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AINT JEMIMA!

The breakfast brand Aunt Jemima is removing its logo and will be renamed, amid public outcry that the branding perpetuated a racist stereotype, its parent company said Wednesday.

Quaker Oats said in a statement that the longtime brand will remove the controversial image of Aunt Jemima from its line of maple syrups, pancake mixes and other foods starting at the end of 2020, and the name change will happen at a later date.

“We recognize Aunt Jemima’s origins are based on a racial stereotype," Kristin Kroepfl, vice president and chief marketing officer of Quaker Foods North America, said in a statement to NBC News. "While work has been done over the years to update the brand in a manner intended to be appropriate and respectful, we realize those changes are not enough.”

Quaker Oats, a subsidiary of PepsiCo, owns the Aunt Jemima brand, which has been around for more than 130 years. The logo featured an image of a smiling black woman that has been criticized for years for depicting a racist stereotype dating back to slavery. The company has made changes to soften the image over the years, including removing the character's kerchief.

“We acknowledge the brand has not progressed enough to appropriately reflect the confidence, warmth and dignity that we would like it to stand for today,” Kroepfl said. “We are starting by removing the image and changing the name. We will continue the conversation by gathering diverse perspectives from both our organization and the Black community to further evolve the brand and make it one everyone can be proud to have in their pantry.”

Pepsi also said the Aunt Jemima brand will donate $5 million to create "meaningful, ongoing support and engagement in the Black community."

The rebrand comes after “Aunt Jemima” became a trending topic on Twitter Tuesday, with many users criticizing the company for maintaining the name and logo for so long.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 57206/30/2020

Mrs. Butterworth is shaking in her boots.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 106/17/2020

“The logo featured an image of a smiling black woman that has been criticized for years for depicting a racist stereotype dating back to slavery.”

Smiling black women are very offensive in 2020.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 206/17/2020

But they're leaving Meg Whitman on the rolled oats container?

What a double-standard.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 306/17/2020

I don’t find that picture racist. She looks pretty and is smiling.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 406/17/2020

They are changing the name from Aunt Jemima to Auntie Paula Deen.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 506/17/2020

So stupid.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 606/17/2020

As Aunt Jemima goes so goes Uncle Ben.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 706/17/2020

Obligatory

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 806/17/2020

[quote]But they're leaving Meg Whitman on the rolled oats container?

I thought that was Barbara Bush.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 906/17/2020

[quote] Mrs. Butterworth is shaking in her boots.

So am I.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 1006/17/2020

Let’s erase all black people from food packaging! That’s going to help!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 1106/17/2020

Apparently the character dates back to mistrel shows as a "Mammy"-type figure.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 1206/17/2020

The racists are up early on DL. It’s absolutely obviously offensive, you dumb old fucks. Thank god you’ll all be dead soon.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 1306/17/2020

“Apparently,” R12? Lol.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 1406/17/2020

Quaker should just change her name to "Trans Jemima" and announce her new backstory as a transgendered sex worker of color.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 1506/17/2020

Me, too?

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 1606/17/2020

[quote]Smiling black women are very offensive in 2020.

Stop being obtuse.

[quote]I don’t find that picture racist. She looks pretty and is smiling.

The name will ALWAYS have racist origins. They just can't change the picture.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 1706/17/2020

Hilarious, R15, And not bad idea. They could leave the logo and barely change the name.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 1806/17/2020

Agreed R15 Let’s all start the morning with some Uncle Jamal.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 1906/17/2020

I will not buy this product when its rebranded! Resist this attempt at a Chinese Communist style cultural revolution.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 2006/17/2020

Will Snap, Crackle, and Pop - the Kellogg's Rice Crispies guys become interracial?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 2106/17/2020

Now Rice Krispies is being targeted for their "three white boys".

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 2206/17/2020

Im black and I think this is overkill. I had aunties that actually looked like Aunt Jemima and they could cook their asses off. We are basically erasing history at this point.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 2306/17/2020

Me neither, r20.

And I love Aunt Jemima syrup.

Won’t be able to find it anymore.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 2406/17/2020

[quote] We are basically erasing history at this point.

Not even a little bit.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 2506/17/2020

Let's be honest, you'd have to be an idiot not to have always thoughts it was offensive - especially the older version. And the name was used as an insult for as long as I could recall.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 2606/17/2020

"I'se in town, honey!"

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 2706/17/2020

Why don’t they just leave the name and put a white woman’s face on it? Seems to remove the racial stereotypes then.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 2806/17/2020

"After a lengthy night of sex work, Trans Jemima always enjoyed cooking up huge pancake breakfasts for her and her tricks. Now you too can enjoy Trans Jemima's legendary pancake recipe from the comfort of your home! Empowering sex work not required."

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 2906/17/2020

[quote]We are basically erasing history at this point.

You're too stupid to live. How the fuck are you erasing history by PROGRESSING? Why are you pretending products haven't changed over the years? It's pancake mix, ya tool.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 3006/17/2020

Is "Paul Newperson" on the way?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 3106/17/2020

[quote]Im black and I think this is overkill. I had aunties that actually looked like Aunt Jemima and they could cook their asses off. We are basically erasing history at this point.

Ah! The poster that starts off his post with "I'm black" and then says something racist.

I was waiting for you.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 3206/17/2020

[quote]Let's be honest, you'd have to be an idiot not to have always thoughts it was offensive - especially the older version.

Yeah but we aren't talking about the old version. The new version is fine and reminds me of my late aunties who I loved dearly.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 3306/17/2020

There's no racism in modern advertising!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 3406/17/2020

R23, if we are going to keep Aunt Jemima to keep history, does that mean we have to use the term "colored" and "darkie" as well?

If we were going to keep slavery era culture, where older slaves are addresses as Aunt and Uncle, could I request that I be referred to as "Massa?"

After all, it will keep history alive.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 3506/17/2020

It doesn't matter, R33. The name "Aunt Jemima" was always offensive. Always. And I doubt fatties will give up their precious, processed pancakes over this.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 3606/17/2020

Are they converting Uncle Ben?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 3706/17/2020

By R23's logic, we're still supposed to treat homosexuality like an abnormality so that history isn't erased.

The whole point of history is LEARNING from it and changing how we think. Very dumb to refer to it as "erased.'

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 3806/17/2020

And I guess Abuelita is gone too!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 3906/17/2020

"Happy days is here!"

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 4006/17/2020

I'm sure paula Deen is freebasing that stuff right now

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 4106/17/2020

r39, you miss the point, abuelita is DRINKING the cocoa, not cooking it for white overlords. the branding is that this cocoa is so good your abuelita will want it

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 4206/17/2020

R39, how is that picture insulting? It's not like they have her in a sombrero and bad mustache as some bandito.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 4306/17/2020

R42 Bullshit. Aunts, mothers and grandmas are always used to sell food because they traditionally used to cook it.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 4406/17/2020

Exactly r44. Women would be well with their right use the same argument to demand that they be removed from all food packaging because its sexist. I bet you all would have a different opinion on that!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 4506/17/2020

But she's drinking the hot chocolate herself and making it for your "loving family" is not offensive in the same way a "mammy" makes pancakes for her "Massa"

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 4606/17/2020

They could always rename her to "Ain't Yo Momma"

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 4706/17/2020

How will this affect Imitation of Life?

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 4806/17/2020

Show me current products with a woman in an apron on the packaging or with a rolling pin. Even Betty Crocker is no longer anything but a name on a box.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 4906/17/2020

I was surprised that she hadn’t been canceled some years ago.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 5006/17/2020

Lose the head handkerchief. Lose the open smile and bright eyes. Lose the name Jemima. Lose the "auntie" status.

Weave. Scowl. Stink-Eye. Jereisha. Mz.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 5106/17/2020

Even as a child in the 1950s, I was able to recognize the use of Aunt Jemima as racist. I wouldn't have known that word yet, but I knew instinctively there was something shameful about going back to that slave imagery. We were a Log Cabin family (back when they actually used maple syrup).

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 5206/17/2020

Fat whores lament!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 5306/17/2020

White supremacist playbook:

Deny all knowledge of racist trope

Minimize trope into seeming innocent

Smear all critics as being hypersensitive

Assert that trope is in fact accurate portrayal.

Repeat.

It's not enough that the image of the subservient house slave/mammy figure brings you such perverse delights-- you've got to pour salt in the wound by pretending it's a new experience to have the history and why it's racist explained to you for the 1000th time.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 5406/17/2020

I say replace her with Cousin Chrissy!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 5506/17/2020

Aunt Jemima was always racist. How dumb can you be? I was literally just bringing this up when they changed the Land of Lakes packaging. I don’t know how Aunt Jemima lasted this long.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 5606/17/2020

Someday, all images of Aunt Jemima and the like will be scrubbed from the internet. YouTube will delete videos that include racially charged things like blackface. I hate to agree with Ronald Reagan, but he did say:

‘If Fascism Ever Comes to America, It Will Come in the Name of Liberalism’

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 5706/17/2020

They've already changed the Aunt Jemima image. When I was a kid, she was definitely a stereotype, an overweight mammy with a do-rag on her head. They modernized her to look like an attractive black woman some years ago.

So is it the name that's deemed stereotypical? What are they gonna name it now? "Auntie J?"

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 5806/17/2020

^^^I detest extremists, but the extreme right and extreme left are both trying to create division to remake the county to their extreme ideologies. Sad!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 5906/17/2020

[quote] I hate to agree with Ronald Reagan

No you don't. If you can use that particularly odious quote you absolutely do not hate to agree with Reagan r57.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 6006/17/2020

[quote] I detest extremists, but the extreme right and extreme left are both trying to create division to remake the county to their extreme ideologies. Sad!

You may not want to phrase your comments exactly like Cheetolini if you want us to believe you are some sort of moderate and not a shit-stirring, neo-Nazi, Trump-ass-kissing Republican.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 6106/17/2020

I didn't realize Cream of Wheat was still using "Rastus" on their packaging. You'd think they'd have at least changed it to "Frank," the name of the chef they used the photograph of for their logo.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 6206/17/2020

[quote] Let’s erase all black people from food packaging! That’s going to help!

How steeped in white supremacy do you need to be to see the only logical alternative to having racist mammy stereotypes is.. nothing at all?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 6306/17/2020

[quote] You may not want to phrase your comments exactly like Cheetolini if you want us to believe you are some sort of moderate and not a shit-stirring, neo-Nazi, Trump-ass-kissing Republican.

There's no "moderate" stance to racism, it's just called being white and oblivious to every experience besides your own.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 6406/17/2020

[quote]It's not like they have her in a sombrero and bad mustache as some bandito.

Hey :(

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 6506/17/2020

Lot of self righteous old white men getting their depends in a twist on this.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 6606/17/2020

[quote]You may not want to phrase your comments exactly like Cheetolini if you want us to believe you are some sort of moderate and not a shit-stirring, neo-Nazi, Trump-ass-kissing Republican.

In the "old days" being a "liberal" did not mean you were a namby-pamby, socialist, everyone-get-a-trophy, constantly butt-hurt pussy.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 6706/17/2020

I first saw this shit while visiting Thailand in the Navy. This was sold in Asia for years before Colgate acquired the company and changed the name:

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 6806/17/2020

[quote] In the "old days" being a "liberal" did not mean you were a namby-pamby, socialist, everyone-get-a-trophy, constantly butt-hurt pussy.

Don't you have a klan rally to get to?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 6906/17/2020

[quote] They've already changed the Aunt Jemima image. When I was a kid, she was definitely a stereotype, an overweight mammy with a do-rag on her head. They modernized her to look like an attractive black woman some years ago. So is it the name that's deemed stereotypical? What are they gonna name it now? "Auntie J?"

You really need it explained to you how putting the fictional slave character used to sell pancake mix to white people who yearn for the good ol days of nurturing house servants on WEIGHT WATCHERS didn't remove the negative racist implications and history?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 7006/17/2020

[quote]Don't you have a klan rally to get to?

No. The average black person is no enemy of mine or the USA. Incidents of true and imagined racism are a tool for division and diversion while politicians of both parties sell us out to China, Saudi Arabia, etc. The Chinese government and Muslim extremists are the enemy.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 7106/17/2020

Next up, R71 says "some of my best friends are black!"

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 7206/17/2020

Let's rename it! I call "Crappy Sugar Water".

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 7306/17/2020

‘If Fascism Ever Comes to America, It Will Come in the Name of Liberalism’

Oh, honey, fascism is here, and your orange hero brought it.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 7406/17/2020

Most likely R72 is a smug, white, virtue-signaling who has lived an easy life.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 7506/17/2020

They could go high yellow and make everyone happy 😊. Or give her a white husband & mixed kids.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 7606/17/2020

She had a syrupy sweet pussy, but she couldn't live forever.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 7706/17/2020

Their slogan was x-rated too - Nothin' could be fine-a than the taste of Aunt Jemima in the moooooorning.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 7806/17/2020

The actual quote is:

"If fascism ever comes to America, it will come wrapped in an American flag."

But Reagan changed it.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 7906/17/2020

Black people are offended that a black women are marketed as making pancakes? I guess cause it’s not a black owned syrup company?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 8006/17/2020

So glad our priorities are clear. Watching that horrible video of George Floyd's murder, I thought finally we can do something about pancakes, the Oscars and that guy on Flash.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 8106/17/2020

Golden Girls series finale, you in danger, girl.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 8206/17/2020

[quote] Black people are offended that a black women are marketed as making pancakes?

If this is really what you got from this there is no hope for you.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 8306/17/2020

The name and logo aren't the only offensive things produced by Aunt Jemima.

Cap'n Crunch's "OCEAN BLUE" Maple-flavored Pancake Syrup.

BLUE PANCAKE SYRUP.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 8406/17/2020

If you ain't eating Wham - you ain't eatin' ham!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 8506/17/2020

The Onion called it on Friday.

“Our new mascot is based on several real-life black women who are lawyers and eat pancakes some mornings when they aren’t too busy litigating on behalf of the disadvantaged. While Sheila does enjoy our extended line of breakfast foods, that is only one small facet of her rich and complex identity as a human being: Sheila also speaks fluent Italian, likes U2, is bisexual, and enjoys cross-country skiing. Let us make it clear that Sheila never serves the pancakes herself, but now and then goes to a diner near the courthouse where waitresses and waiters of a variety of races serve them to her.”

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 8606/17/2020

Prince loved pancakes. Why not just use his likeness instead?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 8706/17/2020

to modernize it maybe "Aunt I Don't Know Who the Fuck Your Daddys Are Syrup"

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 8806/17/2020

Aunt Resist!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 8906/17/2020

Haven't FFed anybody in ages until R88 came along.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 9006/17/2020

Oh, R88 is the Matt Taibbi fangirl and also an anti-trans troll. Figures they're also a racist.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 9106/17/2020

Change logo to Jemima Kirke rolling her eyes. WHET her anyway?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 9206/17/2020

Maybe Aunt Stacey? She’s desperate for any job.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 9306/17/2020

R93 that would be fat-shaming.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 9406/17/2020

The old version used a racist name and a racist image. They changed the image but kept the name. Now they're changing the name.

This isn't rocket surgery.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 9506/17/2020

I simply reinvent my privileged wasp persona every 10 or 15 years and nobody’s the wiser.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 9606/17/2020

Any female depiction on a food label is nothing more than a cowering kneel to the Patriarchy!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 9706/17/2020

Kuzin' Karen's 'Kakes.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 9806/17/2020

And the Land o Lakes butter Indian maiden was sent to some reservation months ago. Leaving a quite lonely package behind.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 9906/17/2020

Petition to replace Aunt Jemina with Aunt Karen

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 10006/17/2020

[quote] Cap'n Crunch's "OCEAN BLUE" Maple-flavored Pancake Syrup. BLUE PANCAKE SYRUP.

I’m offended.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 10106/17/2020

Well, I guess my 1962 Aunt Jemima plastic syrup pitcher that my mom sent twenty five cents and a box top for just doubled in value. Or i should run over it with the car in solidarity.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 10206/17/2020

I'm pretty sure Buckwheat is next...

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 10306/17/2020

I see a lot of this “memorabilia” at antique stores. I always wonder who buys it. Racists?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 10406/17/2020

Why don't they just put it in a plain box and call it "Mix for fuckers too lazy to make their own pancakes".

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 10506/17/2020

Juan Valdez

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 10606/17/2020

El Exigente

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 10706/17/2020

You bitches better not even look in my direction.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 10806/17/2020

Aunt Jemima is so disgusting.

It's like glue.

Eat real maple syrup

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 10906/17/2020

Introducing nonbinary Auncle Jemimx.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 11006/17/2020

I only buy organic artisan maple syrup, prepared by vestal virgins from a convent in Montreal.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 11106/17/2020
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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 11206/17/2020

What's next to get cancelled? They'd better not take away Bougie Barbie!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 11306/17/2020

Or Bougie Barbie's best friend, Trishelle!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 11406/17/2020

Mrs. Butterworth is laughing.

"Another bitch off my list!"

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 11506/17/2020

New look, new name

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 11606/17/2020

I recommend Lady Professor-brand Pancake Mix as a suitable replacement.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 11706/17/2020

Laverne Cox will be replacing Aunt Jemima.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 11806/17/2020

Pandemic,economy in the toilet,a terrifying buffoon in the white house,and THIS is what the focus their fucking energy on ???Who cares,I always liked Mrs. Butterworth better anyway .

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 11906/17/2020

Aunt J’s heirs sued Quaker

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 12006/17/2020

[quote]"Mix for fuckers too lazy to make their own pancakes".

This is making pancakes “from scratch” in my house.

The only other alternative is frozen.

I wouldn’t even know how to begin making pancakes without a mix.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 12106/17/2020

My grandmother made pancakes with Bisquick. They were delicious.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 12206/17/2020

No comment...

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 12306/17/2020

R104 Actually, I have a friend who owns a fairly large antique store, and I asked him the same question. His response was that most of it was bought by blacks, who collect black historical memorabilia. Of course its considered racist now, but it wasn't always, and regardless of your feelings, it still represents history.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 12406/17/2020

[quote] We are basically erasing history at this point.

It constantly amazes me that people get so agitated over shit like this. I bet you never gave one shit about history in high school, there is so much more to get offended over in this world, people are dying needlessly but by all means get worked up over the changing of a brand name. Keep it, change it, I don't give a shit and you shouldn't either.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 12506/17/2020

Listen, honey!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 12606/17/2020

For R57. Here is a Speech from Hitler....on YOU TUBE

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 12706/17/2020

Here is a Speech by Mussolini...on YOUTUBE

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 12806/17/2020

Hola!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 12906/17/2020

Now tell me again, R57, how liberals are "deleting" things. History is there for you. Are you so desperate to defend this garbage that you have to lie about what liberals are doing?

You are truly an asshole for quoting Reagan because we can also find shit with him, too. Liberals aren't keeping you from being a jerk.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 13006/17/2020

The reason they want to ban Aunt J. is because she represents a maid. The point of the matter is everything is offensive these days.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 13106/17/2020

Does this mean the Popeye's spokeswoman isn't long for the airwaves?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 13206/17/2020

R132 I’m surprised it hasn’t happened yet. People lost their shit when Mary J Blige did a BK commercial about their chicken sandwich.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 13306/17/2020

it’s a little unnerving to see how invested the elderly are in the name and mascot behind mass-produced pancake mix. It’s fucking Pepsico, if it didn’t impact the bottom line it wouldn’t be done. It obviously does matter to a significant part of the population.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 13406/17/2020

Corporations are some of the most conservative organizations around. If they are deciding that it's good for business to make these changes, it's because they think that their profits will suffer if they don't. That means there has been a sea change in attitudes across the country. Anyone who blames "snowflake liberals" for these changes is going to be left behind, just like segragationists were in the early 60s.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 13506/17/2020

[quote]The point of the matter is everything is offensive these days.

No, it really isn't. You see, people like myself know the difference and people like you are just really lazy and lack critical thinking when you say nonsense like that.

People with your mentality said Colin K was being offensive when he took a knee while in the same breath, boycotted Starbucks over a red cup or say taking away the confederate flag from people is offensive.

There's currently a video of an "Officer Karen" on twitter whining about waiting for a fucking egg mcmuffin and she thinks they made her wait longer because she's a cop when fast food restaurants don't have time for that shit - and fortunately, most are calling her out. People like her have your mentality. The inability to recognize that the most minor of inconveniences you deal with and will get you "emotional" is NOTHING compared to the hell of institutionalized degradation and dehumanization over generations. Through television, movies, going to a doctor, shopping, getting a cab, getting a job, getting a mortgage. EVERYTHING in this life making you feel like you're lesser.

"This is why Trump won!" is the only thing people like you can muster.... Because rather than be introspective, you prefer being simplistic.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 13606/17/2020

[quote]prepared by vestal virgins from a convent in Montreal.

Oh please, there are NO virgins in Canada.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 13706/17/2020

Exactly, R135. See how quickly gyms dropped Crossfit? "It's business." Thankfully, there aren't enough assholes on the wrong side of history to keep those businesses afloat and their voices have no influence. That's why a place like Costco kept their "Masks in store" policy. It was mostly moronic deplorables who scream about "mah freedum" not to wear one.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 13806/17/2020

R29, I almost pissed myself laughing!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 13906/17/2020

Aunt Jemima pancake mix has bleached flour... another reason for Jemima to retire.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 14006/17/2020

I went to junior high with a girl who's grandmother posed for the original Aunt Jemima photo. She came in and spoke to our class about how she was discovered and what an honor it was to be put on the cover. This was around 1974 and although there was some amount of discussion about it being a stereotype, she said she'd seen much worse in her life.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 14106/17/2020

Part of the reason she came in was because the kids found out about it and started calling the girl Aunt Jemima. It was an attempt at anti-bullying and it worked.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 14206/17/2020

They better leave Chiquita alone!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 14306/17/2020

Aunt Independent Powerful Black Woman Pancake Mix

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 14406/17/2020

Maybe this will make you understand how it made a lot of black people feel:

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 14506/17/2020

Oh c'mon.

Even DL has to see "Aunt Jemima" for what it is. Even as a little kid, I knew it was questionable - it's that bad.

She's the lawn jockey on everyone's breakfast table.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 14606/17/2020

Can we ditch the flamboyant gay minstrels too?

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 14706/17/2020

Aunt Reparations Pancake Mix?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 14806/17/2020

The old “Aunt Jemima” was racist, no doubt. The company changed the graphic and that seemed to be fine with everyone. She’s now a smiling black woman. If that’s not good enough, they can change it again.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 14906/17/2020

Remember the old logo from the 70s and 80s with Aunt Jemima wearing a kerchief? I'm surprised they got away with that even back then.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 15006/17/2020

I hope they’re audacious in the rebrand.

-Ain’t Your Mama -Not Your Mama -Ms. Jemima -Prof. Jemima (complete with science experiment activities using pancake batter).

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 15106/17/2020

[quote]Pepsi also said the Aunt Jemima brand will donate $5 million to create "meaningful, ongoing support and engagement in the Black community."

That is a pitiful amount given the decades of profit based on racist traditions.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 15206/17/2020

"Aunt Jemima" will be rebranded as "I Ain't Your Motherfuckin' Slave Jemima."

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 15306/17/2020

Tee hee...

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 15406/17/2020

Me & my sweet ass aren't going anywhere!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 15506/17/2020

R154 I'm sure that Team Fruity would turn on his side for Team Cocoa.....I know I would!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 15606/17/2020

I couldn't stop laughing for ten minutes straight....

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 15706/17/2020

How about something gay and festive?

Uncle Arthur?

You kids want syrup on those pancakes? I’ll show you something sweet n’ sticky

Mr. French?

Dr. Smith?

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 15806/17/2020

R118, you know Laverne Cox would jump on that gig in a hot second and “reclaim” it as a trans triumph.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 15906/17/2020

Introducing Fix Yo Own brand syrup.

“I ain’t yo maid”

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 16006/17/2020

I can't wait to be the first to taste the delicious new Precious Pancake Mix: Based on the Recipe 'Pushcakes' by Sapphire.

But I draw the line at Farrakhan Frozen Farina Falafel. I don't like the flavor of homicide, bigotry and hate.

Something I never tasted in the old Aunt Jemima brand.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 16106/17/2020

Call it Aunt Delilah instead!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 16206/17/2020

It's been all downhill since they took away Sugar Pops Pete

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 16306/17/2020

New! “Ain’t Nobody Got Time for Dat” Pancake Mix

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 16406/17/2020

Miss Wanda pancake mix. A strong independent African American woman to appease all demographics.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 16506/17/2020

George Jefferson better be dead, or else Missy Florence will have to find an alternative for his flap jacks.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 16606/17/2020

Aunt Esther would tell Fred, "Watch it, sucka!" if he told her that Aunt Jemima was being put out to pasture.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 16706/17/2020

[quote]Cap'n Crunch's "OCEAN BLUE" Maple-flavored Pancake Syrup. BLUE PANCAKE SYRUP.

I just ordered a case.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 16806/17/2020

They could rename it after Jemima Puddleduck.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 16906/17/2020

Or me (the little girl.....)

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 17006/17/2020

R32, nothing he said was racist. You can explain why the Aunt Jemima imagery is offensive *without* pretending that female heads of black households doing the cooking for their families is racist. Give us a break.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 17106/17/2020

I’m so sorry. I didn’t know my name was a cultural appropriation.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 17206/17/2020

Sounds like several posters need a large stack of fluffy pancakes with a heaping helping of SHUT THE FUCK UP on the side.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 17306/17/2020

OMFG it's hard to believe shit like this used to be normal.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 17406/17/2020

But does she know anything about birthing any babies?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 17506/17/2020

But does she know anything about birthing any babies?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 17606/17/2020

[quote]OMFG it's hard to believe shit like this used to be normal.

I grew up in the South and was raised by elderly black ladies.

They talked like this. And some of the old black men acted like Hoke from Driving Miss Daisy doing yardwork and such. My school wasn't mixed until fourth grade in 1970. But I'd grown up with Evelyn and Josie's families, so it was no big deal to me. I had the first integrated birthday party in town. When my mother found out some parents weren't letting their kids attend because I'd invited a black girl, she got on the phone with them toot sweet. It only took the Southern tradition of public shame of their racism and every invite showed up.

It's time to update.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 17706/17/2020

[quote] people like myself know the difference

*eyeroll*

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 17806/17/2020

[quote] I went to junior high with a girl who's grandmother posed

Oh, dear!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 17906/17/2020

In the late 60s, my parents brought home a ton of souvenirs from Florida that had black people sitting on oranges. I mean, blacks and oranges on everything.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 18006/17/2020

When will the SJWs settle down? Can you like leave this planet? Go live in Jupiter or something. Thanks!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 18106/17/2020

What exactly are you mad at "SJWs" here for?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 18206/17/2020

I'm available!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 18306/17/2020

This is why it is racist.

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R104 - I knew the Dean of a University and also head of the African-American studies program who had plenty of that memorabilia.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 18506/17/2020

R100 that woman’s face, stretched, with an an expression of supreme condescension mixed with a touch of fear triggers me.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 18606/17/2020

R181. You first, cunt!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 18706/17/2020

We Irish descended don’t give a fuck even if people culturally appropriate us AND abuse our religious holiday while hating our religion.

Here they put an Irishman IN CHAINS! Quelle horror!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 18806/17/2020

This just in. Barbara Billingsley is the new Aunt Jemima!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 18906/17/2020

Wait to hear from Whoopi. She also has a huge collection of these artifacts.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 19006/17/2020

[quote] Apparently the character dates back to mistrel shows as a "Mammy"-type figure.

The company hired a woman to play Aunt Jemima. And she was like a rock star. Really. She would go around the country giving demonstrations of her making pancakes. People loved it. She was so popular that when she retired, they hired someone else to take her place. There were about 4 or 5 Aunt Jemimas

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 19106/17/2020

Quaker Oats should have a line of edibles under the title of

Angry Black Woman Brands.

AJPS could be rebranded as

Don't Make Me Take Off My Earrings Pancake Syrup.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 19206/17/2020

lolz at this thread, best DL thread in weeks

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 19306/17/2020

"Aunt Jemima" rebranded as "I Ain't Your House N----r, You Can Make Your Own Motherfuckin' Pancakes You White Devil."

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 19406/17/2020

[quote] ‘If Fascism Ever Comes to America, It Will Come in the Name of Liberalism’

Fascism isn't police murdering black people in cold blood but a breakfast cereal conglomerate changing a pancake mix name. Brilliant lampooning of the imbecilic conservative mindset.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 19506/17/2020

Does anyone doubt R181 (and others like him) cheered when Kevin Hart lost his Oscar gig...over jokes. I love when certain gays go off about "SJW" and "liberals" and "pc" and missing the irony when they want comedians fired over gay jokes.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 19606/17/2020

Well I think Aunt Jemima is fabulous

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 19706/17/2020

Fine, then stop calling my tennis shoes Air Jordans.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 19806/17/2020

If they make me rename my Kwanzaa cake I am going to start drinking.

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[quote]OMFG it's hard to believe shit like this used to be normal.

I KNOW! The nerve of them using "GAY COLORS!"

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 20006/17/2020

[quote]OMFG it's hard to believe shit like this used to be normal.

I KNOW! The nerve of them using "GAY COLORS!"

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 20106/17/2020

"Quaker Oats, a subsidiary of PepsiCo, owns the Aunt Jemima brand, which has been around for more than 130 years".

130 years. What a way to kill a brand that has obviously held up. If I was in the supermarket aisle, and couldn't decide which fake chemical syrup to buy, I'd decide on the Aunt Jemima brand because of the friendly warm face. Not because I have some warped slave fetish that I'm assumed to have because I happened to be born with white skin.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 20206/17/2020

Native Americans

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 20306/17/2020

"Speedy" Gonzales not racist at all.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 20406/17/2020

For R203

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 20506/17/2020

It's always about the lower 48.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 20606/17/2020

Isn’t it, R206???

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 20706/17/2020

I guess if you are Hispanic than its OK to discriminate.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 20806/17/2020

I hate real maple syrup.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 20906/17/2020

This poor man was FORCED to change his name!!!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 21006/17/2020

Tell me about it R210!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 21106/17/2020

I am not changing a thing.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 21206/17/2020

[quote]I hate real maple syrup.

It's good that you own it, R209.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 21306/17/2020

I'mma Snatch Yo Weave Pancakes.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 21406/17/2020

Jemima ain't impressed.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 21506/17/2020

OH, HEEEEELL NO! WTF MY LAGOON GOTTA BE BLACK, MFER?!!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 21606/17/2020

Aunt Viola

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 21706/17/2020

When I was little I thought Aunt Jemima was married to Uncle Ben, seriously.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 21806/17/2020

Ungowa*

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 21906/17/2020

And I’d have thought I’d be accused of racism if I didn’t buy the syrup with the black lady on it, I’d never have thought it to be racist if I DID. This is pretty fucking sick. I thinks it’s racist to run around thinking everyone is racist. Good luck with that Re-branding. Sounds completely ridiculous, petty, and unnecessary for a brand that’s been around for 130 years.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 22006/17/2020

Let’s go back to this if everyone is too sensitive.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 22106/17/2020

The new Mascot for all brands should be this:

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 22206/17/2020

For those saying Uncle Ben is next, you’re right.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 22306/17/2020

Have a bowl of Booty O's

MM!! Mm!! mm!!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 22406/17/2020

[quote] The image of the Black man on the box was modeled after Frank Brown, a waiter at the Chicago restaurant

I guess that doesn't matter.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 22506/17/2020

What about my Lil Pedro from South of the Border?

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Of course it doesn’t matter, r225!

It’s a black man!! *Gasp*

If we’re bulldozing everything, it’s ALL gotta go.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 22706/17/2020

It's dogshit corn syrup. Laughable that Americans think it was maple syrup.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 22806/17/2020

Does anyone remember that episode of Roseanne where DJ wears a bandanna on his head and when Roseanne sees him she asks when he’s gonna make her some pancakes?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 22906/17/2020

It’s killing me how tone deaf some of you white Marys are...anything that even hints at what you think is a gay stereotype, you get all ACT UP and shit...imagine having to put up with CRUISING for 120 years...no, because you can’t!

Just accept the fact that it’s offensive to most black folks. And yes, there are offensive stereotypes of other races and ethnicities all over. Just because some are more accepting of them doesn’t make it right. Just respect the wishes of those who don’t wanna see this crap. I haven’t bought Aunt Jemima ANYTHING since I have been grown. I buy store brand pancake mix and maple syrup.

It’s just like SONG OF THE SOUTH, with white people getting all butt hurt because Disney made the right decision not to make it available in the USA. IMDB was loaded with those entitled trolls who felt that if it wasn’t bothering them, why shouldn’t they be allowed to see it...THIS IS THE ESSENCE OF WHITE PRIVILEGE.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 23006/17/2020

[quote]And I doubt fatties will give up their precious, processed pancakes over this.

Oh. So you're against flour?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 23106/17/2020

and when all black references have been removed from corporate branding, the leftists will cry about lack of black representation in corporate branding. You can't win with extremists which I why you should never surrender to them.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 23206/17/2020

[quote] and when all black references have been removed from corporate branding, the leftists will cry about lack of black representation in corporate branding.

Lol, Yep.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 23306/17/2020

Are the B-52's going to have to change the lyrics to "Whammy Kiss"?

...I said give it all you got Give it all to me Come on mammy, throw Me that whammy!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 23406/17/2020

[quote] You can't win with extremists which I why you should never surrender to them.

Of course, this had nothing to do with extremists, and everything to do with corporate profits...but do go on.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 23506/17/2020

Aunt Jemima for Biden's Vice President!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 23606/17/2020

BAM! Gone! It's like I never existed. Most of you racist bitches didn't even notice this happened in February before the BLM protests happened. I guess no one really cars about Native Americans as much as other races.

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Good for the Native American activists who have been working for YEARS to get corporate America to get rid of their racist brand names and logos. They tried to make Chrysler change the name of the Cherokee, but they refused to.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 23806/17/2020

Why is Trump allowed to use the racist word Pocahontas as a slur with thousand of people cheering and clapping but not the N word? Just saying people don't stick up for Native Americans like they do other races. Why is that? Racism?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 23906/17/2020

The current Aunt Jemima looks like Dionne Warwick.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 24006/17/2020

[quote]The current Aunt Jemima looks like Dionne Warwick.

Shit, it does! These Quaker hussies wont have a cent left when Im done suing them!

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[quote]When I was little I thought Aunt Jemima was married to Uncle Ben, seriously.

And they were both Betty Crocker's house slaves.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 24206/17/2020

💃 Well, I do declare, who on earth is gonna make me some breakfast pancakes and country sausages with faux butter maple flavored syrup ?

Next y'all will be tryin' to take away my southern fried chicken and biscuits !

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 24306/17/2020

[quote]I guess no one really cares about Native Americans as much as other races.

No, not really.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 24406/17/2020

This is the original Aunt Jemima package. JFC!

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🐣 [bold] Vive La Colonel !

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 24606/17/2020

R197 (mumbling) Yeah, cheers, Pats.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 24706/17/2020

[quote]and when all black references have been removed from corporate branding, the leftists will cry about lack of black representation in corporate branding.

Because it can only be a negative stereotype or nothing...those are the choices in your mind. Half-wit.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 24806/17/2020

Aunt Jemima and Mrs. Butterworth's will be newly marketed under the name of Ms. Jessica's. The old Butterworth's syrup will be replaced with a shapely bottle with a buxom babe bearing a striking resemblance to "Daisy Duke" Simpson. The pancake box will feature that same busty blonde wearing a short ruffled apron that barely covers her butt cheeks.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 24906/17/2020

👵 Who's gonna drive me to the Piggly Wiggly store ?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 25006/17/2020

Henceforth the only acceptable logo depicted as a person will be one of a trans-woman, preferably shown holding aloft a Woman's Sports trophy.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 25106/17/2020

The Sun-Maid Raisins girl is an offense to agricultural workers.

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[quote]So you're against flour?

Damn right! Why does it have to be WHITE Lily?

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 25306/17/2020

We don't have Aunt Jemima in the UK but we do have Uncle Ben's. I can honestly say I never gave a second thought to Uncle Ben's race until I read this thread.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 25406/17/2020

Just call it Ben's and drop the Uncle and the picture of the old black servant.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 25506/17/2020

It is really quite stunning that some of you can’t see how the continuation of the Aunt Jemima brand would be extremely problematic. Changing the depiction of the woman on the package hardly mattered. It was rooted in negative stereotypes that placed black women as servants and cooks. You can try and explain it away, but the fact remains for much of its 130-year history the racism was front and center. In the early days it was rather explicit. That we accepted this for so long is no reason to keep perpetuating it.

Over the last 160 years there have been many brands that have come and gone. This is not anything to get worked up about. They’re going to rebrand it, so the change is not about being unable to obtain the product — just the product being sold under that name.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 25606/17/2020

"Im black and I think this is overkill. "

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I used to love making Land O' Lakes maidens, R237.

And I used to have this GIF of a couple very flabby titties, lying flat on a plate, covered in syrup. I wish I could find that image again.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 25806/17/2020

Aunt Jemima pancakes without her syrup is like the spring without the fall. There's only one things worse in this universe and that's no Aunt Jemima at all.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 25906/17/2020

What's so negative about being a servant or a cook? Countless whites have served these roles throughout history (see Downton Abbey). People have lost their minds. Now I see how the Chinese Cultural Revolution happened.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 26006/17/2020

Not a servant or a cook. A slave.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 26106/17/2020

What about the face of Rachael Ray, slapped on products from dog food to dishes?

I personally find that highly offensive.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 26206/17/2020

R3, you know that’s not Meg Whitman.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 26306/17/2020

[quote] What's so negative about being a servant or a cook?

Are you really that damned obtuse? Apparently.

The character was taken from a minstrel show, and relied on stereotypes that were borne out of hundreds of years of forced servitude. They were further perpetuated during Jim Crow when the only acceptable role for black women involved domestic service — where these women were generally paid meager wages and often had to bear the brunt of their employers’ racism.

So, most definitely not simply “a servant or a cook.” 🙄

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 26406/17/2020

I'm waiting for Ipana Toothpaste to reinvent itself.

I've always found Bucky Beaver highly offensive.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 26506/17/2020

If you think that's bad, check out the Spanish confectionary called Conguitos. As far as I'm aware, these are sold with this branding in Spain to this day.

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[quote] What's so negative about being a servant or a cook?

Dishpan hands, Rose.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 26706/17/2020

[quote]she got on the phone with them TOOT SWEET. [caps added]

Is this a joke?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 26806/17/2020

Hottie David Muir said tonight they're coming after Mrs Butterworth for real.

WTF?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 26906/17/2020

[quote]Ah! The poster that starts off his post with "I'm black" and then says something racist.

Whatever bitch. I'll show you how black I am.

Vickie Winans, who Im sure you never heard of, proudly did Aunt Jemima ads for Quaker back in the 90s and no one canceled her for it. Vickie Winans is as black as me and she would never do something to the detriment of black people.

People are just in a state of shock right now. Yes the brand started with racist depiction, but the current depiction is not racist. You would not have a black gospel singer risking their reputation pushing the product if it truly was.

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"The character was taken from a minstrel show, and relied on stereotypes that were borne out of hundreds of years of forced servitude. They were further perpetuated during Jim Crow when the only acceptable role for black women involved domestic service — where these women were generally paid meager wages and often had to bear the brunt of their employers’ racism. "

LOL. It's just a fictional character that peddles low quality, chemically laden corn syrup. Applying your Marxist anti-white ideology to it is bat shit lunacy so typical of the left today.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 27206/17/2020

Speaking of Divine at R222 ...

"I Ain't Your Maid Anymore, BITCH, I'm Your Sista in Crime!" Pancake Mix

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Putting faces on foods is super tacky

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 27406/17/2020

[quote]What's so negative about being a servant or a cook?

Are you trolling or could you be any more the stereotype of a racist hick whose parents are siblings?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 27506/17/2020

R32, he is black. See:

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Better not come for my Homo Milk.

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8ball, we got your back! We comin for ya, baby!

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[quote]LOL. It's just a fictional character that peddles low quality, chemically laden corn syrup. Applying your Marxist anti-white ideology to it is bat shit lunacy so typical of the left today.

You do know that the right boycotted Starbucks over a red cup. They also boycotted Keurig, Gillette, the NFL. Claimed there was a war on Christmas when we see sales in fucking October, but do go on with some nonsense about "Marxism" and "anti-white" bullshit when we're talking about caricature steeped in racism to anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of racism in America.

If you're gay, I really hope you were one who stood up for Kevin Hart when he was pressured to give up his Oscar gig...ya know, so that you don't show you're a fucking hypocrite.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 27906/17/2020

White people LOOOOVE owning this weird golliwog shit I wish they would ban the sale of it.

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"Now I see how the Chinese Cultural Revolution happened."

Well, since this is NOT the Chinese Cultural Revolution and since you clearly know nothing about the actual Chinese Cultural Revolution to begin with, it's as though you're signaling to us that you're stupid on top of stupid.

Double decker stupidity.

That's what trolling is, Trolly Troll. Your little wrinkled stupidity humping on a big doughy pile of stupid.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 28106/17/2020

Oh, the right also attempted to boycott Costco over wearing masks...because of their "freedom" to go into a private business and do whatever the fuck they want. because their rights supersede those of a corporation looking to protect their employees and OTHER customers.

But again, go on about the "left" being loons for seeing something glaringly racist for as far back as many of us could recall. I always recall "Aunt Jemima" used as a racist epithet.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 28206/17/2020

Who don't Americans put REAL maple syrup on their pancakes other than this shit????

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 28306/17/2020

WHY DO WHITE PEOPLE DO THIS?

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"Oh, the right also attempted to boycott Costco over wearing masks...because of their "freedom" to go into a private business and do whatever the fuck they want. because their rights supersede those of a corporation looking to protect their employees and OTHER customers.

But again, go on about the "left" being loons for seeing something glaringly racist for as far back as many of us could recall. I always recall "Aunt Jemima" used as a racist epithet."

There is something called the political center where I reside. I can call out blatant stupidity on both sides. It's the left which are exceedingly stupid recently.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 28506/17/2020

[quote]Who don't Americans put REAL maple syrup

uh, Sorrey, eh?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 28606/17/2020

I grew up eating Aunt Jemima pancakes with Log Cabin syrup. We were odd. We had pancakes for dinner with Swift Premium sausages.

I always liked Swift Premium sausages but I never much liked pancakes until I made a recipe from one of my mother's old McCall's cookbooks. Sour Cream Pancakes- They were FABULOUS.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 28706/17/2020

I grew up eating Aunt Jemima pancakes with Log Cabin syrup. We were odd. We had pancakes for dinner with Swift Premium sausages.

I always liked Swift Premium sausages but I never much liked pancakes until I made a recipe from one of my mother's old McCall's cookbooks. Sour Cream Pancakes- They were FABULOUS.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 28806/17/2020

Is Rosarita next?

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Just change the backstory : Jem is a successful business person and MBA holder who runs a chain of restaurants in the US South. Too busy for a family of her own, on her downtime she cooks for her nieces and nephews who lovingly call her Aunt Jemima.

Thank me later.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 29006/17/2020

[quote]There is something called the political center where I reside. I can call out blatant stupidity on both sides. It's the left which are exceedingly stupid recently.

No, you fucking don't reside in the center. You're a myopic tool who takes a "meh" approach to anything the right does and gets apoplectic over the left.

Oh really, the left is recent while the right isn't? When the fuck did the right show up with guns to statehouses when the state govts were trying to PROTECT them from a fucking pandemic? Ten years ago? Literally showed up with guns over Golden Corral being closed for TWO months, but please, act as though the image of "Aunt Jemima" as mammy for decades is something you just brush aside. Brush aside police brutality like it's only one incident and not a systemic problem going back forever.

You're not in the center.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 29106/17/2020

Uncle Zac

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" No, you fucking don't reside in the center. You're a myopic tool who takes a "meh" approach to anything the right does and gets apoplectic over the left.

Oh really, the left is recent while the right isn't? When the fuck did the right show up with guns to statehouses when the state govts were trying to PROTECT them from a fucking pandemic? Ten years ago? Literally showed up with guns over Golden Corral being closed for TWO months, but please, act as though the image of "Aunt Jemima" as mammy for decades is something you just brush aside. Brush aside police brutality like it's only one incident and not a systemic problem going back forever.

You're not in the center. "

No wonder hypertension is epidemic among blacks if you get this worked up over pancakes.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 29306/17/2020

R284 - so cute!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 29406/17/2020

Bye Auntie and Uncle Ben. This seems both stupid and inevitable. So no black faces on food products in a few months somehow will end racism,

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 29506/17/2020

I love that some realize removing all the ethnic stereotypes from food packaging would leave you with NO images of minorities on packaging but fail to realize the inherent problem with that absence.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 29606/17/2020

[quote]No wonder hypertension is epidemic among blacks if you get this worked up over pancakes.

You truly are just a genuinely shit person. I'm not black and this isn't about "pancakes" - which I don't even eat. Maybe work on your inability to empathize with something far more complex than "pancakes."

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 29706/17/2020

[quote]So no black faces

Hilarious how you can't see the irony in what you just wrote...

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 29806/17/2020

But what about my microwave cinnamon coffee cake?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 29906/17/2020

This has been a fun thread and given me a lot of giggles, before it took this serious turn. I'm a black guy getting dangerously close to 50. I've seen these images all my life and I never really have given much thought to them and never found them particularly offensive. They were just there. I even collected a few of these things. I think I even went as Uncle Ben to a Halloween party once.

But, if there are people who find these images and relics of the past offensive and a roadblock to progress, then get rid of them. Losing Aunt Jemima is no great blow to the republic. Hopefully she will have a peaceful retirement with Josephine the Plumber, Madge the Manicurist, Rosie the Waitress, and Mr. Whipple.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 30006/17/2020

r266 Spaniards are racist AF.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 30106/17/2020

Put a white lady and call her aunt Brandee

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 30206/17/2020

I've never used this brand. I do not eat pancakes.

What about KFC and that white dude?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 30306/17/2020

He's not a real colonel.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 30406/17/2020

I can do colored.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 30506/17/2020

R303, you mean Pierce Brosnan?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 30606/17/2020

[quote] Losing Aunt Jemima is no great blow to the republic. Hopefully she will have a peaceful retirement with Josephine the Plumber, Madge the Manicurist, Rosie the Waitress, and Mr. Whipple.

The character and her name are literally the brand. The marketing characters you named are not brands. An appropriate comparison would be Betty Crocker.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 30706/17/2020

I think at this point it is becoming too problematic to have depictions of any humans on product packaging. They should simply redesign them to only feature text and pictures of the food inside the box and maybe a landscape or the like.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 30806/17/2020

[quote]The character and her name are literally the brand. The marketing characters you named are not brands. An appropriate comparison would be Betty Crocker.

I am aware of that, but thank you, oh wise one, for explaining it to me. Just in case I didn't know.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 30906/17/2020

[quote] I am aware of that

Don’t lie.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 31006/17/2020

A better response from the company would have been a campaign to remind consumers that they have had worse things in their mouth.

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The Colonel is so real.

He's the Colonel of the Kitchen.

He is the keeper of the Kentucky Fried Greasefire.

He's a DataLounge Icon.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 31206/17/2020

I remember an old episode of "Maude" where she took in some ghetto rat with a chip on her shoulder. The ghetto rat addressed Florida as "Pancake Auntie". I laughed at the time, does that make me racist?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 31306/17/2020

Who likes Wheaties?

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 31406/17/2020

And here I was worried about Sambo's in Santa Barbara . . .

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 31506/17/2020

R413 yes, you committed a microaggression, and now you must be destroyed!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 31606/17/2020

Fuck you. I’m keeping it

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Boy, some of you really don't get that you are Matt Gaetz at this point. You lack empathy and oversimplify what this is about...and you think when you do it, you're the "sane" one rather than ignorant . You want to chalk everything up to "pc" or "woke" or "libtards" or whatever nonsense you tell yourself to rationalize what this is about...because it doesn't involve demeaning homosexuals. You expect TV, advertising and movies not to use demeaning, embarrassing caricatures of gays, but you can't understand that same desire from other groups, especially one who have seen for generations.

You'd be better off just saying you do not give a shit about the history of racism in every facet of American life including advertising, rather than dismiss that it exists - which makes you look like an idiot.

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We gave you Jake from State Farm. Isn’t that enough? You want Flo?

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BTW, Iinked that clip @R318 which happened today, because I'd like you assholes to tell me who the real snowflakes are. Who has had a sense of entitlement his entire fucking life and still yells like a bitch.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 32006/17/2020

R320 you seem quite upset.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 32106/17/2020

Not as upset as Matt Gaetz got when he got called out. In fact, I've very rarely gotten THAT upset.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 32206/17/2020

R319, I was literally about to say that Jake from State Farm and the Old Spice guy are next.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 32306/17/2020

I’m quite sure that Mrs. Butterworth has never been a black woman. I think that the brown glass confuses the issue, but that part could be corrected. Unless the syrup people consider it a lost cause.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 32406/17/2020

So you're as genuinely stupid, R323, and proud to announce that fact.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 32506/17/2020

Harlan Sanders was one of those fake racist Kentucky Colonels.

But now it is KFC.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 32606/17/2020

[quote] OMFG it's hard to believe shit like this used to be normal.

Tell us about it

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If they make people feel bad, get rid of both.

It's just pancakes and rice. You bitches shouldn't be eating either.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 32806/17/2020

I don't think Mrs. Butterworth was ever presented as black.

In the old commercials, the bottle used to come to life and speak, and she sounded like Mrs. Claus from the Rudolph cartoon.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 32906/17/2020

[quote] But what about my microwave cinnamon coffee cake?

What about my creme brûlée?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 33006/17/2020

R328 you make me feel bad, should we get rid of you? Why are your feelings more important than moi?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 33106/18/2020

LOL Matt Gaetz thinking people believe he's fucked a woman.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 33206/18/2020

In this ad there is asparagus wrapped in pancakes with cheese sauce, and I want to know wha the FUCK is up with that.

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[quote]White people LOOOOVE owning this weird golliwog shit

Actually the only guy I know that ever collected that shit was gay and Mexican American. But go ahead with your racist stereotypes of white people.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 33406/18/2020

R315. The restaurant’s founders, Sam Battistone Sr. and Newell Bohnett, originally derived the name by combining their nicknames “Sam” and “Bo.” Therefore the name Sambos. But they have been dogged as racist for decades. It's sketchy considering their decor. I grew up there, I know the story well. Back in the day it brought the whole chain down just to that one location is left.

My hunch was that the name was authentically not racist as the two owners. But then someone had the bright idea to tie it into a story with a similar name completely clueless at the time it was racist.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 33506/18/2020

Could it be that the company realized that they could sell more pancake mix to black people if the name of the product did not reference the era of slavery?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 33606/18/2020

[quote]Bye Auntie and Uncle Ben. This seems both stupid and inevitable. So no black faces on food products in a few months somehow will end racism,

that's hardly the point, TROLLY

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 33706/18/2020

I never really understood the issue with Sambo's, since in the story of Little Black Sambo, the character is Indian, not African.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 33806/18/2020

again, it's a term used against blacks in the south, geez

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 33906/18/2020

Since when was Mrs. Butterworth black? And even if she were, now being a nice old lady is a "negative racist" image?

When did Jake from State Farm go from being a chubby old white guy with a midwestern accent ("Khaaahhh-kis?") to a young Black guy? THey're actually running both versions on air as we speak.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 34006/18/2020

why not? and what the fuck is it to you, asshole?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 34106/18/2020

I wonder if these bandages are good for the butt-hurt the SJWs have suffered all these years over those racist pancakes and wild rice.

"Uncle Ben," always appeared to be a dignified gentleman to me.

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Companies are free to do what they want with respect to their products' images. But there will come a time, "offensive" images will be banned and scrubbed from the internet. And you won't be able to buy something like this at the antique mall.

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Col Saunders....comment?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 34406/18/2020

I sometimes think this is all just a distraction so we don't change the real racism that really affect the lives of people of color. It gets the racists all worker up while not addressing the real problems. Will Aunt Jemima going really change the lives of anyone? Don't get me wrong, the brand should have been changed years ago but I don't see it going having any affect on the real racism in this world.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 34506/18/2020

Matt Gaetz and "son":

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 34606/18/2020

R331, don't be intentionally stupid.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 34706/18/2020

Are you bitches going to try to cancel me next?

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I cancelled you DECADES ago r348.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 34906/18/2020

[quote]Since when was Mrs. Butterworth black?

She is a syrup of color

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 35006/18/2020

She's of artificial color, just like the asshole in the White House.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 35106/18/2020

I think replacing all product spokespeople with orange emojis is the only foreseeable future. Anything else is racist!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 35206/18/2020

[quote] You expect TV, advertising and movies not to use demeaning, embarrassing caricatures of gays,

Have you seen even one episode of Will & Grace?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 35306/18/2020

R353, that's my point. And having been on DL for a long time, I saw the complaints RIGHT HERE at the time about it! You can't whine about the constant, "flamboyant" portrayals of gay people and then tell others to STFU over what they find offensive, especially when it's history is based in slavery.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 35406/18/2020

[quote]it's

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 35506/18/2020

OK, I deserved that one^

It's* been some time since I got an "Oh dear"

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 35606/18/2020

I love your attitude, r356. I really do.

“Oh, dear!” should be taken as teasing. Too many people take it seriously.

(I’m not the one who gotcha though, but I still like your attitude.)

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 35706/18/2020

I guess Aunt Jemima was based on this.

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R357, you got me on a good day. I'm an asshole most of the time.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 35906/18/2020

Sorry Bitches, in full color I was white.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 36006/18/2020

I guess if it's ok with mom and dad...

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 36106/18/2020

Maybe they could replace Aunt Jemima with Aunt Bea from the old Andy Griffith Show.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 36206/18/2020

I got a magic solution for this, au, uh, ma, ma, ma ME!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 36306/18/2020

It may seem dumb to some, but Aunt Jemima will be just one more thing I grew up with that I will miss. Sometimes "progress" sucks.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 36406/18/2020

[quote]Maybe they could replace Aunt Jemima with Aunt Bea from the old Andy Griffith Show.

No. Aunt Jemima seemed nice. Aunt Bea seemed like a cunt.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 36506/18/2020

Mrs. Butterworth falls.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 36606/18/2020

Cream of Wheat also falls.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 36706/18/2020

R364 the maids and cooks are mexicans now, thanks.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 36806/18/2020

Anna Mae Harrington was a cook who was discovered by Quaker Oats in 1935. She was chosen to portray Aunt Jemima as a spokeswoman, and she did so around the United States for 20 years dressed up as Aunt Jemima. Her great-grandson says ending the brand is ERASURE of black history and the first black women in marketing.

Harrington's family claimed her pancake recipe was also used by Quaker Oaks, and sued Quaker Oats in 2014. Quaker Oaks corporate lawyers defeated them in court when a judge threw out the case. Funny how Quaker Oaks hasn't mentioned this at this week!

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Quaker OATS

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 37006/18/2020

R369, see R232.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 37106/18/2020

Corporation decides to update their stereotypical packaging.

Reasonable people on DL: "That's probably for the best"

Right-wing Trumpettes on DL: "Extremists!"

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 37206/18/2020

As a kid of the '80s, I ate and loved Cream of Wheat, Aunt Jemima waffles and pancakes (so glad when my mom switched from Bisquick) and Uncle Ben's all the time. They were the best.

I would guess there would be some value in having black faces associated with the care, warmth and nourishment provided by beloved brands at the top of their categories.

When my mom said we were having Cream of Wheat with brown sugar or Aunt Jemima waffles, I didn't get excited because a black character was serving me and reinforcing my privilege. I got excited because they were fucking delicious! It was my white mom who was making breakfast.

But it's not my place to complain. I'm not black. My perspective is not the one that matters. If those symbols make black people feel oppressed, let 'em go and rebrand. Just don't change the recipes!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 37306/18/2020

[quote] Aunt Bea seemed like a cunt.

True that.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 37406/18/2020

Can't we all just get along?

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[quote] If those symbols make black people feel oppressed

They DON'T. But it furthers the agenda of BLM and a few extremists, and their ignorant supporters like R372.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 37606/18/2020

We were a Log Cabin family as far as syrup goes.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 37706/18/2020

They should rebrand under the Oprah banner.

Oprah Pancake Syrup.

Oprah par-boiled rice.

and so on.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 37806/18/2020

Golden Griddle was the best syrup. It was so buttery.

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Golden Griddle sounds like Trump Waffle House sirop d'Trump.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 38006/18/2020

What's gonna happen to "Mammy's Cupboard" restaurant in Natchez? I fear we're soon going to lose this delightfully tacky piece of 'merican novelty architecture.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 38106/18/2020

Aunt Bea wasn’t so much a cunt. But I’ve heard that the actress who played her, Frances Bavier, could cunt it up pretty good, but mellowed out later in life.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 38206/18/2020

It was Aunt Bee.

Not Aunt Bea.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 38306/18/2020

Wasn’t her name Beatrice?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 38406/18/2020

Yes, but her nickname was spelled muthafuckin' B-E-E!

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It’s a good thing that they retired Post Rice Krinkles in the 1960s. So-Hi, the little Chinese boy, wouldn’t have survived this week.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 38606/18/2020

Yup..this is going to fix everything. First the Land O Lakes chick, now Auntie Jem. Fuck guilty white people.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 38706/18/2020

So, r385, what is your position on Aunt Bee replacing Aunt Jemima on the pancake mix branding?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 38806/18/2020

Remember the California Raisins? What a shitstorm that would be today.

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R389 I'm a racist today because of those raisin ads!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 39006/18/2020

Oh no, I hope they forgot about my racist Asian Hot wings.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 39106/18/2020

"Not Trade em' for Manhattan" Really? Then why did you make that text in the upper left corner so tiny?

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 39206/18/2020

Well, the real question is whether it's "aunt" Jemima or "ant" Jemima.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 39306/18/2020

lmao R157. Good ol' Rachel. Seems so innocent now.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 39406/18/2020

I went to the grocery store tonight and there were still Aunt Jemima products on the shelf. I'm thinking there will be a run on them at some point as people buy a remembrance of such a important American cultural icon.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 39506/18/2020

The only syrup that will be left will be Log Cabin Republican syrup. The Left, by not eating its own, has eaten its own.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 39606/18/2020

Or maybe “Uncle Fester Pancake Mix” (Uncle Fester of the Addams Family).

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 39706/18/2020

Was the official pronunciation "Ant Jemima" or "Aahnt Jemima"?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 39806/19/2020

R398 "Ant"

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 39906/19/2020

But what's to become of rumored-to-be step sister of the late Diana, Princess of Wales and Pakistani First Lady Jemima Goldsmith? Will she get rid of the "i" in her name and being calling herself "Jemma" instead? I'm so worried about her.....

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[quote] I went to the grocery store tonight and there were still Aunt Jemima products on the shelf. I'm thinking there will be a run on them at some point as people buy a remembrance of such a important American cultural icon.

No, R395. Just no. Please tell us that you are being sarcastic.

1. Aunt Jemima is not an important American cultural icon. It's a brand. That's all. Just a device. Not cultural, though it did seek to capitalize on a popular character built on racial stereotypes embedded in our culture. Not at all an icon. On the brand's very best and most popular day, no one was venerating pancakes or syrup or fictional Aunt Jemima herself. There are people who rise to the level of 'an important American icon,' but Aunt Jemima isn't one of them.

2. If people want to buy perishables as remembrances, they really are too fucking stupid to live. Even packed with preservatives as these products surely are, they aren't going to last long enough to be much of a remembrance. Not even if one is accustomed to keeping remembrances in the refrigerator.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 40106/19/2020

R401 doesn't know what the word icon means.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 40206/19/2020

Fuck you, R402. The Aunt Jemima brand has nothing on the Uncle Ben's brand or Cream of Wheat. All three brands trade on old racial stereotypes and that's the end of it. There is nothing about any of them that raises them up to the sort of exalted level that makes something an icon. They come from a dark part of a culture, but add nothing new to it. None of them are more central to the American experience than the Quaker Oats brand, Elsie the cow, Josephine the Lady Plumber, or Madge the manicurist.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 40306/19/2020

GIMME A BREAK! would be taken off the air. It was a sitcom about a FAT , BLACK WOMAN working as a MAID for a WHITE family.

The song Nel Carter sings- I've finally made it to the top-She made it to the STEREOTYPICAL top!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 40406/19/2020

Oh, now I see, R403, according to you, only white icons can be icons.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 40506/19/2020

First they came for Aunt Jemima and I said nothing...

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 40606/19/2020

R406, laugh out loud (I never "LOL). I think I just woke up my neighbours!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 40706/19/2020

R404, fast forward to the 5 minute mark.

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Not only funny, R406, but very prophetic.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 40906/19/2020

The anger about this from some of you is just strange. I don't know if you're being this over the top for comedic purposes or if you really believe what you are typing.

I just can't believe that this site, where there are been bloody street brawls about off the shelf mayo versus making it yourself, is this hung up over pancake mix.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 41006/19/2020

If they change the name from Jemima to Shaniqua or LaKesha or LaShondra, I'll break Mrs Butterworth's heart and switch brands!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 41106/19/2020

R410, it's the right-wing culture warriors having a shit fit.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 41206/19/2020

R403 Get thee to a HBCU, or at the very least a dictionary.

The word icon has several definitions, but the primary and most general one is NOT what you think (i.e. "cultural icon"), despite Janet naming one of her albums that and MTV creating an "Icon" award.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 41306/19/2020

[quote]Mrs. Butterworth falls.

I thought the bitch was white.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 41406/19/2020

`The (white) actress who voiced Mrs. Buttersworth shot herself with a shotgun. Guilt?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 41506/19/2020

Hasn't Mrs. Butterworth always been a fat white frau?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 41606/19/2020

Yes, but when you fill her with dark syrup she reminds people of a mammy. Being right next to Aunt J. Doesn’t help.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 41706/19/2020

Aunt Jemima will be renamed "Marsha's" and her image replaced with that of Marsha P. Johnson.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 41806/19/2020

Since the syrup is mostly corn syrup, they could bring back that Indian woman and re-brand it Aunt Maizie's.

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Like r52, we were a Log Cabin syrup family. Even as a boy, I knew damn well Aunt Jemima was a slave. It helped to have grown up in Detroit and learned about the '67 race riots while still very young. Pretty sure my mom simply refused to buy any of that bigoted-marketing crap. And she was anything but a woke Karen. She worked full-time, and my brothers & I were latchkey kids. She worked alongside African-American women and knew damn well what was racist - and misogynistic.

Very surprised - but not shocked - to see middle-aged, white DataLoungers defending this garbage. Many Americans are resistant to change of any kind.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 42006/19/2020

If they get rid of the Cream of Wheat guy, I'll switch to Malt-o-Meal because there's nothing wrong with Cream of Wheat guy. He's just a man in an old-fashioned chef hat serving a bowl of hot cereal.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 42106/19/2020

If they get rid of the Cream of Wheat guy, I'll switch to Malt-o-Meal because there's nothing wrong with Cream of Wheat guy. He's just a man in an old-fashioned chef hat serving a bowl of hot cereal.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 42206/19/2020

[quote] Hasn't Mrs. Butterworth always been a fat white frau?

From the links above:

[quote] Though there have been debates over Mrs. Butterworth’s race, some have associated the shape of the brand’s syrup bottles with the offensive "Mammy" racial caricature of stereotype for Black women.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 42306/19/2020

We call it maize...

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 42406/19/2020

We were a Log Cabin family, too ... but then I don't remember there being an Aunt Jemima syrup back in the '50s/'60s. It was only a pancake mix as far as I know. I do remember when Mrs. Butterworth's came along, but before that all I can remember is Log Cabin. Were there any other national brands of syrup?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 42506/19/2020

I never liked Aunt Jemima. Even as a kid, I picked up on something ugly about it. But I loved Mrs. Butterworth. I thought the bottle was beautiful. I did think she was supposed to be a black woman, but I never thought of it as being a disgusting depiction like Aunt Jemima. But Mrs. Butterwirth? There were days I'd open the pantry and sit her on my lap and we'd talk and talk and play games. Just me and my bottle of racist maple syrup.

I now denounce that cunt.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 42606/19/2020

My great grandmother made pancakes from scratch always with corn in the batter, and she made her own syrup as well which is so easy to prepare. It's just equal parts water, brown sugar, and tbsp of butter.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 42706/19/2020

[quote]My great grandmother made pancakes from scratch always with corn in the batter, and she made her own syrup as well which is so easy to prepare.

Damn only 400+ replies until one of you "from scratch" queens chimed in!

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Its no wonder the 1% push racial issues to the forefront. To distract poor people of all colors. form their tyranny and hatred.

People who buy into it are sheep.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 42906/19/2020

So true, R429.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 43006/19/2020

Amazon warehouse workers slam Jeff Bezos' company for offering staff 'an authentic meal' of chicken and waffles as part of their Juneteenth celebration

he workers took to Facebook to express their outrage over the 'racist' meal

Amazon said the restaurant was selected because it is a favorite among workers

The restaurant is a local, black-owned business that serves soul food and is called Chicago's Home of Chicken and Waffles

The Facebook group added that some warehouse workers' responses to the chicken and waffles included 'That's some racist s**t, who idea was that lol' and 'I love chicken and waffles, but damn that IS insulting as hell. Should I bring the watermelon too? Lol.'

And they probably made the waffles from Aunt Jemima mix and served with Mrs Butterworth

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[quote] Log Cabin syrup family. Even as a boy, I knew damn well Aunt Jemima was a slave. It helped to have grown up in Detroit and learned about the '67 race riots while still very young.

That's funny, I had the opposite view when I was a kid. I though oh a successful black woman had a product she made on the shelf. Not being sarcastic. I didnt see her as a slave or otherwise. No different than Chef Boyardee. Real Italian chef that canned his recipe. And no my mom was not a Karen either, both parents worked full time professional jobs. And I can honestly say I never heard either of them use the N word in the house ever.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 43206/20/2020

While you are at it, stop putting these fucking Cigar Indians in front of your stores and in your man caves you racist smokers!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 43306/20/2020

Kraft, you in danger, gurl!

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[quote] And the Land o Lakes butter Indian maiden was sent to some reservation months ago. Leaving a quite lonely package behind.

And in the height of irony, they took the Indian away and left the land!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 43506/20/2020

I hear you, R434.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 43606/20/2020

Next on the list...

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[quote]Amazon warehouse workers slam Jeff Bezos' company for offering staff 'an authentic meal' of chicken and waffles as part of their Juneteenth celebration

Wait until they find out that R199 was for dessert...

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 43806/20/2020

R437, Candace Owen never looked better.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 43906/20/2020

R206 is PRESCIENT

Eskimo Pie is now RIP in peace

Now there are no Native American representatives in commercial brand advertising.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 44006/20/2020

ilu Eskimo Pie

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 44106/20/2020

If a beloved figure of a proud, successful African-American woman like AJ isn't acceptable to white corporate America, there's not going to be any new representation of African-American women to replace her.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 44206/20/2020

R434, does Kraft still make Kraft Canadian Singles? They used to.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 44306/20/2020

White Cloud Toilet Tissue

White Diamonds Perfume

White Rock Soda

White Shoulders Powder

Y'all in danger, gurls.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 44406/21/2020

What race or nationality is that goddamned Mr. Peanut supposed to be? Because I'll tell you, his fucking days are numbered if hes English. I will NOT be represented by a monocke-wearing legume.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 44506/21/2020

Another example is ANIMAL CRACKERS- The animals used to be in cages. That was considered inhumane, so now the little box of cookies depicts the animals roaming around free.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 44606/21/2020

[quote]What race or nationality is that goddamned Mr. Peanut supposed to be?

Legumebian

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 44706/21/2020

r446 Yeah, but they're still called CRACKERS!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 44806/21/2020

r446: That doesn't bother me. I think it's lovely, actually.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 44906/21/2020

ANIMAL CRACKERS? LOL I missed that one. But then I haven't bought them since I was a child. Graphics look better though.

I am still bothered by what someone pointed out above with regard to Land-O-Lakes. Removing the woman but keeping the land? That's like saying the Smallpox blankets worked and their land is now are!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 45006/21/2020

Of course Land-O-Lakes never considered having an accurate depiction of a Native American on its packaging.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 45106/22/2020

Cracker Jacks is next I suppose.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 45206/22/2020

That sucks about the Eskimo Pie.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 45306/22/2020

I was on Skype with a buddy from the Czech Republic yesterday. He's afraid his favorite chocolate bar might be endangered, because of its logo.

But something tells me mainland Europe racist logos are safe for now, because there aren't any black people around those places to actually protest.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 45406/22/2020

[quote]He's afraid his favorite chocolate bar might be endangered, because of its logo.

Does the racist logo add to the flavor or is your friend a dumbass? You know they can change the picture and that won't actually change the candy bar itself...right?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 45506/22/2020

Fuck buddy, R454?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 45606/22/2020

Am I supposed to be offended as a person with Irish heritage?

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 45706/22/2020

I don't know, are you a leprechaun r457? Or just short and ginger?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 45806/22/2020

Everyone is supposed to be offended about EVERYTHING, R457. It's the new normal.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 45906/22/2020

This cancel culture has lost its mind. In video below, Paul Joseph Watson shows how canceling Aunt Jemima does nothing to fight racism.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 46006/22/2020

r457 it's nice you sobered up long enough to notice.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 46106/22/2020

[quote]Of course Land-O-Lakes never considered having an accurate depiction of a Native American on its packaging.

The image that was removed was by a Native American artist who did try to add authenticity to it. That's what makes the situation even worse.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 46206/23/2020

What about the speciesism against your famished Oryctolagus cuniculus? It's pure sadism.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 46306/23/2020

It's also ageism, R463.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 46406/23/2020

R460, no one said it would stop racism. It just means I do not have to think about my ancestors in shackles as I walk down the supermarket aisle.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 46506/23/2020

R460, I'll pass on anything put out by an alt-right conspiracy theorist. Let me guess, you're a big QAnon fanboy.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 46606/23/2020

Blue lives matter.

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R465 the fact you can look at a fucking syrup bottle and think about your ancestors in chains says way more about you than it does racism. Smells like a built in excuse for every failure in your life . Madame CJ Walker had it far worse than you,yet she was a self made millionaire . Ask yourself what was so different when black people became wealthy,educated ,made something of themselves in a time when all odds were stacked against them yet you are "triggered" by a syrup bottle or pancake mix .

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 46806/23/2020

I just want to see if GIFs are working yet

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 46906/23/2020

R468, your intense emotion about this tells us all we need to know about you.

I never said I was triggered by the image of Aunt Jemima. I said that I do not want to see it when I am shopping. Most normal people do not want to be see reminders of things like slavery, the Holocaust, Jeffrey Dahmer, children in cages, etc on commercial products. That is a normal response. Most people find that packaging that calls to mind human suffering makes shopping an unpleasant experience.

Triggering is usually used to mean an abnormal, out-of-control, or exaggerated response. Like your post here.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 47006/23/2020

I haven't seen anything mentioned of her descendants' response....

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R470 answer the question dear . How were so many able to overcome during those dark years for blacks,yet so many now claim they cant because "Racism!" . I wont hold my breath.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 47206/23/2020

r470, I simply decided to block r468. And I'm not typically a blocker here at DL. I had previously blocked a grand total of one mentally unhealthy/unstable individual in the grocery hell threads. Some of these folks are afflicted with psychological projection just like their Orange Messiah. They constantly spew garbage terms like "triggered" when it's obvious what they are describing is actually their own mindset/behavior. It's so odd to run across them here on DL. More common now in the age of the Orange Stain. I have no interest in their drivel.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 47306/23/2020

R470, it is very hard to respond because the question is so stupid. So let me take it down a few levels:

Black people are overcoming. But racism also exists.

Black people in the past overcame. But racism was a huge barrier. For every Madame Walker there were hundreds of black business people who had doors shut in their faces by banks and landlords.

Things are better now. But that is different than things being good.

Maybe a package in a grocery aisle is a small thing, but if we cannot show even the small courtesy of eliminating a form of address from the slavery era from a package--how can we hope to tackle the bigger things?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 47406/23/2020

^^^Sorry, but that should have been addressed to R472.

I guess stupidity is catching.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 47506/23/2020

Oooo R473 blocked me ! How shall I go on ??? Theres got to be a support group for people like me !

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 47606/23/2020

I must say I have recently read some things, and I've watched some vintage video of how Aunt Jemima was treated: she was treated as a rock star everywhere she went.

The vintage film clip I saw featured her alighting from a quite grand limousine at a television studio for an appearance. The white chauffeur in proper livery stretched out his hand to her, aiding her up on the curb.

People often requested her autograph as well. She was featured in cooking demos, and from what I read, was considered a cooking authority.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 47706/23/2020

But, R477. It really would have been more respectful if she, or the character she was playing, had a last name.

Dogs have one name. Dogs and slaves. It's not a good thing. And it's time to move it on over to the history books.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 47806/23/2020

[quote]Dogs have one name. Dogs and slaves.

And Cher, and Madonna...

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 47906/23/2020

Cher,Madonna,Prince etc,etc,etc.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 48006/23/2020

Aunt Cher

Aunt Madonna

Uncle Prince

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 48106/23/2020

In other news, the Nonbinary wing of the LGBTQIA+ movement has succeeded in having Mrs Butterworth renamed Mx Butterworth. However, vegan activists protested, so now it's Mx Margarineworth.

A spokesman for Log Cabin Syrup took a knee, weeping, and apologized for the brand's potential association with Log Cabin Republicans. The brand has been renamed Communal Yurt Syrup.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 48206/23/2020

[quote]I never said I was triggered by the image of Aunt Jemima. I said that I do not want to see it when I am shopping. Most normal people do not want to be see reminders of things like slavery

Except you are projecting. Most people see a small pic of black lady on the cover of a label. Did you have the same response with the Native American on the Land -O - Lakes butter packaging before they removed it or did it not even occur to you? As someone who is part Native American should I feel traumatized by that? It's a stupid package with outdated branding. Grow the fuck up.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 48306/23/2020

Um time to cancel this movie then. It's not OK for black guys to play white chicks anymore than white guys playing black guys. Pot meet Kettle.

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R 483, you seem to triggered and traumatized by a lot of things.

Most people just want minimal respect and think it is reasonable to expect merchants to provide it.

But you keep going to triggering and traumatizing. Why do you get so upset by this subject?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 48506/23/2020

It's inevitable something will need to be done about this....

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Yes, R486. They will now mix the brown and white sugars together and just label it "sugar".

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 48706/23/2020

Stop being obtuse. White sugar and brown sugar? Really? Is the white sugar oppressing the brown sugar? Did white sugar enslave brown sugar? This nonsense perpetuates the problem.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 48806/23/2020

Can I still order black coffee ☕?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 48906/23/2020

NO🚫 R489

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 49006/23/2020

It's called person-of-color coffee, R489 , and you can't add cream.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 49106/23/2020

No R489. It is just coffee without cream or sugar. Do not call it black. You are treading on thin ice if you do.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 49206/23/2020

I want the new name chosen to be "Auntie Mames' Pancake Mix" -- with Roz holding the pancakes platter on the front of the box and Lucy in a floppy chef's hat covered in flour making them on the back.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 49306/23/2020

[quote]They will now mix the brown and white sugars together and just label it "sugar".

Brown sugar is actually white sugar with molasses added. So it's already a Mulatto.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 49406/23/2020

[quote] Most people just want minimal respect and think it is reasonable to expect merchants to provide it. But you keep going to triggering and traumatizing.

I am not triggered Dear, I could care less what they do with that bottle. But apparently you dont have the capacity to understand analogies.

If you look at your own words up thread you were triggered about looking at a syrup bottle and upset about ancestors you never met generations long in the past.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 49506/23/2020

[quote]I want the new name chosen to be "Auntie Mames' Pancake Mix" -- with Roz holding the pancakes platter on the front of the box and Lucy in a floppy chef's hat covered in flour making them on the back.

Or we could call them "Pancakes Barbara!" with Norma Shearer and Joan Crawford on the box.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 49606/23/2020

Imitation of Life Pancake Mix—every fifth box contains a bauble from Laykin et Cie! Don't forget the recipe for Fellucci Agreed to My Terms Breakfast Casserole on the back!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 49706/23/2020

I can't believe nobody has posted this yet. I used to make these all the time.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 49806/23/2020

Because no one cars about your infinite boobies gif R489, what are you 12 years old trapped in a 90 year old body?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 49906/23/2020

[quote]I am not triggered Dear, I could care less what they do with that bottle. But apparently you dont have the capacity to understand analogies.

Apparently you don't know how to compose a sentence. Did you perhaps mean you COULDN'T care less? If you could care less, it means you care. How embarrassing for you.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 50006/23/2020

The old Aunt Jemima packaging.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 50106/23/2020

How about Yellow Star Bagels and Lin Biao Special Chicken?

How long do you think they would last on the market?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 50206/24/2020

When you learn about how stereotypical they portrayed her image years ago, you can understand why the company finally chose to remove her from their products. Despite how long ago this occurred, the memory of its racists origins lingers on to this very day.

Even though many Blacks made their peace with that history, other Blacks (and other people) remained offended by it, or became offended once they learned about the story behind Aunt Jemima.

People who used these products might miss seeing a familiar image they've known since childhood, but ultimately, its not necessary to have in order to prepare and eat tasty pancakes.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 50306/24/2020

Ize sho wanna 'keep Aunt Jemima in dis house!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 50406/24/2020

Now I'm worried about Juanita!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 50506/24/2020

Who will step up to save Betty Cockrocker???

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 50606/24/2020

Not only is Chef Boy-ar-Dee a racist symbol of keeping Italians down by forcing them into the kitchen, it also contains the racist epithet "Boy."

Hey, wait a minute. The word "boycott" contains the same racist word!

Personcott? Zhecott? BLMcott?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 50706/24/2020

Rosarita - you in danger, chica!

By the way -- did you know that "refrito" does not mean refried? The "re" prefix in Spanish means "very," or "more." So, it's better translated as "well-fried," or "very fried."

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 50806/24/2020

WE DEMAND that the offensive anti-Latinx word "bean" be removed from the Rosarita label, and that the Cis Woman represented with an offensive, demeaning so-called "sombrero" be replaced by a Latinx Trans Woman of Color!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 50906/24/2020

Food is offensive.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 51006/24/2020

I couldn't agree more, R510.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 51106/24/2020

Starting tomorrow I'll have African-American coffee with my pancakes.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 51206/24/2020

But...but...she was the American Dream!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 51306/24/2020

So glad I buy generic so I don't have to deal with this shit.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 51406/24/2020

Chef Boyardee is supposed to be Italian? I never knew that. Boyardee certainly isn't an Italian name, I thought he was just a generic white dude.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 51506/24/2020

His real name was BOIARDI. They changed it so dumb Americans could pronounce it.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 51606/24/2020

[quote] Boyardee certainly isn't an Italian name

That’s OK. It’s not really Italian food.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 51706/24/2020

Rosarita will be replaced with Sylvia Rivera.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 51806/24/2020

[quote]Not only is Chef Boy-ar-Dee a racist symbol of keeping Italians down by forcing them into the kitchen, it also contains the racist epithet "Boy." Hey, wait a minute. The word "boycott" contains the same racist word!

You Dip Shit, it has nothing to do with the word boy. The Italian chef was forced to Americanize his name because his real name" Boiardi" was apparently "too difficult" for "real Americans" to bother trying to pronounce. BOOOOOY ---ARRRRRRRRR ----DEEEEEEE. Phonetic spelling or we wont buy your product. Welcome to racist America.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 51906/24/2020

They modernised images of Betty Crocker. Uncle Ben, and Aunt Jemima over the years in order to portray them in a less stereotypical, and more positive light. I honestly don't associate the brands with racism.

I'm not sure of the Cream of Wheat bloke, however. That said, and I posted earlier on how well the twenty-plus year Aunt Jemima was treated as a rock star, and how her relatives feel about the re-branding. I am however a daft white man, as I had no inkling Mrs. Buttersworth was meant to be a black woman in slave costume.

Last year before Passover, Manischewitz released a limited edition tin of macaroons featuring the font, and image of Mrs. Maisel... I honestly don't see the difference. I recall in the 70s there were box mixes of "Mrs. Manischewitz" potato knish with a picture of someone's bubbie on the box. Are these anti-semitic? I remember it was sort of a caricature portrait. I don't wish to make any black person to feel less than, or embarrassed about these products, but I think in light of the actual history of Aunt Jemima, this seems a bit odd. I might be ignorant of the "Aunt & Uncle" tradition... A friend asked me about that recently.

Is that the real objection, or faux pas? I wish that someone could clue me in!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 52006/24/2020

r519 name changes were very common then among many Northern Europeans as well. Germans, Swedes, Norwegians etc. often Anglicized their names or took and English name in order to better assimilate.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 52106/24/2020

R520, Aunt and Uncle were common ways to address older slaves, which is how Jemima got "Aunt". The package carries the imprint of slavery.

Mrs. Maisel is not a slave. At worst she is a neglected wife.

Maybe Gold Star Bagels or Rye Bread Makes Your Free or some Holocaust allusion on a package would be a better analog than Mrs. Maisel or a kindly grandma (unless the Bubbe has a number tattooed on her arm).

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 52206/24/2020

R522, "Aunt" and "Uncle" are still honorifics in many cultures and many parts of the country. I was brought up (in NYC) to address my parents' close friends as "Aunt Carol" and "Uncle Sid," etc. I have friends who are Trinidadian and their child addresses all adults she knows well as "Aunt" and "Uncle."

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 52306/24/2020

[quote] The package carries the imprint of slavery.

Everyone used to laugh at ridiculous SJW statements like that. But now here we are, living in his insane world.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 52406/24/2020

R523, but if you look at the early packaging of Aunt Jemima's the intent is not a general honorific but a form of address to a "mammy."

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 52506/24/2020

R524 can write the first testimonial for Gold Star Bagels.

"There are lots of gold stars in art! This packaging has nothing to do with anti-Semitism. What an insane world that people would think so!"

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 52606/24/2020

My parents make me call that nasty man next door "Uncle."

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 52706/24/2020

Cheers R522 for your reply, and input. I has suspected as much , after my American friend suggested as much. She's a "Northerner" and wasn't quite sure, and I'm British, so thank you again for the clarification.

I wasn't trying to equate oppression of Jews to slavery, or American blacks in general, but remember the portrait on the potato knish box to be something of a caricature, and I didn't find it particularly flattering, or necessary, so I give you props, and mad respect.

Three years ago, a friend sent me images from an auction here in the States of a lot comprised of multiple tins of seafood with the brand name being "Negro Head" and a portrait of a black man not unlike "Uncle Ben" I found it odd then as well. Some later issued tins, still featured the same gent's portrait, but "Negro Head" had been removed. I don't know if anyone here has familiarity with that brand, but to my sense, it was ridiculously racist.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 52806/24/2020

Little Debbie, speaking on behalf of "height challenged" people everywhere, plaintively asks " Hey, what the fuck is up with this "little" shit?!!"

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People don't know that, before their divorce, Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben were foster parents to Little Debbie. However, when she married Speedy, from Alka-Seltzer, an extreme racist, she never spoke to her foster parents again.

As we all know, Little Debbie died in the World Trade Center, in 2001, after eating improperly prepared blowfish. Jemima died in 1998 at the Hollywood Trademarks Home. Speedy was found dead in an alley in LA in the 60s from an apparent drug overdose and Uncle Ben is still with us at the age of 154.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 53006/24/2020

Uncle Ben was in a clandestine relationship with the Calgon guy. Hence the term "rice queen."

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 53106/24/2020

WTF is Mr. Clean supposed to be?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 53206/24/2020

HIV+ Not detectable r532

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 53306/24/2020

HIV+ Not detectable r532

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 53406/24/2020

To Miss Carpenter at R511 : You also found the song "Rainbow Connection" offensive because it wasn't about sex, so there's that.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 53506/24/2020

Is Mr. Potato offensive to potatoes?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 53606/24/2020

Indeed, r529...

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 53706/24/2020

I just wanna know what that Stella D'oro looks like...

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 53806/24/2020

Fongool, r538! Fongool!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 53906/24/2020

Stella D'Oro means "gold star," so go back to R526.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 54006/24/2020

Referring back to Aunt Jemima's origins or past and claiming that makes the current product offensive is like saying that Coca-Cola should be banned because it once had cocaine in it. What matters is what it is now.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 54106/24/2020

Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben, the Cream of Wheat guy all have an origin and the origin is this.

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[quote]name changes were very common then among many Northern Europeans as well. Germans, Swedes, Norwegians etc. often Anglicized their names or took and English name in order to better assimilate.

No shit Sherlock. I happen to be a descendant of one of them and if I told you my last name you would laugh. Pressuring someone to change their given name is still a form of racism regardless of how many people feel obligated to do it just to not be isolated. Immigrants today from those same country don't do that and nothing has stopped them from assimilating.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 54306/25/2020

[quote]Pressuring someone to change their given name is still a form of racism regardless of how many people feel obligated to do it just to not be isolated.

Many people did it voluntarily. They wanted to be Americans, and wanted to leave their birth countries behind. Many of them never returned to their birth countries, and wanted nothing to do with them. This is a foreign concept today but that's just how things were.

[quote]Immigrants today from those same country don't do that and nothing has stopped them from assimilating.

It's a totally different world today.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 54406/25/2020

The black Ant Jemima spokes woman did it voluntarily too. Stop trying to justify racism that Italian Americans also faced.

[quote]Many of them never returned to their birth countries, and wanted nothing to do with them.

Also your simplistic understanding of Italian history is wrong. They left because of poverty and America looked like it offered more opportunities at the time. I don't know a single Italian born immigrant that doesn't have fond memories of Italy or remain extremely loyal to their motherland. Even generations later.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 54506/25/2020

You're in danger Girl!

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 54606/25/2020

[quote]Also your simplistic understanding of Italian history is wrong. They left because of poverty and America looked like it offered more opportunities at the time. I don't know a single Italian born immigrant that doesn't have fond memories of Italy or remain extremely loyal to their motherland. Even generations later.

I actually *am* Italian-American, dipshit, and that's not what I said. I said they wanted nothing to do with their home countries, i.e. they wanted to be Americans and stay in America. They were glad to leave all the political conflict, social conflict etc. behind. In the first half of the 20th Century, the US was practically Utopia compared to the turmoil and strife of many European countries. European immigrants sailed to America and never looked back.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 54706/25/2020

Even the jingle was risque - Nothing could finer than the taste of Aunt Jemima in the mooooorning.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 54806/25/2020

I am part Italian as well, check your facts, a large percentage of Italians did in fact move back.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 54906/25/2020

Of course many immigrants moved back. And many stayed.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 55006/25/2020

Angela moved back. Sophia stayed.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 55106/25/2020

And then they both died.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 55206/25/2020

R546 As odd as the name may sound to some, as a Jew, it has never bothered me a bit. Funnily enough, after my Dad was struck with Alzheimers, he began to "wander" out the house...my mum once said, "I wonder what the neighbours think...here comes the wandering Jew again?" We both had a good laugh.

I believe naming the plant simply is an allusion to the diaspora, and how resilient we are as a people. We've spread to all corners of the world, as this plant is want to do as well.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 55306/26/2020

It's still degrading r553. Just because you found humor in something dose not excuse it worth. Some people though lamp shades out of human skin were pretty and a clever use of trash.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 55406/26/2020

Any truth to the rumor that Betty Crocker was the one who called INS on Juan Valdez?

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 55506/26/2020

Jesus R554 , isnt that a tad of a reach ? Its just a plant .Not an indictment against the jewish race.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 55606/26/2020

And it's just a bottle of syrup R556.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 55706/26/2020

The idea that Mrs. Butterworth is a black woman is pretty racist if you think about it.

"Oh look, a heavyset docile woman associated with flood...... she MUST BE BLACK!"

Oh, the irony!

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 55806/26/2020

"flood"= "food"

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 55906/26/2020

r558 Well, the bottle IS brown.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 56006/26/2020

Not when the syrup comes out of it.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 56106/26/2020

Who wore it better?

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 56206/26/2020

Who wore it better?

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 56306/26/2020

r561 When the bottles were glass, they were sort of an amber color when empty.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 56406/26/2020

You just know this is a DLer....

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 56506/26/2020

R564 anyone with eyes could see the facial features and hair look like an old, European (possibly Scandinavian) woman, like a Mrs. Claus type.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 56606/26/2020

That's not funny, R554. You owe R553 a most sincere apology.

And you owe it to the rest of us to just go away for a long, long, time.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 56706/27/2020

I don't owe anyone an apology for calling out their racism just because THEY felt since it was funny, its not racist. Sometimes you have to use biting example to get through to people. The kind that get upset if you make a joke about their background because that's "off limits" but its ok for them to wright off their racism of other people because they found it humorous.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 56806/28/2020

R568 Are you Jewish? If not, PLEASE do not speak for me in this conversation. I don't need to apologise as a nearly fifty-two year-old Jew for NOT finding "Wandering Jew" offensive, or pejorative. Furthermore, it's a bit off-topic, however we Jews are not a "race" per se.

I have posted some sympathetic responses to your pleas here. About the plight of African-Americans being portrayed different to how they would prefer. I deferred to that, and had assumed you were African-American yourself. (not that you can't be both black and Jewish, however I don't believe this is the case herein)

What you most certainly do owe an apology for is the lampshade allusion. Very ugly, unnecessary, and especially repugnant to me, as a Jew who lost many relatives in two camps. It wasn't germane here, and I've never heard such an equating to the naming of said plant.

You're reaching to make rubbish PC arguments is all. I can see right through you. Jews don't need you, black or otherwise telling us what we ought to deem offensive or pejorative.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 56906/29/2020

And it's currently selling on eBay for $29.95, Get it while it lasts.

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by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 57006/29/2020

They have it at the grocery store for regular price. That section was fully stocked today.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 57106/29/2020

How unusual that the only word hyphenated in R503's ad is the word mother, and that they capitalized it.

by You're next, Uncle Ben!reply 57206/30/2020
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