Coronavirus Freakout 37 - The Plague

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You misspelled PROSTATUTE, OP.

Prostitution Whore!

I’m becoming more interested in this blood clotting sequela because I think it really may be the linchpin in the whole disease process.

I saw the report about the blood clot on abc news a couple of nights ago.

Every single musician in the world is officially unemployed so fuck all of you.

I have many friends who are unemployed, mostly in retail and hospitality...

i don't think jobs are coming back.

Does anyone see bars coming back in the next 3 months? I’m thinking outdoor bars could work. Space and fresh air circulating. But wearing a mask and drinking and talking are kinda impossible.

I think the bloodletting community is owed an apology.

I don't think many bars will even re-open. They had no biz for months and can't afford rent. yes, sure they can't be evicted for 3 months but you still owe rent after 3months..how are they even gonna pay and I doubt many can survive. I don't think many even got the $ from the stimulus meant for small biz. the big chains got the $.

All of those people on the poll are fucked. Hoes and others with no back up are now employed in supermarkets, who can't get enough staff.

The whole millennial/Gen Z culture based on being ultra tactile and super sociable has taken a permanent hit. Their age of innocence is over, just as the casual sex of the 1970s enjoyed by Boomers was killed by AIDS. And former extroverts who headed to the bars and pubs after work are now getting a taste for the at home life, and might not go back.

Casino dealers have it as bad as anyone I think. And I can’t imagine when casinos are ever going to reopen.

They're opening right fucking now!

Are you serious r8?

If you are, I suggest you move to Vegas.

'Every single musician in the world is officially unemployed so fuck all of you.'

Some of these hoes are still recording and working on music from home. Harry Styles and Niall Hogran have both set up virtual studios, with writers beamed in via screens.

The Mayor of Las Vegas needs to win a Darwin Award. She offered up the citizens of Las Vegas as a control group because she wants to open up Las Vegas with no tests, no way for casino and restaurant workers to protect themselves or be safe. She wanted to put them out there unprotected, as Guinea pigs to see if they would die! I’ve heard a lot of sociopathic statements from Republican politicians lately but that takes the cake.

She also said it wasn’t her responsibility to figure out how casinos could be made safe, or hairdressers or restaurants. She said, I don’t own a casino, how should I know?

I’ve lived in Las Vegas for years. I don’t pay close attention to her but mostly she makes innocuous comments on twitter about sports teams or casino events. I’ve never heard her say anything remotely like that. Maybe I haven’t been paying close enough attention, but she just normally seems like a booster for the city, not Dr Mengele. This is bizarre.

Anderson Cooper asked her if she was willing to sit in a casino all day and put her life on the line like she was saying casino workers should do. She wouldn’t answer no matter how many times he asked.

Maybe she was drunk. Her husband is an alcoholic supposedly. I can’t imagine what these sociopathic republicans think people think when they hear stuff like that. I’m glad casino workers have the culinary union. If the union tells them not to go in they won’t. And fortunately it seems like casino owners are in no hurry either. Probably don’t want to be sued into oblivion. And they probably know having union picketers in front of their casino isn’t a good look either.

When casinos make money, they make a lot of money. But the recession of 2008 really killed them. And a lot of work here is somehow casino related. They just spent a ton of money on a stadium and now nobody can go to games or is coming to hotels to go to games. It’s a mess. But it’s still better to live than be a guinea pig for Carolyn Goodman.

The next thing you know Republicans will tell people to voluntarily walk into a meat grinder to make Soylent Green, because there’s a food shortage.

Based on all the numbers I can find and crunch, we’re looking at approx. 900,000 deaths in the U.S. by the time it’s over. That’s considering no medicine or vaccine comes through.

If you take the 5 percent number of probable exposures from the L.A. county study, and apply that to the number that has died (43k), then we have have about 850,000 more deaths to go nationally.

The young casino workers will shrug off the virus but God help the older, overweight gamblers.

This virus has elements of intelligent design. Engineered by nature to decrease the world's huge elderly population.

The fatuity rates are below 1% for under 45. So in doing math for deaths, you really need to stratify the population by age. Apply 0.3% to under 45, 5% for 45-65, 15% 65-75 and 40% over 75.

It is a brutal math of the economic existence of under 45s vs the lives of the over 75s. At some point, the risk calculation will shift to somewhere in the middle.

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 22 - 11:00 PM EST

✡️ HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY

🌱 EARTH DAY

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 2,637,790

DEATHS: 184,230

CRITICAL: 56,769

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 848,944

DEATHS: 47,676

CRITICAL: 14,016

😔 GOOD NIGHT, SLEEP TIGHT !

R18, I’ve learned from all this not to go by how unbelievable something sounds, but how the math works. It’s like Sherlock Holmes, “eliminate the impossible. Whatever remains, no matter how improbable, is the truth.” That’s what we have to do now.

All through this I’ve followed my instincts which have served me well, even though my brain kept saying, that will never happen. They won’t close all the schools, they won’t lock down entire cities. There won’t be shortages of toilet paper. My mind is playing tricks on me, I’m being hysterical. But I just kept on prepping the whole time I kept telling myself it was impossible. I didn’t even believe myself there would be food shortages for months on end. But I bought some anyway, because the facts pointed that way. Even though I thought it was impossible.

Here’s what my instincts are telling me now: Winter is going to be bad. More shortages. Price gouging leading to inflation. Broke people doing home invasions and robbing people’s shopping carts in the parking lot. Shitty landlords trying to throw people out even though it’s not legal. Lots of homeless people that were never homeless before.

Get your flu shot as early as you can. They’re probably going to run out of flu shots.

'Here’s what my instincts are telling me now: Winter is going to be bad. More shortages. Price gouging leading to inflation. Broke people doing home invasions and robbing people’s shopping carts in the parking lot. Shitty landlords trying to throw people out even though it’s not legal. Lots of homeless people that were never homeless before.'

I remember you predicting this would happen by Easter, doomsday troll.

[quote]Here’s what my instincts are telling me now

So you're like Trump, then?

We will reach those numbers R18 with Georgia governor Kemp opening up his state to everything this weekend; Mayor Goodman in Vegas will make sure that everything contagious in Vegas leaves Vegas; Florida governor DeSantis wants Disney World to open back up, now! Cooler heads will prevail, but it will be the biggest battle we have ever had on US soil.

You won't reach 900k. Your summers are too hot. Forget it.

r19 not just elderly but resource burdens, too (very fat, unhealthy people, most of whom are that way by choice).

i couldn't believe the mayor of vegas was that stupid. I actually turned the channel coz I just didn't want to waste my time listening to that idiot.

The governor of Nevada is a very reasonable Democrat and the Strip is actually not under the jurisdiction of the mayor. The casino owners aren’t in a hurry to open because every out of towner that dies in their hotel is bad publicity in other states too. And the healthcare system here is understaffed on a good day. It must be really strained now because there’s really no room to spare in it already.

But if the mayor is appealing to Trumpers, she may get some traction.

My Nextdoor feed is full of Trumpers saying Sisolak is the worst mayor ever and he should be run out of town. There’s a very loud mouthed, obnoxious group going on and on about how much they hate him. And nobody is arguing with them because they’re really vile. The old school Nevadans who were born here are a bunch of mean, unfriendly Republicans. Deplorables before the word was invented.

Nevada has only gone blue because of Californian transplants. The Republicans born here hate them and make vile comments about how they’re crazy libruls and ruining everything with their presence. And they’re putting Sisolak in that bunch. So we’re about to see who has more influence.

[quote]You won't reach 900k. Your summers are too hot.

Where in the US does it go above 197 degrees for at least 15 minutes? That's how hot it has to get to kill the virus. So much for that theory.

[quote]probable exposures from the L.A. county study

As in Los Angeles County, where they (along with the rest of California) locked down early? Where the state has competent leadership that has actually planned for this disaster and has the resources to take care of residents?

And you want to compare that with anywhere in the South and/or flyover land where they haven't done jack shit to bend the curve or prepare for the worst, and where they have a healthcare system so fragile that two car accidents within six hours on a Saturday night cause the hospital to go on divert status... if they're lucky enough to have a hospital within a 250-mile radius?

Now, they're all going to rescind the sheltering order, and rejoice! I think they should all go to church.

It's going to be a bloodbath. The first wave won't even crest, and they'll have started a second wave. We'll look back at the 900,000 R18 predicts and wish, if only a few of the idiots governing the stupid people had just held off for another 30 days, we might be looking [italic]at only[/italic] just under a million dead.

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If you look at Las Vegas from the logical point of view only, it’s probably the last city in America that should open. The whole city is based on the idea of people from all over the country and all over the world coming to congregate in one place, then going home all over the world. Sports events, conventions, casinos, hotels, restaurants. All impossible to do now.

How could you even rent a hotel room? Lots of upholstered surfaces that would take days to dry out after the last guest left. They’re uncleanable. You’d have to leave the room vacant for days between guests to decontaminate it. They won’t do that.

Would you want a maid touching surfaces in your room? No. Would you want somebody changing sheets in your room? No. Want to go to the buffet? No. A crowded restaurant? No. Want to go to a convention? No. The Home Show or Christmas or jewelry trade shows crowded with wall to wall people? No. Go to a fight and sit in the crowded audience? No. Go to a stadium with thousands of people and use the same bathroom and buy food served by some person exposed to thousands of people? No.

Sit in a casino with wall to wall people, where people staying in the hotel have no choice but to walk right past you because that’s how every casino is built? No.

And if you do any of these things, you’re taking Coronavirus back to Podunkville.

I don’t see how they open back up at least until there’s treatment of some kind. I don’t think a test is enough, unless every person gets issued a space suit at the border.

So what happens to the workers? Somebody better find out in a hurry, or people will go back where they came from and try to find work there. Which means Nevada could go red again.

We can accept a 15% false-positive/negative rate; we just have to test (and trace) over and over and over again if we're serious about beating COVID-19. And getting just a single negative result does not mean you can ignore social distancing and protection guidelines. Unless you're religious, and then I would suggest getting out now! Go to church! Shake hands with the pastor. Kiss every baby on entrance [italic]and[/italic] and exit. Remember, the homosexual lobby has teamed up with Nancy Pelosi and the librul media to keep you from worshiping the Lord.

Look folks (as Joe would say), Trump done fucked us good. If he'd paid attention in January, we could have contained this before it spread across the nation. If only he hadn't fired the Pandemic Task Force at the NSC, they would have been on top of it when it was only in China. And if he hadn't cut the CDC's budget in 2018, the China field office would have been up and running, working with China's government to contain it in Wuhan, and it would barely merit a mention in the news. You know, the way Obama handled Ebola, SARS, swine flu, Zika...

Spending hawks take note: the paltry $175 million he cut the CDC's budget pales in comparison to the $4.5 TRILLION we're up to, so far...

[quote]The lionhead rabbits who tested positive didn't get sick either.

You and your lion-headed rabbit wife can both go to hell!!!

Well put r33.

Bravo!

[quote] The test was hailed for being able to detect a positive result in just five minutes and a negative result in 13 minuets.

Just having the stamina and lung capacity for that much ballroom dancing would indicate a likely negative test result.

I love a minuet!

I can barely remember the men I fucked!

CNN @CNN · 1m Starting Thursday, coronavirus testing will be available to all critical workers in Los Angeles that are on the front lines -- regardless of whether they have symptoms.

I’m glad we’re done with the whole 36x2 debacle

The blood clotting thing is absolutely terrifying. So I get Corona, I have mild symptoms or no symptoms at all, and I sure as fuck can't get seen or treated at a hospital because of that- so I get to go home and wait until I fall over dead from a stroke?

Doctors warn coronavirus might cause sudden strokes in young adults

New York doctors are warning that the coronavirus may cause sudden strokes in adults in their 30s and 40s who are not severely sick.

The doctors at Mount Sinai Health System believe there is growing evidence that COVID-19 can cause the blood to clot in unusual ways, resulting in an uptick in strokes among patients who don’t typically suffer from them, CNN reported.

“The virus seems to be causing increased clotting in the large arteries, leading to severe stroke,” neurosurgeon Dr. Thomas Oxley told CNN.

Oxley and his colleagues said they typically record fewer than two strokes per month from people under the age of 50, but in a two-week period during the pandemic they treated five. Their findings are to be published in a letter in the New England Journal of Medicine.

“Our report shows a seven-fold increase in incidence of sudden stroke in young patients during the past two weeks. Most of these patients have no past medical history and were at home with either mild symptoms (or in two cases, no symptoms) of Covid,” Oxley said.

“All tested positive. Two of them delayed calling an ambulance,” he went on.

The report could be particularly troubling in New York, where officials have advised against calling 911 unless they come down with severe symptoms, like difficulty breathing, in order to not further overwhelm already inundated EMS.

Some, meanwhile, have been reluctant to visit a hospital in fear that they might catch the virus there.

Oxley said his team urged people to watch themselves for symptoms of coronavirus and to call 911 if they believe they’ve suffered a stroke.

He referred to the mnemonic device to remember warning signs for strokes. FAST: F for face drooping; A for arm weakness; S for speech difficulty and T for time to call 911.

We know, R42. Maybe if you read the previous thread instead of rushing to this one to post, you'd see this was covered in detail hours ago.

R41 Yeah. Or you end up getting your leg amputated.

R34 Wait! Wait! What about lion head rabbits? My precious, free-roaming Lion Head Nederland bunny passed away a few years ago and I have never been the same...

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“21 per cent died.”

Ok. I’m scared now.

Looks like Joel is safe.

[QUOTE] There will be 900k deaths in the US...flyover states have done nothing to bend the curve

Italy has only 25k deaths with a 60m population. Nearly all states have been locked down since mid March. With over 800k cases for a 333m population, there would need to be far more than 47k deaths already to match your prediction.

The virus is natural selection in operation. Obese and elderly or already diseased, gone. Nothing can stop the cull.

R50 And young people having strokes when they were perfectly healthy before...

R51, it's barely touching the under 30s.

r50

What if like other viruses it mutates, becomes more dangerous to younger people. (The Spanish Flu attacked the young.) After a culling the old, the sick and the fat, the mutations that target the vulnerabilities of the young will flourish. It's a virus, it's technically not alive, it finds a host and adjusts to replicate. It does not know or care about the age, well-being or BMI of its victims.

Oh...BTW, the Feds cut back on FDA meet inspections, so those meat plants are touch surfaces for the virus and the meat processed there on. It can live a long time frozen.

'What if like other viruses it mutates, becomes more dangerous to younger people'

Scientists say it has barely mutated. People under 20 have more chance of winning the lottery than dying of covid19.

[quote] Scientists say it has barely mutated. People under 20 have more chance of winning the lottery than dying of covid19.

And yet more have died of COVID than have won the lottery. Go figure.

9/10 viruses mutate and become weaker, as happened with AIDS.

Only 45 people under 20 have died of covid in the US and someone wins the lottery every week of the year. From Washington Post:

The risk appears to rise with every decade of age. The Post found at least 45 deaths among people in their 20s, at least 190 deaths among people in their 30s, and at least 413 deaths among people in their 40s. Out of 47k!

I am a big fan of Dr. Davidson.

Models show that if 80 percent of people wear masks that are 60 percent effective, easily achievable with cloth, we can get to an effective R0 of less than one. That’s enough to halt the spread of the disease. Many countries already have more than 80 percent of their population wearing masks in public, including Hong Kong, where most stores deny entry to unmasked customers, and the more than 30 countries that legally require masks in public spaces, such as Israel, Singapore, and the Czech Republic. Mask use in combination with physical distancing is even more powerful.

Yes. Masks work. Yet here in the U.K. yesterday at the press conference the government said that they still don’t have any scientific proof that masks are of any help. Lol. Unbelievable. I’m seriously like the only one in the supermarket with a mask and gloves on and I live two minutes from Chelsea Westminster hospital where an ambulance is seen heading several times an hour.

CNN's David Gelles quotes German Chancellor Angela Merkel today:

"Nobody likes to hear this but it is the truth. We are not living through the final phase of this crisis, we are still at its beginning. We will still have to live with this virus for a long time.”

R43 OP's been too busy posting 15 or 16 times on his own thread to keep up. He's also the shit stirrer from "April is the Cruelest Month" and " Mistress of Evil " threads.

Can't wait to hear Alicia Keyes' new song at the CNN Town Hall tonight. The clip they keep showing seems like it's really....well, at least she's doing something.

The only masks that offer reliable protection from COVID-19 infection are certified professionally made N95 masks, but you don't have to wear those on the street, only if you're someone working directly with infected people. We can only hope that competent and responsible manufacturers are making tons of these right now so that everybody who works in health care or has to be in continual contact with the general public, like store clerks and other service workers, has lots of these as well as other protective equipment that's either disposable or easily sanitized after every wearing.

The handmade improvised face masks people are wearing on the street don't filter out COVID-19, so they're not a substitute for N95 gear. But they serve the purpose of preventing the wearer from spraying other people when they talk, sneeze or cough, which is all they need to do if you're otherwise observing sensible social distancing.

The group that raised money to test mask materials finally got their website up and running.

Also, on the NY and LA citizens required to wear masks thread, someone else also posted another homemade mask materials link, if anyone is interested.

Here's the other poster's link that I just mentioned.

Trump Downplays The Threat Of Virus Returning | Morning Joe | MSNBC

Joe Scarborough talks about Trump's "gut".

Elizabeth Warren's eldest brother has died of COVID.

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 23 - 11:05 AM EST

💏 NATIONAL LOVERS DAY

🎲 TAKE A CHANCE DAY

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 2,668,889

DEATHS: 186,324

CRITICAL: 58,293

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 851,195

DEATHS: 47,798

CRITICAL: 14,344

😷 HAVE A CORONA FREE DAY !

[R69] That sucks. Any updates on Amy's husband?

For OP, I recommend intense structured therapy via the PTSA Group*

*Premature Threat Starters Association

Amy’s husband recovered in the hospital and is at home. I saw an interview about a week ago. She said he was doing good.

Does the thread title problem happen at the Broadway gossip thread?

Daymond John of Shark Tank approached the State of Florida when the Governor was attempting to buy N95 masks. He offered to obtain one million masks, which sell for an average of $2.00 per mask at a cost of $7.00 per mask.

Doesn't this greedy bastard have enough money? He should be DONATING them to Florida.

I attempted to buy a mask in Edinburgh today at the chemist, not only do they not sell them but there is no intention at all in Britain of selling them in retail.

Your best chance of finding a mask is actually in hardware store. The usual outlets where you would expect to find them are sold out.

masks work and is another layer of protection against the virus and yet WHO isn't recommending it at all. FUCKING STUPID CUNTS!

According to Cuomo today, about 21% of the New York City population has antibodies for covid 19. Results came from a state wide study.

I don't know if that's good news or bad but it is good to know that 1 in 5 New Yorkers can possibly return to work and some kind of normal life without fear.

Healthy 57-year-old woman was first confirmed coronavirus death in US

A seemingly healthy 57-year-old San Jose woman has emerged as the first person in the US to have died of the coronavirus — with her Feb. 6 death coming almost three weeks before two fatalities were reported, according to a report.

Patricia Dowd, a manager for a semiconductor company, died suddenly after she had appeared to recover from flu-like symptoms, the LA Times reported. Her death was at first believed to be from a heart attack.

But this week, authorities told her family that she tested positive for COVID-19, making her the first confirmed fatality from the illness in the nation.

Previously, the first documented fatality was reported on Feb. 29 in Kirkland, Washington, a Seattle suburb, though officials later attributed two Feb. 26 deaths to the bug.

Santa Clara County’s health officer said the deaths of three people in the county — Dowd’s, another on Feb. 17 and a third of March 6 — were evidence that the virus arrived in the Bay Area far earlier than expected, the LA paper reported.

“None of these cases had a significant travel history,” Dr. Sara Cody said Wednesday of the three deaths.

“We presume that each of them represent community transmission and that there was some significant level of virus circulating in our community in early February … and who knows how much earlier.”

Dowd’s relatives told the news outlet that she became unusually sick in late January with flu-like symptoms, but had improved and was corresponding from home with a colleague at 8 a.m. Feb. 6.

Roughly two hours later, her daughter found her dead.

Dowd’s brother-in-law Jeff Macias told the LA Times that she had planned to travel to China later this year and traveled abroad “multiple times a year to different global locations.”

“Where did this come from if it wasn’t her traveling?” Macias said. “Patricia may not be the first. It’s just the earliest we have found so far.”

He added: “Let’s keep looking so we know the extent of it — that’s for the greater good, for everyone else and my family included.”

Rick Cabello, Dowd’s older brother, said she didn’t smoke and was in good health.

“She was an athlete in her high school days, she was always active,” Cabello told CNN.

Dowd was “hardworking, loyal and caring,” he told the LA Times. “She was the energy person in her large network of friends. She was everybody’s rock.”

[quote]I don't know if that's good news or bad but it is good to know that 1 in 5 New Yorkers can possibly return to work and some kind of normal life without fear.

Except that nobody's said anything definitive about if or how long immunity is conferred.

FDNY firefighter loses 5-month-old daughter to coronavirus

As the pandemic progresses, we are learning that it doesn't play favorites.

It will snatch any available body up, and take them down in various new and creative ways.

It's not going anywhere anytime soon.

Exactly, r81. There have been conflicting reports as to whether antibodies for this virus last more than 6 weeks or if they confer any actual immunity. I'm cautiously optimistic, but not betting any $ on us knowing for sure for a while.

There just isn't a lot of evidence about how effective a cloth mask is, but even if it's only a tiny bit effective, the exponential benefits will be enough to make it worthwhile.

Sad about Liz Warren's brother

Penguins strolling through the streets in South Africa

Word from Italy: the Italian papers are reporting that groups of doctors are saying that the virus seems to be losing force, the new infections they're seeing seem to be milder.

That is precious, R87. The fact that they wait for each other just gives me the feels.

UK Coronavirus Update Thursday 24/4 🇬🇧

National Lionhead Rabbit Day 🐇

138,078 cases

4583 new cases

18,738 deaths

638 new deaths

R85, actually, there are test results upthread. Some people have tested various homemade mask materials with the same equipment they use to test an N95 mask. Coronavirus is small compared to many viruses. But it is carried on droplets, which are large.

The masks were tested based on the size of Coronavirus alone, not the size of droplets. Pretty much any of them will stop most droplets, which means if you’re wearing one and social distancing you probably won’t transmit it. One report said if 80% wore masks of any kind, that would bring the transmission rate down to less than R1, which means the number of infected would keep going down.

Some fairly effective masks are made of double layers or more of heavy T shirt material, quilting fabric, high thread count or bamboo sheets, or canvas or denim with a filter inside. The thicker the fabric the better, as long as you can breathe through it. More layers are better too.

Filters can be anything from shop towels, vacuum cleaner bags or Filtrete 1500 furnace filters. Of course it’s very hard to find all of these now, but shop towels can still be found around if you look. Also Swiffer dry disposable pads, interface lining for clothing, pretty much anything that’s woven and not fabric is good for a liner. Even felt if that’s what you have. Also, it’s best not to have seams over the nose area, pleats or darts is better.

If you do use vacuum cleaner bags or filters, check to make sure there are no toxic substances.

[quote] Does the thread title problem happen at the Broadway gossip thread?

That’s where it started, but everyone there now recognizes the Loon and don’t play with him. So he had to come over here.

He does this to the press conference thread too

Wow, our loon is Matt?

I'm usually good at playing "Name That Loon" but my spidey-senses failed me on this one.

[quote]Filters can be anything from shop towels, vacuum cleaner bags or Filtrete 1500 furnace filters. Of course it’s very hard to find all of these now, but shop towels can still be found around if you look. Also Swiffer dry disposable pads, interface lining for clothing, pretty much anything that’s woven and not fabric is good for a liner. Even felt if that’s what you have. Also, it’s best not to have seams over the nose area, pleats or darts is better.

I was talking to my sister yesterday and she said she saw a doctor on TV this week say paper towels are effective as a second layer, so she's been doing that since can't find any of the other stuff you mention.

So much for that red herring

Guardian-An experimental drug that had touted as a potentially effective treatment for coronavirus has flopped in its first comprehensive clinical trial, according to draft results accidentally published online by the World Health Organisation. According to a report in the Financial Times, which saw the documents, remdesivir failed to improve the condition of patients or reduce the among of the virus in the blood. The trial, in China, studied the effects of remdesivir on 237 patients, giving the drug to 158, while keeping 79 others as a control group. Optimism about the drug, made by US drug company Gilead Sciences, had boosted stock markets around the world at the end of last week.

R66 I am going to try a disposable shopping bag to use as an insert. They are waterproof. I tried breathing with it against my face and I can breathe. I ran water over it and no water got through at all. I have a bunch of bags from Safeway You can take the insert out and wash with soap and water.

I'm the OP of this thread, and also April is the Cruellest Month, No Country for Old Men, The Corona Strain, Apocalypse Soon, and World War C.

I'm British and have zero interest in Broadway or in the Treason threads. Check my posting history if you want to verify this.

Here's the best way to keep me at bay and stop me starting a more suitably titled thread: do NOT name your thread something irrelevant like Mistress of Evil and then put 'let's go' as your simple minded caption.

R97 Your thread titles are my favorite. Thank you.

Cone shaped coffee filters are an excellent choice as an extra layer of protection for your hand crafted face masks.

We used them at the orphanage, and distribute them too the poor people.

If it walks like a loon, posts like a loon, smells like a loon...

...it’s a loon

Thank you, R98!

You're the evil little #SchoolyardBully.

Where you come from doesn't change a thing.

And why are you still spewing your cuntiness on the April thread? History tells us that one thread just isn't enough for you.

Gov. Cuomo Responds To McConnell's Call To Bankrupt New York, End 'Blue State Bailouts'

^^^ I'm sure you know that r102 is for you.

But then again, it takes you a while to catch up as you balance two or three threads.

WILL NO ONE THINK OF THE BED BUGS?!

How will the bedbugs at Trump's resorts cope?

[quote]Filters can be anything from shop towels, vacuum cleaner bags or Filtrete 1500 furnace filters

I can't imagine it's safe to use either vacuum cleaner bags or furnace filters, or even HEPA filters. All of the ones I have in the house have visible little fibers and I wouldn't want to be inhaling any of that.

Also, what I linked included a PDF of a medical study on masks. I'm familiar with what bloggers and newspapers and self-appointed testers have said, but I doubt governments are going to say "Bob over at DailyKos made a mask out of six layers of furnace filters, so homemade masks are A-okay." That's what I was addressing specifically, that hospitals, medical personnel, governments, etc. are giving mixed messages because the OFFICIAL word is that we simply don't know how well masks work, and they're having trouble conveying that.

Disappointing to hear that about remdesivir, I was hoping it would be effective.

R107, furnace filters and vacuum cleaner bags are made out of a lot of different things. Some are toxic and some are not. I hope somebody will put out a list pretty soon, because people need to know.

I went to Home Depot not long ago and every single A/C filter was Rheem. Normally they’re all Filtrete. So this information is getting out.

I stumbled on an old article about Brexit yesterday and actually felt nostalgic.

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well, just had my whole summer cleared out, officially. I knew it would happen but was just waiting for the call. large production in august postponed until 2021. . . . .

Maxine Waters on the floor of the House chamber this afternoon:

“I not only rise in support of this legislation. I also would like to rise in support of what we’re doing for the health care enhancement act in this bill. And I’m going to take a moment to dedicate this legislation to my dear sister who is dying in a hospital in St. Louis, Mo., right now infected by the coronavirus.” –

R88, please post a link, I tried searching but couldn't find anything about the virus weakening in Italy.

R112, I'm sorry to hear that, but I guess you could teach music to kids online as a side gig? good luck!

So what happens if antibody testing shows a much lower mortality rate than anticipated? I feel like it's a bad call to gamble on unpredictable data. What if it turns out most Americans were never susceptible?

You’re right R116. We should open up everything now!

What if you’re a shit stirrer and contrarian fuck?? We still don’t even know if having antibodies means immunity.

R108 Still hope for Ivermectin

😝 Imagine a bedbug infestation in Trump's hair.

How much in Kickback$ is Trump receiving from big business bailouts. Trump isn't someone who just gives, he's the guy who give and takes backs.

Unless I am reading that wrong, [R118], the report cited in the twitter feed seems to suggest that this disease is, in fact, completely fatal - that any recovery is a false dawn and that the patient ultimately dies of a collapse of the immune system. Is that a possibility?

The story at R111 is outrageous. I'm a small-business owner. My employees and I are facing direct economic consequences from this. The aid has evaporated as quickly as it's been released because larger companies know how to work the system and find loopholes to line the pockets of their greedy executives. If we don't stop it now, this will be the final blow to the middle class in America.

Why would a small business owner vote for a con artist that was known for fleecing small businesses.

They need to answer for voting for him and then complaining about the results.

R121 I'm not qualified to answer that question, but I've long suspected that the virus, once established, would become a chronic infestation like Herpes or HIV that would have to be managed throughout the life of the victim. Based on all of the "Recovered!...Whoops...no...still testing positive" cases we're seeing. Anyway, I was trying to link to this threadroll on Ivermectin.

[R124], the comment in the first quote seems to indicate that the outcome is invariably fatal without treatment. In other words, you get it before a treatment is developed and you are as good as dead.

Trump is asking the UK to bail out his Scottish golf courses

What are you talking about, R123?

WaPo:

Misunderstanding the math, Trump embraced a coronavirus death toll we’ll soon surpass

I doubt that a person would have permanent immunity once contracting the coronavirus. It would most likely be temporary immunity like with the season flu or common cold.

WHO should back probe of coronavirus origins, says Australian PM

All members of the World Health Organization should be behind an independent review of how the coronavirus spread around the world, Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison said Thursday, according to a report.

Morrison has been in contact with President Trump and other world leaders to build support for an examination of how the outbreak, which began in December in China, ultimately spread around the world and infected more than 2.6 million people.

“If you’re going to be a member of a club like the World Health Organization, there should be responsibilities and obligations attached to that,” Morrison told reporters in Canberra, Reuters reported.

“We’d like the world to be safer when it comes to viruses … I would hope that any other nation, be it China or anyone else, would share that objective.”

Morrison’s comments come days after Australia’s Foreign Minister Marise Payne joined with Trump to call for an investigation into China’s response to the pandemic.

“The issues around the coronavirus are issues for independent review, and I think that it is important that we do that,” Payne told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation on Sunday. “In fact, Australia will absolutely insist on that.”

“My trust in China is predicated in the long term. My concern is around transparency and ensuring that we are able to engage openly,” Payne said, adding that the World Health Organization shouldn’t conduct the probe.

Trump has blasted the Chinese Communist Party for not accurately reporting the number of cases it had after COVID-19 broke out in the city of Wuhan.

I checked hairdressers because they are more like business owners renting a chair. There is no unemployment they can collect, like the others would.

The US is such a cesspool that the coronavirus is basically a mercy killing.

Reuters:

Lawyers for ousted U.S. health official say he will file whistleblower's complaint

Any activities that can reasonably done with gloves and a mask on should be allowed at this point. The goal was to taper the infection rate to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed, not preventing the inevitable spread of an airborne virus. It isn't airborne super AIDS.

I’m fairly sure I’m on the back end of self-resolving after a comparatively mild bunch of symptoms-heaviness in head/body, fever which came and went, chest tightening. And then a few days ago the ol’ pinkeye came along. Swell.

Heavily armed assholes are harassing nurses at the Kansas protests

The barber has to wear a mask. I'm thinking I will tape some type of covering on my face, the ear piece of a mask will interfere with hair cutting...I know I will look like an idiot but better safe than sorry.

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 23 - 5:25 PM EST

💏 NATIONAL LOVERS DAY

🎲TAKE A CHANCE DAY

🌐 GLOBAL

CASES: 2,710,071

DEATHS: 190,098

CRITICAL: 58,675

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 876,156

DEATHS: 49,648

CRITICAL: 14,994

🎲 DON'T TAKE A CHANCE ON CORONA !

[quote]NEW: In deleted tweets, new HHS spokesman Michael Caputo said the coronavirus was because "millions of Chinese suck the blood out of rabid bats as an appetizer and eat the ass out of anteaters."

Imagine showing up in public with a sign that says "Sacrifice the weak"

Whether or not masks are effective, psychologically they're helpful.

The Hill:

House passes $484B coronavirus relief package

Immunity to seasonal influenza is actually pretty long lasting. It just mutates so quickly that effectively it is a new virus every year.

[quote] Whether or not masks are effective, psychologically they're helpful.

True, and i anything, they're constant reminders not to touch your face, mouth, nose, eyes, etc. while out.

Is contact tracing (following records of cell phone signals) to identify people who may be exposed to the virus really a big thing? Is it feasible? I read a ProPublica list of controlling virus spread and they put it at the top of essentials. They said California alone would need 20k tracers. That would be 160 thousand people for the whole country. At least it would help the unemployment numbers.

R145, contact tracing was a key part of South Korea’s response.

R145 That seems like massive overkill. Hasn't California maintained some of the best numbers in the country so far? Do they actually need this?

R147, They will if people go back to work. As long as everybody stays home, except for minimal essential trips wearing a mask, less and less people will be infected. But of course we will still want to track down infected people and stop them in their tracks.

If people go to work, restaurants and nail salons, there will be drastically more people that need tracking as the numbers of infected go through the roof.

Trying to stop the virus without tests or PPE, and trying to treat a tsunami of new cases without beefing up hospital beds drastically, and I don’t mean tents in Central Park in December, is reckless and irresponsible. We need to pump out as much PPE and find spaces for as many indoor hospital beds as possible. Maybe in hotels or schools. Somewhere indoors, with individual bathrooms, ideally somewhere we can keep in reserve for a year or two.

This could very well turn into an epidemic every winter until there’s a good treatment or vaccine.

Closing in on 50,000 deaths

nooooo

This is bizarre even by Trump's standards.

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[quote]I checked hairdressers because they are more like business owners renting a chair. There is no unemployment they can collect, like the others would.

The CARES act was supposed to give states the option of provisioning pandemic unemployment assistance to people like hairdressers and other independent contractors so that they could collect some type of unemployment, but as far as I know, no state has implemented it yet, and the provision will now be moot once all the governors decide to "re-open" those businesses ASAP. So basically those provisions were sound and fury.

Trump @ r151, acting like a crack scientist whose halfway to the cure with his very own brilliant idea that will surely eliminate the virus.

Meanwhile. Birx sitting on a chair like a shrinking violet, shoved against the wall, looking terrified. Well, Debbie, you should be.....your boss is f*ck*ng nuts.

Churches have been trying to peddle this MMS bleach solution to idiots, I think that is what Trump is talking about. I think he really wants to kill people, and Corona isn't doing it fast enough.

Now Trump is encouraging deplorable to drink bleach

Trump's talking about the combination of high humidity and UV lights destroying the virus.

Kushner is probably ordering millions of bulbs as we speak.

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Chris Cuomo was doing bleach baths. His wife is too.

[quote]I can't imagine it's safe to use either vacuum cleaner bags or furnace filters, or even HEPA filters.

Many vacuum bags contain fiberglass, as do M3 air filters. Filtrite emailed me back and said that they don't have any fiberglass in their furnace filters, relying on a poly fiber weave, pleating, and electrostatic metal grids instead, but they also said they can't verify how safe it is to breathe through the material as a mask filter.

About Trump telling people to drink bleach, no, I think he was telling them to inject “disinfectant” with a needle. Could be bleach or maybe Lysol or something like that?

And I couldn’t believe all those doctors there didn’t immediately say, fuck no you’ll die if you do that! Don’t listen to him! But people still have irrational respect for the office of the Presidency, which Trump doesn’t.

About the Coronavirus being a man made variant, in the end I think that’s what it will come out to be. People keep saying no, but there’s too many things about this virus that are unusually resistant. Longer than usual ability to live on a surface, ability to live in higher temperatures longer, the blood clot issue, people getting all kinds of strange symptoms that vary so much from person to person. The sudden death aspect that isn’t well understood. There’s just a lot of weird things about it.

Trump must be high as a kite to say shit like this...who the fuck is telling him this shit? Does he go on crazy websites or what? Does he even listen to himself?

Seriously, watching fox news must retard your brain!

Trump must be high as a kite to say shit like this...who the fuck is telling him this shit? Does he go on crazy websites or what? Does he even listen to himself?

Seriously, watching fox news must retard your brain!

Chris Cuomo to Doctor: “Was I wasting my time shivering and sweating, when I was only a couple of sprays of Fantastick away?”

R152 I’ve been with AMEX for 15 years and have a charge card but can carry a balance for purchases over $200.00, after 15 years of “NO LIMIT” they capped me at $10k.

Fuck those cocksuckers! I hope they all go out of business, of course after the massive bailouts they’ll get and give to their executives.

Cuomo to McConnell: "It's your state that's living on the money that we generate."

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 23 - 10:35 PM EST

💏 NATIONAL LOVERS DAY

🎲 TAKE A CHANCE DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 2,718,699

DEATHS: 190,654

CRITICAL: 58,678

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 880,204

DEATHS: 49,845

CRITICAL: 14,997

🥤 DON'T DRINK THE CLOROX COCKTAIL !

[quote] Meanwhile. Birx sitting on a chair like a shrinking violet, shoved against the wall, looking terrified. Well, Debbie, you should be.....your boss is f*ck*ng nuts.

It’s beyond despicable that not one doctor or scientist leapt up and said, “no, don’t do that. Injecting or inhaling disinfectant will kill you.” He IS fucking nuts. And you know there are deplorables who will try this disinfectant “cure”and die.

More than 2,300 deaths today in the U.S. and nearly 35,000 new cases.

They keep saying we've passed the peak, but why aren't the numbers decreasing at all? IMHE is forecasting 67,000 total deaths through August, but we've already topped 50,000. Unless the numbers suddenly start plummeting, it seems that we might surpass 67,000 within the next couple of weeks.

[quote]...who the fuck is telling him this shit?

Probably shit stirrer Alex Jones, who sells silver and iodine toothpaste purported to cure the virus. 🙄

We won't see the peak until late May into mid June.

Trump should start following the numbers on a daily basis.

Barron can explain to Daddy Dearest exactly what they mean.

Covid 19! But what about my career?

Trump should start wearing a face mask dipped in bleach.

Just tell him that it will kill Corona on contact, and make him look ten years younger.

R169 If you look at the numbers, Italy had a long plateau when they reached peak daily deaths. It flattened out for a long time before starting to go down (very slowly.) I think we’ll see the same thing here.

And btw Italy had twice as many daily deaths per capita at their peak as we have now.

R158 That man-made virus theory doesn’t sound all that implausible. Have we ever seen a virus as bizarre as this one, where at one end of the spectrum 80% of people can be totally asymptomatic or have mild symptoms while 20% end up in the ICU on ventilators and many of them die, and it seems totally random which end of the spectrum you might end up? Plus aside from the lungs it can destroy multiple organs- kidney, heart, blood clotting, even neurological and gastrointestinal effects plus skin skin rashes? It seems like every week a new batch of effects is discovered. can’t think of any other virus that has such a wide range of effects and severity.

[quote]Probably shit stirrer Alex Jones, who sells silver and iodine toothpaste purported to cure the virus.

Wasn’t there a Q Anon claim making the rounds of those loons that drinking dilute bleach would cure Covid?

I've always worried about about scientists messing around with genes. It may not be for nefarious purposes but the law of probabilities would guarantee that there will be unintended consequences. When one of those unintended consequences is 100% fatal, that's it. Imagine if ebola became more easily transmittable from person to person?

And, that IMHE website everyone has been following since the start of all of this is completely fucking wrong for most of the states and the country as a whole. Go check their former projections against real data.

Trump just might be onto something. I think he should be the first test subject and when the bleach works, he can take all the credit.

Rich Hamptonites are getting coronavirus tests thanks to $1,000 house calls

Wealthy Hamptons residents are getting COVID-19 diagnostic and antibody tests at their mansions from concierge medical firms who charge membership fees in the thousands.

Sources told Page Six that people in “spacesuits” turn up at homes in the area to administer the tests, and demand “has been so intense that some people are happy to pay” exorbitantly.

One medic running this service is Dr. Bernard Kruger, who has a private practice uptown and whose clients reportedly include Leon Black, Howard Stern, Tommy Mottola, Tommy Hilfiger and Sting. The tests are free to members, but come with a house-call fee of $1,000.

Sollis Health, of which Kruger is a co-founder, confirmed it has experienced a huge demand for antibody tests from members in the Hamptons. The concierge service costs $5,000 for those over 45.

Other sources said demand for concierge testing has been intense, because people don’t want to enter medical facilities and that “during the early days, when testing was scarce, some people were paying other services $5,000 for a test.”

Yesterday, for the first time. I saw the clip of Trump demonstrating the difference between a standard size Qtip and the giant sized Corona test kit Qtip.

I can't believe I missed this little show and tell demo.

Here's to Trump demo'ing this in his next show and tell.

Looks like a Grasshopper!

[quote]Is contact tracing (following records of cell phone signals) to identify people who may be exposed to the virus really a big thing? Is it feasible?

Okay, I have a question (and yes, it may be a dumb question but I'm going to ask it anyway): Regarding this app that Apple and Google are working on together to send alerts to your phone if you've been near someone who's infected with coronavirus, they say you'll get a beep to let you know, but what if you've been near more than one person who was infected? Or even several people? I mean living in a city like New York, just walking down the street or riding the subway you could be nearby any number of people who may be infected. So what happens then? You'll get a beep on your phone for one person ... and then another beep for another person ... and then another beep for another person ... and on and on? When does it end? And if you have to quarantine for every beep you get, you could be hunkered down for six months before you can come out of your house again (after which you'll get another beep and have to go right back in).

Okay, I'm being a bit facetious about it, but you get my drift. All the descriptions I've heard about this app, they talk about it like "Oh, the app will send you a beep so that you know you were near someone who was infected" but never address the possibility that those beeps could come every other hour of every single day depending on where you live. Or is this not a valid concern?

Twitter went crazy tonight with hundreds of people shouting out to others to not believe what Trump said on his show this afternoon. He was thinking out loud (dangerous) about injecting household disinfectants to kill the Coronavirus. Clorox and Lysol were both trending, Tweeters telling others how lethal they are and not to shoot them up.

It's terrible that there actually are people who are dumber than Trump. And that our news networks are carrying his dangerous rhetoric live. Is Trump actually trying to kill off people? The clues seem to be there.

My son Eric will be the first test subject for the bleach trials

[quote]Trump actually trying to kill off people?

Seems fairly obvious to me.

R22

I fear you are correct.

Bloody days lie ahead.

Did Fox News cover the “inject bleach” story? What did they say? Go ahead, if the President says it, it’s right? Or, omg, don’t die and leave our viewership? What a dilemma.

Jake Tapper @jaketapper · 19m Today Johns Hopkins University reported 27,389 new US cases and 3,199 new US deaths due to coronavirus.

Its total tally is of 868,945 reported cases of coronavirus in the US and at least 49,887 deaths in the US from coronavirus.

DW News @dwnews · 15m After weeks of #coronavirus restrictions, many European countries have slowly begun to ease lockdown measures.

The Daily Beast @thedailybeast · 28m Coronavirus survivor @Andy demands end to anti-gay law so he can donate blood and help save lives

How kids in China go to school.

Must be a big story coming out Friday if they are this desperate for a distraction.

The immigration trick didn’t work this time.

The Iran war threats are not working.

So let’s tell everyone to inject bleach! That will keep them busy.

Nurses don’t even get PPE like that in the U.S., let alone kids. It would be great if somebody was making masses of PPE like that for later, while we’re all locked away.

Deplorables are going full Kool-Aid now.

I don't believe for a minute the virus wasn't engineered, accident or not.

Go ahead, deplorables, start drinking bleach. Stick it to us naysaying libs!

(And before someone tries to correct me, I know Trump spoke about injecting it, not drinking it. There was some batshit "religious" guy who suggested drinking bleach recently. It's all the same crazy shit as far as I'm concerned.)

obama and hillary knew that clorox enemas would protect us from the virus and they withheld that info. lock 'em up.

Surely someone with some kind of expert qualifications told him about the injection of Lysol( I haven’t seen a can in weeks)or whatever. If this isn’t a reason for the men with white coats to take him away nothing is.

Vegas mayor : I am the dumbest cunt who ever cunted.

Trump : hold my beer.

[quote]Surely someone with some kind of expert qualifications told him about the injection of Lysol( I haven’t seen a can in weeks)or whatever. If this isn’t a reason for the men with white coats to take him away nothing is.

He said nothing about injecting bleach.

Trump's new team of medical consultants...

Seriously, what's up with that tweet at R118?

It's bullshit, right?

Sunlight and bleach might kill the coronavirus on a park bench, but they can be harmful to the body

From CNN's Maggie Fox

Sunlight and bleach can both kill the novel coronavirus, a federal official told the daily White House briefing on Thursday. But US President Donald Trump turned what should have been a simple scientific summary into a puzzling stream of dangerous ideas about somehow streaming light into the body and suggestions about injecting disinfectants.

Here's what was said: Bill Bryan, a senior official at the US Department of Homeland Security, said studies on the virus showed bleach kills coronavirus in about five minutes, and isopropyl alcohol destroys it even faster.

He also said the virus dies quickest under direct sunlight, and that temperature and humidity affect how long the virus survives.

This was Trump's take:

""Suppose that we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light and I think you said that it hasn't been checked and you're going to test it," Trump told Bryan. "Suppose you can bring the light inside the body.""

It was not immediately clear how Trump would propose bringing light into the body.

"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in one minute. Is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning ... it would be interesting to check that," Trump added.

Scientists were horrified by his claims. Multiple experts warned after Trump's briefing that nobody should ingest disinfectant, and that it simply doesn't work.

The World Health Organization says on its website that exposing yourself to the sun or high temperatures does not prevent Covid-19, and warns specifically against using ultraviolet lamps, including tanning lamps, to try to kill virus.

"UV lamps should not be used to sterilize hands or other areas of skin as UV radiation can cause skin irritation," the WHO cautions.

Too much UV light damage can lead to skin cancer.

And chlorine bleach is toxic: it can and does kill people who drink it. The US Food and Drug Administration regularly warns the public against drinking bleach, or even inhaling fumes from bleach. It's also irritating to skin.

I never wish ill health on anyone (even him...) but it would be nice if all his voters took his advice and drank a whole gallon of bleach...

I know I'm going to hell for thinking this.

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No decision yet on when Boris Johnson will return to work, says UK health secretary

From CNN's Simon Cullen

There's no decision yet on when UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson will return to work, said Health Secretary Matt Hancock, speaking to Sky News.

"I spoke to the prime minister yesterday -- he's in good shape. And I’m sure he’ll come back as soon as his doctors recommend it," Hancock said. "The decision hasn’t been taken, but the prime minister is taking calls and staying in touch."

Johnson has spoken to US President Donald Trump and the Queen by phone this week, while he continues to recover at the prime minister’s countryside retreat, Chequers.

From Columbia University:

"Could a New Ultraviolet Technology Fight the Spread of Coronavirus?"

[R203], that tweet at [R118] is the scariest thing I've read thus far. It basically suggests a 100% fatality rate without treatment.

If up to 70% of the population gets this and the 100% fatality occurrence kicks in, goodbye Human Civilization in any recognizable form.

TRump is a visionary (As in, he’s seeing visions.)

Lock him up.

About that post at R118, look again. There’s some weird posts by the original twitter poster and the re-poster that refer to Julian Assange, Russia and conspiracies. Possibly they are Russian or at least Trumpers. Also, one of them has few posts on their feed. I think it’s disinformation.

Yeah, [R212] - I noticed that the original Twitter posters seems highly suspect. But the info quoted seems to be from a separate source - unless it's simply meant to spread panic and therefore support the medication as a possible cure.

Unfortunately, we are living in the Golden Age of the Snake Oil Salesman.

Guardian-Russia confirmed 5,849 new cases of coronavirus on Friday, a sudden spike that appears to dash hopes that the country has reached a plateau in its battle against the virus. The near-record jump in cases brought the country’s total to 68,622, with nearly half of those in Moscow, the country’s capital. The sudden increase came after several days of decreasing tallies, and was accompanied by reports that hospitalisations in Moscow have been going up. On Thursday, the chief doctor at one of Moscow’s hospitals battling the virus said that emergency departments are under pressure from a wave of younger patients

[quote]Does anyone see bars coming back in the next 3 months?

'Cause the man from Mars stopped eatin' cars and eatin' bars. And he only eats guitars GEDDUP!!

Australia to start testing pet cats for coronavirus. Pretty sad state of affairs when most wealthy countries in the world can barely test their unwell citizens. Cats in Australia have easier access to testing than most people on the planet!

Australian chief medical officer Brendan Murphy reaction on Trumps suggestion that people injection disinfection - he can barely contain his laughter - note the Prime Minister smirking on the side.

Truely, can Trump get any more stupid?

R203 & R210 & R212 I apologize for that Twitter link. Somewhere buried in that guy's post was a list of actual legitimate articles about Ivermectin that I was trying to share. But the link displayed those very dubious comments cut and pasted from some rando posting on Statnews.

Hi [R218] - thanks - the part that had me freaked out was the description of how the virus appears to shut down the immune system after initial recovery. Does this seem suspect or is it part of a valid profile of the disease? I don;t recall seeing it elsewhere, but I can see why they wouldn't make it general knowledge at this point.

The NYC Health Dept has sent alert to all medical providers advising *not* to use antibody tests to diagnose prior covid infection nor to assess immunity.

This is due to high rate of false negatives/positives and uncertainty about how immunity works.

[quote]Unless I am reading that wrong, [[R118]], the report cited in the twitter feed seems to suggest that this disease is, in fact, completely fatal - that any recovery is a false dawn and that the patient ultimately dies of a collapse of the immune system. Is that a possibility?

Once in every generation, the Plague shall fall among them.

That's what it says in the Book.

Seems like mebbe you went a little to far this time.

CDC triples number of coronavirus symptoms

The Centers for Disease Control has tripled the number of symptoms that could be indicators of coronavirus, including muscle pain, headache and new loss of taste or smell.

WGME reported Thursday that the CDC previously listed three key symptoms as shortness of breath, fever and a cough.

The expanded list comes as researchers from around the world work to learn more about the deadly pandemic that has infected at least 2.7 million people worldwide and killed nearly 200,000.

The CDC still warns that older adults and those with underlying medical conditions continue to be at higher risk for serious complications from the virus. Its website says fever, cough, shortness of breath, chills, repeated shaking, muscle pain, headache, sore throat and new loss of taste or smell could all be symptoms that appear between two and 14 days after exposure.

Doctors are studying other symptoms that patients have complained about, including what are known as “COVID toes”.

One of the most vexing elements about the virus is how it can be deadly in some patients and asymptomatic in others, who can still spread the disease.

President Trump has expressed the determination to reopen the county, but much of that success will hinge on identifying cases and keeping them out of the public until cleared of the virus.

The WGME report pointed out that more than a quarter of 619 coronavirus patients surveyed by the American Academy of Otolaryngology noticed the loss of taste or smell as their first symptoms.

“If you have a sudden change in taste or smell, it is shown through this study and several others that this may be the initial marker, so you would not want to be spreading it,” one of the researchers told the website.

What if they did like that documentary Fantastic Voyage and strunk a bunch of doctors down and injected them into a patient's bloodstream so fight the virus there so we don't have to fight it here?

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 24 - 10:45 AM EST

😹 HAIRBALL AWARENESS DAY

🐷 PIG IN A BLANKET DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 2,754,506

DEATHS: 192,377

CRITICAL: 58,743

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 888,881

DEATHS: 50,369

CRITICAL: 15,029

🍹 TRUMP COCKTAIL HOUR ...... JUST SAY NO !

The US will send ventilators to Ecuador, El Salvador and Indonesia, Trump says

From CNN's Nikki Carvajal

The United States will send ventilators to Ecuador, El Salvador and Indonesia, President Trump tweeted Friday, announcing he spoke with the countries' presidents.

"Just spoke to my friend, President Joko Widodo of the Republic of Indonesia. Asking for Ventilators, which we will provide," the President wrote. "Great cooperation between us!"

Trump said he had a "great conversation with President Lenin Moreno" of Ecuador. He added that the US "will be sending them desperately needed Ventilators, of which we have recently manufactured many, and helping them in other ways. They are fighting hard against CoronaVirus!"

Trump also praised El Salvador for helping the US on immigration.

"Will be helping them with Ventilators, which are desperately needed," Trump wrote. "They have worked well with us on immigration at the Southern Border!"

Germany's largest state will allow some religious services next month

From CNN's Nadine Schmidt in Berlin

Bavaria, Germany's largest federal state, will allow church and other religious services to go ahead under certain conditions beginning on May 4, local authorities said on Friday.

Visitors must maintain a distance of about 2 meters, or about six feet, from each other and wear face coverings. There will also be a 60-minute time limit, Bavaria's head of the state chancellery Florian Herrmann told CNN in a statement.

He warned that there needs to be an abundance of caution in conducting the services, adding: 'No infections should follow from encounters of faith! Faith and community strengthens us, especially in challenging times.'

Bavaria is the German state with the highest number of confirmed coronavirus cases and deaths.

Following Trump's comments, Lysol maker says its products should not be injected or ingested

The maker of Lysol issued a statement Friday clarifying that under no circumstances should its products be administered into the human body, after US President Donald Trump suggested the possibility of injecting disinfectants to treat the coronavirus.

Manufacturer Reckitt Benckiser said that the range of disinfectants and cleaners must not enter the body "through injection, ingestion or any other route.”

“We have a responsibility in providing consumers with access to accurate, up-to-date information as advised by leading public health experts,” the company said.

The statement followed remarks from President Trump on Thursday on the use of disinfectants.

"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in one minute. Is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning ... it would be interesting to check that," Trump said. “It sounds interesting to me,” he added.

CNN’s Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta was quick to point out that this is simply wrong.

“He also said it needs to be studied. Actually, it doesn’t. I mean we know the answer to this one,” he said on CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360 on Thursday.

“I think everybody would know that that would be dangerous and counter-productive.”

The US Food and Drug Administration regularly warns the public against drinking bleach, or even inhaling fumes from bleach. It's also irritating to skin.

On Monday, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said calls about poisonings with cleaners and disinfectants had increased more than 20% in the first three months of 2020 -- as coronavirus cleaning increased -- than from the same period a year earlier. Among cleaners, bleaches accounted for the largest percentage increase in calls from 2019 to 2020.

The CDC recommends using soap and water or bleach on surfaces to kill the virus. Rubbing alcohol that's at least 70% alcohol will also kill it on surfaces; 60% for your hands.

^^^ Does that mean those countries were the highest bidders?

The UK government's new coronavirus testing website overwhelmed by demand in its first hours online

From CNN's Simon Cullen

The UK government’s new website designed to allow essential workers to directly book a coronavirus test has already been closed to new applications just hours after being launched.

The site went live at 6am UK time (1aET).

By late Friday morning, users trying to book a test were greeted by a message saying: “You can’t currently register for a Covid-19 test. Please check back here later.”

The Department of Health and Social Care said on Twitter: “There has been significant demand for booking tests today. We apologise for any inconvenience. We are continuing to rapidly increase availability. More tests will be available tomorrow.”

Boris Johnson's government has been criticized for failing to provide the same level of testing that other European countries have, with several NHS hospitals, health care workers and care home employees complaining about being unable to access tests.

The government launched the site to try to increase the number of people being tested for the virus. Those classified as "essential workers" with coronavirus symptoms are eligible to be tested. People who live with essential workers and have symptoms are also eligible for a test.

Britain's Health Secretary Matt Hancock set a target of conducting 100,000 tests per day by the end of April -- but on Wednesday, just 23,560 tests were carried out.

Researchers clone antibodies from recovered coronavirus patients, with hope for a future treatment

From CNN Health’s Arman Azad

Researchers in China say they have successfully cloned antibodies from recovered coronavirus patients, a potential first step in developing a new type of treatment for the virus.

In test tubes, the antibodies prevented the binding of the novel coronavirus to its receptor, according to the researchers. Antibodies that block that step – which is critical for infection – could one day be a promising treatment for the virus.

But it’s not clear whether blocking the binding of the virus in a lab means the antibodies could prevent infection in real humans.

The researchers published their findings Monday in the medical journal Cellular and Molecular Immunology. They cloned two different antibodies – called 311mab-31B5 and 311mab-32D4 – and said the antibodies “neutralized” the entry of a fake coronavirus into cells.

The antibodies could one day be used as “prophylactic and therapeutic agents,” the researchers said, suggesting they could one day be used to both prevent and treat Covid-19.

Using cloned antibodies to treat diseases is not a new concept. The approach has been used to develop experimental treatments for Ebola, using antibodies from animals or people exposed to the virus.

The underlying idea – that antibodies can be used as a treatment – is also being tested in trials of so-called convalescent plasma. That treatment is somewhat different, though, with people who have recovered from the novel coronavirus giving their antibody-filled blood plasma to those who are sick.

It remains unclear whether cloned antibodies – such as those developed by the Chinese researchers – could be a successful treatment for the novel coronavirus, and this new research is in its earliest stages.

The approach may hold promise, though. In 2018, the top US infectious disease specialist, Anthony Fauci, wrote in the New England Journal of Medicine that “effective antibodies have become easier to identify, select, optimize, and manufacture.”

Writing alongside other experts, Fauci said the treatments, technically called monoclonal antibodies, “are positioned to play a larger role in future public health responses involving the diagnosis, prevention, and treatment of [emerging infectious diseases].”

But the antibodies come with a downside: they’re incredibly expensive. As Fauci wrote, “pragmatic concerns must be addressed – notably cost.”

[quote]About the Coronavirus being a man made variant, in the end I think that’s what it will come out to be. People keep saying no, but there’s too many things about this virus that are unusually resistant. Longer than usual ability to live on a surface, ability to live in higher temperatures longer, the blood clot issue, people getting all kinds of strange symptoms that vary so much from person to person. The sudden death aspect that isn’t well understood. There’s just a lot of weird things about it.

Something people like you need to get through your thick, conspiracy-theory-addicted skulls, is that just because the virus seems unusual or odd to you doesn't mean it's man made.

The idea that "this is weird; therefore, it must not exist in nature" is so bizarre to me that I cannot understand your thought process about this whatsoever. It's like you heard a joke on Big Bang Theory or remembered some old low-budget thriller where someone "attaches the ebola virus to the common cold!!!" and thought it was based on scientific fact.

We cannot create viruses out of thin air. We have to use existing parts of viruses and attach them to each other, which usually doesn't work, honestly.

This virus has a unique adaptation with the spike protein that we have not seen before, meaning it's not something we could have created. We had no templates for that specific protein.

I know that's scary to you. I know you want it to be man made so that way you can imagine there's an antidote sitting out there, just waiting to be revealed. But it's not man made, it's new, it's unique, and we don't know much about it at all, let alone enough about it to make our own new version of it.

[quote] The maker of Lysol issued a statement Friday clarifying that under no circumstances should its products be administered into the human body,

Oh NOW they say so.

The doctor (@DrEricDing) at r118 is legitimate, but the person Sylvia linked to isn't.

The conspiracy theorists on Twitter have been posting screenshots of crazy theories that randos upload to medical journals, which the medical journals delete because they're conspiracy theories. But then the trolls like the one Sylvia linked to at R118 post those screenshots and say "the TRUTH is getting DELETED by the DEEP STATE!!!"

What you're reading that says the virus has a 100% fatality rate is one of those crazy conspiracies that was briefly posted to some medical journal. It's not real. These nutters are gaming the system to get screenshots that they can pass off as valid, but they aren't.

Dr. Eric Ding didn't tweet about ivermectin, but Dr. Rahul Banerjee did a while back, this may be of some help:

Ah, this is probably what Sylvia was trying to link to. The links ARE legit studies; the user @melisandrePro is a nutter. Don't follow them. But sometimes nutters post good links:

[quote] What you're reading that says the virus has a 100% fatality rate is one of those crazy conspiracies that was briefly posted to some medical journal. It's not real. These nutters are gaming the system to get screenshots that they can pass off as valid, but they aren't.

Thank you. For a moment, I was beginning to think that the end of human civilization was upon us. Now, I can go back to worrying about stupid shit.

kind of random but those models and graphic animations of the covid-19 everywhere always give me the heebie jeebies. Ick!

Ah Twitter, home of the most crazy-ass bitches in the world.

Thank you R233!

I want to see trump's voters do this.

Soon be hitting 60,000 deaths--the number Trump said would be better than 100-200K. And the number that would be the final number. After which, the Virus will disappear.

Politico:

FDA warns against hydroxychloroquine outside hospitals, citing heart risk

We're staking up 2,000+ bodies a day. We should be passing the worst regular flu season numbers by the 1st of May.

Bloomberg:

Coronavirus Kills 50,000 in U.S., Epicenter of Global Outbreak

I had no choice, r232. Dave would have left me!

That’s amazing r244

There's a bunch of them, r245.

What America needs more of, in general, is "dainty feminine allure."

Brian Tyler Cohen:

Gov. Cuomo RIPS stay-at-home protestors DURING their protest

And nylon, r247.

"If Lysol doesn't harm sensitive vaginal tissue, then surely it wouldn't hurt big thick lungs, right?"

In the interest of both-siderism, the Times made sure to point out that "SOME" experts think ingesting Clorox is a bad idea.

They then had to walk it back.

And that is why we should all be former subscribers.

AP:

Trump signs $484 billion measure to aid employers, hospitals

Trump - they're all gonna laugh at you!

Trump task force member Adm. Brett Giroir helped him pressure officials at FEMA and HHS to make hydroxy chloroquine more widely available. Here’s an email from him to FEMA and HHS officials last month:

[quote] WH call. Really want to flood Ny and NJ with treatment courses. Hospitals have it. Sick out patients don’t. And can’t get. So go through distribution channels as we discussed. If we have 29 million perhaps send a few million ASAP? WH wants follow up in AM.

[quote]We can get a lot more of this. Right Bob? Millions per week?

The FDA was willing to allow some use of it under certain circumstances but Giroir insisted on allowing wider access:

[quote]On March 28, the FDA issued an emergency use authorization (EUA) to allow chloroquine drugs from the Strategic National Stockpile to be administered to hospitalized COVID-19 patients who could not access clinical trials. The stockpile is a cache of equipment and supplies managed by HHS that can be accessed in the event of medical emergencies.

[quote]After the emergency use authorization was issued, Brett Giroir argued strongly against limiting the drugs to hospitals. “NOPE. Needs to go to pharmacies as well,” he wrote. “The EUA matters not. The drug is approved [and] therefore can be prescribed as per doctor’s orders That is a FINAL ANSWER.”

I know some of you are crushing on Brett but it looks like he’s just another patsy doing Trump’s bidding.

Full article at link

What happened to the plan Dems were drafting that gave the everyday person $2000 a month? Enough with the small business handouts.

From r251....

Having a drink before the next Trump political rally/press conference. Can't imagine watching these things sober

The UK playing with their numbers again. They are the absolute WORST in Europe in terms of transparency!

Guardian-A quick note on the latest UK death toll figures, which several readers have been in touch about.The difference between today’s and yesterday’s total number of deaths is 84 higher than the daily increase of 684 because Wales has revised its historic data. This was because one health board reported its data too late for yesterday’s daily update. So while today’s daily toll of 684 is correct, this meant the cumulative total went up by 768 to 19,506.

When stuff from The Onion comes true

Reuters:

Trump says his comments on using disinfectant inside people's bodies to fight coronavirus were sarcastic

Now Dump is claiming his remarks yesterday about “injecting disinfectants into the body” to cure Covid was him being “SARCASTIC.” Just now in a televised q & a session.

Trump is a liar. Anyone who watched his comments could tell he was dead fucking serious.

Anyone who watched his comments could tell he was dead fucking stupid.

R262. Yes he was! He only says that now due to the worldwide shock and ridicule.

Shouldn't they put something on the TV screen to let us know when he's being sarcastic? Or at least include a laugh track?

Clean out the lungs with disinfectant! Whaddya got to lose?

The quote:

“The disinfectant knocks it out in a minute. One minute. Is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside? It would be almost a cleaning. It gets in the lungs and does a tremendous number on the lungs.”

[quote]It gets in the lungs and does a tremendous number on the lungs.

I suspect it would.

Cunt needs to be drug tested. You know he was high when he said that!!!

Anderson Cooper: “He’s lying. He’s lying like a 5-year old who was caught stealing cookies.”

Isn’t it actually worse if he was being sarcastic? He’s such a fucking loser it’s unreal.

Parry ...

Could be 50,000 or 75,000 or 5,000,000. I really don't give a damn as long as my numbers are good.

Much needed levity...

The more he does these briefings, the more his approval ratings tanks. I think even his hardest hardcore base is getting nervous.

That's exactly what these "briefings" need, R265--a laugh track.

It could be a sitcom: "Oh, That Trump!"

Oh dear god...

Fox News people just need a storyline they can use. Now they are all parroting the line”he was owning the libs” by being sarcastic and seeing what the Fake News /MSM would do. In the age of Fox, whole segments of the population never hear any critique of Trump and are constantly fed storylines that dismiss his behavior. It’s hopeless.

That’s not what Brett Baer said on Fox, R279. Hopefully at least some Deplorables saw that.

Wish a White House reporter would ask him to define “sarcasm” and how can Americans tell when his public statements during a national crisis should be taken literally or sarcastically?

Trump is doing everything he can to get people back to work. You just know he was going to parade the low unemployment numbers in his campaign speeches. Now he's got NUTTIN!

Take HCL! Try injecting disinfectant! Liberate Michigan! Liberate Nevada!

It’s every scumbag’s excuse when they are called out for saying stupid/cruel things: “I was joking! You couldn’t tell because you’re stupid! You can’t take a joke!”

His fans would prefer the "sarcastic" story to be true because being an ass is better than being an insane dope. I think that's what his base is holding on to now.

the first person to get the patent for a vibrating prostate massager equiped with a ultra violet light, can make a fortune in Deploristan, pay attention Shark Tank

Did Putin give Trump a kill count he had to hit before Russia would help him fix the elections?

Uh...huh.

Yes, drinking Clorox is harmful. But to be fair, it's no more harmful than listening to the noise of windmills.

holy shit WHAT A FUCKING MORON

like a damn child he's trying to say he was just joking. No fat orange fuck, you were serious when you looked over to Dr Birx and wanted her to comment. You thought you were asking a smart question. Now you're embarrassed and trying to make us all feel like we misunderstood you STFU

Yep, sarcasm is exactly what America wants and needs right now. So inspiring! And healing!

Zero empathy, r290.

R282 People need to work, 25% of small businesses nationwide are in danger of going bankrupt in the next month. Just because you're safe and smug doesn't give you the right to shit on people who's lives are going up in smoke because of the shutdown.

Those small business wouldn’t be going out of business if Plump didn’t give out the loans to the big companies.

I have to say, I'm an "essential worker" and I've been working without PPE throughout this whole ordeal, over a month. I'm fine. My coworkers have mostly gone without masks this whole time and we haven't even had a suspected case yet. False alarms almost daily, but no one's actually been sick for more than a couple of days. At what point do I get to call bullshit on the corona paranoia?

Apparently being one of the little people gives you Covid-19 immunity.

They should be protesting for their missing $1200.

Good news, there is widespread resentment building in the deplorable communities that have been left out of the stimulus money because large companies close to the administration got all the money.

Keep bring awareness that big companies are being prioritized over poor ones.

R293, R295 Spoken like dead-eyed, spoiled, patrician cunts. "Let them eat stimulus checks!"

[quote*Just because you're safe and smug

I'm doing fine but I'm really getting irritated flipping through Colbert, Kimmel and Fallon with their millionaire celebrity guests , broadcasting from their luxury homes all chipper and having fun.

And the "heartwarming" coronavirus themed commercials from billion dollar companies with the gentle voices and soothing music. Like it's just all so wonderful.

I can't take it anymore.

[quote]Just because you're safe and smug

I'm doing fine but I'm really getting irritated flipping through Colbert, Kimmel and Fallon with their millionaire celebrity guests , broadcasting from their luxury homes all chipper and having fun.

And the "heartwarming" coronavirus themed commercials from billion dollar companies with the gentle voices and soothing music. Like it's just all so wonderful.

I can't take it anymore.

R292, the people protesting with guns and Confederate flags aren't concerned that they're out of work. They want others to go back to work so they can go to beauty parlors, restaurants, bars, ertc

Deplorables are bitter that they got left behind again by the republicans.

Meanwhile, millionaire donors are swimming in stimulus money.

R296 they'll find a way to blame Pelosi, Schumer and the Democrats

I honestly don't care about any deplorable suffering this time. Things never would have gotten so bad had Hillary been President now

R298 I'm obviously beyond fed up as well. I'm starting to see our upper middle class customers as pathetic and disgusting. They seem to perversely enjoy the apocalyptic role-playing. Meanwhile the people I've dealt with who have actual health issues seem to be completely fine with wearing a mask and gloves and behaving normally.

R294, that would be at the point when you pull that maskless routine for a month in the middle of a NYC ICU treating COVID-19 patients, and then tell the same "corona paranoia" bullshit story.

I work with hospitals in NY, CA, NV and AZ, where workers succumbing to COVID-19 is a stark reality. Where are you? Wyoming ?

Yep, r294 is a white deplorable from the middle of nowhere, who doesn't give a shit about black and brown people dying in the cities

Celebs are ‘super-spreaders’ of coronavirus fake news, study says

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 24 - 5:10 PM EST

😹 HAIRBALL AWARENESS DAY

🐷 PIG IN A BLANKET DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 2,813,538

DEATHS: 196,412

CRITICAL: 58,361

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 912,838

DEATHS: 51,607

CRITICAL: 14,932

🥂 CLOROX COCKTAIL HOUR CANCELLED ?

[quote]My coworkers have mostly gone without masks this whole time and we haven't even had a suspected case yet. At what point do I get to call bullshit on the corona paranoia?

Nice to hear from the "I've never had X disease, so X disease doesn't exist" crowd.

The CPT troll seems to get joy from the suffering.

r310 has yet to enroll in a Reading Comprehension Course.

Why would a deplorable want to be here anyway where they are not wanted. Go be with your own likeminded trash.

R309, they’re called Republicans. People who can’t imagine something is real because it never happened to them or somebody they know.

Based on that standard, here are some things that aren’t “real“ to me:

Leprosy, polio, smallpox, heart attacks, cancer, hit by cars, bitten by pit bulls, drowning in swimming pools, Al Qaeda, airplane crashes, 9/11, airplane hitting the Empire State Building, being eaten by wild bears, tornados, Hiroshima, Guantanamo Bay. None of these things have happened to me or anybody I know. So therefore they are not real and have never happened to anyone. I never saw it.

Things that are real because they happened to me or somebody I know: chicken pox, scarlet fever, measles, murder, armed bank robbery, abortion, WWII, being a POW, car theft, hurricanes, bitten by a regular dog. Those are real. Don’t have definite proof about Santa Claus one way or the other. Tooth Fairy gave me money though.

NYT: Australia and New Zealand have squashed the coronavirus curve. Australia, a nation of 25 million people that had been on track for 153,000 cases by Easter, has recorded a total of 6,670 infections and 78 deaths. It has a daily growth rate of less than 1 percent, with per capita testing among the highest in the world.

New Zealand’s own daily growth rate, after soaring in March, is also below 1 percent, with 1,456 confirmed cases and 17 deaths. It has just 361 active cases in a country of five million.

R312 .......

🤣 I'M SURE YOU WERE JUST BEING [italic] " SARCASTIC ! "

R304, that’s how the Republicans work: they exploit workers’ hostility towards the only “entitled” people they see—the upper middle class. While you are busy hating people a few rungs above you, they push through policies that benefit people who are ten rungs above you—the very wealthy, who you do not resent because you never see them.

Amnesty International USA @amnestyusa · 1m “In the name of combating the disease, some governments are rushing to expand their use of surveillance technologies to track individuals and even entire populations. These measures have the potential to fundamentally alter the future of privacy."

My brother tested positive on March 19. His wife soon followed and was positive too. Yesterday he went to donate plasma since they thought he had recovered but he had to get have a negative corona test. It came back positive. The doctor was floored. Some mild symptoms came back too- tightness in chest, cough, aches and sweats. This virus has many people and doctors puzzled.

R318: That's bad as it has been 5 weeks now....Doctors have no clue...

Patrons packing hair salons and tattoo parlors in Georgia today.

Choosing vanity over life.

R319 thanks- appreciate that. He should be good- mid 40s, no underlying health issues. Says his symptoms are mild. Doctors say it's "like shattered glass in his blood." Just hard to get out of the system. His wife goes for the plasma donation on Tuesday so it'll be interesting to see if she still has it too.

This obviously takes quite a while to get out of your system, R318. At least it isn’t possible to get infected twice.

“She was a beautiful woman.”

You know, he never came out and explained where he got the information that she was beautiful. It turns out it wasn’t even a woman.

I think that deserves an explanation.

He would have to admit he was a pathological liar. lol. That’s the only explanation.

“MILLIONS of tests”.

“Let them drink bleach!”

Quotes from the pandemic ^

“They’ll be portals where you can sign in and drive-thru testing at Walmarts”

“I am not a shipping clerk”

“Get you own damn supplies”

At this point it's not Trump's mental illness, psychopathology and dementia that's the problem, it's Mitch McConnell's, Betsy DeVos', Ron De Santis', Rupert Murdoch's...name your Republican mover and shaker who's determinedly propping up Trump in order to keep ramming forward the great Republican greed machine.

R331 add in right wing media and "journalists" who keep pumping out disinformation and try to convince everyone that no, it's Democrats and the mainstream media who are dishonest, pulling political stunts and not doing what's best for the country

I love The Onion

What deplorable shithole do you live in, R294?

"Hi, Georgia!"

The man in Georgia telling an NBC reporter that his workers are "dying to get back to work" is simply too much!

I know we are supposed to worship at the shrine of small businesses but maybe after all of this is over and we've given them a trillion dollars we need to start looking at the fact that if your business can't last one month of emergency closing then maybe your business shouldn't exist. So many businesses run on continuing loans that the entire economy seems to be a house of cards waiting for a breeze to blow. Is there such a thing as emergency closure insurance? Why don't businesses carry something like that? The entire American economy is one giant fucking bubble.

Stunning numbers from CNN's Ryan Struyk:

1 in 57 people in New York City have tested positive for coronavirus, 1 in 221 people in New York City have been hospitalized for coronavirus, and 1 in 530 people in New York City have died from coronavirus, according to data from the city and the US Census Bureau.

'The part that had me freaked out was the description of how the virus appears to shut down the immune system after initial recovery. Does this seem suspect or is it part of a valid profile of the disease? ' I think you have covid19 confused with AIDS, hon. There is nothing to suggest this at all.

CNN: Public health officials in Aurora, Colorado, ordered a Walmart supercenter to shut down Thursday after a 72-year-old Walmart worker, her 63-year-old husband, and a 69-year-old third-party security contractor for the company died from coronavirus.

Six additional employees at the store tested positive for coronavirus, the Tri-County Health Department in Colorado said Thursday. Three other workers were suspected of having the virus and were awaiting lab results.

The department said it closed the store after receiving complaints from employees and shoppers about the "lack of social distancing, too many people in the store at one time, and employees not wearing masks or face coverings."

Killer business idea, make Christmas ornaments that looks like the coronvirus virus, you will make a killing.

4/23/20

Mayo Clinic treating coronavirus patients with convalescent plasma

[quote] The Mayo Clinic in Phoenix started treating patients with convalescent plasma last week. So far, (Dr.) Adamski said patients have “tolerated the plasma very well” and they haven’t had complications.

[quote] “But it’s too soon to be able to make any definitive statements, because we just started doing the treatment,” she added. “What I can say is it looks promising so far.”

[quote] “We take that plasma and we transfuse it into the sick person, basically giving them immediate immunity against the virus through that transfer of antibodies,” she said. “The goal then is that those antibodies are going to neutralize the virus.”

[quote] People who’ve recovered from the coronavirus can sign up to donate plasma through Vitalant’s website. They must be symptom-free for at least 14 days before they can donate.

[quote] “It’s a very generous thing for our recovered patients to do because it really can potentially save a stranger’s life,” Adamski said.

[quote]People who’ve recovered from the coronavirus can sign up to donate plasma through Vitalant’s website. They must be symptom-free for at least 14 days before they can donate.

They also have to not be gay.

r341 unironically, those would sell.

Good Shabbos

In February, 52 senators voted against removing the impeached president, Donald Trump. Today, the US recorded over 52,000 deaths from the Coronavirus. These senators should be held accountable for those deaths, 1,000 each.

They can roll on Shabbos in Georgia, now!

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 24 - 11:00 PM EST

😹 HAIRBALL AWARENESS DAY

🐷 PIG IN A BLANKET DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 2,830,082

DEATHS: 197,246

CRITICAL: 58,523

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 925,038

DEATHS: 52,185

CRITICAL: 15,097

🖐️ : 😵 STOP THE INSANITY !

The US death count has increased by approximately 20,000 in one week. One week! This is catastrophic.

Drudge Report openly mocking Trump on its front page.

[quote]Mayo Clinic treating coronavirus patients with convalescent plasma

Isn't that how they cured people in the movie Outbreak?

#trumpisalaughingstock is trending on twitter! LOL

🤔 I wonder how many gallons of Clorox are stored in the secret DC underground storage facility, along with 28 million facemasks an 12 million respirators.

[quote]#trumpisalaughingstock

He's going to start nuking people soon!

Speaking of nuking, is his bestest bud Kim Jong Un officially dead yet?

Early this morning, there won't be the usual 3:00am Twitter Storm, there will be a 3:00am Killer Tornado.

I predict we’ll see that hilariously over the top North Korean anchor bitch sobbing up a storm sometime this weekend.

There were 200,000 deaths in 3 months. The virus came one night seemingly out of nowhere. It would not be stopped. People waited in line for hours for basic necessities. Toilet paper and paper towels became a valuable commodity. Leaders were suggesting drinking the Lysol and Bleach. Many more people died because they believed. When people thought the virus was gone, it overtook them again. The only way people could be safe was to hide in their own homes, or anywhere they could find. Schools closed. Churches closed..... I am so grateful for the company of DL from all over the world. Keep posting.😘

If musicians go the pay-per-view route, why should they bother to embark on costly tours?

Many restaurant owners might stay curbside pickup only. No wait-staff, no laundry, no other expenses.

I just used Insta-cart twice this week for Wegmans, got fresh vegetables, canned goods, sauces. Why should I shop in person for the rest of the year, at minimum?

I've found that Mainelobsternow (note the ending) sends delicious fresh seafood overnight. Right now there are some great sales (I've had the lobster tails, salmon, and large scallops).

IOW, businesses that are discovering deliveries and curbside, one-way aisles, and limited shopper numbers, might keep those changes.

And I predict that in some Blue states, quite a few nursing home facilities might be closed and then taken over by the state, with improved regulations.

All the aforementioned is predicated on the staying power of the Coronavirus.

Before this, I loved to shop, travel, and visit my good friend, in case anyone thinks I'm agoraphobic.

Here's that clip of Dr Birx's reaction to Donald's disinfectant injection proposal for a cure.

Notice how the camera keeps getting closer and closer to her understated but horrified reaction.

It reminds me a bit of the "Sad Affleck" video where the camera kept getting closer and closer to Affleck's depressed face, while this song played-

[quote] Hello, Darkness, my old friend.......

R322 I'm afraid it will be likely that people can catch the virus again. If COVID-19 behaves in the manner of other strains of coronavirus it is estimated that immunity will last on average 8 months for those who have contracted the virus. Of course only time will really tell how long immunity lasts but it is very highly unlikely that anyone will develop immunity once infected for more than two years at the most if they are lucky.

Its only of the reasons why 'herd immunity' is a myth and Sweden are fucking up bigtime.

I saw on another thread about Kim Jong-un maybe dead? I wonder if it was this virus.

R359 Good God, seeing that I wanted to cry.

Where's that poster who kept saying that Florida was going to be a blood bath? They're doing much better than most states.

Didn't Florida just have a big spike in cases?

Why would we trust anything that Florida reports? Even so, they still have over 30,000 cases and over 1,000 deaths. That's not "much better than most states"--8th highest number of cases, 10th highest number of deaths, and 18th per capita.

Yeah, they just added 1,000+ new cases. DL won't me post the URL.

Florida is also at least a week or two behind the more northern states where numbers have already leveled off. We'll be sending them ventilators by mid May.

I wasw in Walgreens the night before last, wearing my N95 mask. An older, fat Hispanic man came up the aisle very slowly, wearing a very loose mask. I said "good evening to him" and made room for him to pass. About 2 feet from me he suddenly sneezed violently and coughed several times into his mask. I should have shut my eyes but I just couldn't believe it. Am I done for now?

Fortunately he was both shorter than me and stooped, but the loose mask he was wearing could have deflected it up and to the side. And that's so typical of some people: he had to know he was going to sneeze some seconds earlier.

R368, RIP in peace.

RIPIP?

R368 You're fine. His hispanic coronacooties were contained by his mask. Luckily, you have a better, more expensive mask than his lest a cootie escape and come for you.

[quote]People need to work, 25% of small businesses nationwide are in danger of going bankrupt in the next month. Just because you're safe and smug doesn't give you the right to shit on people who's lives are going up in smoke because of the shutdown.

That's the fault of the virus and of the GOP who keep giving funds to their rich buddies instead of to the people and small businesses who need them.

Don't go yelling at everyday people or liberals or Democrats about this, buddy, because it's not our fault. Sometimes you have to just stop being a whiny fucking baby and realize that there's a goddamned motherfucking PANDEMIC out there and people are going to get hurt in myriad ways because of it, and there's little the regular people like you and me can do. The only people who can help are the people in government who can help with medical and scientific research, medical care, financial needs, logistics, anything else on a large scale they can organize.

Trump's not doing jack shit. That's the problem, not some guy on DL who you think sounded "smug."

R349, we're just now seeing the effects of people who got sick over Easter by going to gatherings at churches and with families. It's going to get worse next week, just as all these states decide to "open back up."

I wonder if any will back down as their numbers skyrocket as we get closer to May 1st? Probably not.

Everyone needs to be extra careful now, because there will be literally millions of Americans foolishly thinking the worst is over, and millions more forced into going back to work even if they know it's the wrong thing to do, because they can't afford to not have a paycheck. We have to be more careful to make up for those who are making the pandemic worse.

We're in a dangerous time in Australia. We all want to go back to normal but there are still way too many hotspots to relax. My bet will be end of June we can loosen up restrictions, after the second wave in mid-May.

R339 Everyone on this thread is a tragic catastrophe queen.

Apparently, 100 people have called Maryland's COVID hotline looking for advice about injecting disinfectant.

I no longer believe we deserve to survive this.

In another thread, a remarkably astute poster recounted how Trump came to power. S/he talked about how Repubs courted evangelicals and fringe groups during Clinton’s terms in order to survive, using Fox to find a low education/easily manipulated base and polarize it. Then during Obama, the underground crazy elements of the party went mainstream with the Tea Party, then became the face of the GOP with Trump. More traditional Republicans who’d cynically used the lunatics were now stuck with the monster they’d created.

That was the gist, but the analysis was more extended and thoughtful. I’ve searched through different threads but can’t find that post. I really want to read it again. It made what’s going on make sense.

Can someone who caught it link it, or that poster repost here? TIA

r377 I heard that too and thought, where were these peoples parents when they were children. Weren't they taught that you can't ingest these things. It is a miracle that the human race has even survived.

R375 The 'hot spots' in Australia are very small. North West Tasmania is now under control but it illustrates how contagious the virus is. The nursing home in Western Sydney is also under control and again illustrates the dangers of the virus.

However, Australia will be opening up VERY slowly with the ability to pull back if necessary. Also that states are between them employing thousands of extra people to do tracing, tracking, ect when any cases emerge in the future.

Also, today state Government leaders and health ministers were begging people to get tested even if they have the most mild symptoms - just a scratchy throat or runny nose will get you a test. They are not getting people turning up in droves for testing because most people are fine (i.e. don't have any colds, flus or coronavirus). Also, regular flu and colds cases have dropped dramatically.

Absolutely the virus could take off some time in the future if we are not diligent and the same applies to South Korea, Hong Kong, New Zealand, Taiwan and anywhere else in the world where they manage to suppress the spread of the virus. But at this point in time I'd rather be in Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, South Korea or Taiwan than any other country on the planet.

Fuck, even cats can now get tested in Australia because it will help track down humans with the virus.

The new Mr, Yuck

oh brother

I guess it wasn't just the libs who missed his 4D sarcasm.

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 25 - 10:10 AM EST

🐧 WORLD PENGUIN DAY

☎️ NATIONAL TELEPHONE DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 2,855,699

DEATHS: 198,532

CRITICAL: 58,304

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 926,530

DEATHS: 52,243

CRITICAL: 15,097

🖐️: CALL A FRIEND & SAY HELLO !

if anybody is wondering why there are so few replies to this thread, it's because this motherfucking site is in Primetime yet again.

Primetime already? Crazy! Isn't it still morning in most of the US?

If I'm posting, believe me, it's not in Prime Time.

My $1.99 goes to.....Oh, wait, where would I even get $1.99?

Maybe you're being singled out for [italic][Bad Behavior.

Bad 🐝 Bee Havior

WHO tweeted this morning that there is no evidence that you have immunity to CV19 after recovering from it. People who have recovered apparently often have very few antibodies.

CNN did a very heartwarming special with Sesame Street to answer children's questions in a way that isn't scary.

They still had to have Sanjay Gupta explain that it's dangerous to drink things your parents used to clean the house.

Corona has only been around for a few months.

🤔 Nobody knows Nothin'

I’m a male escort. My business has only slightly slowed down. In fact, I know that several of the clients I’ve seen utilized their corona check proceeds for our play date.

I took some precautions and utilized a forehead thermometer before each session. If they didnt have a fever, we then proceeded with a nice long soapy shower. After which, some just wanted to jerk off while watching me jerk off, which was cool. Others wanted to be held.

also, Ive tested twice negative for the virus. however, I believe now that I had a weak case in late Feb.

How much for the Boyfriend Experience?

He's tweeting about the WWE this morning.

Oh, ya, that's like way cool. . . . . . .

Silly me, I thought people were spending it on rent, bills, car payments, Rxs, and groceries.

Most people haven't even seen their checks yet.

On his income tax return, r392 lists his occupation as a "Chicken Farmer" because he raises cocks.

WHO can't be trusted. They still aren't recommending masks.

Crowds ignore social distancing rules at Southern California beaches

Coronavirus lockdowns were lifted at beaches across Orange County as temperatures surpassed 80 degrees.

Photos show some beachgoers gathered Friday in crowds that appear to violate social distancing rules.

One image shows a group of at least five young women within six feet of each other on Huntington Beach. Others show sunbathers sitting so close their towels touch.

On the north side of the beach, bikers, dogs and stroller-pushing couples swarmed the boardwalk, according to photos. Many were without masks.

Aerial shots taken from above Aliso Beach in Laguna show people stationed several feet apart on the sand below.

The images are eerily similar to those from Jacksonville, Florida, a week earlier, when hundreds flocked to the coastline after a controversial decision by the city’s mayor to reopen beaches with limited hours.

Coronavirus can live up to 72 hours on bus and subway surfaces, Cuomo says

Gov. Andrew Cuomo provided frightening new details about the durability of the coronavirus — telling New Yorkers that the virus can linger in the air for up to three hours and survive for three days on plastic and steel surfaces commonly found on trains and buses.

The startling new information may explain how the disease spread so far and wide across the five boroughs and why the Metropolitan Transportation Authority’s workforce has been hit so hard by the pandemic.

“We’ve been working on how to come up with new cleaning and disinfecting protocols,” Cuomo said, who described the findings as a “shocker to me.”

The MTA reported Friday it has now lost 84 employees to COVID-19 — 82 worked for the agency’s subway and city bus divisions. Officials at the agency said that 3,352 employees have tested positive since the outbreak began and that 3,368 staffers are currently ordered to stay home.

An MTA spokesman said that the transit agency “has been disinfecting our stations and high-touch areas twice a day and the rolling stock once a day, with the entire in-service fleet turned within 72 hours.”

More than 6,400 transit workers — mostly city subway and bus employees — have recovered and returned to work.

“It’s something we need to know, but frankly, I think it’s something everybody needs to know,” Cuomo explained. “The virus can live up to 72 hours on plastic surfaces and stainless-steel surfaces. Just think about this from a transit point of view or from your car point of view,” said Cuomo. “It can live on a pole in a bus or on a seat in a bus for up to 72 hours.”

“When they were talking about droplets, I thought it was a droplet and then it falls, right? It’s a droplet that can hang in the air for three hours,” Cuomo added. “I don’t even know how that works.”

The statistics highlighted by Cuomo in his powerpoint echo the findings of a University of California – Los Angeles study released last month.

Not only is the hardy virus hard to kill without regular cleanings, it can also be spread by people who exhibit no symptoms, making it doubly hard for officials to contain the pathogen without widespread testing.

The coronavirus has infected more than 271,000 New Yorkers and killed more than 16,000 statewide.

UK Coronavirus Update 25/4/20 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

National Evade Lockdown Day🤡

🚨148,377 cases

🚨4,913 new cases

🚨Deaths 20,319 + 813

Many of London's huge Afro- Caribbean population are ignoring the lockdown and gathering on the street to socialise. There were six outside my house today, yabbering so loudly I could hear them through double glazed windows. I nearly called the police.

London has horrendous figures with around 10k deaths for a city of 8m.

🙊 Blimey !

The pic at R397 looks fine to me. I think beaches should be open - if necessary, have monitors. It’s the most fresh air available in many places. We all have to learn to interact with diligence eventually - a beach or large public park seems like the safest place to start doing that. Simulations have shown that the ability to spread outside of closed spaces - and in sunlight - is dramatically reduced. Let’s start with beaches.

^^^ Unless it isn't.

And unless we don't.

And those are only hospital deaths in the UK for people who tested positive . They do not include people who died at home or in a nursing home with suspected cases.

The UK is also the only country not reporting the number of those who have recovered to the Worldometer site. They report 127,714 active cases, 148, 377 cases overall and 20, 319 deaths, meaning only around 700 have recovered! A true plague cauldron.

Nice think piece on the sheer fuckery ahead from our corporate and media overlords.

[quote] Until then, get ready, my friends. What is about to be unleashed on American society will be the greatest campaign ever created to get you to feel normal again. It will come from brands, it will come from government, it will even come from each other, and it will come from the left and from the right. We will do anything, spend anything, believe anything, just so we can take away how horribly uncomfortable all of this feels. And on top of that, just to turn the screw that much more, will be the one effort that’s even greater: the all-out blitz to make you believe you never saw what you saw. The air wasn’t really cleaner; those images were fake. The hospitals weren’t really a war zone; those stories were hyperbole. The numbers were not that high; the press is lying. You didn’t see people in masks standing in the rain risking their lives to vote. Not in America. You didn’t see the leader of the free world push an unproven miracle drug like a late-night infomercial salesman. That was a crisis update. You didn’t see homeless people dead on the street. You didn’t see inequality. You didn’t see indifference. You didn’t see utter failure of leadership and systems.

[quote] But you did. You are not crazy, my friends. And so we are about to be gaslit in a truly unprecedented way. It starts with a check for $1,200 (Don’t say I never gave you anything) and then it will be so big that it will be bigly. And it will be a one-two punch from both big business and the big White House — inextricably intertwined now more than ever and being led by, as our luck would have it, a Marketer in Chief. Business and government are about to band together to knock us unconscious again. It will be funded like no other operation in our lifetimes. It will be fast. It will be furious. And it will be overwhelming. The Great American Return to Normal is coming.

RR

Andrew Cuomo @NYGovCuomo I will sign an Executive Order allowing independent pharmacists to conduct diagnostic Coronavirus tests.

This will unlock a network of over 5,000 pharmacies as COVID-19 testing locations.

Social distancing measures still apply.

This will help us meet new lab capacity.

R392 is worse than Hitler by continuing to escort and endangering lives.

The NYT tested the twenty commercially available antibody tests.

Three worked.

And we still don't know if antibody titers mean anything.

[quote][R392] is worse than Hitler by continuing to escort and endangering lives.

I got blocked by a guy on Grindr for saying that I preferred to wait until after all this is over.

I’m sick of reading that having recovered from the virus doesn’t necessarily mean you’ve developed antibodies. Of COURSE it does, it’s a fundamental fact that you do. Health institutions wouldn’t allow anyone to donate plasma who was in danger of infecting the populace.

[quote]Health institutions wouldn’t allow anyone to donate plasma who was in danger of infecting the populace.

We're doing a lot "throw against wall, see if sticks" right now.

Not to mention that people getting the plasma already have COVID.

Thank you to the people of Colorado for the warm and gracious notes and letters sent to me for all of the Ventilators we got for you. It was my great honor!

Do you have a link for the NYT tests?

I'm sorry, I thought there were twenty total, but there were actually fourteen. I think I may have been thinking of the total number of virus tests.

They still mostly didn't work.

[quote]Texas mayor apologizes after violating stay-at-home order to go to nail salon

Her name is Becky. That's almost as fitting as Karen.

R412. Seriously? We don't know shit about this virus. Stop pretending that YOU do.

Jesus, STILL in fucking Primetime?! ENOUGH.

[quote][R412]. Seriously? We don't know shit about this virus. Stop pretending that YOU do.

What can I say? I have a natural ability.

We're having our first warm day in weeks in Pittsburgh, and the number of people wearing masks to walk around the neighborhood has dropped from about 40% to about 5%. Fuck them. It's going to be a long summer of not leaving my house later than 8:00am.

Over 200K "official " deaths now worldwide. For the swine flu, actual deaths were estimated to be 10 to 30 times more than the official number. And we still have a long way to go just for the first wave. There is a reason why we have 37 threads just for the freakout and countless other threads regarding this topic. This is BIG news. Maybe the story of the century. And it is happening during our lifetime. Surreal.

40 cases of coronavirus in Milwaukee County have been linked to the Wisconsin election

The USA will pass 1 million CV cases by Monday evening.

Watch out for Brazil! +357 deaths and +3500 cases yesterday and their peak is still several months away according to some estimates. I have a trip booked for Argentina and Brazil in November but it is looking less and less likely. I really hope they cancel the trip as I am not eager to travel this year. But I have to wait for them to do so. Otherwise, I lose 6000€. Crazy times...

It was fucking warm today and sooooo many people were out just enjoying the weather. Sidewalks were packed.

most people were wearing masks. a few joggers were not. CUNTS!

It was fucking warm today and sooooo many people were out just enjoying the weather. Sidewalks were packed.

most people were wearing masks. a few joggers were not. CUNTS!

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 25 - 5:30 PM EST

🐧 NATIONAL PENGUIN DAY

☎️ NATIONAL TELEPHONE DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 2,910,298

DEATHS: 202,671

CRITICAL: 58,178

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 953,158

DEATHS: 53,858

CRITICAL: 15,110

☎️ CALL YOUR ELDERLY NEIGHBOR !

R405, No offense, but it's been clear for awhile that the Big Charade, the True and Apostolic Hoax, is already upon us.

Simply the MSM-accepted phrase "Return of...." is a major propaganda tell, trying to have us believe there is some Coronavirus "Departure" happening.

"Openings in increments," pretending that somehow certain non-essential emporia can safely have employees work close to and even in direct contact with customers.

Showing Americans happily beach-combing while telling us on CNN that the virus can hang in the air. It's always the visual that matters most in advertising.

Having doctors afraid to defy a demented President saying deranged and dangerous utterances while his Press Secretaries former and current tell us that his live, on-camera words were "taken out of context" because they were "sarcastic."

None of these propaganda tactics is new for Trump.

He denied the photos of his sparse Inaugural crowd were real.

He criminally and blatantly altered with a Sharpie a NOAA weather map re: targets of a hurricane.

He has denied the official numbers of deceased Puerto Ricans from Hurricane Maria.

He claimed that he saw recent "Liberate!" protestors being careful about social distancing, when we can see that is false. Trump then just brazenly asserts that we saw fake media tidbits, whereas he saw more comprehensive visuals.

He is now denying, though again he is on videotape, that he ever called the pandemic a "hoax."

This has been, literally from Day One, the Gaslight Administration.

And they don't care how many of us die from whatever cause. They know there's more where the dead came from, lining up to apply for the jobs, and virus be damned.

The main irritant to the Ownership Class is that commerce, both licit and illicit, has somewhat halted.

Not so easy to traffic children, drugs, and weapons when the planes can't fly.

Birx has become his new #1 👄 posterior smoocher.

Today, she's trying to defend her president. He probably promised her Fauci's position.

Sorry Deb, but we can't unsee the look of sheer horror on your face as your president proposed the new Clorox Cocktails for everyone in America!

Meanwhile Italy which still has more deaths per day than the US (for it's population) will be opening factories on May 4th. People will be going back to work.

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[quote]WHO tweeted this morning that there is no evidence that you have immunity to CV19 after recovering from it.

This is bad, folks. It means that this will just keep reinfecting people until everyone on the planet is dead. It’s going to kill us all.

54K deaths now in the US. Several weeks, Trump set the final figure at 60K based on modeling. He also mentioned that the "good job" target was under 100K deaths. So what happens when we pass that mark? Will he admit that he has not done a good job? Or, will he throw everyone under the bus to save face? Oh, I wonder....

[quote]It’s going to kill us all.

It's taking forever.

It's one thing when an adult is ignorant enough to go without a face mask, but why on Earth is a "responsible" adult dragging their kid(s) around without a mask?

Masks won’t save us.

Poltico-As coronavirus cases climbed daily by the thousands and the nation entered its second month of an economic standstill, President Donald Trump latched onto a sign of hope: A pandemic model closely followed by political leaders and public health specialists projected the virus would kill as few as 60,000 Americans, a figure far below what officials previously feared. The new April forecast signaled the worst would soon be over, with some states effectively ending their bout with coronavirus as early as the end of the month. According to the model’s bell-shaped curves, hospitalizations and deaths nationwide were set to drop off nearly as quickly as they rose. Trump swiftly adopted the projection from the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation as his newest measure of success — while top administration health officials including infectious disease expert Anthony Fauci and coronavirus response coordinator Deborah Birx touted the lower figure as a clear indication the U.S. was winning its fight with the disease. “It looks like we’ll be at about a 60,000 mark, which is 40,000 less than the lowest number thought of,” Trump said during a news briefing on Sunday, April 19, adding the next day that “the low number was supposed to be 100,000 people. We could end up at 50 to 60.” That’s not going to happen. More than 50,000 Americans are dead from the coronavirus already, following several days during which the nation’s death toll routinely topped 2,000. The U.S. is now expected to blow past the 60,000 mark around the beginning of May, earlier than the IHME model had projected and with less of the dramatic leveling-off that its forecast had initially baked in. In retrospect, public health experts said, the sudden downward shift in IHME’s numbers that gave the Trump administration, governors and some health professionals the confidence to float reopening the country by summer was also a prime example of the model’s inherent limitations — and the risk of relying on any model to accurately predict how a virus that scientists are still scrambling to understand will behave in the real world.

R435 The masks don't actually do much, they're mostly for show to make people feel more secure.

If you're coughing or sneezing yourself, a mask will limit the exposure of people around you- but if you're coughing and sneezing you shouldn't be going out at all.

Today in Brooklyn:

R438, you're fucking stupid. if masks don't work, then why the fuck are the doctors and nurses wearing them?

It's another layer of protection like washing hands etc.

I have a great deal of respect for business owners who are choosing not to reopen, despite what their mayors deem safe.

Its not just coughing and sneezing that pass on the virus, even talking and breathing expel droplets.

Is Indiana the next hot spot? over 700 cases reported today with over 14,000 total cases

That reminds me that Mike Pence created an HIV "hot spot" in his state. He is Satan.

R437, use paragraphs for fuck's sake.

It's killed 54k out of 333m people, most of those over 70. The likelihood of it even killing 1m is zero.

R446 No one wants to hear good news. We want to play zombie apocalypse.

Millions will die! Corona causes pinkeye, strokes, permanent kidney damage, and ovarian cancer! My pet political cause is vindicated! Black and brown bodies! Hopefully [insert hated group] will learn to live more like I do after they die in large numbers!

r447 and the other Trumpsters want to pretend everything is okay. So they'll spin, spin, spin. They acted like 3000 people killed on 9/11 was a huge deal....but pretend it's no biggie when 50,000 people (and counting) die

Corona also caused Donald Trump to lose the teeny tiny morsel that was left of his already limited brain.

R448 The goal was to slow the rate of infection so hospitals didn't get overwhelmed at the outset.

We did it! We're eventually all getting exposed to this virus, and the majority of people won't get more than a cold. It's a lot easier to protect high risk individuals ability to stay home, and continue providing support to them, than demand the entire nation hole up indefinitely.

R450, being "exposed" to the virus doesn't prevent you from getting it again

R450, being "exposed" to the virus doesn't prevent you from getting it again

Thread disputing WHO's "no immunity" comment.

[quote] This is a false, irresponsible statement by the WHO, which will panic people in the name of not raising false hope. I will reply to this thread with evidence that infection confers at least temporary immunity

What I'm wondering is: They've now discovered that it's not just a respiratory illness; it can damage the kidneys, heart and brain and cause blood clots.

So how many of these people who just had "mild" cases and recovered actually have damage to their organs, which will make them weaker in the event they're re-infected (if you can indeed catch it again, like a seasonal flu).

If it doesn't kill you the first time, maybe it will get you the second.

[quote]It's killed 54k out of 333m people, most of those over 70. The likelihood of it even killing 1m is zero.

It's killed half a million in 4 months and who cares how old most of them are? Besides, the rates are higher than expected for younger people, including the 5 year old girl and my coworker's 26 year-old brother, both of whom had no underlying health issues but still died of COVID19 this past week. My friend's husband had it and he's only in his 30s. If I know more than one young person who's had it in my very small social circle, you can bet that the odds aren't zero that it's going to take many more lives.

'If it doesn't kill you the first time, maybe it will get you the second.'

Let's hope it kills you within the next couple of weeks, then! You must be petrified, cowering in your house while you bleach everything 700 times. Nobody can live like that, so let's hope it takes you out soon to spare you years of further trauma.

Carnegie Mellon University real-time COVID-19 indicators map. Is it meaningful data? I'm not sure, but it's fun to play with.

R446 you do realize that you can't go solely on the official numbers because testing is STILL not widely available? We have no idea how many have been infected and/or died in the US since January. We only have barely over 1% of the total population tested. Some states have over 2% many have under 1%

there could have been plenty of people in the last 3 months who died of it but were not tested

At least 150 Italian doctors have died from coronavirus From CNN's Valentina Di Donato and Livia Borghese in Rome

In Italy, at least 150 doctors have died after contracting coronavirus, the Italian Association of Doctors said on Friday.

Health care professionals account for about 10% of all infections, the organization said.

A separate Italian health care group, ANAAO, criticized the decree aimed at strengthening the health system, saying it's not good enough.

ANAAO called the measures set out in the Cura Italia decree — which is worth 25 billion euros ($27 billion) and was approved by the government on Friday — "completely disappointing."

"The additional funding provided is not enough to guarantee the remuneration of all the overtime fielded between February and March with generosity and a spirit of sacrifice by the health workers to face the tsunami of patients who poured into hospitals, hitting the health care system that has been under financed for decades," a statement from the organization said.

'there could have been plenty of people in the last 3 months who died of it but were not tested'

Yasssss R458 - your turn soooon!

It is also being reported that 30 and 40 year-olds who are asymptomatic are suddenly having strokes from blood clots.

r453, if one guy said it, it must be true!!!!

Birx is eying the HHS Sec. position after Trump fires Azar. That’s why she’s been sucking up to Trump and defending him.

[quote] It is also being reported that 30 and 40 year-olds who are asymptomatic are suddenly having strokes from blood clots.

Do you have a citation for that claim?

[quote] Do you have a citation for that claim?

I'm not R461, but you can find many articles about this by doing a simple Google search. Here is the Washington Post story:

'It is also being reported that 30 and 40 year-olds who are asymptomatic are suddenly having strokes from blood clots.'

With any luck, the tremulous doomsday fucktard at R461 will be struck down too, one of only four so far.

R464 here is an article from WA I think you can read it for free but CNN was reporting it as breaking news a few hours ago

Here is another link.

NBC News @NBCNews · 32m WATCH: Italy's air force paints the sky over Rome red, white and green to mark the 75th anniversary of Italy’s liberation from fascism in World War II, even as the city streets remain empty due to the coronavirus lockdown.

R468 don't waste your time trying to convince the denialist deplorable in this thread calling everyone who's being reasonable a "doomsday troll"

Bloomberg @business · 25m Canada shouldn’t reopen its economy until there is enough personal protective equipment for businesses to fight the coronavirus, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says

That blood clot issue has been in the news for at least 2 days, I saw the report on abc news.

Heart Damage in COVID-19 Patients Puzzles Doctors

While the focus of the COVID-19 pandemic has been on respiratory problems and securing enough ventilators, doctors on the front lines are grappling with a new medical mystery.

In addition to lung damage, many COVID-19 patients are also developing heart problems—and dying of cardiac arrest.

As more data comes in from China and Italy, as well as Washington state and New York, more cardiac experts are coming to believe the COVID-19 virus can infect the heart muscle. An initial study found cardiac damage in as many as 1 in 5 patients, leading to heart failure and death even among those who show no signs of respiratory distress.

That could change the way doctors and hospitals need to think about patients, particularly in the early stages of illness. It also could open up a second front in the battle against the COVID-19 pandemic, with a need for new precautions in people with preexisting heart problems, new demands for equipment and, ultimately, new treatment plans for damaged hearts among those who survive.

“It’s extremely important to answer the question: Is their heart being affected by the virus and can we do something about it?” said Dr. Ulrich Jorde, the head of heart failure, cardiac transplantation and mechanical circulatory support for the Montefiore Health System in New York City. “This may save many lives in the end.”

The question of whether the emerging heart problems are caused by the virus itself or are a byproduct of the body’s reaction to it has become one of the critical unknowns facing doctors as they race to understand the novel illness. Determining how the virus affects the heart is difficult, in part, because severe illness alone can influence heart health.

“Someone who’s dying from a bad pneumonia will ultimately die because the heart stops,” said Dr. Robert Bonow, a professor of cardiology at the Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine and editor of the medical journal JAMA Cardiology. “You can’t get enough oxygen into your system and things go haywire.”

But Bonow and many other cardiac specialists believe a COVID-19 infection could lead to damage to the heart in four or five ways. Some patients, they say, might be affected by more than one of those pathways at once.

Doctors have long known that any serious medical event, even something as straightforward as hip surgery, can create enough stress to damage the heart. Moreover, a condition like pneumonia can cause widespread inflammation in the body. That, in turn, can lead to plaque in arteries becoming unstable, causing heart attacks. Inflammation can also cause a condition known as myocarditis, which can lead to the weakening of the heart muscle and, ultimately, heart failure.

But Bonow said the damage observed in COVID-19 patients could be from the virus directly infecting the heart muscle. Initial research suggests the coronavirus attaches to certain receptors in the lungs, and those same receptors are found in heart muscle as well.

R470, you didn't wash your hands for 20 seconds after you handled that Amazon delivery, did you? You washed them for just 18, and a sliver of virus is still active under your thumbnail. When you eat your pizza, it will transfer into your bloodstream and your T cells will soon give up the ghost. You have around three days before your life will be ended by a massive stroke as you feverishly type '1b worldwide will die'.

In March, doctors from China published two studies that gave the first glimpse at how prevalent cardiac problems were among patients with COVID-19 illness. The larger of the two studies looked at 416 hospitalized patients. The researchers found that 19% showed signs of heart damage. And those who did were significantly more likely to die: 51% of those with heart damage died versus 4.5% who did not have it.

Patients who had heart disease before their coronavirus infections were much more likely to show heart damage afterward. But some patients with no previous heart disease also showed signs of cardiac damage. In fact, patients with no preexisting heart conditions who incurred heart damage during their infection were more likely to die than patients with previous heart disease but no COVID-19-induced cardiac damage.

It’s unclear why some patients experience more cardiac effects than others. Bonow said that could be due to a genetic predisposition or it could be because they’re exposed to higher viral loads.

Those uncertainties underscore the need for closer monitoring of cardiac markers in COVID-19 patients, Jorde said. If doctors in New York, Washington state and other hot spots can start to tease out how the virus is affecting the heart, they may be able to provide a risk score or other guidance to help clinicians manage COVID-19 patients in other parts of the country.

“We have to assume, maybe, that the virus affects the heart directly,” Jorde said. “But it’s essential to find out.”

Gathering the data to do so amid the crisis, however, can be difficult. Ideally, doctors would take biopsies of the heart to determine whether the heart muscle is infected with the virus.

But COVID-19 patients are often so sick it’s difficult for them to undergo invasive procedures. And more testing could expose additional health care workers to the virus. Many hospitals aren’t using electrocardiograms on patients in isolation to avoid bringing additional staff into the room and using up limited masks or other protective equipment.

Still, Dr. Sahil Parikh, an interventional cardiologist at Columbia University Irving Medical Center in New York City, said hospitals are making a concerted effort to order the tests needed and to enter findings in medical records so they can sort out what’s going on with the heart.

“We all recognize that because we’re at the leading edge, for better or for worse, we need to try to compile information and use it to help advance the field,” he said.

Indeed, despite the surge in patients, doctors continue to gather data, compile trends and publish their findings in near real time. Parikh and several colleagues recently penned a compilation of what’s known about cardiac complications of COVID-19, making the article available online immediately and adding new findings before the article comes out in print.

Cardiologists in New York, New Jersey and Connecticut are sharing the latest COVID-19 information through a WhatsApp group that has at least 150 members. And even as New York hospitals are operating under crisis conditions, doctors are testing new drugs and treatments in clinical trials to ensure that what they have learned about the coronavirus can be shared elsewhere with scientific validity.

That work has already resulted in changes in the way hospitals deal with the cardiac implications of COVID-19. Doctors have found that the infection can mimic a heart attack. They have taken patients to the cardiac catheterization lab to clear a suspected blockage, only to find the patient wasn’t really experiencing a heart attack but had COVID-19.

For years, hospitals have rushed suspected heart attack patients directly to the catheterization lab, bypassing the emergency room, in an effort to shorten the time from when the patient enters the door to when doctors can clear the blockage with a balloon. Door-to-balloon time had become an important measure of how well hospitals treat heart attacks.

“We’re taking a step back from that now and thinking about having patients brought to the emergency department so they can get evaluated briefly, so that we could determine: Is this somebody who’s really at high risk for COVID-19?” Parikh said. “And is this manifestation that we’re calling a heart attack really a heart attack?”

New protocols now include bringing in a cardiologist and getting an EKG or an ultrasound to confirm a blockage.

“We’re doing that in large measure to protect the patient from what would be an otherwise unnecessary procedure,” Parikh said, “But also to help us decide which sort of level of personal protective equipment we would employ in the cath lab.”

Sorting out how the virus affects the heart should help doctors determine which therapies to pursue to keep patients alive.

Jorde said that after COVID-19 patients recover, they could have long-term effects from such heart damage. But, he said, treatments exist for various forms of heart damage that should be effective once the viral infection has cleared.

Still, that could require another wave of widespread health care demands after the pandemic has calmed.

An interesting article about whole species can be wiped out from disease.

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 25 - 11:05 PM EST

🐧 WORLD PENGUIN DAY

☎️ NATIONAL TELEPHONE DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 2,921,201

DEATHS: 203,289

CRITICAL: 57,863

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 960,896

DEATHS: 54,265

CRITICAL: 15,111

☎️ CALL YOUR GRANDMA !

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 25 - 11:05 PM EST

🐧 WORLD PENGUIN DAY

☎️ NATIONAL TELEPHONE DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 2,921,201

DEATHS: 203,289

CRITICAL: 57,863

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 960,896

DEATHS: 54,265

CRITICAL: 15,111

☎️ CALL YOUR GRANDMA !

Here is a good interview from a couple of urgent care doctors in California discussing the numbers.

What’s interesting is many people aren’t going to the er, or even their doctors because they are scared to get covid. Not good.

So I'm thinking of calling the next thread The First Horseman.

Of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, the first is pestilence/plague. Any objection or better idea (not you, Mistress of Evil)?

Isn't OP the creator of "Mistress of Evil"

R481: Well, we already have the white horse (Antichrist), pale horse is next (Covid-19, death)...then comes black horse (famine) and red horse (war). Out of Revelation order, but possible!

One reason I believe the WHO put out that grossly irresponsible statement about the virus not necessarily providing immunity is because they’re freaked out at the prospect of millions recklessly trying to get infected and hopefully achieve immunity. As a result many thousands more would die, fueling even more rage at China, which the WHO obviously has sought to protect for months. Come on, do the math.

It's not "reckless" to say the virus doesn't necessarily provide immunity. It's true.

...OR it is true.

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R485, then why are the ones who have “recovered” allowed to provide plasma? Why is Tom Hanks’ fucking blood being used to help provide a vaccine. Enough of your fucking fear mongering. At the very least it provides SOME immunity.

[quote]This is bad, folks. It means that this will just keep reinfecting people until everyone on the planet is dead. It’s going to kill us all.

I wish you fucking alarmist idiots would just shut the fuck up. You do not know what you are talking about. Even if you are not provided 100% immunity from a prior infection, you will have some immunity, and therefore a lighter course of the disease just like every other disease on the planet that can reinfect a host organism. Go look up immune system memory cells. You may not have active antibodies running through your blood but you will have memory cells that will ramp up your immune response much more quickly upon reinfection.

r491, they're experimenting. They don't know anything for sure. Go away, deplorable

R492 is triggered lol! We are not going to STFU because we don't share your opinion! Welcome to DL😘

R494 Why don't you just kill yourself now and get it over with?

You first - you miserable fuck😘

R496 It's really going to get ugly...red eyes, sores, rashes, your blood turns to molasses, your lungs fill up, the kidneys go, clots, strokes....that's what you have to look forward to. It won't be pretty.

Those beach photos are mostly telephoto lenses, so they look more crowded than they are. Also people were told that sun and ultra violet radiation kills the virus. But more than that, social distancing is against human nature and an inappropriate response. Masks for everyone was the appropriate response but our "leaders" failed us. Remember, everyone knew New Orleans' levees would break in a hurricane and that one would come, probably soon, but nobody did anything. SImilary, everyone knew since 2002 when SARS and later MERS appeared, that these deadly viruses would cause a global pandemic. Nobody did anything. Everyone knows that within 50 years, accidents at nuclear power plants will render much of the nation uninhabitable, but once again nobody does anything. There was a 100% probability of these things happening in the near future but nobody did anything and two of them have now happened.. This will be truly remembered as the Age of Stupid.

America has apparently voted in the last couple of days and we're doing the herd immunity strategy.

Yeah, when did everyone decide they were going to do whatever they want?

My apt complex has a pool and there were four bims around it today, making a shit ton of noise. I went to report them and found out it's our building manager and her friends, none of whom live here.

We must go on living our lives and not just staying stuck in neurotic fear. That’s not a life worth living!

I’m a GWM Generation X. I usually engage in sexual encounters with gay white millennials. The past two months my regular millennial fuck buddy has been locked up in his tiny one room studio apt, too afraid to even go outside, much less see anyone or have sex. And most of the millennials I encounter online share this same neurotic, doomsday fear.

So I’ve needed to get my sexual needs met elsewhere and has resulted in me blowing a handful of straight guys who have the balls to be bold and brave. (Thankfully to my benefit). Which is cool for now, I guess. But I’m missing having some nice tight hole to fill.

At a given point, it’s like “enough already” and we will need to return to living our lives.

Just a reminder as we seem to have a division troll infestation.

[quote]a handful of straight guys who have the balls to be bold and brave

Oh yes, that's what they are.

Thank god they have you to help them express their boldness and bravery.

R502 Elderlez, I've been here since the first "Coronavirus Freakout" thread. I have an opinion you disagree with, I'm not out to get you. I am fed the fuck up with the overwrought coronavirus theatrics and I get to say so 😘

Also, we all need humility when discussing things that are unknowable at this time. And I include myself in that admonishment

If Dr. Birx removed the scarf, would her head fall off?

Sometimes I've had to disagree with myself R504 (sadly on Kaletra for instance.) If you aren't the person repeatedly wishing death on other posters, and I am guessing you are not, I am not referring to you. You might have him or her blocked and unable to see the posts.

Test post

[reply to 506]. Nancy’s scarves are usually Ferragamo, Hermès etc. Dr Birx look more along the lines of TJMax, Ross.

Sorry, R508 was me. I'm having trouble posting a link to an article from last month about Italian doctors also dealing with the strokes and clotting. For whatever reason, DL hates the link, so here's an excerpt.

[quote] Alessandro Pezzini, MD, associate professor of neurology at the University of Brescia, and his colleagues have already opened a neuro-COVID-19 unit to separate patients from others who have acute neurologic events without signs of the coronavirus. There, on the 18-bed unit, patients are being treated for stroke, delirium, epileptic seizures, and non-specific neurologic syndromes that look very much like encephalitis, said Dr. Pezzini. And they are fighting the COVID-19 virus. While it is not clear whether these neurologic syndromes are a direct cause of the virus entering their central nervous system (CNS), or an indirect response to the viral storm in their bodies, neurologists in Brescia are reaching out to colleagues throughout Italy to warn them to look out for acute neurologic complaints in their sick patients. "There is a change in the neurologic patients we are treating," said Dr. Pezzini. "There is a dramatic increase in the number of vascular events, ischemic strokes, and thrombosis, which is likely due to the virus affecting coagulating mechanisms."

Ugh. This shit just makes me feel suicidal.

R510 Awful news. Just confirms the reports from New York about the same things the other day. Healthcare workers and researchers are clearly to overwhelmed with this that as time goes on more disturbing information will unfold.

The pure evil the christo-fascist rethugs have done to this country is a tragedy of epic proportions:

"GREENPORT, NY — A man well-known for his work on the North Fork as a tiling subcontractor died at home last Saturday of the new coronavirus because he reportedly had no insurance and did not want to go to the hospital and face daunting medical bills — and possible questions about his legal status.

Don Chuz, said Greenport business owner Brent Pelton, was "afraid to seek medical care because of his immigration status and because he lacked insurance and was afraid of the cost."

Jorge Gomez, owner of JG Quality Construction, spoke with Chuz the day before he died, and urged him to seek medical treatment but "he refused to go to the hospital," Pelton said

Sign me up!

CNN-Belgians are being asked to eat an extra portion of frites each week during the coronavirus pandemic in a bid to help Belgian potato producers, who risk destroying surplus stock due a slump in demand caused by restaurant closures. The campaign is being led by Belgapom, the country's association of potato producers. Its director, Romain Cools, told CNN that he hopes that by encouraging Belgians to eat more frites at home it will, "enable our processors to avoid food waste by processing more potatoes and store them in our freezers -- which are nearly full now." Belgians typically eat frites once a week, but mainly outside their homes in friteries or restaurants. Coors said this is "contrary to other countries like the United States, where fries are often a side dish for their meals."

Let me see how many frequent flier miles I have.

Belgium threw some shade! People in the US are fat asses who eat fries with every meal.

True. nearly 80% of Idaho potatoes are processed for restaurant fries/homefries/mash. Food production is far more focused on restaurants in the US.

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 26 - 10:50 AM EST

👽 NATIONAL ALIEN DAY

🎠 HELP A HORSE DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 2,943,583

DEATHS: 203,917

CRITICAL: 57,630

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 963,472

DEATHS: 54,357

CRITICAL: 15,110

🖖 THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE !

Fries with every meal? Not true! Sometimes I enjoy a fully-loaded stuffed baked potato, or homemade mashed potatoes mad with real cream and butter, topped with equally delicious homemade gravy.

And how about some great home fries with eggs and bacon for breakfast? Or do you prefer hash browns?

Oh sure, the Canadians eat their fries covered in cheese and gravy and we're the pigs.

Overly optimistic projections are leading to foolish decisions, which in turn are leading to more deaths.

A few weeks ago, the IMHE projected we might have as few as 60,000 U.S. deaths total through August. But that projection assumed that a lockdown would remain in place and the number of deaths would start falling dramatically once we had reached the peak. Trump and the GOP governors seized on that rosy projection to say things won't be as bad as first thought and we should start reopening. But reopening businesses invalidates the model and ensures there will be far more than 60,000 deaths.

We will never be able to conquer this if every time there is an optimistic forecast, we respond by loosening restrictions -- especially when the optimistic forecasts are built on the assumption of NOT loosening restrictions.

I've lost weight since the outbreak...while others appear to be getting fatter. huh

From South Korea: Patients who tested positive for novel coronavirus after recovering from their first bout of the illness appeared to be far less infectious the second time round.

More than 180 such cases have been reported so far in South Korea but none were found to have infected anyone else.

"The virus in the relapse cases have little to no infectiousness,” Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director Jeong Eun-kyeong told a briefing.

Me too, R520, but it is because I am losing muscle mass from not walking 5 miles a day.

Me three. I like the number on the scale, but while also feeling doughy and weak it also makes me angry.

I walk daily but haven't hiked in a while. need to do yoga and stretching and home workouts but hard to do, for me, when in the house....I like my comfy bed. also diet is pretty limited. I'm 32 and over 6ft so its really showing.

Medical Group Says FEMA Confiscated Masks And Left Them Sitting In A Shipping Container

Me four, though I chalk it up to anxiety.

R522, here again.

I live in a rural Trump town currently, where very few people walk in the good times, no one is out right now, and the walks I have taken have had partial police escorts. I am a 40 something gay man, and having the cops slowly drive behind me for a mile is still terrifying, even if I understand they are probably just bored.

I have a Russian Blue homeless cat who has become besotted with me and trots behind me when I walk, since the shut down. She's lovely in her devotion, but I do not need more eccentricity points here, and I worry because she's elderly.

Ugh - this guy on MSNBC said the USA has reached a plateau of 30K new cases per day. Yet, there were 35K new cases yesterday... Statements like that work for low information people who get their news from TV only. However, other people, who are looking at the daily stats, can see for themselves where the numbers match-up and not.

R527 adopt the kitty.

It will be the best thing when this is over.

R527 Do it you know you want to.

Japan’s island of Hokkaido acted quickly and contained an early outbreak of the Coronavirus with a lockdown.

But, when the governor lifted restrictions, a second wave of infections hit even harder

26 days later, the island was forced back into lockdown

Thanks, R521. That's the first bit of encouraging news I've heard for a while. Enduring immunity sounds problematic (very iffy) but, if that info. you posted is correct, at least the idea of limiting new infections via lockdowns will help to limit the damage from this pandemic.

[quote]All patients have been discharged from the USNS Comfort, the hospital ship docked in New York Harbor. It has treated 182 patients.

182 patients.

Guess it’s better to be over prepared than under.

The WHO has deleted their recklessly irresponsible tweet.

You fear-mongering motherfuckers can mosey on over to the nearest grease fire.

R534 just linked to a right-wing site.

Is the “Mistress of Evil” supposed to be referring to Sr. Birx?

R535, who the fuck cares, moron. The point is the tweet’s been deleted. Or are you capable of grasping that point?

Don’t click on r534. They will probably scrape your info and share it with god knows what other deplorable sites.

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 26 - 5:45:PM EST

👽 NATIONAL ALIEN DAY

🎠 HELP A HORSE DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 2,987,703

DEATHS: 206,712

CRITICAL: 57,583

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 983,783

DEATHS: 55,341

CRITICAL: 15,135

🗣️ WEAR A MASK !

⏳ CORONA TIME - APRIL 26 - 5:45:PM EST

👽 NATIONAL ALIEN DAY

🎠 HELP A HORSE DAY

🌎 GLOBAL

CASES: 2,987,703

DEATHS: 206,712

CRITICAL: 57,583

🇺🇸 UNITED STATES

CASES: 983,783

DEATHS: 55,341

CRITICAL: 15,135

🗣️ WEAR A MASK !

No one beats Trump for disturbing tweets.

The OP of this thread is the one attacking people on this thread. Use Ignore-dar.

Now wait a minute. Why is this deplorable trash allowed to wreak havoc in here and continue posting?

FF the troll and all the sock puppets.

Use Ignore-dar, and you will see that the Corona Poll Troll slipped up and used three different account to post his cutting & pasting of stats. So, he's using different accounts to bash Biden, praise Trump, mock flattening the curve and all sorts of dissent.

His "stats" are posted on three different accounts.

You guys are being played and falling for it.

ElderLez, the Corona Poll Troll is the one who was fighting with you. Did you know that? Not so nice, is he?

He is a dissent troll.

🤣Jealously looks so good on you, OP............

It's a perfect fit !

Here's part 38.

Quote, and a new poll: who/what do you blame for the pandemic?

Im done with this series of threads until the deplorables are ff’d

The new thread has a poll where the Trump fixated can vote to blame him for the pandemic.

^^^ Cheerio !

Russian Blues are beautiful cats with lovely temperaments, which cost hundreds of pounds to buy. You should adopt her. Many cats live into their 20s without any health problems.

30th anniversary of LONG TIME COMPANION. First viewing in about 15 years, and it's more relevant than ever.

The quackery, the inadequate PPE and hospitals, the lack of knowledge, the obsessive cleaning, the randomness of attack: it's all there.

AXIOS: The White House plans to shift its coronavirus messaging toward boosting the economy and highlighting "success stories" of businesses, reducing its public emphasis on health statistics,

The Coronavirus Task Force — and the doctors who've become household names, Deborah Birx and Anthony Fauci — "will continue but take a back seat to the forward-looking, 'what's next' message,"

Won't last long, R552, after almost the entire south starts dying en masse. To Trump: Go, South, you old fat fuck!

Can someone authenticated start part38? We need someone we can trust.

That's distressing news R544.

Sylvia? You’re up!

The OP of Thread #38 is the SAME OP of this thread, and several other threads. He pretends to be a loyal All-American Democrat, but in reality he's just a 🍈 Limey British Imposter who can be easily located by his trail of toast, baked beans, biscuits, and bangers.

Isn't that right, matey?

Liar, liar ......... We all know how to use the ignore button.

Brian Tyler Cohen:

Anderson Cooper breaks down on air in heartwrenching segment with COVID widow

Bajour yet? Maybe not.

💫 [italic] Sylvia, You Go Gurl . . . . . .

You're A DL *** Shining Star ***

Thanks all. The Russian Blue is scheduled to see the vet tomorrow. She will sit on my lap, so I think I can get her into a carrier. I've named her Rosie, as in "Goodbye to Rosie the queen of Corona/ See you, me and Julio Down by the school yard". I will post a picture when I can.

I just found out today that a project I've been working on for the past three years which was put on hold from finishing is now on hold indefinitely and that NYC will not be re-opening any time this year.

I decided today I'm giving the world another month to figure this shit out and then I'm out of here permanent-like. I'm not made for jail.

New clinical trial at U Minnesota

And R561, I love you and Rosie the Queen of Corona!

Some good news: Trump will stop the daily propaganda briefings.

It looks like Covid Freakout 38 is already redlined.?.

What professional area is your project in, R562? Something social involving big groups?

It involves education

It'll come back eventually, R567. People need to start trying to take a longer view. Did the country stop doing anything related to education after 1918? No. Give it a year or so. America is so focused on the 'right now'. No long term thinking. It's like a nation of toddlers, which explains self-centered, 'the world revolves around me' Repugs. It's one of its worst qualities.

This particular opportunity won't, unfortunately, and i'm not trying to be coy. I just can't spell it out because I'm trying to stay anonymous. But I very much appreciate you trying to bolster my spirits. Thank you.

Just don't off yourself or anything, R569. Remember, long view.

R565 Loon OP deserves it. What's the etiquette in this situation? Keep using redlined thread? Begin a new thread? Why doesn't Muriel give us a handbook?

IOW, r552, Trump wants to promote Fake News.

R562 is "giving the world another month" to solve Covid-19.

Somewhere, a virus is laughing.

Really r573? I read that as him planning on killing himself. (Thus “permanent”)

R562 hey, you could at least volunteer for one of these human vaccine trials. Scientists need your body!

Serious question for everyone. I go out alone for a daily walk, weather-permitting. Social distancing is possible. Should I still wear a mask/face-covering?

R576 Yes. The more people wear masks the better off we'll all be in the long run.

Thanks, R577. I have an N95 mask but find it uncomfortable and reserve that for food shopping trips. I'll wear a bandana as a mask for walks. Looks like I'll be able to get my walk in today. Fingers crossed it doesn't rain before 6 pm.

I told you Trump couldn't hold put with Cuomo getting all the attention. The briefings are back on.

So is there a proper #38? And is Kim Jong-un dead yet?

Maybe Kim Jong Un-Dead?

I saw photos on Twitter of a conspiracy theorist waving around a sign declaring that Obama was behind COVID-19 because "Barack Hussein Obama" has 19 letters.

Count the letters and see if you can spot the the flaw in this.

Obviously it should have been Hillary Diane Clinton.

And Barrack Hussein Obama was behind COVID-18.

In the worldwide race for a vaccine to stop the coronavirus, the laboratory sprinting fastest is at Oxford University.

Oxford scientists now say that with an emergency approval from regulators, the first few million doses of their vaccine could be available by September — at least several months ahead of any of the other announced efforts — if it proves to be effective.

Now, they have received promising news suggesting that it might.

Scientists at NIH’s Rocky Mountain Lab inoculated 6 rhesus macaque monkeys with single doses of Oxford vaccine. The monkeys were then exposed to heavy quantities of the virus — exposure that had sickened other monkeys. But more than 28 days later all six were healthy.

The Doomsday Troll won't like that, R585.

Pence has caught the lying bug from Trump. He said COVID will be over by Memorial Day.

UK will have the highest death # in europe. They are in deep shit and yet Piers Morgan is talking about USA. Why can't these english cunts talk about their own shitty country? I'm sick of these fuckers who talk shit about how bad USA is blah blah blah...

Talk about your own shitty country! Leave us alone!

UK will have the highest death # in europe. They are in deep shit and yet Piers Morgan is talking about USA. Why can't these english cunts talk about their own shitty country? I'm sick of these fuckers who talk shit about how bad USA is blah blah blah...

Talk about your own shitty country! Leave us alone!

I think USA will have at least 100K deaths when this is all said and done.

r579 Scheduled at 5:00 PM. He needs an audience so he must be going through withdrawal.

Wasn't there some good news concerning an already extant and therefore pre-approved drug that treats the virus effectively? I can't seem to find the thread.

To clarify, it's a treatment, rather than a vaccine, but it seemed to kill the virus or at least wall it off in 48 hours.

[quote]Wasn't there some good news concerning an already extant and therefore pre-approved drug that treats the virus effectively? I can't seem to find the thread.

Plaquenil failed, remdesivir appears to have also failed.

R588/589 😵 Geez, take a freakin' pill, Yankee Doodle.

Preliminary results from antiviral drug trial could come in a week, says researcher

From CNN Health’s Arman Azad

Preliminary results from clinical trials of an experimental antiviral drug for coronavirus could come in a week, a top researcher said Sunday.

The final test results for the drug, remdesivir, aren’t expected until mid-to-late May, said Dr. Andre Kalil, a principal investigator for the trial. But he said the team might “potentially have some early data in the next one or two weeks."

Remdesivir was originally tested by Gilead Sciences as a potential treatment for Ebola, and it showed activity against the novel coronavirus in test tubes. But whether the drug is an effective treatment for Covid-19 remains unclear.

The new study, sponsored by the National Institutes of Health, is a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial -- meaning neither the patients nor their doctors know who is receiving the real drug and who is receiving a placebo.

Patients finished enrolling for the study last Sunday, Kalil said, adding that their number had exceeded the target of 572.

The trial began at the University of Nebraska Medical Center, where Kalil is a professor of medicine, but it has expanded to nearly 70 sites around the world, from South Korea to Germany.

Data on remdesivir is confusing at best. Earlier this month, the maker of the drug, Gilead released information on 53 patients, most of whom showed improvement after receiving infusions of remdesivir.

Information leaked to STAT News suggested that patients receiving remdesivir were recovering quickly, but the report was based on a recorded discussion of a clinical trial, and offered few details.

Last week, the World Health Organization accidentally published a summary of results from a trial of the drug in coronavirus patients. A screenshot published by STAT showed "remdesivir use was not associated with a difference in time to clinical improvement."

But that trial was terminated early due to low enrolment, and Gilead said it was inconclusive.

Preliminary results from antiviral drug trial could come in a week, says researcher

From CNN Health’s Arman Azad

Preliminary results from clinical trials of an experimental antiviral drug for coronavirus could come in a week, a top researcher said Sunday.

The final test results for the drug, remdesivir, aren’t expected until mid-to-late May, said Dr. Andre Kalil, a principal investigator for the trial. But he said the team might “potentially have some early data in the next one or two weeks."

Remdesivir was originally tested by Gilead Sciences as a potential treatment for Ebola, and it showed activity against the novel coronavirus in test tubes. But whether the drug is an effective treatment for Covid-19 remains unclear.

The new study, sponsored by the National Institutes of Health, is a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial -- meaning neither the patients nor their doctors know who is receiving the real drug and who is receiving a placebo.

Patients finished enrolling for the study last Sunday, Kalil said, adding that their number had exceeded the target of 572.

The trial began at the University of Nebraska Medical Center, where Kalil is a professor of medicine, but it has expanded to nearly 70 sites around the world, from South Korea to Germany.

Data on remdesivir is confusing at best. Earlier this month, the maker of the drug, Gilead released information on 53 patients, most of whom showed improvement after receiving infusions of remdesivir.

Information leaked to STAT News suggested that patients receiving remdesivir were recovering quickly, but the report was based on a recorded discussion of a clinical trial, and offered few details.

Last week, the World Health Organization accidentally published a summary of results from a trial of the drug in coronavirus patients. A screenshot published by STAT showed "remdesivir use was not associated with a difference in time to clinical improvement."

But that trial was terminated early due to low enrolment, and Gilead said it was inconclusive.

Preliminary results from antiviral drug trial could come in a week, says researcher

From CNN Health’s Arman Azad

Preliminary results from clinical trials of an experimental antiviral drug for coronavirus could come in a week, a top researcher said Sunday.

The final test results for the drug, remdesivir, aren’t expected until mid-to-late May, said Dr. Andre Kalil, a principal investigator for the trial. But he said the team might “potentially have some early data in the next one or two weeks."

Remdesivir was originally tested by Gilead Sciences as a potential treatment for Ebola, and it showed activity against the novel coronavirus in test tubes. But whether the drug is an effective treatment for Covid-19 remains unclear.

The new study, sponsored by the National Institutes of Health, is a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial -- meaning neither the patients nor their doctors know who is receiving the real drug and who is receiving a placebo.

Patients finished enrolling for the study last Sunday, Kalil said, adding that their number had exceeded the target of 572.

The trial began at the University of Nebraska Medical Center, where Kalil is a professor of medicine, but it has expanded to nearly 70 sites around the world, from South Korea to Germany.

Data on remdesivir is confusing at best. Earlier this month, the maker of the drug, Gilead released information on 53 patients, most of whom showed improvement after receiving infusions of remdesivir.

Information leaked to STAT News suggested that patients receiving remdesivir were recovering quickly, but the report was based on a recorded discussion of a clinical trial, and offered few details.

Last week, the World Health Organization accidentally published a summary of results from a trial of the drug in coronavirus patients. A screenshot published by STAT showed "remdesivir use was not associated with a difference in time to clinical improvement."

But that trial was terminated early due to low enrolment, and Gilead said it was inconclusive.

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[quote]Thanks, [R577]. I have an N95 mask but find it uncomfortable and reserve that for food shopping trips. I'll wear a bandana as a mask for walks. Looks like I'll be able to get my walk in today. Fingers crossed it doesn't rain before 6 pm.

A bandana has a ridiculously low rate of effectiveness, though, less than 10%. Maybe attach a couple layers of paper towels under it.

You do have to register, but if you are in southern California-specifically Carson area-they are offering free drive up testing, even if you are not sick.