like Epstein only younger, better looking, and without his own pervy island (yet), and another loss for powerless, easily manipulated teen girls. Evidently, you feel great about this. So celebrate your victory, why don’t you? I hope you enjoy WSS and all it represents.

ROFL that bitch put a trigger warning on her article? That’s it, I am done defending females. As far as I’m concerned, the trans can do what they want with them, they’ve outlived their usefulness.

[Quote] ROFL that bitch put a trigger warning on her article? That’s it, I am done defending females. As far as I’m concerned, the trans can do what they want with them, they’ve outlived their usefulness.

As if you were ever "with" them in the first place...

These girls weren't innocents, they actively pursued him. He should've had the sense to leave them alone, of course, but they were not exactly forced into doing anything.

If you have the money and you're famous and just want a quick pump and dump, go with a pro. They know the score and nobody is under any false assumptions.

I think you can pursue someone and get more than you bargained for - does that mean Elgort can be behave any way he pleases?

What's a trigger warning?

The young survivor should do a layout in some classy lad's magazine to show what a brave, confident woman she's become. After her terrible experience with Ansel she has finally got the PTSD, panic attacks and bedwetting under control and is ready to live again!

This guy is nothing special. Of course he trolls for groupies. She needs to smarted up.

*smarten

Elgort is entirely to blame here.

Notice I didn't write he committed a crime. Notice I didn't write he attempted to commit a crime.

I do, however, convict him of engaging in gross stupidity.

How is it still not common practice for sexual encounters to sign a document, before and after the sex, that the sex was consensual (and all parties involved claim to be legal adults)? I mean Hollywood bothers with something nonenforceable like NDAs but doesn't bother with that?

Excellent questions, r496.

I swear if I were young and sexually active today I'd get a vasectomy and then if I wanted to be foolish enough to want children say, in my 30s, I'd get it reversed.

2nd, not unless I a have proof of your real name and see a birth certificate, would I be in anything close to a sexual situation with you, including "sexting".

Those here who advocate paying sex workers who've been vetted, have a point. And spare me the pearls -clutching. As a wise person said when it comes to sex, "We all pay for it one way or another."

[quote]I do, however, convict him of engaging in gross stupidity.

Then go ahead and convict all 20 year old men for doing something stupid to get laid. The jails wouldn't be able to hold them all.

R498 They're not all famous

[quote]if I were young and sexually active today I'd get a vasectomy

[quote]—Della

You're...a man?

r498, I want 20 years old people of all genders to get laid often, and well.

The new reality, however, is that you better make damn sure that your partner is of legal age.

And that should have been the old, pre-social media and "Sexting" reality, too.

R500, I feel like this a scoop. I want to call you Deep Throat.

no, r500. I'm a woman.

I should have written "if I were a young man and sexually active..."

Ansel needs to go to rehab! Just say no to underage girls. It's not that hard!

lol, r502

It is particularly creepy how in the one screenshot I saw he asked the girl what grade she'd be in next year - why not just ask age outright, unless he wanted some form of plausible deniability.

He was stupid to release a statement. Should have just let it fade away. You don't need to dignify every crazy bitch with a response.

Regarding consent: FYI, "giving consent" does not mean that you surrender any legal, moral, or ethical right to make a complaint about the activity that you consented to.

If you consent to be driven by someone who's had a couple of drinks before getting behind the wheel, you can still sue or have him arrested for DUI or consider her your enemy for life if you're injured in the accident. If you sign up for mountain climbing lessons and sign a waiver saying you won't sue if you're injured, you can still sue on a lot of grounds. If you consent to spend the holidays with your boyfriend's family, and he hasn't told you that they're vile and homophobic, it's not only okay to dump him and trash him to your mutual friends, it's commendable. And if you consent to sex, and it results in physical injury or has some other undesired outcome, you can still tell the whole world they're a creep, out him to his wife, have them fired for quid pro quo sexual harrassment, and generally get revenge with a clear conscience.

Tough shit if some of you don't like it, that's what the law says, and how society functions.

She's just upset because all she got was a sore pussy!

He’s in deep, deep shit, and West Side Story is in serious danger of being dumped. If this goes any further there will be no release.

r510

What have you heard?

Too much money has been put into it to not be released.

Nicholas Hoult is much more handsome than Ansel

Hoult has been tainted.

Why does Singer continue to walk around free? He must have information on other people and that keeps him out of jail.

Apparently Singer had been careful to stay within the confines of the law in terms of age.

He can’t be indicted for sexual assault?

Is there a fresh allegation?

[quote]Why does Singer continue to walk around free? He must have information on other people and that keeps him out of jail.

For many reasons.

1)Rumors and conjecture are not proof.

2) No one credible will go on the record.

3) Fucking an 18 year old who looks younger than 18 is not illegal.

4) Everybody has a price

5) The difference between how sexuality and consent is viewed based on gender.

Here's the deal. Anybody who has ever lived in LA knows about Bryan Singer and his parties. Those parties are legendary for their ability of connecting thirsty young twinks with older and very famous daddies. The only ones who have talked are questionable, a little bit shady, and might be grifters.

If Singer has slipped through the cracks thus far, they are never taking him down.

[Quote] Those parties are legendary for their ability of connecting thirsty young twinks with older and very famous daddies.

Is that how Robbie met Greg?

There have been a lot of rumors about Singer on the Datalounge that were later confirmed. One Datalounge rumor that was never confirmed was: That within the bounds of the US, Singer was very careful to make sure his little friends and party guests were of legal age. Outside the US, there were places where he felt free to go younger.

So I don't think he's going to jail, not in the US, anyway, but if his career is over because of unprofessional behavior and using the casting couch, that's fair.

R518 A rapped named Lil Phag posted a thread on Twitter about how Singer has gone from young actors to influencers

No comment.

WMagazine jinxed Ansel when they wrote this in January of this year:

[quote] Blissfully Untroubled Ansel Elgort Is Having the Best 2020 So Far

Chris D’Elia lost his agents and all his representation. I wonder if that will happen to Ansel.

At The very least he’s going to have this black cloud hanging over him and he will lose work.its not like the Bieber and Harry Styles accusations, these girls have proof !!

Uh, he admitted to it, R525.

He admitted to texting the 15 year old?

He admitted to having a brief fling with Gabby and then ghosting her after they had sex. He never admitted to rape.

Did he admit to being a really lousy lay?

R530 his face is enough of an admission, no?

How many publicists and 'fix it' men you think old spieberg has hired to deal with the fallout of this star who digs the young uns

You know on the press tour the questions for the randy lad will be......vexing

TEAM ANSEL

He was hot in his high school calendar...body looked more lean and athletic. He grew less attractive in a short time.

[Quote] He grew less attractive in a short time.

It happens.

Why did he have a HS calendar?

Why did he have a HS calendar?

It was for a good cause.

Can't bother to read the entire thread, but she sounds like a zoomer Tara Reade.

I hope you stay married, r537.

He is hot be is too snooty, thinks he is hot shit,,,,,W S story is now DONE, wont do well at all, flopsie

Was it ever going to do well?

I don't feel bad for him or any other straight man falsely accused of sexual assault by batshit women. I've said it once and I'll say it again: this wouldn't happen if they'd just be okay with experimenting with their sexuality. If straight men were just willing to go gay and get their rocks off with dudes they'd never have to deal with this shit.

There's a reason only two gay men have been targeted by Me Too and cancelled (Spacey and Singer). Men don't do this shit. We won't accuse another guy of rape just because we felt like we didn't get the fairy tale ending we deserved.

Women are insane and Me Too has given them a weapon to use against any man who so much as looks at them wrong, but I don't pity the straight men they target. They'll just have to deal with this shit over and over and over again until they realize they're better off fucking a man than a woman.

And stupidest comment of the day goes to R541

I love how R541 has spent much of his life without the right to express his sexual orientation, but still thinks that other people's orientation is just a hangup they need to get over! Hahaha!!

And how he thinks that somehow, all the women are crazier than he is.

lucky bitches who got his cumwads in some mad wild cow sex !!!!

R544, it sounds like incredibly bad sex.

" Men don't do this shit. We won't accuse another guy of rape just because we felt like we didn't get the fairy tale ending we deserved"

Umm yes we do. Especially if it gets us retweets and followers.

R546 Rapp was circumstantial. He played his cards right and told that story right at the height of the Me Too movement. There was a "freshness" in it being a story of male-on-male sexual harassment, which is why the public loved it.

If Rapp had come out with that story today instead of in 2017 nobody would have cared.

Also, name one instance other than Rapp of a male accusing another male star of sexual harassment or assault that ended the star's career.

Is Bryan Singer's career ended?

R548 Not particularly. It's 50-50. He lucked out because not many members of the general public actually know who he is, so his dirty laundry doesn't matter. You only really get cancelled if you're famous-famous.

Not particularly r549?!

No one is hiring Bryan Singer right now, he got fired from "Red Sonja" which was supposed to be his next project and there were no offers coming in to replace it.

Oh, people like Bryan Singer and Harvey Weinstein will be back in the movie industry in some capacity, after lying low for a while.

They're not actors, not like Kevin Spacey, their faces don't have to be out there for a project to work, and they know where all the bodies are buried, so to speak. I'm absolutely sure they know some very useful things about people who still have power in the entertainment industry, and after a decent interval, they're going to apply a bit of leverage in the right places. Roman Polanski came back, so will they.

I'm not so sure. Social media so dominant now. It's a different world.

R551, Bryan Singer might quietly come back, but it will be much more difficult for Harvey Weinstein, given the prison sentence.

I would think it would be easier to be a "silent" producer than a silent director...

Bryan Singer's troubles haven't gotten the huge media attention that Weinstein's had, so maybe he can come back.

Bryan can come back because not a lot of people knew who he was in the first place. The accusations didn't get a lot of press because of the sexism that has to do with the gender of those claiming sexual assault/harassment.

He can come back under an alias or something and do just fine, but if he were smart he'd go live on an island somewhere for about seven years and then come back and resume business as usual. Nobody will give a shit about the Me Too movement in a decade's time, save for instances like Weinstein. But once that old fucker dies the movement will probably die with him.

Under an alias? No, he can't. Not in the social media age.

[quote]Half the posters on this thread are cleaners. Trust me. There are two pr threads. This one and the 5sos thread. The 5sos one was a putting out feelers to guage the crowd thread. One of the 5sos members had a sexual assault claim which was withdrawn due to cough cough something. This smacks of Hollywood pr cleaners who are panicking because of his upcoming movie. The excessive aggressive posts backed up with multiple evidence against the alleged victim is classic cleaning.

What is your problem? The 5sos thread is not a PR thread, I started it and I'm a fan of 5sos, literally, that's it. You also said this on that thread. I do not work for 5sos, the music industry, whatever. There are 5sos threads on other gay forums so I don't get it. No different from all the 1D or Harry Styles threads on here.

5SOS is hot.

Has anything transpired?

R560, nope. Looks like he'll be able to ride this controversy out.

R561 Of course he will, it's a baseless claim from a social media account that deactivated the day after it went viral. Even if he did actually do it he couldn't be brought into court because there's literally no evidence.

R561 who rides out a rape accusation that made press headlines? It can be drummed up forever.

^^ it would be better if he tries to sue her or she takes it to court and loses. Otherwise he will be assumed guilty.

That is true. He might not be in legal trouble, but his reputation is forever tainted. And in Hollywood, especially when you're an actor with no talent who made a career out of being semi-handsome, reputation is everything.

"Forever tainted:? Bitch, everyone's forgotten about it except for those of us who have this on their threadwatchers!

No, BLM and the pandemic have driven this out of the public's minds, and when WSS comes out you can be sure that not one peep about it will show up in the mainstream media.

It may not be top priority, but no one has forgotten what a rapey (or rapey-adjacent) douchebag Elgort is and I for one will avoid WSS and all his future movies like the plague.

I, for one, would be happy to see his taint.

R566 It might have left the headlines and stopped trending on twitter, but from now on every time Elgort is in a new movie or show or play or even a commercial, some asshole is going to be there to bring this up. It will follow him for the rest of his life, regardless of if he's guilty.