Bon Appétit editor-in-chief Adam Rapoport called to resign over brownface photo

Wife?

Wife?

Brownface?

Damn. He turned that magazine AROUND. Now what?

I discovered the Bon Appetit YouTube videos in quarantine. Any time that guy appeared in one you could feel the skeeviness coming through the screen. While I like the personalities in the test kitchen it looks like a very clique-y place to work.

At first I was mad at this guy, but then I saw all the tweets from the little cunts who work at the magazine. You would think he just murdered someone. This one guy who worked at the magazine carried on and on and ON.

This was almost 10 years ago. Yes, it was a stupid thing to do. But in the grand scheme of things, people need to let this petty stupidity go.

The same with that Lea Michelle. I never watched the show, but I always heard she was a cunt. That was 10 years ago. No one spoke up then. Let it go. There's no crime in being a bitch. If there were, I'd be serving 2 life sentences. i don't think she was a racist. She was just a cunt, to everyone. If they have a problem with her, it should be for being a bitch. Not a racist. She's not a racist

This cancel culture is surefire way to lose respect from people in the fight for black people. No one's perfect. If you cast out everyone who has ever done anything wrong, you won't have anyone on your side. And it's white people doing this (casting out). Black people need our help. This is not helping them

So does Eddie Murphy get fired from his latest project because of an old whiteface skit? No.

R6, you still don’t get it? Jesus Christ.

Sorry, R5. Some white people have to goin order to change the culture in some of these places. Sounds like there have been multiple problems at Bon Appetit, so the editor rightly gets the blame.

Frankly, I’m more tired of people who complain about the cancel culture.

I agree with r8. I think they use these instances of questionable tweets and photos to have an excuse to be rid of people that create and thrive on a toxic workplace.

I like the bon appétit YouTube channel.

R8, it sounds like you see creating a culture of fear as the answer to racism. I suppose that could possibly be true, but it sounds like the flip side of Donald Trump’s approach. Do you have evidence that making an example will change the culture? For #MeToo, many women feel it backfired because men were too afraid to deal with them.

R4, I watch the Bon Appetit YouTube videos as well.

[quote] Bon Appétit staff member Sohla El-Waylly revealed via Instagram that "only white editors" are compensated for the videos published on the platform.

Seems like what Sohla said is true because of this:

[quote] Matt Duckor, Condé Nast's head of programming, lifestyle and style, announced via Twitter that from this day forward "everyone appearing on camera be compensated accordingly for their work immediately." He apologized for contributing to the "flawed system" that contributed to the pay disparities.

Sohla said she makes $50K as an assistant editor of BA. I realize that's nothing to sneeze at, but when you watch the videos, that test kitchen is obviously uber-expensive. Sohla said she had asked for $65K (I read that somewhere else) and BA said no. $15K, for BA, sounds like less than a drop in the bucket.

Those people in the YouTube videos are constantly churning out videos, they're filmed at home in their own kitchens now (because of Covid). For $50K? Those videos are smoke and mirrors. Wow. I always wondered what the dynamics were really like.

The photo is stupid but it happened a long time ago, ok. But the fact that only white editors got paid for the BA videos is wild and not acceptable.

Even more shocking, r1: Chris Morocco is not gay.

That really is shocking that Chris Morocco isn’t gay.

Brad is an irritating doofus on camera.

Good. Tear it all down and burn it.

I don't want to "tear it all down and burn it." I rediscovered BA at the beginning of Pandemica, r17, and I liked it, for the first time since the mid-'80s.

Chris Morocco is the most irritating one, IMO. He says “like” way too often. He also does upspeak. He sounds like a valley girl.

Gawd, I am SO fucking glad I never went on social media!

It seems so fucking toxic, inheriently so. If people on there aren't striving to make each other jealous, they're trying to assemble twitter mobs to hound people for trivial actions. Fuck that, fuck all of it RIGHT IN THE ASS!!!

[quote] Frankly, I’m more tired of people who complain about the cancel culture

I felt the same way, but it's every single day now. It's going to backfire. You can't cancel everyone

We have the police beating people who are peacefully protesting and this guy is getting slammed over brownface. White people, you are going to make much harder for black people

This is the offending pic.

They should be paying me to watch Gabby.

Hair transplant

I kept MY job.

What's novel about accepting a job paying $50k per year and then complaining about only getting $50k per year? Everybody has been there. What ever Sohla El-Waylly is doing at Bon Appetit is undoubtedly easier than being a line cook in a restaurant and with better hours and benefits. Unless she was called in on a Saturday to record a video, she was already there and already getting paid.

She is new there, employed by Bon Appetit for only 10 months. And she's already on camera. That face time on camera is hugely valuable. She has a few B.A. videos on YouTube and most have a million hits or more. So had anyone heard of her before she got the gig at Bon Appetit? And now she's a YouTube personality. This woman sounds like a real pain in the ass. A short-sighted pain in the ass who just killed the goose that laid for her a golden egg. Would she be happier if she had not been invited to do the videos? Of course not. First she got the gig at B.A. Then she got on camera. Then she amassed a large number of hits. (But not as many as some of the other chefs working in this project.) Then she should build on that and negotiate for better compensation. Instead, she went fully venomous on social media and demanded the Editor resign.

And now Rapaport has resigned. That is not going to win her much of a raise at this current job. And she'll never get another job anywhere doing anything.

The staff is mostly white with their favorite honorary white people, Asians.

. How is this different from Justin Trudeau wearing blackface year ago? He survived that handily. There must be other reasons to get rid of this guy. If not, wouldn't a simple apology do? Cancel culture sometimes makes sense and other times seems to function exactly like a lynch mob or the witch hunts of the past.

Because Justin Trudeau is the exemplar of a SJW virtue signaler

Sohla is in almost every BA video that’s been released in the past year, either making food or rescuing one of her coworkers when they mess up something like tempering chocolate. She’s a constant presence-she’s on more than Andy for example. If she isn’t getting paid for that, it’s wrong.

And Adam Rapoport comes off as an asshole when he is on camera.

That doesn't even look like "brownface" to me. It looks like a tan. People need to calm down.

The Bon Appetit youtube videos are insufferably long and tedious. The hosts lack charisma, especially that nasty cunt Claire.

What's with the Alex Guarnaschelli shit?

[quote] How is this different from Justin Trudeau wearing blackface year ago?

It's not. And Trudeau did it 3 times.

He was really resigning for how he treated Puerto Rican food writer Illyanna Maisonet. She'd pitched an idea to BA about an article on Puerto Rican food, got a nasty response from an editor named Meryl, then a few months later saw what was basically her idea in the magazine but presented by Molly Baz. She contacted Adam and he was dismissive and racist. Then the photo of Adam showed up because of that incident, and it was just a visual confirmation of what was already suspected.

People could say "Well, maybe his text to Illyanna just sounded worse than he meant it" but once you saw the photo, you couldn't shrug it off anymore.

Claire Saffitz is about the furthest thing from being a nasty cunt. If you think she's a nasty cunt, then you've never truly encountered a nasty cunt before. Either that or you're too delicate for everyday life.

The only nasty cunt on the BA channel is Andy. Can’t stand him I think he’s phony.

They are all under 60 whys everyone’s hair gray..

Brownfaced food editor? Was he doing a Dirty Sanchez?

[quote]What ever Sohla El-Waylly is doing at Bon Appetit is undoubtedly easier than being a line cook in a restaurant and with better hours and benefits. Unless she was called in on a Saturday to record a video, she was already there and already getting paid.

The point is that personalities like Brad and Claire and Carla were getting paid separately for their videos and their editing/writing, while Priya, Sohla and others aren't. Brad and Claire and Carla are no longer at BA, if you'll notice. They're freelancers now who have other jobs and still come in for videos because they were getting paid for those separately.

Yes, the publishing world is full of jobs like the ones at Conde Nast where you don't get paid much and shouldn't rely on it for your only income, but you'll get connections and exposure that should make up for it. But there are people there like Jesse and Gaby who are put on camera regularly but aren't getting that exposure, and aren't getting paid, either.

[quote]And now Rapaport has resigned. That is not going to win her much of a raise at this current job. And she'll never get another job anywhere doing anything.

She wasn't even close to the only BA personality and employee who called for his resignation, and you're a fool if you think she won't get hired anywhere ever again. BA recruited her in the first place, and she's become popular and in demand already, as YOU YOURSELF SAID. That "she'll never work again" crap is hyperbolic fantasy you've constructed because you want her to pay for her insolence.

The insolence of speaking the truth and exposing an issue with Conde Nast, I guess. The DLers who love corporations over humans never cease to amaze me.

Who are these losers combing back decades searching for provocative posts to destroy people? Getalife

R40 no company will hire a person that’s been involved in a scandal.

[quote]Sohla said she had asked for $65K (I read that somewhere else) and BA said no. $15K, for BA, sounds like less than a drop in the bucket.

Obviously they have a film crew and editors to pay along with the talent in front of the camera, and the overhead for all the equipment in the test kitchen, but those videos get millions of views. Even the less popular videos that simply explain a recipe in the magazine will get hundreds of thousands of views.

That's got to be bringing in a ton of money. YouTube ads generate about 25 cents per, and the channel owner gets a little over half that, so let's say they get 13 cents per view. On a Claire Saffitz or Brad Leone video, they're getting 3-4M views, which would be nearly $500,000 in ad revenue per video if they only serve up one ad. Some of those videos have up to 4 ads per. That is a lot of money.

Sohla doesn't get that many views yet but she's often paired with Brad, and her videos have to be bringing in tens of thousands of dollars just in ad revenue, so yeah, not giving her an extra $15K per year in salary seems incredibly bogus.

[quote]no company will hire a person that’s been involved in a scandal

Every BA personality except Gaby released a statement condemning Adam's behavior. You think none of them will ever be hired by any company ever? Get the fuck out of here.

He has a tragic case of gayface.

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A lot of people thirst over Andy, but he's just ok looking. I think Brad is much more handsome.

And I agree with previous posts. This cancel culture over little things like Halloween pics has to be cancelled.

#metoo hysteria / score settling paradigm has now moved onto race and white people with a sun tan.

Adam and Chris are so nelly.

Humans are so interesting.

[quote] Brad and Claire and Carla are no longer at BA, if you'll notice.

Carla is an “Editor at Large “ at BA and Brad Is still Test Kitchen Manager. They also have additional contracts for their videos. Which Sohla did not have, despite doing the same work. She wasn’t offered a contract until she spoke out.

I’m a Bon Appetit “Food cast” subscriber. Bon App is very much the white sorority/fraternity that you would expect it to be. They occasionally interview nonwhites and they occasionally talk about diversity. They just don’t employ them. Which is typical. It is the norm in this country.

I started a thread about Rapoport, a while back. He hosts the “foodcast” and he comes off like a huge doche bag. My one email comment for them = get a new host.

Bon Appetit is a great example of white liberals talking a good game about diversity. Yet doing nothing because they don’t really give a fuck. Talking a good game but refusing to employ, promote and compensate nonwhites (particularly black peoples) fairly.

Actually, what Rapoport and Bon App did was worse. They intentionally attempted to give the appearance of diversity.

This is why these conversations about racism are pointless. As long as whites continue to turn around and continue the same white supremacist behavior, nothing will change. Refusing to employ nonwhites, segregating themselves, segregating public schools are all practiced by both conservative and the same liberal whites who like to talk about diversity. Whites can change all of this anytime they choose and so far they choose no to change it. Bon App is the norm for this country.

This country. This country. Racism and classism and nationalism and xenophobia are common to every country and every culture all around the world. They each do it in their own way. They each do it to their targets. But they all do it.

Remember all the attention bullying got several years ago? We are born with all the skills needed to intimidate, harass, attack, demean, diminish. It comes mixed with some wonderful traits, but it's never not there. Not for anyone.

Food writers and automotive journalists are top heavy with smug smart asses.

[quote] . How is this different from Justin Trudeau wearing blackface year ago? He survived that handily. There must be other reasons to get rid of this guy. If not, wouldn't a simple apology do? Cancel culture sometimes makes sense and other times seems to function exactly like a lynch mob or the witch hunts of the past.

It’s different because Trudeau is an elected official (he doesn’t work for a corporation) and he chose not to resign. Rapoport works for a corporation built on branding.

[quote] This country. This country. Racism and classism and nationalism and xenophobia are common to every country and every culture all around the world. They each do it in their own way. They each do it to their targets. But they all do it.

I’m not arguing that other countries don’t. However my comments are not about every country the world over. My comments are about this country.

Brown face? I’ve never heard of a scat recipient being fired.

He has gayface.

For Halloween, let's get dressed up in the most offensive Halloween costumes. That will cause the SJW's and cancel culture folks' brains (if they had ay) to explode.

if they had any (sorry)

Claire is very popular. (She's the one who reverse engineers foods like Twix.) She's very natural on camera and part of the appeal of the show was her becoming tired and frustrated. Now, IMO, it seems like she's always tired and frustrated (and complaining).

What about beautiful African woman Joy Behar?

I did a YouTube search for Adam Rapoport and a bunch of Bon Appetit videos featuring Molly Baz (in the thumbnail, too) popped up. Molly Baz, IMO, presents as a non-threatening (baby voice), young Caucasian woman next door. Rapoport really seemed to favor her.

Baz acknowledged that she benefited from the system of paying only the white people who appeared in YT videos:

[quote] Molly said that she did “not support the behaviour of our editor in chief” and delved into her privilege as a white woman at Bon Appetit, saying, “I will fight to foster equality and justice in our workplace and recognise that as a white person I have personally benefited from our flawed system.”

[quote] Baz continued, “I WILL NOT APPEAR IN ANY VIDEOS ON BON APPETIT UNTIL MY BIPOC [Black, Indigenous, and People of Color] COLLEAGUES RECEIVE EQUAL PAY AND ARE FAIRLY COMPENSATED FOR THEIR APPEARANCES.” Carla Lalli Music, Bon Appetit editor at large, on her IG Story said she supported Baz’s position.

R60, Molly is actually pretty blunt and harsh, the kind of lady who will say "I think you should stay in your lane!" over a tiny disagreement.

Did anyone read the Business Insider article about this, where Rapo's assistant said when she first asked him how he wanted his coffee, he said "Like Rihanna"?

"Rapo," r62?

Are you the "Chambo" cunt?

Usurpers need to be very careful. If they did it with you, they’ll do it to you.

Also: some people just want to see the world burn.

I would like to tongue-punch Alex Delany’s fart box.

[quote] Usurpers need to be very careful. If they did it with you, they’ll do it to you. Also: some people just want to see the world burn.

And some people just don’t want to work for an asshole. You sound like one of those people passively helps perpetuate the bullshit at work, refusing to ever speak up for yourself.

[quote]Usurpers

Who usurped whom...or what? I think I'm missing something.

[quote] I WILL NOT APPEAR IN ANY VIDEOS ON BON APPETIT UNTIL MY BIPOC [Black, Indigenous, and People of Color] COLLEAGUES RECEIVE EQUAL PAY

So "BIPOC" is a new word we have to know?

MORE, MORE!

AGAIN, AGAIN!

Unsubscribed from their newsletter just now. NOO longer supporting trash. Thank you for showing peoples asses, 2020.

Wow, r70, unsubscribing from a free newsletter? Such a bold move. They will feel the heat of your wrath.

[quote] [D]rinks editor Alex Delany was caught in a flurry of resurfaced posts[.] For one — a picture of a Confederate-flag cake Delany says he posted to Tumblr when he was 17 — he apologized. But other posts, including an old Vine of Delany using a homophobic slur (he refers to a pile of sticks as "a bunch of f------ lying on top of each other"), have not elicited a response from Delany yet.

Here's the "Insider" article.

All the men featured on the YouTube videos are white: Adam, Chris, Brad, Andy (I think he's considered white), Delany, and Amiel. The women are where you would find people of color: Sohla, Gaby, Christina, and Priya.

Bon Appetit suddenly stopped putting out YouTube videos. They had been putting out videos pretty much daily.

Here's the last video BA put out before the shit hit the fan. YT comments are notoriously stupid, IMO, but there are a lot of comments addressing the pay disparity betw. whites & non-whites.

I love that Andy is getting called out for being a cunt. Why was he nasty to Antoni from Queer Eye.

R71 They will feel my wrath and her aftermath. You don’t know me like you think you do.

[quote]For Halloween, let's get dressed up in the most offensive Halloween costumes. That will cause the SJW's and cancel culture folks' brains (if they had ay) to explode.

You sure are edgy r56! That'll show 'em!

Andy was nasty to Antoni because they were up for the same slot on the rebooted Queer Eye and Antoni got it over Andy.

Is Andy white? He's Arab.

R77 ummmm please. you can be arab and white. don’t be dumb.

I just don’t understand why you would ever put racist tweets or black or brown face photos into the public domain in the first place. Then you have nothing to apologise for later. Personally, I’ve never found blackface remotely humorous in the first place. What precisely is the appeal? It shocks me how many of these photos crop up, I really just don’t get why you would want to do it.

Agree, R79.

[quote] Adam Rapoport—who resigned from his role as editor in chief of Bon Appétit this week following the unearthing of a photograph of him in brownface—once said that he takes his coffee “like Rihanna,” according to his former personal assistant. Ryan Walker-Hartshorn, who has worked as Rapoport’s assistant for the past few years, told Business Insider that she was made to clean Rapoport’s golf clubs, fetch his son’s passport, and teach his wife how to use Google Calendar.

When I read this "like Rihanna" comment, I couldn't figure it out. I thought maybe Rihanna had a song about coffee. Now, I realize it's about her skin tone.

Until Megyn Kelly talked about it a few years ago I assumed that people knew blackface was not acceptable and hadn’t been since Amos and Andy.

I have to confess something. I dressed up as a harem girl in college. And I made my friends dress that way too. All because I wanted to get hit on. I just confessed it to my family today.

Also, I'm too lazy to read this. So he was an a-hole so someone outed his racism? Did Claire do anything wrong? My tween to teen kids find Claire really soothing. A few months ago they would watch her right before bed time. I don't know if it was mostly the thoughts of sugarplums dancing in their heads or what, but they were on a serious weeks or months long Claire kick.

Andy is Iranian.

Beigeface or taupeface?

You're all beating up on Adam because of your anti-semitism. A Jewish man gets ahead, even just a little, and you people come out to drag him down. Every damned time.

Caption this:

The Ladies of BA Who Lunch

On a related note, someone on Twitter posted how shocked she was that Refinery 29, which had its own dustup, was a bunch of mean girls when she thought they'd be progressive feminists doing important work. Do people not know that lifestyle magazines are by and for high school cool kids? The more women on staff, the more awful they are and the gay art directors are forced to be everybody's gay best friend. I had a niece who went to NYC and told her not to work anyplace that was more than 50 percent female.

Sohla's tattoos are so hideous, I avoid watching her on BA youtube. Start at 0:29.

I can’t stand that bitchy midget Andy. I skip all his videos.

Brad is a daddy

I agree with you about Brad. He is the most handsome of the bunch, and he's tall, beefy, and masculine.

I like the comedy of Molly and Carla on camera.

Molly is such a basic white girl. She might as well be doing these videos in Ugg Boots and shorts while drinking a Starbucks Frappuccino

I like Brad, too. But let's face it, he's a golden retriever.

R92, I think that was part of the problem. Molly (Caucasian, blonde, girl next door, baby-talking, mediocre) was paid for her work and some others were not.

Molly Baz always looks disheveled.

I also love the Molly/Carla dynamic.

IIRC, two staff workers (women, possibly non-white) complained that Carla emailed them & told them to stay out of the test kitchen during filming. Carla had no comment. Turns out Carla also sent an email to Delany (white man, drinks editor, not food editor) with the same command. Supposedly, Delany did not not comply. Have to give Carla credit for that. Delany does seem like he'd "wander in" when the camera was rolling.

Sorry, I tried looking for the article where I read this and can't find it now.

R97 one of the young ladies is Korean and one is black. Karla saw the 2 of them in the kitchen talking to Brad. She immediately fired off that email. She sent it to the 2 young ladies and Delaney. Delaney however continued to visit the kitchen without invitation and he was not reprimanded.

R93 Brad quickly got grating and annoying. Wouldn't hurt him to focus a little bit and drop the "GOLDEN retriever" act

Brad turns Chris and Carla on; they both flirt with him

[quote] [R93] Brad quickly got grating and annoying. Wouldn't hurt him to focus a little bit and drop the "GOLDEN retriever" act

It’s not an act. He’s an idiot.

[quote] Brad turns Chris and Carla on; they both flirt with him

Chris and Adam are two of the gayest straight Bros ever. Chris’ voice and speech patterns annoy the shit out of me.

Brad was kicked out of the military.

[quote] Chris’ voice and speech patterns annoy the shit out of me.

*Very* annoying. Says "like" at least once per sentence. Upspeak. Ugh!

I might be wrong but I thought it was somewhere on Twitter of someone saying that the reason why Andy did what he did is because he's jealous of "masc" Antoni.

I’d love to watch Brad hold Chris down with his hand over his mouth and fuck him mercilessly. On a serious note, Carla’s email-gate was blown out of proportion amidst this witch hunt. She has commented on it and it’s a big nothing.

Alex Delaney has also come under fire for homophobic comments.

R97, that was in the Business Insider article. Since then Carla has responded on Twitter saying she didn't reply to BI because Conde Nast asked her not to and said they would comment, but then they didn't, so she posted the email she sent and made it clear she sent it to a lot of people of various races, not just black women.

The article was a little sketchy because they made it sound at first like she only scolded two black employees, then later in the article quoted one of the black employees saying Delaney got it, too, which undermined their initial implication that Carla was being racist and singling black employees out, which she wasn't.

[quote]Andy is Iranian.

He usually refers to himself as Persian.

I've been watching BA for months now and was a little taken aback during lockdown when he implied that Brad Leone was racist for wanting to use sumac in a recipe, because "let's be honest, sumac isn't HIS food, it's mine." Andy can be unnecessarily bitchy, like when he picked out some parts of another chef's recipe and threw them in the trash right in front of the camera.

And he has this awful habit of showing up in shirts that are ripped to literal shreds. He's got about five different shirts like this, it's insufferable.

Why not use your "ripped to literal shreds" shirts for cooking, r108? He should wear a dress shirt and tie? Chefs' whites? Please.

I put some sumac on my scrambled eggs yesterday morning. I’m not Persian. Should I have checked with Andy first to get the a-ok? I mean! really...

[quote]He's got about five different shirts like this, it's insufferable.

Not as insufferable as comma splices, however.

On the subreddit people have pretty much excused the youtube personalities and demonised Adam. Saying "hate the game" and "people can change". All these people are awful and should be fired. You might say they apologised means something, but why wouldn't they? If you're caught with evidence that you did something you've no choice but to apologise if you want to keep your career.

[quote]Why not use your "ripped to literal shreds" shirts for cooking

He's at work, and he's filming professional videos for his job. "Don't wear shredded t-shirts for your video shoot at work" isn't controversial.

THESE are the guys with hairy arms and shaved hands! lol

Especially on the guido.

I was expecting something a little more "shredded," r113. That t-shirt hardly qualifies.

[italic]A Long-Overdue Apology, and Where We Go From Here[/italic], by the Bon Appétit and Epicurious Staffs. June 10, 2020

We, the staffs of Bon Appétit and Epicurious, want to address our readers, contributors, and peers in light of Adam Rapoport’s resignation as editor in chief. The deeply offensive photo circulating of Adam is horrific on its own, but also speaks to the much broader and longstanding impact of racism at these brands.

We have been complicit with a culture we don’t agree with and are committed to change. Our mastheads have been far too white for far too long. As a result, the recipes, stories, and people we’ve highlighted have too often come from a white-centric viewpoint. At times we have treated non-white stories as “not newsworthy” or “trendy.” Other times we have appropriated, co-opted, and Columbused them. While we’ve hired more people of color, we have continued to tokenize many BIPOC staffers and contributors in our videos and on our pages. Many new BIPOC hires have been in entry-level positions with little power, and we will be looking to accelerate their career advancement and pay. Black staffers have been saddled with contributing racial education to our staffs and appearing in editorial and promotional photo shoots to make our brands seem more diverse. We haven’t properly learned from or taken ownership of our mistakes. But things are going to change.

We have been seriously discussing what change can look like at BA and Epi and what we need to do to make it an inclusive, just, and equitable place. To start, that means prioritizing people of color for the editor in chief candidate pool, implementing anti-racism training for our staff, and resolving any pay inequities that are found across all departments. It means dismantling the toxic, top-down culture that has hurt many members of our staff both past and present and supporting Condé Nast’s internal investigation to hold individual offenders accountable.

Furthermore, it is our editorial mission to better acknowledge, honor, and amplify BIPOC voices. We will seek and hire more freelancers of color across all platforms and invest in those relationships for the long run. Our coverage will center, rather than patronize, the contributions of marginalized people. We will do the work of building trust with our BIPOC contributors and launch multiple columns written by BIPOC on print and digital platforms. We will overhaul our recipe development process to address issues of ownership and appropriation. We will audit previously published articles and recipes to ensure proper crediting and contextualization. We will also create research protocols to vet the subjects of our coverage; there will be zero tolerance for racism, sexism, homophobia, or harassment in any form.

This is just the start. We want to be transparent, accountable, and active as we begin to dismantle racism at our brands.

Zzzzzzzz...

[quote]deeply offensive photo

A white guy in a Yankees track suit is now deeply offensive? Best not venture outside of your safe Manhattan bubble kids.

Horrific, r118! Just [italic]horrific[/italic] !

(102) Details please.

I don't mind Brad's ADHD. I watch him mostly for the eye candy, anyways.

Chris is the one I go to for cooking explanations and technique.

[quote] I’d love to watch Brad hold Chris down with his hand over his mouth and fuck him mercilessly. On a serious note, Carla’s email-gate was blown out of proportion amidst this witch hunt. She has commented on it and it’s a big nothing.

Again, one of the young ladies is Korean and one is black. Karla saw the 2 of them in the kitchen talking to Brad. She immediately fired off that email. She sent it to the 2 young ladies and Delaney. Delaney however continued to visit the kitchen without invitation and he was not reprimanded.

Of course you’re here to tell us that whites are being victimized. Because whites are always victims of the evil nonwhites; who have nothing better to do that make up stories of mistreatment. This is part of the reason why the perpetual white frat boy/sorority girl culture continues to dominate professional work spaces. Even those who don’t benefit from it, make excuses for it and support it. Gays don’t benefit from it but gays want to fuck the “hot” frat boy too.

[quote] A white guy in a Yankees track suit is now deeply offensive?

1. That doesn’t really accurately describe his costume.

2. Bon Appetit is a brand. Condé Nast is a brand. They sell themselves as racially and multiculturally diverse. They made that apart of their brand. Which can be dangerous for organizations that don’t employee minorities. You risk being exposed. Of course most professional work spaces are exactly like Bon Appetit and many of them market themselves in a similar way. Every corporation has a diversity policy. Yet most are very white. And whites look around and assume: Oh we must be the only ones who are qualified or we’re the only ones who took the initiative to apply. We are just so special.

[quote] Chris is the one I go to for cooking explanations and technique.

Chris’s voice and his up speak are like nails on a chalk board. I wonder if he is one of those really effeminate men who has a masculine wife.

R121, you really think a magazine titled "Bon Appétit" is in any way intended to be racially and culturally diverse? You're out of your mind.

Even the late "Gourmet" did not sport a name as exclusionary as "Bon Appétit," every letter of which is designed to drip with classism and snobbery. A magazine focusing on fine cooking that sports a French name, complete with an accent aigu in the masthead, is in no way intended to be anything but targeted to a very select and elite readership.

It screams that. How on earth can you miss it?

(r123) but Gourmet was actually much more exclusionary. I bought Gourmet for fun reading but Bon Appetit and Food and Wine for the recipes.

[quote] [R121], you really think a magazine titled "Bon Appétit" is in any way intended to be racially and culturally diverse? You're out of your mind. Even the late "Gourmet" did not sport a name as exclusionary as "Bon Appétit," every letter of which is designed to drip with classism and snobbery. A magazine focusing on fine cooking that sports a French name, complete with an accent aigu in the masthead, is in no way intended to be anything but targeted to a very select and elite readership. It screams that. How on earth can you miss it?

Cultural elites are supposed to be cosmopolites. They are supposed to be intellectuals who embrace diversity.

Bon Appetit is tapping into popular culture. The current foody culture, the current hipster culture, the current woke culture. They have to in order to remain relevant and stay afloat. They have millions of youtube followers, most probably young people. Whatever their focus may have been in the past. This is what they currently are or what their brand is. It still has snob appeal but snob appeal that is hip and cool.

They cover things like natural wine and sustainability.

[quote]The current foody culture, the current hipster culture, the current woke culture.

"foody" = "foodie"?

I thought hipsters hated to cook. That they only eat dry cereal so they don't have to wash any dishes. I can't imagine a hipster making coq au vin, rolling their own pasta, or even making a club sandwich. Hell, I can't imagine a hipster assembling a ham and cheese on rye with mustard.

And do the woke even eat? Isn't everything appropriation?

I gather Andrew Knowlton won’t be the new editor if they’re looking for a diverse talent pool.

[quote] foody" = "foodie"? I thought hipsters hated to cook. That they only eat dry cereal so they don't have to wash any dishes. I can't imagine a hipster making coq au vin, rolling their own pasta, or even making a club sandwich. Hell, I can't imagine a hipster assembling a ham and cheese on rye with mustard. And do the woke even eat? Isn't everything appropriation?

Foody/foodie both made up words.

It’s sounds like you’re very out of touch with popular culture. Perhaps you should subscribe to Bon Appetit.

Long story short Bon Appetit branding = hip and cool.

and shaved man hands!

Andy should repent by doing his next segment in the nude.

[quote]Karla saw the 2 of them in the kitchen talking to Brad. She immediately fired off that email. She sent it to the 2 young ladies and Delaney.

R121, Carla Music had a long thread on Twitter about the email, which she sent to several people, not just the three you listed. It was just as the test kitchen was starting to be used as a studio and so the staff often had to be reminded to not just wander in like they used to, because they were often filming. She'd gotten several complaints and not just about the two women.

Delaney did keep going and didn't get reprimanded again, but he was one of the first to get his own show called "Alex Eats it All" and so I suspect he was always allowed in the test kitchen, even if he didn't film in the test kitchen but at restaurants. He was one of their video stars so he got treated differently.

Amelia Rampe on Twitter said Carla wasn't responsive to her and was always "microaggressive" but also said Carla told Amelia to report her to HR, so I don't know what to think. Carla telling Amelia to go to HR about it doesn't sound like someone covering their ass.

Carla has also taken responsibility for this in multiple tweets. I'm not sure that's fair, because obviously there are a lot of managers and supervisors responsible here. She certainly wasn't the one who decided Delaney could be allowed into the test kitchen. She's the one who told him to cut it out and not pester people. He ignored her. Someone above her apparently said that was fine.

As an aside, YT videos absolutely do not generate 25 cents per view.

Carla is repeating what has already been said. The thread is long because of the comments, not because she’s offering any new info, other than the text of the email. She now acknowledges that the culture was “toxic.” However, as someone who was in a leadership role; she made no attempt to change it. Now she’s forced to speak out and of course she is concerned about the trajectory of her own career.

[quote]However, as someone who was in a leadership role; she made no attempt to change it.

We don't know that at all, and I doubt she was in much of a leadership role. She couldn't keep Alex Delaney out of the test kitchen and she obviously didn't reprimand anyone, all anyone has complained about were "microaggressions," not reprimands.

Delaney and Leone got their own shows when they were in their 20s. Delaney was still blogging "f*goot" jokes when he got his show at age 24 or so. Music didn't get a show or even a career to speak of until she was in her 40s. It wasn't because of lack of talent, because Delaney isn't even a trained chef, he's just a personality. Her career took longer and more work because she wasn't a white bro.

I'm not really into the modern trend of blaming all white women for everything and never talking about the obvious straight white guys who did the most harm. You're not upset at the editors or managers or owners, you're not questioning the gay jokes Delaney made, you're just making up scenarios you think might have happened so you can blame Carla for everything.

I mean "f-ggot" jokes, not fagoot jokes, obviously.

Carla’s voice (nasal, whiney) is irritating, too, but not as bad as Chris Morocco’s.

Carla had a career prior to Bon Appetit. She helped launch Shake Shack, for Christ's sake. She is probably the only person out of that whole bunch who belongs in front of a camera talking about food.

Carla has become my favorite in the kitchen. Seems like a cool chick.

So this Solah woman accepted a job offer and salary and decided to raise hell because she hasn’t gotten a raise in 7 months? And because they haven’t showered her with cash for appearing in a video for two minutes during normal working hours where she was already on the clock? She better stay at BA as long as she can because i doubt any other company would want to put up with her.

That’s not quite the issue, r145, from my understanding.

Sohla has become one of the most prominent personalities on their you tube channel. She is featured as either true primary chef in their videos or has a significant supporting role. She’s on as frequently as Molly, for example. If Molly is getting paid for those videos and Sohla isn’t there is a problem.

(R146) Yes, she has become a prominent personality but that's been pretty recent. I did like her but after all this mess I'm sure I'd find her unbearable in person.

[quote] We don't know that at all, and I doubt she was in much of a leadership role. She couldn't keep Alex Delaney out of the test kitchen and she obviously didn't reprimand anyone, all anyone has complained about were "microaggressions," not reprimands. Delaney and Leone got their own shows when they were in their 20s. Delaney was still blogging "f*goot" jokes when he got his show at age 24 or so. Music didn't get a show or even a career to speak of until she was in her 40s. It wasn't because of lack of talent, because Delaney isn't even a trained chef, he's just a personality. Her career took longer and more work because she wasn't a white bro.

Music was Food Director. She was in a position of leadership and she has been with the publication since 2011. Music is not a bro, but she actively or passively supported what she now labels as "toxic" bro sorority girl/frat boy culture. Which is what most people do. Which is fine but keep the after the fact agent for change rhetoric. You're not really concerned about changing a culture in which you flourished. You're interested in proactively laying a foundation that will enable you to flourish in what you predict will be the new culture. This is about her on personal career trajectory, not altruism or inherent desire for change.

[quote] I'm not really into the modern trend of blaming all white women for everything and never talking about the obvious straight white guys who did the most harm. You're not upset at the editors or managers or owners, you're not questioning the gay jokes Delaney made, you're just making up scenarios you think might have happened so you can blame Carla for everything.

Good I'm not either and that's not really a trend. I'm also not into portraying those who are complicit as victims. I addressed Carla individually. I also addressed Adam and some of the others individually. None of this is one persons fault. They all participated and benefited. All of this is typical of professional work spaces in this country. If there is anything to be upset about (for many or even most there's not); the fact that most of our work spaces are defined by this "toxic" culture should be it. Its nice that you like Carla. She however is not a victim. She has an Ivy League degree. Her mother was a food critic and cookbook editor at Simon and Schuster. She has had a very privileged life and again she benefited from the culture that she now labels as "toxic." She'll be fine.

[quote] If Molly is getting paid for those videos and Sohla isn’t there is a problem.

Not really. Molly as has been at Bon Appetit for nearly 2.5 years. Sohla has been there less than one year. Molly is a Senior Associate Food Editor. Sohla's title is Assistant Food Editor.

BA has significantly longer and deeper investment in Molly. That she makes more is to be expected. There is nothing out of line with that in any way. They don't have the same job.

I thought Carla was strange the first time I watched one of her videos, in which she talked about hating angel hair, one of my two favorite box pastas. How could anyone hate angel hair, I asked myself. She must be cooking it too long. I'm not going to watch any more of HER videos.

And I didn't.

And then on day three or so of Pandemica, the entire BA test kitchen appeared in a link, I forget how, in which each of them showed us what they were cooking now that they're working from home. These are really the only BA videos I've ever watched. I still think of Carla as the angel hair hater, and I dismiss much of what she says just based on that.

I like Chris, but I am profoundly disappointed he's not gay.

Andy seems like a nasty bitch a lot of the time, but I enjoy his food.

Sohla has horrid tattoos, and I go right past her.

I like Gabby, but I don't always catch every word.

Molly and Brad are bores, but I like Molly's cooking. I keep expecting Brad to break something.

There are two other guys I thought were gay. I don't remember their names. One is sequestering in Mexico. I like his food.

I'm mostly familiar with Adam as the masthead name. I've been reading the magazine in my dentist's office for a few years now, and I associate his name with the fact that I like the magazine again for the first time since the early 1980s. I really wish they weren't firing him. I actually started subscribing again recently.

BA knows who’s subscribing to their magazine and who is watching their videos. I’d guess that the vast, vast majority of their subscribers are upper middle class white women. Of course they’re content is going to be geared to them.

[quote]There are two other guys I thought were gay. I don't remember their names. One is sequestering in Mexico. I like his food.

Rick Martinez is the guy sequestering in Mexico. He's openly gay. He's so reserved on camera he's never made much of an impression on me but his recipes always look good. He tweeted something about one of the Bon Appetit bigwigs (I don't think it was Adam) making a snarky remark about him always cooking Mexican food in his videos because it was so easy for him. But BA apparently wanted the BIPOC chefs to focus on ethnic foods so it seems like he was in a no-win position.

I'm guessing the other guy you mean is Amiel Stanek. I thought he was gay too but he's married with kids just like Chris Morocco. They find the gayest straight guys at that place.

[quote] Not really. Molly as has been at Bon Appetit for nearly 2.5 years. Sohla has been there less than one year. Molly is a Senior Associate Food Editor. Sohla's title is Assistant Food Editor. BA has significantly longer and deeper investment in Molly. That she makes more is to be expected. There is nothing out of line with that in any way. They don't have the same j

2.5 years is not a significant length time. She’s not even vested.

A 2 yr or 1.5 yr difference is not a significant length of time and it does not = a significant nor deep investment. That’s nonsense. They both are fairly new.

Sohla despite have greater experience that others was hired as an assistant. She was hired to assist people who had less experience. Which is fine. However, she was given more and more responsibility, including recording videos. Videos where she was intentionally pushed to the front to counter the lack of diversity criticism. She was not compensated for those videos. When she asked for compensation. She was given the run around.

[quote] BA knows who’s subscribing to their magazine and who is watching their videos. I’d guess that the vast, vast majority of their subscribers are upper middle class white women. Of course they’re content is going to be geared to them.

They have a large and diverse YouTube following and they were receiving complaints about diversity and used Sohla to counter that. They also used the face of an African chef to promote the brand. They didn’t hire that check but they did pay her to do 2 videos, $400 per video. Perhaps surprisingly more the upper class whites women enjoy Youtube cooking videos.

Again this comes down to BA branding itself as hip, cool and diverse. When they are really a typical “toxic” (the word used by 10 yr vet Carla) privileged white frat boy/sorority girl corporate operation.

Funnily enough (or not funny, I guess) I find Rick and Amiel to be the most attractive guys in the TK.

[quote] Rick Martinez is the guy sequestering in Mexico. He's openly gay. He's so reserved on camera he's never made much of an impression on me but his recipes always look good. He tweeted something about one of the Bon Appetit bigwigs (I don't think it was Adam) making a snarky remark about him always cooking Mexican food in his videos because it was so easy for him. But BA apparently wanted the BIPOC chefs to focus on ethnic foods so it seems like he was in a no-win position. I'm guessing the other guy you mean is Amiel Stanek. I thought he was gay too but he's married with kids just like Chris Morocco. They find the gayest straight guys at that place.

BA restaurant editor, Andrew Knowlton made the comment to Martinez (if I remember correctly). Knowlton is known for being a jack ass. He judged on one of those chef cooking shows.

[quote] Funnily enough (or not funny, I guess) I find Rick and Amiel to be the most attractive guys in the TK.

Amiel EWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

Whats up with his costumes?

When he called Prya by Sohla's name on stage during the 92nd Street Y event I think we saw where things stood.

I hate their outfits in that video.

He had to resign from his magazine but Sandra Lee got off Scott free after making her Uber racist Kwanzaa Cake?

PS - Amiel has childbearing hips.

[quote] He had to resign from his magazine but Sandra Lee got off Scott free after making her Uber racist Kwanzaa Cake?

Food Network actually still has the “recipe“ proudly posted.

What's Amiel's ethnic background? Jewish?

[quote] What's Amiel's ethnic background? Jewish?

Dork

Or maybe Dweeb

Spazz

R161 that cake is disgusting. Many of her meals are horrible.

R162 Amiel comes from proud Polish people and I love his childbearing hips

Knowlton Is a jackass, but he’s mellowed over the years.

Would it kill Molly to run a comb through her hair?

[quote] Knowlton Is a jackass, but he’s mellowed over the years.

Dialing back the jack assery, after being called out about it = “mellowing?”

Knowlton was high and mighty, but I think he corrected his douchebaggery!!!

[quote] Knowlton was high and mighty, but I think he corrected his douchebaggery!!!

His professional ambitions are forcing him to pretend.

Knowlton was a judge on iron chef. But he had a grudge against Aaron Sanchez because they went to school together and Aaron Sanchez used to bully Knowlton mercilessly.

[quote] Knowlton was a judge on iron chef. But he had a grudge against Aaron Sanchez because they went to school together and Aaron Sanchez used to bully Knowlton mercilessly.

Andrew Knowlton was born in Florida and raised in Georgia. He speaks fondly of his suburban Georgia upbringing. He went to a Christian school in Atlanta and then Bates College.

Aaron Sánchez was born in Texas. His family later moved to New York. His mom owned an acclaimed restaurant. He attended The Dwight School in NY and the Johnson and Wales.

R173 is a LIAR

Knowlton bullied Sanchez because he's a dick and he could.

What’s the story on Sanchez anyway?

[quote] What’s the story on Sanchez anyway?

What do you mean?

I believe noted jackass Andrew Knowlton doesn't even work at the BA offices anymore and has moved to Texas as of last year, because all he does now is a podcast (that no one listens to) and posts on the blog.

Anthony Bourdain made some comment on his blog about how Knowlton and Sanchez must have had a "schoolyard fight" which would explain why Knowlton was so nasty to Sanchez, but I don't know if that was literal or not.

[quote]Our pal Aaron Sanchez barely avoided being cut on the Next Iron Chef since according to Bourdain, Alton “Knowlton seems not to have disclosed a prior schoolyard incident with a young Aaron ‘El Guapo’ Sanchez — in which Sanchez (it would appear) bullied him mercilessly. He seemed unnaturally eager to send him packing.”

R174 Google it, douchebag.

[quote] Its nice that you like Carla.

And its [sic] nice that you think being condescending is a substitute for conversation.

This isn't about who I like. It's that Carla, as you yourself said, was highly accomplished, yet Alex Delaney -- who was 24, had no accomplishments, and was still so unprofessional he was blogging "faggot" jokes -- had been given both a regular office job at BA as well as a paid second job with his own YouTube show.

You claim she supported the "bro culture" when you have no evidence of that fact, other than your constant "that's how it goes in every office in the U.S." refrain, which is a cop-out. I would submit that it's highly unlikely she DID support the bro culture, given how someone like Alex could get further at BA than she did, with no experience and with a sketchy, unprofessional background.

And if she had the authority to kick Delaney out of the test kitchen, why didn't she? You apparently would assume she just let the bros be bros, but I think it's far more likely she didn't have the authority to kick him out, not to mention he'd embedded himself as a foil for Brad Leone on his show and suddenly had a reason to be in the test kitchen. Sure, he was given a pass, but it wasn't because of Carla's selfish evil desire to continue on her lofty and undeserved career trajectory, it was because he took advantage of the bro culture.

To hear you tell it, it was Carla benefiting from bro culture who was the real problem and, sorry, no. The "faggot" joke guy is the problem here. His "I get brown women confused" boss is the problem here.

As for trying to preserve their careers, EVERYBODY at BA is doing that. Every single one. Well, maybe not Gaby, she seems to have avoided it, but everyone is concerned about their careers. Not at all sure why Carla got singled out here by you, and by the ladies on Twitter.

[quote] This isn't about who I like. It's that Carla, as you yourself said, was highly accomplished, yet Alex Delaney -- who was 24, had no accomplishments, and was still so unprofessional he was blogging "faggot" jokes -- had been given both a regular office job at BA as well as a paid second job with his own YouTube show.

1. This is absolutely about your own personal preferences. You have your own personal biases. As we all do. You are offering your opinion and I am offering mine.

2. I described Carla as privileged and I mentioned her privileged background. She is however accomplished and she benefited from what she refers to as the "toxic" culture at BA.

3. You continue to argue about Delaney. In which part of my argument did I defend Delaney?

[quote] You claim she supported the "bro culture" when you have no evidence of that fact, other than your constant "that's how it goes in every office in the U.S." refrain, which is a cop-out. I would submit that it's highly unlikely she DID support the bro culture, given how someone like Alex could get further at BA than she did, with no experience and with a sketchy, unprofessional background.

[quote] To hear you tell it, it was Carla benefiting from bro culture who was the real problem and, sorry, no. The "faggot" joke guy is the problem here. His "I get brown women confused" boss is the problem here.

1. As I stated before THEY ARE ALL COMPLICIT. If you come out after the fact and condemn the corporate culture. You didn't just recently find out that it was "toxic." You knew and you failed to speak out Up until you felt it was safe and could potentially benefit you. Carla is a privileged white woman from a privileged background. BA employed, rewarded and promoted privileged whites. The "toxic" culture at BA rewarded privileged whites. It was far from "toxic" for them. It was only toxic to those who were not like them. They benefited. They are all COMPLICIT, including Delaney. If this had not blown up in their faces. Would they be speaking out now? Hell no.

2. Acknowledging and highlighting the fact that this is not just a BA problem is the "cop out." Pretending that this is not business as usual in the United States for most organizations and most professional people is the "cop out."

[quote] As for trying to preserve their careers, EVERYBODY at BA is doing that. Every single one. Well, maybe not Gaby, she seems to have avoided it, but everyone is concerned about their careers. Not at all sure why Carla got singled out here by you, and by the ladies on Twitter.

I addressed Molly Baz's statement and her attempt at self preservation. Carla co-signed Baz's statement, the "toxic" culture and her desire to be an agent for change. Therefore, I addressed her co-sign and her statement. When the rest issue self serving statements about they're desires to be change agents. I address those.

[quote] Anthony Bourdain made some comment on his blog about how Knowlton and Sanchez must have had a "schoolyard fight" which would explain why Knowlton was so nasty to Sanchez, but I don't know if that was literal or not.

[quote] Our pal Aaron Sanchez barely avoided being cut on the Next Iron Chef since according to Bourdain, Alton “Knowlton seems not to have disclosed a prior schoolyard incident with a young Aaron ‘El Guapo’ Sanchez — in which Sanchez (it would appear) bullied him mercilessly. He seemed unnaturally eager to send him packing.”

Its obviously an analogy. Sanchez and Knowlton grew up in different states. Bourdain was calling out Knowlton's poor behavior. You took that analogy and decided that the Hispanic with the tattoos "mercilessly bullied" poor sweet innocent Knowlton. Knowlton is just a dick because that is who he is.

Nobody said Knowlton wasn’t a dick.

Are all the people posting on here?

Hipster chef drama...manufactured or encouraged for interest?

[quote]Get Off Of Carla's Clit

Gross. You obsess over one BA personality and then accuse everyone else of doing the same.

Look, I did the ignore-dar trick, I didn't find all those posts about other chefs you said you called out just as often as Carla, so bye-bye now.

I don't think it's manufactured, R187, It happened because a Puerto Rican cookbook author had a run-in with Rapoport, and then someone found an old pic of Rapoport dressed up as a "Puerto Rican" for Halloween, and went from there.

BA magazine and BA videos are produced by two different companies within Conde Nast. What would happen is you'd get someone like Brad Leone who would be Test Kitchen Manager for the magazine, and his salary included video appearances where he would make a recipe that appeared in the magazine, and those videos wouldn't get compensated separately. But when he got his own show called "It's Alive," that was a separate contract with the video entertainment division, and he DID get compensated separately for those.

Someone like Sohla doesn't have her own show; therefore, no contract for video appearances. They're paid for with her editor's salary. That maybe kind of made sense back when editors and managers were only making a handful of videos a year.

Once their videos got popular, they started creating the separate contracts for BA shows, but giving them to mostly straight white people. They also didn't acknowledge that many on the BA office staff were not being paid despite now being in a LOT of videos as sidekicks, extra characters, even significantly helping the star talent.

This was going to happen eventually, I don't think it was staged. If it hadn't come out this way, we'd probably have seen a mass exodus from BA eventually, and a longform tell-all article explaining everything going on behind the scenes.

[quote]You took that analogy and decided that the Hispanic with the tattoos "mercilessly bullied" poor sweet innocent Knowlton.

I did no such thing, you fucking troll. I was quoting Anthony Bourdain's blog. God, you're insufferable.

[quote] I did no such thing, you fucking troll. I was quoting Anthony Bourdain's blog. God, you're insufferable.

[quote] Gross. You obsess over one BA personality and then accuse everyone else of doing the same. Look, I did the ignore-dar trick, I didn't find all those posts about other chefs you said you called out just as often as Carla, so bye-bye now.

You appear to have some special needs that I am unable to accommodate. I'm sorry about that.

No matter what the company does, the BA TK videos have been ruined for me. People did a good job of pretending to like each other and enjoy each others' food. Clearly a lie. Rapoport seems like an asshole and they're well rid of him. Delaney and Brad are right-wing jerks. Amiel Stanek is a dork who received favored treatment he did not deserve. Some woman on twitter is claiming Carla is passive-aggressive and a bad boss. Sohla appears to hate her coworkers. Andy was accused of backstabbing some woman. Chris is under fire for cultural appropriation and disrespecting Leah Chase's recipe. There's obviously an agenda to get some people to quit--you can see it on this thread--and elevate others.

You know what? None of these people are likable or entertaining. If I want to be around people who hate each other, I can go to work.

Interesting comments from R192. I only ever looked at those videos to find out about the recipe or the technique. I found all of them annoying except Carla, because she seems authoritative, and Brad, because I want him to fuck my brains out. All of the others were trying waaaaay too hard to be quirky and cute internet personalities. And now it has blown up in their faces.

If the directorial/editorial choice for these videos had been to make excellent and informative instruction on recipes and techniques, much of this would not have happened.

[quote]Delany and Brad are right-wing jerks.

What did Brad do (or say)?

Brad is not a right-wing jerk, R194. That poster obviously did all of his research on Twitter.

R193 you should, or maybe you shouldn’t, visit the bonappetit subreddits to see how many people are insanely obsessed with the TK people, some to an unhealthy degree

(r194) Brad is not a right-wing jerk. He's obviously a born and raised northern NJ guy of Italian descent. The BA videos make fun of the way he pronounces words which is obviously okay since he's a white, straight male. I wonder what the response would be if he was a person of color? I like Brad, he talks like my dad did.

Delaney has Bernie Sanders decals on his Mac, you idiot.

Brad owns guns and is a hunter so maybe that's where people get the idea he's a right-winger.

Stanek has the Bernie decal. Delaney supports Bernie because he was Type I Diabetes.

Bon Appetit posting YouTube videos again. Chris Morocco making meatballs. He looks thinner and a little wary. He’s saying “like” less.

Chrissy Makes Fried Oyster Mushrooms | From the Home Kitchen | Bon Appétit. She has an easy-going personality.

Who is left from the old crew?

Well here is the new crew...