Male actors who slept for roles

Matt Bomer

Darren Criss

Cory Monteith

Ryan Renyolds

Darren Criss. Thread Closed.

I doubt there was much "sleeping" involved.

Yeah, let me watch you sleep boy! Yeah, that’s it! You want to be a star? Now snore!

Hugh Jackman

Katharine Hepburn told Dick Cavett back in 1973 that the men were more in demand than the women.

It may not have been true of her, but it was still surprising to hear her say it.

People like Clark Gable, Gary Cooper, William Holden, Steve McQueen probably hit the casting couch.

Tab Hunter

Mmmm young Jimmy Dean, Brando and Newman.

Any beautiful young man who had an early role with Franco Zeffirelli - I mean in Endless Love in supporting roles alone we have James Spader, Tom Cruise and Ian Ziering.

Pronounced “Eye-un”.

Two people have mentioned Darren Criss. Not saying he hasnt but so many people think he has with no proof. Just cause Ryan Murphy is weirdly enamored with him. He gets like that with both actors and actresses who he casts a lot so does he sleep with women too?

Tom Cruise was never a beauty

I remember their were rumours about Keanu Reeves with Bernardo and Little Buddha.

Could someone please start a "Third of June" thread but with Sinéad O'Connor's version of "Ode to Billie Joe" rather than the original by Bobbie Gentry? Thank you.

Bradley Cooper

Dear OP are you 5? They don't sleep, they have sex.

James van der Beek

Lee Majors

Thomas Jane

Philip Seymour Hoffman and Joe Pesci

Young Brad Pitt looked so delicious and hot. Was he able not to sleep for roles? I bet he looked beautiful when he was in a sleep.

Ok I'll rename the thread: Male actors who fucked for roles.

So this is actually all wish fulfillment only? My Keanu tip is the only one based on a proper rumour from the time

Good lookers with no real formal acting training or family connections to the business are the most likely to have slipped in the back door with their pants off.

Haven’t we all “slept “ for something?

Here ya go, r17...

ALL of them.

I would have, but nobody asked and now I'm over fifty. Oh, well.

Timmy.

R28, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that every male actor had sex with a man, to get a part. If it's an opportunity, which involves sex, men are not shy.

Walter Brennan and Billy Barty

That understudy who took over in the last NY revival of "Pal Joey". Was the original lead so bad? He had won a Tony.

I would think most of the good looking ones have been touched inappropriately. Some even more than that. Remember you can put your hands on someone shelter and it’s harassment

Colto.

Joan Crawford.

Rob Lowe

Cory Haim, unfortunately.

I'm shocked no one's said Zac Efron. And by that I'm not suggesting he has, just saying I'm surprised no one's mentioned him.

I am sure men have sex with Ryan Murphy or his team for parts. So, any good-looking man on his shows. David Corenswet is beautiful.

Tom Cruise was a hooker in NY and NJ. There is no other explanation for his early success.

Keanu, Chris Evans, Lee Majors. Ryan Reynolds, even Clint Eastwood in early days.

Evans started out as a child actor from a theatre family, so I *hope* he didn't have to put out to get his start in show biz.

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The Tom Cruise thing baffles me. Did he have a banging body as a young man? Absolutely. I can see him as a rough trade hooker. But I wonder why David Geffen took to him and paid to have his face fixed to make him a star? Surely at the time there were hundreds of other boys with both tight banging bodies and already handsome faces he could have uplifted. We al know Geffen was constantly surrounded by hot young men, many of whom got favors. Did cruise have some kind of dirt on Geffen from some wild party he attended as a young rent boy? Or was Geffen trying to fulfill some kind of Pygmalion fantasy?

Armie

Henry Willson's clients.

Froy Gutierrez and the rest of Teen Wolf cast.

IN REGARDS TO CRUISE, i can't think of anyone else who had such a "meteoric" fast rise like him... i mean no connections, no money, hardly any experience outside of a high school play and a couple of plays, gets a small speaking role in "endless love" okay, so that's fine, he got lucky with being more then a extra in that movie, but then he gets "taps" from a small barely any lines role to a prominent role when the original actor for his role got let go for some reason, and then he does outsiders with another leading role in that ensemble and then he gets another leading role in "losin it" and finally hits stardom with "risky business" and then of course superstardom with top gun 3 years later... what i'm getting at , is he went from literally nobody in 1980 to a star in 3 years with "risky business" and a superstar with top gun in 1986...

from nobody to world's biggest star in 6 years???? literally with his resume or lack thereof how did he manage to EVEN GET A AUDITION/AUDITIONS to be in any of these early roles, much less cast in prominent speaking roles? seriously! 99.9% actors with his lack of a resume, training and so on wouldn't get a agent that would even send them out for such roles, they wouldn't get a audition to be cast and they would be lucky if they were getting hired for regional theater or dinner theater roles ESPECIALLY in and around NEW YORK CITY!...

yes, cruise was attractive and eager and super hungry for fame and i guess already had magnetism and charisma on film, but it does make one wonder how he never really had to struggle, got success that fast and in between films in these early roles made enough to live on in a apartment in nyc, when he wasn't staying with mom and step dad in jersey, and making money waiting tables and maintenance man of his apartment building (according to his biographies)....

i truly think biographers have never truly truly explored his early years from 1980 to 1983.... i've never read how he lived in a roach infested, rat infested apartment or had to share a apartment with 4 other people, or had to scrounge for food at various places, or worked 60 plus hours and finding time to audition to survive and so on and so on... i do know that his stepfather gave him some money when he moved to nyc but i think it was only 500 or 5000 thousand dollars i don't remember and that cruise was to have paid him back if he didnt make it in 10 years or less , whatever the amount it wasn't that much even in early 80's cost of living.. ..

if he was a escort, where are any of his clients who have never talked who have proof of some sort?...

When you've got it, you've got it, baby.

Tom was good at milking cock with his ass. Riding men bare like a raw cowboy.

No doubt Tom Cruise gave up his ass to Franco Zeffirelli. Zeffirelli was a notorious chicken hawk.

Teeny tiny tight asshole and cries like a little girl when he's being fucked.

Wilfred Brimley in the '80s. Every gay producer in Hollywood got a turn in that sweet, sweet ass.

Timothee Chalamet

This thread belongs to Travolta.

Colin Farrell in the early years.

Tom Hardy in his early days too.

Rock Hudson in the early days, though I doubt he had any issues with it.

Alain Delon

Helmut Berger, Joe Delasandro

Vincent Kartheiser

(at least according to James Woods, who might not be the most reliable source)

Brad Pitt's rise was just as meteoric, r48. Thelma and Louise then BOOM! 💥 It would make sense if he had some acting talent, but that isn't the case. It all culminated with an Oscar in reward for all the money he's made for the entire industry.

Sam Heughan

Henry Cavill

Tom Hiddleston

Brad Pitt lived with some soap writer Thom Racina when he first got to Hollywood. He writes about it on his blog - though it sounds platonic I'm not entirely convinced.

As an elder gay, I am always intrigued with the whole Henry Willson school of star making. I'm not talking about the recent Ryan Murphy train wreck version but the actual facts. Obviously, he was gay and many of his clients were a victim or his probably unwelcome advances.

But, I wonder about the few men who seemed to have sneaked through without ever being label as bi or gay. How did they justify doing what if took to get 'a head'. (No pun intended). I'm talking about the late Chad Everett, Doug McClure, Clint Walker, John Saxon, Troy Donahue, Ty Hardin and John Derek. All of these guys were never officially labeled as being gay or even bi and yet they must have had to put out for Willson. Did everyone block it out or just consider it a cost of doing business?

Froy Gutierrez is the new Colton Haynes.

What's this about Vincent Kartheiser and James Woods?

Brad Pitt actually knocked around Hollywood all throughout the 80s without much success. It took him about 10 years to break through.

I hate that ever Hollywood gossip thread on DL now is spammed by mentions of this irrelevant Froy kid who is not even a star or an up and coming name. He's not being touted for any big roles in the future and seems only to pop up on DL.

R63... clint walker was indeed a client of henry wilson, but he DID NOT put out for him and made that known at the beginning nor did walker put out for anyone for that matter, hence why his career never reached the heights it could have ( i mean seriously he should have had the career that rock hudson had, since he was handsomer and better built then hudson) and why his career in hollywood was for the most part short lived and he retired to live quietly out of la la land. walker refused to "play the hollywood game"...

don't know about the others you mentioned on your list though...there HAS been rumors and allegations about the others on your list as either gay, bi, closeted or having put out, but NOTHING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in any way about any of this in regards to Clint WALKER.... the man was THEE epitome of midwestern values, integrity and being quote "square"...which actually is a great thing.

R60... actually pit had a good resume before he got "thelma and louise"..... a number of tv shows as a regular, tv movies and movies.... cruise got a starring role in a huge hit and became a superstar with risky business after only 3 years graduating from high school and a nobody....

his resume was painfully thin, so much that as i stated before how he even got a audition for risky business or have a powerful enough agent to even get him as a client is "amazing"?.... geffen has gone on record that he had seen cruise in "taps" and that he wanted him as oppose to the many? others up for that role, including the original actor which was supposed to be kevin anderson! in geffen's own words, he wanted someone to play Joel, who was someone he (and others?) would want to fuck... years later, he stated in a interview off record that "despite contrary opinion, cruise is the straightest guy you can imagine"..

From the LA times about Another Day In Paradise:

A major bone of contention for Woods was Clark's friendship with the film's other co-star, 19-year-old Vincent Kartheiser, which Woods says reflected the mentor-protege friendship between Woods' and Kartheiser's characters in the film, though the young actor's manager Mike Cutler says there was no such bond.

"I'm not really sure what Jimmy's talking about," says Clark, when asked about his relationship with Kartheiser.

No Penalty for Showing Up Late

Woods was particularly upset when his young co-star showed up late on the set and Clark did not take him to task. "When someone shows up three hours late, it's a humiliation and a violation of professionalism," he says. "We weren't able to shoot a very important scene properly because of it." (The scene is one in which Woods' character explains some vital plot points.)

Cutler admits his client was late a couple of times, but mainly because he sometimes got lost trying to find the location. (Kartheiser, who has acted in movies since age 5, lives in Minnesota and was unavailable for comment.) While Chin admits Kartheiser was not always on time, he calls the problem "a cultural difference" between the young actor's approach and that of the more seasoned Woods.

"Vincent's style is loose and improvisational," Chin said. "He didn't wear any makeup in the film so he didn't feel the need to show up at his call time."

But that was just Act 1 of the saga. After the tumultuous shoot wrapped in January, Clark moved to the editing room and nearly wound up forfeiting all his hard work. "The stress got to me," Clark admits. "I've taken a lot of drugs in my life. After the shoot I took some. I'm an addict. I have a tendency to do that."

r70

There's also an interview where Woods implies much more strongly that there was a sexual relationship between Kartheiser and Clark; I'll look if I can find it.

Vincent showed his cute butt in that movie.

Here it is:

[quote] Another problem was with co-star Vincent Kartheiser. Woods began, "Larry met Vincent and took an instant liking—[turning to Chin] you do it, you do this, I can’t handle this properly."

[quote] Chin replied, "Oh thank you, very much!"

[quote] Woods added, "You’re the Yale lawyer, slither around this, partner."

[quote] Tactfully, Chin explained, "I don’t know to what my colleague is referring.

There have been rumors for years that Chris Hemsworth (and Tom Hiddleston too) went above and beyond with Kenneth Branagh to secure the role of Thor. There is some anticodail evidence to support this. Hemworth avoids talking about the audition process or how he got the part, and after the first movie was a hit that cemented Hemsworth's career, he refused to work with Branagh on the second film.

Tom Cruise's early years have never really been looked into, as others have said. It was very odd that a kid from NJ with absolutely no showbiz connections got to the top so fast. As the above poster said, how did he even get auditions when he had no experience and connections?

Who is the kid at R49?

Brandon Routh.

Kevin Spacey "befriended" Colin Farrell

He also "befriended" Colin Morgan

😂 I was about to call you out on your "bullshit" r59/r73. But Woods really went there 😂 Is Clark known to be gay?

When you say "slept for roles" I think of elderly actors who actually fell asleep, like Fred Thompson during filming Hunt for Red October, that kind of thing.

Rock Hudson was sleeping with a big shot at Universal

You were wrong then, weren't you r80.

Damon and Affleck...to get their GOOD WILL HUNTING script sold? One or both of them did the deed with Gus Van Sant.

Didn’t Collin Farrell sleep with Spacey to get ahead? So gross

Timothee dated Lourdes and let Madonna give him handjobs. He is gay and closeted now

Brad let Racina blow him for rent and access.

"Timothee dated Lourdes and let Madonna give him handjobs. He is gay and closeted now"

Only according to the Entertainment Lawyer.

Fuck, I would have gotten down on my knees and done the deed for a role. I love to suck cock so the part would have been a bonus.

Is it really so hard to believe Madonna would do this? I don’t think so

Do we think Timmy bragged to his high school friends about getting a hand/blow/rim job from his girlfriend’s famous skanky mom?

Is it really so hard to believe the Entertainment Lawyer would make shit up?

"Do we think Timmy bragged to his high school friends about getting a hand/blow/rim job from his girlfriend’s famous skanky mom?"

Well, it never happened, so.....

Not on this one

Can we get back to actual gossip and not stuff the Entertainment Lawyer made up in his mom's basement?

Can’t somebody just ask Madonna for a description of Timmy’s dick?

Madonna has bragged about this at parties. She is a vile woman

[quote]Damon and Affleck...to get their GOOD WILL HUNTING script sold? One or both of them did the deed with Gus Van Sant.

I just can't see Affleck doing anything with another man, no matter how drunk he got.

Damon, on the other hand......

[quote]Didn’t Collin Farrell sleep with Spacey to get ahead? So gross

Farrell also slept with Jared Leto for free.

Eric Bana said NO to Brad Pitt’s overtures

[quote]Fuck, I would have gotten down on my knees and done the deed for a role. I love to suck cock so the part would have been a bonus.

The problem is that the power brokers in Hollywood you have to suck off are the most disgusting men on Earth. Think Scott Rudin and Harvey Weinstein. That's what most of them look like. It's not hot guys at ALL.

[quote]Farrell also slept with Jared Leto for free.

Here's a little reminder of what Jared Leto looked like 20 years ago. I think most everybody would've fucked him.

Have we talked about Clint Eastwood and his "mentor" Arthur Lubin yet?

Francis X. Bushman

"Madonna has bragged about this at parties. She is a vile woman"

Maybe in Narnia

R75... cruise was even hanging out at studio 54 with the likes of warhold and others when he was what 2 years out of high school? how in the world was he even ALLOWED inside that building or ALLOWED to hang out with these famous people? like i stated previously, not only how did he get the auditions, but how did he even get a GREAT powerful agent to get to even audition for his early roles?...

name me another actor how did a high school play, a dinner club play, was sent out for some commercials and not getting them, with no training from a acting school, get a agent, powerful and connected enough to get him a audition to get a role in "losing it" or "taps".... "endless love" was a bit of luck that it was a small speaking role and he was in the right time and the right place as well as the same happening in "taps" because the original actor for his role was fired and cruise happen to be in the right place at the right time again. AFTER the success of risky business he could call his shots for sure, but still he was woefully inexperienced to have continued success until top gun truly made him a superstar where he has remained...

99.9% of male actors wouldn't get these early auditions, wouldn't get a powerful agent to get them these auditions and would have been told you need to bulk up your resume with plays and training and then i'll send you out for commercials and film roles, in fact, one would think that with his lack of success in the commercials he was sent out for and didn't get such a agent would have dropped him, they certainly wouldn't have had him audition for film roles one would think?!.

99% of male actors takes 10 years or so to have success as a working actor, nothing more.. cruise went from nobody to 3 years star and 3 years later superstar! granted his success from risky business to top gun had him deserving that success with top gun and thereafter, it's the 1980 to 1983 years from nobody to risky business stardom that is in question..

his "best friend" the sociopath leader of scientology i bet brainwashed cruise into thinking he indeed was special because i mean look how fast and quickly he became a success in hollywood!.. speaking of miscavige and the allegations of cruise early years before fame, interesting that it has been reported by former high level cultie tom devocht that he was indeed one of the persons who in person was there when miscavige and his wife shelley (not seen in public for over 12 years and counting) like to stay up late and read outloud and/or watch the secret videos filmed of cruise and his auditing information...

it's devocht who in 2 different vanity fair magazine issues about scientology stated that miscavige would both watch the secretly filmed videos and read out loud the transcripts while laughing and drinking expensive scotch to the small "in" group and miscavige would "roll his eyes and say out loud "geez, can you believe it!" and shelly would 'blush" and say out loud "that's gross!"....

so who knows what they were talking about, devocht knows but has said he will never state publicly what he saw or heard beyond these reactions of miscavige and his wife... perhaps the information indeed confirms the allegations and rumors of cruise early years in nyc before he became famous?..

Man, the entire cast of Teen Wolf!

Must've been such a crazy set with all those gayling starlets and their raging hormones, sending dick pics to each other, and banging non-stop!!! What a blast to be young and dumb and full of cum in Hollywood in 2011!

R74 Yeah, the rumors around Chris and Tom getting on all fours for Branagh have been circulating for years. My question is did Branagh get Liam too, because Liam auditioned for Thor too.

Did Branagh ever officially come out? I'm too lazy to check.

Keanu had a similar trajectory as Tom - from boy toy to A lister. David Geffen groomed both of them

Joel Schumacher was a notorious groomer - The Lost Boys, etc

Bryan Singer including Brad Renfro age 14

Just thinking about having sex with Geffen or Joel Schumacher makes me want to throw up. God, what some people will do.

There was a rumor that Renfro got the role in Apt Pupil after Bryan Singer persuaded him to go on a "vacation" with him

Pitt hit on Eric Bana? Wow. I am not surprised. As hot as Bana is, there’s not a gay bone in his body...pun intended.

They destroyed poor Brad Renfro. Ruined him.

R68, Rock and Clint appeared together in "Send Me No Flowers".

I'm sure Tom Cruise did it, but it's not really a surprise that he was a big superstar pretty quickly. It's happened to a lot of people, Timothee just the most recent. Some people are luckier than others. Tom is handsome (yes, he is), he has a hot body, and good intensity.

I'm sure there are plenty of guys who had sex with the right people, who didn't become Tom Cruise.

Brad Renfro: The Knoxville, Tennessee native was only 10-years-old when he was discovered by director Joel Schumacher to play Mark Sway, a young witness in a Mafia case, in his 1994 movie The Client.

Known for casting young actors, Schumacher helped actors like Colin Farrell, Kiefer Sutherland, and Matthew McConaughey to launch careers.

If I had met Bryan Singer when I was horny teenager, new to Hollywood, I would've shown up at his house with an inflatable pool toy, a bottle of lube, and a clean and pristine shaved hole!!!

[quote]But Woods really went there 😂 Is Clark known to be gay?

If you google image search Clark, you get a bunch of B&W photos of young boys with their dicks hanging out.

[quote]But Woods really went there 😂 Is Clark known to be gay?

If you google image search Clark, you get a bunch of B&W photos of young boys with their dicks hanging out.

Keanu Reeves has had a lot of male friends in high places.

Is anyone in Hollywood decent?

Unfortunately having sex is a big part of the casting process. Especially for younger unknown actors trying to get a part in a big movie. This also applies to female casting agents who take a male actor to “dinner.”

My biggest objection is over children, including parents who pimp out their kids to pedophiles in show business.

R121, is anyone in the red states decent?

[quote] If I had met Bryan Singer when I was horny teenager, new to Hollywood, I would've shown up at his house with an inflatable pool toy, a bottle of lube, and a clean and pristine shaved hole!!!

If you were old enough that your hole actually required shaving, Singer would have slammed the door in your face.

Actually R115, It was a female casting director that "found" him. She also "found" Eddie Furlong. Both Brad and Eddie are poster boys for what happens to kid actors.

R108, I would say that Singer did need to groom Brad.

[quote]I'm sure Tom Cruise did it, but it's not really a surprise that he was a big superstar pretty quickly. It's happened to a lot of people, Timothee just the most recent.

That Timothee twat is only a superstar in your addled mind. Most people have no fucking clue who he is.

r125 except I doubt the female casting director has been accused of child abuse. Singer has.

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I'll do whatever it takes to get the role of Rip Van Winkle.

R129, who is that?

Maybe the casting agent was part of the sex trafficking. Are they hiring?

That is true R128. But my post and the post I referenced had nothing to do with Singer.

R131

Chord Overstreet

Refro was such a sad case.

Didn't Warren Beatty "sleep" with Tennessee Williams for a role?

Williams said he declined Warren's offer, but I don't believe him.

Even Jesus wouldn't decline to blow Warren in his prime.

I know i'm in the minority, but I've never thought Warren Beatty was gorgeous in his youth. Cute, yes, but not exceptionally attractive. I just never got the fawning over his looks.

Ben Hardy

Some interesting observations on Ben Hardys relationship and casting by Bryan Singer in this tweet....

Timberlake

Bryan Singer is so gross now, but back in the early 2000s when Colin Farrell gave his dick to him, he wasn't too bad.

R107 No and he's married to a woman. But his bisexuality is very well known and very whispered about.

It’s sad so many modern people enabled sex trade . Can you imagine Drake hanging out with and sleeping with Jakob Tremblay? No. People would be outraged. Hopefully there is some evolution.

Gary Cooper, John Wayne

[Quote] Froy Gutierrez and the rest of Teen Wolf cast.

Bullshit.

[Quote] Timberlake

With Lou??

[quote]Keanu had a similar trajectory as Tom - from boy toy to A lister. David Geffen groomed both of them

Not really. Keanu was knocking around for years doing bit parts on tv, commercials, kids tv shows and TV movies before he ever got Dangerous Liaisons which lead to Bill & Ted, Point Break and eventually Speed years later.

It's like when someone said to Jessica Chastain that she appeared out of nowhere and she responded by saying she'd been around for years and no one noticed her. Which is true, she was working quite a bit before Zero Dark Thirty she just never did anything remarkable enough to propel her forward.

Tom Cruise on the other hand is a different story.

r76 Zaquisha. Pre nose job.

Helmut Berger

I still think Keanu getting Dangerous Liasons is suspicious. I highly doubt he aced the audition. I know Uma had a thinner resume but she could actually act.

Keanu was dreadful in DANGEROUS LIAISONS, so it's anyone's guess.

I'm not a big Uma fan, but she was fine.

Uma probably slept too.

Uma sleeps IN her roles.

Poor Brad Renfro. Seriously, those guys should be in jail.

A friend of mine went to a Bryan Singer party in London and he said, although he saw nothing, he noticed how young the guys were and he, at 24, felt out of place because he was the oldest there. I imagine he saw nothing because he was considered too old by their standards. Gross.

Did Brad’s parents have any idea what was going on?

R54 and R30, according to the criteria outlined by R25 he doesn't fit the casting couch cliche: he's good looking, he's had training (and very good one at La Guardia) and has family connections.

R156: Good looking. Yeah right.

People still don’t notice Jessica Chastain

Do NOT feel sorry for any young man at a Bryan Singer party. You act like they are doe eyed virgins fresh off the bus. Any dude who ends up in Singer's pool is a slick hustler who knows EXACTLY what is going on!!! He's there to negotiate and is willing to use his hole to complete the transaction. ANYTHING to be rich and famous!

R158: The public doesn't give a shit about her but she and her team will never stop trying to make her a superstar.

Froy?

.....

"Helmut Berger"

He "befriended" Luchino Visconti. Just like Alain Delon (who is now a homophobe who makes anti-gay comments)

Penn Badgley looks like the man who assaulted me when I was a teenager.

What about James Franco? He also has connection to Geffen, who is a really disgusting person.

I always hear how horrible and 'disgusting' David Geffen is but there has never been evidence or proof. What makes him so reprehensible?

Ruthless and cruel as a business man and sex traffic with minors

Why hasn't he been caught like Epstein?

I am hoping he will.

Word is that Geffen allegedly uses very shady people to enforce silence.

Frightening r169

I see the QAnon loonies have arrived. This thread is supposed to be about the casting couch, not sex trafficking.

It’s intertwined r171.

[quote]Keanu was dreadful in DANGEROUS LIAISONS, so it's anyone's guess.

I agree, he was dreadful. I was just saying his trajectory wasn't the same as Tom who leapt up there pretty quickly.

I leave you with Grace Randolph expressing her eternal hatred for Jessica Chastain.

Grace Randolph has trouble speaking. Stick with comics, Grace, and leave the on camera to .Chastain.

R161 Floy-doy-floy-doy-floy-doy- Floy!

Jessica is 43. It’s never going to happen with her as much as she tries.

I have a friend who is a Canadian actor (he's done American and Canadian TV/film and was on a lead on a popular comedy show that recently went off the air). He's straight and claims he's never put out for a role, but that he's been propositioned many times and basically all the really big stars today have basically all done what they needed to do to get that kind of fame.

r176, she's been nominated for multiple oscars. She's already happened.

Awkward

Looks like Tom didn't mind it. But Chris... is still annoyed.

Jessica Chastain is the Penelope Ann Miller of today. They are two actresses whose career trajectories are baffling and they came out of nowhere! Miller couldn't keep the momentum, so clearly, someone she was fucking was putting her in leading rolls, and she probably got sick putting out to some gross Wienstien type (or Weinstien, himself). Whenever she would pop up in a movie, I used to lean over and whisper in my friend's ear, "Humph. She must do anal."

R181: From 2011-2013 Chastain was hyped as the next big thing. Then it was one flop right after the other. How she became famous is indeed baffling. She never shuts the fuck up about gender inequality. When abuser Matthew Newton was hired to write the script for her next movie, she shockingly had no comment.

R9 I have a friend with two parents in showbiz. They both started out as actors, before going into other jobs and both swore that the "casting couch" was worse for men. They steered both their kids (a boy and a girl) away from the business because of how gross it is.

R181 Miller banged every one of her costars, even ones that were married/attached.

r182, you sound like a Republican. What is wrong about speaking out?

R73 I don't believe Woods. I don't think that Larry Clarke is gay because most of his movies are obviously something made by a pervy straight guy. His next film Bully has a close-up of Bijou Phillips' underwear-clad vag.

R185 I'm not 182, but I think the issue is with her hypocrisy. She's branded herself as a feminist warrior, but is silent when the abuser has a connection to her.

[quote] I leave you with Grace Randolph expressing her eternal hatred for Jessica Chastain.

At least it wasn't Joyce Randolph.

Trixie could cut a bitch.

R125 What's this woman's name?

Furlong was also molested by his on set tutor and people thought it was nbd because it was female-on-male abuse.

Kevin Spacey helped Colin Farrel land his first movie which he starred in and then after that Joel Schumacher casted him in his first leading role in Tiger Land.

R186. I've worked with Larry Clarke. He is GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY! And gross.

R179 & R180 Tom is allegedly closeted himself so he may not have minded the attention from Kenneth Branagh. Chris, however, reportedly refused to work with Branagh again.

R191 I am genuinely surprised because his films, particularly Bully and Kids, seemed like movies he made to creep on girls.

I never thought Tom Cruise wassexyan d. I did not like his stubby body but he was in a great film, that gives anyone a leg up in Hollywood. Geffen gave him a hit film. That was all he needed.

Keanu was the rough trade that Geffen really liked, he could not control the junky. David was infatuated with Keanu Reeves and he wanted to get him straight.

Larry Clark is confusing...maybe he was just a pervert?

r191 NOPE! He GAY!!! I was so uncomfortable watching him with all these pubescent boys on set. You think Bryan Singer is a lech??? Bryan Singer is a chaste sunday school teacher next to LC!!!

R191 - you've worked with him yet you can't spell his name correctly?

I know a lot of people who can't even spell their friends' names correctly, of course you can work with someone without knowing how to spell their name

[quote]Tom is allegedly closeted himself so he may not have minded the attention from Kenneth Branagh. Chris, however, reportedly refused to work with Branagh again.

Hell, back in 2010 I'd have been happy to sleep with Branagh, no high paying job necessary. I don't imagine he'd have had to apply much pressure if an actor were so inclined and unattached. I can see how newlywed and presumably heterosexual Hemsworth might have been less than thrilled with the prospect, however.

You hoes betta not say my name.

r197 He didn't hire me. I was hired by the production company, I didn't even know who the director was until I showed up for work on the day in question. That's the way hollywood works. You don't know who you're going to be working with. When I saw all the underage boys, I was skeeved out. As I talked to them, I realized that that they were (potential) rough trade and not "actors". I was grossed out. Everything about the shoot was "questionable". Not just to me, but others that I talked to.

[quote]IN REGARDS TO CRUISE, i can't think of anyone else who had such a "meteoric" fast rise like him... i mean no connections, no money, hardly any experience outside of a high school play and a couple of plays, gets a small speaking role in "endless love" okay, so that's fine, he got lucky with being more then a extra in that movie, but then he gets "taps" from a small barely any lines role to a prominent role when the original actor for his role got let go for some reason, and then he does outsiders with another leading role in that ensemble and then he gets another leading role in "losin it" and finally hits stardom with "risky business" and then of course superstardom with top gun 3 years later... what i'm getting at , is he went from literally nobody in 1980 to a star in 3 years with "risky business" and a superstar with top gun in 1986...

[quote]from nobody to world's biggest star in 6 years???? literally with his resume or lack thereof how did he manage to EVEN GET A AUDITION/AUDITIONS to be in any of these early roles, much less cast in prominent speaking roles? seriously! 99.9% actors with his lack of a resume, training and so on wouldn't get a agent that would even send them out for such roles, they wouldn't get a audition to be cast and they would be lucky if they were getting hired for regional theater or dinner theater roles ESPECIALLY in and around NEW YORK CITY!...

[quote]if he was a escort, where are any of his clients who have never talked who have proof of some sort?...

R48, I'm certainly not defending Cruise but if he had slept his way to the top (and I'm not saying he didn't), wouldn't those stories have been out there by now? The guy has been a star for over 30 years. If he got there on his back, would we really be saying "No one knows anything about how Tom Cruise got there. No one's ever said a word"?? I mean if we know and have heard stories about all of these other stars (JLaw, etc.) who allegedly got there the same way, what makes Cruise so special that people in the industry wouldn't have spilled the tea on him, too? I just can't imagine everybody is so afraid of his psycho religion that they wouldn't have talked by now.

By no means do I think he's a great actor who got to the top purely on his acting talent, just saying the speculation that he fucked his way there just seems, at this point, possibly a bit far-fetched given that no one seems to know anything about it. Or was David Geffen really his sole benefactor and dropped the world at his feet?

Cruise - Scientology connections?

David Kross

The stories about Tom and Geffen have been out there for years. But publicly they claim they are just friends and Geffen has said Tom is “100% straight,” which is a lie.

R205, link please!

R204, it’s hard to resist good German sausage.

Slept where, OP?

Geffen is so powerful and his tentacles reach far and wide...he can shut down rumors with a phone call.

R203... cruise was a star then a superstar before he ever even HEARD of scientology much less before he got involved in it.. he got involved around after 1986 when he was married to mimi rogers herself a cultie who got him involved in it.. interesting, how she the one who was in before he was and got him in, has herself left it years and years ago and yet cruise remains all these decades later?....

R205.. there was a interview years ago where david geffen was interviewed and after the interview ended he was still taking and the interviewer asked him about cruise and that is when he stated that "contrary to some public opinion, tom cruise is the straightest man you can imagine". comment and i believe he made this comment and this interview in front of a small audience....

[quote]I don't think that Larry Clarke is gay because most of his movies are obviously something made by a pervy straight guy. His next film Bully has a close-up of Bijou Phillips' underwear-clad vag.

Bully is very homoerotic. It even shows Nick Stahl's cock.

Ryan Idol said that he and Tom Cruise were roommates when they were struggling in LA. Now he's in the slammer for hitting his girlfriend with a toilet tank lid. What a life.

[quote]You hoes betta not say my name. [quote]—C. Tatum

Too many of us have stuffed singles into C.'s waistband to complain about [italic]him[/italic] sleeping his way to the middle!

R199 Branagh is attractive so I would have had no issue sleeping with him for fun (which I think Tom H. did). Chris Hemsworth is straight and if the rumors are true, he only did stuff to get the lead in the film. Once it made him a star, he had the power to get rid of Branagh. I'm guessing agents put a lot of pressure on actors to and probably encouraged Chris to do it. I believe he changed his agent after Thor too.

Did Conan sleep with Lorne Michaels to get Late Night. It does seem like one of the most unlikely success stories, especially since Conan had never hosted anything before.

I know a woman who lived in the same apartment building as Tom Cruise in the very early 80s, before he was super-famous. She said he was always at the Catholic church down the street. He attended all the masses and other things. She said he was always alone, too. She never saw him with anybody.

R211 I remember, but there is way more pervy straight content. The only gay stuff was the scene with Stahl nude and the creepy chicken hawk, Lisa Connelly (played by Rachel Miner) telling Marty Puccio (played by Brad Renfro) that people thought he and Bobby Kent were lovers, and, of course, Bobby raping Ali Willis (Bijou Phillips), while watching gay porn. Most of the pervy content was of Bijou Phillips, who is never fully dressed. Though, I may have noticed it more, because Bijou Phillips is one of the most unappealing people that I've ever seen, and I'm not one of those gays disgusted by women. She's just gross. It's not just the character either because I find her repulsive in everything, but Bully really sticks out because the camera really pervs on her in it.

I grew up in Florida and remember the murder happened. There really were rumors that Puccio and Kent had a sexual relationship, though I'm not sure if that's true. The move changed stuff that I thought should've been left in because it explain a lot about the dynamics of their relationships with each other. For example, Kent's family was middle class, his killers were from poor/working class, Connelly was overweight, which was one of the things she was bullied for.

NO WAY, NOW HOW IF CRUISE WAS EVER A "ROOMMATE" OF A GAY PORN STAR (RYAN IDOL) that this wouldn't have come out (no pun intended) years and years ago by a biographer!...

Tom Cruise started erasing his past as soon as he could. Relationships like Cher, Mimi, Rebecca, Nicole, Penelope, Katie - every single one an actress - were FAKE

R218, since half your sentence was in caps, I can only speculate YOU'RE A SCIENTOLOGIST!

Alexander Skarsgard was originally cast as Thor and dropped last minute under mysterious circumstances and Chris Hemsworth later refused to ever work with Branagh again ( after having to do the casting couch). There were also casting couch rumours about Richard Madden and Kenneth Branagh ( 2015 Cinderella movie). Also Ken allegedly has/had? a thing with an australien actor named Adam Garcia who had a few roles in Branagh's plays and movies.

Hmmm, R221...is there ANY proof of ANY of those four allegations of yours?

R222 is Kenneth Branagh.

R221 I remember Garcia getting some buzz when he was in Coyote Ugly, then his career going nowhere.

A very young Christian Bale played the squire in in Branagh's (excellent) version of Henry V and appeared with him in Swing Kids. I wonder if Kenny ever had a go at him?

According to the old A-list gossip site, Branagh used the casting couch when he was coming up too.

R223=R221

Anyone on this thread doubting the extent of David Geffen's power--since the 70s, now--and his involvement in "shutting down" inconvenient talk....

In 2000, a well-regarded gay journalist named Tom King wrote an unauthorized bio of Geffen called THE OPERATOR....

Geffen started out cooperating with King, but things got ugly....

A couple of years later, Tom King died suddenly, unexpectedly.

He was in good health and 39 years old.

This is my first time hearing Kenneth Branagh might be gay. Wasn't he married to Emma Thompson who he left for Helena Bonham-Carter?

From Wikipedia:

[quote]Branagh is a Christian, and noted that he became "much more religious" after listening to Sir Laurence Olivier's dramatic reading of the Bible every morning in preparation for his role as Olivier in My Week With Marilyn

So he's religious and whore at the same time?

Yes, R229. Exactly.

R229 Yes. He cheated on Thompson. I heard he used the casting couch/seduced anyone both male and female to get ahead when he was young, but never that he was gay.

Back when Brannaugh was just hitting the big time, I heard him described as "ambitiosexual". Attracted to anyone who could help his career.

Uggh. I find Brannaugh so repellent in every way. And such a vastly overrated talent as both actor and director.

He's fine.

Anyone lucky enough to get Chris Hemsworth is alright in my book. Skasgard is not that good looking in my opinion (I’m in the minority).

Meanwhile, the studio basically begged Chris Evans to take on Captain America. He even turned it down and the studio came back hat in hand.

So Hemsworth is straight but agreed to sleep with Branagh. Was he that desperate?

If the Branagh stuff is true I guess that explains why Sergei Polunin got cast in the Murder on the Orient Express remake

R237 have you seen Chris’ new 20 million dollar compound in Australia? Whatever he had to do for that roll was 100% worth it based on his Marvel checks. I’d say that most straight guys would have suck 5 dicks dicked and bottomed (bareback) if offers sick a life changing opportunity Chris’, especially an actor.

Did Wes Bently sleep with Kevin Spacey to get the role in American Beauty? I always wondered because he came out of nowhere.

Victor Garber “helped” Bradley Cooper

Bradley Cooper “helped” Lucky Blue

Franco Zeffirelli “helped” Tom Cruise

Ian McKellan and Bryan Singer are not too far apart

I passed out drunk while filming roles. Does that count?

R220... sorry but i'm MAJORLY against scientology as you would know by my other posts... i used the caps accidentally on the post that you made mention of, even though what i said is true, of course a biographer would have found this out if it was true, and ryan idol not being the most stable of persons i would think would have screamed from the mountain tops about it too!.

the psyche of a actor gay or straight to KNOW that PEOPLE in the business know what they did to get where they are? and they don't care? regardless if they could use "whataboutism" in their own mind in that "well so and so did it too, everyone here in the audience did it to (i.e. at the academy awards) and so on..

R244, I don't follow...

I dont think Brad slept with anybody to get ahead but he did used soap writer Thom Recina’s generosity in offering him work and free rent in his place and he never acknowledged it once he made he it in hollywood.

Well, I hope all actors sleep for roles. How else can they play them, if they're in a constant state of sleep deprivation?

R245.. what i meant is that a quote "normal" person would be embarrassed that everyone in their business knew they had sex just to get where they are, including gay sex even if they were gay or even more so if they were straight... a quote "normal' person for instance being on the stage at the academy awards and everyone in the audience knew all about them would feel dirty, embarrassed, ashamed, sickened by it all, beyond the normal reaction of what everyone was talking about them, snickering and laughing at them and so on...

A story I heard about Brad Pitt: A male producer offered him a role in exchange for sex. He responded by saying he couldn't do that because he couldn't cheat on his girlfriend, which was a lie because he was single at the time. The producer asked him who his girlfriend was and Pitt randomly picked Juliette Lewis. Pitt then wooed Lewis to keep up the charade and liked her, so they ended staying together for several years.

That sounds like a lot of energy expended by Pitt for one part and one producer. And considering it meant fucking Juliette Lewis, it wasn't worth it

Brad is pretty lucky he had no connections in Hollywood except for Tom Recina who took pity in him.He was just mid-western kid fresh out of Missouri with a couple of bcks in his pocket.

*Tom Recina who took pity inside him.

Fixed, R251.

R251: He really is. Today somebody from bumfuck who looks like Tom Hanks or Meryl Streep doesn't really stand a chance unless they get on their knees.

Yes, R253, because the ENTIRE industry is nothing but a casting couch. A Tom Hanks could only fuck his way to the top.

I agree, but I've always believed it's true because it's the only reasonable explanation I've heard why he got involved with Lewis.

Well here is Brad pitt in the soap opera Another World and guessed who was the head writer hmmmm?

Btw the scene was a bit homoerotic

No way that Racina guy had a young Brad Pitt living in his guesthouse for free without sex involved.

So, R256, who was the head writer, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????

I like the other guy more. I'd rather fuck him.

R247 Watching Hoffman squirm as he tries (and fails) to explain away the Olivier comment is hilarious

Damn! They cut out the part where Brad goes to the coach about is sore groin muscle and the coach helps him "work out the knot"!

I don’t think Streep or Hanks are good examples because they built an audience over several years of hard work. Jennifer Lawrence on the other hand ...

The idea that every single actor and actress has had to deal with the prospect of sleeping with a producer for a career in movies or TV is pretty corny.

Jennifer Lawrence is a good example of an actor who had one hit (or one hit franchise) and Hollywood thought she'd be popular with the public in other roles. But the public only liked her in the one hit she had and didn't give a shit about her outside of that. Hollywood has so many examples like this.

There are tons of actors who slept with powerful guys and never got anywhere

But DL insists that Jennifer Lawrence is only famous because of Harvey

R264, they liked her in other stuff other than the franchise. She's been nominated for 4 Oscars for other movies that made money and she's a had a few big hits. She's a little young to be written off as a has-been. We'll see.

J Law was also riding the David O Russell train during her It Girl phase (SILVER LININGS PLAYBOOK, JOY, AMERICAN HUSTLE).

If the public has cooled on J Law, they've cooled on Russell, too. He is nowhere near the talent that he--and a clutchful of clueless critics--think he is.

Based on what do you make those assumptions, R267?

Re: Geffen

Recall, his name also came up in the Teofil Brank (Jarec Wentworth) extortion trial. Porn actor Justin Griggs (Sean Cody's Taylor) was on the witness stand talking about Don Burns, and when the subject turned to favors he'd received from another benefactor, Grigg's didn't want to name the guy, 'because he was very powerful' and the male escort said he "feared for his own safety." But Brank's defense attorney pressed on until he gave the name up, telling the court it was David Geffen.

River Phoenix

Jacquin Phoenix

There are a few photos from James Ivory's Instagram of Timothee Chalamet looking rather sullen, rather like rent boys tend to, in the company of old men.

I'm sure we'd all agree the link would've been useful. The others are around the same date as this one

R264: I think this is exactly what happened with Chalamet. After just one hit role with Call Me By Your Name, Hollywood thought he’d be popular with the public in other roles. That’s why he’s in practically every other thing.

Recent evidence suggests that the overexposure has triggered a backlash. The most recent Daily Mail article on him and Dune had comments that included the following: he’s overrated, his face is everywhere, I’m sick of him.

[quote]There are tons of actors who slept with powerful guys and never got anywhere

[quote]But DL insists that Jennifer Lawrence is only famous because of Harvey

That's because we've seen her act, R265. I for one am completely certain her awards were bought and paid for.

Speaking of David O Russell... Ironically, his career took off because he was sleeping with his agent. A woman he later married. He admits that sleeping with her gave him his career. He made a joke about it in a speech I saw him give.

And by the way... Total prick!

R272 I had never seen those before.

In spring 2015 he was 19, but looks 14. Why did he take so many pics of him? He looks uncomfortable

Remember when james Ivory wore a shirt with timothee’s face on it during the Oscars?

For the poster asking about David O. Russell:

His last major movie was JOY in 2015--5 years ago. Despite J Law's appeal, it was generally regarded as a a disappointment critically and failed to turn a profit. J Law was nominated for Best Actress, which most people thought was completely undeserved. She lost, though she did win a Golden Globe.

Following the success of AMERICAN HUSTLE and SILVER LININGS PLAYBOOK, JOY was a surprising comedown. Then there's also ACCIDENTAL LOVE, a forgotten movie (with Jake Gyllenhaal) that Russell directed back in 2010 but took his name off of before it was finally released in 2010. Of course, Russell will live in infamy as the man who verbally abused Lily Tomlin (on film) while making I HEART HUCKABEES.

And thank you, R276 for confirming. Yes, he's a prick. He has a new project in development with Christian Bale, which sounds like the right fit to me.

[quote]I don’t think Streep or Hanks are good examples because they built an audience over several years of hard work. Jennifer Lawrence on the other hand ...

Jennifer Lawrence is a very bad example of someone who could only succeed by using her pussy.

In the first movie I ever say her in, "Winter's Bone," she gave one of the best performances I have ever seen.

It really caught the attention of Hollywood.

R278 Yes but it was not too awkward. And I remember when Timmy helped him onto the stage at the BAFTA Awards and thought it was very sweet.

But these photos just give weird vibes. Maybe it's just because he looks so young.

"That's because we've seen her act, R265. I for one am completely certain her awards were bought and paid for."

She's been a good actress since she was a teen. You just don't like her. Different strokes for different folks, but don't accuse someone of "buying" their awards just because you don't like that person.

"His last major movie was JOY in 2015--5 years ago. Despite J Law's appeal, it was generally regarded as a a disappointment critically and failed to turn a profit."

It's literally about a woman who invents a mop - if she hadn't been in it, it probably would have flopped even harder.

"In the first movie I ever say her in, "Winter's Bone," she gave one of the best performances I have ever seen. "

Lawrence is a perfect of "Too much, too soon, too little training".

She has talent, or had, but somewhere in the pressures of stardom and the endless franchise films, she lost what made her a star in the first place. In recent years, she's given bad, lazy, over-it performances, she's diminished as an actor rather than growing. I don't know if she just hates being a star or a celebrity and secretly wants to chuck it all, but I suspect her fab early performances were all instinct and raw talent, used without understanding. IMHO that's why a lot of actors who start as teens fail to grow up into interesting actors, they don't understand enough about what they're doing to grow and develop within their craft.

R277, R278 admiration exists, you know?

You can admire someone without wanting to fuck them, especially if they are obviously talented like Tim is.

Re: Kenneth Branagh: their have been rumours about him being bisexual since the late 1980s.

R221 Alexander Skarsgård was actually never offered the part of Thor but was the lead contender for a period of time. Marvel studio head Kevin Feige, pushed for Skarsgård and even had him do a screen test in full Thor regalia. Skarsgård has talked about it and basically admitted he did expect to get cast. However, he was suddenly dropped out of contention and Chris Hemworth (who was a nobody at this point) was unexpectedly cast.

Behind the scenes it's alleged Branagh (who had been given final say on casting) was the one who made the decision to axe Skarsgård from consideration. There is an interesting timeline of events: Skarsgård meets with Feige, and does a screen test. Then he's seen out having lunch in LA with Branagh and the buzz is Skarsgård is about to be cast. Then within a few days of that, Skarsgård is no longer being considered and casting was "delayed" (see link below for an interview with Kenneth Branagh). Then out of the blue a few weeks later, Chris is announced as Thor and it took the industry by surprise.

So, Chris Hemsworth didn't even get a screen test initially. He auditioned but the studio passed. Liam, however, did get a screen test and while Feige liked him, they felt he was too young. Chris' agent used a 'personal connection' with Feige and managed to get Chris in to read for Thor. Branagh than cast him.....

From screen rant: "Finke reports Hemsworth had read for the part before but "wasn't given a test because a casting director had nixed him early on." Apparently, his younger brother tested for the role too, but Marvel passed. William Ward, Hemsworth's rep and partner/founder at ROAR Management, then convinced Marvel's executive Kevin Feige to reconsider. They let Hemsworth read again and it sure sounded like director Kenneth Branagh had a choice in mind 3 days ago, but the final decision was made today."

Read between the lines here: Skarsgård probably lost the part because he wasn't willing to put out probably because he was already established....Chris did what he felt he needed to do to land the biggest role of his career up to that point. After the film, Branagh was released from his contract to direct a sequel and has never worked for Marvel again. Chris never refers to Branagh and rarely talks about how he landed the role. During an appearance on "The View," Hemsworth was asked about he got the part (by Joy) and he totally avoided giving much of an answer.

KB even made Tom Hiddleston think he could be Thor. See screentest below. Nothing but casting couch could explain that.

Hemsworth got the part because he;s better looking, and would be more appealing to teens.

Hemsworth got the part because he didn't look at all like Hiddleston, who resembles a demented trannie in a track-and-field competition.

Jennifer may have been okay in that indie film, but let’s be real. She only became a big star because she rode the pole and slept around for parts. She then got overexposed and all of her movies started to disappoint at the box office relative to their cost or her perceived “value.” She is no Julia or Meryl.

Did Stellan have to put out for Branagh??!?

[Quote] I don't know if she just hates being a star or a celebrity and secretly wants to chuck it all

I'd say both.

[Quote] She only became a big star because she rode the pole and slept around for parts.

Which no other actor has ever done before 🙄

And Liam has that deep baritone voice that makes my prostate quiver whenever he purrs his lines!!!

I use to volunteer at the Toronto Film Festival and worked the red carpet of "Rush" and having seen both Liam and Chris in person here's my view: Chris is the better looking brother on screen, but Liam is hotter than Chris in person.

R281 Right? He doesn't exactly look thrilled to be there. Plus the way he got cast in CMBYN is curious. Okay, so his agent is married to one of the producers, you'd still expect them to at least audition him, instead of Luca meeting him casually and agreeing he'd be great in the role.

So, I'm assuming that Bryan Singer got to sample both Aaron and Shawn Ashmore?

R295, at the same time. Once they invited Max and Charlie Carver over for some real fun.

[quote] He doesn't exactly look thrilled to be there.

R294, what are you on about? Go take you meds

Oh yes the audition process was sooo strange say the crazy DLers

I wish all the Chalamet stans could be loaded onto a rocket and shot into the sun.

r289, nobody becomes a big star just by sleeping with someone. Ask all the non-famous actors who blew someone but never got anywhere. People here just can't be objective towards an actor they dislike

Ha. She slept with multiple people

R297 So you think he looks happy in that photo then?

R298 Why are you linking to that photo? You do realise that was after he'd already been cast, right?

Also, why did you feel the need to break up your reply across multiple posts? An attempt to make it seem like there are more of you than there are?

R302

Why did you feel the need to project your own sex trafficking fantasies onto Timothee's casting process? Why do you feel the need to taint Jimmy's name by making him appear as an abuser and a rapist? In Ivory's long and illustrious career in Merchant Ivory that has never been the case.

Besides, Tim has said several times — and I believe him — that he felt honored to have been attached to the CMBYN project from the start. So in other words, he was perfectly safe, fine and very lucky spending time with James ivory exploring his role.

R303 Resorting to ad hominems just shows up the fact you have no real counter-argument.

It's really funny, though, that in a thread full of allegations of much worse, you got so upset at a post saying he didn't look happy in a photo. Oh, and as for referring to James Ivory as "Jimmy" - fuck off.

R295 I would assume so. It's been alleged that Singer had a particular fetish for twins.

Shawn met Bryan Singer first when he was 17 or 18 (late 1990s) and shortly thereafter was cast in X-Men. Aaron met Singer through Shawn and became close. In fact, Aaron lived with Singer for a period of time in LA...we all know what "living with Singer' entails. I believe he had a number of young men living with him. Aaron apparently blogged about living with Singer, later deleted it, and then years later denied he ever lived with Singer saying it was just rumor. Interestingly, Aaron was never cast in any Singer projects, although he was offered the role of Jimmy Olson in Superman Returns.

My take is that both Ashmores did stuff with Bryan, but Aaron was much involved in what was going on there...like he played an active role in "procuring talent" for Singer.

R304

[quote] he didn't look happy in a photo

Is not a fact. It's your subjective interpretation — learn to distinguish

R304

[quote] you got so upset

I can't stand millennial asswipes like you flippantly slandering a 92 yo gay man of Ivory's calibre with accusations of sexually abusing underage/young actors when it is patently not true. Fact

R307, no one here is a millennial. Just a bunch of eldergays lashing out at millennials

R294 idk, Luca Guadagnino has always said that none of the actors auditioned for CMBYN and he doesn't ask to audition in general

Actually I don't believe Ivory fucked Timothee, I just think he'd better not have posted them because they may make it seem so. I think a 90-year-old in a sort of position of power taking pics of a 19-year-old at his house is awkward. Probably, it was just not a a good idea to post them on his IG.

R306 Actually, no it isn't. I've said he doesn't [bold]look[/bold] thrilled to be there, and that he doesn't [bold]look[/bold] happy - both are actually factual. If I said he wasn't thrilled to be there or he wasn't happy, that would be subjective. But any reasonable person looking at those photos would have to agree he does not [bold]look[/bold] thrilled nor happy in those photos.

R307 Gen Z actually. Also, you're the only one talking about anything sexual going on. All I and other posters have said is how he doesn't look at ease in those photos. What were you saying about projection? The funniest part is your most logical argument would have been the fact that Ivory had no role in casting. Instead you act like a loon with multiple replies to the same post and silly insults.

FFS I with this untalented nonentity Chalamet would just disappear, along with his batshit stalker fans. Enough with this bullshit.

My God, are some of you insinuating that the then 90-year-old James Ivory had the energy to chase after the then 21-year-old Timothée Chalamet? You're pretty optimistic about the male sex drive.

Some of the posters sternly addressing presumed "millennials" on this board really seem to have no idea that a good chunk of the cohort they're referring to are now in early middle age and have children of their own. Time to catch up!

Emma Thompson once said in an interview that Branagh was "constitutionally unsuited" to being married.

When they first began dating, he actually denied it:

[quote]During an interview on location, Emma spoke of what it was like to be 'absolutely, totally and blindly in love'. But as soon as the press picked up the scent, Branagh tried to deflect attention by pretending to be gay: 'I'm as camp as a row of tents,' he once declared.

[quote]My God, are some of you insinuating that the then 90-year-old James Ivory had the energy to chase after the then 21-year-old Timothée Chalamet?

Chalamet was already in his house, he didn't have top do much chasing

Not that any more proof is needed that David O. Russell is a prick but if you haven't seen it just watch his reaction to Emmanuelle Riva winning the Best Actress award at the BAFTAs over JLaw - he is sitting next to her.

R312 After my 88-year old neighbor's wife passed about three years ago, he discovered Viagra, and he has a bevy of women who invite him over to cook dinner for him and spend the night. He's a real slut. There was a chlamydia scare about 9 months ago. Someone had gotten busy with a partner at an assisted living center, and they were dealing with a breakout there.

People would be shock that the sex at the elder folks home are rampant im not even joking...

R313,

[quote] a good chunk of the cohort they're referring to are now in early middle age and have children of their own.

So daddy instead of being a responsible adult and taking care of 'his children' is busy on a gossip board talking about who has or has not slept with JLaw. I see...

R310, Gen Z/millennials, they are all the same to me. It means you are just the age group (thanks to previous gains) that has the luxury of casually branding an elderly gay man a predator and using an insidious stereotype that has done a lot of harm to LGBT people everywhere and thinking it's funny — or worse, of no consequence

[quote] you're the only one talking about anything sexual going on

This thread is predicated on the reality of the casting couch, which means exchanging sexual favours for, in this case, a role or a part in a film. To claim no-one is mentioning sex is disingenuous on your part.

So, your logic throughout is flawed — no, James Ivory is not a predator.

[quote]Gen Z/millennials, they are all the same to me

Making your obsession with Chalamet pretty creepy

[quote]no, James Ivory is not a predator.

He just takes photos which make him look like one

[quote] make him look like one

That's not fact, that's conjecture

Zach Braff - Greg Berlanti

Who are the idiots who think Gen Z and millennials are the same? I guess when you're 90, everyone seems young, even people who are pushing 40.

And why is it wrong to accuse Ivory, but not anyone else? This whole board is full of accusations of so-and-so being a predator or a casting couch ho.

[quote] Gen Z: Gen Z is the newest generation to be named and were born between 1995 and 2015. They are currently between 4-24 years old

Pushing 40?

r325, the oldest millennials are pushing 40.

[quote] She’s been a good actress since she was a teen. You just don’t like her. Different strokes for different folks, but don’t accuse someone of “buying” their awards just because you don’t like that person.

Nope, I’m ambivalent about her personally; I just think her acting has been amateurish and flat in all of her movies that I’ve seen. By way of comparison, Gwyneth Paltrow is a monstrously entitled twatwaddle as far as I’m concerned, but I’m forced to admit that she has acting talent to burn and actually earned the awards she’s been given for her performances.

That "Gwyneth Paltrow earned the awards she’s been given for her performances???"

I like Gwynnie, I love it when she rubs her privilege in people's faces bu that she earned her awards?? C'mon...

To be fair, most of them were for [italic]Shakespeare in Love[/italic], which was excellent in a year full of excellent movies.

[Quote] Zach Braff - Greg Berlanti

Didn't Greg sleep with Kevin during the DC days?

Ivory probably can't get it up. Even for Timmy.

Something tells me both Darren Criss and Matt Bomer has to take their pants off for some roles.

I’d say every director has fucked at least one actor in every one of his or her movies.

R332: Had

r333

Lol, I thought that sentence was going to end with "orifices".

David Corenswet

r332 Wasn't Bomer a call girl?

I've seen footage of Ryan Murphy lovingly caressing Criss' cheek at some sort of red carpet event, so I think we can take that one as a given.

Bomer I don't know. He spent a decade working his way up from soaps to a primetime series lead, and it may be that a combination of looks and actually turning in decent performances kept that work in front of the camera rather than on his back (or all fours).

R338 That's the same time he yanked someone out the way so he could stand next to Criss, isn't it?

There are few actors who are more bland and uninteresting than Matt Bomer. I don't get the obsession some have with him. He's a nonentity.

I accidentally read “rolls”.

Never mind.

R340, he's stunningly beautiful. And he was good in that USA show he was on.

He's bland, like a Ken doll. And has a personality to match.

[quote]I've seen footage of Ryan Murphy lovingly caressing Criss' cheek at some sort of red carpet event, so I think we can take that one as a given.

Not necessarily.

I saw that footage too but it was shared because Criss forcefully moved Murphy's hand away. It was really uncomfortable to see.

[quote]Bomer I don't know. He spent a decade working his way up from soaps to a primetime series lead,

Just by looking over his history on IMDB -- Carnegie Mellon graduate. Soaps. Multiple smaller roles. Booked Superman but lost it. Attempts at leading shows which failed and then finally "White Collar" which he was undeniably perfect for. After, minor roles in random projects. Indie films. Admitted he turned down 50 Shades of Grey. Other than that his husband reps Ryan Murphy & Greg Berlanti and has for decades. So he uses his connections. He probably also protects him. I agree that he's bland, boring, too heteronormative & has no sex appeal but is attractive. If he were sleeping around for roles he'd likely have landed better ones than the ones he has had (seems like he dies A LOT in shows or movies) or settled with someone who could have done more for his career. There would have been a massive jump like we've seen with other people discussed.

I agree.

Matt Bomer actually seems like a nice guy. But if he were actually putting out to advance his career, man... talk about fucking your way to the middle.

We almost never hear of him lately, but Bomer's MAGIC MIKE bro, Joe Manganiello, is a good example (allegedly) of straight-but-gay-for-the-right-role, if rumors from some years back are to be believed. His marriage to Sofia V did a good job of quashing any/all speculation to that end. OTOH, it may have also inadvertently killed his career.

Matt Bomer is bland and has limited range, but when he plays within that range (White Collar was perfect for him), he's wonderful.

[quote]I saw that footage too but it was shared because Criss forcefully moved Murphy's hand away. It was really uncomfortable to see.

You sure about that?

"Move bitch, he's mine"

He didn't seem to find it objectionable enough to avoid working for Murphy in multiple projects afterwards, including the one that earned him an Emmy and Golden Globe after baring his own golden globes...

[Quote] Booked Superman but lost it. Attempts at leading shows which failed and then finally "White Collar" which he was undeniably perfect for. After, minor roles in random projects. Indie films. Admitted he turned down 50 Shades of Grey.

It sucks that he missed out on Superman but I don't blame him for turning down Fifty Shades.

[quote]You sure about that?

In your GIF his hand comes up to push his arm down right before it cuts off.

R351 After Murphy has already taken his hand away

I actually find the insinuation about the very talented James Ivory very off too. Do I believe the casting couch happens? yes. Do I think it happens on very movie? No. Every TV show? No. Alot of people On here like to think because it makes them feel powerful. Oh look what they had to do! They are not deserving! There glamorous rich lives are a fraud. Maybe their lives are not as great as you think because they are human but not because of everything you want to believe. Some people just have talent and that’s why they are there. At the right time, right place. It’s your fantasy a lot of the conjecture here. Ask yourself why this is a fantasy you have.

Okay, so it's wrong to make assumptions about James Ivory but okay to make assumptions about absolutely everyone else?

Of course James Ivory wanted some of Timmy’s big dick, and there ain’t nothing wrong with that.

All of them except Josh Hartnett and Cam Gigandet. That's why they don't really have careers anymore.

Cam was fucking hot in that Never Back Down movie, especially when he was beating the crap out of that twink Sean Faris

I wonder about Eric Bana. If he famously turned down Troy co-star Brad Pitt’s advances, no way did he do casting couch with sleazy producers, unless it’s a chick. Anyone straight enough to be turning down Brad Pitt in his prime is not engaging in transactional casting couch sex.

[quote]Of course James Ivory wanted some of Timmy’s big dick

He'd be in for a disappointment either way

R357 by the time he did Troy, he probably had enough success to turn down random offers. Not like Pitt could get him a leading man role on another film at that time.

[Quote] All of them except Josh Hartnett and Cam Gigandet. That's why they don't really have careers anymore.

C'mon now 😆😆😆

I'm assuming this is the pose Chris did to land Thor?

Already mentioned Zac Efron

Robert Scott Wilson

Toby McGuire

[Quote] Toby McGuire

Which role?

Leonardo DiCaprio's buddy.

No way did Branaugh have the final decision about who was cast as Thor. This was a huge movie and the final word came from the studio. They made the right choice because Hemsworth is perfect in the role and Skarsgard or Hiddleston would have been disasterous. He didn't have to fuck Branaugh for it, they gave it to him.

[Quote] Skarsgard or Hiddleston would have been disasterous.

I can see Skarsgard pulling off Thor.

Skarsgard always looks like he's translating from Swedish to Eglish in his head. I know he's fluent but his mannerisms just don't work for me, he's always cold. Even though Tarzen did well at the box office, he was still stiff in that movie I've never seen him do funny, outside of his small part in Zoolander, so I assume Thor would have been more of the brooding type.

Would love to have a threesome with Alexander & Bill.

[quote] Even though Tarzen did well at the box office

It didn't and was considered a flop. The budget was ludicrous $180M and worldwide box office around $360M. The studio very possibly lost money.

[Quote] I've never seen him do funny,

He had some funny moments as Eric on True Blood. But playing cold/dark characters is his bread and butter. Actually I could say that about his whole family.

Funny because I always forget he is Swedish. I see it as the opposite. I actually think Gustav is a good actor too.

Ok r15. The rest of the world must be blind.

r15

r15, he may not be your cup of tea but he is very handsome to sexy depending on the era.

Tom Cruise was hot AF back in the 80s. I would've hit that ass front, back and sideways.

Whenever I see pictures of Cruise I always think of the fact that Bale modeled the Patrick Bateman character in American Psycho on Cruise's persona: aggressive friendliness with absolutely nothing behind it.

TC might have been handsome and photogenic at times, but he short and stumpy.

He looked amazing in TOP GUN. I’ll give him that.

How timely, Kenneth Branaugh just gave a virtual interview a few days ago, which he touched upon casting Thor. And yes, R365 Branaugh has confirmed Hemsworth was his choice not the studios. Interesingly he claim he didn't another Thor movie because the whole situation was "stressful" and that he needed time to 'unwind.' Reading between the lines (there was a lot of tension on the set between Branaugh and the actors and studio.

379 comments and no mention of Ed Limato. How can that be?

“Slept???”

What century is this???

Besides, most of them probably got blown or topped. They weren’t even lying down most likely!

R381 I do not understand these baby euphemisms people still use.

I see it often on this site.

r381 r382 My guess is English not first language.

Sleeping with somebody is still a useful euphemism. It suggests more than once, to me.

In German, it's still the most widely used expression for having sex (in polite company). I believe in French as well (though I'm not sure about that).

In English it only conveys sex when you say "slept with." Slept by itself does not.

R385 Schtupping ist nicht sleeping.

The casting of Keanu in DANGEROUS LIAISONS with Uma and Michelle was purposeful. An American cast was chosen specifically for it, and Cécile de Volanges, Danceny and Tourvel are all supposed to be naive at best and just plain stupid. Even Pfeiffer still was better known for Grease 2 rather than Scarface and Sweet Liberty. They were all very well cast, but Pfeiffer really got to show what she could do in that part.

Ken Branagh even did an article about people thinking he's gay recently and he, of course, played with the interviewer as if he'd been open to it but never had sex with another man. I can't find it but the Advocate did a really rigorous interview with him in 1996 where he acknowledged it had been discussed for a long time.

He radiates the kind of persona of men I know who are failures at relationships with women, flirty with men, but then probably could never accept the idea of being gay. Delusions of their own masculinity and desperation for acceptance by others.

[quote]I believe in French as well (though I'm not sure about that).

It is: "Coucher avec" is literally to sleep with. In Italian, it's "portato a letto" which means took to bed. Of course, both languages have their own versions of to "fuck" which is considered crude.

I think Keanu slept around more than most. He was the most gorgeous thing in Hollywood.

^ So according to you, Keanu must have slept around because he was "gorgeous"? I'm not saying he didn't, but c'mon.!

I approve of truly beautiful people fucking around.

It's a sort of public service.

Amen, r393!

Did Warren Beatty and Marlon Brando have sex with Tennessee Williams to get roles in his plays and films?

The legend claims Warren Beatty went to Tennesse Williams' hotel room in a robe and Tennesse said to him: "Go to sleep, Warren. You already have the part".

R396 a if williams would have turned down prime beatty?

i wonder about the recently passed schumacher and his cadre of male actors in his films...i wonder if he was "in on" the costumes and the fitting of the 2 batman movies he directed?..

^ If Schumacher hasn't left some type for a journal for posterity, I'm classifying him a bad gay.

[quote]Sleeping with somebody is still a useful euphemism. It suggests more than once, to me.

Okay, but that doesn't describe the standard casting couch scenario. You dally with someone once for a role. You might have dalliances with them again for future roles, or dalliances with other people for other roles, but it's not a "sleeping together" thing. As said above, "lying together" might not even happen if it's something like oral sex in an office, which these things reportedly often are. Even quickie intercourse rarely involves lying down; people are bent over or pressed against a wall, or you're "going to town" on a desk top or a conference table or what have you; no one is lying on anything that anyone would actually sleep on. This florid language of "sleeping together" like two lovers in love is ridiculous in this context.

"Sleeping together" does imply more than once, because it implies an ongoing relationship, or a recurring arrangement; not a one time "quid pro quo" transaction. The metaphor of sleeping has an obvious real-world reference; people in ongoing or recurring sexual relationships do often spend the night together and part of that time is presumably spent actually sleeping, but, again, that is not the casting couch, obviously. No one [italic]sleeps[/italic] on the casting couch. Ew.

Now, plenty of relationships up to and including full-blown public marriages feature some sort of mercenary arrangements, even if it's just the old "you raise the kids and I earn the money" model, but those are about more than just sexual favors in exchange for economic opportunity.

Ok, ok, r399, this isn't the New York Review of Books here.

James Dean was quoted as saying "I've had the biggest names in Hollywood suck my dick." He was also a voracious bottom according to gossip.

Dean was a hypocrite: he mocked Rock Hudson for his homosexuality while they were making GIANT together (they despised each other) while remaining closeted about his own.

r402 Not according to Liz Taylor. She said she and Rock had a bet as to who Dean would sleep with.

It's hilarious that old people get upset when young people don't want their attention. Seeing the comments about millennials and being labeled a predator.

You are what you are. Also I don't think everyone has gotten ahead by giving head. You have to have talent to act. People try that all the time and get nowhere.

All of them.

I never slept for a movie role!

"Also I don't think everyone has gotten ahead by giving head. You have to have talent to act."

Well, yeah, when we're talking films that cost tens or hundreds of millions of dollars each, it's not like the studio is going to make a billion-dollar decision on the strength of who gave the director the best head!

No, at that level, it's more like which actor can form a "close, personal, collaborative, artist-muse relationship" with the director. And if having sex with the director will help the director realize that a certain actor has a personal magnetism that might translate to the screen, then if that certain actor is really ambitious, he's going to do what he can to make the director see his potential. I suspect that's how Schumacher came to discover and mentor actors like CF, at that level it wouldn't be a cynical exchange of favors.

There's also the reality that some directors (many directors?) don't want the strongest, most original, most inspired actors for their projects.

Directors want moderately talented, capable actors who they can control, who will take direction, not challenge them, and not bring their own crazy ideas to the table. Actors who obey. There are a lot more moderately talented actors than truly original ones.

(not to go off-topic completely, but it sometimes works both ways. Meryl Streep is a powerhouse actor who (based on anecdotal evidence) works with moderately talented film directors who do not challenge her or her authority and especially, her interpretation of a role. Meryl gets movies made, successfully, so no one is going to question the process.)

R404. Ugh. Naive and pompous.

Glen Powell

[quote]Brad Pitt's rise was just as meteoric, [R48]. Thelma and Louise then BOOM! 💥 It would make sense if he had some acting talent, but that isn't the case. It all culminated with an Oscar in reward for all the money he's made for the entire industry.

Pitt was PERFECT for that part in THELMA AND LOUISE in every way, including the fact that the character was supposed to be a hot stud muffin, plus his acting in the movie was very good. So I'm not surprised if that role alone set him firmly on the path to stardom. It would be more natural to question how he got the part in T&L, but as for that, obviously it made sense for the part to go to a very young, hot, unknown guy, and they have to come from some place. And I doubt that Pitt slept with Ridley Scott.

R410 which role???

I was supposed to get a role?

Charles Nelson Reilly

In a multitude of talented aspirants, it's the blowjob that gets you the screen test.

Christine Belford. Her specialty was playing wealthy women who looked like they just smelt a fart.

^ Oops wrong thread

That cocksucker Alain Delon. Now he pretends that world forgot that he was a whore.

Alain has a small wee-wee.

Delon was exlusive male prostitute in Monte Carlo and Côte d'Azur.He met Briefly there, not in the bar or club in Paris.

R419 Maybe that's why he did not succeed in US.

James Dean

A.D used to know Robert Evans. We know why. They met in a poker game in Paris in 1961 and were close friends for 20 years. Evans produced the Godfather and wanted Delon to play Michael. Coppola turned that down(thank god) .Evans once announced he was making the movie about life of Maurice Chevalier with Delon but that never came to be. Delon always stayed at Evans house when he was in LA. He gave Evans a mink bed spread from Dior.

Val Kilmer was Johnny Mathis’ houseboy when he was a young man...Johnny liked his men blond and trashy.

Lee Majors

What is the story with Hard Rock and Mr. Bionic man? In another thread, there was a supposed quote from Hard Rock that seemed to dis bionic man. He seemed to deny discovering bionic man. ???? Didn't he discover him in Kentucky? Did their friendship end badly? Details, anyone?

Rock "discovered" Lee Majors when Lee was still in college. There are pics of them together with Lee's family back in Kentucky.

Is Lee bi? Straight? Gay? Opportunistic? ?????

Val Kilmer is very talented. He became the youngest person at the time to be accepted into the Juilliard School's Drama Division.

Yeah, Val wath thquite thalented.

Timothee Chalamet

Red Buttons

Travis Van Winkle 💯 Dude is gorgeous and also Seoul’s first be shocked if he’s Bi or something. Seems very open about everything.

Ashton Kutcher. He'd already done modeling, so...

This was a CDAN blind yesterday:

"By the process of deduction, it looks like this A list mostly movie actor had to hit the casting couch for his first big role. Each person who has come into contact with the executive who was casting that role said the only way to ever get cast was to sleep with the executive. No exceptions."

Some interesting guesses in the comments.

If it's CDAN, it's made up

R435, Hugh Jackman

I’m not an actor but I’d sleep for a part. Would do my ego good

I'll take a nap anytime.

Travis Van Winkle no doubt

R46. Not all of Henry Willson’s clients were gay. Any proof more than hearsay, about Chad Everett?

Woody Allen

honey, i been in the biz for 40 yrs, you dont get up the ladder in entertainment unless u fuk ur way up, too many purdy/talented men in town, you have to put out to the right folks....been that way since adam and eve.

Still all speculation.

R403, she never said that. A bullshit bio claimed she did

Bu mp

Any gossip on a young, beautiful Pierce Brosnan using his sexy body to get roles?

Skarsgard

R443's "40 years" in the business leaves nothing but arrogance and Alzheimer's.

Illiteracy and laziness only make dementia work.

Weird that no-one ever said shit about it when 22-year old twink Ralph Macchio stayed in John Avildsen’s NYC apartment for days, while they were casting him for the lead role in THE KARATE KID.

R450 nothing weird about that.

Does the late Corey Haim count, given that for half the time he was underaged and roofied? I feel like he really shouldn’t count, it’s sort of scummy to go there.

Ok this is OT and I have no proof (pure speculation and hearsay) on my part but—why is Jack Grealish suddenly now a guaranteed starter in the England national football squad when before he could not make it in for love nor money despite being good enough because the manager clearly does not like him? He showed up to training camp last year with new long hair and all this newfound sexual confidence...just saying🧐🤔