A Clockwork Orange

I had no idea that the guy who played Julian was the body under the costume of Darth Vader!

Mr. Alexander's face (at the 2 min 35 sec mark) always cracks me up.

He's so fucking weird!

Hated the movie and thought the casting was all wrong but loved the play.

No, OP, it’s entirely intentional. Kubrick followed the lead of Anthony Burgess’ novel.

Apparently, the author of the book hated the movie too R3.

But he didn't blame Kubrick.

Novelist's response:

[quote] Burgess had mixed feelings about the film adaptation of his novel, publicly saying he loved Malcolm McDowell and Michael Bates, and the use of music; he praised it as "brilliant", even so brilliant that it might be dangerous. Despite this enthusiasm, he was concerned that it lacked the novel's redemptive final chapter, an absence he blamed upon his American publisher and not Kubrick. All US editions of the novel prior to 1986 omitted the final chapter.

[quote] Kubrick himself called the missing chapter of the book "an extra chapter" and claimed that he had not read the original version until he had virtually finished the screenplay, and that he had never given serious consideration to using it. In Kubrick's opinion – as in the opinion of other readers, including the original American editor – the final chapter was unconvincing and inconsistent with the book.

[quote] Burgess reports in his autobiography You've Had Your Time (1990) that he and Kubrick at first enjoyed a good relationship, each holding similar philosophical and political views and each very interested in literature, cinema, music, and Napoleon Bonaparte. Burgess's novel Napoleon Symphony (1974) was dedicated to Kubrick. Their relationship soured when Kubrick left Burgess to defend the film from accusations of glorifying violence.

[quote] A lapsed Catholic, Burgess tried many times to explain the Christian moral points of the story to outraged Christian organisations and to defend it against newspaper accusations that it supported fascist dogma. He also went to receive awards given to Kubrick on his behalf. Despite the benefits Burgess made from the film, he was in no way involved in the production of the book's adaptation. The only profit he made directly from the film was the initial $500 that was given to him for the rights to the adaptation.

I like it when the prison guard looks up Alex's hole and asks him if he is a homosexual.

Mr. Deltoid was a total creeper.

Originally " a little of the old in/out was easier to see".

I heard Donen speak once and he said Kubrick asked him if he could use the song Singing in the Rain to which Donen said yes. Now Donen despised Kelly but still wouldn't Kubrick had to have gone to MGM? Donen owned the rights neither to the song or the film.

It goes without saying so I'll say it- why did Donen despise Kelly?

This scene is by far, the most bizarre.

I'm sorry, but the "victim" is just way too fucking creepy for the viewer to be able to sympathize with him at all.

That bodyguard with the glasses has a big build. That was NOT common in 1971. In those days everyone was SLIM.

Particularly for British men, R12.

1971 was a time when the Beatles were popular, and young men were skinny and scrawny.

The actor's name is David Prowse, and as mentioned earlier, he was the man under the Darth Vader costume:

[quote] David Prowse MBE (born 1 July 1935) is a retired English bodybuilder, weightlifter and character actor in British film and television. Worldwide, he is best known for physically portraying Darth Vader in the original Star Wars trilogy (with the character's voice being performed by James Earl Jones), and in 2015 starred in a documentary concerning that role, entitled I Am Your Father. Prior to his role as Vader, Prowse had established himself as a prominent figure in British culture as the first Green Cross Code man, a character used in British road safety advertising aimed at children.

For the love of Yoda, put the mask back on!

[quote]Is it strange that I sympathize with the main character Alex

Strange strange or DL strange?

R14, he was pretty hot in ACO - in a Clark Kent / Superman sort of way.

[quote]Apparently, the author of the book hated the movie too [R3]. But he didn't blame Kubrick.

Nonetheless, Burgess and Kubrick were making a similar point which is why in both cases the droogs were were more "relatable" than their victims.

Donen's and Kelly's fraying relationship broke down in the mid 50s while making IAFW. They came to resent each other and their antipathy went on from there as Kelly's star faded and Donen's career took off as a major director by himself. Donen felt Kelly never gave him enough credit when they were working together at MGM while Kelly felt Donen was ungrateful because Gene had brought him to Hollywood after they had worked together on Broadway in Pal Joey. Towards the end of their lives Comden and Green tried to bring them together again when all 4 had dinner but it seems to have been a rather frosty experience. He adored Fred Astaire.

When I heard Donen speak which was at one of those 'an evening with' showings of musical clips from Cover Girl and his MGM musicals he might have mentioned Kelly once which considering how their careers were so intertwined for close to 15 years was to me surprising. It did not help Kelly's huge ego that Donen's small budget insignificant Seven Brides turned into a smash it and Brigadoon which was supposed to be one of the big MGM films of the year turned into a major disappointment when they were released around the same time in '54. Donen glowed when he spoke about SITR and presented Kelly's Singing in the Rain number yet he would not talk about Kelly the individual. And the interviewer never asked him about Kelly. She I assume was warned beforehand. I asked her after if she would have an evening with Cyd and she gave me a pained look and I'm not sure what it meant. I also saw her have evenings with Michael Kidd and Leslie Caron. I missed her evening with the dancers of Jack Coe which I regret.

Jack Cole.

OP, no. I mean, I abhor Alex but by the end, you should be fearing the public institutions even more than you fear Alex.

The book is so much better

Lovely stuff, r18. Please start a Golden Age of Hollywood thread!

Go ahead, OP. Say it,

Orange Lives Matter.

Unless it's a Trump.

Aren't you glad the OP isn't someone you know and that her shelf life is set to expire in 2023?

Bump.

Watching it for like the 20th time on Showtime. I LOVE this movie because it's so fucking weird and I did sympathize with the guy in the wheelchair because he did want to help Alex until he realized who he was.

Did Russ Meyer cast the women?

Very dated film. Rather garish. Black & white would have served it better.

So the author only made $500 for the film? Seems morally wrong.

Although I’m not much of a reader now I was an avid reader as a preteen. Once the hormones kicked in all I cared about was sex but I did read a clockwork orange at 11 years of age.

Much of it went over my head so I reread it at 15 and enjoyed it more.

I think the garish is what adds to it. It's such a ridiculous film that the bright colors makes it great.