Well?
A cat, Tonkinoise is a cat
by Anonymous | reply 1 | May 5, 2020 9:12 PM |
a little North Vietnamese girl
by Anonymous | reply 3 | May 5, 2020 9:21 PM |
[quote]"La Petite Tonkinoise", first sung in 1906 and performed by [Josephine] Baker in 1930, is a piece of the silliest colonialist sentimentality that recounts the delight and pride of a young Indochinese girl whose French lover has elevated her to legitimate companionship.
by Anonymous | reply 4 | May 5, 2020 9:28 PM |
Why would Baker who lived in Paris to escape racism subscribe to colonialist claptrap.
by Anonymous | reply 5 | May 5, 2020 9:32 PM |
Loosely and broadly translated in French "tonkinoise" means something or person Asian related. Chinese, Vietnamese, etc....
by Anonymous | reply 6 | May 5, 2020 9:32 PM |
English translation:
The little Tonkin girl It's me who is his little, His Anana, his Anana her Annamite I am a vivid, I am charming Like a little singing bird. He calls me his littl' bourgeoise, Hi Tonkiki, his Tonkiki, his Tonkin girl. Others look at him with tender eyes, But that's me he loves better.
In the evening we talk about a million things Before going to bed. I learn geography of China, of Mandchouria, Borders, rivers, The Yellow river and the Blue river. Even Love is, that is a a curious thing, watered by the Middle Kingdom.
It's me who is his little, His Anana, his Anana her Annamite I am a vivid, I am charming Like a little singing bird. He calls me his littl' bourgeoise, Hi Tonkiki, his Tonkiki, his Tonkin girl. Others look at him with tender eyes, But that's me he loves better.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | May 5, 2020 9:34 PM |
R7 yes, that clears it up a bit.
Thanks to all - I thought I just didn't understand it because it was in French but clearly there was more subtext to the whole song and concept.
by Anonymous | reply 8 | May 5, 2020 9:42 PM |
Josephine Baker is fascinating.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | May 5, 2020 9:42 PM |
R8
More to the point Tonkin in North Vietnam was a French protectorate until Japan invaded during WWII. There are plenty of Vietnamese in France now and going back early 1900's who speak fluent French having arrived in that country upon emigrating from Vietnam.
In NYC have run into many "French" Vietnamese who either came from France or Vietnam .
by Anonymous | reply 10 | May 5, 2020 9:50 PM |
Then and now certain Frenchmen have a thing for Asians; Bernard Boursicot is a more famous recent example.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | May 5, 2020 9:52 PM |
Sounds like something that pops out of cockgobbler after a couple hours of fun. 🤜 🤜 🌺
by Anonymous | reply 12 | May 5, 2020 10:05 PM |
R12 I thought the only thing that pops out of him is raw anonymous loads.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | May 5, 2020 10:13 PM |
R5
In a word, money.
J. Baker like everyone else at that time turned out what would (hopefully) sell.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | May 5, 2020 10:13 PM |
Some British and French people definitely have a colonialist fetish about black men or women.
In different ways than Americans, but not without its own messy history..........
by Anonymous | reply 15 | May 5, 2020 10:16 PM |
Haven't you ever seen "South Pacific?"
by Anonymous | reply 16 | May 5, 2020 10:25 PM |
An Asian girl so small, she fits in a syringe 💉!
by Anonymous | reply 17 | May 5, 2020 10:33 PM |
R14 I guess I knew that it was money. A girl's gotta eat. But I wondered if she's known to have had views public or private on selling racist colonial nonsense. Or packaging her black exoticism for the French.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | May 6, 2020 12:56 AM |
That packing of "black exoticism" or eroticism if you will made JB famous and wealthy. Don't believe she had much if any qualms about doing so.
At the time to be sure there were plenty of high toned "new Negroes" who subscribed to Booker T. Washington sort of theories about uplifting themselves into the professional classes, others like JB had different plans.
Take away one or both and Josephine Baker would have just been any random AA female performer in USA or Europe, and she above anyone else knew it.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | May 6, 2020 1:33 AM |
Josephine's American-accented French makes her rendition sound all the more endearing.
The song became a standard in America after Anna Held wrote English lyrics to the melody and introduced it in New York in 1907 as, "It's Delightful to be Married."
by Anonymous | reply 20 | May 6, 2020 1:42 AM |
What was her signature song? You know - the tune always played when she was introduced. What?
by Anonymous | reply 21 | May 6, 2020 1:58 AM |
I think her signature was "J'ai deux amours" (I Have Two Loves), meaning the USA and Paris.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | May 6, 2020 2:04 AM |
Many French have a thing for way Americans speak their language, well up to a point anyway. They find it charming, amusing and yes rather endearing.
OTOH if they butcher things too badly often a Frenchman or Frenchwoman will simply roll their eyes and either respond in English or just pretend they don't understand a single word.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | May 6, 2020 2:05 AM |
Lazy twat at R20.
And, no, not really, R21, not completely. She used three, one of which is at the link, if R21 knows how to use a computer.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | May 6, 2020 2:06 AM |
R18
JB sang a host of songs that would make many African Americans today both performers or otherwise cringe. But mind you it is all in the delivery and or how things are done I suppose.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | May 6, 2020 2:06 AM |
Would say Josephine Baker's signature song would be J'ai Deux Amours....
by Anonymous | reply 26 | May 6, 2020 2:10 AM |
Yes, R22 and R26 - that's it! I could "hear" the music in my head but not the words. Thank you both. - R21
by Anonymous | reply 27 | May 6, 2020 2:14 AM |
Back story.....
Like many French themselves and people from around the world Paris has a magical attraction. The song "J'ai doux amours" is of course about having two loves; Paris and native country of performer (original number came from a 1930's musical where performer was speaking of two loves being Paris and North Africa, IIRC). But JB picked it up and made it her own
by Anonymous | reply 28 | May 6, 2020 2:14 AM |
OTOH you have singers like Harry Belafonte doing Jump In The Line (aka Shake Senora) that celebrate his Caribbean roots, and no one thinks twice. But that song is far less offensive then "Please Don't Touch my Tomatoes..." IMHO.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | May 6, 2020 2:18 AM |
What careers did her 12 children pursue?
by Anonymous | reply 30 | May 6, 2020 2:45 AM |
Perhaps most famous was Jean-Claude Baker who opened a restaurant here in NYC named after his mother; Chez Josephine.
Sadly M. Baker took his own life several years ago.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | May 6, 2020 3:15 AM |
Oh yeah baby! Let me eat that petite tonkinoise. I love when you make it squirt for me.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | May 6, 2020 3:24 AM |
[Quote] Sadly M. Baker took his own life several years ago.
This is sad. I met him a couple of times at Chez Josephine. Urbane and cultivated.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | May 6, 2020 7:53 AM |