I have never disliked a celeb/public figure as much as I dislike Meghan Markle

She seems harmless. I have no passion for Meghan either way. Granted, I'm not a royal follower so most of whatever is going on goes unnoticed.

Muriel, time to do Primetime and shut these frau threads down.

I am somewhat of a royal follower. I enjoyed the Harry/Megan wedding except for that long-winded Episcopalian priest. I was also heartened that a person of color had joined the royal family. I thought that would bode well for the U.K. However those two really fucked up a good situation. They seem to have the mentalities of spoiled children. I was largely indifferent to her as an individual, but after they fucked things up for themselves I soured on them. Their actions seemed juvenile and selfish.

I agree with R3. I thought her marriage to Prince Harry was a step forward for the British monarchy and society. However, Meghan and Harry have proven to be interested in themselves only, with a very primitive and self-serving notion of what it means to support others. I am stunned by his indifference to what his country has done for him, not to mention what he owes to his father and grandmother.

Meghan Markle Great Again!

When she went to NYC for that over the top bridal shower I know it wouldn't end well.

You don't know her. How can you have such an intense dislike for someone you don't actually know? I do think that speaks to issues within you, OP. Examine those.

What MM whips up in Frauen reminds me of the Aniston/ Angie loons of yore.

R6 - The baby shower was so ill-advised that only someone who already knew she was planning to leave would have countenanced it. The event really was another signpost about into which basket Meghan planned to put her eggs - literally and figuratively.

She really never gave a fine, flying fuck about working for the monarchy that put her on the global map. They knew it, and they still let the UK taxpayers pay for her.

It's a disgrace.

"Extreme narcissism, detachment from reality, a fondness for sycophants and a distrust of truth-tellers, an obsession with how one is publicly portrayed, a hatred of journalists and the temperament of an out-of-control bulldoze . . ."

These characteristics were recently used to describe a politician. They remind me uncannily of Meghan.

The leap out of the BRF on the assumption that the Queen would give them whatever they wanted; the alienation of one of the most famous and influential families on the planet; crude and cynical use of the UK and then Canadian taxpayers whilst knowing they wouldn't stick around; the subsequent failure of grand plans to "take Hollywood" by storm; the ill-advised lawsuits; the Archewell fiasco that is shaping up (the trademark application wasn't even signed); the sycophants who tell them what they want to hear (the now-discarded Jessica Mulroney, Omid Scobie); the ruthless ghosting of anyone no longer useful or no longer on brand . . .

If the shoe fits . . .

I agree with all the above posters, especially R8. This uppity mulatto with her negress mother have soiled the reputation of the BRF and have forever tainted Britain. The BRF must be alert and ready against any assault by coloured people upon their dignity.

Yes, R10 - this stupid black woman with nappy hair thinking that she could outshine the Princesses York, so known for their beauty and style. Why do American Black women behave so atrociously? It upsets the Queen and her beloved son Andrew, who so sadly had his royal duties taken away from him.

Yes, I was so saddened that this coloured woman tried to shame the pride of Little Britain, the York princesses. Never has England been blessed with such beauteous, intelligent and talented princesses. All of Little Britain sing their praises. We all are so happy they get to vacation throughout the year, with a few pauses to greet us. We were filled with joy when we saw photos from one of her most excellent Princesses with Jeffrey Epstein - such a good and loyal friend to Andrew and Fergie, lending them money and such.

Agree R12. While that black strumpet parades herself around Beverly Hills, Prince Andrew and his loving ex wife Fergie continue to grieve for the loss of their most beloved friend, and truly miss the laundered money that he bestowed upon them. The black harlot is responsible for taking away the Swiss Chalet so beloved by the Princesses York. I hope the wonderful husband of the less fat York Princess is able to peddle a lot of tequila so that he can afford to buy his beloved another Swiss chalet for her comfort and well being.

I think we all agree - this narc/uppity woman is a harm to all of us - and our children. That is why we flock to DL to spread the news of this woman's potential to cause harm to the world.

The real question is how do we stop this narc from causing global suffering.

I don't know - but there may be a tree in Alabama with Markle's name on it.

OP, I agree. I’m actually surprised at how much I loathe her.

I could not articulate my feelings better than R3 has.

I don’t dislike her, but do find her irritating. Her ruthless cluelessness— all while she seems to think she’s always the smartest person in the room— is very off-putting.

Also, She seems 100% fake. I don’t think I’ve ever seen her say anything remotely sincere. While royals have to be diplomatic and polite, there’s a way of doing this while still being genuine.

The real mystery is what Harry sees in her. He’s no prize either, but she is unabashedly tacky and pushy. I wouldn’t have guessed he’d go for that.

Americans just don’t know how to do the royal thing.

Anyone see the Page Six STYLE article claiming that Meghan's friendship with Jessica Mulroney was already waning and Meghan was looking for an excuse to ghost - er, I mean, end it?

Excerpt below:

"Meghan Markle’s friendship with Jessica Mulroney was already on the outs before the stylist was criticized last week for her tone-deaf “white privilege” remarks, a source told Page Six.

The pair had been long-term pals since meeting in Canada, with Mulroney, 40, introducing the former “Suits” star, 38, to a swanky Toronto social set.

But despite giving Mulroney’s three kids a starring role in her 2018 Windsor Castle wedding to Britain’s Prince Harry, Markle has increasingly felt that her friend was “benefiting” from her position as royal BFF and stylist, sources say.

The white privilege “row has really given Meghan the excuse she was waiting for to cut Jess off for good,” one source said.

Since the royal wedding, Mulroney has won TV gigs on “Good Morning America” and her own reality show, “I Do, Redo.” She was canned from both shows last week following her racially charged clash with lifestyle blogger Sasha Exeter, with sources saying she wound up in a “flood of tears” after losing her morning show spot, a TV source said.

And while she started off helping Markle pick her clothes, Markle has now forged her own relationships with top design houses such as Givenchy and Stella McCartney.

“I don’t know what the tipping point was, but Jess has been on the outs for some time,” said another source. “Their friendship is definitely not what it was. And really, how can you have such a close friendship when one person is basically making a career out of the friendship?”

As reported, Mulroney is one of baby Archie’s godparents, which will make matters more difficult."

This was undoubtedly leaked by Meghan herself, and represents another instance of her callous ability to use and discard people.

Unfortunately, in this case, the "other people" is someone who helped Meghan up the rungs of the Toronto social set; positioned her to meet Harry; after the marriage helped Meghan smear Kate at every possible opportunity; and was beyond doubt the leader of the PEOPLE Magazine Five whose discussion of Meghan's father's letter will be the centrepiece of the lawsuit against the MoS that Meghan is continuing.

If I were Antony White, QC, I would already be putting out moles to find out if it is true that Meghan has publicly thrown her old friend and son's godparent under the bus.

If it is true, and I were Jessica Mulroney, I'd be calling White right now.

Meghan is a go getter. Life is way too short waiting for handouts from the BRF. Harry is a grown man and will do right for his own family.

You should probably have your brain examined, OP. It's tragic and rather pathetic to have so much emotion over an individual you don't know personally. Get a grip, honey.

Mulroney HAS to have plenty of valuable dirt on Our Meg. She should call up Piers.

How many godparents will Archie have left by his 4th birthday?

[quote] “I don’t know what the tipping point was, but Jess has been on the outs for some time,” said another source.

That's easy. Jessica was having more success in her life than Meghan. She had the ABC morning show gig and her own show in Canada as well.

The fall-out just reeks of typical mean-girl rivalry.

Markle had Jessica Mulroney babysit her child for days I remember, never mind introduce her around in Toronto, which eventually led to her introduction to Harry. God forbid that the relationship was also beneficial to Mulroney....

A bird in the hand...

Even the Telegraph, which isn't a tabloid by any stretch, is carrying the story of how the Archewell trademark application was submitted without being signed, not paying the fee, and for being "too vague".

It's blindingly obvious that they haven't got a plan, or rather, got caught up short by COVID and BLM and realised nobody right now gave fuck all about their list of "causes" and haven't a clue what they want this thing to look like or do. Their announcement that they are going to wait to launch Archewell "at the right time" means as soon as they figure out which way to swing. And by the time they do, if they do, no one will care any longer because like everything else about them, that hot iron is cooling off rapidly. The time to launch the thing was the time they launched its name.

I wonder if they also don't want to launch it before they know the outcome of the lawsuit. Even a 50-50 win won't do much for Meghan's reputation, and where fundraising is concerned, reputation matters a great deal.

They're financially still having the bills paid by Charles, who is probably not nearly as sympathetic as he once was after the Harkle's Fuck You Farewell Performance in March and the nasty shit Meghan has leaked about the BRF, Britain, and Kate since they left.

And, donations are probably nonexistent or much lower than they expected (as COVID probably sucked all the donor power out of the room and made people cautious about parting with money.

As usual, they, which really means Meghan as this is her lifelong M.O., totally fucked up by assuming the world would fall into line and make two boring, self-absorbed, drifting twats King and Queen of Hollywood, just the way they thought the Queen would fall into line and allow them to cherry pick their royal duties, stay on at Frogmore free of charge, keep their feet in the royal gig yet monetise it half way across the world and spend half the year sunning poolside in L.A. whilst the Cambridges, Wessexes, and Cornwalls carried the load at "home".

Irony of ironies: the parent company, Harper's, that is bringing out Scobie's worshipful biography of the Harkles, is a subsidiary of News Corp, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch - who also owns The SUN - you know, one of the four papers (the SUN, the MAIL, the MIRROR, and the EXPRESS) that the Harkles promised never EVER to engage with again or to give any news to or confirm any stories?

I wonder if they knew Murdoch owns one of those as well as, up the line about four steps, the company that owns Harper's of which Dey Street Books is subsidiary?

M.Markle is annoying and self-absorbed, but she must be very needy to behave the way she does. She's annoying, but she's no Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, or Trump. She's just a confused opportunist and mediocre actress who has lots of ambition. I say leave her alone and forget her.

Oh, please, OP! Meghan McCain is a thousand times worse than Meghan Markle.

First up, there us no "h" in Megan. When you find a woman inserting an "h" into the name Megan, you know you have trouble on your hands.

The people who dislike Meghan Markle cannot name one real, true, and proven thing that she has done. They dislike her for one reason and one reason only, but they can't say that out loud so they cling to fiction in order to make it look okay. It's like the people who didn't like Obama who would come up with these wild and unproven stories and theories about things he had done to justify and cover up the real reason they didn't like him.

I see our Klan Grannie Troll is back posting absurdly OTT racist shit in some transparent attempt to get Muriel to shut a thread down because she believes Muriel is too dumb to see through her.

As it happens, pet, I can point to several documented reasons why I dislike Meghan Markle:

She has shit taste in dress and hairdos. That includes her boring, ill-fitted wedding gown, the clothes she was nearly bursting out of (see photos of the back of the dress she wore to the Lion King premiere)

She and Harry tried to shove themselves into the primary lineup in the 50th anniversary of Charles' Investiture, for which there is abundant footage.

The slut walk she evidenced of which there is also plenty of footage when she and Harry were "asked" to leave Charles' birthday Garden Party four days after they were married.

The "Manifesto" she and Harry published against the orders of the Queen laying out Meghan's "I Want To Have My Cake And Eat It Too" demands, which, shock upon shock - the Queen refused to let Meghan (Harry just follows along, we all know that) have.

And, of course, the Mean Girl stunt at Princess Eugenie's wedding, at which Meghan wore a maternity coat although she didn't need one yet so she could trumpet her pregnancy and deflect attention from the bride.

For every one of those, there is photographic and/or print evidence.

Oh, and having Jessica Mulroney, one of the cuntiest cunts who ever lived, married to a barely closeted gay man, and the daughter in law of one of Canada's most hated conservative PMs, is also proof of Meghan's values.

Wait: I forgot the Wimbledon Diva Act. Did anyone ever see Kate Middleton at Wimbledon demanding to have the seats around her empty and her RPs going around to others telling them not to take photos of her?

Wait: I forgot the Mystery Godparents and basically refusing to do the easiest thing in the world to bond with the UK public by doing the traditional short walk to the christening.

All documented and provable pet.

Take your race obsession back to LSA or whatever site it is that you're obsessed with today.

In all fairness, the Wimbledon photo thing makes more sense. I thought the guy was across the court from her. If someone was this close to me, even if I wasn't famous, I'd be like...what are you doing?

Clearing out every seat around her was bitchtastic though.

[quote]The people who dislike Meghan Markle cannot name one real, true, and proven thing that she has done.

There's no point in arguing with a sick mind.

I see the making of a monster of self esteem when she was so lavishly congratulated as a child for writing about a dish detergent commercial which poor old Thomas Markle encouraged her to do. Ever since then, she has been lighting her own farts...

R34 "Ever since then, she has been lighting her own farts..."

LOL. Hasn't ever been better put.

R32, He is 2 rows in front and below her . Nowhere near, but that angle makes it look so. It was Wimbledon that really made me realise what an entitled cow she was.

Better perspective

I will be fatphobic and say she brought her ginormous friend along to make her look less so.

R38 She's the DUFF

That poor man, just getting a picture of Serena and ends up in the newspapers. Who is the bully?

[post redacted because linking to dailymail.co.uk clearly indicates that the poster is either a troll or an idiot (probably both, honestly.) Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

Get her!

Well that explains the Canada move.

r41, Bless her , she is doing a Rita Coolige impression while trying to be BLM

She was so destined to uproot American racism that she spent 7 years in Canada before marrying a lily-white man in a lily-white institution on the other side of the planet. Uh...huh.

R45 - Nailed it.

Her hypocrisy is breathtaking. I'm sure the BRF are kicking themselves for not telling Harry to go marry her in an Elvis Chapel in Las Vegas.

Sure, Meghan: Charles is going to go on supporting you while you become a political "activist" 3,000 miles away.

She thinks she's "destined to fight systemic racism in America?" Uh huh.

She wants to become politician?

Oh you mean now that she realises she'll never get the acting career she's grasping so hard after, she's thinking of another way to get rich and famous?

Bitch, please.

I see our Klan Grannie Troll is also attacking posters on LSA and trying to censor free speech, and despite her assurances on DL that all those people criticising Meghan Markle are "facing legal issues", has in desperation put this up on LSA:

"LAST PLEA: Unpopular Meghan thread is attracting the worst kind - PLEASE REMOVE"

What happened, pet? You threatened them, too, with the Gulag, the FBI, the local Sheriff's office, being accused of hate speech crimes, etc., and no one budged?

You know why? Because some people still believe in free speech and the legality of holding unpopular opinions.

I am sorry to inform you that t's still legal to dislike Meghan Markle, even if her Mum is black. One of the posters wants to know if you promise it's really the last one.

Did you hear the latest from the Daily Mail? Apparently MM thinks she was right to leave the UK because her destiny is to lead the BLM movement in the US.

lol, glomming on to the latest 'cause-du-jour' in a desperate effort to stay relevant

Doesn’t she have a baby to pay attention to?

Wonder if she’s pregnant again yet.

Omg I actually forgot she has a tiny baby at home. They don't seem to act like new parents.

Supposedly what happened at that Garden Party...

How come she is mixed race when Obama is black?

Can’t anyone stop her from writing? She writes so incredibly badly, and insists on authoring every kind of statement, spoken or published. All their former official publications. It is just saw awful and amateur night.

You know, that Garden Party outfit was one of Meghan's nicest. Like so many of her dresses, it didn't quite fit properly across the bosom, but it was appropriate, the right length, a lovely colour on her, unfussy, from the back actually gave her a waist, all the accessories were right, the hat adorable. When I first saw the photos on the day, I thought, ah, she's getting the whole Duchess thing, this is encouraging . . .

And then came the ghastly de la Renta tablecloth dress at the Spender wedding shortly after.

Harry Markle wordpress is claiming that his lengthy explication of the sloppy handling of the Archewell trademark application was copied and pasted word for word by The SUN. It is true that his piece on the absurdly badly handled application appeared first, and if you compare it to The SUN's, it does seem as if whole paragraphs were lifted from Harry Markle's piece.

Mentioning this today because the DM put an "Exclusive" (which is no longer exclusive as the Express has also put it up quickly), Eden Confidential has a piece up claiming that the "ditching" of the Queen's solicitors, Harbottle & Lewis by the Harkles, the firm handling the trademark application (they have an experienced IP arm) is an indication that the pair have no intention of ever rejoining the "Royal Firm".

A new American firm has been retained (where ARE they getting all this money for all these extensive legal fees - I wonder if the JPMorgan event cheque was earmarked for all their legal bills - and, of course, Harry sold his precious heirloom hunting rifles to pay the Mail's costs for the first round of the suit they lost?!) to work on the application, which was sent in unsigned, without the fee, "issues" that included being "too vague" as to intent and purpose of the organisation/foundation, and possible confusion with other similar trademarks (a list of which we once put up here, including that food chain), whatever it is . . .

If this were solely a US application, they would have had nine months to address the issue. But the Harkles submitted it to the international arm, and, therefore, only have three months to answer the four issues raised in the application's rejection.

Which means the Harkles have to come up with what they clearly don't have yet: a solid plan (let alone backing) for what Archewell is supposed to be and do.

Whether or not the Harkles leaked this (it is obvious that they continue to leak stories to the very media outlets they swore never again to engage with), it's also clear that said media outlets now feel they can print anything they like, and then claim that as the Harkles refused to confirm or deny, they went to print anyway. I guess it never occurred to the Harkles that in publicly declaring that they would never engage with those outlets again, they basically gave those outlets a Get Out of Jail Free card for printing erroneous information.

At any rate, one thing in the Eden Confidential piece is probably true: whilst Harry minus Meghan may be a slim possibility, the Harkles as a couple will never rejoin the BRF because Meghan has burnt too many bridges, not just with the BRF but with Britain. She will not return permanently to Britain, she will never again be a working royal, and as long as Harry sticks with his bargain, he won't either.

Can't wait for that year-end review.

Love her!

A seemingly endless parade of self-delusion.

When she first arrived on the scene I thought it was very cool to see a POC joining the BRF, and she seemed pretty, and like a decent sort, and they seemed very much in love. It was really nice to see.

Then, the engagement interview was a bit weird, but she's an actress so it makes sense that when she's being interviewed she would probably revert back a little to how she was trained to do interviews in the past, and that seemed understandable.

Then the wedding, while I didn't like her dress, I thought she looked lovely and I was generally excited about her as the new addition to the BRF.

Then Beatrice's wedding, I thought - I'm sure she didn't mean to do that.

Then the half million dollar NYC babyshower. That raised a serious eyebrow. I thought was genuinely one of the tackiest things I'd ever seen a BRF member ever do.

Then the weirdly forced series of 'mysteries' around the birth, then the godparents, all so unnecessary and completely bizarre, then refusing to show Archie to the taxpayers who funded him was equally unnecessary and bizarre.

THEN Wimbledon, which for me was when I finally thought: ok she's genuinely awful. To displace 80 visitors, many of whom are not rich but won the Wimbledon public lottery for seats and who were probably looking forward to the event for months on end, just so you can sit with your 2 friends? All while you already have access to the Royal Box? I could not imagine doing that. I can't even imagine anyone I know doing that, the selfishness is so off the charts. Then the way she treated that guy taking a picture of himself? Totally insane.

And from there she and Harry have just got worse and worse, with every time they open their mouths they generally drop a clanger of some sort, all while both seeming to seek the limelight while loudly declaring how they want to be private, taking private jets every other week, it seems, while scolding normal people for taking regular airplanes, the ludicroud "Charity" which seems quite obviously to be set up to support the Harkle's lifestyle, the whole nine yards of Total Cringe.

So now I'm just here to watch with popcorn. I don't hate her, but I have never seen a public figure make such an embarrassing spectacle of themselves, over and over and over, as I have with her (and increasingly, with him too). It's a genuinely amazing thing to watch.

[quote]I have never disliked a celeb/public figure as much as I dislike Meghan Markle

Seek therapy. Seriously.

There was apparently a first take of the engagement interview that wasn't nearly as sugary as required and they redid it. Someone on LSA found and put up the first one. The red flags are a good bit more obvious in that first take.

Rumours are about (started by CDAN) that the Harkles changed law firms because they want to sue the BRF, and Harbottle & Lewis is used by the BRF. It turns out that one of the partners, Gerrard Tyrrell (what a name!) has been close to Harry and advised him since Harry was a teen (another one of those "additional Dads").

I think it's bunk, as the law firm replacing Harbottle is Fieldfisher LLP, which is a London-based firm. I cannot imagine a British firm agreeing to represent Harry Windsor in a suit against the Sovereign, so I think this is all bunk.

More likely, this is just more bridge-burning by Meghan, ensuring that every last thread holding Harry to Britain and the BRF is cut.

What is LSA?

Are there any more blind items?

Harry has the angriest, most hateful look in his eyes almost all the time now, ever since he married that bitch. She really stirred him up and did a lot of damage early on.

[quote]I have never disliked a celeb/public figure as much as I dislike Meghan Markle

Step away. She's not worth your time. Seriously. One can and should worry about evil forces in politics who can do concrete harm to us. A scheming B-list actress and her loser prince husband make no difference whatsoever in your life.

I must admit I've spent like an hour altogether reading threads about Markle here and reading some of the Daily Mail stories. At some point I realized I don't really give a fuck about these two and stopped reading anything about them.

R67, they're public figures, and thirsty public figures at that. They're also AMAZING to watch just for the nonstop blunders.

People can pay as much or as little attention to them as they want. It should be expected, under the circumstances, that people will pay them lots of attention just to see how they next haplessly trip over their own huge egos in order to achieve the next unforced-error fuck up.

It's the BEST gossip show on earth at the moment, and this, in case you had not noticed, is a gossip site. Sorry if that's not to your taste. Perhaps scroll on by next time? Just a thought.

Rollo May once said "If will remains protest, it remains forever dependent on what it is protesting against".

Harry reminds me of this. His marriage is founded upon its perfection as a path for his anger, which Meghan probably realised was the path to his heart, no doubt agreeing that he had been ill done by, and together they'd stick it to those that had marred poor Harry Windsor's life. And she could always point to abusive racism on her side to join him in it.

But in truth, neither has suffered much. Harry is a child of immense privilege who received honours and wealth that he never earned. He idealised a mother whom most of the rest of the world knows was no saint. Meghan is no ghetto child suffering want or poverty or obstruction: she grew up middle-class, her indulgent father who spoilt her rotten is a two-time Emmy winning lighting director, she went to nice schools, a very good university, joined a sorority, and set out to conquer show biz, in which, although she had only modest success, she still supported herself in well, enjoyed herself immensely, made friends (mostly white) who helped her, married a man who helped her get that one modestly successful acting job, and when she met Harry was living with another very attractive and successful man. Harry had all the pussy he could handle, a decent military career, and had he been inclined to work hard, could have easily gone to uni himself and gotten a degree in land management, eco-conservation, for which his family would have been cock-a-hoop with approval. He didn't. He left the military, fucked around aimlessly and the blamed his family for having no "role", lost the one woman he probably loved in a spirit besides anger and resentment, and finally ended up with a nearly middle-aged American divorcee who helped him to the satisfaction of fucking over the family that had been trying for years to do something to help him - except, of course, murder his brother and his brother's children so he could be First.

Neither of these two twats, in reality, have much to complain about except in their own minds - they resent not having things that they are either unsuited for or that were unrealistic (particularly in Harry's case). They have lived lives of comfort, had lots of fun, travelled, seen a good bit of the world, lived in homes ranging from nice to quite upscale by the rest of the world's standards, and had access to plenty of resources to shape their lives.

But for Harry, resentment is the motor that keep him going. For Meghan, resentment and protest gives her a hook on which she can now hang the ambitions that didn't quite fulfill their wished for scope in either show biz or royalty.

Unless Harry can move past the anger and resentment rooted in some adolescent warp (remember, this is the boy who at 14, when he well knew better, stripped naked and ran around at his father's 50th birthday party, embarrassing his father and brother and the guests), anger and resentment will remain his emotional anchor, and with it, Meghan Markle, who is nothing if not acute enough to realise it's what keeps them together.

It's really quite sad. And the thing is, people can sense it. No matter how much lipstick Meghan particularly tries to put on this pig, people can sense the bottomless pit of Never Enough and massive entitlement that animates the couple.

And that's why so many people dislike them.

Looking forward to the next calamity!

Well said, R69.

Bravo R69. I like the Harry and Meghan saga because it is an endless soap opera, they make easily avoidable mistakes, and unlike uncle Andrew the pedo, there are no real victims (not counting the British taxpayer). There's no real downside to laughing at Harry and Meg.

r69 has written one of the best DL posts in my long memory of this place.

Well said, r69.

Also, I think someone at either Kensington or Buckingham Palace is using Lady C as a mouthpiece to warn that Meghan's political speeches will result in the couple being cut off in entirety.

Remember, Charles funds these two in totality.

I was genuinely shocked to see this short video. In the Lady C thread I posted in shock, but here I post because I suspect something is genuinely afoot. My guess is that everyone has had enough:

Yes, R74.

I saw that video earlier today.

Quite different from her other videos, I thought.

If she is to be believed here, she is passing on a clear warning to Ginge and Cringe.

Indeed, r75.

My jaw has been thoroughly dropped.

It's clearly a warning, and a serious one at that.

Why on earth would the RF use Lady CC to send a message? They have courtiers and lawyers to do that quietly. She's doing it to drum up interest for the upcoming book, which is outselling Scobie's authorized bio of the Sussexes in pre-orders

I don't dislike Meghan. Would I rather be friends with her or Kate? Kate, obviously. But more entertaining trainwreck? Meghan all the way.

Perhaps because Meghan is made of Tungsten, as Charles said.

She listens to nothing except what her PR or Stans alert her to listen to, in order to fight her pointless battle against....something.

Meanwhile, Lady C. is the one upon whom all Meghan's various guns are trained upon at the moment.

Perhaps the Palace isn't as stupid as you think, r77.

What I dislike about MM is her hubris, her hypocrisy and her artificiality, that she thinks I am stupid enough to believe her insincere, self-serving pronouncements. I find her insulting.

The only other public figure who provoked this kind of reaction in me is Hillary Clinton.

OK, I'll bite. How is it intelligent of the palace to use Lady CC as a mouthpiece? Because she can raise a hullabaloo in a way the palaces can't?

I doubt very much that the Palace is using Lady C as a mouthpiece. Lady C isn't that particular, anyway, about what she writes (witness her book on the Queen Mother which was laughed off the shelves), and has plenty of other sources in her circle. The Palace doesn't leave itself vulnerable to this sort of charge. If anyone has "fed" Lady C anything, it's former staff, like Melissa Tabouti, former "friends" of Harry's, and people in Harry's social circle in England who are as appalled as the rest at his choice of a wife and what she's done to his life and his family.

But what the Palace probably will do is keep absolutely silent on anything nasty Lady C publishes about the Harkles.

I notice that royal biographer Robert Lacey, who wrote the excellent "Majesty" in 1977, is also leaping on the Let's Make Money Off Harry And William Problem bandwagon, and is releasing a book in October on the volatile relationship between the brothers, within a broader framework of the Heir and Spare problem that has plagued hereditary monarchy throughout history.

Lacey is an experienced biographer and quite a few grades above both Lady C and Andrew Morton (never mind Omid Scobie!), so his book is likely to have a bit more depth than either of the two juicy gossip works of the summer.

The silence on Father's Day from them is astounding. Something is definitely going on?

The silence on Father's Day from them is astounding. Something is definitely going on?

Yes! No stupid baby feet pictures.

CDAN has a new blind up today: "The alliterate former actress turned royal has a friend who knows all about the yachting and trolling for rich husbands because she was doing it too. The two are very good friends. Turns out though a divorce is in the works for the friend."

Well, we know who the "alliterate former actress turned royal" is.

The "friend" is Meghan's other water carrier (and possibly one of the PEOPLE Five and/or Mystery Godparents), Misha Nonoo, married within the last two years to Hess Oil heir, Michael Hess, who could buy and sell the Bank of Charles several times over.

The Trouble in Paradise rumours began a few weeks ago, and Nonoo has reportedly headed back to her own home in Greenwich, CT, insurance policy - er, I mean, baby - in tow.

I wonder if Meghan is eyeing Hess and thinking Now's My Chance . . .

The silence from the Harkles on Father's Day is somewhat strange.

The Harkles never miss an opportunity to remind the world of their existence and particularly the existence of Royal in Blood If Not Style of Address Archie.

Something about Harry heading back to the UK and the ignoring of Father's Day (not only Harry's fatherhood, but Harry acknowledging his own father, just as Charles put up photos of himself with both sons) does seem a bit . . . like a signpost of some kind.

We just don't know what kind.

Until I see a photo of Harry in England, it's just a rumor to me.

People of colour acknowledged that white people have been very racist towards Meghan especially the U.K. media.

"ET’s Denny Directo and Melicia Johnson look at the advice Meghan Markle and President Obama gave to a new generation of activists."

Really, comparing Nobel Prize winner, former President, Harvard and Columbia grad Obama to a woman whose achievements include Suits and getting knocked up a famous man.

R89 Former President Obama receiving the Nobel Prize is a joke especially when he was bombing the Middle East. America's destruction of the Middle East lead to the Middle East's hatred of Americans and the West, causing a rise in terrorism as well as a refugee crisis.

R90 and he's still achieved a hell of a lot more in life than Princess Henry.

R91 Yes, more mayhem and murder

"Nonoo has reportedly headed back to her own home in Greenwich, CT"

Damme, I meant Greenwich Village, where Nonoo's rich Dad apparently bought her a spectacular place.

R85

I predict Meghan will be pregnant again within the next two months or so.

Jessica Mulroney's husband, Ben, announced he was resigning his position as Etalk host (Canadian entertainment show). After announcing "I love my wife" (huh?), he said that his 'privilege' was getting in the way and that he was resigning. (huh?). How's that for a 'soft-landing', lol! His wife's reality show got shitcanned last week too.

It's all just too fabulous. Choose your friends wisely.

Why should the husband feel he has to resign over something the wife said, that he didn't even know about?

I miss Thomas Markle and the evil sister. What ever happened to them? They used to give interviews every few weeks and it has been silence for a long time.

R97 - I suspect Sister Sam was paid off.

Thomas Markle, Sr., has to keep his mouth shut on the advice of counsel until the lawsuit his daughter has brought against him via the MoS is concluded.

I'm sure he was told in no uncertain terms to keep shtum until called as a witness.

I can’t believe that Thomas Markle is capable of keeping his mouth shut.

Did they do anything last year for Father's Day? I would think they would avoid it , as it would lead to a million "phone Thomas" type comments on SM.

R99 - Obviously, he can keep his mouth shut, and I don't doubt that the MoS's legal counsel told him in the strongest terms why.

R100 - Yes, the Harkles did put up a Father's Day photo (wasn't that another of the B&W foot/hand efforts?) They also wished William Happy Birthday last year. But then, they were still in England then, and still so far as the public knew, working royals. Not to have wished William Happy Birthday to put out a Father's Day photo would have made them even more vulnerable to serious backlash.

This year, of course, they're out of reach and they figure they don't have to give f.a. about pretending to wish William anything but bubonic plague.

They wished Prince Louis Happy Birthday, but left off the "Prince" part ("If my kid can't be a prince, I'm not going to acknowledge your kid as one - even if he really is") and, of course, the Queen.

But they rather rudely didn't wish Princess Charlotte HB, either.

If Harry thinks William is going to forget snubs to his only daughter, he should think again.

It's likely that Kate and Charlotte have made their feelings about Meghan abundantly clear already.

George's birthday is 23 July. Remains to be seen if the Harkles want to go so far as not to wish the next Heir HB, too, and just have done with it.

Not that the Cambridges would care. The sooner and plainer it is that those bridges are effectively burnt, the less the Cambridges have to pretend.

P.S.: Last year, the Harkles wishes Prince George Happy Birthday without using either his name or title.

They really want to pretend those kids' status is nonexistent.

They'll find out the hard way how real it is as William steps ever further up the road to the throne.

It won't have been lost on the Cambridge kids' granddad, a/k/a the Bank of Charles, either.

After all, Charles has a relationship with those grandchildren - but not with Archie. Meghan saw to that.

Are Archie reveals that he has an American accent, it is curtains for him. It doesn’t matter if he lives in the UK for the rest of his life if he has an American accent. The royals will never, ever accept him.

Could anyone give a link to the first version of the H+M engagement interview.

Yes, please R104.

Always nice to see the unedited version. You know, like in the "Special Features" section of a DVD where they provide the "Alternative Ending".

I would like to see the "Unrevised" version of that interview.

You'll have to go to LSA to find that first interview - they posted it somewhere in their Meghan Markle Unpopular Opinions Part 2 (now up to 4,300 or so pages.

I'll see if I can locate it.

Markle entry on Page Six, NY Post, talking about Lady Colin Campbell’s book, which is apparently legally watertight.

Interesting. Cindy says she knows Campbell and that she has loads of sources high up, all of whom "Were desperate to talk"

Have you seen Meghan and Harry in actual hairnets making food at their latest charitable undertaking. Meghan elbowed her way into the middle of the pictures. She must have such contempt for him secretly: nobody knows better than she what a sucker he is.

Yes and they were both wearing matching Cartier 'love' bracelets. So cringe.

Where is the link R109?

I don't think she's a monster (she mostly means well despite her incredible egotism), but she came to the marriage with very specific goals in mind that it did not give her because she did not do her research very well. She keeps undoing herself.

I don't think she's a monster either, but my opinion of her started out as very high and has steadily gone down, and down, and down.

The same for him. They've each revealed themselves to be awful people in their own ways, and now it's an ongoing dumpster fire I can't look away from.

I think MM is basically an awful person, in the way she treats her family, especially her father and disabled half-sister.

R113 - Nailed it.

R114, I think her father and sister fully deserve their treatment. Their behaviour towards her is awful.

R116 - That would be the father who took care of her in her teens when her mother clearly wasn't interested in doing so (Doria appears to have disappeared as soon as Meghan left childhood, only reappearing suddenly after Meghan met Harry), who ripped apart two doll sets, one black and one white, in a shop to create a mixed race doll family for her, and then busted himself financially to send her to Northwestern without student loans, which she subsequently lied about publicly as she talked about working to put herself through school? The father about whom she had only nice things to say (the sweet photos and social media comments are still available) until about 2016 when she met Harry Windsor and then ghosted Dad, making sure the two never met?

It's likely Thomas Markle, Sr., has a few problems of his own and doesn't handle rejection any better than his spoilt, cynical, cold-blooded daughter does, but his behaviour toward her only became awful once it became clear to the bewildered old git that as soon as she met Harry, she not only no longer needed her father, but that he was more use to her as she built her Poor Meghan narrative to snag Harry.

I don't condone the way he handled his shock and hurt, but she really treated him like garbage after she met Harry.

You guys have literally got to read the Lady Colin Campbell book. It is 400 pages. Do you realize MM tried to frame daddy for child molestation through this book, but Lady Colin didn’t believe it and thought it was despicable. There is lots of analysis here. If you think MM is a piece of shit now, wait until you read the book.

Care to briefly summarize that for us here r118?

I’m gonna read the shit out of that book.

R120 - Ditto. Just arrived in home and about to dive into it with a large gin and tonic at my elbow.

Meanwhile, reports are surfacing that the economic impact of the pandemic has hit the Duchy of Cornwall, whose revenues are where Charles draws the "supplemental income" he gives both sons annually, and which are virtually supporting Meghan and Harry in their "review year". While revenues increased last year from about 20 million per year to 27 million, revenues this year are lower and expected to drop even more next year.

These are, no matter what the law says about the Duchy belonging to the male heir to the throne, at bottom UK public funding. Charles cannot go on supporting two people who gave the UK and the monarchy the finger yet insist upon having their wealthy nonworking royal lifestyle supported by Charles and the Duchy without major backlash.

Charles gives about half the revenues voluntarily to the Treasury in lieu of taxes, and then has to support Highgrove and his other homes and lifestyle, and Willam's and Kate's family, with the rest. But the Cambridges live in the nation's capitayl and are working royals and future King and Queen.

Harry is sixth in line, ditched his country for America, is a nonworking royal, and alienated his brother the future King and sister in law, the future Queen. Harry's wife is allegedly planning to become involved in American leftwing politics.

Britons cannot be expected to support "royals" who no longer feel they have to behave royally.

Harry and Meghan, in their "year-end review" likely face diminished support from the Bank of Dad (unless he dips into his personal fortune) and pressure to, as they say, fish or cut bait.

You can tell that Meghan really has cast out Jessica Mulroney, because now it's Markus Anderson, her makeup artist, who is singing her praises in the Daily Mail and talking about how "she resonates globally".

Because of the way she looks. Which is to say, so un-black looking she could put Caucasian on a CV and hating her natural African-textured hair.

But if Meghan has had to leak to the DM now through Anderson (oh, she will never EVER engage with the DM again - except through second-hand leaks), it means that Mulroney is out of the picture.

Can't wait for the subpoenas to go out as counsel for the MoS start a new phase of digging into the PEOPLE Magazine Five matter - and you have to know Mulroney was the lead on that one.

With Meghan's solicitors releasing the newest papers in her lawsuit last week, filling them with the same gratuitous shit that she included in the initial Complaint with, and that got stricken out as non-responsive to the basis of the lawsuit by the court in the pre-trial hearing in April, as she doggedly continues to try to mount a slander case onto a privacy case, whilst herself slandering the royal family with outright distortions and lies as she does so, disliking Meghan Markle should turn into an Olympic sport.

What beggars description in my view is her willingness to alienate the court (in case Meghan hadn't noticed, it is Her Majesty's Court up there on the wall behind the bench).

And worse,her willingness to make immediately disprovable statements (e.g., comparing a senior working royal to private citizens who happen to be royal, in terms of paid work outside the institution, and the bogus claim her wedding brought 1bn into the public coffer).

Including these in the papers insults the court's intelligence, as it's a given that the Mr Justice Warby does know the difference and so knows that the statements present a totally false equivalency. In insisting on pursuing her vendetta against HM in HM's Court by slinging provably false attacks at them through the papers, Meghan further lessen her credibility on the statements about the PEOPLE Magazine article and her father's letter. Then there was the ming-boggling statement that the UK tabloids had published (wait for it) "hundreds of thousands of untrue stories" about her.

The tabs certainly might have made it up to a few hundred in three years . . . but "hundreds of thousands"??!! Does she think Mr Justice Warby is an idiot?!

Did Sherborne inform his client that all Antony White, QC has to do is suavely point out to the Court 1) the irrelevance of the statements, 2) the false equivalency it tries to draw between the wife of the future King's son and a senior working royal whose primary job is to represent the monarchy, and the ninth in line working for a living who does not represent the monarchy, and 3) the manifestly false numbers she's producing, as a means of eroding the court's belief in her honesty assertions on any other issues?!

I wonder if Meghan already knows her slam dunk case is in jeopardy and now doesn't care, she'll use the case as a forum to vent her insane spite against the family that put her on the map because they didn't wrap her arse in cotton wool and carry it from one room to another for her?

Or else she really is stark raving mad.

Your comment is an affront to mediocre actresses the world over, R28.

R28 - We'd love to forget her but she fucking - won't - let - us!

I miss Jessica on Instagram. I started following her as a goof, but she ended up being rather entertaining. Laying low must be driving her nuts,

Ah, LCC's book on Meghan and Harry has hit the TIMES best-seller lists (UK TIMES, it's not out in America yet) whilst the Scobie fan fiction book on Meghan, ghosted by Meghan, and thus guaranteed to be nothing but a fawning hagiography, has fallen steeply in pre-order sales according to Amazon.

I know our Klan Grannie Troll won't like this news at all.

A check of Amazon UK has LCC's book now listed as:

"#1 Best Seller in Biographies & Memoirs of Royalty"

The Scobie book hasn't even got a "place" on the line mentioned.

Oh, and the Scobie book, which hasn't even been released yet, has already been knocked down in hardcover from £20.00 to £13.60.

[Quote]the false equivalency it tries to draw between the wife of the future King's son and a senior working royal whose primary job is to represent the monarchy, and the ninth in line working for a living who does not represent the monarchy,

It astonishes me that she went after Beatrice and Eugenie, yet it's not surprising. They're not working royals outside of an occasional appearance on behalf of the queen and Andrew foots their security bills. I really haven't heard of them making paid appearances or shilling anything.

Why not Princess Anne's children? They don't have titles as their father refused one for himself. They're also not "working royals" and they really do make a bank. Zara Tindall gets tons of promotional work through her equestrian activities (I can think Rolex and Land Rover ads) and gets over 100K per year from some Thai billionaire to appear at a party or two per year. And Peter Phillips made those recent milk ads and sold his wedding pictures.

Why not go after them? Oh, yeah. Anne is a hardworking, popular member of the RF and Andrew is reviled.

Besides all of this, what does Beatrice and Eugenie supposedly making money have to do with a lawsuit about allegedly violating copyright law?

I'll bet Bea and Eug handed Meghan her ass on a plate when they saw how much she ruined the life of their fun-loving cousin.

Any links to excerpts from LCC's book?

Zara and Harry are said to be "close", and what's more, they aren't HRHs - in fact, they aren't "royal" at all: they are members of the royal family but commoners and private citizens.

But Beatrice and Eugenie ARE HRHs, far higher up in the line of succession, and there has been no love lost between the Yorks and Meghan since Meghan pulled her Mean Girl stunt at Eugenie's wedding in October 2018.

As for Pss. Michael: she wore the blackamoor brooch to the Christmas luncheon the Queen throws every year for staff and family, the first large Windsor event Meghan attended. Equating Pss. Michael with a senior working royal is even more ludicrous than raising the issue of Bea and Eugenie (all three, by the way, pay market rents on their royal residences - the Harkles had Frogmore Cottage rent-free as they were to pay their devoir, as the French say, by working for the taxpayers who paid for the renovations.

So Meghan picked the three people she hates profoundly to work into her story, despite the fact that her point 1) is provably a straw man argument, 2) will get her hands slapped again by the court for doing the same thing she got her hands slapped for doing the first time round, 3) will lessen the credibility of her assertions on matters that do pertain to the basis of her lawsuit, and 4) ensure that her relationship with the royal family is completely turned to ash.

Her impulse to spite, destroy, slash and burn is evidently greater than her sense of self-preservation. And that's how you know she's crazy, and Harry's crazy.

The DM is just mining every recent publication about Meghan to keep nipping at her heels.

Today it's the story of how "sensitive" Poor Meghan was about being #2 after Kate - she really thought she should be able to throw her weight about and order Kate's staff around because Meghan had married the sixth in line.

Of course, anyone else would have realised where she stood before accepting the proposal. Anyone but Meghan, that is.

The shade is darker and deeper than the Amazon rainforest at night.

I tried to watch the Markle let’s destroy the Commonwealth video. She is not well educated. She only has a BA from Northwestern, not fucking Oxford. Are there any political scientists here? Hello? It was nothing but her lighting her own farts as always and mouthing off. Her one gimmick is dissociation while talking. Her videos are turning into pornography.

Harry and Meghan both came off horribly in that video, with Harry displaying Stockholm Syndrome symptoms.

She kept subtly pushing to the side so that she was the central visual focus, and their ignorance of the nature of the modern Commonwealth (which contains nations who were never part of the Empire but asked to join, anyway), and glaring obliviousness to the fact that at least 20 of those countries are run by repressive regimes who outlaw homosexuality and have the death penalty, were cringe-inducing.

They've taken massive criticism for it. What is so strange about them is that they never learn from their mistakes.

In addition, the number of filters they're using in their videos is rendering both somewhat ghostly - they're starting to look like aliens appearing on the Enterprise's viewing screen.

Meghan and Harry just do 'Performative Virtue-Signalling'. They seek out the cameras because it makes them feel important. Once they have the camera focused on them' they have a two-man act called "Performative Virtue-Signalling". The act can be adapted to what ever is the 'cause-du-jour'.