Closet Cases who successfully "fooled the world"

Billy Tipton.

Mike Pence

Spencer Tracy

OP OP OP

Liberace

Richard Simmons

Raymond Burr, thanks to his fake family.

Bill Maher - (so I've been told by a close buddy who was in his living room)

Not Liberace

Jack Noseworthy

Really, R8? Why wouldn't he just come out? No one would give a shit. He's fucking ugly, so no women would be disappointed. If anything, they'd be fine.

Most did not fool the entire world, evah, some only fooled those in and via the media. Such as Laurence Olivier, Denholm Elliott.

[bold] The One Where DLers Post A Veritable Wish List Of Handsome Men They Wish Were Gay

[bold] ^^and Raymond Burr

Jack Noseworthy is married to a man and they have a son together. Hardly a closet case.

Closet cases who ain't fooling most....

Lindsey

[quote]Jack Noseworthy is married to a man and they have a son together. Hardly a closet case

he wasn't exactely open about it when he had his 15 minutes of fame

Leonardo

Danny Kaye

John Wayne

Godzilla

Claudette Colbert fooled William Haines, so she must have fooled most everyone with weaker gaydar.

Colbert was a lesbian?

John Wayne

WTF kinda name is "Noseworthy"?

[quote]Colbert was a lesbian?

I’ll say!

Lies R21! Lies!

James Cagney

[bold]The one where YourMillennialFriend makes yet another pissbrained, witless dig about "DLEGs." His Aspie spidey sense tells him that nobody recognizes his inimitably lame writing style or could possibly find him anything other than the very quintessence of hilarity. How wrong he is. Oh, how wrong he is.[/bold]

R8. What does his living room have to do with it?

r26: The only one I've never heard of before as being gay is Cagney. I've been on DL since 2012 and this is the first time I've seen his name. I don't care either way. Have I just missed this and everybody else knows? Actually I know absolutely nothing about his personal life. Great actor though, amazingly powerful screen presence for such a short little not handsome man. Can't even remember how long ago he died. It's been a while. Where's your info from if you care to say?

I leave this thread at Cagney. No credibility.

Tom Selleck

Tom Selleck has been talked about since...what, the '70s? If he fooled the world...it must have been Trump followers only. They are easily fooled.

Definitely Raymond Burr. Even I was shocked when I found out.

The average person does not think Tom Selleck is gay. They think he's a happily married, freeper str8 guy

r34: Well, I live in LA and I did see him with his wife at a movie about 25 years ago (he was still incredibly handsome at the time)--so they're friends at least. And they're still married I guess with an adult kid I think? You never know--plus it's none of our business is it.

The American late night tv hosts(J. Fallon, S. Meyers, S. Colbert, J. Corden, T.Noah, J.Kimmel) minus Conan.

Merideth Baxter Birney was a surprise for me.

Spencer Tracy is the best - brilliant cover of leaving his wife to shack up with Kate Hepburn.

It’s what you call misdirection!

"I leave this thread at Cagney. No credibility."

Homely wife, adopted kids, started out as a drag performer. It's that hard to imagine?!

r23 it's better than spongeworthy

Agree that Meredith Baxter Birney completely fooled me.

Agree that Meredith Baxter Birney completely fooled me.

Rock Hudson

I would say Liberace is #2 on this list. Although he did file lawsuits (and won) against magazines for reporting that he was gay, Liberace didn't ruin many lives and he didn't persecute his own kind. After the lawsuits in the 1970s, Liberace just sort of faded away until he passed away. He claimed to be straight but didn't attack people he didn't know.

The # 1 closet case, in my opinion, is Roy Cohn. Advisor to Donald Trump and Senator Joseph McCarthy, Roy Cohn lead the lavender scare in the 1950s and 1960s seeking out, threatening and blackmailing gay and lesbian government employees. He'd be furious that anyone would even suggest he was gay, but he never answered any questions about his own personal life. He targeted and outed gays and lesbians. Yet, he loved to party at STUDIO 54. Roy Cohn showed the nation live on television that it's okay to harass and threaten members of the LGBT community, then he'd party at gay night clubs. Roy Cohn is the prototype for Aaron Schock, Houston City Councilman Michael Berry and Representative Mark Foley.

The Baywatch guys fooled me.

Kanye West

Leonardo DiCaprio

Brad Pitt

Keanu Reeves

Jamie Fox

Chase Crawford

Will Smith

Vin Diesel

Joseph Gordon-Levitt

Hugh Jackman

Jake Gyllenhaal

Ryan Seacrest

Tom Cruise

If true:

Chris Evans

Matthew McConaughey

Clint Eastwood

Taylor Kinney

Ansel Elgort

James Franco

Closet cases like Chace Crawford, Jamie Fox and Jake Gyllenhaal haven’t succeeded in fooling everyone.

Bradley Cooper

um, Robert Reed

Jared Kushner. He and Lindsey Graham would make a cute daddy/son couple.

No one can tell I'm gay! I'm just too butch

Jack Benny.

Spencer Tracy, apparently.

Hugh Michael Jackman

None. They played their ass.

You really do never know about these things.In the past 2 years,3 people very close to me have come out after living ostensibly heterosexual lives for decades..My brother-in-law,husband to my late sister(35 years of marriage,2 kids),his male best friend(38 years of marriage,4 kids),and a close female friend(30 years of marriage,1 kid). I’ve completely stopped taking any relationship at face-value as a result.And it seems almost everyone I know of the younger generation identifies as sexually fluid in some way.2 nieces for a start.And too many co-workers to mention.

I live in a relatively conservative part of Canada,hardly a liberal bastion of permissiveness.So unless I’m some wild statistical anomaly,it would appear that while I was sleeping there has been a major paradigm shift.

That celebrities in swinging Hollywood would be gay or bisexual behind the scenes should hardly come as a shock.That we have so few confirmed cases is what is most telling.

Timothy Tebow

Aaron Rodgers

Patrick Swayze, if what escort Rafael Alencar says is true.

I AM NOT GAY! I NEVER HAVE BEEN GAY! I LOVE MY WIFE!

But look, sometimes you have to drive out to the rest stop, and there's no TP in your stall, so you tap your foot to the guy next to you, and one thing leads to another.....but it's not gay!

Little Richard (RIP)

Burt Reynolds

Bob Conrad. Most of his fans had no idea.

Bob Hope

Alec Baldwin

That would be nice if COLBERT were gay. I always thought he was CUTE. I want him batting for the gay team.

Little Richard fooled the world?

Never knew Paul Newman played on the down low till I read it on DL. The on-location fun with Cruise on 'Color Of Money' which TC wanted more of but PN wasn't into. Plus someone plausibly here on DL said he'd hooked with PN in New York.

Stories also about Pacino which I don't disbelieve. Post on DL about a friend going on a date with him, but not following up on AP's suggestion of fun. Not his type.

All of the closet cases in football, baseball, hockey, and basketball

[quote] Yet, he loved to party at STUDIO 54. Roy Cohn showed the nation live on television that it's okay to harass and threaten members of the LGBT community, then he'd party at gay night clubs.

Studio 54 was not known as a gay nightclub. Anyone who was anyone back then wanted to be seen there at some point.

If it was a gay club, and Cohn was closeted, do you really think he’d go there? It’s not like he went to Stonewall.

I’m not saying he’s not gay, I don’t know enough about that, but just saying Studio 54 wasn’t a gay nightclub.

George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, Abraham Lincoln, et.al.

Sherman Hemsley

[quote]I've been on DL since 2012

Newby.

Clooney owns this thread.

R71 - You left out Baron Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben and Frederick the Great.

Larry Kramer would be very disappointed in you R71 !

Must admit, I find it difficult to believe George Washington was gay or bisexual as I do not get that vibe. However, I have horrible Gaydar.

General Kitchener

Louisa May Alcott

It was rumored that I liked the peen. But I'm just a turtle, looking for some lettuce for my terrarium. I also love my beautiful wife, Elaine Chao.

Televangelist Jim Baker. Actually, most televangelists.

[quote] Televangelist Jim Baker.

You’re not serious.

Bakker is notorious for the MMF threesomes.

Tony Geary

I once had a boyfriend who had been a very successful underwear model. He then tried a career as a screenwriter. It didn't go far (he was a terrible writer, he got meetings because of his looks) but he did have lunch a few times with Paul Newman, who acted as though he were interested in my ex's scripts, but the ex says Newman was totally coming on to him. He didn't bite though -- he had just broken up with another (lesser) star and didn't want to deal with a closeted actor again -- and, this was later in Newman's career. He still looked great, but not like he did when he was 35.

r83, who was the lesser actor?

Wanda Sykes. I thought she was a dick loving broad until she came out at a rally some ten years ago.

Buck Owens, Roy Clark, Randy Travis, Kenny Chesney, Chris Young, Dustin Lynch, and all of Rascals Flatts.

Debbie Reynolds

J. Edgar Hoover

(He was also rumored to have negro ancestry.)

[quote]Kenny Chesney

Was I fooled or was I in denial?

Mary Martin and Janet Gaynor

Lena Horne

Ethel Waters

Henry Cavill

John Michael Higgins.

Obama, Teddy Roosevelt, Lincoln, Washington

Usually the tops.

Lucy wanted to be gay but Gary talked her out of it.

Bryan Adams, quite a nice time in London

Christian Slater, quite a nice time in Key West

Jesus of Nazareth, notorious bossy bottom.

Everyone was STUNNED when I came out

Richard Nixon

Chris Evans ???

WISHFUL THINKING !!

(I’m right there with u tho)

Burt Young

Lord Baden Powell

Hattie McDaniel

Merv Griffin

Malcolm Forbes

Rock Hudson. I’ll always remember right after he died, the women I worked with just could not believe he was "that way." They had grown up with the image he presented onscreen, and were convinced he had to be straight.

I always tell straight people, "What kind of boys joined the Drama Club at [italic] your [/italic] high school.

R106 - Rock Hudson didn't fool everybody. When I was a kid my mom was a fan of McMillan & Wife. One night at dinner somehow the conversation turned to what movie starts were the most attractive - my dad's choice was Sophia Loren. I turned to my mom and said "you like Rock Hudson, right?" She said, "No, he's too faggy, I love Gregory Peck."

Malcolm Forbes is a good one

Whitney Houston

R106 Didn't they know he was dying of AIDS ? How long was it in the news before he died ?

I have liver cancer!!! Not AIDS!

I think only a few months r111. He was on Dynasty and people were shocked how bad he looked. That started rumors but he said it was heart trouble. I'm not sure if they ever admitted it until he flew to Paris for special treatment and died shortly after.

I grew up in LA and the boy next door's mom knew in the early 60s that Rock Hudson was gay. She had a rich sister that went to some country club where everybody knew everything about everybody. It was probably filled with the parents of future dataloungers. Also, for some reason, as a child I had pretty good gaydar. I knew without being told that Raymond Burr was gay and also Robert Reed. Maybe it was their voices? I have no idea. I did not have gaydar about Rock Hudson. He was a masculine acting guy. One of the best looking movie stars of all time IMO.

[quote][R106] Didn't they know he was dying of AIDS ? How long was it in the news before he died ?

A very short amount of time, maybe a few weeks, if that. He sparked rumors by how old he looked on Dynasty, but by the time it aired it was a few months later, and it all wrapped up for Rock very quickly. It was all very sad.

Clifton Webb

Rumors about Hudson's sexuality abounded when i was a kid.

I first heard the rumor about Rock Hudson and Jim Nabors getting married sometime in 1969.

Marcia Cross, if the rumors were true...

Richard Madden until Brandon Flynn and Froy

Leonard Bernstein

Rex Reed

Roy Cohn. It looks like THE Donald Trump is next to him at Studio 54.

Bobby Sherman

Richard Chamberlain

Kevin Spacey before he came out

A few weeks ago, I read on a thread here that Roger C. Carmel had been gay. Took me by surprise; I'd never heard that before, or even suspected.

John Wayne

If you smoke Camels you get camel toe.

John Wayne wasn't a closet case. However, he was cool and he was accepting, professional and open minded.

Roy Cohn again. He helped to out and ruin gay and lesbian government workers to keep us out of federal and state governments. He didn't feel our nation was safe with gay men or lesbians working in government positions.

But he loved clubbing at STUDIO 54 with men dressed as gladiators and satyrs.

Three friends. Roy advised Donald Trump to never back down and to always attack. No apologies. No explanations.

But I thought Ed Koch just never found the right girl

Excuse me?

David Muir

Is Muir gay?

Ryan Seacrest

Benedict XVI

Spencer Tracy

James Buchanan

Well, the following didn’t fool all the people all of the time, but they thought they were fooling most of the people some of the time:

Rock Hudson, Jim Nabors, Richard Chamberlain and even Johnny Mathis very early on.

Javier Bardem and Penelope Cruz are currently achieving this.

David Muir

PUIG!

R138: I doubt it. Javier Bardem and Penelope Cruz were well known in Spain way before going to Hollywood. Of course Pe's relationship with Tom Cruise was totally fake, but she had some real ones in Spain way before becoming really famous.

Javier Bardem comes from a very known leftist family. He has a good bunch of gay friends and he played gay roles even when he was stereotyped as iberic macho in his first prominent roles. He was able to not put himself in a box and had success on comedies too. He seems open minded but he is not gay

Woy Cohn wasn’t gay and I’m the dame who can pwove it!

I don't think most straight people know about David Muir

R141. Yes, I am aware because I am Spanish. But this is what we - Spanish gays I know in and out of the business - believe to be true.

Didn't know about Mike Nichols and Richard Avedon till the latter's recent biography.

R124, The whole of gay London in the late 90s knew about Kevin Spacey. He wasn’t exactly discreet!

I'd be surprised if Jimmy Cagney was gay, if only because he's in one of my favorite Old Hollywood gossip items: once on the same train as Merle Oberon, the two hooked up until Merle said mid-act "I can't believe I'm fucking JAMES CAGNEY!" loud enough that he was sure others could hear it. He deflated and left.

The gossip item shows up in a more tasteful form in this review of a Cagney bio from 1998:

[quote]There are no revelations of a closeted life here, though McCabe allows that Noel Coward probable wrote "Mad About the Boy" in homage to Cagney. McCabe also insists on Cagney's fidelity to Frances Willard "Willie" Cagney, James' first and only wife. After being lured into a train berth with a nude and adoring Merle Oberon, Cagney abruptly extricated himself when the great beauty cried out in joy.

[quote]The whole of gay London in the late 90s knew about Kevin Spacey. He wasn’t exactly discreet!

Tell me about it!

R128 John Wayne was a coward, a racist, and ruined many lives with his anti- Communist witch-hunt in Hollywood.

Yassir Arafat. He liked blonde, surfer boys.

Beat me to it, R150. (But for some reason DL won't let me link, so your post is better than mine would have been.)

What is your opinion about Arafat based on?

David Muir might be gay, but he's not out to kill or ruin anyone. He's not targeting / harming LGBTQ people. I don't think he's lying about anything, and he's not issuing false news about his sexuality, so I wouldn't consider him a closet case. Every news reporter doesn't have to share their personal lives.

Christopher Keys, of Macon, Georgia, closeted preacher, married with kids, and frequenter of the Regency Inn.

R153, TMI.

One could easily argue "none of them"... They simply fooled themselves out of living a fully self actualised, less complicated, or more normal life.

r152, straight male news anchors don't hide their wives or gossip, although I do give Muir props for not bearding up

Bobby Sherman wins this thread.

The Happy Hooker outed these two in her memoirs.

Really? Robert Goulet was a friend of Dorothy? I am surprised.

Carol Lawrence?

Carol Lawrence and Robert Gouket?!?!??

Robert Goulet and Carol Lawrence?!?!

Roberto Goulet???

Carol Lawrence could be difficult.

During the Broadway run of Subways Are For Sleeping, she insisted that featured actress Phyllis Newman not be allowed to watch her from the wings during all performances.

It must have been a jealousy issue, for Phyllis won a Tony Award and Carol wasn't even nominated.

The Happy Hooker? What did she say about Goulet?

Miss Jerry Ford.

Robert Mitchum

All the women who love Keanu and think he is really dating that gray haired chick

Most of the names on this thread "fooled" no one. Hell even my mum in 1966 knew Rock Hudson was gay.

Charlie Hunnam

Connor Jessup and Miles Heizer

Connor Jessup was never a closet case R170

RDJ.

Dick Van Dyke always pinged to me.

R165 I always thought Steven Ford was gay.

Taye Diggs

R170 Connor, who can easily pass as straight out of the two, is the one who actually came out while Miles is technically still closeted to the public. He's yet to comment on his relationship with Connor (of two years!). What an ungrateful bottom.

Come out, David Muir!

Clooney. Any time I've brought this up I get the old, "NO fucking WAY!" thrown back at me. No one believes this, NO ONE.

I don't believe half the silly wishful-thinking suggestions here.

It's this kind of silly wishful-thinking that make us look like fools.

Charlie Hunnam - overcompensating

Has there ever been a less gay-acting gay than Will Geer?

"It's this kind of silly wishful-thinking that make us look like fools."

Were you one of the ones who insisted that Wentworth Miller was just a shy virgin?

^ Wentworth Miller is living in the 21st century when people are more forthcoming about their private life.

But silly speculation about 20th century men (without a SHRED of evidence) is just silly.

r183, many of the names mentioned in this thread are widely rumored to be gay outside of the datalounge

^ And lots of those farcical rumours have been spread by the idiotic, muck-raking, shyster seminarian Donald Spotto.

Cary Grant.

Billy Preston

Leonardo Nam from Westworld.

I met him at an industry mixer back in 2012. I was joking around that he was in a movie with both Captain America and Black Widow before they were A-list and he just laughed.

He was really sweet. Asian dude with a thick Australian accent. I had no idea he was family. Now he has a husband and twin boys. Good for him!

Captain Kangaroo

Now that Bob Conrad is dead, maybe some of his young twinks will talk about sex with him.

r188, he's cute

I suppose Clooney has fooled a lot of people who don't live in the vicinity of his casa.

Gene Hackman, from what I've heard.

[quote] But silly speculation about 20th century men (without a SHRED of evidence) is just silly.

And on a gay gossip forum, of all places!

Spencer Tracy

John Goodman.

Harry Andrews

Dolly seems to be successful in fooling her straight conservative audience by giving interviews like the one she recently gave to People. I think she is full of shit. And I really wonder how Dolly makes it up to Judy at these times.

Every vaguely good looking actor, musician, athlete or politician who was married to a woman

[Quote] I really wonder how Dolly makes it up to Judy

She motorboats here I presume.

[quote]R47 Clint Eastwood

It’s difficult to think of a less likely candidate for gayhood than him. He is not dimensional enough to have experienced anything that wasn’t mainstream.

Whereas shark eyed Roy Cohn had many sides...

Billy Ray Cyrus

I lived in Tennessee in the early nineties and Billy Ray dipped into the "D" pool a lot. He bought a private house outside of Nashville to live with his boy toys.

But people got suspicious so he married Leticia Jean "Tish" Finley and the rest is history.

Billy Ray Cyrus

I lived in Tennessee in the early nineties and Billy Ray dipped into the "D" pool a lot. He bought a private house outside of Nashville to live with his boy toys.

But people got suspicious so he married Leticia Jean "Tish" Finley and the rest is history.

R89 Kenny is soooo gay. She claimed fraud because he wouldn't have sex with her, simple as that.

[quote]R202 Whereas shark eyed Roy Cohn had many sides...

I think he did, actually. He was highly intelligent.

Barbara Walters was the Grace to his Will.... freaky as that may be.

[quote] Was I fooled or was I in denial?

Oh, dear dear Renee...

R152 I am not the author of the previous comment, but I heard the same thing about Yassir Arafat from a very well-traveled gay man. It was about 18 years ago at an international health conference in Seattle, he told it to me like can you believe this? He said he hadn’t ever been with Arafat himself, but he had heard about it many times from multiple gay men.

Burt Reynolds

Former NY Mets heart throb Mike Piazza.

R203 I'm guessing Tish is bi too.

Clint Eastwood may have used the casting couch, but he is relentlessly heterosexual.

Eastwood was a prissy bitch ("Have you brushed your teeth, Sondra?"). I can see it.

Chuck Connors

R214, Definitely!

Bob Conrad not only fooled the world, he fooled himself. Apparently, despite constant sex with blond twinks, he believed he was straight and sex with young boys was just, you know, helping them along with their careers and their lives. He was an altruist, not a homosexualist.

If Burt Reynolds was gay, then why was his divorce from Loni Anderson so incredibly bitter? They fought in court over money and their (adopted) kid for years.

Because some people are switch hitters, with a preference for one sex over the other (not INSTEAD of the other).

I've heard things about Robin Williams.

R219, I've heard he's dead.

R219, I’ve also heard he’s not fucking funny.

I don't believe Bill Maher is gay. He talks about eating pussie Once he was caught and there were pics of him with blood all over his mouth. I can't see a gay man doing that. Women have raved about him in bed.

Both Ivanka and Jared Kushner.

Apparently, Quinn Cummings is good friends with Eric's goomah. She thinks he loves her and that's why he tells her the family secrets.

"His brother in law, Animal Killer, had a goomah. What passed for pillow talk from him? Telling the goomah about how his sister liked girls but his brother in law, didn't. "

It's like, nobody cares what he does with his personal life, but this is a huge national security risk. Foreign countries are no doubt using it to get him to influence the Yeti.

Here is the original post that Quinn did on this.

R223 Do lesbians have "seducing and getting fucked by my step mom" fantasies?

I have simply not met the right girl yet...

A girl who is of my high social standing and good moral character

The best Republican families understand this

Richard Madden

Andrew Gillum

R223 Isn’t it Jared Kushner’s brother who is gay? He and Taylor Swift’s ex girlfriend recently got married.

Daniel J. Travanti on "Hill Street Blues"... Captain Frank Furillo

Jim Carrey

Jim Carrey

John Mahoney, but it was pretty easy hiding in plain sight on Frasier. The eye was going to hit a lot of targets before it landed on him!

Paul Newman.

Newman"s bi at best.

40 years ago my art teacher disclosed that Dick Clark was gay. Before becoming a teacher, she was a make-up artist in Los Angeles.

He gave me a neck rub when I was seated at the Pyramid, r236. At the time I wondered if he was being a bit handsy.

^ a long, long *time* ago

Dick Clark is NOT gay and I'm the dame to prove it!

Tony Danza

New evidence pwovides poof!

Barbara Stanwyck.

Never heard any rumors, but Lebron James has always struck me as a huge closet case.

R11, women don't care about looks.

Richard Madden

Froy Gutierrez

Brandon Flynn

[Quote] women don't care about looks.

Women who have their own care about looks.

Dom DeLuise...

David DeLuise.

WHO THE FUCK IS Jack Noseworthy?

Carol Burnett and Julie Andrews.

Peter Falk Burt Lancaster

Bill Dakota's list of Bi Stars.

Tom Jones and Elvis

Peter Falk was not gay

Lee Majors.

Matt Dillon

Majors is a good one

Nick Adams

Clint Eastwood

Harry Belafonte

Steve McQueen. Leo Lerman wrote that he witnessed McQueen take a guy behind a tree and give him a blow job.

Glen Campbell

r263, didn't Lerman also say Yul Brynner was closeted or am I thinking of someone else?

Tom Jones talks about Elvis singing to him in the shower.

TJ: Maybe he was checking me out - I don't know. But I closed the door and finished in the shower and then I stepped out to towel down in the main part of the bathroom - only to find that Elvis was still there and that, moreover, he had clearly taken advantage of his time alone to avail himself of the facilities and take a dump in the toilet. He was wearing, on this particular evening, a North Beach leather suit. A lot of us had them at that time - natural leather with a lot of give in it, and stitching all along the edges. But unlined, so a bit of a struggle to put on. Therefore, when I emerged from the shower, the exact sight that greeted me was of Elvis, leaning against the sink, washing his hands, with his back to me and with his leather North Beach trousers and his underwear still around his ankles. .

Yes R265. Another closet case.

Babs Stanwyck

Yassir Arafat was outed in the memoirs of a Romanian intelligence officer, who defected to the US from Russia, confirming what many others had known for years.

I don't think the world cared but (a long time ago) I dated an actor who claimed to be straight but was discovered by Tennessee Williams, got hired by Bobby Conrad on Baa Baa Blacksheep and ended up on the series OZ. That's got to be some kind of gay trifecta.

Elvis would have surrounded himself with much better looking men if he had been gay.

Elvis was no fag.

Elvis surrounded himself with a few very goodlooking men he passed off as his "cousins" when, in fact, they were not related.

James Daly.

A friend of mine told me something about James Cagney. The friend was an actor and director. He had managed a Holiday Inn in a Boston suburb at one time. Cagney was in his 50s or 60s at this time and lived on Martha's Vineyard. The friend said every year Cagney would check into the motel for a few days with another guy the same age. Everybody assumed it was a relationship. I guess because Cagney was married and why would he not have his friend visit him at home, or vice-versa? Or they picked up on the vibes. Maybe only one bed was unmade. lol. I don't remember.

It was rumored that he and Noel Coward liked each other, and Coward wrote Mad About The Boy about Cagney. But I also read a rumor about Merle Oberon and Cagney, so he may have been bi.

Coming from the New England area, I heard a lot of rumors, even when I was in high school. Apparently a lot of actors felt they could get together with more freedom on the Cape or in Maine, and when they were doing summer stock. One of my friends' dads referred to Raymond Burr as gay, I also heard that Rock Hudson and Jim Nabors were gay, and Van Johnson. A girl I knew worked summers in Dunfey's Hyannis (hotel) and a lot of rumors about visiting celebs were always swirling around there. My family went on vacation in Ogunquit (where the summer playhouse is) and sometimes you'd hear about a celeb renting a house and having gay parties.

Spencer Tracy - I used to wonder if he was gay, for various reasons (gayday mainly) but is Scottie Bowers the only proof? He had a lot of serious affairs with women, not just Hepburn but also Loretta Young, and he pursued Joan Fontaine, Gene Tierney, and Grace Kelly.

*gaydar

There were a couple of good looking men around Elvis. I have never read or heard Elvis in any interview claim he was related to them. Here is a picture of the Memphis Mafia. I still think a handsome, rich, and famous man would have surrounded himself with better looking men if gay.

I wish I could find the interview where one of the Memphis Mafia discussed the parties they used to have. Elvis would open the gates and the girls would go up to the house. One of them counted one time this happened. There were over 100 girls and 7 men. That doesn't seem gay to me.

Elvis liked bubba types

Nick Adams was a hit with both Bob Conrad and Elvis. Short, but allegedly one of the more well-hung actors in the mid-50s. Successful TV show "The Rebel." Offed himself with a massive drug OD at 36.

Chadwick Boseman Stevie Nicks (bi leaning lesbian) Prince Will Smith Probably lots more in Hollywood

Me!!

I doubt Chadwick went to the trouble of marrying his bear as his death loomed...

*beard

R200 - I love the look of Johnny Reb in his permanent-press gaberdine slacks.

Elvis wasn't gay, he liked underage female virgins. After he fucked Priscilla he was no longer interested because she was damaged goods.

R270 -- Tell is who that is please.

He's not out.

R286 Elvis stopped having sex with Priscilla after she gave birth. Elvis had a thing about fucking mothers.

hugh hefner. end of discussion.

[quote]John Mahoney, but it was pretty easy hiding in plain sight on Frasier. The eye was going to hit a lot of targets before it landed on him!

R233 I always thought he was gay, long before Frazier.

Bob Hope

The *best* closet cases are the ones you cannot guess🤔. Most likely, several of the “he’s definitely straight, no rumors, he’s married with kids, he’s religious, his friend is a homophobe” crowd...

Whenever I hear that some celebrity is “still married to his high school sweetheart!“, that’s when I wonder if they’re actually gay but deep in the closet.

Jay Hernandez - the current Magnum PI

R280, Wasn't Nick Adams once involved with Richard Chamberlain?

R262 I heard that rumor ages ago. The old AGC.com Google newsgroups. This eccentric old man named Ambrose Meineke set a poster straight (pun intended). Said poster claimed that Farley Granger was hot for Harry. But Ambrose said that it wasn’t true. Someone didn’t like Harry’s involvement in the civil rights movement and the rumors were spread. Maybe Hoover spread it.

Kofi Siriboe.

David Tyler Jason Muir!

R297, what makes you think the Ambrose guy was an authority?

The Jock Jamz at EMU!

Her.

R287 - It was this guy.

R280 - he probably did when they starred in the movie "Twilight of Honor" which was released in 1963.

Oops the above was for R296

If we're talking about them they're not good candidates.

Roger Federer. For some reason, even people here do not believe that he's gay. And he is.

Ditto for Benedict Cumberbatch.

Trey Gowdy

Pinger who chaired "but her Emails" & Benghazi hearings.

Disciples Judas & John

R300, he seemed knowledgeable? And so many people had confirmed other dish that he had posted. I guess no one is 100% right all the time.

Federer is gay? Whaaat?

R309 Judas Iscariot was so obvious.

R307 King Roger? Please say it’s legit. My closeted best friend from high school had the biggest ‘crush’ on him, and would never listen to me suggesting that she wasn’t fooling anyone with that.

[quote]I would say Liberace is #2 on this list.

Are you headless? Liberace fooled nobody, except maybe a few simple-minded fraus, even during the height of his career in the 1950s. There's a difference between trying to fool people, with his lawsuit against Confidential magazine and his "watermelon diet" when he was dying of AIDS, and actually fooling them.

But didn't Liberace win the lawsuit?

Former Governor of Virginia Terry McAuliffe wrote about an interesting encounter with Arafat in his memoir:

“When Arafat arrived at the restaurant, Hani had him sit right next to me. We talked about what was happening in the Middle East and Arafat had all kinds of questions about U.S. politics and of course about Bill Clinton. The dinner soon became somehow comical for me. Arafat would get very animated when he spoke and every time he was making a point, he would lean over and rub my leg under the table. He'd be saying something to the whole table full of people and then would look right at me, emphasizing a point, and rub up and down my leg....Finally it was time to go and as we stood up to shake hands Arafat laid a big ole wet kiss right on my lips. I wasn't ready for that one.”

Wow! Does no one know about Van Johnson? Louis B. destroyed the marriage of Keenan Wynn. That freed up his wife to beard and marry Van Johnson. It was super scuzzy!

I don't believe that. If the Wynns were happily married, they wouldn't have gone along with it. TPTB could easily have found an unrelated woman to join Johnson in matrimony.

[quote]But didn't Liberace win the lawsuit?

Liberace settled with Confidential in 1957. He did win a libel lawsuit against the London Daily Mirror in 1959 for running a column insinuating that he was gay at a time when being openly gay in England was illegal.

None of which constitutes "fooling the world." He was a huge pansy and everyone knew it.

And they let him have a high flying career?

[quote]And they let him have a high flying career?

Who the hell are "they"? Liberace's peak success was in the 1950s, when homosexuality was barely talked about, including in the press. Liberace claimed that skater Sonja Henie was the love of his life (but, sadly, she married someone else), and he was making a lot of money for a lot of people. He never came out, even late in his career when he was wearing sequined costumes that would embarrass a Las Vegas showgirl, because he was afraid of losing his adoring female fans, who by then didn't give a fuck whether he was gay or not. End of story.

[Quote] who by then didn't give a fuck whether he was gay or not.

Y'all type this shit all the time. "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" is not the same thing as indifference.

"On-screen, Johnson embodied bland, unthreatening, boyishness. Off-screen, he was an introvert with a mysterious personal life, and by 1947, Van’s lack of a lady friend was becoming a distraction. In a bizarre effort at damage control, Van married his best friend’s wife — on the same day as their divorce."

Taylor Swift, Clooney, and Roger Federer; for some reason no one believes this, NO ONE.

Clooney really is the current gold standard for Armored Glass Closet. No idea how he pulled it off with such aplomb.

I'm don't think Clooney fooled anyone with the wedding circus which was a page straight out of the Thom/Cat playbook. It raised more questions than it settled.

R326, Clooney was previously married to Talia Balsam, now Mrs. John Slattery.

Van Johnson is a good one. It would have shocked people in the 40s and 50s to learn he was a 'mo

Yes r327/pr, I know he was married to Talia. I'm glad she was wiser the second time around and married a straight guy. She seems lovely and John has aged well.

"Adrienne!"

R330 reminded me, I have no idea how Alex Band has gotten away with it, either..

DTM

He has successfully made all women think he is straight.

Behind the scenes, we all know he loves the boys!

Michael Cohen in his book "Disloyal" reveals that Corey Lewandowski was fired for shopping the story of Jared Kushner's sexual orientation to the Enquirer. Cohen also says Ivanka cried when Jared's father told Jared he couldn't marry Ivanka as she was not an Orthodox Jew. I'm so confused. Again.

Benedict XVI

r333, that's juicy!

Who's Jared's bf?

[quote]Who's Jared's bf?

Eric Trump. That's what Eric is part of "the community."

Perhaps I'm confused, r336. But I read Quinn's Twitterings as Eric confiding in Eric's goomah. If Eric and Jared are lovers, why would Eric have a goomah to whom he's confiding about Don Jr being gay? Can someone please straighten me out, no straighten this out for me please?

I don't know about the world but James Mitchell aka Palmer Cortlandt of All My Children fooled my mother and her friends.

James Mitchell was a dancer (he's "Dream Curly" in the movie of "Oklahoma!"), so he probably didn't fool too many people.

Watch what you say, bitch.

Fran Tarkenton.

Roger Staubach.

During the rise of her star Whitney did for a while, until she hit her peak and the whole thing with Robyn came to light.

Even now with the truth fully out and no secrets left, there are some straights and fundies who refuse to acknowledge that their songbird was also a bisexual who had a female soulmate & life-partner.

Roger Staubach? No way.

Ross Butler

That whole Keenan Wynn thing is so out there. Evie Wynn is told by LB Mayer to divorce Wynn and marry Van Johnson, and she did it.

"She characterized MGM chief Louis B. Mayer as someone with "the ethics and morals of a cockroach," and said Mayer put it to her plainly: "Unless I married Van Johnson, he wouldn't renew Keenan's contract. I was young and stupid enough to let Mayer manipulate me.""

I've heard John Goodman is gay

Whitney was ask about lesbian rumors on TV in 1987 (3:30). That was pretty major.

Macron

^^^thanks R347. Like you said, in context that is a crazy conversation.

The way she said, “I’m particular, that’s all” sent me. It’s such a pity the Church and her grifty family had such a hold on her that she felt the need to defend herself so vehemently about her relationship with Robyn. That’s not even getting into the general lesbiphobia of the time (yes, it did exist). 23 was so young an age to be dealing with all that she did, and it’s awful to think that she had to cope with shaming about the real love she felt for a woman on top of all that.

Whitney interviews never get old. There’ll never be another Nippy.

A lot of people won't face the truth about Whitney

Can you blame them? Even Robyn minimized their romance in her book, to the point that the most desperate straightwashers tried to argue that "child" Whitney was groomed by "adult" Robyn (they are only something like a year and a half apart in age), and that their sexual relationship was at best experimentation. But Robyn tells on herself when she details how Whitney fired a dancer who was spending time with Robyn, and slapped Robyn over the "betrayal."

R344 does the world even know who Ross is??

Was Robert Conrad really gay? I never thought he was handsome or sexy, because he seemed so mean and cruel. He always looked angry. What kind of a person was he? Was he mentally and physically abusive. Am I wrong?

You are right R353. He was physically abusive to his wives and he was abusive to his tricks, blond twinks who he bottomed for, but then liked to beat up afterward. My friend C. (he posts on this board too so...) had an affair with him and said it was both amazing, because RC was so incredibly handsome, and terrifying, because RC was also so dangerously loopy.

RC seemed like the kind of guy who'd beat up male hustlers

I couldn’t watch him or look at his photos. He gave me the creeps.

How long after cumming did Conrad wait before flinging his cum in tricks' faces and punching them from all sides as they were blinded?

Emmanuel Macron. Time to come out Monsieur le Président, every French knows and they don't care at all

R352 He was previously on one of Netflix's most popular shows. He's "supposedly claims to be too busy to date", hangs out with Courtney Love and once posted that one of the Golden Girls characters gave him the feels.

He's charmingly geeky. He posted a very earnest video about Asian-American pride.

R359 i know Ross from Teen Wolf and Riverdale. But i thought he was dating Camila?

R361 Ross Butler wasn't on Teen Wolf but those Teen Beach movies. Charles Melton was the one who previously dated Camilla Mendes and he replaced Ross on Riverdale as Reggie.

R362 Ross was on Teen Wolf. He gets fucked by Malia.

Teen Beach? Ross might have made sweet sweet love to Gary?

I stand corrected r363 because I had completely forgotten about that.

John Goodman never really hid it. The gays simply didn't speculate about a lard-ass very much.

I just read the title of this thread as "Chevy Chase Successfully Fooled The World."

Isn't John Goodman married but separated?

The guys who are really successful at fooling the world are the ones that are not conventionally attractive at all, to the extent that nobody thinks about in a sexual way at all.

Somebody like Dom DeLuise. He was pretty queeny in his mannerisms, but he was married with kids, and he was morbidly obese, so nobody wanted to think about him fucking anything, be it male or female, and he managed to slip under the radar of most people.

Same with Louie Anderson, except people found out because he got blackmailed and had to go to the cops and it went public. If that hadn't happened, who would have even bothered to care?

Billy Preston too. He wasn't an unattractive guy, but he was no heartthrob either. He seemed sort of asexual, if anything. Again, if there hadn't been that scandal with the Mexican day laborer, I doubt anybody would have given it a second thought.

I admit to being surprised when Clive Davis came out as bi. Another one you just don't want to think about having sex with anybody.

Anthony Perkins

Katharine Hepburn

Tab Hunter, who finally came out late in life when he wrote his memoirs.

Alfred Lunt and Lynn Fontanne. Eva LaGalliene.

Incredibly, Justin Timberlake.

The Me of my youth can hardly believe it. Maybe we switched timeline c.2003.

R54 Ha! He would own the "Least Sucessfully Fooled" thread.

Raymond Burr

Timbaland. I think he had something with Justin.

[quote] If Burt Reynolds was gay, then why was his divorce from Loni Anderson so incredibly bitter? They fought in court over money and their (adopted) kid for years.

Because he also wanted her tits in the divorce.

All these names; maybe one should ask instead: who is straight?

Drake & Josh.

Literally no-one irl believes me when I say they’re gay. I’m like just look at them??

I met these two gay caterers who worked upscale events in the Palm Beach area. They'd been around Burt Reynolds for years and I asked them if he was gay. They said no and we wouldn't want him on our side either.

Has Travolta taken a peek outside his closet lately? I remember his antics with porn daddy Paul Barresi in the steamroom at the Beverly Hills Health Club around the time Travolta was making "Perfect" there. Barresi said he was summoned to the Bel Air Hotel where he met JT and his new "trainer." His parting gift was a half-full bottle of champagne and a cheese basket. That's when Barresi decided to go to the Enquirer and subsequently faced the wrath of Scientology which did everything possible to bring him down.

Vincent Price. And don't chew me out if that's upthread. I needed to get it off my chest.

Even as a kid, I was like, what is up with that guy? He's a big man, but he gives me a motherly vibe.

[quote]Vincent Price. And don't chew me out if that's upthread. I needed to get it off my chest.

His third wife, the actress Coral Browne, had dalliances with women as well as men.

But Vincent is confirmed, right?

Patrick Wilson: straight.

Tom Holland - gay with a hot for daddies, take one to know one, bitch Paul Ryan - gay who like other gay who work out. He is probably those who post body pic as profile on grindr Jimmy Kimmel - bisexual who like young guy and young girl, 20 something of course Robert Downey Jr - Bisexual Leontyn Price - famous opera legend and a lesbian Stephen Colbert - Straight but has experienced gay sex in his youth Barack Obama - straight but discover an attraction to man in college Michelle Obama - straight but desperately hide her manliness, she is the real man in the house Lindsey Graham - straight as a light pole but constantly mocked because of how she embrace her masculine side John Mayer - bisexual who into twink Caitlyn Jenner - man?woman?lesbian?straight? She is EVERYTHING. Stewie Griffin - 100% gay Christina Aguilera - probably bisexual Alicia Keys - she is straight but she look like a lesbian in 2002-2004, I get why people suspect Steven Tyler - in some way you can say he is lesbian since he is, in fact, Julia Roberts in disguise Henry Cavill - trying to act straight, but the real Henry is a sassy gay boy with limited intelligence. I bet he loves purse and fur coat Whitney Houston - straight but has dabbled into a lesbian relationship Eminem - gay and into twink

Todd Christley

R387 needs to learn that bad gossip is more convincing in paragraph form.

R387 I buy only about Cavill😂

Chjjhhoo

Leontyne Price was lez?? Whaaaatt? Details, now!!!

I agree about Colbert. I'm pretty sure he's a suppressed bisexual (Catholicism) but has dabbled. He's intelligent enough to know who he is. He used to have a huge crush on Anderson Cooper.

Eminem? That's a new one to me.

I would have liked to know Vincent Price. Fabulous cook, I think.

R378 cavill Gay????

R393 oh, I’m not worried about Marshall. He’s talented, sometimes.

R395 for R387

R395 you can see his gayness from Space!

R44, how could Roy Cohn be an advisor for Trump, when he died in 1986?

R398 you mean his assbuns?

Emmanuel Macron. Though half of Paris knows.

R392 Lesbian LOVES opera. There are more lesbian saprano than you can imagine.

R402 I know, but why precisely Leontyne?

R403 then, I actually have a shot with Stephanie d’Oustrac? Praise Goddess!

Yeah R402, who are those opera lesbians???

[quote]how could Roy Cohn be an advisor for Trump, when he died in 1986?

For R399.

Corey Feldman, if bisexual inhuman wreckage counts.

Say what you want about ol’ Turnaround Haim, at least he was relatively honest for the time about what was up with him and recognised he had some serious damage.

Scott Caan

Roy Cohn was Trump’s enforcer atty until his death. Trump has bemoaned not having a Roy Cohn as AG - that is until Barr who has done everything possible in fill the role. BTW, Cohn also did the same services for all the rest of the mobsters (aside from Trump). Roy was a sexual pig who devoured youths like he devoured anyone against him. Pre-Trump he was the evil behind the McCarthy Witch Hunts. Died of AIDS miserably alone, unapologetic and still denying being gay. That is the man Trump wishes for.

Mother and grandmother never knew until I told them.

qwerty.

Only we know the truth...

John Wayne -- the hot pants and camel toe give him away.

Test

Prince.

Former associates have even come forward and said he is bisexual, but fundie fantrolls refuse to acknowledge or accept it.

[quote]Former associates have even come forward and said he is bisexual

Well, not anymore he isn't.

Rider Strong.

Ben Savage could not have hidden if he tried. But Rider skated under the radar.

I’ve lost all respect for Ben Savage after Trina McGee’s revelations about mistreatment by the cast. Plus, his rhinoplasty is really bad.

Robbie Benson Michael Landon Jack Benny Glen Campbell

Dolly P.

Matt Damon

TOO MANY

Jake Gyllenhaal, Charlie Hunnam, Mark Wahlberg, Matt Damon, Calvin Harris, Chase Crawford, Vin Diesel, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Hugh Jackman, Elijah Wood, Tyler Perry, Justin Timberlake, Ryan Seacrest, Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Justin Bieber, Taylor Lautner, David Archuleta, Kellan Lutz, ALL One Direction Band members, Joe Jonas, Seann William Scott, Jeremy Renner, Jamie Foxx, Shawn Mendes, Tom Hardy, Will Smith, Bruno Mars, Jared Leto, Leonardo DiCaprio, Kenny Chesney, Keith Urban, Darren Criss, Kanye West, George Clooney, P. Diddy, 50 Cent, The Situation, Zac Efron, Hulk Hogan, Daniel Radcliffe, Ne-Yo, John Legend, Robbie Williams, Tom Hiddleston, Robert Pattinson, Jonathan rhys meyers, .......

Jared Leto, Leonardo DiCaprio, Justin Bieber, Charlie Hunnam???? What?!!! Are you on high?

"Nico Greetham"

R383, Tallulah Bankhead once allowed Vincent into her bedroom one morning, pulled back the covers and graciously let him suck off husband John Emery's huge cock while he was still sleeping.

In the recent interview just last week, Jimmy Kimmel jokingly said this ti Charlie Hunnam. He joked but dropped a hint at the same time.

Calvin Harris? That’s a new one.

It should be read as Henry Cavill not Calvin Harris

Calvin Harris "dated" two lesbos back to back; Taylor Swift and Rita Ora... sketchy

Rita is bi.

[quote]Rita is bi.

Are people still trying to make Rita Orr "happen"? It's a lost cause.

^^ Rita Ora, I meant. I couldn't even remember her damned name.

Maluma

Ruta Lee

Elton John. THAT shocked me

R433 I don’t care she’s gay, as long as her pound cake recipe doesn’t change

Ryan Philippe? Not too sure about that; the rumors come and go. But several people have posted here about his alleged same-sex encounters.

Cthulhu

Sandy Bullock