The Meghan & Harry Show - This week delivering food in LA

It's the Greatest Show On Earth

Stay. Home.

But they cannot possibly stay home, r2. They are NEEDED in the ultra impoverished slum of WeHo, don't you see?

Merchie left with the nanny again. Stay home you have a baby you don't need to spread germs to.

From the DM comments: “Photo credits are backgrid, the same outfit that happened across Meghan in the Canadian woods with the lifeless Archie strapped to her. Backgrid is Meghan's pap agency of choice. All staged PR and very predictable.”

Very predictable. Except for the security cam as a stand-in for the paps. Clever. What was involved in getting that footage? Someone had to contact the apartment building management to get hold of it: It’s property of the landlord. Law enforcement can’t even get that, half the time, when there’s been a crime. But the footage of these two, multiple vantage points? Immediately released.

*sniff sniff*

What’s that smell? Smells kinda stunt-y...

Yes and Meghan needs to keep referring her to sheet of instructions:-

1. Approach the gated area and confidently press the buzzer for number 7 and wait.

2. Astrid from Sunshine Sachs Social Media department will be in flat number 7, after you buzz, she will wait 6 seconds and then buzz you in.

3. We have sent a video to His Royal Highness Prince Harry's phone giving an aeroplane style instructional video in how to open and close a gate. Please make sure that he watches it, as we don't want any slip ups like him trying to shut the gate with his leg.

4. When we release this it will be as "discovered CCTV footage". We are not sure if all the worlds CCTV footage is filmed with an audio commentary of someone watching, we will check this as we have hired a voice actor to do the 'member of the public' amazed persona on the 'secret footage'.

5. The blue bags will be filled with polystyrene blocks so they won't be very heavy.

6. The actor we have hired to open the gate has appeared in 'CSI Miami' and 'Law and Order' as impoverished characters. He is the best gate opener in the industry.

7. The street will be completely cleared, however we will be situated in the adjacent street. Hair and Make-up, catering, wardrobe and full crew will operate from this street.

8. We have secured over 10,000 blue face masks from supplies allocated by the city of Los Angeles for hospital and medical staff only, These 10,000 masks will be sufficient for all of us to wear and replace every 2 minutes.

9. We appreciate this is a horrible task, but we don't predict the delivering of the actual 'food' parcel scene will take any longer than 15 minutes.

10. Simone the personal stylist hired for this shoot, did receive your suggestions for your wardrobe, but Simone feels a couture Gucci gown is perhaps a little dressy for a role of delivering food to needy people. Instead, she has watched the footage you supplied of Princess Diana and the landmine visits and we think you wearing the same style of dress for this visit (which let's face it is equally dangerous) would be the most effective.

They wanted to make a difference in their new neigbourhood. Pure desire to help. This was not nor getting attention.

Bravo, r6, Bravo

Meanwhile here in the U.K. the RF has done nothing as far as donating or physically volunteering. We love the Queen but the rest can go away. We pay for their lifestyles and they literally do nothing.

R6, that was excellent.

R7, that is NOT their “neighbourhood”. Although there seem to be plenty of cameras; MM probably feels at home there.

[R6], copyright that. Before they do. It's beyond brilliant. I'm going to make a screen shot and photoshop in kittens and puppies.

What bollocks, r9. The newspapers are full of Will and Kate's repeated 'visits' to their patronages, of Fergie packing up hundreds of packages of food for NHS workers and most importantly the Queen's message, which was incredibly important to people suffering from this even outside of Britain and the Commonwealth.

R6. I was tempted to also put:-

11. We have secured the rights to Simon & Garfunklel's 'Bridge Over Troubled Water' to play over this footage on the 'Fan made' You Tube video will be uploading next week.

R9 - Really? You need to check on how many millions William's call for donations to the National Emergency Relief fund pulled in. It's quite a bit more than the Harkles' pitiful "donation" of 90,000 quid not one penny of which was theirs, but belonged to the BBC - which had a similar arrangement with the Cambridges and the Wessexes for revenues connected to their royal wedding broadcasts. The Harkles, now private citizens, couldn't cough up 10,000 of what is, in fact, Charles' money, to make the BBC donation an even 100,000.

It's also quite vulgar for the royal family to broadcast how much money they've donated. If they have done so, they know better than to advertise it. It's fine for George Clooney and the Duke of Westminster, but not for the royals. They most likely have but aren't crass enough to make a photo op out of it.

Meanwhile, Eugenie was delivering food boxes weeks ago, the Cambridges and the Queen did what was appropriate in their sphere on the reaching out front.

You can make quite good arguments for abolishing the monarchy without resorting to accusations that they aren't doing things that, in fact, they really shouldn't be doing given the security risks - something the Harkles, of course, are oblivous to as they drag their security team along for a couple of one or two hour rides on all of two mornings, making sure a video of them doing so gets up there.

The part where Harry coughs in his hand and wipes it on his shirt is definitely off-script.

There's some serious shade in the DM advertisements playing before the video footage of Harry and Meghan delivering food. I saw one for a bipolar medication and another for California Psychics.

No Meghan, we still see right through you.

Laughably contrived random act fame whoring.

"If we can bring a little joy into your humdrum lives, it makes us feel as though our hard work ain't been in vain for nothing. Bless you all."

-- Lina Lamont

So Lady Bountiful.

The reality is that these two cause more disruption to the existing operations of such organizations compared to the actual work they do.

While it might be worth it for the PR value and visibility, their actual contribution has nothing whatsoever to do with the "work" they're doing.

Meanwhile, the people who've been doing it day-in and day-out for weeks, months, or even years are ignored and forgotten to spotlight the attention seeking, image rehabilitation efforts of these two.

Considering their recent travel history and M was most definitely not following social distancing in Britain, were they screened/swabbed before being allowed to play the great humanitarian roles?

Just fuck off and go far, far away already....

Prince Harry, Meghan caught on camera delivering free meals in Los Angeles

I love that it takes BOTH of them--not just one--to deliver the package.

Apologies to all. My elderly father has been having quite a time recently with his COPD. He had an “atypical flu” during the holidays, and, now I can’t help but wonder if it were an earlier Covid-19. Please forgive me if I am just not in the mood for fools.

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Such grandstanding scum.

She's the crazy bitch leading her tard pup and calling him "Big Man" while his family breathes a sigh of relief she's now an ocean away on the edge of another.

Charles had better not let them back when/if he's king. They are the Windsors.

Now if only Andrew would have an accident.

Links to the Fail, well, fail: R27's link takes us straight to Wills and Kate. The Fail article seems to show that the Harkles are driving a Kia, FFS; in fact the Kia hides their Porsche SUV. Anyone recognize the neighborhood?

They’ve never said they wanted privacy for themselves, only privacy for their baby.

Can’t you racist loons leave them alone?

It's as if they Meghan wakes up every morning, turns to Harry, and says, "I've figured out a new way to make people disdain us even more!"

Wtf are you on about saying Meghan wasn’t practising social distancing in Britain?? Meghan hasn’t stepped foot in the UK since long before social distancing rules went into affect.

At least make your lies vaguely plausible.

On the other hand Will and Kate endangered NHS staff and promoted ignoring social distancing just for a cheesy photoshoot (the photoshoot WAS done after the social distancing rules came into effect, and Will and Kate had recently returned from travelling so certainly should not have been shaking hands with nurses!), they travelled to their second home which is against government advice, and Charles flew to another country after he got ill with Coronavirus and flew to a part of Scotland that Nicola Sturgeon specifically told non-locals to stay away from.

No wonder most Brits despise the current royals.

Sorry, gang. Need to sign off. Making supper.

Wonder how Mr Markle is doing during this pandemic.

R25 Well , those to are weirdly attached to each other and seem incapable of doing things separately . At least they're not holding hands here .

R32 - Kaiser, is that you?

Kate and William did not remotely endanger the Call Centre workers. They didn't shake hands, didn't sit close to them, used hand sanitiser, and publicised the work they are doing.

If anyone endangered anyone, it was Meghan and Harry bringing their security platoon out so the Sussexes could get themselves a cheap staged shot that they pretended wasn't. At least the Cambridges were there precisely for photographs so the work of the Call Centre could be publicised.

Because Backgrid recorded the security camera screens, r5. I doubt Markle was behind this, more like whoever has access to the security camera thought they could make some easy money, and they did.

[quote]No wonder most Brits despise the current royals.

Most Brits don't despise the current royals, idiot at r32. We do, however, think that Markle is full of shit and that Harry has fucked up bigtime.

[quote]Can’t you racist loons leave them alone?

Yup, just keep playing that race-card and ignore their despicable behavior!

Did you go to Trump University and take Distraction101? You must have been at the head of the class!

The photographer, Jeff Rayner, is the same one Meghan's dad used for those staged pap shots he got caught out in. You know, the ones Meghan used as an excuse to cut him off and not invite him to the wedding. SAME guy. She's so dumb it's breathtaking.

R36 But I thought there were no meany tabloids and paparazzi in the US . Meghan told me so .

How many people does it take to ensure that Markle gets her publicity shots? Did Harry drive? Did they have security?

[quote] How many people does it take to ensure that Markle gets her publicity shots?

How many people have to die?

They are the new Speidi

I did it first and the best it's ever been done.

[quote] They wanted to make a difference in their new neigbourhood.

But they don't and won't live anywhere near West Hollywood.

If they wanted to help people in a poor LA neighborhood, it would have been different had they gone to a poor black neighborhood or a poor Hispanic neighborhood. It still would have seem somewhat cringeworthy in its air of [italic]noblesse oblige[/italic] ("Greetings, peasants! We royals are here!") and in the clear fact that this is a publicity stunt (otherwise they would not have done it together so as to be readily identified as a team). But they didn't: they went to WeHoville, hoping that would stir up support among gay men because they know gay men are fascinated by royalty.

OP, you are worse than Hitler. Fuck right off.

Those bandannas look so retarded. They couldn’t find a couple of regular masks?

I so want to hang out with R6.

From now on, I believe I shall refer to the Sugars as the Aspartamines. Fake, flat and a poor substitute for the real thing. Breaks down under heat. May cause headaches.

R47 - They look like they're headed out to rob the stagecoach.

"Duke and Duchess of Sussex deliver food to most critically ill during lockdown in West Hollywood"

There is no end of spin on this story.

They are utterly vile in their exploitation of their 'perceived' 'Royal' status.

Utterly vile and should be shunned by everyone.

So many connections to SoHo House. Guess who is on the Board of Trustess of Project Angel Food?

None other than Ronald Burkle.

And your point is R53?

*INTP eye roll*

If the Sussexes really want to do charity work instead of profiting from public shows of altruism, then they would have down what Princess Anne is doing and has been doing for her entire life. This video tells a little about why Anne is the model Royal especially then type of royal that the Sussexes go ad nauseam about wanting to become.

TMZ has pap shots them out and about delivering more food.

No good deed goes unpapped.

Harry's getting fat. Time for the caftan soon.

I expect that r53's point is that Meghan's PR likely were able to manipulate the angelfood people to work through all the 'completely coincidental exposure' nonsense.

The pictures at R57 made me curious about something. You can tell that Meghan has a very thick midsection, almost a beergut, and big hips/thighs. Yet in that tight blue Beckham dress she didn't look that fat. Is it some kind of magic undergarment (Spanx?) or did she put on weight since moving to LA?

She's letting it hang out and intentionally wearing fattening outfits so she can get some of that sweet, sweet, "She's preggers!" free publicity, r60

A Not So Royal Narcissit - Part 15

R60 Meghan's body has always been oddly shaped even pre-pregnancy. No matter how much weight she loses she'll only look thin when she turns sideways. Boxy shoulders and wide ribcage, nonexistent waist. Squarish round hips and thighs. Her childhood photos show she's naturally pudgy like her dad, but her body build takes after Doria.

I read somewhere that MM walks "vagina out", which according to whatever article is an aggressive gait for women. Kinda like John Wayne...wish I could remember where I read that!

It is simply incredible, as the new "pap" shots emerge, how blatantly staged this whole thing was, right down to Meghan putting her hand on Harry's back as they bend over the back of the KIA. A couple of times they are both looking the photogs right in the eye over their bandit bandanas, and calling in the same fucking photographer who set her father up.

There are dozens of places where they could exercise their dogs without being seen.

The Project Angel Food organisation has been called out all over the Internet for utilising Harry and Meghan after making it clear that due to the risk of infection, they were bringing their volunteer program to a halt, and after giving the Sussexes a personal, and a clearly rule-breaking tour of the kitchens. A friend of Meghan's from SoHo House is on the Board, I believe.

And, Disney owns ABC, so her appearance on GMA is very likely something she was contracted to do as part of PR for the film - something she doubtless was delighted to agree to as it puts her on national American television.

They are shameless, insufferable, transparent, shallow, and their hunger for exposure and fame hangs over them like Pig Pen's cloud of dirt.

The Queen and Charles should have told Harry NO when he brought her home; failing that, the Queen should have pulled all their titles for real, insisted that they pay back the taxpayers for the renos on Frogmore Cottage, and charged them the full market rent if they wanted to retain it.

If they want to make fools of themselves, who cares? But making fools of themselves whilst retaining their pretensions of royalty through the name Sussex and everyone knowing they're still HRHs, and being allowed to retain their royal patronages in Britain, is what makes they're posturing so embarrassing for the BRF.

And, did anyone see the side view of that mess of hair sticking out of her Project Angel Food cap in the "pap" photos? It's like broom straw.

They look like they both smell bad.

^*their (not they're) posturing

This article is full of information. Who knows if any of it is true. The part about the plans for Archie's birthday sound like they could be. I'm only quoting part but it's worth reading the rest for a laugh. I wonder if this "private" event will eventually find its way out to the public.

[quote] Meanwhile, they have shelved plans for a party to mark Archie’s first birthday on May 6. Instead, they will host a “cake smash” which they aim to screen on the video app Zoom.

[quote] In addition, Meghan has lovingly put together a photo album of Archie’s ‘best bits’, and a video montage of things they’ve privately filmed over the past year. “These will be sent to family members, and they’re politely asking those who can donate to their foundation or local LA charities instead of any presents for Archie.”

^a gofundme of sorts for the new foundation.

OMG "They are asking for donations to their foundation in place of presents for Archie" - he really, really *is* Merchie!

Yes, and their ‘foundation’ is Merchwell.

Los Bandidos!

Sorry r17, I was laughing so hard I FF'd you. Meant to WW you.

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The Harkles and Merchie are doomed. They better get back to Dumbarton asap and live in the largest house they can find there. At least that way their money and security problems will be solved.

They can't settle in the UK, r74.

Harry doesn't know it yet but what they are doing right now is establishing residency in California right now, setting her up for the most favourable divorce settlement possible - for her, that is.

And, right now they are searching for the most expensive house Harry can afford to buy, again, to set up for Meghan to have the largest asset possible when the divorce judge eventually grants her the residency.

She has literally been keeping Harry busy building his own financial funeral pyre.

They’re already begging for handouts to their foundation?

Omg

R70, it's Merchewell.

Don't forget the silent "e"

It's a shame they can't find time to go to church.

Of course, R77, thank you.

The silent e should mean $m

Baseball caps....ugh.

They weren't MAGA redcaps tho.

It's sad to see photos of Harry schlepping around LA like this, but he chose to go this route and maybe it's who is really is beneath the royal veneer.

You'd think they'd have people who could do their charity work for them. How common.

[quote]“It is accessible through two guarded checkpoints, and prides itself on being ‘paparazzi-proof’.

So apparently their rented mansion is 'paparazzi-proof', but we're consistently seeing pap pictures ...

They're waiting for the real estate market to hit the bottom of the trough so that Meghan can get maximum square footage for the dollar. They'll vulture something magnificent no doubt.

Perhaps, r86, but she needs Harry to pay as enormous an amount as possible for the house they buy in order for the legal precedent to be set that the style to which she has become accustomed is ultraluxurious. Also so that when she gets the house, it is an asset which enriches her significantly.

She's not looking for a bargain, she's looking for guaranteed appreciation on whatever house they buy.

CDAn claiming that the dog walk/ 2nd food delivery pics were planned by Meghan who called to give the paps time and place.

He's sixth in line to the throne. What does it matter what he does?

These outings delivering food are actually getting funnier by the day. You can now tell they have organised photographers to be there, as they are constantly walking in such a way, so as to give the photographer full access. Same as with the CCTV footage, they are walking all awkwardly and slow with pauses, to make sure the cameras catch them.

However, at the same time it's like they are possibly wearing ear pieces for direction from someone off camera. It's like watching two characters on Acorn Antiques!! I wish someone would release the full unedited footage, you'd see an empty street for a few minutes, and Harry and Meghan hoovering around the corner, occasionally poking their heads out, waiting for the cue to appear and start walking.

You have to give credit where due to Little Miss Markle - she wanted "something" desperately and she got it. Whether or not she turns into Oprah or Angela Jolie without the knives, remains to be seen.

Borderlines and narcissists are often very effective at reaching their goals because by nature they're obsessives, and that adds up to drive. The thing is, Diana was the same way. She wanted desperately to marry Charles and although I think she honestly THOUGHT she loved him, she barely knew him. Long after the debacle crumbled, it came out that they had actually met only slightly more than a dozen times before he bit the bullet and proposed, fingers crossed, hoping for the best. I think stardom of a sort was also her goal although it mightn't have looked like it early on. Because stardom is a narcissist's primal dream: being the center of attention all the time.

But she wasn't the center of attention in Charles' psyche, and that's where the rocks appeared.

Meghan has gotten, with her marriage to Charles' son, as close as she's going to get, because unlike Diana, she's inherently plastic, boring, lacking in charisma and beauty, and her path was through a lower rung in the hierarchy.

Still, one has to admire how she turned a fading low-level show biz career on the brink of middle age into this.

She's going for it and Harry's going with her.

We all thought her wishes were granted with snagging and marrying Harry. Who knew it was just the first tranche of the Big Plan?

Is Harry the feckless Charles, one day drained of the ability to keep feeding her narcissism? Or is he the feckless Diana, constantly making the same mistakes over and over again?

R75’s “ She has literally been keeping Harry busy building his own financial funeral pyre.” Is brilliant. Just a brilliant way of putting it. Love you.

R92 and everyone can see it , except for Harry who believes everyone else who may have tried to warn him is toxic .

I have been truly horrified what a simpleton Harry has turned out to be. She is clearly telling him to be supportive of certain causes, but he has absolutely no idea why he should be. Typical examples were him complaining about the dangers of social media, then launching his own Instagram, and bemoaning the damage being caused to the planet and taking private jets everywhere.

She has got him so completely isolated and gaslight his reality will be gone and he will be living whatever "truth" she is presenting to him. Good example being his recent comment on a Podcast that the British Media is making the Covid-19 pandemic seem worse than it actually is! This was said after he had been spotting wondering around LA delivering food his face covered!

I am surprised she let's him drive the car.

R95 if the worst happens, I’ll get even MORE comparisons to my dear mother in law.

But I’ll need a much bigger tomb.

R94 It's not really a surprise considering that Harry required teachers helping him cheat to pass secondary school (whistleblower teacher was fired). Then at military school he amazed teachers (but in a bad way) by flunking a basic computer test. Again later on during flight training in the army, Harry failed a prerequisite flight course/ test yet the powers that be allowed him to begin flight training despite his idiocy. He's also dumb enough to dress up as a Nazi and had no qualms using racist term "Paki" to describe other non-white army members. Then there are of course persistent rumors of alcohol abuse and cocaine use in his 20s. People close to him have said that of the two brothers it is Harry who pays attention to and reads articles written about him. He has inherited all of Diana's worst traits such as low intellect, love of celebrities, and unstable personality. It's no wonder he attracted and fell for a fellow unstable personality in Meghan.

The British Army and the Royal Air Force give people like Harry bonus points so they end up passing the exams. The Royal Navy does not do that.

R95 - And remember, Harry is used to driving on the other side of the road . . .

I wonder how she explained these pap stunts to Harry. "Listen honey, I know you hate paps, but I called some of them, so be a darling and look directly into the camera while they follow our every move".

R97 Diana, like all of us, had her positives and negatives, highs and lows. It’s been interesting to see how Diana’s Boys have shaped their lives. Harry seems to be committed to making all of her mistakes. And at a much faster pace.

[quote] Diana’s Boys

Sounds like a band.

They've become the couple everybody loves to hate in record time.

So where did these angels of mercy deliver their largess? Who provided them with names, addresses? Has anyone of the recipients been contacted?

The irony of naming a thread "The Meghan and Harry Show" while obsessing over them.

Unemployed, homeless middle-aged losers, couchsurfing with their baby and two dogs.

I think he’s an alcoholic.

Her vagina must be something to behold. What mystical powers it has. What secrets of the universe are in there? Only Harry knows.

r107, coke is my guess.

R108 My old mother, who was Scottish, used to say when Phillip married Elizabeth the joke was “the whole of England awaits him.” (She also would call a troublesome person “a real Cunty McFuck,” but I digress.)

Ah, what could have been....

That nose job is from the 70s.

It really as - a version of the old-fashioned, much derided "ski-jump" nose job.

She really has a terrible profile. That forehead and jawline do her no favors.

She also has bad skin these days, and despite her moaning about the tabloids, many retouched photos of her to make her skin look smoother and fresher.

And we don't even go into what happened to her hair in the last three years.

So many assumptions. They aren't going to buy a house. They can't afford it, they can't get a mortgage, and unless Charles is crazy, he's not buying one now to give it to her in a divorce then. H&M aren't listening to their (now former) advisors in the BRF, but one assumes Prince Charles still does, maybe more than ever. They'll rent unless some Kazakh billionaire gives them the use of an LA home.

More importantly re: California residency. How? No immigration, no green cards for the next 60 days if Trump gets his way. Unless Harry wants to be a farm worker (critical that someone picks the strawberries or they'll lose the crop) he's going to have a hard time getting into the US to stay. Trump's USCIS isn't likely to rubber stamp his application the way they've talked about the Hair Fuhrer - he's very vindictive.

They still (per Piers) have RPO's, albeit unarmed RPOs (so how effective can they be as bodyguards? they're apparently used as go-fers) paid for somehow. If the British taxpayers are on the hook for those costs (and they are, one way or the other, whether it's coming out of Scotland Yard or the Foreign Office budget or the Duchy of Cornwall), when newly-broke Britain breaks out of the lockdown, there'll be hell to pay.

Maybe most importantly, how do they thrive let alone survive? Her talents are minimal; his non-existent. Hollywood is ultra competitive in the best of times. These aren't the best of times and won't be for a while.

I was wondering how the ban on immigration might apply to Harry. But I'm assuming that it doesn't apply to people who are already here, just bans new people from entering? I guess we'll see when the specific details are released. It was reported that Harry wasn't planning on applying for a green card anyway. I would guess he's on some sort of spousal visa?

R117, it’s something to ponder. I would expect that he’d be given a wave-through, being a VIP. But if they pissed Trump off, all bets are off - there could be a way to follow the letter of the law and give him a bad time.

Deciding to fixate on Harry’s immigration status is just the deranged thing our president might do. God.

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There's been some speculation that Harry is on some sort of diplomatic visa which could allow him to stay for an extended period or even indefinitely.

Words you'll never hear - Prince Harry Mountbatten-Windsor, Duke of Sussex, Diplomatic Corp of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

The fact that Harry doesn't deserve and should not be entitled to a diplomatic passport has nothing to do with whether his family could swing one for him.

I remember reading that some Saudi princes were able to stay in the US under diplomatic visas even tho they didn't have any diplomatic function. Sounds like a diplomatic visa can be extended pretty much as a courtesy and not necessarily because the person in question is here on a truly diplomatic basis. So I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Harry still using his family to get favored status. But I don't see why he wouldn't be able to stay on a spousal visa.

Either way the stories about how unhappy he is in the US are already dripping out. That didn't take long, did it? Pampered prince lasted what, a month before he started whining? So I don't expect him to even be here all that long. He'll be crawling back to Britain before we know it.

Crawling back to a country that now hates him? That'll be fun.

Who’s saying he’s unhappy?

They are casting a huge shadow over the Kardashian Circus 🎪- so all is not lost!

If they are the vaccine 💉 that finally ends the Kardashian/Jenner Pandemic, then all hats 🎩 off to them.

R123 - You're right - the rules are always bent for people like Harry.

Maybe when Meghan's counsel starts making the for how much less privileged she is than people think, under cross-examination the defence can enquire about Harry's residence status, e.g., how much of Meghan's millions in gifts (that would be clothes and jewellery and her portion of Harry's regular cash income) accrued whilst a working member of the BRF but still an American citizen subject to American tax regs, were actually reported properly. How about subpoenaing her tax filings of the last two years?

R129, that is a dangerous door to open in court. I don’t see any way it could be part of an effective defense.

The UK will take Harry back if he is a. alone, b. properly contrite, and c. if he undertakes a bunch of thankless royal tasks with no whinging or grandstanding.

Prince Andrew...not a chance.

^^It reminds me of the “not many people have asked if I’m okay” while in the middle of the Africa tour. Absolutely clueless.

Now that they are no longer part of the BRF, are they retaining their own tax advisors and accountants?

R116 - Correct me if I'm wrong, but if Harry gets a green card, doesn't that indicate an intention of filing for citizenship? He may not have to, but is a green card the same things what in Britain is called leave to remain indefinitely?

Too right on the nonsense stories about the multi=million dollar house purchases. They couldn't afford the mortgage, insurance, and property taxes even if they could buy outright, which they can't unless Harry takes a huge bite out of his trust fund (which I'm not even sure he can as it's set up) or Charles buys it for them; and that still leaves them with astronomical insurance, property taxes, and maintenance costs of such a home, on top of staff and all their other costs.

But I wouldn't bet on Charles listening to his advisors. He has a long history of not taking advice - it's common amongst the royals.

Charles is also likely riddled with guilt about Harry - something else Meghan is probably counting on. And their's Archie to be considered.

If Charles isn't buying them a house right now, it's because the whole thing isn't yet settled - if it were, he'd probably be crafting a settlement of sorts now that includes a house or enough money to buy what Charles thinks is appropriate, and that isn't likely to be $12 million. Any scenario could be true: Harry has already told his father he plans to file for US citizenship and he's never going back to a country that hates his wife, and let's get a settlement deal done; Harry has indicated he has no fucking idea what life will be like next year because off the virus, so all bets are off, in which case Charles will just continue to float them with no settlement, no house purchase, and hoping that the dust settles on all the negative PR they've managed to garner; the BRF is still hoping against hope that the penny finally drops for Harry and a divorce proceeding takes shape and Harry starts planning to come home; or, contrary to all expectations, an exasperated Charles tells his son to grow the fuck up and figure out what the rest of the world has to do when not cushioned by an ancient monarchy's status, wealth, and privilege.

^*meant to say, they couldn't afford the mortgage, insurance, and property taxes if they can NOT buy outright . . .

I can't see Charles buying them a home. He has never bought his own homes but got the Duchy of Cornwall to buy them.

I am pretty sure the BRF are counting down the days til Harry bails on MM, and they certainly will not be buying any property she could claim in a divorce.

Think about it: when is the last time those two had a *home*? Maybe Nottingham Cottage, after the engagement? Where have they ever unpacked their bags and made a home.

I’m truly surprised she was able to stay in Toronto in a house that she (supposedly?) bought, for seven years.

She will take plenty of benzos before the deposition tomorrow so she doesn’t run off at the mouth.

Her Toronto house was rented for her by “Suits,” I believe.

Wonder where she lived when not filming?

She might be used to nomadic living.

The BRF are love bombing the Mail this week.

What are they afraid is going to come out in the deposition?

R140, indeed. Like her idol Santa Angelina.

I really do think that after one marries and has children, it behooves the family to settle down eventually. Or at least have a home base. It’s one thing to be a vagabond couch surfer in your 20s. By the time you’re touching 40, it’s not cute anymore, if you’ve got a kid and dogs.

In the past two years, they've had five homes in three countries: NottCott, Cotswold Farmhouse, Frogmore Cottage (allegedly; I don't think they've ever spent a single night there), Vancouver Island and LA. Those are just the ones we know about.

Constantly changing one's residence is a recognized symptom of some forms of mental illness and/or personalty disorders.

At least Charles does something with the perks the Duchy affords him:

"In 1992, The Prince of Wales opened the Highgrove retail shops which sells products for home and gardens. The shops are located in Tetbury and in London where the products are available at Fortnum & Mason. All profits from the sale of the products are paid to The Prince of Wales's Charitable Foundation. In 2014, the shops began selling products online."

I'm not sure the Cotwolds place was ever much occupied - they gave the least to the place up when they moved into Frogmore Cottage, because it was too expensive to maintain both. I don't buy that they never spent a night at Frogmore - they really had to bring Archie home somewhere and if they had another property they were renting after having stuck the taxpayer with the FrogCott bill, it would mean the BRF, which is to say, Charles and the Queen, would have known and colluded with them in deceiving said taxpayers.

After all, William and Kate lived in Anglesey, Wales; then in Nottingham Cottage; then finally moved into Apt 1A in Kensington Palace AND in Anmer Hall, the country estate in Norfolk the Queen gave them.

I read the baby stayed most of the time in that house in the Cotswolds with his nannies. Meghan and Garry weren’t living there (supposedly).

The whole situation is very strange. Are these two even together anymore in real terms?

R144, produce one single photo of them inside or outside of Frogmore. And in interviews last year, neighbors said they had been approached and told to keep their distance and not to stare but they have never seen them or their security anywhere around. For that matter, produce one single photo of the renovated interior or exterior. The one of Frogmore under scaffolding and tarps that went around a year or two ago was actually a photo of nearby Victoria's and Albert's mausoleum, which was recently restored.

Are Meghan's grounds for divorce already being planned?

Juicy, r147!

I realize ‘Garry’ is a typo, but I rather like it — Prince ‘Just Call Me’ Garry.

Or they’re laying the foundation to go back to England.

Ugh.

R150, I always say she’ll never set foot in England unless it’s to rub a triumph in the country’s face. And maybe not even then.

However, she’s brazen as fuck, so she might do it just because.

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I’m not going to judge her on her relationship with her father, because it’s always more complex than it looks, and I do believe people have the right to end relationships that are not healthy.

But I’m judging the HELL out of the publicity of it.

The problem with Meghan is that like 99% of her relationships are unhealthy. I get that you have to distance yourself from toxic people but looking at her past she's the toxic one. Her father isn't a one off, it's a pattern that pretty much all of her relationships fall into eventually.

R154, no doubt. Maybe HE was the one done with HER and that’s why she’s so mad. He beat her to the punch?

I’m intensely curious about her relationship with Doria...

Correct, r154. Meghan is estranged from her father and her siblings and relations with her husband's family are not great. She also doesn't seem particularly close with Doria or with anyone in Doria's side of the family.

Dysfunction is the Markle family motto.

You have Sister Sam, who is estranged from her mother and her children.

You have Brother Tom, who is estranged from Sam and whose kids took their mother's name until Meg made them "famous."

If there are any healthy relationships in this family tree, I'll go outside without a mask.

Was Doria in prison?

It has been alleged, R158, but I've never seen proof and it seems unlikely if indeed she's licensed by the State of California as a social worker - conviction would preclude licensure.

There are a lot of rumors that Doria was in prison but I think if she was someone would have found a public record of that and I don't think anyone has produced that particular receipt.

Tom won't go into a lot of details about why but he's made it pretty clear that Meghan lived with him and he raised her pretty much alone during her formative years. That would be so hurt by her shutting him out. By Meghan's own words he was a great father to her. Not sure where Doria was, if Meghan visited her on weekends or what. The other theory is that Doria took off to some commune or to "find herself" for a few years. Looks like Doria was back in the picture more around the time Meghan graduated from HS.

Yes, the Markles are all messed up. Very dysfunctional family. Which should have been a huge red flag. I mean yeah, I suppose she could have been like Marylin from the Munsters and the only normal person in her family, but what are the odds of that?

If Doria had been in jail, does anyone really doubt that Sam wouldn't have blabbed at the first opportunity? I've criticized Meghan a lot but some of the theories are Pizzagate level-stupid.

The theory that Doria was in a cult makes the most sense to me.

A social worker can have a criminal record and be licensed. Misdemeanors are okay but in most states not felonies. I've worked with 2 social workers who had been in prison for misdemeanors (fraud and drugs) and they were open about their past. It really depends on what your background is and how honest you are with the employers.

R162 Doria belonged to a hippy-dippy church that some guy from The Secret ran. Oprah was a fan of the guy and had him on her show. Michael Beckwith? Beckworth? Whatever.

That tells you where Doria is coming from.

The question was if Doria had been in prison, R163. Misdemeanor convictions result in jail time, either local or county, and usually for a term of 12 months or less. Convicted felons go to a state prison.

Were the people you mention licensed in California?

Was/is Doria licensed? I thought she had just completed the required hours she needed to be accredited but then she retired so I don't think she's currently doing social work.

Her mother’s background is shady.

She ran out in a lot of debt. I think she’s been paid off.

Doria and Tom both have bankruptcies. Meghan learned all she knows about finances from them apparently.

Yes R165 It was in California. In California you can get licensed as a LCSW even with a felony conviction but you'll have to disclose it in your application with the boards. The felony can't be classified as serious felony and can't be within past 7 years under a certain California code designating types of serious felonies. So no felonies like murder, sexual assaults, abuse, crimes committed using violence, etc... But not felonies involving fraud. It's then up to the board to decide whether or not to grant you licensure. But even once you're licensed, you still have to disclose your records to potential employers because they'll find out when doing background checks. Usually the more coveted employers like UC system or those affiliated with universities won't hire LCSW with any criminal history including misdemeanors, but that's just a generalization. These organizations tend to be choosier and have stricter standards. My understanding is that usuallyLCSWs with criminal records wind up working for rehab centers or smaller community services in the private sector.

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R154 - Have to agree - eventually, that pattern included most of Harry's family with the exception of the Queen and possibly Charles, although after what she did to Camilla during Meghan's last week as a "working royal" I'm not sure Charles is as taken in by her as he once was.

I looked up Doria's license as a social worker and she is indeed licensed in California. Not sure though about an alleged felony problem.

R172 I don't think she has a felony, it might be misdemeanor though. Yes her licensure is public record, one that is still searchable, it would be interesting to see if she renews it. She likely will since it literally takes paying a fee and filling out online form to do so.

I think Doria has a shady past, too. It seems like she’s a decent enough person now, so whatever. She’s not the one causing the problems here.

Her daughter is one fucked-up chick, though.

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Meghan is the curious product of millennial skank culture and California blue collar culture.

California is, funnily enough, one of the last places in the US where a person can make a very good living without a lot of education. You would think the deplorables would live that

So Thomas made a decent living, but might not be the most evolved guy. I’m sorry to say he looks like an alcoholic even in old pics— they have a specific body type.

Interesting comment on another article said she obviously fed Harry a lit of bull before the wedding that he just bought completely, so now she has to see this ridiculous lawsuit through to save face with him.

He’s so stupid and biased at this point, she’ll probably scream at him that the paper is lying and twisting her words during the entire process. And he’ll choose to believe her rather than admit he was wrong and fell for her act. Even if she loses.

R176, I love your comment.