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The Guardian: Andrew Cuomo is to blame for New York's coronavirus catastrophe

Andrew Cuomo may be the most popular politician in the country. His approval ratings have hit all-time highs thanks to his Covid-19 response. Some Democrats have discussed him as a possible replacement for Joe Biden, due to Biden’s perceived weakness as a nominee. And there have even been some unfortunate tributes to Cuomo’s alleged sex appeal.

All of which is bizarre, because Cuomo should be one of the most loathed officials in America right now. ProPublica recently released a report outlining catastrophic missteps by Cuomo and the New York City mayor, Bill de Blasio, which probably resulted in many thousands of needless coronavirus cases. ProPublica offers some appalling numbers contrasting what happened in New York with the outbreak in California. By mid-May, New York City alone had almost 20,000 deaths, while in San Francisco there had been only 35, and New York state as a whole suffered 10 times as many deaths as California.

Federal failures played a role, of course, but this tragedy was absolutely due, in part, to decisions by the governor. Cuomo initially “reacted to De Blasio’s idea for closing down New York City with derision”, saying it “was dangerous” and “served only to scare people”. He said the “seasonal flu was a graver worry”. A spokesperson for Cuomo “refused to say if the governor had ever read the state’s pandemic plan”.

Later, Cuomo would blame the press, including the New York Times for failing to say “Be careful, there’s a virus in China that may be in the United States?” even though the Times wrote nearly 500 stories on the virus before the state acted. Experts told ProPublica that “had New York imposed its extreme social distancing measures a week or two earlier, the death toll might have been cut by half or more”.

But delay was not the only screw-up. Elderly prisoners have died of coronavirus because New York has failed to act on their medical parole requests. As Business Insider documented:

“Testing was slow. Nonprofit social-service agencies that serve the most vulnerable couldn’t get answers either. And medical experts like the former CDC director Tom Frieden said ‘so many deaths could have been prevented’ had New York issued its stay-at-home order just ‘days earlier’ than it did. On March 19, when New York’s schools had already been closed, Cuomo said ‘in many ways, the fear is more dangerous than the virus.’”

The governor has failed to take responsibility for the obvious failures, consistently blaming others and at one point even saying “governors don’t do pandemics”. (Actually, some governors just don’t read their state’s pandemic plans.) But much of the press has ignored this, focusing instead on Cuomo’s aesthetic presentation: his dramatic statements about “taking responsibility” (even when he obviously hasn’t), and his invisible good looks.

For too long, Democrats have measured their politicians by “whether they are better than Republicans”. This sets the bar very low indeed, and means that Democrats end up settling for incompetent and amoral leaders who betray progressive values.

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by Anonymousreply 4205/25/2020

Trump is to blame! Nice try, deplorable propaganda thread creator!

by Anonymousreply 105/24/2020

He showed leadership ability, but I haven’t forgotten what he did to Andy Byford and the MTA. Fuck Cuomo and his contempt for NYC.

by Anonymousreply 205/24/2020

This is such nonsense of course z

Cuomo actually has followed public health rules and the rate of infection is plummeting in NYC.

There’s no way anyone could have stopped a massive infection in NYC. It’s just too dense.

Cuomo has brought it under control and has shown amazing leadership to the world in the process.

by Anonymousreply 305/24/2020

First we were guilted into wanting testing and wearing masks, because those things were only for the sickest. Now you’re an asshole if you don’t get tested (even if you’re asymptomatic). And an asshole if your face isn’t covered outside of your home.

by Anonymousreply 405/24/2020

When will this stop? He might have made mistakes in the beginning but Cuomo quickly learned and became the model for other American leaders. DeBlasio and Trump are the ones that were stuck on stupid.

by Anonymousreply 505/24/2020

[quote] Federal failures played a role, of course

Oh, of course, but never mind that - go after Cuomo!

It won't work. He's a hero in the City of New York and to much of the country. As for the talk about VP Biden - it's all a bunch of bullshit. Vice President Biden is fine, thank you. Look, at the polls.

Cuomo made his decision about running this year, last year. He's not in.

by Anonymousreply 605/24/2020

Change the narrative much?

by Anonymousreply 705/24/2020

The Guardian is a far Left SJW rag. Of course they hate Cuomo. He’s not a trans woman of color.

by Anonymousreply 805/24/2020

The Guardian is a far Left SJW rag. Of course they hate Cuomo. He’s not a trans woman of color.

by Anonymousreply 905/24/2020

LOL one of the authors of this piece is a 32 year old socialist who looks 54 and styles himself after a cross between the late Tom Wolfe and the Joker.

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by Anonymousreply 1005/24/2020

R8 is trash and probably wrote the article!

by Anonymousreply 1105/24/2020

Fuck The Guardian, honestly.

by Anonymousreply 1205/24/2020

What R12 said, honestly.

by Anonymousreply 1305/24/2020

The person who wrote the article doesn’t sound very educated. How do you compare the most populous city in the US to SF?

by Anonymousreply 1405/24/2020

By having the brain power of a deplorable, Rose! R14

by Anonymousreply 1505/24/2020

There is a lot of blame to go around, and they certainly share some, but certainly not all.

Recent studies have shown that the virus strain that hit NYC came from Europe. Neither the governor or the mayor can shut JFK or EWR down. They are operated by the NY Transit authority but international flights ultimately belong to the Feds because of immigration.

They all certainly screwed the pooch on NYC in general. Didn't shut down soon enough. Didn't emphasize the danger. Didn't emphasize masks.

Of course, many mayors could fit this bill, but not many govern a tightly packed metro like NYC.

They all fucked up, but I would argue Cuomo has been trying to make the best of it. Trump and De Blasio just need to hide under the sheets and let the adults take over.

by Anonymousreply 1605/24/2020

I think Cuomo has been phenomenal throughout this crisis and shown himself to be Presidential material to people both in New York and outside of it, which rattles Rethugs to their core. It has been the very picture of what real leadership looks and acts like, particularly in a time of great uncertainty, and they fear what it could mean politically for them down the road (i.e., should Cuomo decide to run).

My only (mild) criticism has been that Cuomo does not appear to be very concerned with a timeline for bringing Broadway and the performing arts back the way he is sports. Of course, being a straight guy, that's to be expected I guess, but I've heard him talk several times in his press conferences about how "great" it would be to get sports back online but he sort of blew off a question a reporter gave him one day regarding Broadway (plus he offended the theater community when he failed to put a member of the Broadway League on his reopening task force, an oversight which has since been corrected). But other than this minor gripe, I think he's been great throughout this crisis.

by Anonymousreply 1705/24/2020

R5 Complete horseshit. DeBlasio wanted to shut down NYC and Cuomo said no! What a dumb fucking move on his part. Cuomo put Conavid-19 positive people into nursing homes. Cuomo claimed to know nothing about it when his name is on the order. One of my relatives got it in a home and survived. Trump dealt the same shitty hand to so many governors yet Newsom on California had so few deaths relative to NYS and NYS has less than half the population of California. Tyrant Cuomo has talked a lot but has had many deaths under his watch.

by Anonymousreply 1805/24/2020

The ONLY way out of this is to TEST, TRACE, ISOLATE.

Cuomo has prioritized this. Trump ignores it.

by Anonymousreply 1905/24/2020

If only he was a racist who grabs pussies he would be president!

by Anonymousreply 2005/24/2020

Nathan Robinson has Ted Cruz levels of Backpfeifengesicht.

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by Anonymousreply 2105/24/2020

R17, sports and Broadway is not really a fair comparison though.

Sports can be televised, with or without an audience in the stadia. Broadway not only needs an audience to thrive and feed off, shows are not televised.

by Anonymousreply 2205/24/2020

Seems to me Cuomo was a hot fling now burned out.

by Anonymousreply 2305/24/2020

The "invisible good looks" line made me laugh. Cuomo looks like a ghoul.

by Anonymousreply 2405/24/2020

[quote]Sports can be televised, with or without an audience in the stadia. Broadway not only needs an audience to thrive and feed off, shows are not televised.

R22, that's true, but I was speaking really about the fact that Broadway and the performing arts are a huge component of the economic engine for the city, plus the arts employ many people both onstage and off who lost their jobs after the shutdown and don't know when they will be able to go back to work. It's not just about getting "Phantom of the Opera" back online for the tourists as much as it is getting paychecks back into the pockets of all the actors, crew people, ushers, hat checkers, concession stand workers, box office attendants, etc. who can no longer pay their rent. That's the only reason I say it would be nice if Cuomo would show as much concern about the performing arts as he does getting the Yankees back on the field so that sports enthusiasts like himself can see another game. Instead it just seems like his attitude is "eh, Broadway" as if that's such a minor concern compared to all of the "real" suffering going on everywhere else.

But again, this is a minor gripe on my part and possibly just my misreading of his approach. And besides, it's not likely Broadway is going to be back anytime soon anyway given the situation, so it almost doesn't matter what he does.

by Anonymousreply 2505/24/2020

There's no doubt Cuomo fucked up for a month. Then he did his best to lead. Why can't both be true? They are both true. Sheesh!

by Anonymousreply 2605/24/2020

[quote] And besides, it's not likely Broadway is going to be back anytime soon anyway given the situation, so it almost doesn't matter what he does.

You just solidified my point and answered your own dilemma.

While it would be great to see Broadway reopen, it’s just not as possible as sports is right now.

I hear you loud and clear though. Please don’t take my response as snark.

by Anonymousreply 2705/24/2020

Cuomo didn’t fuck up the nursing home situation, as much as people want to say he did.

New York State is 34th of the 50 states in terms of nursing home deaths. Approximately 25% of New York’s deaths were in nursing homes. New Jersey is 50% and West Virginia is 81%.

He was following the CDC guidelines to prevent a recurrence of the AIDS days where nursing homes wouldn’t take HIV+ patients. His order also didn’t mean the homes were to take COVID patients and just put them in with the general population. They were supposed to be isolated from everyone else within the home and as he stated numerous times, if the home didn’t have the capacity or ability to do that, they were to call the Department of Health and tell them so they could put the patient elsewhere.

But the nursing homes had incentives to take the patients back. That incentive was money.

by Anonymousreply 2805/24/2020

[quote] The Guardian is a far Left SJW rag.

Not it's not, The Guardian is an actual left wing publication. Americans are so used to calling a centrist party like the Democratic Party left wing, that anything that actually proposes socialist ideas (which is what the left is all about) is perceived as radical, it's the same with AOC and Bernie Sanders. I do agree with the SJW part, but that's another conversation.

by Anonymousreply 2905/24/2020

The Guardian is right on this. I generally like Cuomo, but he did screw up on this, badly, especially the nursing home fiasco.

by Anonymousreply 3005/24/2020

R30, see r28.

by Anonymousreply 3105/24/2020

R26 If that is true then he has one up on the adult diaper wearing President Trump!

by Anonymousreply 3205/24/2020

R18 I seem to remember DeBlahBlah encouraging everyone to go out and party for St. Patrick's Day.

by Anonymousreply 3305/24/2020

[quote] Fuck Cuomo and his contempt for NYC.

There must be something in the water in Queens. He and Trump both hate their hometown

by Anonymousreply 3405/24/2020

I don't think Cuomo has contempt for NYC. But he does for DeBlahBlah. Who could blame him?

by Anonymousreply 3505/24/2020

Cuomo is a lying hypocritical piece of shit. Before the Pandemic was even a threat to NYS Cuomo slashed funding for Medicaid, in particular for things that hurt the elderly. He makes this big show of caring about the elderly and his old bat mother because he knows she can afford the best of home health care until she's 200 if need be. But for all the other elderly in NYS he went after longterm care, which is what pays for the elderly to stay out of nursing homes and get taken care of in their own home. This will cause more death to the elderly than Covid every could. Patients on Medicaid in nursing home get the very worst of care. There life is cut by at least a decade and what life they do have is nothing but suffering, horrid unhealthy food, almost no actual medical care, 1 RN for 60 patients, 1 MD for hundreds of patients in larger facilities that is only there a couple of hours a day, M-F only, 2 techs for 70 patients, that is 2 techs to clean, bathe, feed, change, as in diapers or bedding. 30 minutes of PT a day at best and with almost no individual PT unless you're in the rehab part of the nursing home.

I speak from personal experience.

And fucking Cuomo forced nursing homes to take in patients with Covid so they shouldn't take up hospital beds.

In one nursing home alone, in Bklyn, over 60 patients died in one month. They died alone, as family was no longer allowed to visit or help care for their elderly loved one.

Cuomo, showed his real Republican nature by refusing to take any tax from the many billionaires in NYS and instead make deep cuts to things that help the poor, especially the elderly poor.

So I have no use for him from before the pandemic.

Now, de Blasio is the one who comes out smelling much more like a rose in this. He stood up to Trump instead of kissing his ass. He wanted to close the city down while Cuomo was still fighting it tooth and nail. If anyone's political career should get a boost from this it's de Blasio and I was no big fan of his although I did vote for him twice as opposed to any Rethug running.

by Anonymousreply 3605/24/2020

Why is a shithole British rag getting involved in our business? They need to go sit down and try to figure out why the U.K. has turned into such a shithole the past 20 years.

by Anonymousreply 3705/24/2020

R33 de blasio was telling people to go to bars the night before the shutdown and he refused to close the schools so Cuomo had to step in and do it for him. Cuomo also coordinated closure with NJ and CT. Closing NY in isolation would have just transferred the problem to nearby states.

by Anonymousreply 3805/24/2020

R33 de blasio was telling people to go to bars the night before the shutdown and he refused to close the schools so Cuomo had to step in and do it for him. Cuomo also coordinated closure with NJ and CT. Closing NY in isolation would have just transferred the problem to nearby states.

by Anonymousreply 3905/24/2020

New York numbers are going down, while trumptardian-land numbers go up.

by Anonymousreply 4005/24/2020

R36 If feelings were paragraphs you’d still have too many!

by Anonymousreply 4105/24/2020

What R40 said. My partner tracks these things for work. Numbers are going up elsewhere

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