The NY Times reports the company Town Sports International may have to declare bankruptcy. The company owns 200 gyms, including New York Sports Club and ones in Boston, Philadelphia and DC. The ones in NYC are pretty crappy but cheap. They are at least marginally nicer than Crunch. If gyms disappear, what are the gays going to do?
Gyms Going Bankrupt!
|by Anonymous||reply 206||Last Saturday at 2:47 PM|
A gym where you have to make an appointment and wear a mask?
And NO showers for me to Showcase in??
|by Anonymous||reply 1||06/17/2020|
Link might be nice....
|by Anonymous||reply 2||06/17/2020|
This is what established gyms are up against.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||06/17/2020|
Don' t know where you girls live, but here in NYC any decent mid-tier to above apartment building has a gym or fitness center, especially new construction. Then you have all the latest at home fitness equipment like Peloton that have streamed live on-demand features.
Question then becomes how to lure people out of their homes to walk several blocks to a gym. This and of course membership dues and other issues.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||06/17/2020|
Back to cruising parks!
|by Anonymous||reply 5||06/17/2020|
Gyms without dark areas, gloryholes and private rooms have turned away from most of their potential business.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||06/17/2020|
Gyms have become glorified bathhouses
|by Anonymous||reply 7||06/17/2020|
How Equinox in NYC handling reopening post covid-19
|by Anonymous||reply 8||06/17/2020|
Everyone is going under. Didn't they have any money in savings in case of catastrophes?
|by Anonymous||reply 9||06/17/2020|
Years ago, if you went too early the 24 hour gym on 14th St. it still had used condoms all over the floors, and the guys would use the HVAC closet to avoid cameras.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||06/17/2020|
What likely hurt many gyms is that local or state attorney generals (if not governors) stepped in and demanded they stop billing people for dues during months where places were shut down by PAUSE orders.
Here in NYC people were livid their credit cards were being charged for monthly gym dues they couldn't get to because everything deemed not essential was shut.
That put gyms in same situation as many other retail or commercial tenants. They were paying rent but weren't generating income due to lack of customers, and or being forbidden to bill during shut down periods.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||06/17/2020|
24 Hour Fitness also filed Chapter 11 today.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||06/17/2020|
Those gyms were expensive, not cheap. Outside of NY gyms can charge 20 a month, offer more and make money.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||06/17/2020|
oh the hell with it, let em droop
|by Anonymous||reply 14||06/17/2020|
R13, everything in NYC is more expensive, but I was paying about $50 a month for New York Sports Club, which didn’t seem too bad.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||06/17/2020|
Don't know when you joined NYSC, but things are a bit different now.
They hit you up for an annual membership, then you also pay a monthly fee. Some plans charge a joining or other fees as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||06/17/2020|
Isn’t Equinox owned by the big Trump bundler? They say the public gyms are dirtier than a public toilet seat. FITTING!
|by Anonymous||reply 17||06/17/2020|
We bought a Nordic Track bike. - cheaper than Peloton...I love it and it is a tough workout. I do push up, pull up and have 20 lb barbells. I'm good.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||06/17/2020|
My LA Fitness has been closed for months and surprisingly they haven't been charging. I know that might odd, but they're known for all sorts of financial shenanigans - at least my location - so I'm surprised they didn't leave it up to us to call and put our memberships on hold and make it difficult to do so.
I just recently got free weights, a bench, and a standing rack I can use for bench or squats or other things. There was a run on free weights and other equipment at the beginning of quarantine and it took me a while to put my home gym together. I'm not sure I want to go back right when they open again.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||06/17/2020|
NYSC is basically across the street from me. I have no idea what I’m going to do when they go under.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||06/17/2020|
NYSC is not better than Crunch, OP. They are complete dumps.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||06/17/2020|
What are the real swank gyms in NYC? I'm not talking about athletic clubs where you have to be sponsored or be approved for membership or anything like that - just the gyms that have the nicest set up, cleanest, nicest equipment, and are probably more expensive.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||06/17/2020|
NYSC used to be terrible when it came to canceling gym memberships and such. Many people will be thrilled to see it go under
|by Anonymous||reply 23||06/17/2020|
I'm not, because it's the only thing that's convenient to me. Except for Blink, and that's a hard no.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||06/17/2020|
Bankruptcy does not mean the gyms will go under it just means they will run for president.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||06/17/2020|
But where can we proudly parade our crepe-like liver-spotted skin in front of all the hawt boys doing the Towel Dance?
|by Anonymous||reply 26||06/17/2020|
"Don' t know where you girls live, but here in NYC any decent mid-tier to above apartment building has a gym or fitness center, especially new construction."
I live in a high rise in suburban Philly and the gym in my building has been closed since mid-March by order of the state. A neighbor told me just the other day it may not open until fall.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||06/17/2020|
Traditional globo gyms are pretty much fucked during the pandemic.
People packed too closely together, too much equipment, no open windows or doors, people in close proximity for long periods of time.
Gyms in cities are even more fucked because they have no outdoor space-- outside of cities gyms are holding classes in parking lots and similar spaces and could conceivably continue with space heaters come winter.
But there's a big difference between working out outside on a 30 degree day and jumping into your warm car afterwards and having to trek home on the subway or a bus.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||06/17/2020|
LA Fitness is open again where I live, but with limited access and limited amenities. The pools, sauna and steam rooms and showers are closed. Only workout areas and changing areas are available. As the economy is officially reopened here, some of these feature closures and restrictions seem to be done not for anybody's safety, but for the gym to save money on utilities and staff. There is no risk from going swimming, for instance. I don't go to LAF, but a friend worked for them until they closed. He said they are operating with only one or 2 people per facility on duty per shift.
My HOA has a gym and it's still closed, along with most of the other amenities. There has been a lot of complaining about that lately, and people are starting to talk about suing the HOA and management company to force things to re-open. The management company let the maintenance people go, but it is still collecting the same fees as before.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||06/17/2020|
my gym was charging thru the months of being closed until May 1. They are repopened now and they charged me June fee. I contested the April charge with my cc company and got aprils charges credited back. I havent been to the gym since they reopened. I have driven by the parking lot at various times and it looks like its getting about a third of the crowd. We arent in a high covid area but it isnt low either really...............
I read an article the other day that ranked variuos activities on a risk scale with 9 being the highest and gyms were an 8. The event like Trump is having in Tulsa was ranked a 9. I dont see gyms recovering really. Its going to be hard for me to eventually go back even if covid goes away. Im saving my my money for a treadmill and weights for home. In the meantime I walk and do sit ups and push ups at home but the gym situation is one of the hardest things for me to deal with with covid, as weird as that may seem.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||06/17/2020|
"here in NYC any decent mid-tier to above apartment building has a gym or fitness center"
That reeks of a cheap high rise. We who live in downtown pre-war don't know of that.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||06/17/2020|
[quote]. Im saving my my money for a treadmill and weights for home
Try that with an NYC apartment.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||06/17/2020|
All the more reason to flee NYC and its ridiculously high rents, R32, and get a place that one can actually live in, and not just exist.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||06/17/2020|
[quote]All the more reason to flee NYC and its ridiculously high rents, [R32], and get a place that one can actually live in, and not just exist.
And jobs are so easy to find.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||06/17/2020|
Well... a lot of people were without money or jobs with COVID. No one wants to be working out and having someone else breathing and perspiring near them or leaving sweat marks on shared equipment. It's a droplet nightmare. And the bathrooms and changing rooms aren't much better.
I think people "took back the outside" during COVID and still are. Guess what, you don't need a gym membership or expensive equipment to work out.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||06/17/2020|
R22 I don't know how it relates to 'swanky' but I always liked NYHRC, the one on east 13th st. Was nice as the pool was two levels below, steam rooms and showers a floor above, changing rooms on the ground floor, next was the cardio level, and a great selection of machines and some manufacturer variants (I prefer Precor) but above that was a floor for stretching, pilates machines that required a trainer, and the 'class rooms' although I never saw any classes happening, and strength training on the top floor, so six floors of gym. That was another area they excelled in because they had a huge variety in machines. Never had to wait to use anything. Other facilities of theirs had other things, and you could go to whichever you preferred, but I liked this one.
Far cry from the most expensive places in Philly, even farther in CT.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||06/17/2020|
Well then your building needs to up their game. Plenty of pre-war rentals and co-ops added gyms/fitness areas in addition to redoing lobbies, adding children's playrooms, and other things . Many have had no choice but to add amenities or whatever to attract sales or tenants against so much new construction.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||06/17/2020|
Maybe not a full gym but you have Racquet and Tennis Club on Park Avenue.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||06/17/2020|
I don’t feel bad for corporations
|by Anonymous||reply 39||06/17/2020|
NY Sports Clubs squeezes you for every penny. Their reps lie to you about contracts. It's nearly impossible to quit the gym--it will just keep charging you every month.
It can go to hell
|by Anonymous||reply 40||06/17/2020|
"Many have had no choice but to add amenities or whatever to attract sales or tenants against so much new construction."
Not if you live in a nice building. You don't seem that familiar with pre-war buldings in downtown Manhattan.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||06/17/2020|
R32 / r33, ty doing that in any apartment -- not just NYC.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||06/17/2020|
Notoriously awful company----only the most persistent could ever get their membership to actually end and the gyms already were in trouble.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||06/17/2020|
r5 = Richard Quest
|by Anonymous||reply 44||06/17/2020|
The two old-school 24 hours fitness gyms I liked in Glendale and Pasadena are closing, so I'm out.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||06/17/2020|
There are cheap high-rise apartments in NYC?
|by Anonymous||reply 46||06/17/2020|
[quote]If gyms disappear, what are the gays going to do?
|by Anonymous||reply 47||06/17/2020|
Some of us don't have the joints for HIIT stuff.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||06/17/2020|
Bally's has a bankruptcy every few months, yet they still exist in some form.
Gyms are going nowhere.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||06/18/2020|
JEALOUS BITCHES- Since the 1990's I've my own weight set that I bought at Service Merchandise(anyone remember that catalog store?) years ago. It was a basic set of weights- plastic filled with sand- but it does the job. I only paid $19.99 for the weights and maybe $70 for the bench.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||06/18/2020|
There's always the YMCA!
|by Anonymous||reply 51||06/18/2020|
[R12] if you or others want to be added as claimants for refunds from 24HR Fitness, then here's where to go:
|by Anonymous||reply 52||06/18/2020|
24 hour fitness announced they were closing several locations here in Jersey.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||06/18/2020|
Watched film "The Lineup - 1958) other night was was thinking who wholesome YMCA, The Embarcadero, San Francisco (formerly Seaman's Club) seemed.
Never understood when or how YMCA locations got the reputation as dens of homosexual activity..... Hahahaha
|by Anonymous||reply 54||06/18/2020|
Gyms like Equinox, NYSC, etc., have reserve funds on hand at the corporate level and can easily get carry-over funding. They don't operate month-to-month like a family-owned restaurant or a mom-and-pop bakery barely making ends meet to pay their rent. Plus, business with expert legal and tax personnel are expert at writing off losses. Some may close locations but only because their forecasted revenue won't be high enough to keep investors happy.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||06/18/2020|
Town Sports parent of NYSC has spoke of filing bankruptcy in recent media releases. They lost $18 million on revenues of $427 million last year, and only have $12 million in reserves.
Will NYSC survive? Who knows, but much is going to depend same as for other gyms going forward in a world post covid-19.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||06/19/2020|
Revenues of $427 million last year, and it has only $12 million in reserves? Maybe it should close down due to poor fiscal management.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||06/19/2020|
They will go on and to attract members they will once again allow cocksucking in the steam room.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||06/19/2020|
Gyms in NYC won't be opening anytime soon....
|by Anonymous||reply 59||06/23/2020|
My gym in LA probably won't make it.
I had some good times there, but eventually it started to remind me too much of high school gym class.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||06/23/2020|
Equinox is now open in LA. I'm so on the fence. You walk in, they hand you towels wrapped in plastic, you book your 90 min session, and a mask must be worn except during exertion which is when you need the mask most. The pool and showers are open, but none of the amenities other than the bare bones. For $300/month, I want the full amenities and can work out at home, but actually miss going to the gym. I'm going to hold out for a bit.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||06/23/2020|
R61, Interesting, my location handed out towels (small and large) from behind the front desk as you checked in, no plastic wrap, just stacks like what you would have normally seen on the floor.
Wipes weren't so easily accessible so a lot of people weren't wiping down their equipment after (unless they were being assholes, which is definitely possible). Masks were 50/50; some wore them, some didn't. I did wear mine when I was lifting weights but ended up taking it off on the treadmill as I slowly increased my speed.
Every other shower was open, the Kiehl's pumps were still in there. I brought my own stuff but I guess they figure you're getting clean in the shower, it's okay to keep the pumps touched by however how many people are in there...?
Similar to your experience, I'm glad I visited once, but I haven't returned and don't plan on anytime soon.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||06/23/2020|
Anyone who goes to a fucking fun during this time is a MORON.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||06/24/2020|
[quote]Gyms in NYC won't be opening anytime soon....
I am going to be so weak when all this is over.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||06/24/2020|
This coronavirus is highly airborne, so people breathing and coughing near you could be quite dangerous. It's already obvious that many people don't want to wear masks and/or don't believe that this virus is as serious as it is.
People with strong immune systems may not get sick or may get mildly sick, but become carriers to others. I don't plan on going back to a gym for a while. We're not even finished with our first wave (in the U.S.) yet.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||06/24/2020|
So the people who survive this are going to be fat, out of shape, gays who never got dates anyway?
|by Anonymous||reply 66||06/24/2020|
$300 a month for Equinox? Chelsea Piers isn't nearly that.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||06/24/2020|
Going bankrupt doesn't mean it will disappear. It allows them to not pay some bills. Many retail businesses should be playing hardball w their rent: the landlords can evict the tenant, but then the landlord will have an empty space. Retail tenants should be negotiating w the landlords to share the pain.
However, another matter is how little reserves these businesses have. It seems every time there is a recession, the gov't steps in w myriad complicated programs. So we get too many restaurants, bars, gyms, etc. that we have to support w gov't handouts. People shouldn't be starting businesses w no reserves.
Individuals and businesses should all have 6 months of reserves. Ultimately, we are all paying for these handouts!
|by Anonymous||reply 68||06/24/2020|
Landlords in NYC love empty spaces, thank you asshole Bloomberg.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||06/24/2020|
I've gone twice to my LA Fitness since it just opened up again last week. It was empty enough both times that it was easy to stay well more than six feet away from everyone else, plus I wore a mask. I'm not concerned. The only thing I was leery about was the weights, because obviously no one's wiping those down after they use them.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||06/24/2020|
I am making it work from home and can’t see why I would go back to spending $250 a month for Equinox in NYC.
I’m sure I’m not the only one.
I feel like this is going to severely damage their business model permanently. I certainly hope so. I hate that company.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||06/24/2020|
Don't understand why some of you joined these gyms that you "hate", and more so forked over a few hundred per month to remain members.
People have been complaining about Equinox, NYSC, Crunch and rest in NYC for years; which is was one reason never joined. Too much drama.....
|by Anonymous||reply 72||06/24/2020|
Out of shape resentful fattie alert at r72
|by Anonymous||reply 73||06/24/2020|
Far from it; speak for yourself.
There are more ways to keep in shape than paying huge sums to some bougie gym.
At least when I do to a gym it is with purpose of using the place as intended. Most of you old to ancient out of shape gays only go to lurk about in steam rooms, saunas or other areas for sex.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||06/24/2020|
I've been going @ 5a since last wknd and only about 1/3rd of regulars have returned (& everyone's masked), so have been able to socially distanced most times. Plus gym has provided individual sprayers to disinfect pre and post. So far so good. However I won't be returning to classes anytime soon.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||06/24/2020|
I had a trainer at my gym and he was really getting me in shape. and he charged me maybe 1/3 of the going rate. He made working out fun and it was nice having a buffer between me and the steroid freaks on the gym floor. Memories of high school bullies can stick with you.
we bantered a lot and I worked hard. He was always making gay jokes. Like left and right. Constantly. The remarks stood out.
He wasn't gay though. He was married.
But he wasn't gay because he said he wasn't and then he confided in me he tried gay sex and 'didn't like it.' He was a little old to be experimenting, I thought. But that's just me.
He got weird. We stopped training. His call. It was hard to keep up. But seeing him at the gym has been awkward. I need to not go back when things open up and, hopefully, get better. I wish I could really learn to get in shape by myself.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||06/24/2020|
All of these chemical disinfectants can't be good.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||06/24/2020|
mine just announced reopening in a week, after more than four months closed
|by Anonymous||reply 78||06/24/2020|
[quote]Gyms Going Bankrupt!
What the fuck? I am?
|by Anonymous||reply 79||06/24/2020|
Pre-Covid, I used to go to Equinox 5 or 6 times a week. You couldn’t pay me to go back right now.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||06/24/2020|
NYSC deserves to go out of business. What a dump!
|by Anonymous||reply 81||06/24/2020|
My condo complex does have its own little excuse for a small gym area--but, alas, it's also been closed still due to the pandemic.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||06/24/2020|
Same as R80 here. In fact, I canceled my membership 2 months ago, I figured it would reopen - and restart the monthly membership charges - before I am ready to return. I definitely don't trust the hordes of soccer moms and YouTube "influencers" to wear masks, clean, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||06/24/2020|
Lean, ‘70s style bodies will be all the rage again. Not of this gross steroid body shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||06/24/2020|
R84 has never set foot in a gym, ever.
And he’s at least 70 years old.
And pear shaped and judgemental.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||06/24/2020|
Can Gym Jordan go bankrupt, too? Please?
|by Anonymous||reply 86||06/24/2020|
Equinox is a lifestyle and you pay for the entire luxury gym experience. I can grab a bite, work out, take a long steam/sauna/possible hookup, have as many towels as I like, and use all the nice products. You can spend a whole afternoon there and feel amazing afterwards. Right now with all the restrictions it is not worth the money and it does feel risky. Numbers are spiking where i am. Ultimately, Equinox is a terrible, soulless company that produces a product that is hard to surpass for now (assuming things open up eventually). Next level up would be clubs the require nominations or proposers.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||06/24/2020|
[quote] and it does feel risky
It *IS* risky.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||06/25/2020|
Will this be the end of the pumped up bod aesthetic?
|by Anonymous||reply 89||06/25/2020|
Fat out of shape nerds will survive this.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||06/25/2020|
You can change your body but you can’t change your penis, that’s what I say.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||06/25/2020|
Silly R68. No sole proprietorship opens with 6 months of operating capital. No mom and pop restaurant opens with six months of operating capital. What a tool.
Malls are already on the brink. One announced its total closure in my city this week. There aren't that many left open. Some shops are playing hardball with the rent, and the landlords are playing hardball back, locking up stores and restaurants that were still open. It's going to be a mess for years.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||06/26/2020|
I probably won't return to my gym and HIIT boutique until 2021.
They are still closed here in SF, but I will freeze until they let me, and then resume my monthly memberships (I've been a member for 10+ years at the gym and a founding member for studio so I pay lower monthly dues for both and don't want to lose that). Still I won't go until we've seen what reopening really looks like down the road.
Those things were petri dishes before filled with nothing but the grossest displays of human filth and selfishness. Ain't got 2 weeks or more to get the 'rona from there.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||06/26/2020|
[quote]Revenues of $427 million last year, and it has only $12 million in reserves? Maybe it should close down due to poor fiscal management.
Wrong. Revenues, profits and reserves are three completely different things. Revenues don't include any expenses. And many companies who aren't generating any revenue because of the virus will have dwindling cash reserves. That's exactly what's happening at my company. I work on Broadway and we've been paying bills with NO revenues via cash reserves.
R82 - Same with me. Building gym is closed & they put paper around the windows.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||06/26/2020|
Gyms along with malls in NYS are now toast. Per announcement yesterday by governor they will not be allowed to reopen as part of phase IV due to worries about spikes in covid-19 cases elsewhere.
Cuomo is going to drag this thing out until 2021 or beyond at this rate.
Unless or until some firm guidance about reopening comes soon, expect to see scores of small or even chain gyms/fitness places wind up. People can't continue paying rent on spaces without income, and not knowing when they will be allowed to restart.
This comes after many gyms, fitness and other such places already spent money on redesigning their spaces to suit post covid-19 world.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||06/26/2020|
No large or publicly traded company has large reserves of cash sitting around; it makes them a tempting target for the Carl Icahn's of the world.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||06/26/2020|
R91 - You actually can change your penis. The fat in your lower gut can effect the size of your dick, especially if you are very overweight. Guys who lose weight are surprised that their dicks are bigger than they thought.
"For every 30-50lbs, you lose an inch of visible penis".
|by Anonymous||reply 97||06/26/2020|
Just got off a Reddit discussion on gyms opening up.
Yuck city. Lots of people in TX regret their decision to jump on the reopening bandwagon.
Gyms say they will do X, Y, Z but really only care about getting you a$$ back.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||06/26/2020|
R97, you gain an inch, right?
I learned that from Debbie on QAF.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||06/26/2020|
The virus is merely a tool of the New World Order.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||06/26/2020|
Mark Wahlberg seems to believe gyms will not only bounce back, but have a rock solid future.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||06/27/2020|
On MSNBC, they reported that some gym just infected 200 plus members from one guy.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||06/30/2020|
My gym is closing the two locations in my area. I guess I'm not renewing my membership I've had since 1993.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||06/30/2020|
We lost all the 24 Hr Fitnesses in my state.
There is a huge hole in the downtown area now for full-size gyms.
|by Anonymous||reply 104||06/30/2020|
Now those roided-out gym queens can just get bloated, gag and die. hahahahahaha
|by Anonymous||reply 105||06/30/2020|
Nooooo! Now I'll have to limit my cruising to the bathhouses
|by Anonymous||reply 106||06/30/2020|
Gyms should have made better choices! Should not have made babies if they couldn’t support them!
|by Anonymous||reply 107||06/30/2020|
Even without COVID, many gyms have always teetered on the brink because their revenues are based on memberships. And many gyms never generate enough memberships to cover costs.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||06/30/2020|
New York gym owners aren't going down without a fight; they are getting lawyered up and telling Cuomo "see you in court".
|by Anonymous||reply 109||06/30/2020|
Can't these gym owners just sell their PED's and roids on the street, like any other respectable drug dealer?
|by Anonymous||reply 110||06/30/2020|
Yup. Cancelled Equinox on reopening day in LA.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||06/30/2020|
Gays and their Gyms have the same relationship Black Women have with their churches: Yes, they could "worship" at home, but then they could not show off their "new hats".
|by Anonymous||reply 112||06/30/2020|
First case at Equinox Bev Hills - the person who tested positive took a group fitness class and used the stretching mat on the lower floor. Equinox opened about 10 days ago in LA w/ very strict regulations. Bottom line is that unless you enforce masks during heavy exertion (this the time equinox allows you to take off your mask), the money spent on all the bells and whistles to appear overly compliant mean little.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||06/30/2020|
I overheard the front desk guy at my LA Fitness tell someone on the phone that he spends his entire day cancelling memberships and giving refunds since the gym reopened.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||06/30/2020|
A great time to score bargains on gently used gym equipment
|by Anonymous||reply 115||07/01/2020|
Have you noticed the many testosterone-fueled rants from gym owners who are threatening to sue governors for daring to keep their gyms closed because of Covid-related concerns? So many of these meathead owners feels that gyms should be exempt from the rules because....well, they don't really have a good reason, but they're bellowing about it at the top of their lungs.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||07/29/2020|
Sounds like the gay porn industry is about to be overwhelmed by former personal trainers.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||07/29/2020|
My LA Fitness reopened and I was charged my 19.99. I need to go cancel. I was impressed they actually stopped billing during the quarantine without my requesting it.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||07/29/2020|
You mean like these two roided out freakezoids, R116?
|by Anonymous||reply 119||07/29/2020|
Yes, those two idiots are prime examples, R 119.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||07/29/2020|
Guess corporate gyms will die out. The new wave will be small mom & pop gyms followed by home gyms.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||07/29/2020|
Link to reddit thread r98?
|by Anonymous||reply 122||07/29/2020|
"Gyms say they will do X, Y, Z but really only care about getting you a$$ back."
Rental car companies say their going to sanitize cars after every use. Airlines say their going to sanitize planes everyday. Target and Walmart all say their going to clean their stores top to bottom every day.
Guess what? It's all PR bullshit. It would cost money to do all this, and these mother fuckers aren't about to part with a buck just to keep their customers safe.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||07/29/2020|
Gyms will return one day. Most of my bodybuilder friends have bought equipment to work out at home, but they're itching to get back to all of the equipment which helped them develop muscle which can't be conveniently brought inside a home.
I once worked out at a musclehead gym, no air-conditioning, you didn't have to wear a shirt or tank, a big garage door opened up at the back of the building during spring and summer, one single showerhead which was used by multiple men simultaneously. (That wasn't a bad thing.) Bodybuilders will put up with anything as long as they get their workout in. Those gyms will be the first ones to reopen when restrictions are lifted, I'll wager.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||07/29/2020|
I'm a member of Elite in Hell's Kitchen (formerly David Barton's TMPL) which is a top tier club owned by Town Sports International. I pay $130 a month, but they haven't charged my card since April, which was after the gym had already closed. They said they'd give credit for the paid weeks that the gym wasn't open. I've missed going there, but it's not worth getting sick. I've been working out with elastic bands, push up handles, and doing body weight exercises in a park not far from the gym and it's filled with many of the same guys who I'd see at Elite doing the same thing. There's one group of guys that have a full-on weight set up, barbells, dumbells and all kinds of stuff that they pull there in a wagon.
|by Anonymous||reply 125||07/29/2020|
[quote]f gyms disappear, what are the gays going to do?
Punky Brewster's workout video.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||07/29/2020|
Just in from CNN (sorry didn’t see a link): San Diego gym that defied a shutdown order linked to a coronavirus outbreak
|by Anonymous||reply 127||07/31/2020|
Uh oh. This notice was attached to the door of the NY Sports Club on West 73 on the UWS. They haven't paid their rent for the past four months. I wonder how many of their branches in the city will be closed...assuming any of them reopen. I REALLY don't want to switch to Crunch, which is even shittier than NYSC.
|by Anonymous||reply 128||08/25/2020|
That’s my old gym from years ago r128 when I lived in the city. Sad. I took my very first spin class there, ran into Tom Cruise on the corner at Columbus (literally), and had my first instructor crush.
I hope they don’t go under.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||08/25/2020|
Is this the gym you’re talking about r127?
|by Anonymous||reply 130||08/25/2020|
Yeah, lots of small non-corporate private gyms doing lots of shady stuff. I see bros working out on IG in gyms where they aren't even suppose to be opened or before they reopened. Surprised the government doesn't crack down via social media. Lots of people tell on themselves.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||08/25/2020|
Please give reviews or experiences or memories of the Limelight Gym in NYC. I have seen it from the outside but never gone inside nor worked out there. What's it like ? Especially if you frequented the original Limelight club and now have experienced the new gym ? Just asking. ❔
|by Anonymous||reply 132||08/26/2020|
I can't believe it was turned into a gym. How funny. I used to go to the club quite often I think. Never liked it much.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||08/26/2020|
Equinox deserves to for the prices they charged.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||08/26/2020|
r133 - If I could afford it and if there were no pandemic I would give the Limelight gym a try for say a year just for laughs , kicks and memories or ghosts from the old 90's space. I bet the amenities are nice, the restrooms, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 135||08/26/2020|
24 hours gyms need to cleaned more often
|by Anonymous||reply 136||08/27/2020|
NYSC is reopening next week. Although frankly, I don't know how they're going to be able to enforce distancing.
Frankly, I feel like jello.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||08/27/2020|
R137 Did you get a notice from NYSC that they are reopening next week? I didn’t.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||08/28/2020|
It was on their Facebook and webpage.
|by Anonymous||reply 139||08/28/2020|
I was a member of the Limelight. I met a fantastic trainer there that I still use today. It was like any other David Barton gym. Only the hip and beautiful people were there. You did and would do whatever was necessary to get the look and/or look perfect for the photo shoot. Funny... I just ran into the munchkin (David Barton) yesterday.
|by Anonymous||reply 140||08/30/2020|
NYSC must have paid the four months of overdue rent on the West 73 Street location, because that branch was open today.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||09/02/2020|
Went and worked out. I don't know if it was just the first day, but I had to wait on the street for 20 minutes before I could actually go in. Half fo the equipment is either blocked off or unavailable.
Looks like the home equipment was a wise purchase even if by some miracle there is no second wave.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||09/02/2020|
R142 I assume you go to Equinox?
|by Anonymous||reply 143||09/02/2020|
My gym has a Gofundme
I can’t contribute
Too poor and a trainer I had there was a dick to me so...
|by Anonymous||reply 144||09/02/2020|
R132, R133, et al
That old church is landmarked so after Limelight was closed as a club, and area residents saw to it things remained that way, other uses for space had to be found.
First off came a shopping center (2010-2014), but that didn't workout; and folded.
Next came David Barton's gym company (2014 and ongoing) whose original location was several blocks south on Sixth Avenue IIRC.
Am really feeling old now as recall going to David Barton and Suzanne Bartch wedding "party" at Palladium (it was one of her famous signature parties). Also attended another equally grand SB party for birth of their son; who must be well over twenty by now.
|by Anonymous||reply 145||09/02/2020|
No fucking harm.
Perhaps people might know learn to go to their local park put 1 foot in front of the other and jog naturally.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||09/02/2020|
Good!! Now roided-out gym queens can just gag and die while being so out-of-shape.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||09/03/2020|
Bailey Barton is all grown up; not so bad looking either. Far better than his father IMHO
|by Anonymous||reply 148||09/03/2020|
Also considerably taller as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 149||09/03/2020|
[quote] [R142] I assume you go to Equinox
Oh, honey, I’m neither rich nor hot enough did Equinox. I mean, I’m barely NYSC level acceptable. I’m surprised they didn’t encourage me to go to Planet Fitness.
|by Anonymous||reply 150||09/03/2020|
Did David Barton pose nude for any photographers? He seems like he would.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||09/03/2020|
Highly doubt it; even when younger DB wasn't exactly attractive. Just an overbuilt pocket gay of average looks.
Yes, there were all sorts of interview/promotion pictures; but those like cover of HX were more about PR and advertising his business than anything else.
|by Anonymous||reply 152||09/03/2020|
From a NYT 2011 piece
|by Anonymous||reply 153||09/03/2020|
Andersen Cooper once belonged to DB gym, not sure if that still holds.
This is a Daily Fail link, so if directed to a video don't blame me; DF has a thing about DL link backs.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||09/03/2020|
Even NYC's elite, exclusive and restricted private clubs are feeling pain.....
|by Anonymous||reply 155||09/03/2020|
Unbelievable! These gyms are just reopening and are already billing! I was just told by Equinox that members will be billed on the 9th rather than the 23rd.
|by Anonymous||reply 156||09/05/2020|
David Barton's son is a gay people, yes? And David Barton as well, despite the wife?
|by Anonymous||reply 157||09/05/2020|
David Barton was gay when he married Suzanne Bartsch....
She wanted a kid, and he needed money to expand his gym empire...... The marriage didn't last very long IIRC, and both went separate but happy ways. However none of this affected the child who was loved and raised well by both parents.
If Suzanne Bartsch were going to do it all over again today she'd probably join legions of women and just hire a surrogate with a close male friend providing sperm.
|by Anonymous||reply 158||09/05/2020|
From Crain's New York
Members of New York Sports Clubs, the fitness chain that has warned it is close to bankruptcy, woke this week to find that an automated monthly charge for dues has been fully reinstated as the gyms partially reopened.
The club’s owner, Town Sports International, billed its members for full September dues despite the gyms’ limited operating hours and reduced capacity. The charges are drawing ire from some members and facing fresh scrutiny from state Attorney General Letitia James, who in April struck a deal forcing the company to credit thousands of members for the weeks they’d been barred from the facilities during the early stages of the pandemic.
Gov. Andrew Cuomo gave fitness centers in the state the OK to reopen, though locations must limit capacity to 33%, require masks and meet ventilation guidelines. With gym-going hardly back to normal, some NYSC members were surprised to face full dues charges on short notice.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||09/05/2020|
The link doesn’t work because it’s behind a paywall.
|by Anonymous||reply 160||09/05/2020|
No it's not; and some of you old Luddite queens need to up your internet skills.
Every single link inhabitants of DL moan about being behind a paywall (including NYT articles) works fine for myself and many others. So I guess it's just *you* that has issues.
|by Anonymous||reply 161||09/05/2020|
Gyms have no choice but to start billing soon as they can and or even accelerate where possible. They've been shut down for several months and in many states like NY beaten down to stop billing during that period, thus had no income.
Now they are being forced to upgrade ventilation systems and take other measures to be in compliance with rules for reopening, money has to come from somewhere. Am guessing atm fitness club and gym owners get the stink eye when applying for any sort of traditional financing. Many may have gotten PPP loans from SBA, but have blown through that money and still need more.
All this playing out while in background thanks to various covid-19 restrictions most gyms/fitness clubs aren't operating at anywhere near full capacity.
|by Anonymous||reply 162||09/05/2020|
Didn’t these gyms get billions in bailout funds?
|by Anonymous||reply 163||09/05/2020|
Only pool of federal funds for gyms was whatever various owners could get from SBA PPP loan scheme. Individual states may have given some direct assistance (including from their share of funding from first stimulus bill), but other than that don't believe so.
Individual gym/fitness club owners and employees could have gotten UI and that $600 per week if shut down due to covid-19. But obviously large chains like NYSC only employees could get the latter.
There are several small Pilates places and "gyms" located in residential buildings in my area of NYC. Ran into a few owners over past few weeks and they all said got the UI/$600 when state shut them down. Since they don't have employees weren't eligible for PPP loans, and most are now trolling for clients as city has allowed them to reopen.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||09/05/2020|
my credit card on file expired at my gym; I need to check the balance to see what they last charged me. and when.
I'd love to help my neighborhood gym out, but right before the shut down he hired this guy from another gym where I used to go to and he was a complete asshole to me.
There's no way I'd want to help out my current gym. I won't go back to it once there's a vaccine.
|by Anonymous||reply 165||09/06/2020|
NY Sports deserves to go out of business. Shittiest gym in NYC.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||09/06/2020|
[quote] NY Sports deserves to go out of business. Shittiest gym in NYC.
Hey, what about me?!
|by Anonymous||reply 167||09/07/2020|
NYSCs vary wildly. Some of them are nasty like the staff isn't even trying. They have hundreds of people coming through any no one cleaning on weekends? Mountains of used towels everywhere. Don't miss it.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||09/07/2020|
[quote] ... a trainer I had there was a dick to me so...
Oh wait, I read that wrong.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||09/07/2020|
Massive amount of businesses going bankrupt. There, fixed that for you.
|by Anonymous||reply 170||09/07/2020|
David Barton gyms must have been a sensory and olfactory delight to visit. I felt bad when he sold his gyms and then again when they eventually closed, pre-COVID. I thought the gyms would lose their magic without Barton attached to it. Did someone say that the Limelight gym is considered to be a David Barton gym ? I waited on line with him at Whole Foods years ago, I think he is nice.
|by Anonymous||reply 171||09/12/2020|
R169, I had a crush, I admit it. He is deeply closeted I came to discover.
Recipe for disaster.
Alas, he was really good at training me. I was getting biceps and a core.
It really did a number one me.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||09/12/2020|
Don't feel so bad for David Barton, he landed on his feet in a way I suppose.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||09/12/2020|
More with DB
|by Anonymous||reply 174||09/12/2020|
What look would you say DB was going for in that video?
|by Anonymous||reply 175||09/13/2020|
Someone they found next morning in backrooms of Alex in Wonderland when lights were turned on; probably scrapped off the floor.
|by Anonymous||reply 176||09/13/2020|
NYSC parent company has filed for bankruptcy.......
|by Anonymous||reply 177||09/14/2020|
[quote]NYSC parent company has filed for bankruptcy
I don't want people to lose their jobs, but NYSC needs to close. Worse. Gym. Ever!
|by Anonymous||reply 178||09/14/2020|
Crunch might be worse. Although it’s close.
|by Anonymous||reply 179||09/14/2020|
NYSC was expected. The pandemic just have them an excuse. GNC bankrupt and Flywheel declared bankruptcy too.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||09/15/2020|
Equinox has been very quiet. I wonder if members are complaining about the high cost of membership yet lack of a full use of the gym and amenities?
|by Anonymous||reply 181||09/15/2020|
There was a hardcore gym here which went bankrupt in the early 90, so about 20 bodybuilders purchased it to make it their own private gym. I was invited by a friend to come over. All of the guys were barechested. At the end of their workouts, some would drop their shorts and pose in front of the mirror naked. My friend told me they were looking closely at the muscles in their groin, because posing suits were getting smaller and smaller and these muscles would be visible. It wasn't even noticed by the others. Nice dicks on some, balls too, varying size of bushes, from shaved clean for a contest to a Cypriot man who was heavily-forested.
I had to sit down most of the time I was there. I made the mistake of wearing tights. My friend enjoyed the unfolding situation.
|by Anonymous||reply 182||09/15/2020|
R181 Oh, they have been.
|by Anonymous||reply 183||09/15/2020|
R183 here again, after pushing 'Post' too soon.
If you're on the EQX App under Member Communities, there's all sorts of complaining going on-a lot of it rightfully so-and then your usual bitching and moaning that you find anywhere else...
|by Anonymous||reply 184||09/15/2020|
There is no point in going to the gym while you have to wear a mask and can't even take a shower or use the sauna/Jacuzzi, fuck that!
|by Anonymous||reply 185||09/15/2020|
I'm paying $320/month for all access at Equinox. My home gym has a huge pool, jacuzzi, sauna, steam, sundeck, restruarant, and cafe. We were open about 4 weeks in LA before we had the surge and everything closed down. All of the above = cancelled. Although now, if they reopen I might just be desperate enough to pay the fee. I was reading the app as well R184. While it's scaled down, it's still the nicest and cleanest indoor gym experience if that is the route you choose to go. You are paying for it to be spotless now which I guess is the new normal amenities. Clean, socially distant, practically empty space.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||09/15/2020|
I was bullied as a kid in high school during gym class.
I came to LA and joined a gym; some guys were nice, but a few were real assholes.
They're out of luck now.
|by Anonymous||reply 187||09/15/2020|
the whole business model of gyms is to enforce contracts on people who do not come in. Then on the people who do come in, make all the classes and amenities they want cost extra.
Let these businesses go under. Get the equipment if you have space. Something better will come along.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||09/15/2020|
R187 here; I feel badly for the nice guys there.
The jerks are just terrible tho; homophobic, cruel.
|by Anonymous||reply 189||09/15/2020|
A lot of people, myself included, have the gym as a key part of the day. Either before of after work, it's both mental and physical. It can be nice to see acquaintances, etc. Obviously that part of life is on pause for many of us and may be gone. People are willing to pay for amenities. I thought after the first lockdown that people might be more cautious, but as soon as things opened up, people rushed in. I'm just watching and waiting for now. I'm deciding if it's time to spend 2K for a peloton and quitting the gym. I don't think I can do another online yoga or cardio class.
|by Anonymous||reply 190||09/15/2020|
Gyms quickly re opened in the EU with showers and everything with no known cases of transmission.
Exercise is good for the immune system.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||09/15/2020|
NYSC members in New York better check their credit card statements!
|by Anonymous||reply 192||09/15/2020|
This gym in Ohio is open—
|by Anonymous||reply 193||09/15/2020|
Isnt if funny how before the pandemic, the gyms were like "we are super mega successful with hundreds of gyms across the nation" Then the minute they get their memberships on pause (most of which are from people who actually never go) They be like "OMG we need to BK, it's not our fault, we live pay check to pay check and never though about putting those hundreds of millions away in case of an emergency!"
|by Anonymous||reply 194||09/15/2020|
I think it's ironic that a business model that profited from signing up large volumes of people with a monthly charge knowing 80% stop going after the first month but keep paying are now begging those people to come in.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||09/15/2020|
I go to equinox and don’t really care about the amenities that are closed. I pay the extra money because NYSC is so disgustingly dirty and some of the members look like they’re covered in body louse. Home workouts are fine in a pinch, but being in a gym is more motivating and comfortable.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||Last Wednesday at 6:15 AM|
It's like indoor dining--yes it's probably safe and restaurants are limiting capacity but it's just too stressful to be enjoyable right now. Ditto the big globo gyms.
Crossfit, yoga and other boutique type gyms where they can limit classes to less than 10 people, often do them outdoors and don't require a lot of equipment will be okay and also tend to have more dedicated clientele.
As far as at-home, I suspect many Peletons will revert to mostly being used as clothes hangers by the end of the year.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||Last Wednesday at 6:25 AM|
All business going bankrupt need to sue the government that forced their closure.
|by Anonymous||reply 198||Last Wednesday at 6:36 AM|
Sue the government because they closed? That's asinine. This is a PANDEMIC. People are dying. Closing and distancing were the only good options, and many idiots couldn't even do that correctly. Instead, people whose loved ones died should sue the current federal administration and some state govt's for dereliction of duty.
|by Anonymous||reply 199||Last Wednesday at 1:28 PM|
So fucking what R199?
The pandemic did not force the closure the government did. They need to pay.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||Last Wednesday at 1:37 PM|
The "no shower no sink" rule, has nothing to do with Covid Public Health ordinance. You are suppose to wash yourself MORE. They are so cheap and do not want to pay their water bill.
|by Anonymous||reply 201||Last Wednesday at 2:58 PM|
The bathroom sinks are still functional in my NYSC since it reopened. Not the showers, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||Last Wednesday at 4:06 PM|
Totally agree R196. I cannot do another home workout and while I'll miss the amenities, getting a good, relatively safe, clean workout in is a luxury in and of itself.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||Last Wednesday at 7:07 PM|
NYC opens up indoor pools!
|by Anonymous||reply 204||Last Friday at 2:24 PM|
Gyms are disgusting and they attract awful people. Happy with my Peloton and free weights.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||Last Friday at 2:52 PM|
Should I visit my local Crunch? They have been charging me from September 1 after all.....
|by Anonymous||reply 206||Last Saturday at 2:47 PM|