Please Tell Us Why You Won't Wear A Mask

I'm doing my OWN thing in my OWN time, daddy!

It smears my lipstick.

This is not an anonymous board, dear. People may have concerns Gov. Whitmer may track down and jail them.

I'm a degenerate who deserves to die gasping for a ventilator, weeping at my hubris!!!

I’m afraid of the ridicule.

They don't do any good. It's a feel good thing.

Sure, I suppose I shouldn’t be wearing one either.

Masc for masc! UB2. No pic no chat!

The type of masks the general public will be wearing only prevents droplet spray: sneezing, coughing. You don't need it in your backyard or in a park or something. You need it for stores and workplaces.

If you don't (and you're not homeless, mentally ill, or have trouble breathing) wear one when in public places - outdoors/indoors except on or in your own property - starting tomorrow you can be fined $300 per the Cambridge City Council's vote last night.

The joggers ruined it for everyone.

Because I want and look forward to killing.

I'll wear one. Not because I think it's especially useful, but out of respect for other people.

[quote]They don't do any good. It's a feel good thing.

That's what I told my parents... "Remember when you had to hide under your desk in school for nuclear fallout drills?"

Nonetheless, I'll wear one for the same reason. I don't want to be responsible for anyone else getting frightened.

I’ve already explained this a hundred times!

I want to be able to look people in the eye.

The basic masks don't do a thing. I check my temperature a few times every day, and work from home, so I am never in public. I would wear the n95 mask to prevent being infected whenever I go out, but I simply can't find any. If they were available, I would wear them. The plain masks that are available? They won't help.

R9 is correct.

R9 is right. The purpose of the ordinary masks that most people are wearing is to protect others from you, not to protect you from them. You don't need to wear one if you're in a place where you can be sure of the ability to distance yourself from others (and do so), even it's theoretically a public place. You certainly don't need one in your car by yourself.

Walking alone or with another member of your household through your quiet suburban neighborhood - no mask needed. Walking in a crowded public park with people everywhere - mask needed.

This is considered too complex a concept for the masses to understand, so they make blanket rules that just piss people off and inspire defiance.

BUT R16, you should wear a mask when you're around other people because, notwithstanding all your amateur diagnostics, you could still be infected and spread the virus to others. This is a public health measure to protect the public and prevent the spread of the virus. It has nothing to do with protecting you, individually. You should do it because it's the right thing to do, but if you don't the government is completely justified in forcing you to do so or fining you.

Well Trump finally put on an appropriate mask.

"Stanford economic policy research experts state that “the firm recommendation against masks in community settings appears incompatible with the available evidence”. Modeling by Yale researchers estimates that “the benefits of each additional cloth mask worn by the public are conservatively in the $3,000-$6,000 range due to their impact in slowing the spread of the virus”. A cloth mask is basically free, since you can make one from old T-shirts or sheets. So the economic payoff is hard to question. What other investment pays off by over 1,000 to 1?

One huge challenge is that mask wearing only really pays off when most people do it. A Food and Drug Administration analysis of the flu estimates that if 50% of the population uses a mask, virus transmission is reduced by half. If 80% of the population uses a mask, the virus is “essentially eliminated”.

I wanna show my pearly white teeth and my stunning red lipstick.

But I've heard that masks are good for fat hoes though as they will pretty much stop fatties from shoving food down their obstructed throats.

My breath is ATROCIOUS behind the mask.

The danger is of being in a place with a high viral load. Prisons, nursing homes, schools full of untested kids, submarines, subway cars/trains, planes...

Again: every year, between 30,000 and 50,000 people die of a flu in the U.S. Mostly the elderly and unwell.

The only good thing about this is Trump will not be re-elected. He had one challenge and he failed it. He didn't create the good (Obama) economy and he can't fix it. All the Democrats have to do is run his nutty comments on a loop and he will look like the charlatan he is.

[quote]My breath is ATROCIOUS behind the mask.

I'm finding the same thing but I've also used a single use mask 4 days in a row.

[quote] The only good thing about this is Trump will not be re-elected.

You're repeating a Rep talking point, that Dems like this.

I have antibodies because I've already had the virus! Well, I don't [italic]know[/italic] know that I had it, because they won't test me, but I'm sure I had it back in January, because I was real sick and couldn't taste nothing, so yeah, it was that, and I now have antibodies protecting me!

I am jogging and need to breathe!!!!🏃‍♂️🏃‍♀️

Because I am in a semi-rural area where at most I encounter one or two other people when I am out walking the dogs and we cross the road and stay about 50 feet from each other.

But I'd 100% wear one if I went to a store or other public place or if I lived in a city where people were all around.

It makes me feel short of breath. I guess my respiratory process is already spazzed in some way.

The CDC recommendation is to wear masks in settings where social distancing of 6 feet is difficult or impractical. Wear I live, I can easily get 6 or more feet between me and other walkers during my morning walks. So no mask, and I make the move to distance. Grocery stores, pharmacies, takeout...mask is on. All compliant with CDC guidelines.

I wore a mask and look what happened to me!

I'll be honest. I don't know where to get one. I know one or two places around here; one is price gouging; the other is a homemade outfit that has a two-week turnaround time. I've been stupidly exposed thus far, and have ordered food and gone shopping in stores several times and haven't caught it. So, maybe I won't catch it. I try not to touch anything with my fingers. (This is easy for me, as I've always been a germ freak.) Also, when I go in the store lately, 90 percent of other people there are already wearing a mask, so perhaps it's safe. (I know this is a bit selfish.) I have dickie turtleneck neck warmer thing, that's designed to be pulled up over the mouth and nose for warmth in cold weather. I tried wearing it in the store, and I felt hot...and my breath stinks.

Where. I despise typing. And autocorrect more.

R32, Etsy.com. a zillion options.

R27

"Even passing someone running or cycling within 6 feet would be an exceptionally unusual way to contract the virus, infectious-disease specialists say. The mental-health and immune-system benefits of spending time outside outweigh the risks of spreading or contracting the virus."

I think it is disgraceful that the government has not stepped in to require companies to make more n95 masks. There seems to be no effort whatsoever on increasing the supply. I can not believe how much Trump has botched this, but, then again, I can. My only hope is he gets infected and dies.

This virus is extremely contagious. Don't listen to fucking "experts" who say it's impossible to get it whatever way...they don't know shit.

Yes, you could be outdoors and someone could cough and you could get it. I've been coughed on so many times prior to this virus, when sidewalks were packed etc, they cough as they walk past you, you don't even have time to avoid it etc.

Masks mess up my hair.

I wear one in stores or close quarters I don’t normally wear one outside

R26. I am pretty sure I had it early in Feb. You can order an antibody test at Quest Diagnostics for $115.

Because it’s hot and uncomfortable and fucking POINTLESS unless I am going to be in a stagnant area forced with people for a length of time someone might cough or sneeze.

Riding a bus and people are on board? Fine, I’ll pop on a mask just to be polite.

Walking around the neighborhood? Get fucked, Karen.

Grocery store? Eh, I’ll wear one to avoid women nagging.

Running in somewhere to pick up an order quickly? Eat me.

The air isn’t fucking poison, but the pro-mask psycho bitches pretend like it is.

My job requires my mouth to be available at all times.

I wish I could wear a mask. I can't breathe in a mask. I only have about 28% lung capacity and every time I try I start to pass out. If you have breathing problems they are advising you not to wear a mask.

The virus may have peaked in my area, but as of YESTERDAY the local authorities made masks mandatory for whenever anyone goes outside.

Odd timing, but maybe because the restrictions have successfully kept death and infection rates low, people around here are starting to act like the virus is no big deal.

[quote] My job requires my mouth to be available at all times

I had such job one time. Very hard job. Be best Vice President!

I don’t like the way it feels and it doesn’t even protect me.

You have to wear one in Houston now or face a fine. I got one off Next Door and one off Amazon. Each cost about $10. It was not as big an ordeal as I thought it would be.

Cloth masks protect you from droplets which have a high virus load. N95 only offer a slight advantage over cloth masks. Those not wearing masks r blue collar types who have no one smart in their circle. Trump should be wearing a mask.

R46. Wrong

Goes back to the first years after I "came out." At Halloween, my friends warned me that you don't want to cover up your face for a couple of different reasons, particularly if your face is the only thing you've got going for you.

Years later, my face is not such a selling point. So, instead of wearing a mask, I tape my wallet over my nose.

The strangest thing is people driving in their cars - with no other passengers - windows up, and still wearing a mask.

R50 made me realize that’s another reason I don’t want to wear a mask I have an amazing face

R36 He's using the Defense Production Act to keep the meat-packing houses (already Covid-19 hot spots) open so McDonald's can sell hamburgers.

But he won't force anyone to make masks or ventilators.

1. masks only protect others from my germs. It doesn't protect me

2. I live in a small town outside of Atlanta. Most of the town is populated by science denying, trump loving, religious nutters. We need less people like them. I'm doing the world a favor

3. I only go out to the grocery store once a week at off peak times.

Because it's not holloween.

I can't eat with a mask on.

I can't breathe wearing a mask. Therefore, I only wear one to gain entry to places that require them. Once I'm outside, I remove the mask.

I do wear it in public places if people are nearby. On a city block when no one else is on it, I pull it down and let my nose breathe.

I'd wear a mask if they were provided to use like South Korea or Turkey is providing for their citizens. Am I going to pay a frau to sew a floral cloth mask for me? No.

J. Crew is selling masks.

R51, you can't touch the mask until you're ready to take it off for the day. I go to two or three places when I venture out. I've had people point and laugh at me in my car and I don't give a fuck.

My employer requires us to wear masks and they even gave us the masks.

Before you enter the building an employee in a mask, gloves and gown takes your temperature. If it is over 99.9° you are sent home.

I can't suck cock with a mask on.

When people aren’t wearing them in NYC (usually white men in their 20s and 30s) it seems like such a blatant F*** you to the rest of the population. For the 1000th time, it’s to protect OTHERS from YOU.

I have no interest in wearing a mask, it’s uncomfortable AF but I wear one because it protects others. It’s completely antisocial entitled bulls**t to be walking around NYC without a mask.

My god.

Other places, you do your thing.

[quote]What other investment pays off by over 1,000 to 1?

Having your father-in-law get "elected" President.

R64 it protects YOU from inhaling droplets!!!!!!

Because the blood of Jesus protects me!

Not sure why this is so fucking hard. How long have we known that you can be HIV positive for years and not know it and still infect others—so you get tested and practice safe sex.

Since we can’t get readily tested right now for the Coronavirus, you wear a mask like you would wear a condom during sex—to prevent the transmission of the virus from someone who has it to someone who doesn’t.

However, in the US we’ve fetishized personal freedom to the point of absolute stupidity. In the case of HIV we have “bug chasers” who seek to intentionally infect themselves—or people who are HIV+ but say it is just a hoax and don’t take meds or seek treatment until they are chronically ill or dying..

There will always be people too stupid and selfish to do anything to take care of themselves or others. All we can do is stay away from them and hope their untimely death isn’t a painful one.

I wear one when I go to the drugstore, but it fogs up my glasses. And I feel like I am way too hot. Don't like the masks and feel so sorry for health workers who have to wear them plus other things like goggles on top part of face.

I'm a fucking sociopath who doesn't care about other people! (Or is it psychopath-- the perennial DL discussion. )

I wear a dust mask when doing yard work because it helps with allergies, and I wonder if neighbors think I'm wearing it because of the virus.

I almost never leave the house but when I do I wear one, because what I had in February may very well have been CV19, plus my partner has an essential job and is at work with hundreds of others all day, and there's no use accidentally spraying someone with the virus if I'm a carrier.

I have been an essential worker throughout this whole ordeal. The job just started issuing masks, and employee temperature screening mid April. The 'hoax' began in February, so just a little late in the game? Plus, essential workers haven't been tested, as some could of been asymptomatic. Until essential workers can get universally tested, the public has no way of knowing what exposure is out there as they shop, so masks must be mandatory. If 50% of the people wear a mask, infection is reduced by 50%. If 80% wear a mask, the infection could be eradicated. I purchased the attached masking system, as the heat beneath the mask is almost unbearable and I am hoping it cools me down. I'll be walking around looking like an astronaut. I'll let you know how it goes. They do not accept returns, as your could be returning infected units so buyer beware! But there are many color choices to make a DL swoon.

R69 Right before you put the mask on, wash your glasses with soap and water and dry with a soft cloth. Something about the soap keeps the fogging down.

I won't wear a mask because I believe that our personal health choices should not be influenced by political views.

However, I have not objected when fellow performers have chosen to wear masks; that's their choice. My choice is NOT to wear a mask.

Soap Opera Digest readers should know wearing a mask is no longer entirely voluntary. Those who began by requiring masks for performers now resort to extreme tactics in pursuit of their express goal of 100 percent conformity.

Offering masks to celebrities was, in my view, a benign and healthy action. On the other hand, aggressively badgering healthy actresses to wear masks is not only demeaning to artists, but an offense against my personal freedoms.

First, it misguidedly politicizes human tragedy. A prime example was Kathy Griffin, who complained about inadequate COVID treatment, while her actions selfishly denied COVID victims of healthcare.

Second, any attempt to force conformity to a single social agenda attacks the freedom of expression. The extreme activities that resort to harassment to compel actors and actresses to wear these masks are practicing a '90s brand of McCarthyism and their behavior is deplorable. Our community was devastated by political extremists in the 1950s and again became a target during the last presidential campaign. It surpasses belief that men and women in the entertainment field would resort to shameful practices that the enemies of artistic freedom have used against us.

Sadly, it falls to some of us who ardently support COVID victims and COVID research to resist these tactics by personal example. Believe me, the easy way out would be to self-isolate and keep silent. But I won't, because I don't want these appalling tactics to succeed.

[quote]Again: every year, between 30,000 and 50,000 people die of a flu in the U.S. Mostly the elderly and unwell.

Not in just 3 months you dip shit that's a yearly total. We are up to 50,000 so lets compare apples to apple one year at this rate assuming no one goes back to work, school, gyms or public events we will have 200,000 dead. NOT THE SAME AS THE FLU.

I wanted to watch the Blue Angels fly over in NYC in a large crowd without social distancing or a mask to show my support for Merka.

Its a no brainer. As long as you don’t assume you’re invincible because you are wearing one and follow all other recommended cautionary guidelines, why not wear a mask ? It may help and how can it harm ?

As for fuckers who whine about their freedoms and being told what to do, just stop, take a moment and think about all the other impingements on your precious freedoms that you do daily. Seat belt ? Speed limit ? Helmets ? Overdraft ? Credit card ? Loan ? You are being datamined by the minute, used for revenue, tracked. Your freedoms are mostly placebos. Get over yourselves.

I knew people who thought AIDS was a hoax (or didn’t want it to limit their sexual freedom) and ended up dying of it in the 80s/90s Illness and death limits everything, including sexual freedom.

I also know people who got careless with safe sex and are HIV positive and wished they’d been more careful so they could be taking PREP today instead of HIV meds that are hard on their organs and have side effects.

I never had sex without a condom even when I knew I was negative, just in the off chance I might have been recently infected. I didn’t want to be responsible for having given someone HIV.

Make good choices, folks. Some dumb ones are fatal.

[quote]I knew people who thought AIDS was a hoax (or didn’t want it to limit their sexual freedom) and ended up dying of it in the 80s/90s Illness and death limits everything, including sexual freedom.

I remember that as well. Those people are all dead now. Slow death, one took a step further as a fuck you I am doing it my way, only he failed. Took a bunch of pills while he was in the hospital to OD but they ended up saving him. That's their job! It took 2 tries to off himself for good. Ironically, had he started treatment back then like other people I know including myself, he might have very well been alive today.

Wearing a mask also protects you, it's not just about protecting everyone from you.

Yep it’s just a good precaution. Instead you have dumbasses making it a civil rights issue.

OK Ms Rosa Coronavirus Parks.

[quote] you can't touch the mask until you're ready to take it off for the day.

What? Why the hell not? Put some hand sanitizer on and take it off, or lower it under your chin.

[quote]like other people I know including myself,

*eyeroll*

I love it because I don’t have to smile at people who walk by.

I love it because I don’t have to smile at people who walk by.

[quote] Again: every year, between 30,000 and 50,000 people die of a flu in the U.S. Mostly the elderly and unwell.

New Jersey’s governor has said numerous times: They currently have lost more to COVID-19 than the last THREE flu seasons COMBINED. In about 6 weeks, too.

Fuck off fraucunt R64. No need to be a bitch because the PTA meetings are canceled.

[quote] couldn't taste nothing

Oh, dear.

[quote] you can't touch the mask until you're ready to take it off for the day.

Again, the purpose for the most part is to protect other people. Having touched your mask to take it off and on is not going to change the fact that when you're wearing it near other people it will somewhat protect them from your exhalations. What difference does it make if the mask has some germs on it?

Masks are why I don't see sit down restaurants opening again.

I live in NY so I wear a mark whenever I leave the apartment. My building has requested all residents to wear one, even just going down to the lobby to pick up deliveries or when using the laundry room.

I hate wearing one as my glasses fog up. I stopped wearing contacts because you're not supposed to touch your eyes but it's hard going anyplace when you can't see.

[quote] I live in NY so I wear a mark whenever I leave the apartment.

I had to wear a mark once.

A scarlet “A.”

I bought a mask off Etsy. It's a flimsy little piece of fabric that is loose when I wear it. I don't feel like it does anything. I live in a low density city so the only time I would put it on is to go grocery shopping, and I'm trying to do that less and less because I am tired of the hassle.

[quote] I live in NY so I wear a mark

That'll teach me to wear my regular glasses and not my computer glasses.

Getting old sucks

Love you R92!

Because this boy shore does have a purty mouth!

I minimize touching my mask because each time you touch your mask, you're increasing the odds of contamination. And if you get it on your hands, you could touch your mouth/eyes/nose and contaminate other things. Of course, if I have to adjust it when I'm out, I do it, but sanitize before and after. I hate seeing on tv when people take their masks off to speak--that's exactly when you should have your mask on.

I have one proper cloth mask, made by a friend. I rotate it with things I already have on hand--handkerchiefs, bandanas, balaclava, buffs and old cycling jersey I cut up. The handkerchiefs are the most comfortable but likely because they are thin and offer the least protection.

Eh...masks are another middle class vaginal hysteria.

Seriously R97.

The frau : male ratio on the MARY! scale is like 85 : 15

And the men that are frauen about this are cockles hipsters.

Male mask wearers are beta cucks

I’ve been wearing a mask when doing my once a week grocery / pharmacy run (my cat has cancer, hence the multiple pharmacy trips - I refilled my one prescription in early March and got enough for three months).

It’s hot, it’s uncomfortable, and I maintain social distancing anyways. Covid-19 diagnoses in my state are now decreasing. I’m going to Home Depot this afternoon and I’m not planning on wearing a mask. I’m just going to take a bunch of vitamin C and think positive thoughts.

R100, in my state (NY) you need a mask to enter home depot. They have a big sign posted on the door.

r101

Stores are free to discriminate based on anything that is not illegal.

Remember if you are wearing anything but an n95 (or equivalent) you're only kidding yourself.

The virus goes through cloth and other kinds of masks, to the regulation to wear one is just something to make the public "feel good."

[quote] in my state (NY) you need a mask to enter home depot. They have a big sign posted on the door.

Not just Home Depot. I've seen the sign requiring face coverings at Duane Reade (Walgreen's), CVS, and the supermarket

If I were in New York I would absolutely still be wearing a mask.

R97 The prim and proper ladies of the suburbs have moved on to face visors.

[quote]I already have on hand--handkerchiefs, bandanas, balaclava,

We have baccala.

[quote] and I maintain social distancing anyways.

Good.

Anyone who adds an S to anyway I don’t want near me.

[quote] We have baccala.

And we have baklava.

Because God is my mask and will save me

I just don't have one.

R103. Wrong!!!!!!!!! The droplets are what are potent and cloth protects wearer from them!!!!!!! N95 protects u from airborne virus bits which are too weak to infect you in most setting s.

Joggers are the fucking worst. I don't mind moving out of their way but instead they just swoop down on you from behind inches away and encroach on your air with their panty breath and droplets of spit. Cunts.

Not actual panty breath mind you, though sometimes it smells like Cheryl's unmentionables now I think about it.

J. Crew!

I love you, r113!

Because it's just plain retarded.

I kind of like the idea of infecting people like I’m the hand of god

It is scintillating, innit, r117?

[quote]The plain masks that are available? They won't help.

That's why you add filters. Some do a better job than others and do indeed help. This project had a bunch tested with actual COVID19 particles and are working on testing the next batch of materials, incluing nylon and rayon. Nothing is 100%, but it's disingenuous to claim they do nothing at all.

I enjoy wearing my surgeon's mask. I can pretend I am Sanjay Gupta heading in to the OR to save someone's life.

[quote]Cloth masks protect you from droplets which have a high virus load. N95 only offer a slight advantage over cloth masks.

The 95 in N95 means at least 95% of particulate is trapped or blocked from entering the mask. Cloth masks with filters, although definitely helpful, do not offer anything near that. The highest rated filter so far in testing was 60% (2 layers of Tool Box blue shop towels- I use 4 for hopefully better results).

[quote]I bought a mask off Etsy. It's a flimsy little piece of fabric that is loose when I wear it.

Get a better one with adjustable elastic, or that ties behind your head and neck. Some have flannel or fiberfill as a backing, making them less flimsy.

[quote]masks only protect others from my germs. It doesn't protect me

So you can't be bothered to protect others? They are, after all, wearing theirs to protect you. If everyone wears them (especially with filters), then there is very little particulate in the air for you to inhale, and vice versa.

[quote]I stopped wearing contacts because you're not supposed to touch your eyes but it's hard going anyplace when you can't see.

Honey, just wash your hands with hot water and soap for a decent time, and you can put the contacts in/take them out. There is no need to stumble around. Seriously, Google this if you don't believe me.

I would wear one if it looked like this

R121 homemade masks filter out the droplets which have the high virus load. So, homemade makes you about 95 percent safe while n95 make you 98 percent safe. The small stuff that n95 filters needs to be in high concentration to be a threat so only medical people need n95.

I don’t feel like it. I’ll stay away from people and they can stay away from me too

R124, please see link at r119, which shows actual results, not speculation. Of course cloth can stop some droplet transmission, but I could feel moisture from my breath through one of my thinner ones, so it is not 100%. Breath vapor is another way to potentially spread this virus.

If you have links to actual testing with the COVID19 virus that disputes mine, please post it. I'd like to see the results. A guy in the UK ran some promising ones, but later admitted he did not actually test with any actual viral particles.

[quote]homemade masks filter out the droplets which have the high virus load.

Homemade masks are not all the same.

frankly, because I don't care

The point of the mask is to protect those around you, not so much protect yourself. If you are asymptomatic, wearing a mask prevents you from infecting others. Not wearing a mask means you don’t give a flying fuck about anyone but yourself.

[quote]Homemade masks are not all the same.

i'm sure your hermes scarf is MUCH more refined, bunky. but all masks are better than none

I get out of the house at first light and walk, I'm not wearing a mask. I also choose to walk in the street at that hour as there is barely any traffic. If I do see someone they usually are on the sidewalk and we have a car between us because I'm walking in the street.

In tricky spots to be in the street, I'm on the sidewalk and if I see someone coming toward me I will step into the street between cars as far away from the curb as I can get.

All of us out walking are being really aware from what I have observed. We all make sure to keep our distance. I'd also say that early in the morning about half are wearing masks and half are not.

[quote]Not wearing a mask means you don’t give a flying fuck about anyone but yourself.

not a single american cares, as one can read from this thread. no one cares. americans care give a fuck

[quote]i'm sure your hermes scarf is MUCH more refined, bunky. but all masks are better than none

I wear cloth masks with 4 layers of blue shop towels as a filter, "Bunky." Nowhere in my statement did I criticize masks. I merely stated the obvious- they aren't all the same, so we can't claim they all are as good as N95s.

I do wear one when I go outside, but I find it very hard on my breathing after about 10 minutes. So I can sorta understand why some people don’t like to wear it.

I have an N95 mask that I wear when I go into stores 133. I have found that breathing through that mask for an extended period of time aggravates my sinuses and my throat.

I purposely walk early because the streets are basically empty and that way I don't have to breath through cloth. I make sure I'm getting back home about the time the majority of people will be out walking.

Because I’m in Australia, covid isn’t as bad here. I feel sorry for you poor bastards in the U.S

Thanks Aussie, we're not all gonna die despite the gloom and doom patrol. There's 350,000,000+ of us.

I live in a very rural area that has had zero cases. The people who live here don't understand why they should be bound by the same rules and regulations that apply to NYC and other densely populated areas. They don't understand why the few restaurants we have are closed when nobody within 90 miles is sick. Different rules need to apply to different parts of the country.

Here’s an analogy for you golden shower aficionados:

If a guy pisses on you and you have no pants on, you’re gonna get wet. If you have pants on, you’ll still get wet, but not directly.

If he and you both have pants on, he’s only going to piss on himself.

[quote]Different rules need to apply to different parts of the country.

R138 seeks common sense and rational thinking in a maelstrom of hysteria and absurdity. See this thread and similar for abundant examples.

^^^ bubonic ^^^

[quote] americans care give a fuck

Oh, dear.

R140 The same people who always meltdown and panic about major world events (journalists, suburbanites, etc) are having a nervous breakdown in public about Covid-19.

It's their own fault everyone is ignoring them, if they'd cut the bullshit and be real with the general public there'd be a lot more compliance with mask-wearing.

But the truth is a let down. Corona is bad, but not that bad, and any area outside the NYC metro can operate normally but with masks and extra handwashing.

Panic sells r143

Disney will sell character face masks, donate proceeds to charity

I don't see anyone talking about using glasses and gloves with the masks. In public places, like wal-mart, I believe they are just as important. Of course not when driving around or taking a walk, etc.

Because gloves don’t do shit unless you change them frequently.

It seems too many people are relying on gloves and saying “well, I’m wearing gloves!” I saw a guy at the gas station the other day wearing surgical gloves while he pumped gas. That’s a good thing. When he was done though, where did he go? Right back into his car and took them off in the car. Gloves are one time use. He should’ve taken them off at the pump and threw them away.

^true. I haven't pumped gas in weeks because my dad does most of that now but I recall them having paper towels at the pump stations. it might be awkward and cumbersome but imagine much easier to dispose, if that is a safe option.

[bold]THE DL IS ALL SET[/bold]

A new study from researchers at the University of Chicago says that a combination of cotton with [bold]silk, chiffon, or flannel[/bold] can create a filter whose performance nears that of the much-talked-about N95.

[bold]Making your own mask? Researchers say some fabrics can filter nearly as well as an N95[/bold]

By Matt Berg, Globe Correspondent, Updated April 30, 2020

"MacGyver would be proud.

Fabric from a cotton sheet combined with material from a prom dress, an old tie, or a pair of pajamas could allow people to make a mask with a filter that’s nearly as good as the N95 mask, according to new research. A new study from researchers at the University of Chicago says that a combination of cotton with silk, chiffon, or flannel can create a filter whose performance nears that of the much-talked-about N95. The researchers and other experts said there’s a big caveat, though. If your mask allows a bunch of leakage around the edges, unlike the tightly fitted N95, your homemade filter will lose its effectiveness.

“We found that many common fabrics can be surprisingly good at filtering particles,” said Supratik Guha, a University of Chicago professor and author of the study, which was published Friday in the journal Nano. Tighter-woven cotton alone was found to be effective, particularly two layers of 600 thread-per-inch cotton. So was a cotton quilt made of two 120 thread-per-inch cotton sheets, with a 0.5-centimeter batting of cotton, polyester and other fibers. Four layers of silk — imagine someone really bundled up in a scarf — also performed well. But the best overall filtration was provided by a sandwich of one layer of the tighter-woven cotton sheet plus two layers of silk, or two layers of chiffon, or one layer of flannel — because of the electrostatic filter created by the non-cotton layers.

“We speculate that the enhanced performance of the hybrids is likely due to the combined effect of mechanical and electrostatic-based filtration,” the study said. “Combining layers to form hybrid masks ... may be an effective approach."

“The benefit of having an electrostatic layer is that it can trap liquid droplets and other particles based on charge rather than the pore size,” said Jill Crittenden, a research scientist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and member of N95 Decon, a group of scientists who review and publish information about N95 mask decontamination.

The big problem is around the edges. “The bad thing about using masks that have really high filtration is that, if there are any gaps in the mask, the air is just going to go through those gaps than through the filter,” Crittenden said. "It’s important to have a mask that has high breathability and high airflow, and that’s not typical of cloth masks.” Mask makers must ensure that a mask is fitted properly, or risk severely affecting the mask’s efficacy, the UChicago researchers said. In some cases, gaps decreased mask efficacy up to 60 percent. “You could have the best fabric material around, but if you’re not planning to minimize those gaps, the effectiveness really drops,” Guha said. “That’s something cloth mask makers need to keep in mind.” That comes as no surprise to many a homemade mask-wearer whose glasses have fogged up because of leakage when they breathe.

In the weeks since the pandemic unfolded, many people have been scrambling for ways to craft masks at home. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommended wearing masks in public but officials have discouraged people from buying N95 masks needed by health care workers and first responders. The Boston Globe posted a video on Instagram on how to make a facial covering using just two hair ties and a piece of cloth. The Washington Post and New York Times are also among the many outlets that have posted articles and videos detailing the mask-making process."

Because we don't have enough masks here in Norway. There isn't a mask order anyway like it is in the US.

".. silk, chiffon or flannel..."

Garbage article, don't trust 'em.. Chiffon and flannel are weaves; silk is a fabrication.

NYC is giving masks away for free...they will be distributed in poorer neighborhoods and parks etc...

But chiffon wrinkles.

Well I’m all set.