Famous people who (probably) got away with murder

Can't think of any.

Kirk Douglas

Robert Blake

claus van bulow

Robert Wagner

Carole Baskin

Andrew Crispo

Tom Cruise

Matthew Broderick

George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush, Jeb Bush

Prescott Bush also

Willard Mitt Romney, Zodiac killer (remember when he refused to provide handwriting samples?)

Frédéric Prinz von Anhalt

Laura Bush

"Tot-Mom" (aka Casey Anthony)

Teddy Kennedy

I still remember people clapping and celebrating OJ not being found guilty. It was one big what the fuck moment

r17 I was reading about the case recently and holy fuck. I didn't realize to what extent he brutalized Nicole during their marriage. (I was 11 or so during the trial and only remember things like the glove and the Bronco chase.)

It was heinous.

Paul Lynde (likely pushed a hustler off a hotel fire escape)

Stavros Niarchos, Sr. (likely murdered his wife Tina on his yacht)

T. Cullen Davis (Texas oil millionaire who likely killed his stepdaughter)

Robert Durst (pharmaceutical heir who almost certainly killed three people in different states)

Marjorie Congdon Caldwell (Minnesota mining heiress who likely had her husband murder her mother, but was never prosecuted for her connection because he clammed up during his trial and afterwards in prison--she was later an arsonist in Arizona)

Fatty Arbuckle AND his doppelgänger Donald J Trump.

It isn't really murder unless you intended to do it. Otherwise it's just a silly little accident.

What R21 said

Even though Michael Alig did serve some time, In my opinion it wasn't enough.

Bette Davis

Louis Althusser

Arlene Francis

Double killing for Matthew Broderick

Yet Betty Broderick rots in prison

William Burroughs.

Rebecca Gayheart

Courtney Love

1940s actress Helen Walker.

Caitlyn Jenner

Infamous? Casey Anthony and Jeffrey Epstein

Olivia Colman

Libby Holman

Claudine Longet (30 days in jail was a slap on the wrist)

Star 1930s choreographer and director Busby Berkeley. TWO people killed by him.

Jackie Coogan

Venus Williams

Doris Duke and Lana Turner (though it was likely self-defense)

R38: Venus Williams had a car accidente, that's not a murder by any means

The infamous dumbbell incident shouldn't count against Arlene Francis. She and her family were away on vacation when it happened. It was a housecleaner who actually did it -Francis, as the homeowner, took financial liability, but she was not involved in the incident at all.

As for the car accident which killed a passenger in another car -Arlene's car was struck by another car, and the impact spun her car across the center divide and into the car where a passenger was killed.

Accidents, not murder.

Lizzie Borden

Clark Gable allegedly killed a guy in a car accident and MGM covered it up.

I grew up in Ft. Worth and remember T. Cullen Davis and the trial for his step daughter’s murder. He was never even tried for the attempted murder of Priscilla, or the murder of her boyfriend. By the time I was 11 years old, my parents taught me that if you’re rich, you can get away with it.

My best friend’s brother used to attend Priscilla’s parties, after she separated from Cullen and before the murders. When my mom took me to the orthodontist, we used to drive by the mansion and go, oohhh, that’s where it all happened.

r44 I remember watching that case on some crime show. It infuriated me.

Frances Bavier

Travolta. He didn't take his special needs son to an actual doctor because of Scientology.

R46

I hadn’t heard that Frances Bavier killed someone, but it doesn’t surprise me. She used to get so angry with Andy Griffith that she would deliberately piss herself on set.

Andy!!!!

Someone who is very witty somehow slipped this into the Arlene Francis entry on wikipedia:

[quote] On May 26, 1963, Francis was involved in a serious car accident while driving alone [bold]from a legitimate stage[/bold] on Long Island to the Manhattan studio where she was expected for a live telecast of What's My Line? The force from a car that struck her car caused her to skid on the wet surface of the Northern State Parkway, jump the highway's concrete divider and collide with a car containing five passengers, one of whom was killed. Francis suffered a broken collarbone, a concussion and many cuts and bruises.

[quote]She used to get so angry with Andy Griffith that she would deliberately piss herself on set.

Amateur.

Doris Duke, bitches.

Robert Blake

Wow R44, I grew up in Dallas too (late 70's/all of the 80's) and remember hearing about the T. Cullen Davis case from time to time when people would point out the property on Mockingbird, but I was too young to pay attention to the case history. Until now!

Just fell down a rabbit hole of online info about it. What a twisted case, and so typical. A damn shame.

If there's any silver lining of justice its that Davis' legacy seems to be the murders and subsequent cases alone, not his business ventures or oil-rich family name. Such and Texas story.

R53 Me too. This looks interesting:

Cullen Davis is still around

Tony Blair.

Probably several NFL coaches and players have gotten away with the murder of whores and such.

Somebody beat me to it but I still want to say, "That bitch, Carole Baskin".

[quote]Probably several NFL coaches and players have gotten away with the murder of whores and such.

Oh, I agree. The Ray Lewis incident gave me that vibe.

I also bet that NCAA football coaches and programs have managed to cover up murders and other crimes. There are rumors that Urban Meyer at University of Florida had a lot more crimes covered up than the reported Aaron Hernandez stuff.

Wasn't there a rumour or blind item that Marvin Gaye of all people was secret serial killer?

R60 I think that was on CDAN.

R53 Davis and his enablers are despicable. This case reminds me so much of the film Chinatown.

Brandy Norwood

Did you know Andrew Crispo, R7?

R40 Someone in the other vehicle died and she settled the case.

I wouldn't be surprised if Bill Cosby was responsible for at least one death. Like, maybe a drugging of a woman ended up fatal and he got rid of the body.

Lady Kevin Spacey

re Cullen case: Forget it Jake, it's Texas (where if you're a rich white male you get away with anything and laws, like taxes, are for the little people)

I grew up in Houston in the same period as r53 and r44 and remember my parents talking about the Davis murder then. I was too young to know the details. It must have really grabbed the attention of Texas at the time.

Roy Bryant, who murdered Emmitt Till in 1955 in money Mississippi because his evil miserable bitch wife Carolyn Bryant didn't like working at the family store LIED, on a young 14 year old black boy.

And got away with it. Fucked up.

Oprah and Gayle!

That Tiger King bitch.

I never believed for a minute that OJ killed those two crackers. He was set up. I am glad he was found not guilty.

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences members who voted Crash for best picture.

I truly hope r73 is trying to be "funny"

Grace Kelly

What motive did the police have in framing a retired football player/bad supporting actor? His biggest acting role was an extended cameo with little-to-no dialogue in the Naked Gun movies. Those were rage killings, not the work of a drug cartel. Watch if you dare:

R75 Most people who weren't white felt the same way and still do today.

Fadi Fawaz

Claus von Bulow

The Nicole/Ron murders were CLASSIC domestic violence killings.

I guess one upside was that states started taking domestic violence more seriously as a result.

William Shatner

Paul Lynde and that twink who fell out of a window

OJ was set up because the public is weighted to think all black men are evil and a black man with a shiny white assed woman! Yikes. The nerve of that sassy Negro. Racism is the same reason MJ had his events with the Cali cops. He was innocent too. He was a stupid idiot who dyed himself white, had severe PTSD, and had the emotional mentality of a 6 year old. He was a perfect target for the charlatans.

Tom Neal - convicted of manslaughter but probably guilty of 1st degree murder

Dog the Bounty Hunter

[quote]Travolta. He didn't take his special needs son to an actual doctor because of Scientology.

I agree with this.

I bet Tom Cruise and other Scieno celebs know about the crimes of David Miscaviage or they've committed crimes covered up by COS.

Three men who had accused Spacey of sexual misconduct "committed suicide" within a short period of time.

Bruce?Caitlyn Jenner/ Brandy.

Charlize Theron's mother, unless it was a Lana Turner situation in reverse....

OJ was a well-known rageaholic who get even more out of control angry when drunk and on drugs. Terrible rep in Hollywood at the time for being extremely verbally abusive and a total misogynist.

Met him and his then petite young blond of the night at a Hollywood party. Foul mouthed, swinging his fists in the air with very intimidating, overbearing body language if ever even politely questioned. I could go on and on. . .

Johnny Deep

Ted Kennedy owns this thread.

Ted Kennedy owns this thread.

Dick Cheney

R91 you just described most white men in America. Or anywhere in the world for that matter. They are the most arrogant entitled people on the face of the earth, and they get away with everything every time.

Charlie Sheen

George Clooney

Robert Blake

Hitler

[quote] Libby Holman

No one will ever know what really happened that night at Reynolda House. It's just as likely that the chronically depressed Smith Reynolds shot himself after walking in on his best friend/lover Ab Walker fucking his wife Libby Holman as any other scenario.

Superfly Jimmy Snuka. Killed his girlfriend and WWF paid off the police so he wasn't charged at the time. He was eventually charged 30 years later after it got media attention but by that point he was so old and broken down he was deemed unfit to stand trial so he got away with it.

JFC, r84. I hope you're a troll.

Matthew Broderick and Laura Bush

No one who watched the Emmy award winning documentary on ESPN re: the murders of Ron Goldman & Nicole Brown = can claim that OJ was NOT the murderer.

THE EVIDENCE IS OVERWHELMING

Ron Furhman = Was a racist. Yes that’s a fact. And he found the glove. And with those simple facts, OJ’s sleazy team of lawyers were able to twist the thinking of the jury. However all of the evidence speaks for itself and OJ is guilty as sin.

R103 You will never convince anyone who believes in the truth.

r38 r65 The police said that Venus Williams was not responsible for the crash. But don't let the facts get in your way.

I don't really think vehicular manslaughter = murder anyway

Robert Wagner

Joe Scarborough?

Disclaimer: I’ve heard both sides and can’t decide.

Jerry Lee Lewis killed at least one wife, probably two.

Re: Venus, the man didn't actually die in the crash, he died later. You can see the footage of the accident from the traffic camera, not to play the blame game but he really SLAMS into her as she is stuck at the roundabout behind other cars. If you watch it there is no doubt who was 'at fault' - as tragic as the end result was.

Elderly people need to exercise more caution on the road as their reflexes are not as quick. My father just handed in his license and i think it's for the best.

To answer the OP: P Diddy.

Mrs. Alfred Steele

Wrestler Jimmy Snuka (now dead himself). Many people believe he killed his on-the-road girlfriend.

There was an episode of the Vice TV series "Dark Side of the Ring" dedicated to the story. It's a good show overall, even if you aren't a wrestling fan. The two part Chris Beniot episode was especially sad. He killed his wife, young son and then himself.

bbbbb

If the alleged rumors about .George .C are true, it is quite disturbing. Appalling that he got away with it too.

Courtney Love

"I don't really think vehicular manslaughter = murder anyway "

It's second-degree murder if you were driving drunk, as Busby Berkeley was in the 1930s. He killed three people while driving hammered, and never did a day in jail because the LA justice system has been corrupt for a long, long, time.

Berkeley was reportedly "haunted" by the tragedy and slowly drank himself to death afterwards, which shows he had more of a conscience than most of the people mentioned on this thread.

Oops, I was going to note that distinction when I posted r116

Erich von Stroheim

Oh yeah... in 1928, a spectacular version of "Noah's Ark" was made, and the flooding effects were so real that three extras were killed. Director Michael Curtiz and studio head Darryl Zanuck were never troubled by the authorities, as far as I've been able to discover. Both continued to thrive for decades.

Oh yeah... in 1928, a spectacular version of "Noah's Ark" was made, and the flooding effects were so real that three extras were killed. Director Michael Curtiz and studio head Darryl Zanuck were never troubled by the authorities, as far as I've been able to discover. Both continued to thrive for decades.

Philip Mountbatten

Dupont heiress lisa dean moseley. She supposedly had her husband take care of a hit by having him to hire some sleazy characters in Las Vegas, to murder the wife/girlfriend of her son that she wanted to get rid of.

$15K cash money took care if the whole thing. Dommink Dunn covered the whole thing on his show. The whole thing was sleazy and fascinating. Even Vanity Fair did a huge write up on this story.

It's called, "murder in cold blue blood" I believe. Check it out if you can.

What a shitshow.

This may be unpopular, but I think Andrea Yates's husband shared some responsibility for their children's deaths. He knew his wife was seriously mentally ill and overwhelmed and yet he kept getting her pregnant. I think he was probably mentally abusive too. I remember seeing him in interviews and he seemed like a cold motherfucker.

Vladimir Putin

George Zimmerman

R123 A lot of people did bash Rusty Yates for ignoring Andrea's mental illness issues. I never liked him based on how phony and off he seemed in interviews.

William Randolph Hearst and the murder of director Thomas Ince aboard Hearst’s yacht.

Wasn't a movie made about that case, R127?

A friend and I were just talking the other day about how if today's tech had been around back then, OJ Simpson wouldn't have had a chance in hell of getting away with it.

R129 I've thought about that too with all the traffic cameras and private residences with security cams. An abuse victim like Nicole would have probably been encouraged to have cameras installed. In one of the many OJ threads here, someone here did wonder why Nicole chose to live in a condo that was somewhat secluded and not in a condo building with a doorman.

Howard Hughes

John Huston

Keith Moon

Snoop Dogg

The Cat’s Meow r128

[quote] In one of the many OJ threads here, someone here did wonder why Nicole chose to live in a condo that was somewhat secluded and not in a condo building with a doorman.

No shit, right? I've always wondered that, too. You have a violent, stalking ex and you choose to live in such a secluded place. I would've gone straight to a high-rise with security.

Also, remember that Jill Shively woman and the other guy who OJ almost ran into at the intersection on his way back from the murders. Today, Shively and the other guy would've been Tweeting from their cars that OJ Simpson almost crashed into them, before anyone knew about two people being murdered. No way that would be able to be kept out of court like it was back then.

Traffic cameras, security cameras that face the street at home and businesses, OJ's Bronco would've been caught on multiple cameras going to and from the crime scene. He would be so fucked if it all happened today, no doubt about his guilt.

I was paid multiple times by different "jury consultants" when I lived in Hollywood. They are hired to figure out which jurors are most likely to find a defendant innocent.

For example one of the questions for the OJ jurors was would you let your young daughter date and marry a Black man without reservation? At the time that viewpoint was not widely held by those who didn't have a college education.

Furthermore jurors were told the trial might last for months. Location was not in the best part of Los Angeles. Think of the background of jurors who would be OK with being isolated from their families for a long period of time. Highlight of their temporary quarantine, restriction from all news, was a trip to Walmart.

Did Nicole Simpon's condo have a little yard or somewhere that the kids could have played? If so, maybe that played into why she didn't want to live in a high rise.

I often think about the Manson Murders and the Cielo drive house. That area was remote by LA standards and I've wondered if the Manson girls kept their mouths shut they could've gotten away with the murders.

r135 it's very likely. Imagine if that crime had never been solved!

Why vehicular manslaughter is not even a crime!

R114 I believe George C. is a murderer too. So he "chased" a naked 16-year-old off a cliff? Or did he give him a push to make sure he never spoke about whatever George, and possibly his friend, did to him. And why is there almost zero discussion about the circumstances of this "accidental" death on the internet? Could it be that George is a billionaire and therefore gets to wipe away all suspicions. I believe George got a lifetime achievement award subsequent to this event. It's sickening. This needs to be brought to light. Please share whatever you know.

You forgot about me and my college roommate?

Wallace Beery is said to have been one of three men who beat comic Ted Healy in a fist fight at the Trocadero nightclub in Hollywood the night before he died. Acute alcoholism was what was written on his death certificate, even though he had been seemingly well and working full time up until that point.

I first read the alleged rumor about Jorge C. in the DM Comments section around the time the whole wedding campaign went into full gear. I later read same thing on several old DL threads but what really caught my attention was when I read about it on non-celebrity focused forums, one was a Travel Forum and another a Cooking Forum.

His Mr. Super Nice Guy image (sociopath?) along with tons of money to hire people to wipe the trail clean sure did make it easy for him to walk away unscathed. By simply bearding up and giving endless interviews declaring his love, recounting the minutiae of their "relationship" ad nauseam accompanied by constant photo ops with the clinging vine "wife" and of course the petri dish babies, he's gotten away with it. Incredible. I hope karma catches up with him with a vengeance.

Allegedly.

James Caan.

Just researched Jorge C. and found this. What a coincidence. Another person with dirt on him is dead. Every time I see his picture now, I see evil. No wonder his old friends, like Brad, ditched him. It may take time, as it did with Epstein, but I believe the truth will find a way to come out.

Yoko Ono - she murdered at least a million sets of eardrums.

Hillary Clinton both literally and figuratively

You all are sure obsessed with that OJ Simpson scandal.

And yet white people kill people all the time it seems, and get away with it and yet no cares about those murders. But are beside yourself about something that happened decades ago.

White people are the biggest hypocrites history has ever known. That goal post is always getting moved.

manslaughter isn't exactly murder

r146 it was the most famous murder trial in American history, and went far beyond two people being murdered. Of course people are going to talk about it.

Robert Wagner Mr. Feathers

I believe Charlize did it R90 and her mother covered it up to protect her. It sounds like he deserved it but then Charlize always comes across as a mean, cold-hearted bitch.

Drunk Driving can be considered Murder 1 since you made the decision to drive drunk it can be considered pre-meditated.

Did anyone say, Klaus Von Bulow?

R150 - So there's no evidence that she did it, but you choose to believe she did despite no evidence, just because you dislike her. Wasn't the killing in self-defense, anyway?

Burt Reynolds

R148 The OJ Simpson case isn't the only famous murder case in American history. Every decade had a famous case pretty much. The only reason white people care so much about this one is because it involved two attractive white people and a black man who may or may not have murdered them.

If OJ did murder them, he didn't get away with it. He went to prison in Nevada while you have white people who never seem to suffer consequences for anything they do wrong.

So please stop whining about OJ Simpson. White people get away with shit every day asshole.

I don't dislike her R152, I quite admire her. And yes it was ruled self-defense.

r154 again it's the most famous murder trial in American history and captured the nation's attention for well over a year. And guilty-as-hell OJ got off. In a thread titled "Famous people who (probably) got away with murder" it's going to be talked about.

And as was said above, if today's tech had been around back then, OJ wouldn't have had a prayer of getting off.

Calling her a mean, cold-hearted bitch means you admire her?

"So please stop whining about OJ Simpson."

No. I will not stop whining about that, until the rich and famous can no longer get away with crimes.

And that's what the resentment is mostly about, someone who was wealthy enough to afford the best attorneys and publicists getting away with murder, like Oscar Pistorius and Doris Duke. And that "affluenza" kid.

Eric Forman and Mr. Bonkers: death by 1969 Vista Cruiser.

R159 It happened around 1977, so the statute of limitation for cat murders has probably lapsed.

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William Randolph Hearst

William Shatner

R158 No, you mean the white wealthy and well connected. Because those are the ones who tend to get away with murder in America. Even poor white people have gotten away with murder in America for to long.

Look at those two Crackers in south Georgia who killed that 25 year old black man. Still no arrests yet. And their not even famous. And don't forget about the people who lynched Emmitt Till in 1955 Mississippi. They were poor white people and got away with murdering an innocent black child, no consequences no prison time no death penalty no nothing. They got away completely free after brutally murdering an innocent child, because he was black in the south.

But no one ever wants to talk about those murders that took place during the Jim Crow era of America. It's not something that can be defended that's why. Even the murders white people commit against black people today are indefensible, so white society remains silent.

When it comes to racial murders, white America has everyone else beat. White people are the absolute worst historically speaking.

[quote]But no one ever wants to talk about those murders that took place during the Jim Crow era of America.

What planet do you fucking live on? It's still talked about all the time, and recognized for the atrocity that it was.

R164 I hear what you're saying, but for you own mental health, you need to realize that the vast majority of white people (hundreds of millions of people) are horrified and outraged by the murder of that 25-year-old black man in Georgia and many other similar cases. I know you're angry. I'm angry too about the level of injustice and inhumanity in our country, but it isn't constructive to blame people who agree with you, even if they happen to be white.

Whoever put in motion the end to Jeff Epstein was likely famous...either celebrity or political or both...perhaps Miss Maxwell is about to meet with her maker via associates of same famous person...

Let me think...

At least the last 14 US Presidents and probably all of them.

Weren't there rumors of Kirk Douglas being associated with the murder of an actress in the 1940s?

Gary Busey

r78, no everyone but a slim amount of people believe he is guilty. People were just happy he got off because it was soon after Rodney King. The Black community wanted to see someone black get off since they felt white people always get off.

R19 Do a little research on the Paul Lynde comment...jeez.

fatty arbuckle was totally innocent.

The driver of the car in which Isadora Duncan was a passenger.

The OJ case is outrageous because of the defense he came up with. He was caught red handed (literally!) and blamed it all on "the man".

r174 = the ghost of Fatty Arbuckle

who better to know, R177?

Who knows what the upper echelon of the $ci in tall ogists have gotten away with. So many alleged rumors of child labor, people being held against their will, blackmail and MISSING people.

Wonder if the hands of their most popular actor/member are dirty in any of this?

R92 You meant Amber Heard ! Depp is innocent !!!

Erdogan the fucking islamist nationalist genocider

The leaders of every country that bans homosexuality.

Moses "Bud" Stiltz

Shot & killed Carl Switzer (Alfalfa)

Crazy Jerry Lee Lewis probably murdered his 4th wife. He had seven wives. He tells people he thinks he's going to hell. He may be on to something there.

"There was one legal nicety: The body was there in DeSoto County, and Charlie Ward’s radio call had failed to raise the coroner. Sowell arranged for a justice of the peace, Whitley Perryman, to fill in. Of course, Justice Perryman knew the house. He’d signed out plenty of papers for that address on Malone Road. Justice Perryman went up to Jerry Lee’s for the signatures; the Killer never had to go to the judge. Even when Jerry Lee faced charges of assault and possession of a deadly weapon, Jerry Lee just forfeited bond, and Perryman considered the matter closed."

Hitler. He was allowed to swallow his own bullet instead of facing judgment.

Ron Goldman and Nicole Simpson were viciously butchered to death. We would not allow such a thing to happen to a pig or cow even. But Johnny Cochran literally asked the jury to overlook the evidence in this case and do a favor for a good Black cause. It is termed jury nullification for a reason.

Sadly, whatever "message" to white peoples that this was to be conveyed resulted in the opposite-a backlash instead. Repeat: No massage was successfully sent. I was a bit surprised that Obama got elected after that. The only ideation people may have generated was the justification of White on Black crime. This was an all around tragedy for everyone.

Watching the recent 48 Hours on Lizzie Borden.

She was guilty as sin

[quote] I still remember people clapping and celebrating OJ not being found guilty. It was one big what the fuck moment

As with Cosby and Michael Jackson, some people can't believe their heroes could be human or fail.

Caitlyn Jenner.

The Queen Of England

R188, the weirdest thing about MJ's fans is that they don't even think there was anything weird AT ALL about him sleeping with random kids in the same bed and moving from one child to the next. And that's something that we know! It's not up for the slightest bit of debate. They don't feel there was anything wrong about him hanging out with children all the time! It's all "poor poor Michael, he was abused and he didn't have a childhood!". These people are beyond delusional.

Britney Spears and Max Martin. Combined, they both ruined music in the late 90s and it never recovered.

“It’s racist to think OJ got off easy” is not an argument I thought I’d see. Brain dead.

I had not heard of the GC thing and can only find one blind item about it.

What is the GC thing r193?

Referenced upthread about a 16yo falling off a cliff at his house.

Why Kirk Douglas?

R196, Why not?

Doris Duke. She ran over her interior designer.

The 16 year old boy in the GC incident didn't die, he is however permanently disabled. He's in his early 20s now.

I believed, at the time of the brutal slayings of Nicole & Ron (by OJ), that it was a "crime of passion" and jealousy. That OJ had caught Nicole with her new lover, the handsome ex-model Ron Goldman. That's how the media spun the story for it be neatly packaged and more cohesive of a story line.

However, they were NOT lovers! They didn't even know each other. Nicole forgot her glasses at a restaurant table where Ron was one of the servers. Since Nicole was a frequent patron of the bistro, which was close by, the manager asked Ron to drop them off at her condo on his drive home.

What a HORRIFIC episode of bad luck for doing a kind gesture

Can't imagine how guilty the Restaurant manager felt !

I never knew that r200

What a tragic case

Joe Scarborough?

Margaret Beaufort.

George W Bush, Dick Cheney, Colin Powell, Condi Rice…responsible for the deaths of many in an unnecessary war.

Hilary Clinton, if you believe the rumors about Vince Foster

Frank Sinatra likely had a Nevada cop murdered by the mob after an altercation over a woman (the cop's wife). The cop had knocked Sinatra down in front of his employees and humiliated him.

OJ is a monster. Blacks that defend him because he’s also black are similarly monstrous.

Lots of people get away with murder. Look at the unsolved rate. If the cops don’t have a suspect in 48hrs, it goes cold. And they aren’t all stranger murders; in this country anyone can be killed.

R186 Cochran’s job was to advocate for his client. It’s not his fault that Marcia Clark & Chris Darden were incompetent prosecutors.

R42, Lizzie Borden wasn't a famous person who got away with murder.

She BECAME famous (infamous).

R208, Don't get me started! Clark was beyond incompetent, starting with her arrogant dismissal of the prosecution's jury expert's advice against having so many Black women jurors.

Clark thought they, as women, would be sympathetic towards Nicole.

The jury expert moved to the defense side.

R204, Your mention of Hillary Clinton is beneath both contempt and sanity.

Clinton-hater Extraordinaire Ken Starr investigated the Foster case for 3 YEARS (this Independent Counsel appointment was AFTER other investigations) and could conclude, as did all prior investigations, only that the finding of suicide was accurate.

"The available evidence points clearly to suicide as the manner of death." Paragraph 3, Final Section of the Starr Report.

R200 and r201, No.

Ron volunteered to return Nicole's sunglasses.

And one would have difficulty proving the two weren't lovers, as Nicole had her bath drawn and candles lit at the time of her death.

But just as no-one will ever "find" the hippies that murdered the family of Jeffrey MacDonald, so, too, the "real killers" of Nicole and Ron.

Except we have.

R200, They were her mother's glasses, left behind after a family dinner that evening. Nicole and Ron DID know each other, albeit casually. Nicole was allegedly expecting someone that evening, for she had drawn a bath and lit multiple candles, something friends said she would never do just for herself.

R212, Neighbors told investigators that they had seen Ron driving Nicole's car around Brentwood, so they definitely were acquainted.

R213, See r212.

R212, See R213.

Andrew Prine

[quote] OJ is a monster. Blacks that defend him because he’s also black are similarly monstrous.

Same w Cos

Claudine Longet

Bull Shit [r212]!!

Apparently you have not watched the ESPN documentary or you'd know that what you are claiming (suggesting that Ron & Nicole were sleeping together & knew each other) was spin planted by OJs defense team.

Clearly, u are an OJ sympathizer

Until u watch the award winning documentary, keep on quiet on this subject.

R220, You are so off-base regarding me, r212. I full well know that OJ is a sociopathic double murderer. The size 12 Bruno Magli shoe prints, the blood spattrrs and DNA; the glove outside Kato's room; the rejected Jill Shively witnessing of his speeding; the tardiness to his limo; his prior beatings of Nicole; his recentl-acquired knowledge of killing by knife; and his jealousy.

I don't need a visual media source; I have read every book on the case (I tend to do that with famous murders; e.g , Tate-LaBianca; Jon-Benet; Capt. Jeffrey Macdonald; even Diana, as speculation). I think the best is Bugliosi's, for he shows the fatal failures of Marcia Clarke's prosecution tactics.

Othello and Desdemona, without the need for an Iago.

R123 you are correct about Andrea Yates. She was psychotic for some time and her religious nutter husband refused to take her to a doctor.

I have spoken with the forensic psychiatrist who evaluated her shortly after the murders and he said she was so psychotic her speech was incomprehensible. He and her defense team did good work - making sure she was sent to a psych facility not prison.

Sadly as Andrea was treated for the psychosis, she became severely depressed and suicidal as she was well enough to realize what she had done.

R222 Yes, this woman was and is very sick. Another woman just butchered her 2 kids in Phoenix.

OJ's verdict was due to fame, money, and post-Rodney King race relations. That jury wouldn't have convicted him if they had a video of the murders. I guess his prison is living every day in exile as a toxic outcast. I can't believe Nicole's kids turned out so ugly, the boy is nearly bald and the girl is HUGE.