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Oxford’s finest: Morse … Lewis … Endeavour

I’m an elder Millennial and grew up watching Colin Dexter’s Inspector Morse starring the brilliant John Thaw (“voted the most handsome man on television”) with my parents. We used to love to find the Colin Dexter cameos. As they were some of the few VHS tapes we owned, they were thoroughly rewatched so often that by the time Lewis came about I wasn’t interested. But by the time Endeavour turned up with Shaun Evans and Roger Allam, I was back on the bandwagon.

One thing that’s pretty funny is the American women online who started off watching Lewis or Endeavour, crushing all the time on Lawrence Fox and Shaun Evans, then go back to Morse and become horrified at how cynical Morse is, not realising how the show pioneered that kind of serious character study in a TV procedural.

Some of the Morse episodes especially stand among the very best in television history. Last week I caught up with the tragic Second Time Around episode, featuring the cold case in which Morse discovered the body of a young girl. It which featured a baby Christopher Eccleston and at least 2 Star Wars alumni. it’s probably my favourite ever Morse episode.

The good vibes makes we want to binge the lot and I may as well start with Lewis, as I have seen the least of it, and now is the perfect time to do it.

I’m open to suggestions about which best. I’ve seen and love the episodes with James Wilby and Jenny Seagrove and seen and loathe the one with Joanna Lumley.

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by Anonymousreply 36May 2, 2020 11:56 AM

I love Morse too, especially the earlier ones. The Lewis episode "And The Moonbeams Kisses The Sea" is a favourite of mine.

by Anonymousreply 1April 20, 2020 6:19 AM

OP, I remember my parents watched Inspector Morse on our local PBS every Sunday evening. I had no interest. Now, I want to start at the beginning and work my way through the series. Great binge suggestion - do you know where / if the series is available?

by Anonymousreply 2April 20, 2020 6:25 AM

To my mind the first two seasons of "Inspector Morse" were never bettered. I watch them every few years and they never get old: "The Dead of Jericho," "The Silent World of Nicholas Quinn," "Service of All the Dead," "The Wolvercote Tongue," "Last Seen Wearing," "the Settling of the Sun," and "Last Bus to Woodstock." Later seasons were OK, but these were the best written and the most beautifully directed (Anthony Minghella directed the great pilot "The Dead of Jericho").

Later episodes could be good, but they usually overdid the comedy of the Morse/Lewis shtick and skimped on the existential sense of dread felt in the early episodes. The murders began to seem too much like silly games played by rich people (like in Agatha Christie) rather than acts of genuine evil.

by Anonymousreply 3April 20, 2020 6:28 AM

Thanks r1, I'll check that. Great title too.

I'm in Australia, r2, but I find Just Watch very helpful for streaming availability. If you're American, you're in luck for s1 of Morse on Amazon Prime and all of it on Britbox

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by Anonymousreply 4April 20, 2020 6:30 AM

OP / R4 Thank you! I have Amazon Prime and just added S1 to watchlist and will watch episode 1 tomorrow morning. I've been looking for something new to get me through the next 30 days of 'self-quarantine'.

by Anonymousreply 5April 20, 2020 6:43 AM

Laurence Fox's shenanigans have made Lewis unwatchable for me. Pity, as some are very good.

by Anonymousreply 6April 20, 2020 8:50 AM

One of the sweetest things I ever saw was the early (first? can't remember) episode of "Endeavour" when, towards the end of the episode Shaun Evans checked his rearview mirror in the iconic auto and they flashed John Thaw's face. Goosebump stuff.

by Anonymousreply 7April 20, 2020 3:22 PM

R7 that was the pilot of Endeavour where his superior asked him where he saw himself in 20 years time. Great stuff.

by Anonymousreply 8April 20, 2020 4:45 PM

I bought the complete box set of Inspector Lewis last year from shop.pbs.org. Plan on starting the binge watch this Saturday. Unlike most people at the DL, I really enjoy Laurence Fox. I especially enjoyed his performance as Lord Palmerston on Victoria

Cannot wait for Season/Series 6 of Endeavour which I think starts sometime next month on PBS.

by Anonymousreply 9April 20, 2020 4:54 PM

I'm going to read Last Bus To Woodstock. Or listen - there is an audiobook narrated by the reliable Samuel West.

by Anonymousreply 10April 23, 2020 3:30 PM

I was recently remembering the episode where Morse was being stalked. And the stalker tweaked his car alarm and, I believe, his home stereo system, so that opera blared from inside his flat, and his car's alarm wouldn't stop beeping for days, because he wasn't home.

by Anonymousreply 11April 23, 2020 3:40 PM

R11 - That seems like a whole lot work on behalf of the stalker.

by Anonymousreply 12April 23, 2020 3:43 PM

Both series are on Britbox, as well as 2 of Thaw's earlier series. Love The Sweeney.

by Anonymousreply 13April 23, 2020 4:04 PM

R11 that is a preety sinister episode. He also rigs Morse's tapes up to set fire to his house and Murders Morse's mentor and dumps the corpse in his hotpress!

by Anonymousreply 14April 23, 2020 5:12 PM

I was walking through Soho sometime in the late 90s, turned a cornered almost bumped right into John Thaw. I watched Morse religiously and, yes, thought he was very handsome. Needless to say, I all but stopped in surprise. I’m not one of those people who collar actors etc in the street but he still gave me the best ‘ Don’t you come near ! ‘ glare. Shorter than I imagined.

by Anonymousreply 15April 23, 2020 5:28 PM

I lose interest halfway through. I’m more of a Jane Tennison fan.

by Anonymousreply 16April 23, 2020 5:29 PM

Fans of Laurence Fox will want to see his very impressive full frontal scene in The Hole.

by Anonymousreply 17April 23, 2020 5:32 PM

R17 - Is it worth paying see or just worth seeing?

by Anonymousreply 18April 23, 2020 5:37 PM

Depends how anxious you are to see the goods. Movie itself is OK. Not great.

by Anonymousreply 19April 23, 2020 7:37 PM

R19 - I was asking about the goods.

by Anonymousreply 20April 23, 2020 7:39 PM

As I said—very impressive.

by Anonymousreply 21April 23, 2020 7:41 PM

Here

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by Anonymousreply 22April 23, 2020 7:42 PM

Not as impressive as I remembered, but imagination can play tricks with memory.

by Anonymousreply 23April 23, 2020 7:46 PM

I remember taping this on VCR in the early 2000s as a teenager and wanking to the freeze frame of him shaking his big cock.

by Anonymousreply 24April 23, 2020 7:54 PM

Watched a documentary of Thaw on YouTube. Comments from family, friends, actors, and crew. He was apparently a very lovely man; his mother walked out on the family when he was about 12 and it messed him up, trust wise. But he comes across in the comments as a sweet man who was immensely talented but didn't think he was that great. Worth watching. One of the best bits, the positive, loving comments by his first wife (and mother of Abigail, who appears in later episodes as the editor).

by Anonymousreply 25April 23, 2020 8:20 PM

He was a huge alkie

by Anonymousreply 26April 23, 2020 9:16 PM

He was a huge alkie

by Anonymousreply 27April 23, 2020 9:16 PM

I started watching it when I lived in Japan and didn't have access to US tv. Morse is still great. I could not get into Lewis and I thought Endeavour was pretentious.

by Anonymousreply 28April 23, 2020 9:17 PM

I thought the solutions to the murders on Lewis were preposterous......then I saw Endeavor. I can’t even think of the right word for how ridiculous they are. And I notice Endeavor often ends with a radio broadcast in the background about a significant event that just happened (in order to let the audience know what year it is) and they are mostly events in the US, like space race, MLK assassination.. Do they have radio broadcasts announcing things that happened in the U.K. at the end of the U.K. version of the episodes?

by Anonymousreply 29April 23, 2020 9:28 PM

"Morse" was by far the best of the three series, in large part due to Colin Dexter's writing, since he made Morse such a complex and interesting character (and his plots were so much more clever than the ones the TV writers dreamed up on their own--I recently saw 'Service of All the Dead" again and was taken by how fiendishly complex the murder plo is). Lewis was conceived of as a counterweight to Morse, and so was purposefully less cerebral, less conflicted, and less moody--the British adored him, and saw him as one of their own, and so took him to their hearts, which is why the "Lewis" series was so popular with them, even though he was not objectively a strong enough character to carry a series.

"Endeavour" has been much better than "Lewis," but not as strong as "Morse." It is almost inconceivable than Shaun Evans could grow into the same character as John Thaw played: his Morse is not dark enough nor narcissistic enough nor as temperamental. It's as if he's playing someone with much the same interests (nice cars, opera, and pretty women), but with a different personality. So i pretty much take him as a different character altogether. many of the episodes are quite well done, particularly when they emphasize period detail; some of the plots though have been absolutely ridiculous, such as ghe one with the serial killer who based his murders on the plots of operas, or the one with the tiger in the hedge maze. I do like Shaun Evans (even though he is nothing like John thaw either physically or as an actor), and I really like Anton Lesser as his superior.

by Anonymousreply 30April 24, 2020 5:57 AM

Anton Lesser is marvelous. The contrast between his roles on Game of Thrones and Endeavour impressed me greatly.

I love Endeavour, but probably because I'm crushing on Shaun Evans. It's pretty hard to match the original series, between John Thaw, Anthony Minghella and Danny Boyle. When I watch old episodes, the only thing I dislike is Morse's wardrobe; it looks quite dated.

by Anonymousreply 31April 24, 2020 1:20 PM

R30 great post. The best Lewis episodes were the early ones which referenced the Morse connection. They also tried to make Lewis a more dark character by killing off his beloved wife Val, thus removing his secure homelife and making him sadder but the series became a chore as it went on.

The best Morse episodes tended to be one's based on the Colin Dexter novels, he was very good at creating plots for his complex hero.

by Anonymousreply 32April 24, 2020 5:02 PM

I saw the Lewis episode with DL Fave John Light and set in Jericho and referenceing Oedipus, it made a brief mention of the Morse 'pilot' The Dead Of Jericho which made the same literary references.

It was a good episode but like another I saw (can't remember the title off the top of my head but it starred Juliet Stevenson) it doesn't make a whole lot of sense why he first major murder occurred (other than to get the story going).

Laurence Fox constantly badmouthed Lewis, although he liked Kevin Whately he found it boring and tiresome and it is very unlikely he would make a series of HATHAWAY. I like Lizzie. She could star in MADDOX with Hathaway retired from the Force to become an Oxford don at Lonsdale College. Her DS would of course be an awkward, moody wunkerkind with a PhD in art history - I'm picturing a ginger.

by Anonymousreply 33April 26, 2020 5:15 PM

Is there Morse/Lewis erotic fan fiction? that would be unbelievably creepy.

by Anonymousreply 34April 29, 2020 6:51 AM

R34

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by Anonymousreply 35April 29, 2020 7:03 AM

Lewis does get progressively worse. By season 4 half the episodes have preposterous murders. I'm thinking of the religious themed one with Sorcha Cusack in a supporting role. Appalling.

by Anonymousreply 36May 2, 2020 11:56 AM
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