Th e movie “10” is on TBS
Watching10 with Dudley Moore, Bo Derek and Julie Andrews and for the life of me I don’t understand what was the appeal of Dudley Moore. He’s not attractive, very hammy as an actor, so what made him such a star? Can anyone explain?
Since I’ve never seen it before, I’m waiting for the famous Bo Derek beach scene, but the movie hasn’t aged very well.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | June 13, 2020 5:31 PM
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Some of his acting in this is hammy but I think it was more of Blake saying "Dudley be funny. Be drunk and hungover as you are stumbling around the hotel."
But the scene at the piano is beautiful. And Dudley was very charming.
I watched this for the first time too and I have to say I thought Brian Dennehy and Dee Wallace were terrific in supporting roles. I found Dennehy so sexy in this. I loved how he got so close and intimate with Moore and Dennehy had such a sexy voice. And Wallace looked radiant. I thought she was way more attractive and interesting than Bo Derek.
Julie gave off major lezzie vibes in this.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | June 11, 2020 7:20 AM
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[quote]and for the life of me I don’t understand what was the appeal of Dudley Moore.
He had a lovely perm in the movie.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 2 | June 11, 2020 7:23 AM
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[quote]but the movie hasn’t aged very well.
Are you kidding? It was awful at the time.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | June 11, 2020 7:23 AM
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[quote]Julie gave off major lezzie vibes in this.
It was supposed to be her chance at being adult and sexy.
She was awful in this.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | June 11, 2020 7:26 AM
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I think Pauline Kael made an observation that in one scene Julie demands to know if she was going to be made love to in a tone that would make the idea seem impossible.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | June 11, 2020 7:29 AM
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Dee Wallace would have been better as Dudley's long-suffering girlfriend.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | June 11, 2020 7:32 AM
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I saw this movie for the first time about around Xmas last year. Horrible. I'm not sure what I was expecting exactly - I remember a lot of talk about both Moore and Bo Derek when I was a very young kid (born in 1980). My father always spoke of her being the most gorgeous woman ever..bla, bla, bla. She is lovely for sure but styled so oddly and her "acting" is atrocious. Dudley is aptly named. I loathe the Arthur movies as well.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | June 11, 2020 7:37 AM
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I seem to recall there is a naked pool party with a lot of unattractive bodies. and Dudley Moore falling down a cliff or something. Blake Edwards loves slapstick.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | June 11, 2020 7:38 AM
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[quote] I seem to recall there is a naked pool party with a lot of unattractive bodies
Only unattractive male bodies. Blake hired various professionals porn stars as many of those party guests. Someday we might hear more about his casting sessions.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 9 | June 11, 2020 7:49 AM
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[quote]Dudley is aptly named. I loathe the Arthur movies as well.
Me too.
Once the Americans imported him he lost the plot.
He was better in English films and TV (even then, not so great)
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 10 | June 11, 2020 7:52 AM
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First movie I walked out on.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | June 11, 2020 8:05 AM
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Moore burst on the American movie scene in a well-received featured role in Foul Play, which was a hit starring Goldie Hawn and Chevy Chase. He then got lucky when he replaced George Segal in "10" at the last minute. It was the surprise hit of the year and made stars out of Moore and Bo Derek. Moore followed that immediately by starring in Arthur, another surprise hit that was even bigger than 10. He received an Oscar nomination for Arthur and was one of the hottest stars in Hollywood.
It was all downhill from there. Moore never had another hit movie and in fact had a long string of box office bombs. His roles included a poorly received sequel to Arthur, and embarrassed himself as an elf in the critically panned Santa Claus movie.
He became ill with a degenerative brain disease and died in New Jersey at age 66 after losing his fortune and fame.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 13 | June 11, 2020 8:17 AM
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'10' is one of my favorite movie. I love everything about it esp the piano comp scene at the Las hadas bar. Beautiful song. Henry Mancini I believe.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | June 11, 2020 8:28 AM
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Sad story, R13. But he was married to Tuesday Weld for awhile, inexplicably. And he was hilarious with Peter Cook in "Beyond The Fringe" and "Bedazzled" and "The Wrong Box".
by Anonymous | reply 15 | June 11, 2020 8:47 AM
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He was also married to the beautiful Suzy Kendall....famous in England in the 60s.
Typical 60s London dolly bird.
(imagine if they tried to use the words dolly bird now)
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 16 | June 11, 2020 8:59 AM
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^^ His early partnership with Cook and those British movies made him popular in the UK. In fact, he received the CBE at Buckingham Palace before he died.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | June 11, 2020 9:01 AM
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A white woman with box braids?
CANCELLED
by Anonymous | reply 19 | June 11, 2020 10:09 AM
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I liked Suzy Kendell. Looking her up she now is 83
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 20 | June 11, 2020 10:38 AM
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I never thought he or Peter Cook were funny. Their comedy was puerile, bitter and nasty.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | June 11, 2020 10:40 AM
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"Micki and Maude" is interesting.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | June 11, 2020 10:48 AM
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OP Funny you starting a thread on 10. I watched again for the first time since its first release two nights ago!
I enjoyed it as much as I did back in 1979 (when I saw it twice at the cinema). Its aged well but is so politically incorrect today. It's basically a comedy about an older guy stalked a young 'virgin'.
Also, wasn't Dudley Moore married to Tuesday Weld at one point - what an odd match.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | June 11, 2020 10:52 AM
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So, r23, it's John Derek pursuing Mary Cathleen "Bo."
by Anonymous | reply 24 | June 11, 2020 11:04 AM
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I saw Foul Play, then 10 , then Arthur and bought into the whole 'Dudley Moore's a star" thing with the rest of America.
Then I saw Six Weeks.
And I was done.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 25 | June 11, 2020 12:41 PM
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Omigod, 10 's on youtube.
Let's all watch it and dissect every little detail - haven't seen it in years.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 26 | June 11, 2020 12:52 PM
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Is Bo Derek still a Rethug?
by Anonymous | reply 27 | June 11, 2020 1:02 PM
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Wasn’t Dudley a wife beater?
by Anonymous | reply 28 | June 11, 2020 1:03 PM
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OP-- are you sure you were watching TBS? Because it was on TCM last night.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | June 11, 2020 1:24 PM
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The only good thing about 10 was the hunky Sam Jones as Bo's husband.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | June 11, 2020 1:26 PM
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[bold]ALERT: Hawt fun gay fact[/bold]- the guy who plays Bo's BF in the movie was in Playgirl.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 31 | June 11, 2020 1:27 PM
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I've never seen "10" but thought "Arthur" was one of the best romantic comedies of all time. John Gielgud was hilarious.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | June 11, 2020 1:29 PM
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I saw Sam Jones in a grocery store near San Diego last year. Decently preserved but strutting around like, "Yeah, I'm famous but keep your distance."
by Anonymous | reply 34 | June 11, 2020 1:43 PM
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I had very low expectations for Arthur but I really liked it. I loved the chemistry between Dudley and Liza. It's also genuinely funny in parts. I'll check out 10 though I should probably keep my expectations very low.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | June 11, 2020 1:51 PM
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R35 Be warned as here is lots of female nudity in 10.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | June 11, 2020 2:02 PM
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R35, my boyfriend and I watched it a few nights ago. It had its moments, but it isn’t very overrated. And Arthur is just obnoxious in his drunk scenes.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | June 11, 2020 2:05 PM
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Dreadful movie. I remember it was one of the biggest hits of 1979. Some woman in our town got the Bo Derek braids (as we called them) and was even in the local paper for it. I was too young to go to R rated movies. I watched it when it came to HBO. My cousin and I were so excited to watch this R rated movie which got tons of press.
We both were disappointed and thought it sucked, because it did. I, too, never got Dudley Moore. I hated Arthur and everything else he was in. I never understood how he became such a big deal. He was one of those actors who the minute they come on the screen, I just felt instant dislike.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | June 11, 2020 3:54 PM
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Dudley's last movie was The Mirror Has Two Faces, which he was fired from because he couldn't remember his lines. Streisand had to call in Austin Pendleton to take over the role.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | June 11, 2020 4:23 PM
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I have fond memories of movies set in 70's LA. 10 was one of them because I heard it was naughty and I snuck in at 15. I loved it.
by Anonymous | reply 40 | June 11, 2020 4:25 PM
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I had totally forgotten Dudley Moore even existed, and he was a huge star when I was a kid.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | June 11, 2020 4:44 PM
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He dated the lovely and tall Susan Anton too.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | June 11, 2020 5:00 PM
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There was a line - cant remember it exactly - Dudley says he's jealous of his gay friends' relationship and his therapist says something like "You've reached the point where you're even jealous of two gays" - implying what a very sad state to be in.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | June 11, 2020 5:03 PM
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Dudley Moore was one of the worst actors ever. I doubt most people even remember him or his movies. Even his most well known movie Arthur sucked.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | June 11, 2020 5:10 PM
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Didn't realize there was so much Dudley hate.
Santa Clause: The Movie was a flop at the time but over the years it's become more respected.
by Anonymous | reply 45 | June 11, 2020 5:18 PM
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[quote] Even his most well known movie Arthur sucked.
& that stupid song's lyrics
Once in your life you find her Someone that turns your heart around And next thing you know you're closing down the town Wake up and it's still with you Even though you left her way across town Wondering to yourself, "Hey, what've I found?"
& especially:
When you get caught between the moon and New York City. I know it's crazy, but it's true
by Anonymous | reply 46 | June 11, 2020 5:18 PM
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Ugh, R46, I like Christophe Cross but that song fucking sucked! I couldn't believe how popular it was. It even went to #1 in the U.S.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | June 11, 2020 5:37 PM
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They also won the Oscar for that shit song.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 48 | June 11, 2020 5:42 PM
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R46, can you believe it took four credited songwriters to come up with that crap?
by Anonymous | reply 50 | June 11, 2020 6:27 PM
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Loved Bette Miller as a presenter. It looked like she ad-libbed most of that. Unlike Oscars now, where everything is scripted and so flat.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | June 11, 2020 9:40 PM
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Blake Edwards did very well in the 70s because there wasn't a lot of slapstick comedy, especially by the 2nd half of the decade. He seemed to really be fulfilling a need there.
Dudley Moore was actually quite good at slapstick comedy, so the movie was pretty popular (just as Edwards's final "Pink Panther movies" starring Peter Sellers, which also rely on slapstick, were very popular). The problem was that unless Moore could do slapstick or play drunk (which he excelled at). he wasn't very appealing, so he didn't keep his stardom going for very long after "10" and "Arthur."
by Anonymous | reply 52 | June 11, 2020 9:46 PM
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I tried to watch Arthur recently. I didn't even make it to Liza.
Dudley Moore was playing intoxicated, managing to be cloying and deathly unfunny despite laughing incessantly at his own jokes. It was fucking intolerable.
by Anonymous | reply 53 | June 11, 2020 10:08 PM
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R9 Oh, my gosh, that picture! It's full of 1970s porn stars - Annette Haven, Serena, Candida Royalle, Jamie Gillis, Blair Harris, Jon Martin, David Morris, Constance Money, Dorothy LeMay...
Blake Edwards had Annette Haven recruit a bunch of her porn star friends to appear in the pool party scene.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | June 12, 2020 2:35 AM
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Well done r54. The only one of those porn extras I could name by sight was Dorothy LeMay.
And I don't believe for a minute Blake and probably Julie didn't sample the merchandise
by Anonymous | reply 55 | June 12, 2020 3:02 AM
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R54 Are they all still alive?
by Anonymous | reply 56 | June 12, 2020 3:02 AM
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[quote]Dudley Moore was playing intoxicated
He wasn’t playing - that was the way he was in real life. Apparently a real asshole.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | June 12, 2020 3:03 AM
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R56 From the people I recognize, the only ones who aren't still alive are Jamie Gillis, David Morris, and Candida Royalle.
And I can't believe Don Calfa is in that picture with them all with his cock hanging out! (Don is dead, by the way).
by Anonymous | reply 58 | June 12, 2020 3:08 AM
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R55 Annette Haven has said only wonderful things about Blake Edwards and Julie Andrews, but I also wonder what may have gone on after the cameras stopped rolling.
by Anonymous | reply 59 | June 12, 2020 3:10 AM
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I liked Dudley in "Arthur" and "Micki and Maude" .... but that's about it.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | June 12, 2020 3:25 AM
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Did Dudley do anal? Apparently he was addicted to sex.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | June 12, 2020 3:34 AM
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Thank you r58 I thought I recognized him but couldn't think of his name. Don Calfa cock out AND coping a feel.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | June 12, 2020 3:49 AM
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Dudley's most likable performance was in Foul Play. I think it was his first big role in an American movie and it made him a star.
by Anonymous | reply 63 | June 12, 2020 4:39 AM
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It was between Bo Derek and Tanya Roberts. They decided to go blonde and the rest is history.
Allegedly, a movie exec said that when Annette Haven was onscreen, the audiences would forget about Bo Derek.
by Anonymous | reply 64 | June 12, 2020 4:43 AM
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I moved into a house that had a vagrant VHS tape on the staircase. No one ever touched it. One night, after wine, I peeled back the cobwebs to revel a copy of Mickey and Maude. I put it back exactly as I had found it. As far as I know, it is there to this day.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | June 12, 2020 4:53 AM
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Wasn't he a very drunk presenter at the Academy Awards? Or maybe it was the Grammies.
I remember him saying something like "Up Where We Belong.... and we all know where that is."
by Anonymous | reply 66 | June 12, 2020 5:03 AM
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"10" was on TCM the other night, so I recorded it and watched it last night. I still think it's a great film - a great time capsule of the late 1970s. It's a little disjointed at times, and Blake Edwards' decision to add a lot of Pink Panther-style slapstick didn't always work, but the script was intelligent and the performances were all excellent. I do agree, though, that Julie Andrews' character was shrill and bitchy and completely unlikeable. A few other observations:
Bo Derek was truly stunning to look at. The first time you see her, when she's in the back of the limo in her wedding dress, she's breathtakingly beautiful. Edwards was right to cast her.
Sam Jones was even more stunning. God, he was beautiful! When he gets on his surfboard and paddles out into the ocean, his butt in his wet swimming trunks looks good enough to eat.
Porn star Annette Haven actually has a speaking part at the end of the movie in the final scene with Don Calfa, as does Constance Money at the beginning.
One of my favorite TV hunks of the 1970s, Doug Sheehan, had a small part as a cop.
The guy who played Robert Webber's boy toy was a hairy hottie. I looked him up online and was surprised to find that he got a law degree from Columbia in 1966 and had been a practicing attorney at the time he made "10." He still has his own practice in New York City and still looks good. He's 79 now!
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 67 | June 12, 2020 12:06 PM
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And to add to my observations from above, I also thought Brian Dennehy as the bartender was sexy as hell. I'd have sat at that bar all night and let him pour me drinks.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | June 12, 2020 12:10 PM
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Interesting story about the terrible song played as Dudley fights to keep a straight face.
The name of the amateur song to which George Webber (Dudley Moore) listens is "I Have an Ear for Love". Writer, producer, and director Blake Edwards told composer Henry Mancini to "Write me a lousy song - I mean, a real stinker".
Mancini once said, "There's no question about it - it's definitely the worst song I have ever written. In fact, every so often, a nightmarish thought runs through my head . . . What - heaven help us - if 'I Have an Ear for Love' becomes a hit?" Ironically though, the song was still featured on the "10" movie soundtrack.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | June 12, 2020 12:35 PM
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R69 I loved that scene and Max Showalter singing that song with such earnest delight while he played his mini Wurlitzer.
by Anonymous | reply 70 | June 12, 2020 1:41 PM
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And Max Showalter was in Niagara (1953) with Marilyn Monroe and beautiful Jean Peters! A great pseudo-noir film...altho Marilyn is highly colourful as always.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 71 | June 12, 2020 9:31 PM
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I loved Niagara. Marilyn was sexy and sinister in that one.
My favorite from Max Showalter, though, was his turn as Grandpa Fred in Sixteen Candles.
by Anonymous | reply 72 | June 12, 2020 9:38 PM
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Overall, I thought "10" was hit or miss funny, like Edwards' follow-up, "S.O.B." (1981), which really fizzled at the box office. As others have said, Moore's rising star, and brilliant marketing using Derek, made "10" a smash.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | June 13, 2020 12:06 AM
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Max Showalter was also the original Ward Cleaver.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 74 | June 13, 2020 1:46 AM
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The original New York Times review included an decent amount of praise for Deborah Rush as the not-quite hygienist employed by Bo's dad.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 75 | June 13, 2020 2:22 AM
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I watched it last night (I posted the link to it on youtube) and was surprised how much I liked it. Once it gets to just Dudley and Bo it totally fizzles though.
But the opening is great with that long scene with Dudley and Julie in bed arguing about the word 'broad'. Really funny. I enjoyed the bits with the neighbor and his porn parties, and Webber as his gay writing partner and his boy toy, then the singing minister who beats the dog when the old lady server farts.
And Dee Wallace was wonderful.
I still like S.O.B. better (LOVE that one), but surprised how well this held up. Liked it more now than I did all those years ago seeing it in the theater as a teenager.
by Anonymous | reply 76 | June 13, 2020 2:37 AM
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I always associate 10 with Serial for some reason - from the same era.
Enjoy both.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 77 | June 13, 2020 2:42 AM
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"Serial" was such a good book ... or series of articles, I guess. The movie did not do it justice. It was very much in the vein of Tales of the City.
by Anonymous | reply 78 | June 13, 2020 4:00 AM
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Dee Wallace is also a medium, which was brand new info for me when I stumbled on this video. Scrub to abt 5 mins in to skip the boring interview preamble.
Offsite Linkby Anonymous | reply 79 | June 13, 2020 4:56 AM
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I can see that, R77. Both (in my opinion) have kind of a "is there something I'm missing?" attitude toward modern lifestyles.
by Anonymous | reply 80 | June 13, 2020 5:31 PM
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