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"Preheating" the oven is all BS right?

Every damn thing you cook tells you to "preheat" the oven. It's just a big time waster and I've never bothered with it. What am I missing?

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by Anonymousreply 56May 9, 2020 8:17 PM

Children die every time someone doesn’t preheat an oven. It’s literal murder.

by Anonymousreply 1May 7, 2020 9:24 PM

You need to have a proper starting point where you can be sure your dish isn't under, or over, cooked. Different ovens have different times when they reach their optimum temperature for cooking the dish.

by Anonymousreply 2May 7, 2020 9:28 PM

'What am I missing?'

A properly cooked meal? Maybe you don't notice because you have no taste.

by Anonymousreply 3May 7, 2020 9:29 PM

I've found that preheating only shortens the cooking time a few minutes. You're still using energy to heat the oven. I almost never preheat anymore. I just add a few minutes to the cooking time.

If I'm reheating something, I put it in for bout 10 min., then turn the oven off and leave it there for another 5-10 to make use of the energy used to generate that residual heat.

Everything tastes fine.

by Anonymousreply 4May 7, 2020 9:30 PM

Please stop cooking. Anyone who fails so miserably at basic logic should not be anywhere near an open flame.

by Anonymousreply 5May 7, 2020 9:31 PM

For baking it is very important that you preheat.

For cooking, it's not really important, but preheating makes cooking easier. You can cook things consistently by knowing what was the temperature when you put it and how long it should take. Otherwise it is a guessing game of when it is done.

by Anonymousreply 6May 7, 2020 9:31 PM

I'm going to preheat the oven when I make my DUTCH BABY on Sunday.

by Anonymousreply 7May 7, 2020 9:39 PM

R1 But preheating is a waste of time when you throw the children in the oven

by Anonymousreply 8May 7, 2020 9:41 PM

The witch in Hansel and Gretel would disagree with you R8

by Anonymousreply 9May 7, 2020 9:44 PM

As r6 said, it’s very important for baking.

by Anonymousreply 10May 7, 2020 9:52 PM

Do you have to be shirtless and buff to preheat the oven?

by Anonymousreply 11May 7, 2020 9:55 PM

Don't invite me over for cake, OP.

by Anonymousreply 12May 7, 2020 9:56 PM

I don't bother preheating. I mean, if you're baking, obviously it's important. Otherwise, I can't be bothered.

by Anonymousreply 13May 7, 2020 9:57 PM

Martha - what say you?

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by Anonymousreply 14May 7, 2020 10:12 PM

There are only two states an oven can be: heated or unheated.

by Anonymousreply 15May 7, 2020 11:05 PM

…and preheated.

by Anonymousreply 16May 7, 2020 11:08 PM

Unless the oven is at absolute zero it has heat.

by Anonymousreply 17May 7, 2020 11:22 PM

R3 and I just got engaged!

by Anonymousreply 18May 7, 2020 11:28 PM

It's really only an issue for baking.

by Anonymousreply 19May 7, 2020 11:29 PM

Who is the guy shown in the OP?

by Anonymousreply 20May 7, 2020 11:39 PM

Gotta preheat if you want things to come out crispy like chicken nuggets or roasted potatoes. Sometimes it’s even a good thing to preheat the baking pan first before you put the food (tossed with olive oil) in. I do frozen broccoli like this and it always comes out nicely charred.

by Anonymousreply 21May 7, 2020 11:42 PM

preheating ensures the inside cooks at the same rate as the inside. if you cook a frozen pizza without preheating the cheese and toppings will burn but the crust will be soft and underdone

by Anonymousreply 22May 7, 2020 11:45 PM

*outside

by Anonymousreply 23May 7, 2020 11:46 PM

You absolutely MUST preheat the oven when cooking a Yorkshire pudding. If you don't, it comes out all wrong. This rule also applies for many dough/pastry-type things.

by Anonymousreply 24May 7, 2020 11:59 PM

Ah, yes. Popovers.

by Anonymousreply 25May 8, 2020 12:02 AM

Everyone's favorite bread is burnt to a crisp on the outside and still doughy on the inside.

by Anonymousreply 26May 8, 2020 12:08 AM

R16 missed the point entirely.

by Anonymousreply 27May 8, 2020 12:11 AM

One thing I've discovered is that you don't need to start heating the water before you put pasta or potatoes in to boil. You can start them in cold water. But you'll need to adjust the cooking time and check for doneness rather than depending on the package directions or your recipe.

by Anonymousreply 28May 8, 2020 12:12 AM

Is this new draining pasta thread??

by Anonymousreply 29May 8, 2020 2:36 AM

I live by the meat thermometer. As above stated, for baking it's necessary to preheat. For general cooking, shove that thermometer in the thickest part of your meat, turn on the recommended temperature for the recipe. It will take a little longer to cook, but it's always the perfect cooked to the perfect temperature. I cook bacon in the oven. Tray lined with parchment paper, set for 425, place in non preheated oven and baked to perfection in 20 minutes or less. I buy reduced salt bacon, which tends to be thinner, and may cook faster.

by Anonymousreply 30May 8, 2020 3:29 AM

OP, 'm surprised you made it to whatever age you are.

by Anonymousreply 31May 8, 2020 3:37 AM

[quote] place in non preheated oven

Now THAT's what I'm looking for!

by Anonymousreply 32May 8, 2020 6:16 PM

Preheating is like prelubing: you’ll end up with a shitty mess if you don’t do it.

by Anonymousreply 33May 8, 2020 6:45 PM

Some dishes you can bake without preheating. I bake a particular pound cake recipe that calls for starting in a cold oven. You simply have to cook it longer. But some dishes would be ruined if you tried to start them in a cold oven.

by Anonymousreply 34May 8, 2020 6:53 PM

I always prelube. I use a time released lube, the sphincter absorbs the lube, then releases with friction.

by Anonymousreply 35May 8, 2020 8:13 PM

"I almost never preheat anymore. I just add a few minutes to the cooking time."

The stupid. It hurts.

by Anonymousreply 36May 8, 2020 8:15 PM

R15, it can be overheated, like my boyfriend on Saturday night! Ooo-la-la

by Anonymousreply 37May 8, 2020 8:18 PM

Here are the facts.

It's a matter of categories and ingredients. Preheating is important for many things. With some others it's not. In very rare cases a recipe will suggest popping something into a cold oven and letting it warm with the oven temperature. But the default for purposes of timing, which can be estimated only from a standard temperature, is to preheat. Of course, no one but the most thoughtful cooks have their oven temperatures calibrated, so the length of baking/roasting/whatever differs inevitably by cases, and the temperature of items heading into a preset (or just-lit/turned-on oven) makes a difference, too.

BUT in the case of the OP, who is heating frozen pizzas or other frozen crap, it doesn't matter whether the oven is preheated or not. To such typical Americans just now discovering that there is an appliance in their kitchenettes that gets hot, what does it matter to us, for that matter, what they do? It's not like the heat's or lack of heat's precise effect on a duck skin or how the butter in a pastry is going to melt differently is going to matter.

And since to such eaters the quality of the dish doesn't matter either, and the idea of "quality" is an abstract unreachable by their tongues or their minds, the heat of an oven at any portion of time in the process of "gettin' the shit goin'" means nothing. And don't confuse them ever by saying it's hot enough outside to fry an egg on the sidewalk, or the fool OP will crack it open and drop it at dawn because there ain't no need nohow to git that sidewalk preheated.

by Anonymousreply 38May 8, 2020 8:35 PM

A rising crust frozen pizza will not turn out well if the oven is not preheated. Side note: Wondering if there's a really good reason as to why some people just can't follow the fucking cooking instructions....

by Anonymousreply 39May 8, 2020 8:43 PM

Well they never give instructions on HOW to preheat the oven, we're just supposed to know this stuff?

by Anonymousreply 40May 8, 2020 8:46 PM

^^^ “Fold in the cheese.” What does that mean?!

by Anonymousreply 41May 8, 2020 8:56 PM

I've tried folding cheese and it just breaks.

by Anonymousreply 42May 8, 2020 9:05 PM

I wonder if there are any food safety issues with putting something in a non-preheated oven. I know that some slow-cookers have food safety issues because they take too long to reach the target temperature and the food can be held at an unsafe temperature for too long.

by Anonymousreply 43May 8, 2020 9:23 PM

[quote] A rising crust frozen pizza will not turn out well if the oven is not preheated.

It's a frozen pizza. It's always going to taste like crap.

by Anonymousreply 44May 8, 2020 11:14 PM

No. Frozen pizza is not ideal, but a Frescetta doctored up with a few more toppings and more cheese is surprisingly satisfying.

by Anonymousreply 45May 9, 2020 1:19 AM

During winter I bet OP just shuts his oven door right after turning it off.

by Anonymousreply 46May 9, 2020 1:23 AM

I've been buying the Mediterranean frozen Pizza at Whole Foods. It's good for frozen pizza.

by Anonymousreply 47May 9, 2020 1:56 PM

F40, you have to lean into the oven to see if it is lite. Farther... Farther ..

by Anonymousreply 48May 9, 2020 2:03 PM

preheating is to cooking as foreplay is to sex,......everything comes out better if the heat is on when it goes in

you must be boring in bed OP

by Anonymousreply 49May 9, 2020 2:09 PM

R40/OP - let's use a bag of Ora Ida french fries - On the back of the bag will be cooking instructions - the very first instruction for OVEN cooking should be "PREHEAT oven to 400 degrees F" - You would then walk to your oven, reach for the oven knob or buttons, set knob to 400 OR turn oven on and set to 400 via the buttons for the digital display - Your oven should give a loud BEEP at least once, but perhaps 2-3 times in quick succession to alert that it is now preheated to 400 degrees - should your oven NOT have this beeping alert feature, then on average it takes an oven to preheat to 350 degrees in about 10 minutes. 450 degrees takes about 15 minutes - adjust from there.

by Anonymousreply 50May 9, 2020 2:13 PM

R40 is NOT the OP.

by Anonymousreply 51May 9, 2020 2:28 PM

It’s a good idea to let what you are going to cook come up to room temperature first, if you have time. It will cook more evenly. Oh, and of course you should pre-heat philistine!!!

by Anonymousreply 52May 9, 2020 2:33 PM

The great thing about microwave cooking is there’s no need to preheat.

by Anonymousreply 53May 9, 2020 7:59 PM

[quote]It’s a good idea to let what you are going to cook come up to room temperature first, if you have time.

That really only applies to meat. You shouldn't do that with most frozen foods.

by Anonymousreply 54May 9, 2020 8:02 PM

R54 I don’t cook frozen food.

by Anonymousreply 55May 9, 2020 8:06 PM

My microwave doesn't have a tempreture gage, if a recipe calls for a 350 degree oven, I just have to guess.

by Anonymousreply 56May 9, 2020 8:17 PM
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