Trump at West Point—stroke?

constipation

Hopefully.

Is this why he was in the hospital a month ago?

Ohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohpleaseohplease!

I noticed the way he was standing also. Hoping it's serious and incapacitating. Realistically, it's probably an undergarment that needs changed.

His speech was slurred too. Either a stroke or he’s high as a kite.

I feel bad for the West Point graduates. What a fucking commencement address. They deserved better than this asshole.

Were the cadets wearing masks and social distancing?

SAFFIE, DONNIE NEEDS CHANGING! SAFFIE!

The glass of water thing looks like a stroke to me (and my mother stroked out, I've seen the effects up close).

The stairs thing could also be stroke related--but he's always been afraid of stairs and slopes.

Also nobody has mentioned how ENORMOUS he looks in profile.

But it's all fine, nothing to see here folks. Move along.

Video of him walking VERY CAREFULLY down a ramp

He's at death's door!

Let's hope it's debilitating and/or deadly

Many people. Many, are saying that I gave the best commencement speech they've ever heard. Also, I'm hearing that many in the army are saying they've never had a more robust, manly commander in chief, in the history of this country.

I hope he doesn't die until November 4.

If he had a stroke and had to transfer power (which he wouldn't do involuntarily), Pence would become a very short-serving president. Not to jest, as the same thing could happen to Biden at his age. No one things about veeps until something happens to a president.

(after he is resoundingly defeated, so that we don't have to worry about running against Pence)

The fact that covid hasn't gotten him yet proves there is no God.

(I will retract said statement if he kicks the bucket from a stroke)

Signs of a stroke:

Sudden numbness or weakness in the face, arm, or leg, especially on one side of the body.

Sudden confusion, trouble speaking, or difficulty understanding speech.

Sudden trouble seeing in one or both eyes.

Sudden trouble walking, dizziness, loss of balance, or lack of coordination.

Parkinson's disease, maybe?

Just throwing this out. Tennis or Golfer's elbow? I've had tennis elbow since March and have pain lifting a glass of beer.

I had a sore shoulder and had to lift a glass like that.

Remember his Saturday visit to Walter Reed last fall? For an "unscheduled" checkup? Everyone said heart attack at the time, but I think it was stroke. His eyes have been droopy, his skin blotchy and he has been more off than ever since that day. Of course, the administration lies to us as he thinks he's a dictator, but I think this further proof. He is stroked out and deteriorating.

He's not long for this world!

He's always been afraid of going down steps and ramps - it's not a recent thing.

Watch him walk down the steps. He always leads with his left leg, then pulls the right leg even with the left. He never leads with the right. Not tennis or golfer’s elbow.

Walking down stairs can be difficult when you have 2-inch lifts inside your shoes, and your heels (with or without bone spurs) are slipping out of your shoes.

[quote]You try walking down a ramp wearing a girdle, with lifts in your shoes and high on Adderall & Benzo's while being 100 lbs overweight. - Noel Casler Comedy

@God, don’t tease me!!!!

Any doctors here that could weigh in? Are there any experimental treatments for stroke, like an untested drug? I could see them shooting up Trump with anything to prop up the illusion that he is the alpha male stable genius.

Sounds like he took one Xanax too many

R24 ~ Stormy Daniels

He’s a piece of shit for demanding the West Point Seniors all be flown back to the school, be quarantined for 14 days, and sit for graduation (without any family of friends) just so he can give a fucking speech.

He’s absolute shit

I have no depth perception (no idea why) and I have trouble with going down stairs / slopes or up stairs that you can see out the back of.

I hope he has a brain parasite

He's going to resign because he knows he can't win another election. This is a ploy so he can use his health as a reason.

Ahhh, well that explains the hospital visit.

Get that monstrously obese stroke victim out of the White House!

So ORANGE

[quote] This is a ploy so he can use his health as a reason.

I don't think he's that good of an actor anymore (even though he succeeded at playing a successful businessman on The Apprentice and played the President for a few years).

No video??

"This is a ploy so he can use his health as a reason."

It is a ploy, but not for using health as a reason. He is in fact a demon, and as we all know, demons don't die. They appear to age naturally and then disappear for maybe 50 or 60 years only to return in another form. And then we reelect them.

Right arm? It would be more memorable if it was his left. Oh well..

They need a premise for canceling the rally next week due to low ticket sales.

He is pulling a pop diva moment.

If he did need to resign the Presidency before election day, is it guaranteed the VP choice is bumped up the ticket and is running for President?

I love his profile in the pic on rawstory. He looks like the caricature that he is.

My fingers are crossed

If he's had a stroke, why wouldn't someone on Pence's team leak it?

Jesus, even old Alzheimer addled Reagan wasn't this pathetic.

R43, you're on every thread saying the same thing. There is no shortage of deplorable who will risk life and limb to see him. He is a cult leader.

“Oh well, I didn’t really want to vote for him anyway. I didn’t have a choice.”

I can hear it now.

“Well, he wasn’t my first choice. I wanted to give him a chance but...”

“I believed he would be good for the economy”

WHERE'S THE RECEIPTS?!!

“I thought he was a Christian but I was mislead...”

R11 Where's the walking carefully part?

r26 I noticed the same pattern during his stilted walk towards the photo op in Lafayette: almost dragging one leg, one arm not swinging.

Wave of New Polling Suggests an Erosion of Trump’s Support

R41 are you suggesting he's actually the reincarnation of Hitler?

A stroke would be too good for him, he needs to stand trial for his many crimes and go to prison. And be bankrupted from all of his legal troubles. Once in prison, maybe Vlad will have had enough of him and hire the Aryan Nation to shank Cheetolini in the prison showers.

Oh no, that's just the face he pulls when he realizes he shouldn't have trust that fart. He's in his 70s after all. Thank God, his little secrets are very Dependable.

Not such a big bad tough guy after all.

Why can’t the truly terrible people, like Trump, just drop dead of their own accord. All the benzos and adderol should have gotten him by now. Reagan didn’t have the good taste to die in office either.

R57 Hopefully they're not polls from registered Democrats a là 2016.

If Trump were poisoned and died, and the Secret Service had airtight proof that Melania was responsible, would she ever face charges or would they cover up the crime?

So much for “strong man”

In profile, he reminds me of "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" intros.

Pic at R45: "Donald Trump's Sad, Final Days."

The small steps on the ramp aren't necessarily surprising given that he's very overweight, he has lifts in shoes & he probably has bad knees. But the water glass thing - that's just fucking weird -he's like an alien imitating what humans are supposed to do. His makeup always looks jacked, but (once again), he looked like he applied it himself with a butter knife - in the car on the way to the speech. His speech - well, when he's not talking about himself or LAW & ORDER, he always sounds like the village idiot, so I guess that's not so surprising. But even by Dump standards, he looks fucked up.

I'm not sure if the people who are handling him are really that incompetent or they WANT him to go out in public & look like senile grandpa. Whatever the case, he doesn't look long for this world (let's hope!)

Somewhat off topic...maybe...

I just took a spin through my social media accounts and all of the Bernie Bros I follow are on fire about how Biden was VP but BLM didn't get anything accomplished then.

And, the K-Hive is on fire about how long it is taking Biden to anoint Kamela and how his surrogates are soooo obnoxiously playing games with this Veepstakes.

Both camps are low-key annoying in general, but it is curious to see both of them so lit up at the same time when everyone else is discussing how frail and pathetic Dump looks.

Were there any reaction shots from the audience or cadets? I'm sure the cadets were given strict stone face orders.

Trump's shoes are designed for lifts. His feet look like they're going to pop out. He's too cheap to have custom lift shoes made like Cruise? Did he start to wear them recently with the BMI obesity concerns?

[quote] I feel bad for the West Point graduates. What a fucking commencement address. They deserved better than this asshole.

On the plus side, they'll never forget it.

It might also steel them against possible future Trumps.

About the difficuly lifting the glass - might it be just arthritis or tennis elbow? Didnt it we see before in another viral video?

Wow at this. This will go down as turning point.

Damn, George Conway retweeted this: neurosyphilis.

I doubt its syphyllis. He's wealthy enough to get the best meds. Stroke/old age.

Maybe somebody will push his fat ass over like the cops did to that old protestor in Buffalo. We could stream it live as a fundraiser for the Biden campaign.

Maybe somebody will push his fat ass over like the cops did to that old protestor in Buffalo. We could stream it live as a fundraiser for the Biden campaign.

Anyone who spends their time in a raging apoplectic frenzy as does trump is endangering their health. He's stroke ready, the nasty old fool.

Trump's gravelly whisper makes him sound dumb and dumber.

Frontotemporal dementia. A lot of people have suggested this. It would explain a bunch of things: the way he leans forward, his inability to pronounce words occasionally, balance problems, and so on. Plus of course the way he makes things up when he can't remember them, etc.

Here's just one article about this.

When I saw him years ago at a Tahoe golf tournament he had on a body girdle - that he could barely move in. He couldn't even really swing a golf club. Maybe he is wearing it again? And yes - could see it under his golf clothes. He was just a mogul then but the tournament had lots of well known retired athletes playing. His assistant a woman named Carolyn - she ran his NJ golf course, was on the Apprentice - anyway she played with him and beat him. He fired her on his plane back to NY.

I could die a happy man if the bastard could drop dead, live on camera.

More about frontotemporal dementia. Doesn't this sound like Trump?

"Frontotemporal dementia attacks people in their fifth or sixth decade, just as retirement comes within reach. Doctors believe the disease affects 60,000 people in the United States alone. Neurons in the front and side of the brain wilt, and along with them, images of peacefully growing old fade. Judgment and complex planning yields to chaotic disorganization. Inhibitions give way to impulsivity and hypersexuality, so that longtime faithful partners look to affairs and excessive pornography. Empathy turns to apathy. Obsessions and compulsions erupt. Language can become laborious; the meaning of words and objects can be lost, and fluent speech can dissolve into fragments of sentences with nonsensical grammar. Jarringly, memory remains largely untouched. Since brain areas that dictate personality are often the first to suffer, most people end up on a therapist’s couch long before finding their way to a neurologist."

I have frontotemporal dementia. You have it nailed, R81 and R84. I'll add I have hard time thinking of the right word and spelling it, remembering people's names, remembering things that just happened seconds ago. My disposition can change in a split-second. My emotions are outsized. I am completely uninhibited in social situations. I even have trouble typing. It's progressive, with no drugs or treatment to stop it. I have already made arrangements for the time when I can't manage my life. My doctor says ten years or so.

I'm sorry, r85. Drugs like Excelon or Namenda won't work?

I scrolled through the full NBC News feed of the event, which was more than 2 hours long. Trump had to remain standing for most of those two hours (a quiet fuck-you from the Academy for making everyone return?) and I was surprised that he was able to do it without keeling over. They must have had him pumped up on something to keep his stamina. He was practically catatonic reading his speech - and barely glanced away from the teleprompter to look at the cadets. But being on his feet for two hours may also help explain part of his poor motor coordination going down the ramp afterward. He seemed to be walking more or less normally (for him) at the beginning of the event.

I've tried a lot of medications, R85. Nothing is clear-cut working.

Why was he standing? The Academy didn't provide a chair for the elderly CiC?

I think his whole body seems weak at all points all the time. :(

LOL They made him stand on purpose?

Love it!

Christ, I hope he doesn't die. If he dies in office he'll end up a martyr and have a grave with an eternal flame on it. Please, please, PLEASE let him get defeated in a landslide, get indicted and convicted of something, go to prison, lose his money, and be so exposed for what he is that only the dumbest don't turn on him. I also want him to have chronic diarrhea, which if you believe what some people say is a malady he already has.

What r83 said, and it's for exactly that desire why I never missed one of his moronic appearances at his daily Covid-19 press conferences.

Actually now that I think about it I don't want him to die while in office. That would mean a big state funeral and Pelosi & Schumer would probably have to go even though I'm sure they wouldn't want to. I'd rather him lose the election, live in a misery of lawsuits for a few years and then drop dead after having been pretty much forgotten. Then people the Democrats in Congress could probably say "fuck it I ain't going".

My conservative brother alerted me to a Rasmussen poll that gives trump 40%+ of the African American vote...wtf!??...

No, R92 & R94. Go back and read what R85 wrote if you need proof that we shouldn't risk the unpredictability. The sooner he is away from power the better. Having a state funeral is a small price to pay for being rid of what was already a monster.

Given all the practice we've had with "thoughts and prayers", you'd think we'd be better at it by now.

He’s a lunatic and he can’t handle reality crashing down on him like this.

So much for “High-Energy Donnie.”

To answer my own question about standing for two hours, the CiC usually shakes hands with each new lieutenant. But this year a salute was substituted. Regardless, he had to stand for about a 1000 graduates. I assume he knew from previous years, but he may have forgotten. I wonder if he still would've gone through with it if it was crystal clear this is required.

George Conway would know more private info than any of us. Whatever it is, it brings a smile to my face. Maybe he will fall down on camera like Bob Dole.

Rasmussen is a right-wing pollster, completely unreliable. 538 usually adjusts their polls for accuracy.

#TrumpIsNotWell is the #1 trending topic on Twitter right now. #Parkinson is #10 (as in does Dump have Parkinson’s?)

Has Trump tried ingesting disinfectant? He might just need a good, deep, internal cleaning.

And this fat cunt accused ME of not having the STAMINA to be president?

You all are so mean! At least he didn't have TP stuck to his shoe this time!

Trump and Kim sitting in a tree . . .

He seems like the type who would play off a chancre sore as an ingrown yeti hair. If you don't treat syphilis in a timely fashion it becomes untreatable.

He give me ze clap! I must get penny-sillin shot now! It not good for whore business!

he's a dumb cunt, probably couldn't remember one side from the other

He must have been receiving treatment at some point. He referred to VD as his "personal Vietnam" to Howard Stern, I think it was. Doesn't mean he got treatment when he was banging porn stars in his 60s.

Every few months twitter does this. Trump is demented! He’s got frontal lobe dementia! He’s got Parkinson’s! He’s had a stroke! He’s obviously deteriorated! My mother had dementia was just like him! My dad had a stroke and acted just like him! My aunt had Parkinson’s and he’s just like she was!

And Trump stays the same.

If he was demented in 2017, he’d be speechless by now. If he’d had all the strokes people claim he’s had, he’d be bedridden. If he had Parkinson’s for as long as people say, he’d have noticeable hand tremors by now.

He’s mentally ill. He’s a malignant narcissist, he’s paranoid, he has oppositional defiant disorder. He’s got ADHD. This man operates on pure emotion. He doesn’t use problem solving techniques, he can’t think ahead for 2 days, he can’t make a statement & not contradict himself in the next sentence. He can’t stand still. He can’t stand not being the center of attention. He wants to be in front of a microphone schmoozing his fans, insulting his enemies, calling for chaos & violence.

They’re making him stand still. He won’t stand still. He doesn’t obey other people. He does what he wants. Everybody else has to stand still, but not Trump. Trump has to move in some bizarre way & get attention. He’s afraid of stairs - we’ve seen that before. He doesn’t like people to see him drink. I think he’s afraid he’ll dribble and that’s why he makes a big production about it.

Americans have the attention span of gnats. They forget that they insisted 6 months ago that Trump had a stroke. But since then, he’s the same. He’s always walked like a hulking zombie. Even when he was young he had terrible posture. Trump’s been babbling in sentence fragments for years, yet people swear he’s deteriorated, he’s got dementia, he’s had a stroke because of the way he speaks.

He’s the same, just older. He moves more slowly. But he’s the same slovenly, nasty, uncreative, self centered, defiant asshole he’s always been. He’s probably more physically tired at times, but I think it’s emotional, not physical. He’s not in charge of the narrative. “Bunker Boy” hit a nerve. Demonstrations continue. Covid is attacking red states. Behind the scenes he’s just as evil as ever, punishing African Americans, native Americans, environmentalists, blue state residents, lgbt, poor people, students, worker safety....everything. He’s lining his pockets. He’s pleasing Putin. As far as he’s concerned, he’s still a handsome, brilliant, charismatic, special, superhuman. But the media has won the narrative the last few weeks & it is freaking him out.

I agree with the guy who worked on his show who said “I don’t buy the dementia thing & I think those who claim it may be giving him an alibi he’ll use for his behavior.” A Vinny-the-Chin alibi.

Goingback a couple of years, does anyone else remember this incident at Arlington National Cemetery? It was very odd behavior even for Trump - fidgeting, not knowing/remembering the words to the Star Spangled Banner - just very off.

Trump descended a ramp extremely carefully at the end of his West Point speech today

All evidence being brought up seems pretty borderline to me. His strange gait, forward-leaning posture and fear of stairs are explained by his lifts. The above picture of his foot almost coming out of his shoe because of the lifts is crazy. His hand weakness could be due to an injury. He was apparently golfing relatively recently. He’s had slurred speech periodically since being elected. I’m waiting for something more dramatic.

How to real estate...

I can’t believe he agreed to stand for 2 hours & not be the center of attention. Did they spring it on him?

R114. The nutty part is that Trump was supposed to be talking about police and race, but went on a tangent about veterans healthcare, and then that gibberish came out.

If Trump is incapacitated or leaves office before the election, Pence becomes president. That would certainly impact the election, with 'Never-Trump republicans' and a lot of middle America voting for Pence.

OMG he tweeted about the ramp!

@realDonaldTrump The ramp that I descended after my West Point Commencement speech was very long & steep, had no handrail and, most importantly, was very slippery. The last thing I was going to do is “fall” for the Fake News to have fun with. Final ten feet I ran down to level ground. Momentum!

The ramp was very steep and slippery? Get the fuck out. I suppose when you're wearing lifts in your shoes, which naturally cause you to lean forward even on flat ground, then maneuvering a ramp with a slightly decline must make Trump feel like he was going to topple over.

R118. Trump tweeted about the ramp because video of him teetering down the very easy ramp is all over Twitter.

"Yeah, I don't know either."

He's terrified of photo ops that show him looking clownish, that will go viral and hamper his re-election chances. Must. Be. Re-elected.

That malaria drug was shown in studies to have no positive effect on Covid-19.

You know the Lincoln Project is going to have a new commercial with the ramp incident as the central visual. I hop they use the close up of his feet nearly coming out of his shoes.

Trump needs to get an MRI.

Remember how the right went on and on about Hillary Clinton's health in 2016?

Does the Bunker have a ramp? Asking for a friend.

He posted a defensive tweet about walking down that ramp so you know the criticism got to him.

Trump is tweeting about the ramp. Read the last sentence of his tweet. What a fucking lie! We're watching the goddamn video you piece of shit:

The ramp that I descended after my West Point Commencement speech was very long & steep, had no handrail and, most importantly, was very slippery. The last thing I was going to do is “fall” for the Fake News to have fun with. Final ten feet I ran down to level ground. Momentum!

Trumpty Dumpty had a great fall...

And the water glass was very heavy, twice the weight of a normal water glass, and that's why I had to hoist it up with my other hand, to make sure it didnt fall and break, causing broken glass to hurt one of our troops, which the fake news would love.

He's a drug addict. Has been for decades. Hos mental health is in decline. He says multisylable words like a 1st grader. Something is definitely getting worse

...might be one of the steepest ramps in the history of our country. Many people are saying that not even Evel Knievel would have attempted it as quickly as I did. Sleepy Joe Biden would have skidded down the ramp. My strong heels managed it like a champ. I had bne spurs ya know.

HA HA HA HA HA HA you're so fragile. the whole world knows what it saw, snowflake.

Did you sign his birthday card? HA he has to go to bed pissed on his birthday.

Yet again, this guy has an amazing ability to draw attention to the things that embarrass him the most.

It's a race between Trump and Biden to the nursing home. Whichever one is the least debilitated by election day will probably win.

From Twitter:

Trump: "Final ten feet I ran down to level ground. Momentum!"

DL: Does anyone have a clip of the last 10 feet of him running?

Quick lesson on how to drink water:

Trump the fraud:

How to drink water:

Holy shit, where do we even start with this? The ramp was NOT steep. Trump's security detail wouldn't have allowed the ramp to remain wet. And if Trump was worried about not looking stupid on camera, why would he purposely waddle like a slow motion duck? Donald Trump is not well.

It actually doesn't look so bad. I was hoping for something more dramatic. He is obese and he had to stand for a long time.

#RampGate

Yes, I can run:

Trump making his way down the ramp at West Point:

Breaking News:

Seen at West Point today:

Weather report from West Point: The Hudson Valley was ablaze with sunshine on Saturday. There was no reason for that ramp to be wet. But he wants us to not believe our lying eyes.

r148, except that anyone with eyes can see the photo has been altered to insert the shirt logo.

The water drink-off:

R151. It was a joke, sweetie.

Stop wearing risers if you are worried about falling!

Whoops!

More importantly, we are all ready for your birthday CELEBRATION tomorrow!

If you look real close...he’s actually helping the General down the ramp!!

Anything you say sparky !! I've been hearing from a lot of people that #TrumpIsNotWell. I don't know. But a lot of people are saying #TrumpIsNotWell. I'm hearing this from many, many people that #TrumpIsNotWell. That's just what I've heard

Roll tape.

If Trump has had a stroke, Melania will need to step in and run the White House.

And they probably put that ramp in so that he wouldn't have to go down steps.

George Conway:

Mr. President, thank you for now ensuring that tens of millions more Americans will see the videos of you unsteadily walking on the ramp and lifting a glass of water with two hands, and will wonder what they don’t know about your physical and mental condition. #TrumpIsNotWell

LOL at this video:

Sound on. Theme from "Rocky."

He looks fine!

Howard Fineman on Twitter:

It would be sad and pitiable if any president other than #Trump were tweeting this “explanation” of his gingerly, frightened ramp descent at West Point. But given his habit of cruelly attacking the infirmities of others, he deserves nothing but derision.

Donald Trump has put out an enormous amount of propaganda that he’s in perfect health, and he openly attacks Joe Biden for every sign of weakness.

Karma is a bitch.

To be fair, when you add the angle of the ramp to the angle of the lifts and factor in the bone spur flare up whenever he’s on military ground, his story checks out.

Another video of Donnie making his way down the ramp.

Vote Him Out!

Compare and contrast: Trump speaking during his June 2015 campaign launch speech vs. Trump speaking at West Point today, almost exactly five years later.

HELP, THE GRASS IS WET AND SLOPEY I'M STUCK.

Steep & Slippery. The hallmark of any good wheelchair ramp.

The failing Trump is low energy!

All last week he seemed exhausted, reading from teleprompters. Maybe he's worn-out from doing mock debates with the Joe Biden stand-in.

Winning: We're Number One. U-S-A!!

Reported US coronavirus deaths:

Mar. 13: 49 deaths

Apr. 13: 23,649 deaths

May 13: 84,118 deaths

Jun. 13: 115,402 deaths

Time for him to throw in the towel.

He had a good run. Emperor Palpatine would blush.

But it’s time to put him in a nice comfortable home somewhere “upstate”.

The West Point graduating class had to quarantine for two weeks so a guy who has not been transparent about his health could drink water weird, walk down a ramp tentatively and compose a deeply pathetic tweet.

The death and destruction of it all.

Steep? I don't believe so.

Using an online protractor tool, it looks to me like the ramp is at about an 11 degree downward angle.

Watching Trump’s West Point address, I can see why he’s not going to want any social distancing at his rallies. Absent applause and audience reaction, his set speeches are lifeless. He’s nothing without his crowd.

He’s canceled.

Remember when PM May had to hold Trump's hand when he went up or down stairs. He's had a fear of falling before this.

Turd needs to drink from a beer hat. No lifting of a heavy glass, just make sure the straw is positioned.

For Trump's birthday (June 14):

Every legitimate media organization should report on Trump’s health problems today.

June 14: Trump's birthday and Flag Day

When he finally reached the end of the ramp and then 'ran', he made the same triumphant smirk that he did when he shoved the President of Moldova out of his way.

He will be a huge hit at the retirement home.

One can only hope.

I seem to remember Trump did that weird thing with a water bottle before - perhaps in the last election cycle?

I am elder and sometimes My right arm won't work so I lift it with my right hand. The problem seem to be some muscles in my upper arm, not a stroke.

Get ready to bomb Trump. Pass it on.

Nothing would make @realDonaldTrump angrier, and feel more desperate, than if #TrumpIsNotWell began trending. So please, don’t retweet.

Also, don’t share this today:

It's your birthday Bunker Boy:

Isn't it mean to mock someone who is not well? Trump is the most unwell and I wouldn't want to point that out. It's a quick and perfect unwellness, unlike any unwell person ever before.

Obama Day - Sun June 14

Obama walking down the ramp at West Point:

I have heard some speculation that #trumpisnotwell.

#TrumpsNotWell is already trending. I think it should trend all day... like a birthday gift should.

Can we add #FeebleFortyFive to it?

Wow, R179, that’s a striking contrast. Granted, he seems like he’s on exhilarants in the video from 2015 and benzos in the one from today. But he hasn’t been that “sharp” (or speedy) in ages. I mean, the downturn has been obvious for some time now, but the juxtaposition makes it all the starker.

I hope he will at least live to be 90...and most of it in prison.

How to Juneteenth:

Lindsey Graham: "@JoeBiden is as good a man as God ever created.”

How to water:

And it was heavy water. You know, the stuff they use in nuclear...uh.. things. Very heavy water, the heaviest. A big powerful guy, straight out of central casting, told me, he was amazed, he said Sir how do you even drink that? Only powerful dominating people can drink that.

They gave me a left-handed glass and I’m right-handed.

But I drank two sips very quickly and very powerfully, momentum!

Secret service forgot his sippy cup.

As a joke, the cadets greased the glass.

The glass was very strong and powerful. The heaviest glass you could ever imagine.

But he swallowed the last sip with a tremendous and strong gulp.

And I was not going to drop that glass and have the FAKE NEWS say I have no grip, I have a huge grip. A young cadet said “Sir, I always knew your grip was great” but you won’t hear this from the fake news.

He's been doing it for a while:

This reminds me of all the speculation about Hillary's health before the last election and it did not stop either of her supporters.

#1. Legal Fees:

#2. Legal Fees:

Flag Day

Meet Cheves, an old-school Texas Republican who still believes in the value of limited government and biblical virtue:

"Trump's requirement of unquestioning loyalty is what the old folks used to call idolatry. I don't want anything to do with that ever again."

Seven deadly sins:

The Lincoln Project:

Is the President of the United States physically well?

And my teacher in first grade said I should read with more enthusiasm!

He’s been sedated. Slurring words he doesn’t understand, grabbing onto the podium for dear life, and the applause of about five people. He’s pathetic.

How long until we see Hannity, Laura, Tucker and everyone at Fox and friends drinking this way?

Meh. "He's hopped on Adderall." "He's been sedated!" "They've adjusted his meds."

Just who do you think decides what goes into his pie hole? Himself.

Donald Trump isn't working in collaboration with any Dr. Feelgood. His "Adderall for decades was allergy medicine and COKE." Maybe they've weaned him onto good Adderall. I don't think he would willingly take sedatives.

He's a mess of his own creation.

Overheard on the street: “As long as the protesters are pulling down lifeless offensive decorative objects, maybe they can do something about #Melania.”

[quote]The ramp that I descended after my West Point Commencement speech was very long & steep, had no handrail and, most importantly, was very slippery. The last thing I was going to do is “fall” for the Fake News to have fun with.

West Point certainly let their Commander-In-Chief know exactly how they felt about his Commencement demands. Two hours standing, precarious ramp. Quite the message for their bunker boy.

If he had delighted the world by falling, it wouldn't have been fake news, it would manifestly have been true news. Except for the one exception in his brain of denial.

The ludicrous top-heavy shoe-lifted little-feet picture @ R162 makes Trump look like a fat man trying to get used to artificial legs. Given his ramp issues, these wouldn't be so different to his quasi-normal legs.

He'd definitely pop a Xanax or valium to Elvis himself down from a too jittery high.

West Point did not want him there but he insisted. I guess I never thought what might be done with a ramp.

I can't get over the photos of his shoes. They look like shoes for a clown with deformed heels and ankles.

[quote]But it’s time to put him in a nice comfortable home somewhere “upstate”.

A nice farm in the country?

He looks like a fidgety Mongoloid in that video at R111.

One side is weak, holding a glass with two hands could mean one side is weak, or it could mean his hands are shaking.

I know someone with RA that had both symptoms. They were weak in one leg first (the joint was failing), and when they first came down with it, they had out of control inflammation caused by stress. They had to drink out of a sippy cup until the meds kicked in. It can seem like a stroke because it can come on very suddenly and be very drastic. Obesity can be a contributing factor. It also makes you more susceptible to diseases like Coronavirus. Basically your immune system is shot.

The meds for this are very toxic and can damage the liver. If he’s got that, combined with his Adderall addiction, his organs aren’t going to able to handle all that toxicity at his age.

^ Well, clearly obesity is not an issue here!

Clearly, recent stress isn’t a factor either.

Side effects of years of amphetamine abuse is my guess. Can show up at times Parkinson-like. Maybe he was on uppers and downers. He’s on some strong cocktails, that’s for sure.

R111 Thanks for that clip of Trump singing along to the Star Spangled Banner at Arlington. Priceless! Poor Jim Mattis standing next to him looked embarrassed and in pain.

My father died of dementia. It's not dementia. Dementia patients have an average lifespan of 7 years and it's not a disease that progresses slowly, even with medication. If Trump had dementia then at this point he wouldn't be able to even walk up to a podium and ramble like he does. He'd forget where he is and what he was doing. He'd forget how to get dressed and brush his teeth and even to eat.

Dementia is so much more than being an uncoordinated dumbass.

Your description reminds me of poor James Stockdale -- a war hero who was humiliated as Ross Perot's running mate. That poor man.

Whatever happened to this cute little demon spawn? Love the shirt.

R272 Look at that huge forehead. Must hold a huge brain.

None of the Sunday morning news shows are touching this.

"... or it could mean his hands are shaking."

His hands weren't shaking. He couldn't lift the arm any further, so he used the other arm to push it up.

R272 has that same dead on the inside, useless look that Eric and Don Jr. have.

[quote] The meds for this are very toxic and can damage the liver.

One of the meds for it is hydroxychloroquine

Even as a child Trump didn’t smile.

The only smile he’s capable of is the frog smirk

R270, there are different diseases and conditions that present as dementia though. Strokes can sometimes make people forgetful, for example.

I know someone that took the exact same medication for twenty years. After twenty years, they suddenly started having hallucinations and psychosis. In the fine print on the side effects of that medication, were hallucinations and psychosis. When that happened, I read the side effects for the medication and they had almost all of them, all at once. It’s like the toxicity just built up until the person’s body just broke down over it.

Look at (some of) at the side effects for Adderall:

Hoarseness

trouble sleeping

unusual tiredness or weakness

confusion

difficulty breathing

difficulty with speaking

difficulty with swallowing

dizziness

double vision

faintness

inability to move the arms, legs, or facial muscles

inability to speak

itching, skin rash

large, hive-like swelling on the face, eyelids, lips, tongue, throat, hands, legs, feet, or genitals

loss of bladder control

muscle cramps or stiffness

muscle spasm or jerking of the arms and legs pain or discomfort in the arms, jaw, back, or neck

red skin lesions, often with a purple center

red, irritated eyes

seeing, hearing, or feeling things that are not there

seizures

slow speech

sores, ulcers, or white spots in the mouth or on the lips

sudden loss of consciousness

swelling of the feet or lower legs

tightness in the chest

uncontrolled repeated movements (tics)

uncontrolled vocal outbursts

unusual tiredness or weakness

Less common side effects:

Constipation

decreased interest in sexual intercourse

false or unusual sense of well-being

inability to have or keep an erection

loss in sexual ability, desire, drive, or performance

twitching, twisting, uncontrolled repetitive movements of the tongue, lips, face, arms, or legs

I wonder if Trump had a seizure and that’s why he was rushed to the hospital.

And the thumbs up, teeth baring smile.

Look at how swollen his eyelids are. That’s a symptom of Adderall abuse.

None of them smile.

He's not even presenting as dementia, r279. Dementia is more than dumbassery.

And if you look upthread and read the list of frontotemporal dementia you'll see most of the symtoms (chaotic disorganization, hypersexuality, obsessions/compulsions etc) aren't things that suddenly came on -- they are things that have defined him his entire life.

R118 said it best. He's a malignant narcissist.

Another symptom of Adderall abuse:

“Red skin lesions, often with a purple center,” from the link at R279.

People have speculated a lot about Trump’s various ailments, but if you look at the Adderall side effects, they all fit under that umbrella.

R278 There's the 'what have you got to lose' smile. He's at his most gleeful when he's conning the suckers.

R284 He's also been rumored to have taken Propecia and other hair loss drugs for years too. Those have bad side effects as well.

r165, that's hilarious. There's always a tweet!

It's most likely from all the dope he ingests on a daily basis. He's probably done damage to his brain. Irreversible damage. The old bastard has burned his brain up. At least that's what I hope.

Trump has earned and deserves every syllable of ridicule, speculation about his health, and death wishes sent out into the world, and then some, over how he appeared at that speech.

Good for 'ya, Trump. That what he gets for insisting on giving that speech, ordering those cadets back in person to hear and see him, forcing them to quarantine for 2 weeks, and then having the gigantic nerve to put in a performance that Sominex wishes could be bottled and sold by them.

What. An. Asshole.

I thought these were the feet of Danny DeVito as The Penguin from Batman.

This is the classic smug smile of someone who knows he's incompetent but wants the world to think he's very proud of his own accomplishments. It's a very child like reaction.

I don’t understand the design of shoes pictured in this thread with lifts in them. Yes, the heels are slightly raised, but the sole of the shoe looks super flat. Wouldn’t it be a better design to raise the heel and also give the sole some thickness? Even the sole of a normal men’s dress shoe has at least a quarter of an inch in thickness, but the soles of Trump’s shoes look like they have the thickness of ballet slippers. This higher heel and flat sole also makes Trump look like he’s always tipping forward.

The tipping forward helps him hide his bulbous, protruding, fat belly.

R293 I thought that's what the girdle was for...

R291 That's the look of a child proud that he made a poopy in the toilet, instead of in his diaper!

Good boy, maybe now you can use Huggies Pull-ups!

Dotard.

I can see him dropping out of the race for "health" reasons if he thinks he's going to lose bigly.

He'd never drop out using an excuse that makes him look weak, r297. More likely he'll say that he's needed back at his company.

Expensive shoes have thinner soles, r292.

Why aren't any of the weekend news shows carrying this?

Stroke me, stroke me

There's always a tweet:

[quote]The way President Obama runs down the stairs of Air Force 1, hopping & bobbing all the way, is so inelegant and unpresidential. Do not fall!

[quote]7:23 PM · Apr 22, 2014

Donald J. Trump

If Trump did have a stroke I doubt if we would notice the difference.

He suffers from morbid obesity, it makes basic movements more difficult to achieve.

So he’s just now returning to DC from his big birthday weekendat his golf club and West Point. No Melania in sight anywhere all weekend. His pretty princess Ivanka and her lesbian wife Jared were with him.

Where did Melania spend the weekend? What’s up with that? Seems like a pretty big public FU from vairst leddy.

He could bow out gracefully by saying the Plump Org. took a big hit in the Corona pandemic and he needs to return to the company at once.

He would go out as a legend instead of a whimpering loser in November.

It’s his best bet actually.

As an elder gay who is still fit I can say that for me if I've been hiking and I'm coming back down the trail or down stairs or a ramp I get unsteady more because I'm not trusting my eyes more so than anything to do with the fitness of my legs.

Yes I do wear glasses but I still get cautious because I do know that while I'm fit my body may not take the impact of falling as well as it did when I was young.

With Trump it's because he's fat and his body is mush.

Maybe they are poisoning him.

Biden is showing signs of early onset dementia so either way, we're fucked!

Just waiting for a "planet-killer" size asteroid to crash into the Earth like an Armageddon

Shoe lifts plus too big of a stomach so he can't see his feet. You love to see it.

Why does he wear lifts?

R311, IMO, he wears lifts, in part, because Melania is so tall. Mike Pence is 5'10", so maybe he wants to tower over Pence as well. Plus, just physical advantage. That's why Turd leans forward so much. He should ask Be Best how to walk in heels.

[quote]the soles of Trump’s shoes look like they have the thickness of ballet slippers.

He has the soul of a dancer!

I wonder if part of the problem is that he needs glasses but is too vain to wear them.

Baresday party cost extra. Please to see pre-nup for ditales. Be best!

R309 are you confusing the fact that Biden has had a stutter since childhood with being demented?

[quote]The tipping forward helps him hide his bulbous, protruding, fat belly.

No, it does not.

[quote]Expensive shoes have thinner soles.

He could wear a pair of wingtip shoes. They're dressy and as well as business-like. And they are sturdy enough to keep the orange baboon upright and not look like a hulking, fat, leaning Tower of Pisa.

I once read that Trump wears his long red ties so goddamn long is because he believes long ties are slimming. The proper length of a tie should hit you about mid-belt buckle area...okay, maybe you can go as low as the bottom of the belt buckle, but that's it.

Now, does anyone ever look at Trump and his long (mostly) red ties, and think he looks slim? No. No. NO! This optical illusion he thinks he's creating is a myth and nonexistent.

A lot of people are saying that Dumpy Donald is a very sick, very old man who is also stupid, and a very very VERY bad president.

Sad!

R318, a short tie does make a man look fatter, though. On "The Departed," Alec Baldwin was always wearing a short tie, which emphasized his gut and had a comical effect.

The Leaning Tower of Pizza

How can you tell the difference with him, [R6]?

The only thing i feel sorry about him is that although one day he'll be an ex-predident, he will never be in the followship shown in r233

Several news outlets are saying he was using his other hand to 'steady' the glass. Lies. He had to lift the arm holding the cup up to his mouth.

I’m not liking how, suddenly, W became part of the Pantheon of great presidents.

R325 thank you. He killed millions of people. W belongs in court at The Hague.

I think it's merely a pantheon of living ex-presidents.

Plus, compared to Trump almost any one looks better

NYT: Trump’s Halting Walk Down Ramp Raises New Health Questions

The president also appeared to have trouble raising a glass of water to his mouth during a speech at West Point a day before he turned 74, the oldest a president has been in his first term.

June 14, 2020

President Trump faced new questions about his health on Sunday, after videos emerged of him gingerly walking down a ramp at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point and having trouble bringing a glass of water to his mouth during a speech there.

Mr. Trump — who turned 74 on Sunday, the oldest a U.S. president has been in his first term — was recorded hesitantly descending the ramp one step at a time after he delivered an address to graduating cadets at the New York-based academy on Saturday. The academy’s superintendent, Lt. Gen. Darryl A. Williams, walked alongside him. Mr. Trump sped up slightly for the final three steps, as he got to the bottom.

Another video circulated of Mr. Trump taking a sip of water from a glass tucked inside his lectern on the dais at West Point. Mr. Trump held the glass with his right hand and brought it to his mouth, but appeared to momentarily have trouble lifting his arm farther. He used his left hand to push the bottom of the glass so that it reached his lips.

Mr. Trump posted defensively on Twitter late Saturday night about the video circulating of his walk, and offered a description that did not match the visuals.

“The ramp that I descended after my West Point Commencement speech was very long & steep, had no handrail and, most importantly, was very slippery,” Mr. Trump wrote. “The last thing I was going to do is ‘fall’ for the Fake News to have fun with. Final ten feet I ran down to level ground. Momentum!”

There was no evidence that the ramp was slippery, and the skies were clear during the ceremony.

The videos again raised questions about the health of Mr. Trump, whose advisers have never fully explained his abrupt visit to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center in November, saying at the time only that it was intended to get a jump on his annual physical.

[More at link]:

Dementia

R320. Yes, a short tie can emphasize your gut. But I'm not talking wearing your tie short. I am saying the proper length of the tie should hit mid-belt. Trump said he thinks wearing those foolish red ties extra long makes him look slimmer--and that's just not the case. He looks fat no matter how long his ties are. Plus they look ridiculous at that extra long length.

It certainly drew all the attention from the snoozer of the speech.

I have not seen the tape of the speech, but I read somewhere that he mispronounced the names of Ulysses S Grant and General Douglas MacArthur, how did he pronounce them

I don't know about Grant, but he call MacArthur: "M,Garther" several times.

^^*called

It's like everything he attempts now to normalize himself and his presidency just blows up in his face.

Karma?

The audience kept chanting "Bone Spurs" in a whisper. It unnerved him.

I only saw a tiny segment but he brought up "GINA". The way he stresses the word is always weird to me.

Because it is weird.

r317 - They wouldn't keep him upright with the lifts.

I'm thinking a Dumbo Drop type scenario is in President Plump's future.

Thanks for the laugh, R341!

He's just a fat slab of haggis being pumped full of drugs at this point.

R333, he was probably thinking of himself and was saying, "mah girther".

Because it's always all about him.

CNN:

President Trump's West Point walk sparks questions about his health

Why does he always lean forward??? That is a sign of dementia.

He could live to 150 years old! He's the healthiest president ever!!

STROKE! STROKE!

CNN is playing the clips of him struggling down the ramp over and over. Sanjay Gupta says he should have a “full neurological workup.” Brings up that sudden unexplained trip to Walter Reed last year and Trump’s lack of transparency about his previous physicals. “Wr just don’t know enough about his health.”

Dump’s gonna be pissed.

Hey, Dump, remember when you acted like I was at death's door because I fainted?

What evidence is there that Biden is also in early stages of dementia? I thought the only people pushing that theory were Trump and Faux News. Two bastions of truth and integrity … NOT!

It's projection. Just like everything else Trump says or does.

[quote]The president's doctor who should lose his license

The president's doctor has a license?

Why do we nominate and vote for people who may not be able to handle the position physically? I don't trust the health of Trump or Biden. Why aren't we promoting people who are young and energetic and have a full grasp of current popular culture? I would love to choose between people who aren't over the age of 50. They'll serve us, and they're likely to actively contribute to society for the rest of their lives.

TIA last fall.

R353, because Bernie insisted on running even though he didn’t have a chance in hell, and we had to beat Trump no matter what. The large number of younger people competing were splitting the vote so much, Bernie was only getting about 25% of the vote and he was winning.

But you can’t win with 25% of the vote in the general, and Bernie could not get crossover moderate Republicans that hate Trump. He’s too far left.

Bernie was playing the Ralph Nader in this election. He was bound and determined to act as a spoiler, unable to win himself, and thereby insuring a victory for Trump. But he’s such an egomaniac, he would rather be a losing candidate that only gets 25% of one party’s vote, than unite with the Democratic Party to defeat Trump. So there was only one thing to do.

As you saw, all the younger candidates dropped out right before Super Tuesday. Not because they were broke or nobody liked them, but because the only persons all wings of the party could get behind immediately, with no further campaigning, was Biden. Everyone knows Biden, they know what they’re getting. There was no time to find out if somebody was more viable than Biden, because Bernie was racking up delegates even though he was unelectable. After ST, Bernie would have locked down too many delegates for anyone else to get the number of delegates needed to be nominated. He wouldn’t have won the majority, but he would have won *enough* to be a spoiler.

Bernie is the reason we can’t have somebody younger. Because younger people needed more time to get known, and there was no time to get known. The process had to be over by ST. Bernie would have held his delegates over the head of the eventual winner and forced them against their will to take on a platform that would make the Democratic nominee unelectable. Then Trump would win.

Biden, Obama and others must have quietly talked to the other candidates behind the scenes and got them to drop out. I give them a lot of credit. As soon as they were gone, the moderate votes were all going undivided to Biden, and you see the true numbers of moderates now.

After that night, Biden won every primary by huge numbers, in many cases he got twice the votes as Bernie. Finally Bernie saw he couldn’t win. But not before he drove a lot of good people out of the race and they lost an opportunity for months on the national stage they could have used for 2024.

Bernie and his Bros should have been mature enough to realize the percentage voting against him was much larger than the percentage voting for him, and graciously bowed out. That would have given somebody younger a chance to gain some ground. But what am I saying? That would never happen.

I have always thought Bernie Sanders was a very selfish man. It's his way or the highway. I think Hillary Clinton would have won if Bernie hadn't poisoned her brand. If Biden loses, I am firmly planting the blame on Bernie. We could have found a more healthy candidate over the primary season if Bernie hadn't inserted himself. He isn't even a Democrat. He declares himself independent. How is he helping us?

I hope he retires soon and operates a non-profit. Then he can do everything his way.

Bernie wanted to primary Obama in 2012. It has nothing to do with who the candidate is. Either he thinks people are just dying to vote for him above even a popular candidate like Obama, with no evidence that’s true, or he just wants to be a spoiler.

Considering he went all out in 2016 to support socialist spoiler candidates running against Democrats in local state races (and not a single one of them won), I think he just wants to stop Democrats from winning. Which must mean he wants Republicans to win. He’s got Russian ties that go back many years.

Or he’s grifting for that campaign money...

I want to live long enough to dance on his grave

Why are we talking about Bernie again?

It's almost like some people want to re-ignite the Bernie vs. Hillary/Biden/Democrats feud again....

Bernie just ran his last race, so there's that.

What a pig. Even this Turning Point USA Hitler Youth is disgusted by him.

New from The Lincoln Project:

Why did Trump have a secretive, midnight run to Walter Reed Medical Center? It’s time we talk about it. #TrumpIsNotWell

R363, they’re Trumping back at him!! I love it! Using his own tactics against him.

As political ads go, the "Lincoln Project" ads are very well done. Not only that, but they seem to know how to hit Dump right where it hurts. You know Dump is freaked out about going to the Tulsa (ku klux klan meeting) rally & looking like gimpy Grandpa again.

I will airdrop into the arena in Tulsa. Obama never did that. But I will. I'm the healthiest, most virile and manly president in the history of the world.

They really do, r365. It’s sooooo good.

R365 But his "doctors" will just shoot him up with amphetamines and god knows what else so he can rant and rave for two hours at the rally.

Will he EVER stroke out live on stage??????? I'm tired of waiting.

The Lincoln Project ad at R363 is savage. At least Republicans can fight dirty, the Democrats are unable to get into a street fight with Trump, and are still trying to “go high”. Fuck that shit, time to play dirty Tom Perez!

R369, I actually like the way they’re targeting audiences. If the Democrats didn’t have allies willing to go low, that would be an issue, but with the Lincoln Project doing the dirty work, Biden can stay above the fray and act “presidential”. This is very effective when compared to the baby-in-chief, who is now being attacked on multiple fronts. I bet this is absolutely the strategy.

The Lincoln Project’s new ad—which takes information straight from Bolton’s book—is way better than their ad about his health problems.

When people talk about how much they hate Bolton, how they’re so mad he didn’t testify, and so mad that he’s coming out with this book, I just shake my head. His testimony would not have convinced the necessary number of GOP Senators to convict Trump. No fucking way. The book coming out NOW, with more information about DJT’s corruption and incompetence, will be more effective than any testimony he could’ve given during impeachment. People might have forgotten about it by now.

But his book (plus Trump’s niece’s, plus COVID-19 and the economy and the “race riots”) will be fresh in every voter’s mind on Nov 3.

R362 Never mind that we're in the middle of a pandemic and should be wearing masks and staying socially distant. The old perv was trying to bring her in for a hug and/or kiss but she wasn't having it. Good for her.