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"Star Trek: Enterprise": why did it flop?

Of all the ST franchise series before the two CBS Go series, it seems to be the least loved. It only lasted four seasons (fewer than TNG, DS9, or VOY), and almost none of the characters are fan favorites. Yet even so, it had hunky men parading around regularly in sexy blue underwear; and by the last season, it was terrific, with the founding of the Federation, the Augments storyline (which saw the return of Brent Spiner as Dr. Noonien Soong's ancestor and the eugenically enhanced evil supermen from "Space Seed" and "ST2: The Wrath of Khan"), and really cool Andorians with prehensile antennae.

Why did it take so long for it to be good? Why were the Enterprise characters all so dull? Why did they waste time with storylines no one cared about at all with the Suliban (who were so obviously supposed to be the Taliban), the temporal Cold War, and the Xindi? And why was it canceled when it finally improved dramatically?

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by Anonymousreply 22April 25, 2020 6:19 PM

I actually really liked the series, and have watched it through about four times.

by Anonymousreply 1April 25, 2020 4:32 AM

I just remember being SO turned off by the theme song.

by Anonymousreply 2April 25, 2020 4:33 AM

R2 That is the one aspect of the show I hate, and the finale.

by Anonymousreply 3April 25, 2020 4:35 AM

bad writing for the first 3 years -- It didn't really match the established star trek timeline. The tech was too modern when you think about the original series. It made it feel like that TOS they regressed on tech.

by Anonymousreply 4April 25, 2020 4:43 AM

The theme song was the WORST. And the finale was awful. The first three seasons were dull, with only a handful of stand outs. But yeah, season four was great. The T'Pol and Trip relationship was really moving. I was so disappointed it got cancelled right as it was finally working so well. Damn sexy cast. Connor and Scott Bakula. Sexy as hell.

by Anonymousreply 5April 25, 2020 4:50 AM

The Diane Warren theme song was awful--unmemorable and preachy simultaneously.

What always stunned me was how uninteresting the central characters were. Archer had nothing about him to make him interesting, and was saved from complete dullness by the fact that he was played by a competent actor. T'Pol was okay, and at least Trip was temperamental, but the other four recurring crew members--Reed, Mayweather, Soto, and Dr. Phlox--were completely bland and were without personalities, and the actors who played them were completely unmemorable.

by Anonymousreply 6April 25, 2020 4:52 AM

My favorite out if all of them. It lasted 4 season because station that carried it, UPN, folded.

by Anonymousreply 7April 25, 2020 4:52 AM

The mirror universe opening was better.

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by Anonymousreply 8April 25, 2020 4:56 AM

I've been a Trekkie pretty much all of my life (in my 50s now) and Enterprise was truly the first ST series that I could not get into. Reasons:

The theme song was shit.

I didn't mind the tech. Considering this took place some years before Kirk and company, I thought the tech pretty much fit the time. It made far more sense than that damn Discovery a.k.a. The Michael Burnham Show.

I tried watching several times because I really wanted to give it a chance and like it but it just couldn't grab me.

Aside from that hot Engineer Tripp, I didn't give a damn about any of the character. Oh, and who do they kill off in the series finale? Tripp! They had to know he was the most popular character. That was a shitty thing to do.

I could not STAND the Vulcan first officer who's name escapes me. That outfit. WTF! When did Vulcan females dress like that. That bitch made Voyager's Seven of Nine look decent.

My main dislike - FUCK PREQUELS!

by Anonymousreply 9April 25, 2020 4:58 AM

(R8) TRUE! I was just thinking that.

by Anonymousreply 10April 25, 2020 5:00 AM

Wish some network would rebroadcast it, (BBC America reruns Next Generation AND Deep Space Nine after all.) I enjoyed it for the first couple of seasons, even with the Xindi and the Temporal Cold War, but I have no recall of the last season except a vague memory of the finals (think it featured Riker and Troi on the holodeck talking about the history of the Enterprise). Loved all of the hot guys on the show. Supposedly it was to feature the first gay main character of any Star Trek franchise but the network demanded any character be dropped.

by Anonymousreply 11April 25, 2020 5:04 AM

[quote] Wish some network would rebroadcast it, (BBC America reruns Next Generation AND Deep Space Nine after all.)

I believe they show the original series, TNG, DS9 and Enterprise, or is it some other channel that has that lineup?

by Anonymousreply 12April 25, 2020 5:09 AM

I wonder if part of the problem were the egos of Rick Berman and Brannon Braga. They had pretty full run of the franchise at that time, and so could do pretty much whatever they wanted. Berman, in particular, pretty much ran the show after gene Roddenberry left (and then died), and it seems from everything I've read like he always really wanted to introduce his own dull alien races than return to the more inte

berman was resting and established ones Roddenberry had established throughout the history of the franchise. When he brought back the Andorians to enterprise, that was a great move, and then by the last season they also brought back the Tellarites and the Orions. But by then the series was over.

Was Berman the producer who was so resistant to introducing a gay character? I remember that originally Roddenberry wanted gay characters on TNG but one of the producers was homophobic.

by Anonymousreply 13April 25, 2020 5:10 AM

[quote] Aside from that hot Engineer Tripp

I thought he had a very nice body, but he suffered from premature old-man face. I much preferred Reed.

by Anonymousreply 14April 25, 2020 5:10 AM

All the episodes of TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT are available currently on Netflix.

by Anonymousreply 15April 25, 2020 5:11 AM

Sorry about the fucked up 3rd sentence in my post --it was supposed to read "Berman, in particular, pretty much ran the show after gene Roddenberry left (and then died), and it seems from everything I've read like he always really wanted to introduce his own dull alien races than return to the more interesting and established ones Roddenberry had established throughout the history of the franchise."

by Anonymousreply 16April 25, 2020 5:13 AM

R14 Let's not forget Scott Bakula, who is still fucking hot even though he is now 65.

by Anonymousreply 17April 25, 2020 5:14 AM

All the Treks are broadcast on Heros and Icons, which is also available on cable and OTA.

by Anonymousreply 18April 25, 2020 5:16 AM

It was slow and plodding.

by Anonymousreply 19April 25, 2020 5:39 AM

Enterprise did have one outstanding episode, "Cold Creek." It was the one where T'Pol tells the story of her great-grandmother and two other Vulcans crash-landing on Earth in the 1950s and having to pretend to be human and live among humans for many months, until a rescue ship can come and get them. That one really was excellent.

by Anonymousreply 20April 25, 2020 5:43 AM

Bakulala's over-acting and self-importance damaged the series. At least now on his NCIS show, he's watered down by a better ensemble, but as executive producer, he keeps himself front and center of boring storylines vaunting his endless supply of sainthood and self-importance to weigh down plots. He must be hell for the writers to deal with?

Why do I keep watching? Sebastian is kind of my ideal.

by Anonymousreply 21April 25, 2020 5:44 AM

R20 I do love that episode, especially how they mentioned I Love Lucy, since without it launching Desilu we might never have gotten Star Trek.

by Anonymousreply 22April 25, 2020 6:19 PM
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