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Horatio Alger was a Pedophile

The Michael Jackson of his time produced entertainment aimed at children and was constantly in the company of street boys, some of whom went to live with him.

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by Anonymousreply 76February 4, 2021 4:02 AM

Want that Horacio HORNblower?

by Anonymousreply 1April 29, 2020 11:42 PM

This is hardly breaking news, OP--scholars have written about this for several decades.

by Anonymousreply 2April 30, 2020 12:25 AM

^ That's why I'm comfortable starting a thread about it for the sake of pointless DL bitchery.

by Anonymousreply 3April 30, 2020 1:22 AM

He always wrote about boys.

Some of the titles are laughable given his predilections:

Tattered Tom

Cash Boy

Ben the Luggage Boy

Rough and Ready

Joel the Neighbor's son

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by Anonymousreply 4May 1, 2020 6:57 PM

R4, that’s nifty.

by Anonymousreply 5May 1, 2020 6:59 PM

Oh, thank god! I thought you meant Horatio Sanz.

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by Anonymousreply 6May 1, 2020 6:59 PM

Now do Lord Baden Powell!

by Anonymousreply 7May 1, 2020 7:00 PM

There's an award named after him:

Since 1947, the Horatio Alger Association of Distinguished Americans has bestowed an annual award on "outstanding individuals in our society who have succeeded in the face of adversity" and scholarships "to encourage young people to pursue their dreams with determination and perseverance".

by Anonymousreply 8May 2, 2020 8:37 PM

Kevin Spacey should win the Horatio Alger Award For Hitting On Young Boys

by Anonymousreply 9May 2, 2020 8:39 PM

I thought that was well known OP.

by Anonymousreply 10May 2, 2020 9:09 PM

He liked him some Ragged Dick

by Anonymousreply 11May 2, 2020 9:20 PM

He was a true hero!

by Anonymousreply 12May 2, 2020 10:15 PM

Just a lifelong bachelor who was too busy writing to go on dates and enjoyed helping young boys. Nothing to see here, folks!

by Anonymousreply 13May 2, 2020 10:20 PM

^ Exactly.

And if any boys slept with him, it was very charming.

by Anonymousreply 14May 3, 2020 12:29 AM

Why didn't Michael Jackson win the Horatio Alger Award? He was so devoted to the welfare of young boys.

by Anonymousreply 15May 3, 2020 1:14 AM

^ The award is for people from "humble" beginnings who grow up to be rich, not necessarily wealthy patrons of unfortunate youngsters, although it would make more sense given what is known about Alger.

by Anonymousreply 16May 3, 2020 2:37 PM

rrrr

by Anonymousreply 17May 3, 2020 5:53 PM

r2 already said that, r10.

by Anonymousreply 18May 3, 2020 11:14 PM

Lots of normal men enjoy living with young boys!

by Anonymousreply 19May 3, 2020 11:21 PM

R18 - R2 said "scholars."

I presumed it was WIDELY known.

by Anonymousreply 20May 4, 2020 1:05 AM

I was up for the role of Alger but it went to Lucy.

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by Anonymousreply 21May 4, 2020 1:16 AM

^ Just another image of saintly, childlike Michael helping out the young!

by Anonymousreply 22May 4, 2020 1:59 AM

Someone should do a Horatio Alger biopic. It would be interesting

by Anonymousreply 23May 4, 2020 2:55 AM

He's apparently the idol of the TikTok poster on here.

by Anonymousreply 24May 4, 2020 3:01 AM

Who the fuck is WHORE-ATIO?

by Anonymousreply 25May 4, 2020 3:03 AM

I'll play him in the biopic

by Anonymousreply 26May 4, 2020 5:33 PM

“The stereotype of his stories is that young boys rise up by their bootstraps through hard work and honesty but in every story, the handsome, young boy is discovered by a rich older man who takes him under his wing and through his patronage becomes successful."

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by Anonymousreply 27May 5, 2020 2:53 AM

What kind of sick freak would be interested in little boys?

by Anonymousreply 28May 5, 2020 2:57 AM

“The stereotype of his stories is that young boys rise up by their bootstraps through hard work and honesty but in every story, the handsome, young boy is discovered by a rich older man who takes him under his wing and through his patronage becomes successful."

So, yes, Kevin Spacey will definitely be playing him in the biopic!

by Anonymousreply 29May 5, 2020 3:53 AM

More from the link at r27:

According to “Brewster Revisited” by Bill and Mary Roach, church officials said Alger was accused of engaging in unnamed sex acts with 13-year-old John Clark and 15-year-old Thomas Crocker, which the church said were “too revolting to relate,” but which many scholars have since interpreted to likely mean he was accused of performing oral sex on the teens.

The church documents also suggested that there may have been other boys with whom Alger was involved, but these were the only cases that came before the church’s investigating committee, to which Alger did not confirm or deny the charges but only admitted he had acted “imprudent” -although the cases were never brought before the full parish committee for a hearing that would have included witness testimony.

by Anonymousreply 30May 5, 2020 2:20 PM

Biopic will be directed by Bryan Singer

by Anonymousreply 31May 5, 2020 10:21 PM

More titles:

Paul the Peddler; or the Fortunes of a Young Street Merchant

Julius; or, The Street Boy Out West

Bound to Rise

The Telegraph Boy

Ben's Nugget

by Anonymousreply 32May 9, 2020 1:25 AM

Luke Larkin’s Lick

by Anonymousreply 33May 9, 2020 1:42 AM

Well, what about John Henry Mackay?

by Anonymousreply 34May 9, 2020 1:45 AM

I don't know why his books seem to be popular on the exclusive private school curriculum set. I used to read the Yale newspaper editorials (not an alumni, just a wannabe) and for a while it seemed like every 10th student written editorial referenced Horatio Alger, especially when talking about America.

I never learned about this pedo in my school, and I am glad not to have. I wonder if the academic set still plays Michael Jackson music or encourages the reading of material written by a pedophile. Would they argue the ad hominem argument- that material is fine, no matter where it came from? Would they have him cancelled?

Anyway, they don't use Nazi research on humane grounds so I wouldn't want to use the works of a pedophile either.

by Anonymousreply 35May 9, 2020 1:52 AM

So was Harvey Milk, OP.

by Anonymousreply 36May 9, 2020 1:55 AM

R35, we use science and inventions by the Nazis. You truly are an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 37May 9, 2020 1:56 AM

Ronald Dahl hated Jews. We must no longer watch or read Willy Wanka!

by Anonymousreply 38May 9, 2020 1:58 AM

My German friend's mother is a scientist in Germany and said they still reference the research notes of experiments that Nazi's did on humans during the holocaust.

Plus, American med students textbooks reference these experiments and notes, but the med students and universities don't realize that they are reading Nazi research!

by Anonymousreply 39May 9, 2020 2:06 AM

Paul the Ass Peddler

by Anonymousreply 40May 9, 2020 2:14 AM

It was a differnt time.

by Anonymousreply 41May 9, 2020 2:15 AM

I wonder if he has any secret, unpublished works, like E.M. Forster...

by Anonymousreply 42May 9, 2020 2:16 AM

Kinsey used children for his sex research as well as pedophiles. Does that mean we ditch all the research the Kinsey Institute did? I swear, some people are just Pollyannas and need to grow the fuck up. Even some of our most used fonts were invented by pedophiles.

You have to separate art from the person. Life isn't pretty. Human beings are horrible creatures.

by Anonymousreply 43May 9, 2020 3:01 AM

R37 My psychology professor told us that some is not used for research purposes.

I hope you get to feeling better.

by Anonymousreply 44May 9, 2020 3:08 AM

R43 That's why science studies aren't 💯. It's a well know research phenomenon.

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by Anonymousreply 45May 9, 2020 3:11 AM

Did r45 really just post a YouTube video?

by Anonymousreply 46May 9, 2020 6:20 AM

Yeah, he's Derrick from Veritasium and I have a crush on him so suck my balls real hard R46.

by Anonymousreply 47May 9, 2020 6:55 AM

13-15 year old young men have gone through puberty and are fully grow down there . So he was not a pedophile some of you have a lot to learn.

by Anonymousreply 48May 9, 2020 7:01 AM

I listened to Thrilla the other day. It's so nostalgic. His music was heavily produced by Quincy Jones. I will listen to celebrate Q's work. Michael was a loveable little child himself but grew up to be crazy.

by Anonymousreply 49May 9, 2020 7:09 AM

Go south, young man! Go south!

by Anonymousreply 50May 9, 2020 8:39 AM

But was he a pedo, pedo? It was a different time, you know.

by Anonymousreply 51May 9, 2020 12:58 PM

I loved reading his books while lunching on a footlong.

by Anonymousreply 52May 9, 2020 12:59 PM

I think I'd be embarrassed to receive a Horatio Alger award, and be associated with child sex abuse victims.

by Anonymousreply 53May 9, 2020 9:51 PM

I don't think those teenagers were victims, at least not how we currently define the term...

by Anonymousreply 54May 9, 2020 10:01 PM

r54, based on what? Your fantasies?

by Anonymousreply 55May 9, 2020 10:04 PM

Well, at a time when the marriage age was 14, or even younger in some places, I don't think today's rigid standards/thinking/laws necessarily apply to the norms of the 19th century

by Anonymousreply 56May 9, 2020 10:13 PM

Per wikipedia (discussing Great Britain)

At common law and by canon law a person who had attained the legal age of puberty could contract a valid marriage. A marriage contracted by persons either of whom was under the legal age of puberty was voidable.

The legal age of puberty was fourteen years for males and twelve years for females.

by Anonymousreply 57May 9, 2020 10:16 PM

"Telegram Boy - He Delivers" is a timeless classic.

by Anonymousreply 58May 9, 2020 10:21 PM

Pedophilia apologist at r57 citing marriage laws from over 100 years ago. If you want to use that logic, let's also remember anti-homo and sodomy laws, which surely would've applied to Alger.

by Anonymousreply 59May 10, 2020 3:35 PM

He was kinda hot. I'd gladly let him touch me inappropriately!

by Anonymousreply 60May 10, 2020 4:05 PM

[quote] Pedophilia apologist at [R57] citing marriage laws from over 100 years ago. If you want to use that logic, let's also remember anti-homo and sodomy laws, which surely would've applied to Alger.

You are a retard.

by Anonymousreply 61May 10, 2020 4:30 PM

R59 is now calling all marriages centuries ago pedophilia... except for fags who he believes should have been castrated.

by Anonymousreply 62May 10, 2020 4:31 PM

The world just isn't sophisticated enough to accept the beauty of man-boy love. Laws against pedophilia and child marriage are ignorant. In Neverland we are safe from the evil world that wants to ban our LOVE.

(until you become an adult and cease to arouse me anymore)

by Anonymousreply 63May 11, 2020 4:08 PM

Wasn't this a time where children were sold on the street by their parents?

by Anonymousreply 64May 11, 2020 4:43 PM

"a time when..."

No it wasn't, unless someone was poor and desperate. Otherwise it was not considered a socially or culturally, let alone moral, practice 200 years ago nor thousands of years ago.

Still today in 2020, desperately poor people sell their children to pedos. One place this happens a lot is Cambodia, not the world's richest country. Guess who the buyers are: pedos from Europe and the U.S.

by Anonymousreply 65May 11, 2020 5:42 PM

People didn’t even love long a century ago.

by Anonymousreply 66May 11, 2020 7:37 PM

People didn’t even live long a century ago.

by Anonymousreply 67May 11, 2020 7:38 PM

Ggyu

by Anonymousreply 68May 11, 2020 11:40 PM

Something about head lice and and undropped balls helped stimulate Horatio's creativity.

by Anonymousreply 69May 12, 2020 12:26 AM

This thread is useless without pictures.

by Anonymousreply 70May 13, 2020 3:41 PM

OP (poo shoes) spends her days "researching" pedophilia.

by Anonymousreply 71May 13, 2020 4:27 PM

This thread is making me horny.

by Anonymousreply 72May 13, 2020 6:13 PM

R16, Michael Jackson was from "humble" beginnings who grow up to be rich.

by Anonymousreply 73May 13, 2020 6:27 PM

This doesn't read like a "poo shoes" thread

by Anonymousreply 74May 13, 2020 6:46 PM

[quote] “The stereotype of his stories is that young boys rise up by their bootstraps through hard work and honesty but in every story, the handsome, young boy is discovered by a rich older man who takes him under his wing and through his patronage becomes successful."

Like how Brock Pierce was brought up by the pedos associated with DEN. He should get a Horacio Alger award.

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by Anonymousreply 75February 4, 2021 1:15 AM

^ He looks like a junky in that pic.

by Anonymousreply 76February 4, 2021 4:02 AM
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