Britain is in Meltdown

over what ?

Statues.

Counter-BLM protests.

The yobbos are upset about the statues and they are attacking the police for defending the statues? Thugs.

Similar to the yobbos who are upset about the statues and want to pull them down, R3.

I misread it as Britney is in Meltdown.

will defacing a 120 year old statue of Queen Victoria help anything?

Britain is the land of racial equality! These blacks don't realize how great they have it. It makes me cry when I think of what the protests do to Her Royal Highness. It is so sad that she has to see this.

take your Xanax Midge

I assume all these "history" losers cried when the statues of Lenin and Stalin came down in Eastern Europe in 1990. No? They cheered it? Though so. They can all sit down and shut up.

So, ummm... is this really their fight?

Well, there's no soccer right now so...

I thought the police in Britain don't carry guns?

I understand taking down statues of offensive persons, but as decoration of the urban environment I find statues to be aesthetically interesting. Are they going to remove the pediments, or leave them bare, or use them for new statues of more heroic persons (which will take time for artists to create)?

I hope the guy who called 911 is happy now. He couldn't let Floyd have the lousy carton of cigarettes? Instead he has to start an international incident over it.

R10, you mean BLM in the UK? Yes, they are going through the same racist bs, if not worse.

all these protest round the world, causing death from covid as theyr too close and germy.....ironic......coffin sales spike in them citys.

'A statue being removed from New York's capital city of slave-owning Revolutionary War general Philip Schuyler could end up on display in a town bearing his name. Schuylerville's mayor is lobbying to take possession of the 9½-foot (3-meter) bronze statue after Albany Mayor Kathy Sheehan signed an executive order Thursday to remove it.

Schuyler, who led the Continental Army to victory at the pivotal Battle of Saratoga and later served in the U.S. Senate, is the latest historic figure to face new scrutiny amid protests over racism in policing and wider society in the wake of George Floyd's killing by police.'

There goes Biden's landslide. Sheehan must love Trump.

To be fair BLM UK have pretty much lost their mind in the whole statue thing. Trying to pull down Nelson from Trafalgar Square and complaining about ones of Charles II. I think they just desperately want to be American for some reason.

R18, what they want is to be treated like full blown British citizens rather than 2nd class ones.

What about Cronwell? Regicide, rebel, war criminal, with a statue outside of Westminster.

The only black man who was killed by the UK police last year was the Westminster Bridge jihadi.

None this year.

R21, systemic/institutionalised racism is not purely about murder, but then again I'm talking to a DLer. You may find it difficult to understand

Both US and the UK are coming apart at the seams .... that's what you get when you vote in far-right populist governments.

r22, the UK dictionaries have yet to change the definition of racism from treating a person badly because of their skin colour to Merriam Webster's newly falsified definition of "systemic/ institutionalised", so fuck off.

To put in perspective:

[quote] UK demographics: white 87.2%, black/African/Caribbean/black British 3%, Asian/Asian British: Indian 2.3%, Asian/Asian British: Pakistani 1.9%, mixed 2%, other 3.7%

R24 so you had to go to a dictionary, you couldn't even work it out for yourself? You're hilarious

R24, there is your mate R25, Don't tell me, you go to BNP meetings together....

No, you ignorant cunt. If you read the news perhaps you would know that your pathetic dictionaries in the US will happily change the definitions of words after a single email from a single activist.

The Guardian: "By about 11am several thousand mainly white protesters had gathered, many of them drinking. At points they chanted the name of the far-right figurehead Tommy Robinson, and “Eng-ger-land”."

At least in the US we don't have drunk protesters. OUR right-wing protesters just have assault rifles.

What's “Eng-ger-land”?

Has this been Markle’s plot all along to return as queen?

I'd love to see Markle try, r31.

Crowned?

She'll be charivari'd through the streets alongside Harriet.

Brits always talk shit about America, but they copy everything we do.

A black British friend visiting back in the 90s said “America is racist. End of.” I asked him if the UK wasn’t then how come there were zero people of color in Parliament and in major positions in the economy? And in the US we have black people in the government and most major institutions. That shut him up.

It seems the protesters and police are maintaining roughly 2 metres of social distancing with those metal barriers between them. There’s that.

r20 The statue outside Parliament is due to his role in the growth of Parliamentary democracy, and was paid for by a Jewish peer because Cromwell rescinded the edict of expulsion on the Jews. Its not dedicated to the Cromwell of dead Irish make me horny. But yes BLM do want the one in Manchester and London taken down.

Blacks are only 3% of Britain's population? That is mind-blowing. As someone who's traveled to London many times over 20 years, I can't believe they're only 3%.

Get your filthy wog hands off of We!

Called the melting pot

Plinth on fire!

R37 According to Wikipedia, the Black population in London is 13%. I guess the population in Britain as a whole is 3%. That makes sense as big cities are usually more diverse, and London is the capitol.

*capital

When will Irish Lives Matter arrive to take things into their own hands with the Cromwell statue outside Parliament?

r18 perhaps we could put them in touch with all the DL crowd in love with the royals and they can work out a residence swap.

R39, myth-making and spin

r43 English Lives Matter are already active North of the Border so why not. If SLM or WLM are feeling left out theres a statue of Longshanks in Cumbria.

R19 Maybe they want their pointless destructive actions to reinforce racism so they can live their lives as martyrs.

What do they have to bitch about in Britain? It's not like cops are shooting them.

Now you understand Brexit. Racist dimwitted fucks.

[quote]Now you understand Brexit. Racist dimwitted fucks.

And you clearly don't.

& gosh, all that swearing sure makes you sound butch, gurl.

R50 is late for his Klan rally.

[quote][R50] is late for his Klan rally.

You're a walking cliché.

[quote]Brits always talk shit about America, but they copy everything we do.

You underestimate the intensity of the obsession with America in Britain. Permeates every aspect of life.

George Floyd and the protests have knocked all local news off the headlines to the relief of BoJo and his cronies. Before that, there was something about some advisor who drove with his family to his parents' property during quarantine. Even black Brits copy and try to sound American. It'is now trendy for some Brits to call their cops "the feds". Even though they're not a federation in any way shape or form.

[quote] Even black Brits copy and try to sound American.

No.

But the white kids try to sound like black kids, MLE in London, leading to the demise of the local accent.

Meltdown !

Calm down. A load of ignorant idiots crowed all week that they were going to ‘protect the statues’, turn up en masse with their beer guts and bonehead attitudes, start drinking early, kick off with the police and end up throwing nazi salutes surrounding the statue of Churchill. Couldn’t come up with a better depiction of collective stupidity if you tried. It’s good they were immediately shown up as the thugs they are.But then the footballs not been happening so they miss being able to go to matches and thump each other at the weekends.

As for copying America, it’s true. That began when there were many good things to copy. America led the world culturally, technologically. Even did a good impression of morally. That was then. Now it’s different. Reality tv, crass films for kids, conspiracy theories and lies. Pity.

Brits love Cultural Purification, like the 16th-17th century Iconoclasm that wiped out 99% of British medieval Catholic paintings and sculpture.

how was Churchill racist.

Why do they hate Churchill now?

London loves to fall apart and pick itself up again - the plague, the fire of London, the Blitz...it's its pattern.

R10, unless you think England is a thoroughly just and egalitarian society. Or do Americans have a monopoly on protesting?

R60, we can relate.

A good opportune documentary on BBC2 last night about The Windrush Generation showed Cabinet papers from Churchill's 1951 Government. He kept on raising doubts about the positive effects on society of black folk from the Commonwealth arriving in the UK to, they hoped, better themselves.

This firm view found its way into employment implementations which discriminated against people of colour. There's no way Winston comes out of this well. Beating Hitler remains though quite a plus.

[quote] He kept on raising doubts about the positive effects on society of black folk from the Commonwealth arriving in the UK

Well.... here we are now.

Brits even have to call their gay organization Stonewall because they have nothing of their own. Their chavs even scream “Westside”. lmao

White people love Churchill. His racism is meaningless to them because his hate wasn’t directed at their race.

Support for 'stay' grows.

R6: Ugly, uppity bitch ("we are not amused", "your limbs are showing). Good riddance

Cromwell was horrible for the Irish but oddly tolerant of others like Quakers and Jews.

R61, you have an impenetrable, highly stratified class system, regardless of color right? You need a revolution, but race probably shouldn't be the motivator. I hear there's this whole part of this one island close by you still colonize that's been a bit of an issue for the last 100 years.

As for BLM- Do your cops shoot unarmed black men?

R69, BLM doesn't give a shit about the murder of black men. It says nothing about the thousands of blacks murdered by other blacks every year, nor does it say a damn word about the millions of POC enslaved around the world. BLM is a neo-marxist front. Read its website.

Here's a few things the racist CUNT Churchill said.

Wow - Churchill is one of the reasons we do not live under a Nazi order. Yes, he was racist and somehow blamed for not providing wheat to India in 1942 when it was impossible to do so.

With historical figures, we need to --

** Not judge them by today's values

**Acknowledge the differences between their view and today's

**Not detract from their accomplishments b/c they reflected their culture's prejudices

Fuck you Marie, you are an apologist, I guess since he supposedly save us from the Nazis we should excuse him and his nasty fucking views? Didn't he diddle his niece too? You do know that if Britain had not dragged the US into the war kicking and screaming for the SECOND time, little Britain would be speaking German now. They were about to go down, everyone knows thi,s except the stinking Brits still say it is not true. Fuck them all to hell.

All poor people should be united in bringing down the current status quo regardless of race.

[quote]except the stinking Brits still say it is not true. Fuck them all to hell.

You're pathetic.

I guess you're what's known in the USA as white trash...shrieking and swearing about the Brits all over this site.

STFU You hate the truth, and it makes you feel better to call me White Trash, that's rich for a poor Brit. Go back to your shitty 600 Sq Ft house in little Britain and brush your teeth.

^White trash is back - spewing his bile.

R76 >

Enjoy Brexit my loves! You are going to have to put your mothers out on the street to sell pussy soon so you can eat.

And good luck with Biden, Mary, and your big bright future.

Umm... our British Marxist and American white trash combatants probably have 99.9% matching DNA. Calm down, Marys, and give your cousin a hug.

[quote]You do know that if Britain had not dragged the US into the war kicking and screaming for the SECOND time

R73 proves that we need to reform the education system too. The attack on Pearl Harbour is what got the neutral US into war with the Axis. Fucking moron.

People on social media are calling Keir Starmer disgusting and racist for saying that proposals to defund the police are "nonsense". They don't seem to understand that very, very few people in the UK agree with BLM on that issue. This isn't America, where the police are militarised. Our police are woefully underfunded - in fact, these complaints are coming from the very same Corbynistas who've spent years rightly attacking the Tories for cutting police funding!

Churchill was born in 1874. I don't expect any enlightened opinions about race from anyone of that era. It's ridiculous to expect it.

R63 This woman is the exemplar of the so-called 'Windrush Generation'