Plot holes You Could Drive a Truck Through

Alam Wernick’s hole.

Any horror movie where the eventual victims had a natural and easy exit but failed to take it.

"Dead Poets Society" — the kids' big secret was that they would sneak off in the woods to discuss BOOKS?

That's an extra-credit assignment, not a secret.

Dorothy's forced marriage to Stan. The son being too young, the diamond ring Stan gave her and so on and so on.

My personal favorite: If Babs Johnson was indeed 'the filthiest person alive,' why was she so upset to get a turd in the mail?

Silence of the Lambs, when it’s discovered that Jame Gumb cuts tailoring darts into his victims’ backs. Human skin is incredibly pliable and can be shrunk and molded for a custom fit. The darts were a stretch.

Terminator 2: why did the new Terminator travel back in time to a point where John Connor is 1) already born, 2) older than an infant/toddler, and 3) he and his mother know what's coming? Would have made far more sense to travel back again to before his birth when Sarah Connor was even younger and more vulnerable. It's such a stupid story flaw that I can't even enjoy the movie for the action.

R6, the book goes into it, even explaining some failed attempts with other victims. The movie didn't bother to explain how he was able to do it.

"Human skin is incredibly pliable and can be shrunk and molded for a custom fit. "

DO tell us how you know this.

You had the power to go home all along.

You wouldn't have believed me

Agree about the Terminator one

They didn’t need Indiana Jones to find The Lost Ark.

In Sleeping with the Enemy, I never understood why she put her wedding ring in the toilet while making her escape. Isn't that how he figured out she was still alive?

Why not take it off and toss it in the ocean when she faked her drowning?

The entire plot of Murder on the Orient Express, but I find it entertaining regardless

Yeah, well, R14, I guess there was so little demand for first-class train tickets in the 1930s that filling the right train car was easy.

But "Death on the Nile" is worse, if someone had stepped out of their cabin at the wrong moment, or a crew member had had a smoke on the deck, or maybe even if someone had decided that they didn't like that red nail polish after all and thrown it away, it'd all have collapsed.

All the movies that cast Jamie Lee Curtis as a woman.

The Book of Eli - the movie is full of logical inconsistencies. Where to begin? One that drove me crazy is that the bad guy's henchman drove around hunting Eli. How were those vehicles powered? It's been 30 years since the war. The henchmen are illiterate, and that is a key point since they're such a bunch of knuckleheads they can't discern if a book is a Bible. Who has been maintaining the vehicles? Not these idiots.

I think the thing in T2 was explained by Ahnold at some point. Something about how time travel is not an exact science. I mean, Skynet DID send another terminator to take out Sarah Connor. If I was going to complain about that movie, it would be anti-climatic ending.

Everything in The Matrix -- everything.

Even in the first one, which was at least superficially coherent if you didn't stop to think about anything. The less said about the sequels, the better.

R17 You would be surprised at how many mouth breathers are automotive savants.

Sorry, but I am going to add theater to the mix. In the play Burn This, the dead roommate's possessions are described as two pairs of jeans and a paperback book. First, why would the family want them? Second, why not just stuff them in a FedEx box and send them to the family? There is no reason for Pale to come to the apartment.

Any zombie TV show where they are driving around after 6 months. Gas only last about 3 months and diesel can last 6-12 months before going bad. Gas can last longer if you use a stabilizer.

R8, the explanation in the book still doesn't make sense. Leather shrinks considerably as it cures. He could never cut the *gussets* (the are not fucking darts!) to shape from the body. Second, why would he leave perfectly good "material" behind. Nobody who sews would do such a thing.

R6, thank you. That is a plot point that has driven me nuts for years... almost as much as people CONFUSING DARTS WITH FUCK'N GUSSETS! Darts are removing a triangular piece of fabric to shape the fabric in, such as under the bust. Gussets are a piece of fabric added.

Every single thing about "A Quiet Place".

[quote]"Human skin is incredibly pliable and can be shrunk and molded for a custom fit. "

[quote]DO tell us how you know this.

Frankly, I'm not surprised a DLer knows this.

Agreed, r15, that plot was insane (though i love the book). No one in their right mind would risk it. That said, in all fairness to Christie, someone did see it. And in the other murder as well.

R23 MARY!!!

R18 that explanation doesn't work. Clearly it was an exact enough science that they could target Sarah before John was born. So the second time they should have gone back further in time, not more recent.

It also would have better resolved the problem of having Arnold in the second film. Had they gone further back, they could use the same Terminator. But future John taking the same Terminator and repurposing it was the second stupidest thing about the movie.

Blair Witch (2016)

All of that "you have to stand in the corner because you'll drop dead if you look at the witch" business was silly. In the first one, it was Rustin Parr, not the witch, who brought kids in the basement in pairs and made one stand in the corner while he killed the other. This was because he didn't like the sensation of being watched while he did these awful things. And unless she really was batshit crazy, Mary Brown reported seeing the witch and she still lived to tell about it.

They just changed everything up for this sequel and it didn't make sense to me.

R19 beat me to it.

R29 I think they made a mistake setting the Blair Witch in 2016. All of the drone footage was boring.

Changing the plot doesn't make it a plot hole, R29.

R32 Well, I think it does, because it is a sequel to what came before. If it was a remake it would be different

R23, per the book the need for the "darts" (gussets) was because he wanted as few seams as possible, but none of the women were big enough to accommodate his broad shoulders. So he needed "darts" placed in strategic locations to make the garment fit without it stretching and puckering.

The book suggests but doesn't say the diamond shapes he cuts off the victim Clarice sees were just extra. He was looking for a victim with a big chest but she turned out to be flat so he shot her in the chest because she was ultimately useless to him. He has a workroom full of scraps and already has gone through lots of trial and error with tanning skin. He practically drools over his next victim, Catherine Martin, because she has exactly the breasts/body he wants.

“Vertigo” has so many plot holes, it makes Swiss cheese look solid.

And then, Hitch gives it all away about two thirds In to it.

But, what the hey, just sit back and wallow in the mood!

To me, the biggest plot hole in Terminator 2 is that Part 1 established that time is set, you can't change it, everything that happens was meant to happen.

R15 The biggest plot hole in both films is why would you commit a murder with a master detective on board

Not so much a plot hole but a scene that undermines the whole point of the film: The King's Speech. At his first meeting with the therapist Colin Firth is given a Shakespeare soliloquy to read while wearing headphones listening to a Beethoven symphony played very loudly. Unable to hear himself, the King recites the speech perfectly. Makes sense, doesn't it? Fast forward to the climatic ending and the King is making a crucial World War II announcement over radio which he is being coached through by the dedicated therapist. Oh the drama! But since the broadcast is from a studio away from public view why not repeat the headphone remedy that the therapist showed at the start of the film?

If Buzz Lightyear doesn't know he's a toy, why does he freeze like the other toys when humans are around? And how does he not realize he freezes just like the other toys?

Whoa, r39. Deep.

That anyone would pay more than $9.95 to sleep with Barbra Streisand in "Nuts"

If you wanted to commit a murder in Cabot Cove, why not wait until Jessica Fletcher is on one of her many trips.

Rosebud ("Citizen Kane"), of course. The entire movie revolves around a reporter trying to discover the meaning of Kane's last word. Kane was, however, alone when uttered this word so who heard him say it? How did the reporter know his last word?

R12, the Nazis were completely off track to finding it, so Indy could have turned around and gone home and it would have been safe. Instead he led them to it. Or, since the Ark destroys mortals who look when they open the lid (which Indy knew because he knew to tell Marion to look away), he could have worked with them to let it kill off as many Nazis as possible.

Amy Farrah Fowler was right, R44.

R13 Yes. Or she would have taken it with her and pawned it.

I quite enjoy Ozark on Netflix, but the writers often contort themselves in order to deliver BIG, AWESOME PLOT TWISTS.

To wit, the whole season one plot where the Snells pretty much force Mason to preach on the boat so they can move their opiates (hidden in the hymnals they pass out). This is a pretty silly scheme to begin with; the idea that the police boats wouldn’t interfere with a church service. But why did they have to have Mason do it? They could have hired ANY preacher willing to play ball. Or even someone just pretending to be a preacher and reading from a script.

R45, not quite. Remember, Indy has the medallion when he thinks Marion was killed. Had he just left at that point, the Nazis would not have found the ark. Instead, he leads them to it. Now, if he had never gone to see Marion at all, likely the outcome would have been the same except they would have really killed her.

^ Forgot to add, and the US Army wouldn't have gotten a hold of the Ark and put it in storage.

"Knives Out" hinges on the ludicrous notion that you can intravenously inject an overdose of morphine and sill have time to go downstairs, drive away, sneak back into the house by climbing up a wall, before the OD will happen.

Seinfeld: An endless supply of stunningly beautiful women being rejected by hideously ugly guys.

R38, the therapy wasn't just for that speech; remember his earlier humiliations. The king needed to be able to speak in public, period. The speech at the end was just the test of his success. Even if he had used the crutch of drowning himself out to give a flawless speech in that instance, he would have many occasions in future when that wasn't possible.

Curse of Chucky/Cult of Chucky

Seed of Chucky established that Tiffany did a spell to inhabit the body of Jennifer Tilly, yet there is no mention of this in either of the two films. She is only just human Tiffany again. So is Jennifer Tilly considered a missing person in this universe? Does Tiffany double as a movie star/professional poker player as well as killing on the side like some kind of fucked up Hannah Montana?

I hope the TV show they're making will explain this a little bit better.

R52, true but it still stands to reason for that one particular crucial speech, they could have used the headphones trick to ensure the King would have no problem. Especially since they did all kinds of other tricks to avoid problems, like changing the speech and banishing everyone but Lionel from the room. The movie could have used a scene where the King refused the headphones, insisting he wanted to hear himself giving the most important speech of his life, or something like that.

Nuts: A 40-something Barbra Streisand would be a successful call girl.

Yentl: A 40-something Barbra Streisand would trick everyone into thinking she was a teenage boy.

The whole adoption subplot in Paranormal Activity 4. How and why did demon possessed Katie put her abducted nephew up for adoption and then come back for him years later? What was the purpose of any of that? If Wyatt was supposed to be Hunter, then who the hell was Robbie? It makes no sense at all.

The Wizard of Oz. Everyone knows you can't ride a bike in a dress.

The entire plot of The Village.

Any Ryan Murphy show by episode 4.

R59 more like season 2.

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How can Malcolm McDowell, Jane Carr, and Judy Geeson's characters see everything going on? They didn't have any cameras wherever they took the characters, yet somehow they knew everything that happened and discussed each one's odds of survival as though they were actually watching.

Goldfinger

I suppose we can accept that Goldfinger constructed an entire building to create2 an elaborate audio-visual sales pitch for his plot to blow up an atomic bomb in Fort Knox to show to all the top gangsters in the country because he wanted to impress them moments before he killed them. But why kill them? All the remaining gangsters know where he lives.

And even if you can think of a reason why taking on rubbing out the entire leadership of the mafia nationwide hours before committing the moon landing of crime is a good idea, why crush Mr. Solo inside his car with a million dollars of gold in the trunk. Kill him on the driveway. Take the gold out of the trunk before crushing the car.

All of the scenes with the gangsters work solely to entertain the audience.

Texas Chainsaw 3D

The original takes place in 1973. This one takes place in modern day as characters use iPhones in the movie, yet Heather (who was supposedly taken from the scene of the crime in the original when she was a baby) doesn't appear to be 40 unless she aged EXTREMELY well and for some reason hangs out with people half her age.

Most of the Bond films have plot holes that you could drive a truck through

Here's a plot hole from real life, and it touches on R23 and leather gloves and curing. OJ and "if it doesn't fit, you must acquit" defense. Leather gloves soaked in blood and left to dry for however many months *of course* wouldn't fit. I can't believe that no one realized that. Maybe in Los Angeles they don't wear gloves (?) but anyone whose worn leather gloves during the winter (say, maybe, when you were playing for the Buffalo Bills. . .) would know what happens to wet leather gloves.

A foreign faction wrote the JonBenet ransom note.

Tori Spelling playing an object of desire

The blobfish did it. Ridiculous. They don’t have legs or hands, but somehow they sneak right up on you and

Buffy the Vampire Slayer - The stupid Dawn little sister storyline in Season 2. Why?! Loved the show, but never understood Dawn. Also, Buffy returning from the dead in Season 6 and 7.

Supernatural - Everyone dies on that show and come back to life. Death has no impact whatsoever.

R69 Dawn and Buffy's resurrection weren't plot holes. They were stories you disagreed with.

There was no sister in Season 1. Buffy and her mom. Then Season 2 onward, this special sister materialized out of nowhere and mom pretty much disappeared. Plot hole.

Why leave out the Supernatural gripe, R70? R69 obviously has no idea what a plot hole is.

Extending the Agatha Christie discussion: in Evil Under the Sun, much like Death on the Nile, the murderers' scheme depends on everything occurring like clockwork with every other person not savvy to the scheme behaving precisely in a particular fashion.

Just as an example: prior to murder plot going into motion, a person's wristwatch is forwarded by 20 minutes to supply an alibi; what if the wristwatch's owner discovered that it was the wrong time and changed it back?

No R72, we just disagree and that's fine.

R72 I never watched Supernatural.

R71 Dawn appeared in Season 5 and it was EXPLAINED

And the mom didnt disappear. She died in one of the show’s acclaimed episodes.

No, R74, you don't know what a plot hole is. There is no disagreement-but keep believing your alternative facts.

OK - Thanks, will do😘

The residents of Gilligan's Island had too many clothes. Why did they have any suitcases at all?

R79 who DOESN’T take their entire wardrobe on a 3 hour cruise? REALLY!

"In Sleeping with the Enemy, I never understood why she put her wedding ring in the toilet while making her escape. Isn't that how he figured out she was still alive?"

In the novel "Sleeping With The Enemy" the psycho husband finds out she's still alive when a woman approaches him to offer her condolences. The woman was at the YWCA where Sarah took swimming classes and comments on how at first she was terrified of the water but after a while she became a wonderful swimmer. So...the bitch knew how to swim! When he's informed of that he knows that she didn't drown and surmises she probably left him to run off with another man. So he sets out to find her and get revenge. The book was an interesting read, if preposterous. Poor Sarah runs off to Iowa with not very much money and only the possessions she can fit in a plastic garbage bag; using a fake name and not using a SS number (her crazy husband would easily find her if she used one) she easily finds a job and a place to live and as it so happens a nice, well off, attentive, single college professor lives right next door to her. The writing is good but the story is ridiculjous.

R81, that's in the movie as well. I can't remember if the woman approaches him before or after he finds the wedding ring in the toilet, but he pieces it all together after discovering several clues. It was a pretty dumb story, and frankly pretty gross to depict a woman escaping abuse as a horror/thriller.

My brother pointed out a big one in "Gone Girl", which I love anyway. There were probably dozens of witnesses that Neil Patrick Harris was not anywhere near Amy the day she disappeared. He was far from a recluse and ran a successful company so tons of alibis and easy to find.

Among many other plot holes apparently but I can't name any except I thought the jig was up when Ben and his sister found the "up the river" Punch and Judy doll in the storage shed. Did they not show it to the cop?

People who know how to swim drown all the time, R81.

Sometimes even by accident.

"[R15] The biggest plot hole in both films is why would you commit a murder with a master detective on board "

R37, that was actually one of the things I liked about th 1974 version of "MotOE".

SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS!!! Okay, at the beginning, when they're all boarding the train, there's an odd moment when Mrs. Hubbard is boarding and sees Poirot, and she gives him an odd cold look. Which passes without notice the first time you see the film, but when you see it again, you realize that she's seen Poirot, realized she has a huge complication, and isn't afraid. And if you see the film again and again, as I have, you see the whole progression of events on the train as a battle of wits between the two of them. Which he concedes at the end, leaving her triumphant.

Brannaugh chucked all that for the remake, and the film is poorer for it. He couldn't stand playing a character who didn't win all around, the egomaniac.

"The Wizard of Oz. Everyone knows you can't ride a bike in a dress. "

I've seen it done in real life, R57. I have no idea how it works, but apparently there's a way.

Sleeping with the Enemy was so full of nonsense, a friend and I laughed throughout the entire movie.

Remember when she was disguised as a man but her nails were still painted?

"The residents of Gilligan's Island had too many clothes. Why did they have any suitcases at all? "

I think Ginger had talked the Howells into the low-rent boat trip because she was planning to push Mrs. Howell over the side, and become the next Mrs. Thurston Howell. The suitcase with the glam wardrobe was in case they had to run from the law.

Well, why else would two old-money oldsters and a movie actress with a suitcase full of clothes be on a bargain-basement boat tour?

R55, Nuts would have been a camp howler if it had been a musical. Streisand as a hooker sings her internal monologues just like in Yentl! Avigdor, wait!

R63 I thought the same thing when I watched that movie. I thought they should have set the move in the 90s.

"People who know how to swim drown all the time."

Well, in the novel that's how Martin realizes Sarah is alive; after being told she was a good swimmer. She always told him she was terrified of the water, and she was, until she hatched her plan to escape by overcoming her fear. Seems in her youth her brother and her were out swimming and he drowned, causing her terror of the water. By the way, the bit about him finding the ring wasn't in the novel.

And yes, the plot about her disguising herself as a man to visit her mother in the nursing home (she's still playing dead) was in the book was really dumb. Someone said her disguise in the movie looked like something you'd see on "I Love Lucy."

R89 I can't remember who said it but it was suggested that The Howells were in Hawaii at one of their many mansions (remember the suitcase with keys to "a house in every state" episode?), Ginger was there shooting a film (which took several months), The Professor was teaching during this time (hence all of his books) & Mary Ann was there visiting someone she knew earlier in her life. The plane/s that were supposed to take them back to the mainland were delayed (due to the storm that knocked them off course on the U.S. Minnow) & were looking for alternate ways to get back. The Skipper & Gilligan were desperate for tourists for their 3 hour cruise & told them all that they could keep their belongings in the (cargo) hold of the Minnow until their new planes arrived (which would've happened after the 3 hour tour) so they all had plenty of time to kill. The huge storm knocked the Minnow off course where they crashed onto "Gilligan's Island".

A common mistake some viewers make is that they took all of their belongings for the sole purpose of the 3 hour tour. The ongoing problem the show has is that none of the the later episodes refer to what any of the four tourists were doing in Hawaii to begin with so it was just speculation from the TPTB in later interviews as to why they had some much stuff with them. Also 3 of the 7 castaways wear the same clothes except for a few exceptions (Gilligan wears cut-off pants in the one where Mary Ann thinks she is Ginger but we don't see them ever again). This implies that he had more than one pair of pants on the island but they all looked exactly the same.

It's also not that hard to believe that the richest ones among them (Ginger & the Howells) would overpack for their stay in Hawaii. Ginger as a "famous Hollywood movie star" would have to have multiple outfits to wear in public during her stay in Hawaii. The Howells wear their "safari outfits" in multiple episodes (Mr. Howell wears his dinner jacket outfit in several). Ginger wears the dress on the right in R79's pic more often than any of her other outfits on the show (she wears a hula outfit in more than one episode as well). They also discovered clothes in the trunk in the "Castaways make a rescue film" episode & it's possible some of the people who visited the island (only to make a quick getaway) left behind some clothes/materials for other outfits.

If there is a storm that delays all their flights, why would they board a dinky boat, and with all their luggage. Weak.

R83 That plot hole also drove me nuts in the book.

R83 That plot hole also drove me nuts in the book.

R83 That plot hole also drove me nuts in the book.

It’s Gilligan’s Island. You’re overthinking it.

[R87] Well for all that, I saw Margaret Hamilton as Miss Gulch do it in the film and quite ably. Assuming it wasn't some CGI special effect, I expect it was something ladies of the period knew how to do.

I saw Sleeping With the Enemy at a screening series NYU used to do where alumni filmmakers would come back and show their films to students right before they opened. 95% of the time, the filmmaker(s) would be there to do a Q&A afterwards. It was usually just open to Tisch film school students and the room it was held in accommodated maybe 100 so it was a very intimate experience. I used to go to as many as I was able to get into.

Joseph Ruben came w/ Sleeping and the audience laughed so much during the movie that he had a real attitude during the Q&A. And it just went south from there.

R94 Did you stop to think that maybe the storm wasn't near the Hawaiian islands when it delayed the plane/s ? It might have made the plane/s turn back around to their point of origin (not at their Hawaiian destination). The Skipper could have credibly thought that he could get the passengers safely back before the storm hit the Hawaiian islands. I think one of the GI reunion movies implied that the Skipper & Gilligan were desperate for income from their 3 hour tours (probably why they didn't play it safe that day).

Since Gilligan was the first mate on the Minnow (which had no other crew members), he would've been responsible for the passengers as well as their belongings. Do you know how long it would've taken him to put all of that stuff in the cargo hold by himself? Probably over an hour (at least for all of the five guests luggage).

Ginger & The Howells all seemed to be part of the stereotypical rich who have to be waited on hand & foot by someone so he might've had to get them some food/drinks before they left the dock (adding more time before they left for that 3 hour tour). Bottom line is it wasn't just a 3 hour tour fans keep debating before the storm hit the ship. Lots of stuff had to have happened that wasn't shown (except for the parts in the opening theme song). The closest the show ever got to discussing what went on before the huge storm is the episode where they hear on the radio that the Skipper is blamed by the Maritime Board for the castaways disappearance.

Is this a plot hole? Opinions, please ...

One-third of the way through "All About Eve," one of the main characters just vanishes: Birdie, played by Thelma Ritter.

She was also the first one to tumble to Eve's true evil nature, so it would have been natural for Margo Channing to go to her when Margo realizes.

There's no mention of Birdie being fired or quitting. She just disappears and no one ever mentions her again.

KNIVES OUT - Pretty much everything having to do with the character of Fran.

As the person who found Harlan's body, she would've been one of the first people questioned by the police and Benoit Blanc. Instead she is apparently ignored and only becomes important later on.

Even worse: Ransom meets her (per the blackmail note) at the deserted laundromat at 8:00 AM. Although he injects her with a lethal dose of morphine, she manages to stay alive until 10:00 AM -- just long enough for Marta, with perfect timing, to find her. Per the movie's own rules, morphine kills within 10 minutes (hence, the whole deal with Harlan.) Yet, somehow, Fran survives for over 2 hours -- because that is what the plot requires at that point.

That reasonably hot women with good lives in their 40s would ever have sex with Larry David, aged 72, on a first date, or even at all. Even 10 years ago, at age 62.

That George Costanza's wealthy, attractive fiancée Susan would be desperate enough to agree to marry him.

That any of the Ewings would be able to live in the same house as JR.

That Dorothy would go back to Kansas when nothing had changed that made her leave. I've been told that Elvira Gulch was probably killed by the tornado, but there's nothing to support that. If I were a young person who had good reason to believe a vicious adult was going to have my pet killed, I'd leave home too.

The Godfather

So you can put a huge decapitated horse head (which would probably take more than 1 person) under the sheets of the bed but the guy doesn't wake up.

How many cannolis did that guido have?

R105, that is apparently drawn from a true incident; so, I suspect that isn't a plot hole so much as truth is stranger than fiction.

[quote] That any of the Ewings would be able to live in the same house as JR.

Or that they would need to.

They couldn’t afford places of their own?

R104 I had zero interest in Curb Your Enthusiasm because Larry David is so fucking ugly and unappealing. He is as gross as Woody Allen.

[quote]Poor Sarah runs off to Iowa with not very much money and only the possessions she can fit in a plastic garbage bag; using a fake name and not using a SS number (her crazy husband would easily find her if she used one) she easily finds a job and a place to live and as it so happens a nice, well off, attentive, single college professor lives right next door to her. The writing is good but the story is ridiculjous.

Nicholas Sparks pretty much ripped off Sleeping with the Enemy for Safe Haven. The main character in Safe Haven flees to a town, starts working as waitress, and is able to rent a cabin in the woods right away.

KNIVES OUT - the idea that it would be futile to contest the will. I can't believe the family couldn't have made a good case for undue influence in civil court. Different states have different laws, but an 85 year old man who was always close to his family suddenly completely disinheriting them for a caretaker doesn't pass the smell test. And that's not even considering the shenanigans with the medicine.

At the very least, they would have gotten lawyers and worked out some kind of deal.

That one movie where someone paid to have sex with Julia Roberts!

R62- I am so NOT an action film fan that I re-read your post about 10 times going THAT never HAPPENED!!! That never happened? Its one of my favorite films and this is bullshit. I then realized I was thinking of Bowfinger starring Steve Martin!

Tell me what you think of this? This is straight from Jamie Lee Curtis. She thought it was absurd and I always found it extremely effective!

In Halloween 2, when Laurie hides in a car in the hospital parking lot, Loomis arrives with a cop I think, Jamie crawls out of the car (she is battered and in a hospital nightgown)

She claws her way on the asphalt trying to scream to them for help, but she cannot get the scream out!!!!

The cop and Loomis just go inside, the doors close, and Laurie musters a scream just when it is too late.

I just saw an interview with her and she thought this was ludicrous.

I used to have nightmares all the time where I was running for help and could not scream.

So I found this scene to make complete sense (she had been through a horror) and extremely chilling.

To each their own.

It was a very big bed.

Larry David is rich and famous and LA is full of whores.

R114?

I had no problem buying the delayed scream of Laurie's in Halloween II. She was both in shock and had been sedated, so it made sense that it took her a minute to get her voice up to strength. If the director couldn't figure that out to explain it to her (or if she didn't have the wherewithal to ask) then that's on them, but the screenwriter got it right.

Godfather, r116

Oh, thanks, r118.

Now I get it.

You probably should’ve referred to an earlier post or something.

The end of Ready Player One, when all the cops show up. Where were they when the bombing, daylight shoot-outs and kidnappings were happening? Why was Morrow informed of the arrest so he could be there to congratulate Wade?

Also indentured servitude is illegal in America, there's no way IOI would have been allowed to operate.

R73 To me the biggest plot hole in "Evil Under the Sun" is that their whole plot depends on having a witness in the boat with Patrick. But in the movie, Mrs Gardner just happens by and invites herself along.

When Oprah and Gayle went camping and didn’t have sex!

Lord of the Rings - why didn't Gandalf just send Frodo to Mount Doom on the back of an eagle.

Titanic - there was plenty of room on that door for both Kate and Leo to float until they were rescued.

Karate Kid - He kicked sexy William Zabka in the face, which was supposed to be illegal and instant DQ, to win the tournament.

Armageddon - why did they train miners to fly a ship. wouldn't it be easier to train college education and cream of the crop astronauts to use drilling equipment?

R79 points out one of tv's most eternally perplexing questions. Why did a group of people on a 3 hour tour have luggage and why would millionaire and a movie star be slumming it on that dinky ass little boat? The Howell's would most certainly be on a yacht.

R123 It's been a long time since I've watched Armageddon. But, didn't two astronauts fly the ship for the miners?

The Good Liar had a few really big holes

R125 isn't it assumed every Michael Bay film defines this thread?

R121 I assume the killer would have got a witness, any one. I would have gone with that person myself, wink wink.

In MOTOE, I think it was assumed that Poirot had left the train or was due to disembark the next morning. As they weren't anticipating a snowdrift they could have assumed Poirot would be gone before the body was "discovered".

I agree the murder plot in Death On The Nile would have fallen apart had any one person been on deck, and the killer could not prevent this. It would have been much easier if she had been crushed by that falling boulder!

That Matt Damon and his musician boyfriend had Spandau Ballet hairdos in 1930's Italy.

[quote]Armageddon - why did they train miners to fly a ship. wouldn't it be easier to train college education and cream of the crop astronauts to use drilling equipment?

Bruce Willis was an oilwell driller and he and his team already knew how to drill holes. They only needed to be trained how to work in low- and zero-gravity. A new crew would have to be trained in both drilling holes and working in space. There was a time limit, too.

Near the end of Citizen Kane, when Raymond the butler is speaking to the reporter, he recounts Kane's last actions and the famous last word as if he was in the room when it happened. The room was very dark, so maybe he was sitting in a chair off to the side. Perhaps the nurse just ran to the bathroom for a minute. Someone as rich as Kane would surely have someone attending him on his deathbed 24/7. That's how I imagine we know what Kane's final word was. Raymond did seem a bit deceitful, though, so maybe he just made the whole thing up for a little extra cash. He was about to be out of a job, after all.

[quote]Bruce Willis was an oilwell driller and he and his team already knew how to drill holes.

Which was more believable than the dumb accent he put on which went from Jersey to Texan throughout the movie.

R124 Not if they all had some time to kill & no yacht to waste 3+ hours on.

R63 this bugged me a lot, too. I thought the movie itself was one of the better sequels to Texas Chainsaw, but why couldn't they have addressed the lead's age? It made absolutely no sense. Hell, it might have even better interesting to have a 40-something trying to be friends with people half her age. Maybe the producers wanted to sex it up and hire all young people instead.

Similarly to "Kane", the ending of "Million Dollar Baby" made me cringe. She's big enough to be on a televised prize fight -- but she's all alone in a dank hospital room after? No flowers, no press, no anything? So damn weird and then the disconnected oxygen with no warning to nurses. Liked the rest of it though.

"You there! The thought of my horse trampling you gives me great joy. Security, bring him to me!"

^wrong thread. Sorry.

Lucy's Mame being in her 30s when the film began.

Back to the Future.

Why would George McFly hire someone who tried to rape his wife?

Terminator:Dark Fate. If John Connor is killed as a teen then there is no reason for Kyle Reese to ever meet Sarah Connor. John Connor never existed and the whole franchise is bullshit.

[quote]Armageddon - why did they train miners to fly a ship. wouldn't it be easier to train college education and cream of the crop astronauts to use drilling equipment?

[quote]Bruce Willis was an oilwell driller and he and his team already knew how to drill holes. They only needed to be trained how to work in low- and zero-gravity. A new crew would have to be trained in both drilling holes and working in space. There was a time limit, too.

I stand by my statement. It would be easier by far to train astronauts, who at the time would have been selected due to their high level of achievement in various fields and already had space training, to do the drilling than it would be to train oilwell drillers, who let's face probably mostly only had high school educations at best, how to fly a spacecraft and manage in space.

[quote]this bugged me a lot, too. I thought the movie itself was one of the better sequels to Texas Chainsaw, but why couldn't they have addressed the lead's age? It made absolutely no sense. Hell, it might have even better interesting to have a 40-something trying to be friends with people half her age. Maybe the producers wanted to sex it up and hire all young people instead.

I think the producers definitely wanted to appeal to a younger crowd. The writers had Heather working as a meat cutter in a grocery store,- they could have written it as a 40 something lonely woman who thought her younger co-workers were her friends and they accompanied her on the trip as a part of plan to rob her or take valuable things in the house like the hitchhiker guy did. The writers could have done flashbacks and shown how the "adoptive parents" treated her like crap when she was growing up and they could have the "adoptive parents" killed in the movie instead of that post credits scene.

Has anyone mentioned Us?

I don't recall this being a part of the movie, R105, but in the book, the producer who owned the racehorse has additional hobby, raping young girls. He is, presumably, exhausted from his latest crime when the horse's head is placed in his bed.

R143, soooo many plot holes, yet I still enjoyed it.

Marcia Brady can't remove her charm bracelet when they were building a house of cards that she never wore before or since?

The Brady's get a special performance so both parents can be included? Why didn't they just give 2 performances and let all the families at the school attend?

Ricky can't recognize his own wife in a short black wig/ EYEtalian hair cut?

Ricky becomes a movie star for one episode but they never mention his acting career again?

Dynasty is set in Atlanta but not one character has a southern accent?

Where are Buck and Andy on The Conners? Why didn't Crystal make sure Dan's letters were read to the kids?

[quote]Ricky can't recognize his own wife in a short black wig/ EYEtalian hair cut?

This made me think of the ridiculous idea no one would realize Robin Williams was wearing a latex mask in Mrs. Doubtfire. Also that Sally Field wouldn't recognize him doing one of his comic voices. He really never did that voice in all the years they were married?

R147 I loved when Arrested Development did that storyline where Tobias pulled a Mrs. Doubtfire, but everyone in the house just pretended not to know it was him so the house would be cleaned.

[quote]Ricky becomes a movie star for one episode but they never mention his acting career again?

There were twelve more at least. Bless your henna heart.

The Huxtables never encountered racism in NYC.

^Rapism?

^There was plenty of that in Dr. Huxtable's office.

Not after his movie premiered R149. They dropped the whole plot.

[quote]Dynasty is set in Atlanta but not one character has a southern accent?

I was about to tell you to turn in your gay card, but then thought you might be talking about the new one. Why is the new one set in Atlanta?

R100 I don't blame them. I burst out laughing everytime the camera panned on to Patrick Bergens bulging eyes. I felt bad but I also giggled when he slapped Julia Roberts. I really thought the plot twist would be that the new theater guy was really Bergen who had undergone plastic surgery.

The twist in Sophie's choice isn't really believable--A parent in that situation would either choose to sacrifice themselves or choose that they all die together.

That Idgie and Ruth weren't kicked out of their hick Alabama shithole town for being lezzies.

R123

It wasn't an issue of not enough room. He tried to get on the door, but it was threatening to capsize, so he stayed in the water.

R156 the guard made it clear Sophie could only keep one child, not that she could sacrifice herself. The guard was a sadist and was determined to take one of her children from her, he threatened that if she didn't choose herself he'd kill both. Better to let one have the chance of surviving than both being killed because she refused to decide.

But at Auschwitz women with small children, even just one child, on arrival were sent to the gas chamber. Sophie must have discarded the boy as well in order to survive as he looked too young to be chosen to work.

They didn't kill all the children, especially the ones who look Aryan, like Sophie's children. And yes, she was split from her son and even tried to convince one of the guards (who had taken a liking to her) to help him. In the end it wasn't clear what happened to the boy.

[quote]The Huxtables never encountered racism in NYC.

A couple of years back I came across this article that criticized the show for portraying the Huxtables as living in racism free bubble.

Diane refusing the inheritance from her wealthy family so she could be a barmaid for five years. Wealthy Stephanie working as a maid at the Stratford Inn. Wealthy and incompetent Linda working as a nursing assistant for Dr. Becker and his grouchy ass putting up with her.

Also on Becker, beautiful former model Reggie being chronically insecure and having trouble getting dates and working in a dusty diner with no actual customers. Sure, sure.

While I am at it, Mel needing to employ three waitresses when they seem to only have a couple of paying customers on most episodes.

Ann Romano sexually harasses her male underling at Connors and Davenport, he quits and she suffers no repercussions other than a meaningful closeup.

Ann slaps several characters and nobody ever fights back.

Alan Harper gets to leech off of his brother and Walden for 11 seasons and never pay any rent. But in fairness this was actually addressed on the show. Repeatedly.

3 renters believing they had to pay for a new roof instead of it being the Landlady's responsibility!

In Netflix's new "Hollywood" -- the biggest customers for Scotty Bowers' male whores are straight women.

An alcoholic running a bar.

A formerly obese woman being a professional chef and never gaining any of the weight back. No explanation of how she stays so reed thin despite being surrounded by so much delicious food.

What's Happening Now. They bring in a foster child for the first season and she is never mentioned again.

[quote] What's Happening Now. They bring in a foster child for the first season and she is never mentioned again.

That’s not unusual.

I know, right?

What's the show about the formerly obese chef?

R169 Monica in Friends

Monica was on modafinil

R164, was that episode before or after the one where they become co-owners of the house? (I honestly don't remember.)

R160, pregnant women and women with infants would be put to death with their children, but older children who could be separated from their mothers might go into the camp. They squeezed every last bit of work they could out of prisoners. Children over 2 were in fact sent to a children's camp and, if they were suitable, into the Lebensborn program, just as the book and movie depicted. That's another reason Sophie may have chosen her son: being older, he had a better chance of surviving once they were separated.

Ayayay, r173, every time I read about this stuff, it’s fresh, immense horror.

Ayayay, r173, every time I read about this stuff, it’s fresh, immense horror.

R173 thank you, I knew that wasn't a plot hole in Sophie's Choice. Very grim.

R172 The roof leak was Season 4 and Blanche put the girls on the house title in Season 7.

The last two seasons of the Will & Grace revival. Jack settling down was done poorly, Grace suddenly getting pregnant at 50, Will deciding to have a baby, and Karen & Stan getting divorced (again).

^ Agreed. Like Deb Messing looks young enough to get pregnant. And without the help of fertility drugs!

Couldn't Will and Grace just have used some of their leftover frozen eggs and sperm from season 5 to start their own brood instead of bringing Demi Lovato and an unknown father into the mix? They could have worked on this together.

It is more plausible than whatever plot they ended up with.

Not liking a direction the plot goes isn't necessarily a plot hole. Will & Grace has made some interesting choices in this reboot, but the only major plot hole they had was explaining away the original ending.

Just because a show or movie doesn't answer every question you might have doesn't mean it's a plot hole. You asking "why did she wear that blue blouse to her daughter's wedding instead of a red one?"or "why didn't he end up with his secretary instead of that awful shrew?" aren't plot holes.

Now, "how did that car start right up when it's been collecting dust and sitting under a tree for 58 years?" or "how is she alive when we saw her decapitated 12 minutes ago?" would be plot holes.

r180, we know Grace was a college freshman in 1985. That makes it pretty unlikely she'd be able to get pregnant the old-fashioned way. I'd say that's a plot hole.

Unlikely but not impossible. Not a plot hole.

In the movie "The Stepfather" the title character kills his stepdaughter's psychiatrist by beating him to a pulp with what looks like a two by four. To cover up the murder he puts the body in a car, sets it on fire (the whole car erupts in flames VERY easily) and sends it down a ravine, to make it look like the doctor died in a car accident. But any post-mortem examination would have shown the guy had been beaten to death before being burned.

Plot hole, shmot hole.

I don't want to hear anymore about Grace's hole even though I was the first one here who brought it up.

I think.

Sleepless in Seattle. They learn the little boy has bought an airline ticket to NYC to meet his father's stalker Meg Ryan at the top of the Empire State Building.

So, instead of doing anything logical like calling the cops in Seattle, calling the cops in NYC, or calling the airline to hold the kid at the airport, Tom Hanks decides to get on a plane in Seattle and follow the kid to NYC. This puts him out of touch for several hours and gives the kid time to wander NYC alone.

[Quote] This puts him out of touch for several hours and gives the kid time to wander NYC alone.

I'm not seeing the problem.

Sleepless in Seattle has an even bigger problem than that. In real life the Hanks character would have called the cops on the crazy stalker from Baltimore.

Sleepless in Seattle has an even bigger problem than that. In real life the Hanks character would have called the cops on the crazy stalker from Baltimore.

[quote]This puts him out of touch for several hours and gives the kid time to wander NYC alone.

Oh the missed opportunities!

The entire plot of "Home Alone". The parents may have been in a rush to get to the airport but wouldn't they have noticed during check-in at the airport and especially once they had boarded the aircraft and noticed an empty seat that one child was missing?

R183, couldn’t the injuries that were caused by the beating be attributed to the “accident,” especially if there was no reason to think it was a murder.

What the ME would be able to find, though, is that he was dead before the fire based on no smoke in the lungs from the fire. However, if the person was merely unconscious, but the fire and ‘crash’ finished him off, that wouldn’t be easy to see.

Sally Spectra is faking that she is dying from some mysterious disease to hold onto Waffling Wyatt but there are scenes before it is revealed that she is scamming people of her by herself crying and bemoaning the fact that she only has one month left to live.

That plot twist screams of the writers changing their minds about the direction of the story at the last minute. Did not go over well with the B&B audience, let me tell you!

Unanswered questions

1) Does Osgood Fielding III know Jerry / Daphne is a dude all along? 2) Do they stay together after the reveal?

[quote]Remember when she was disguised as a man but her nails were still painted?

OMG, I never noticed. Is that true?

Why didn't Julie Taylor on Friday Night Lights have a Texan accent like her parents?

Signs directed by Shyamalan.

Aliens invade earth, a planet covered in water, without making any plans for avoiding the water, which will kill them easily.

R155, R100 There is something weirdly comforting about this awful movie, it is a family favorite. I'll text my daughter and tell her "OMG I'm about to watch Julia Roberts get the shit kicked out of her!" And my husband used to barge through the house shrieking "LOOOOOOORA!!!!" at the top of his lungs.

In Toostie, more than one in the entertainment industry on the set working with a man in drag even had an inkling something wasn't right?

The unusual suspects

The parents in "A Quiet Place" are so concerned for the safety of their children yet they couldn't just stick to oral sex, they had to fuck and get pregnant putting all there lives in danger. I mean, yes, I would want John Krasinski inside me all the time but still.

R200 I wouldn't be able to deny John's big thick cock either. I guess you can say they fucked out of mutual grief when both devastated by what happened to the boy?

R198, that isn't a plot hole; that is suspension of disbelief.

R201 But they had to stay quiet. There is no way anyone taking John's big thick cock could stay silent. The whole family would have been wiped out from her screams

Maybe they had the kids let off fireworks while she got rogered? Or they could have worn soundproof helmets?

BATMAN VS SUPERMAN: THE DAWN OF JUSTICE! the entire movie was a plot hole, beyond ridiculous, beyond illogical and so on...the only reason to watch is to see cavill in his suit and the appearance of wonder woman.. so many plot holes that you could actually see the holes as they were happening in a scene (usually it's only after a movie is done and you think about it, do you then realize the plot holes) and more then 1 plot hole in EACH scene!...

shameful that zack snyder and others put this movie out there as is.. i'm sure their thinking was "we can put any shit out there and the comic fan boys and girls will see it!"..

The ending of Along Came A Spider. Monica Potter is revealed to be the “real” villain.

In The Bridges Of Madison County, why didn't Francessa go look for Clint Eastwood when her husband croaked? Was she trying to punish herself?

At the end of Gone With The Wind why didn't Scarlet just get Mammy to bodyslam Rhett, then they tie him up and keep him prisoner? That would have surely proved that Scar really was serious about loving him..

R203 is a fucking retard.

On the Mary Tyler Moore Show, Phyllis Lindstrom was married to a dermatologist yet they were renting the first floor of the same house as Mary and Rhoda. Shouldn't a doctor and his wife have been able to afford to own?

[quote] putting all there lives in danger.

Oh, dear!

R210, I believe it was established in her 4th appearance that Phyllis owned the house and half the neighborhood and she wanted single women living near her to explore her sappho leanings.

R108 You don't watch movie/show because someone in it is ugly to you? You sure are a bright one

^ recently there was a whole thread devoted to ugly people as a turn-off in movies and TV.

In Downton Abbey, why can Cora and Robert keeping fucking until she births a boy?

As she later gets pregnant with a boy, it's clearly possible. Why didn't they do it sooner and thus not need to worry about a distant relation inheriting?

Golden Girls: the staff at the Maltese Falcon Club know that Sophia keeps a mirror that Dorothy uses every day to check if her mother is still alive (if it fogs up, Dorothy starts the coffee). And they know to get Rose to spray it with defogger having the superior knowledge that Dorothy will stumble upon an apparently dead Kendall and put the mirror under his nose to see if he’s alive.

On this point hinges the whole episode, which is one of the best GG’s ever.

The biggest plot hole in that episode is that Blanche didn't sue her boss and the club for mental anguish.

War of the Worlds: when the martians suddenly start blasting out of their giant pods from under the surface of the earth, where they've apparently been hiding for thousands of years without ever being discovered by, say, an earthquake or mining activity (????), they first overrun the entire world and start eating the humans (what have they been eating for all these millennia?), but then they're suddenly all destroyed by a simple, common virus.

How have they avoided all the hundreds of thousands of viruses all over (and under) the earth for all this time they've been in hiding?

Did somebody already mention ‘Back to the Future’ and how changing the past won’t change the present?

For fun, r219, can you name some examples?

R213 Tell that to the 250 other people on DL who said the same.

R53, the character that Jennifer Tilly plays in Curse and Cult of Chucky is, indeed, Jennifer Tilly. It’s an alternate reality where she isn’t playing poker or acting. Of course, it’s Jennifer Tilly’s body but Tiffany inhabits it. Nica says a line in Cult along the lines of “Has anybody ever told you you look a lot like Jennifer Tilly?”

The internal logic of the movie is that she is a lookalike. They don’t realize it’s actually Jennifer Tilly’s body.

R5, because that might mean that someone is potentially filthier than her - that she was being challenged.

I thought that was the whole point of the movie...?

R108, I don’t mind Larry’s relationships with hot women all that much because he’s incredibly rich and has a good personality.

The one that bothers me is Richard Lewis. A shriveled, ugly old bag of bones with a much smaller bank account, not to mention a cranky and unpleasant personality. And he has a new knock-out girlfriend in every episode.

R200...or steal birth control from the pharmacy they raid for drugs, or walk with their children in between them or...

R225 yes they should have taken morning after and that abortion drug just in case.

Netflix has a rip off movie of A Quiet Place called The Silence. I actually prefer The Silence because the family in it is less stupid than the family in A Quiet Place.

Because R218 the aliens weren't in the ground for thousands of years, just the pods. The aliens were coming down in the lightning storm and the reporter after the airplane crash shows this on video to Tom Cruise. But I agree that no one ever found the pods.

[quote]The Good Liar had a few really big holes

Then he wasn’t a good liar, was he?

R205 I love that no one knew Jimmy Olsen got shot in the head unless they bothered to read the credits.

R214 it quickly descended into which actors they dislike.

In the movie Gone With the Wind the Torkelstein twins don't even appear to be related and the cheap copper dye job doesn't flatter them. I couldn't go any further after those so-called "twins" showed up. #Fail

Some people have no idea what a plot hole is. ^^

R230 it's "Tarleton" you tosspot.

Not a plot hole but at then end of Gone With The Wind why didn't Scarlet just drop her dress and drawers, tell Rhett to fuck her to make Bonnie Blue 2?

Tell him how horny she is and there's no way Ashley's measly bug-fucker could never make her as happy as his crooked 7-incher!

That should have been apparent from 3/4 of the posts on this thread, R231.

R233 I heard the original ending had Scarlett as the one who was storming out, telling Rhett she was off to Savannah to hook up with some hot Yankees who knew how to satisfy a lady and make her feel like a real woman! This is some of the cut dialogue, which was really ahead of it's time:

Rhett: "Cheap Yankee-diddler!"

Scarlett: "What did you say…? Who do you think you’re talking to? Who do you think YOU are? You’re NOTHING, Rhett. You are nothing. You’re a tragic boooooooozy flaccid clown. THAT’S IT: flaccid, flaaccid, FLLLLAAAAAAAACCIDD! You’ll take everything I have to give, you always have! You’re not even a man anymore AND I NEED A MAN! A REAL man not some drunken broken-down FLLAACCID carpet-bagger who is just as dead below the waist as Ashley Wilkes is!”

R235, didn't Scarlett catch Rhett and Ashley in bed together?

R236 I don't think Margaret Mitchell could stomach writing that, they got around it by having Miss Melly tell Scarlet on her deathbed. I think she also said that she caught them in flagrant at the mill and that's what really brought on the premature labour that did her in.

R236 sorry, I just checked and it was actually a heart attack that Melly had.

Later, when she was on her deathbed she overheard that Ashley had blackmailed Dr Meade into falsely claiming she was too weak to carry a child so he didn't have to fuck her!

Just watched Little Fires Everywhere and I don’t understand why nobody locked their doors. People just wander into each other’s homes. Most of the problems stem from that.

R237, r238,

MARY!!!!

Just watched some lame thing on HBO called "Look Away". The lead girl(a high schooler) breaks the leg of one of her tormentors (a popular BMOC type) in the bathroom and we never hear nor see anything about it again. There is absolutely no follow up and we don't no whether he is alive or dead and no one seems to care as he is never mentioned again in the movie.

no=know. and it's ridiculous that I would have to type a response to my own post just to ward of some idiot typing Oh dear. Grow up already.

R242, you’re taking the oh dears too seriously.

It’s merely a light hearted DL tradition of ball busting a spelling or grammar error. Don’t take it so seriously.

The abysmally horrible Netflix series, Another Life.

It was so absurdly stupid, I just wanted all the characters to die violently within the first five minutes.

"The Verdit" The judge threw out the only evidence that would have won the case and he still won. I remember it vividly because my mother smacked me across the face when I yelled out, "What the fuck was that?"

Topkapi (1964) -- the first issue is merely logical: Peter Ustinov is so afraid of heights he refuses to cross over the top of the Topkapi Palace in the dark, so Maximilian Schell makes the decision to cross right then, during the day -- despite the fact that they can be seen by anybody looking at the roof of the palace.

But this decision then creates a plot hole, or at least a major inconsistancy: once the Sultan's Dagger has been successfully stolen, Ustinov, Schell and Gilles Ségal cross back over the roof of the palace -- in the dark!

This mocks all the plot holes in Murder on the Orient Express

R244 I can't believe it's getting a second season.

[quote] I remember it vividly because my mother smacked me across the face when I yelled out, "What the fuck was that?"

LOL. How old were you at the time, R245?

In the original "Halloween", Laurie walks from her house to the Myers House to drop off a key. She runs into Tommy who she will be babysitting later on his way to school. . Later, while Loomis is outside the Myers House, he looks down the block and see the Myers car parked by Tommy's house. That means all 3 houses are within walking distance of each other. Then why when Annie picks up Laurie they have to drive so far that the day goes from bright sun to pitch black.

Also, If Loomis is walking around after he finds the car, how come he doesn't hear Laurie screaming in the streets.

Plus, Michael is seen wearing the mask while Laurie is in school, yet the Hardware store he robbed still has it's alarm going off hours later

Annie wasn’t too swift and got lost.

At least that’s what I tell myself.

R250 Also why did Annie even pull over when she saw her dad, they could have just drove by

I'd say only one of R250s examples is a plot hole (the one about Loomis not hearing her screams when he's easily in a distance to do so.)

The first one (driving) -who said Annie and Laurie were going directly to the babysitting gigs when Annie picked her up? Establishing shots of the street the houses are on don't show anything like a hardware store and since Laurie met Tommy while walking to school, it makes little sense that she would need Annie to drive her to his house unless they were going to do something else first.

Michael being in the mask in what may be hours before the store break in is a continuity error.

Annie says she will pick Laurie up at 6:30 and that the Wallace's are leaving at 7p

[quote] it makes little sense that she would need Annie to drive her to his house unless they were going to do something else first.

Scissoring?

13 or 14 R249 We watched it on VHS so not sure how long it was after it was released.

The Rich Man's Wife owns this thread.

Ending came out of absolutely nowhere.

Jagged Edge has some holes but not like this movie

Rhett knew Big Sam, the former O'Hara slave, and they were doing each other.

[quote] "The Verdit" The judge threw out the only evidence that would have won the case and he still won

That's not a plot hole. The jury decided from what they heard that the hospital was negligent. If they were convicting on emotion rather than what the persecution presented, that's a matter for the court of appeals.

Your mother smacked you because she realized you'd never be anything but a florist. With a trash mouth.

How did poor and struggling waitress Penny afford that big apartment all by herself on The Big Bang Theory?

Penny's apartment wasn't big. And that's not a plot hole.

Yes it is. Sheldon and Leonard who are physicists had to share the same one across the hall.

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"How did poor and struggling waitress Penny afford that big apartment all by herself on The Big Bang Theory? "

Penny's apartment is a one-bedroom, and is smaller and cheaper than Leonard and Sheldon's 2-bedroom place.

But even then, it's pretty clear that she can't actually afford it, she was having financial problems and letting her "check engine" light stay on for months for much of the show's run. She was obviously being unrealistic about her finances, living above her means because she thought she'd get work as an actress or meet some rich guy, and all her troubles would vanish. She may have been living in a "nice" area in the hopes of meeting some guy who could pay her bills, that's a known gold-digging tactic.

Hadn't Penny gotten some bit parts here and there which might have paid small residuals?

Penny was obviously doing what struggling actresses do when they can't find acting jobs and being a waitress does not pay the bills. She was a part-time hooker.

Any time travel film or series.

Timeless, Legends etc.

The Von Trapps leaving Salzburg for Switzerland just by climbing a mountain--but Salzburg is several hundred miles east of the Austrian/Swiss border.

"The Big Sleep." At the end, no one explains who killed the Sternwoods' chauffeur nor why. (His death did not give anyone anything that was clear to be gained.) The error goes back to the original novel, where his murder also left unexplained. Howard Hawks and his writing team called Raymond Chandler to ask when preparing the screenplay, and Chandler said, "Beats me."

Not a plot hole but wondered why the director chose an older mother than she’s supposed to be in Sleeping with the Enemy. At the funeral, the headstone shows 1962-1990 meaning she’s dead at 28. The mother however looks like she’s in her 70s. They could’ve chosen a younger mother than that.

Penny on the BBT was named "Penny" because she is something that you would pick up off the street. Seriously, that is how they chose her name. The early episodes made it clear that she was used to getting guys to pay for things. She may not have been an outright hooker, but she definitely used guys to get by.

[quote] Any time travel film or series.

Since time travel in and of itself is pure fiction, there can be no plot holes. It would all be suspension of disbelief.

[quote]Penny on the BBT…

What is the BBT?

R274 Big Bang Theory

Thank you!

Diane Chambers lived in a nice apt on Cheers but she came from money. But she claimed she didn't want any of it so how did she pay the rent?

Rebecca Howe's father paid for her fancy apartment on his job as a navy admiral. Even though she was the manager of a bar. She was highly competent at first but for comedy reasons turned her into an incompetent ditz.

We never saw Sam Malone's apartment for some reason.

[quote] We never saw Sam Malone's apartment for some reason.

And that’s a plot hole to you?

Its apparent from half these posts that these morons dont know the definition of a plot hole.

The entire run of The Golden Girls

I'm kind of digging the Torkelsteins. Someone should do an updated GWTW set in modern day NY/NJ with lots of Borscht Belt humor.

Mrs. Doubtfire. How could his wife and kids NOT recognize him? All he ever did around them was make voices and faces, they would have known him a mile away. You can get away with a certain amount of make up, but latex appliances? Up close in bright light for hours on end? No way. And the ending was the worst. You can't put on and take off that kind of complex make up a bathroom mirror over and over again, minutes apart. It's impossible. If the entire production had been more farcical and abstract it could have worked. But playing it, relatively, realistic just didn't.

^ Along those lines, no one ever recognized that Superman was Clark Kent? Just because he put some glasses on?

Every superhero with a "secret identity".

Nerdy "ugly" girl who turns into a fox by letting her hair down and taking off her glasses.

Mrs. Doubtfire and superhero secret identities are not plot holes; they’re examples of suspension of disbelief.

Yeah, this thread could’ve been so much better if people knew what a plot hole was.

A generic example of a plot hole would be something like a woman comes home and finds someone killed in her house. She screams and immediately in the background you hear police sirens and they show up, yet nobody called 911.

Not things that just because we didn’t see them mean they didn’t happen, such as characters using the bathroom, etc.

How do we know someone didnt hear the person gettting murdered and call the police who, then, showed up precisely at the time the woman screamed in the kitchen? Your supposition disproves your thesis -just because we didnt see someone call the police d oesnt mean the y didnt do ot. Hell, even the murderer cojld habe called the police in order tp fra!e the woman or the victim could have called just before dying-actually setting the plot in motion. This has LIFETIME movie written all over it.

A family with 3 kids (soon to be 2) who never fart, burp, belch, scream or gasp. A deaf girl self aware enough to know whether or not she's making the slightest noise. Raccoons who are soundless for thir entire existence until they can cause a jump scare and then be eaten by the hypersensitive to sound alien. An alien that scientists know is hypersensitive t o sound (but not so hypersensitive that a newspaper.printing press cant print newspapers.alerting people to this fact). but an entire world.of scientists cant find a frequency to make them vulnerable.

And the nail on the stairs, R289.

The nail on the stairs.

R288, wtf was that?

A reply to R287, R291. Do you always just comment on threads without reading anything that came before it? Oh, that's right- this is DL.

Speed: That any vehicle could get above 50 MPH during LA rush hour

R292, that mess of misspellings was a response? And you stand by it?

Phenomenon. Every time Sandra Bullock wakes up it's a different day and she's trying to prevent her husband from dying, but it turns out her actions are what kills him.

Downton Abbey

Bates lifting a paralyzed Matthew into bed but unable to lift small items or do other smaller tasks required of Valet/Footman.

Bates easily strolling around a prison without assistance of his cane.

Premonition. My bad @ R295.

R295 lol I was going to say....I think Phenomenon is John Travolta.

Sex And The City was full of plot holes but the one that really took the cake was when Cynthia Nixon's character dumps Blair Underwood for David Eigenberg. No carbon based lifeform would've done that.

R299, that show had major plot holes right from the start. A rich, good-looking, single man like Big only has one-night stands with trashy sex columnists with horrible tastes in fashion. He could easily find thousands of far more attractive and sexier girlfriends than Carrie.

Plus, a prisspot like Miss Park Avenue Charlotte would never be friends with the other three, especially not with Carrie who is from a different socio-economic class altogether.

R300 Charlotte loved being part of an "edgy" group led by a (according to the show) cool, semi-celeb. And as it showed, Charlotte had moved on from her prissy sorority sisters and enjoyed a bif of dirty sex talk.

With Big, we're supposed to believe he fell for cool Carrie's unique personality and killer snatch.....

Omg, I've been rewatching SATC late at night in bed waiting to fall asleep. I am finding so much of it ridiculous that I ignored first time around. Carrie sleeps and has sex in her bra and sabotages every relationship she's in and Charlotte is too uptight and prissy. I actually like Miranda better this time though.

R287, that isn't a plot hole. More often than not, that is a continuity problem. The scene in which the police were called was cut for pacing, or similar. Here are a few examples of a plot hole:

A plot hole would be establishing that a character is diabetic and then having him do something that would send a diabetic into a coma.

A plot hole is having a character or object do something that is physically impossible, such as being in two places at once (unless it is a fantasy, of course.)

A plot hole is something that is glaringly inaccurate in order to advance the plot, e.g, in The Lives of Others, the Stasi agent would never be doing surveillance alone or without being watched himself; however, the plot does not work under that reality. It isn't , however, a glaring inaccuracy that does not advance the plot. The fact that Sarah Howard, in The Alienist, smokes on a train in 1896, is inaccurate, but it has nothing to do with the plot. Therefore, it is not a plot hole.

It is not to be confused with suspension of disbelief, such as to realizing that the men in Tootsie of Mrs, Doubtfire are in drag.

Speaking of Tootsie and suspension of disbelief.

How did Michael Dorsey perpetuate the fraud that he was a woman and not get caught when they were issuing him his paychecks? How would he be able to cash his checks if they were under the name Dorothy Michaels?

That is some good agent he had there.

Noah’s Galvin

Noah’s Galvin.

[quote]Plot holes You Could Drive a Truck Through

Oh, ok. But nothing larger than a pickup.

r18 r38 "Climactic" not "climatic". We are discussing drama, not weather.

"How did Michael Dorsey perpetuate the fraud that he was a woman and not get caught when they were issuing him his paychecks?"

Back when checks were a thing, actors could put their stage name on a check along side their real name, and joint checking accounts existed. I don't know what kind of proof of existence a bank needed to add a name to a checking account, but someone pulling a "Tootsie" could have done either.

As for his co-workers realizing he's a man, well, the script said he did his own hair and makeup and dressed himself. And I presume he had the presence of mind to use a stall in the women's room, and remembered to sit down when he did. And unlike a lot of Trannies, Dustin Hoffman is a small slim man, with no broad shoulders or bulging muscles to give him away. He actually looked petite, next to Jessica Lange and Geena Davis, they're big tall gals.

Thanks R309!

But there was still that mannish mug and mannerisms on Tootsie. Any gay worth his weight would have picked up on him immediately. Don't tell me there weren't gays on set. It's the entertainment business, fer christsakes, it's what we do!

R54 how about just prerecord the Christmas or radio speeches. His subjects wouldn’t have know the difference or cared.

In Doubt why didn't the dirty old nun just rig up the Priest's room with hidden cameras and get video evidence?

R76 Dang, why’d you make me relive this? For whatever reason I always loved Buffy’s mom

Not a plot hole but a response to R69 R70 R71 R76 Buffy topic ... the final scene of of Season 1 broke my 16 year old homo heart

I wish Dawn was a plot hole.

I honestly could not believe the good press "Knives Out" got because it was the most ridiculously plotted movie I'd ever seen.

I know this isn't a plot hole exactly but what about Mikkos Cassidine's weather machine? That was one huge suspension of disbelief.

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Comedy perfection

I watched a couple of seasons of Dexter when it came out and then moved on to other things so decided to watch the third season last week, which features Jimmy Smits. I really forgot how detached from reality the characters and plots were even though I like the premise of the series.

This isn't a plot hole exactly but Dre on Blackish and the people he works with at the ad agency never seem to do any actual work just endless bantering about race issues. At least on Bosom Buddies they had some actual accounts and clients. Dre has a dream job and never seems to have to worry about money. I know his wife is a doctor but still with all those kids it seems kind of unrealistic that they never have any money or work issues. It is kind of a fantasy world designed to teach the audience life lessons.

[Quote] It is kind of a fantasy world designed to teach the audience life lessons.

Which has never happened on a television show before.

Fair point! I thought of that right after I posted it.

R210, I know someone made a joke, but it is established later that Phyllis and Lars do own the building. They conceal it from the tenants but Mary eventually works out that P&L Management is the Lindstrom's company.

More suspension of disbelief than plot hole, but in mrs doubtfire,s vein, in Agatha Christie’s Murder in Mesopotamia a woman marries these man twice over without realizing it. It ruins an otherwise very fine book.

i remember recently a few years back on a spanish telenova the gorgeous sex symbol sebastian rulli's character being too dumb to realize that his best "male" friend at work and confidant was actually a woman dressed up as a boy (severe short hair cut, no makeup of course, talking deeper, etc.) who was in lust and love with him and trying to get close to him however she could and eventually try to seduce him...

when she was acting and looking like a woman, like herself, she wore of course make-up, wore her long black wig and was a dancer at a club his character liked to drink and visit at...

EVENTUALLY when he was having problems with his girlfriend, she in her female guise DID seduce him and she got him to get her pregnant! (unfortunately she lost the baby)... HIS CHARACTER NEVER put two and two together? i mean she didn't even have to say to him "oh, he's my brother, that's why we resemble each other a bit!" lie!....

have to say it was quite kinky hot the next episode, the next morning when his character goes to his best male friend buddy from work's place and tells him all about having great sex with this woman and he has no idea he and she are the same person! and she smirks in kinky delight that he has no idea and that she did get him for sex!...