Trump Suspending Immigration due to Coronavirus

I'm actually happy to hear about this.

Our country can't afford to take on any more dead weight.

Still, you just know that he will make exceptions for his "friends."

Can somebody say "Desperate?"

Yeah, the stupid fuck is grasping since he knows he fucked up beyond repair. The staged protests, the racist dog whistling, and now this. Biden has him shitting his underoos.

He’ll walk this back in the coming days like he has everything else that he’s said that’s arguably unconstitutional. Wasn’t he going to force congress to adjourn a few days ago? The media really is complicit in the entire trump mess. They give him exactly what he wants.

Good.

Seriously.

Orange Monster did something good!

Agree. This is good.

LOL. Most Americans who get it are catching it from other Americans, not immigrants.

The virus is here. This is nothing more than another distraction by Trump who has fucked up ever step of the way since he was told about the virus in December. He was recklessly incompetent and lied about and mismanaged everything. He only cares now because he's been caught. And actually, he still doesn't care unless it affects his reelection campaign. Trump makes so much of his closing of the border to China. Problem is: the virus was already here, and 40,000 people entered the country from China after the borders were supposedly closed. Trump is a bigoted lying criminal asshole.

[quote] Most Americans who get it are catching it from other Americans, not immigrants.

But what if we don't want any more immigrants?

We have too many people here already.

Lou Dobbs posting at r9

The US is still going to need immigration. But let's make it for people who are vetted and have skills that the country needs.

[quote]Most Americans who get it are catching it from other Americans, not immigrants.

Yes, we know that.

I'm surprised he waited this long. I thought he'd do this weeks ago.

[quote] The US is still going to need immigration

No we don't.

The U.S. is the 4th most populous country in the world, with 330,000,000 people.

We're fine.

r13 will be picking the fruit himself

Give me a break, R14.

The fruit pickers are already here.

And when the economic collapse hit, believe me that many more Americans will be willing to pick fruit.

We won't need outsiders to do it for us.

So he's going to close the borders in Mexico. But won't close the beaches in Florida? At least the Mexicans will be safe.

Shut it down now. Use the excess airplanes to ramp up the deportations and take advantage of the cheap gas with a fleet of buses to drop people onto the other side of the border.

My husband applied for a green card a year ago. We have been legally married for 7 years. I moved back to the US last year for work reasons. Now we may not be allowed to live together legally in the US indefinitely. Fuck all of you who think this is a good idea.

Next time marry an American, R18.

Btw, the world doesn't revolve around you.

R19. STFU.

[quote]And when the economic collapse hit, believe me that many more Americans will be willing to pick fruit.

I wouldn't be too sure of that. Many Americans, like their Western European counterparts, have a ridiculous sense of entitlement. White Americans will expect the "colored folk" to do their fruit picking.

I read this week that the UK had to have a bunch of Romanian farm workers flown in to pick their fruit and vegetables because, despite the current economic situation, most Brits aren't willing to do the job.

He did nothing good, he never has, even by accident.

“Invisible Enemy” is this a clear admission that it was biological warfare?

Finally does something right.

He needs to suspend immigration from China.

PERMANENTLY.

[quote]And when the economic collapse hit, believe me that many more Americans will be willing to pick fruit.

So, millions of Americans - formerly employed as flight attendants, waiters, bartenders and shop bottoms - are going to suddenly pick up sticks and move to central California, Florida and Washington state to pick fruit for minimum wage and no benefits?

Uh-huh.

[quote] So, millions of Americans ... are going to suddenly pick up sticks and move to central California, Florida and Washington state to pick fruit for minimum wage and no benefits?

Remember the Civilian Conservation Corps? That’s exactly what happened. Also, there will be plenty of fruits of vegetables for those close to the farms and orchards to pick themselves. It’s only the lazy people in the cities who will have to do without.

Technically since the borders were already closed, immigration was halted. So this is an empty gesture to rile his base. Also since the USA appears to be in corona free fall at the moment, its not exactly an appealing destination unless you're a bug chaser.

Per CNN at least, legal agriculture and healthcare workers are exempt, so you whiney bitches will still get your avocado toast.

I can't think of who would want to come here unless it's because of family or because of desperation to harvest broccoli. Seriously. I would safely bet that immigration is way down. He's a pig trying to satisfy his base and throw red meat out here. Thank Steven Miller and Brad Parscale.

But think about this for a minute: He uses an executive order to ban immigrants; he incites violence by using armed "protesters" to bully governors into prematurely lifting the quarantine. He not only withholds desperately needed medical supplies from the governors, he sends goons in to confiscate medical supplies from governors. He and his cronies have pocketed billions in stimulus money, and he knows that thousands more people will DIE because of his efforts. So our economy is weak, our healthcare system is strained to breaking, and we are more isolated than ever even as we sicken and die. Who benefits from a weakened, isolated, chaotic USA? Cui bono?

Don’t far for it. Immigration will carry on as usual because republicans love cheap labor by the millions.

Thread closed.

R18 I sympathize. I am in a similar situation with my husband.

Why is there a second thread on a topic that was just a distraction to begin with?

You people are so gullible.

There is no cancellation of immigration anyway.

What you should focus on is where all the supplies wen and who profited from the lack of supplies. Kushner? Blotus? pence?

Eyes on the ball.

Kushner won't be pleased if this is true.

"Last year, Kushner’s sister, Nicole Meyer, touted her brother’s White House role as she urged Chinese investors to fund a New Jersey housing development through the EB-5 program. EB-5 offers foreigners green cards — permanent residence — in exchange for investing $500,000 in certain U.S. businesses that create at least 10 jobs per investor."

I bet if Trump was a rancher he would close the door after the horse already got out of the barn.

Those supplies tho.

R30 You rangski.

[quote]I wouldn't be too sure of that. Many Americans, like their Western European counterparts, have a ridiculous sense of entitlement. White Americans will expect the "colored folk" to do their fruit picking.

Black Americans ain't gonna pick no fruit either!

Trump's had at least two long phone calls with Putin in the last couple of months including one the media reported as lasting almost two hours.

Looking at that picture of Jared at R35, he looks terrified. Really. Look at his eyes. He's dangerous. A sniveling coward with a mean streak.

There are 20 million unemployed Americans and a devastated economy. We don't need immigrants and won't for a longtime.

R42, yeah, well who did you think was working in the food processing and the agricultural industry?

What about all the missing supplies? Is someone making a profit off of FEMA supplies?

Where are they?

The country is already closed.

This suspension is just for the xenophobic nut jobs in his base.

What does that have to do with anything R43?

Predictable response, 45. You are so blind in your hatred, you can no longer think rationally.

Yes they're making profit from supplies. FEMA and DHS are out here trying to literally intercept shipments at airports. Governors have had to pick up their supplies in food trucks or personally go to the airports to get them as the planes landed. I think that was in Illinois. and MAssachusetts. We have thugs, literally mobsters running our government. This is brazen and ugly. Governors have to compete with the feds, then after paying, and arranging 3rd party shippers, they have to literally stand guard to secure the shipments when they arrive. Now why would Trump go to all that trouble? Is he so deranged (yes) that he is desperately groveling in the dirt so he can use medical supplies as political chits? Playing politics with medical supplies? And very probably taking a cut off the 3rd parties who resell? He is such a small, despicable POS.Why is Kim Jong Whatsis in NK at death's door? Why? And we have to watch Orange Mussolini every fucking day?

[quote] Governors have had to pick up their supplies in food trucks or personally go to the airports to get them as the planes landed.

Links R47 or it didn't happen.

The nutjob in me was thinking about how the conspiracists warned that the PTB would stage a false flag "alien invasion" sometime in the future to gain full compliance and control. Maybe corona was their plan all along. we're basically under martial law now I wonder how much freedom we'd give up and what we'd tolerate going forward just to get out again?

[quote] Remember the Civilian Conservation Corps

Exactly.

FDR instituted the CCC because so many people were out of work during the Great Depression.

There will be another Great Depression after this coronavirus lockdown.

"You are so blind in your hatred, you can no longer think rationally."

Coming from a Trump defender....

We need to get back to work. At what point does a chance with death .01% for those under 50 hospitalized become eclipsed by the living stress of people lacking money to eat, pay rent etc?

We had a domestic disturbance recently and a police officer was killed. There is an uptick in domestic violence.

I don't think people can handle too much more of this.

There' enough low-hanging fruit here on Datalounge.

This suspension will hit the tech industry.

[quote] The U.S. is the 4th most populous country in the world, with 330,000,000 people.

[quote]We're fine.

R13 has had sufficient.

[quote]R13 will be picking the fruit himself

And why not? I used to do it every Friday night at Studio 54.

I bet he goes after the foreign language shows on Netflix next!

[quote] Problem is: the virus was already here

And stupid rears its ugly head once again. With the lack of testing, and so many asymptomatic carriers, who would think it would be a good idea to let more people in the country?

He should have done this weeks ago and ban interstate travel as well.

Too late. Months and months too late.

r52, if you want to get back to work, apply for an essential job. I hear the Trump administration is hiring.

This affects very few Americans, so no one cares. Millionaires will have to wait out the shutdown & make do with the Eastern European whores they have now.

A broken clock is right twice a a day.

Wait until Cletus and Brandine find out they can't get unemployment as long as there are fruit-picking jobs available.

R63 and Trump are both broken (stupid) clocks

The only people allowed in the country are Eastern European women under 30.

I don't think it is due to the Coronavirus but the unemployment and economic devastation we will be dealing with for at least a decade as a result of this pandemic.

R21, you sound mentally ill.

It will be very interesting to see a Karen take over the job of a Consuela.

s[quote]It will be very interesting to see a Karen take over the job of a Consuela.

Middle class people used to clean their houses all the time, and it was no big deal. The kids were required to help. Somewhere along the way, everybody became an entitled cunt and housecleaning was beneath them. When I was growing up in the 80s/90s, most middle-class households did not have a cleaning lady who came in.

[quote] I don't think it is due to the Coronavirus but the unemployment and economic devastation we will be dealing with for at least a decade as a result of this pandemic.

What in the hell are you talking about?

The pandemic IS because of the coronavirus, moron.

R71, I was trying to be gentle.

[quote] Middle class people used to clean their houses all the time, and it was no big deal.

You’re an idiot. Yes, mothers used to clean house before everyone had to become a two income family and now mothers work full time.

Uh both my parents worked in the 70, 80s and they made us kids clean the house.

R73 yes, the misguidance of feminism.

[quote] I read this week that the UK had to have a bunch of Romanian farm workers flown in to pick their fruit and vegetables because, despite the current economic situation, most Brits aren't willing to do the job.

What fruits & vegetables are in season now?

r73 I grew up in the 80s and 90s and most mothers worked. They still cleaned their houses, and the kids were required to help. That was before everybody became a spoiled, lazy cunt who thought housework was beneath them.

This is a classic Trump move

Tweet something vague and broad that gets his base all fired up. Tweet delivered late at night or early AM when anyone who might point out the impossibility of it is still asleep.

Then, in the light of day, and on advice from the few sane people who have access to him, he pulls back tremendously, allowing his supporters to blame "libtards" and GOP "NeverTrumpers"

Now he's threatening to "shoot down" Iranian boats, because "Look over there! Iranians! Don't think about coronavirus my little Deplorables! Iranians!"

FWIW, even the WSJ editorial board, which usually has its tongue up his ass, ripped him a new one over immigration.

LOL

Middle class people still clean their own houses.

DLers forget that they've moved up a notch on the class scale and now mostly know upper middle class people, who have always relied on cleaning women and housekeepers.

Another cold move, instilling fear of mothers being separated from children, spouses separated from each other. Imagine how many people are scared of this now, little kids going to sleep crying because their mom might have to leave. All Conservatives and Republicans are complete fucking scum, NAZIS. A bunch of retard daughter-fuckers.

"... the political desk of the Times still cannot honestly come to terms with the news it’s supposed to cover. This institution, following its institutional imperatives, would rather prop up a racist and incompetent presidency than tell the truth about it."

Send the Slovenian Slut Cunt back!!!

Agree R81

NYT and CNN are so wrapped up in avenging their perceived slights they forget the cardinal rule of trolls which is to ignore them.

Instead they try and offer rational rebukes to Trump's irrationality and thus just sound like all they're saying "TRUMP IS BAD. LOOK WHAT HE JUST DID" over and over again, rather than just ignoring him or letting it go in passing.

Imagine how furious he'd be is the NYT story said "Last night, Impeached President Trump tweeted "blah blah blah immigration.." But nobody takes him seriously at this point." and that was it-- two sentences.

He plays them like a virtuoso

[quote] Then, in the light of day, and on advice from the few sane people who have access to him, he pulls back tremendously, allowing his supporters to blame "libtards" and GOP "NeverTrumpers"

You got the concept right, but not the facts. The people who have access will undermine the directive on behalf of the big money donors who want cheap labor, not for any “moral” reason. The leadership in both parties want illegals for different immoral reasons. Also, the supporters know very well that the enemy within is the moneyed interests and will appropriately blame them.

r79 stop talking about things you know nothing about.

In this instance for sure, R84

But overall, they keep having to remind him he can't do things that he claims he can (e.g., order governors around)

This allows his base to believe that Trump wants to do whatever outrageous thing he tweeted about but that he's held back by the "Deep State" -- they blame that nebulous concept which, depending on the deplorable, probably includes moneyed interests as well, though many deps do have money.

[quote] Another cold move, instilling fear of mothers being separated from children, spouses separated from each other. Imagine how many people are scared of this now, little kids going to sleep crying because their mom might have to leave.

Have you never watched the show Cops? People being arrested and separated from their spouse and children happens every day across the country.

[quote] he's held back by the "Deep State" -- they blame that nebulous concept

The book by Anonymous helped make that much less nebulous for anyone who didn’t understand it.

BREAKING NEWS: Proclamation Suspending Entry of Immigrants Released Today 04/22/2020

President Trump has, after much speculation and misinformation, signed the Proclamation Suspending Entry of Immigrants Who Present Risk to the U.S. Labor Market During the Economic Recovery Following the COVID-19 Outbreak.

In summary, the proclamation did not bring major changes to the current immigration status. All the proclamation reads is that people cannot apply for employment-based immigrant visas at consulates and embassies for 60 days from April 23, 2020 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time, except for some classes of visas and people discussed below.

As of today, all consulates and embassies have suspended and cancelled visa interview appointments. In any case, what this proclamation does is making the closure of consulates and embassies for visa interviews more official.

The following people can still apply for immigrant visas outside the U.S. as long as consulates and embassies reopen and start accepting visa interview appointments:

any alien seeking to enter the United States on an immigrant visa as a physician, nurse, or other healthcare professional; to perform medical research or other research intended to combat the spread of COVID-19; or to perform work essential to combating, recovering from, or otherwise alleviating the effects of the COVID-19 outbreak, as determined by the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or their respective designees; and any spouse and unmarried children under 21 years old of any such alien who are accompanying or following to join the alien;

any alien applying for a visa to enter the United States pursuant to the EB-5 Immigrant Investor Program;

any alien who is the spouse of a United States citizen;

any alien who is under 21 years old and is the child of a United States citizen, or who is a prospective adoptee seeking to enter the United States pursuant to the IR-4 or IH-4 visa classifications;

any alien whose entry would further important United States law enforcement objectives, as determined by the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or their respective designees, based on a recommendation of the Attorney General or his designee;

any member of the United States Armed Forces and any spouse and children of a member of the United States Armed Forces; any alien seeking to enter the United States pursuant to a Special Immigrant Visa in the SI or SQ classification, subject to such conditions as the Secretary of State may impose, and any spouse and children of any such individual; or any alien whose entry would be in the national interest, as determined by the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, or their respective designees.

This proclamation can be reviewed and extended after 60 days.

Even though his proclamation is not an impactful as we expected, it explicitly reads that the Secretary of Labor and the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall review nonimmigrant programs and shall recommend to me other measures appropriate to stimulate the United States economy and ensure the prioritization, hiring, and employment of United States workers.

Foreign nationals with work visas and applying for work visas might still be subjected to a suspension in the future.

So - marriage-based Green Card applicants exempted.

r1, let's see you pick fruit 10 hours a day in the heat with no benefits and low pay. We'll see what kind of "dead weight" you are.

How can a Karen do Consuela's job when she has a Venti Caramel Latte on one hand and the iPhone with Pinterest and Yelp on the other?