Joe Biden Has Huge 11 Point Lead Over Donald Trump in New CNN Poll

But but but, I thought they were tied??????

[QUOTE] But but but, I thought they were tied??????

😂 Those concern trolls need to keep their Eeyoring on Twitter. They’re not raining on our parade.

I hate summers before Presidential elections. The country always loves the Democrat in the summer, then when the fall rolls around the love affair grows colder. Hillary was up against Trump this time 4 years ago. I have a hard time getting exciting about bouncing poll numbers. Fool me once.

You’d rather we start behind and have to climb out of a hole, R3? If I’m in a game, I’d rather be up in the first quarter than down. We’re off to a great start considering the party is still fractured from a primary.

No doubt r4, I just mean that polls don't get serious, in my mind until October.

I read the first part of the headline, "Joe Biden Has Huge 11..." and momentarily got excited.

R5

Not to mention national polls aren’t nearly as important as state by state polls.

I know that polls are not necessarily meaningful. But it strikes me that perhaps the polls are more accurate this year than in 2016 because, back then, at least some voters were afraid to tell others they were supporting tRump, particularly in light of some of his behavior that seemed (and still is) outrageous but became normalized over time. Nowadays, they won't shut up! So they need to be outvoted.

R6

Now you have me picturing Bernie’s dick. I’m guessing long and thin, very veiny, and it’s crooked like his boney finger.

Polls aren’t important unless Joe Biden is losing and/or tied in them. Then the “Biden is doomed!” crowd can’t shut up about them and how it proves the DNC needs to abandon Joe for Bernie or Andrew Cuomo or the Michelin Man.

There are contexts where 11 is huge. This is not one of them.

How so, R11?

Like so

Wasn't Hillary ahead of Trump in most national polls back in 2016?

I'll look at the state-by-state numbers, thank you.

If Biden won anywhere near that margin, then Democrats would also take the Senate and expand their margin in the House. But we have to get out and actually vote.

What kind of person would vote for Trump? People who need to have their heads bashed in with a canoe paddle.

[QUOTE] Like so

This isn’t 1987, R13. No presidential candidate in this day and age will sniff a 17 point lead over their opponent.

It’s too early to pay attention to polls, especially in this environment.

At this point just has to do three things: Pick a VP who actually has potential as a viable Prez, raise money wherever he can get it, and finish all his sentences within a reasonable time frame.

Hillary got 2.85 million more votes than Trump in 2016. The national polls were accurate. The problem was 50k people in WI, PA, and MI were over-confident in her victory and chose not to vote.

Some of you need to stop being so God-damned pessimistic. I think some of you *want* to see four more years of Trump's chaos and havoc. Do you want a nuclear war with Iran? Do you want more climate change denial and see your rights stripped away? Biden is the nominee, get on the bus or be under it.

Any state polls?

[QUOTE] Any state polls?

GOPigs will continue to voter supress, taint e-ballots, bribe courts, allow Russia to fuck it up, etc.

We're doomed, until Dump dies and Pence, briefly president, will crawl back up inside Mother's dried out cooze.

Anybody who believes a poll taken today especially from CNN which hates Trump, is only fooling themselves. No poll means anything until October.

Joe Biden is a good man.

I hope everybody gets on board.

We need to be united.

YAY...Joe WINS!!

Joe isn't going to win. He might not get the nomination. He has dementia. Everyone knows it..

Someone with dementia would be better than Trump.

[quote]I hate summers before Presidential elections. The country always loves the Democrat in the summer, then when the fall rolls around the love affair grows colder. Hillary was up against Trump this time 4 years ago. I have a hard time getting exciting about bouncing poll numbers. Fool me once.

Nobody ever loved Hillary. People on DL just had their fingers jammed in their ears while yelling, "Lalala, I can't hear you."

I like this interactive map.

I'll vote for him because Trump needs to go but I fear I'm replacing one idiot with another. Granted, Biden might not be as dangerous but he's still an idiot and we'll be looking at another 4 years of stupidity.

Trump has a far worse case of dementia than Joe Biden. He literally forgets what he's said from one day to the next.

Trump forgets during the same rambling speech, sometimes before even completing his sentence.

Unlike Sanders, Joe Biden has released his updated health records, which would note dementia or mental decline. In addition, Biden goes to real doctors, unlike Trump who gets his yearly check-up from a dude who looks like he printed his MD off of 4chan and barely 'graduated' from Trump U. Try harder, bitter little bitches.

R31, I'd take 4 years of stupid over 4 more years of fascism.

R34 unless Biden asked for a mental evaluation no they would not. Can’t force it on him. If he released them already they are probably fake. Trying too hard to convince you. It’s clear he has dementia. He’s older than Reagan was when he left office. Look at his expression. Nobody at home.

If his mental decline is so very obvious, R36, a doctor would order a psychological assessment so Biden could be evaluated at length.

But, it's only 'obvious' to those desperate to see it or people spending every spare moment watching doctored youtube videos.

He could fork over perfect reports and you'd still say they were 'fake', as you've already admitted. Sad.

Even if Biden was drooling and incoherent and wore a t-shirt that said I have old age dementia, he would still be better than Trump. If you want a progressive agenda, you will get closer to it with Biden then you would with Trump and a 7/2 Supreme Court.

In the last debate with cardiac patient Sanders, Joe did very well. He wouldn't have near the endorsements he has if he had dementia. Sure - he's old and has a slight stutter, but Trump is a stark-raving mad homicidal maniac. I'll take old, thanks.

Hillary had leads in most polls. I'll believe it when I see it.

We're repeating the mistakes of 2016. If polls have Biden leading nationally, the polls are wrong.

The polls in 2016 were not wrong. But, the polls in a few key swing states are more important than any of the national polls.

The polls in 2016 weren't wrong. Two things happened, which may actually be the same thing:

1. Comey Letter hurt Hillary in the last week

2. Voters who made up their mind in the last week broke 2:1 for Trump

The electoral college projections, based on polls, had Hillary winning.

R39. The last “debate”?? You referring to the one where Biden had all his remarks prepared in advance? It was painfully obvious and expected since it was on CNN-the same phony cheats that admittedly gave Hillary the questions in advance. Biden got pitched marshmallows. It was a pathetic display.

R37. There is no law requiring Biden to have a competence exam. No doctor can force it. He’s not holding any office. Not employed. He will delay this as long as possible.

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, Donald!

The CNN poll was Thursday. A poll on Friday, as the number of virus deaths start to decline, shows that Trump and Biden are now tied 42-42. As the virus continues to recede, Trump will benefit.

So by your logic, R48, Trump will be the one who’s up 11 points by Saturday?

[quote]Hillary was up against Trump this time 4 years ago. I have a hard time getting exciting about bouncing poll numbers. Fool me once.

Shit started going south in July of 2016, if I recall. The GOP convention and positive media press, plus the emergence of the far right in Europe (Marine Le Pen's popularity that summer, the Brexit win in the UK) made a lot of us nervous.

But remember that the election involved both Russians messing with voter registration websites, plus the FBI interfering with the "reopening" of the Weiner investigation and the Comey letter. I think the reason polls didn't reflect the election outcome is because the actual votes had very little to do with who won.

[quote]CNN-the same phony cheats that admittedly gave Hillary the questions in advance

The absolute worst part about the elections this year are the BernieBros who are pushing all the same dipshit conspiracy theories that Trumpsters do.

No one with any goddamn sense thinks Hillary "Overprepared" Clinton needed to be given the debate questions in advance. Did you not see the other debates? Did you not see who she was debating against?

OP, you've omitted the vitally important secondary question:

'8 in 10 Republican voters are either “extremely” or “very” enthusiastic about voting in the fall election as compared to just more than half of Democratic voters (56%) who describe themselves as equally excited about casting a ballot in November.'

It's one thing to have a healthy lead in an opinion poll, it's another thing altogether to enthuse voters sufficiently to actually get them to turn out to vote. This was always Biden's problem, and so it remains, even now that he no longer has any competition.

When election day comes I sure hope not a single voter listens to the polls and figures it doesn't matter if they vote because Biden has a huge lead in the polls. I am convinced people thought it didn't matter if they voted because Hillary had a huge lead and there was no way Trump would win.

At this point in America, if the fear of another four years of Trump and his minions in power, and the damage they will do, do not 'enthuse' a person to vote for whomever is running against him? Then they are heartless trash who should have been aborted.

Can we abort them now, R54?

It's about the courts.

Don't be distracted.

Biden's got his work cut out for him. Can he win without attracting Republicans in swing states?

"Wow, Approval Rating in the Republican Party - 96%. Thank you!"

Just try and reach that 4%, while staying true to basic democratic values and that might be enough.

Nothing - and I mean NOTHING - on Trump's Twitter feed is true. He makes up any old number he pleases.

[quote] Just try and reach that 4%

George Conway’s neck makes up most of that 4%.

Apathy will cause Dems to lose. Confidence, too. Stay humble and keep working.

Remember- subtract 5% from the Dem number due to the shitty Electoral College.

Florida, Pennsylvania and Michigan matter, a national lead means zilch.

We win PA, WI, and MI and we win. Biden has PA in the bag. And he's up in both WI and MI. Even if we lose WI, if we take AZ or NC, we win. And FL is still very much in play.

When do you think Texas will turn purple and when blue?

50 state campaign this time. Mook-esque complacency will us.

[quote] If polls have Biden leading nationally, the polls are wrong.

Ladies and gentlemen, presenting... the mind of an idiot!

Will *kill us

[quote]Biden has PA in the bag

Don't underestimate the middle of the state.

Nothing’s in the bag. Boris wants us to be overconfident.

If Joe Biden loses PA to Trump, it will be an even worse catastrophe than 2016. I also hate to say anything is in the bag, but at the same time I find it hard to believe that he’ll lose either Pennsylvania or Michigan to Trump. Wisconsin is hard to predict.

Isn't Biden from Pennsylvania originally? Like Scranton? He's very popular there, I doubt he'd lose the state.

Biden is pretty popular throughout the Midwest.

You know what Trump and Sanders have in common? They're always victims of something/someone. Instead of manning-up and accepting responsibility, it's a CONSPIRACY! The debates were rigged! The media isn't fair!

No, bitch, people just don't like *you*. Period.

Biden? That's not helpful.

Meh.... this has a 20 point lead over him.

[quote] You know what Trump and Sanders have in common? They're always victims of something/someone. Instead of manning-up and accepting responsibility, it's a CONSPIRACY! The debates were rigged! The media isn't fair! No, bitch, people just don't like *you*. Period.

You forgot to add Hillary to the list. She’s the worst offender.

R77, you’re delusional.

It's sad that the BEST the DNC could do was Biden. That said, I will vote for him, and rant until I'm blue in the face that everyone should vote for him. In the past, I've gone third party, but not now. If you vote for Trump, you're morally and spiritually bankrupt.

Progressives may not like Biden, but if Biden wins over Trump, they live to fight another day. If Trump wins, all progressive causes may be set back for a lifetime.

BIDEN 2020!!

Nothing is guaranteed. Especially since the cult is going to cheat as much as possible.

The Republicans are going to try to disallow mail in ballots for everyone but service members. Watch.

I can't with the deluded people on this thread.

Biden is a weak candidate and Trump has the upper hand. Ignoring this truth is crazy and the people who are detached from reality have no chance of winning the election.

You all are the same people who will be melting down in shock on election night about evil fat America failing you again. You're failing yourselves right now.

Read it now: I told you so. Biden's about to run another Clinton campaign and get his ass handed to him.

R82 posted a great article.

[QUOTE] In truth, Biden does display a presidential level of empathy for the sick, the suffering, and the fearful. At the end of an otherwise forgettable town meeting that was livestreamed to families and children on Sunday night, Biden offered moving words about loss and tragedy: “A lot of people are hurting. A lot of people will be hurt when this is over. And we’ve got to make them whole. We can. We can. That’s what we do in the United States.”

[QUOTE]That moment may not be headline material. But for the handful of up-for-grabs-in-November voters who were watching, it was a reminder that Biden actually does feel their pain. Unlike Bill Clinton, Biden reacts to tragedy not with a bite-your-lower-lip act but rather with the hard-earned emotion of a man who has lost a great deal in life.

It's not an empirical truth, R83, it's your opinion based on your own personal feelings, and the insanity here is that you genuinely think your opinion is the same as truth.

R83, I agree with much of what you said--and thankfully you're not a Russian troll pushing the dementia card--and I would say you were 95% correct except for one thing: the virus. We have no idea what the death numbers will be, if there will be a second or even third wave of illnesses and deaths, and how many people will be left jobless and/or homeless. The nation could be angry with the president and many could unite, ignoring party lines. People might also feel sympathy for Trump if they perceive he is being treated unfairly. Who knows. But it won't be as cut and dried as it might have been without the virus.

Biden's dignity and empathy are the things that will set him apart from Trump--and if there was ever a time the nation needed a mature, dignified leader with empathy to lead as we mourn and rebuild, it's now.

[quote] Trump has the upper hand

In what way?

Here is how I see it. If anyone thinks this thing is going to be a cakewalk is fooling themselves. The power of incumbency is huge, plus Trump will shamelessly exploit the presidency to benefit his campaign.

I'm not sure who R83 supported in the primary, but all of the candidates were going to have a rough time against Trump. What sets Biden apart is, while he has a long career and baggage, no one seems to hate him the way they irrationally hated Hillary. I think that shows up in the primary voting when it appears that a lot of former Bernie voters or voters who sat out last time came back to vote for Biden.

Since I don't have a crystal ball and with the way this pandemic has altered everything, you can't really say what kind of campaign Biden is or isn't going to run. You just have to hope that lessons were learned from 2016.

All we can do is vote and encourage others to do the same. I can't believe after witnessing the last 4 years of this completely inept buffoon in office, democrats are still having to unify the party post primary. First of all, your Twitter timeline is not the democratic party. Second, you all or nothing fuckers need to go somewhere and sit down. You may not get all the way there with Biden, but you'd get closer than you would with another 4 years of Trump. And finally, presidents aren't kings, go read a damn civics book.

R87 1. He's the incumbent

2. Prior to Covid-19, the economy was doing well.

3. The Democratic Party is currently disorganized and poorly funded. The app fiascos in Iowa and Nevada were attempts to save money on conducting the primary, for example. Also, there is an ideological rift between socialists and neo-liberals which might result in low turnout for Biden from his own base.

4. Trump is very skilled at using the media as a foil, which they still have not adapted to. They play into his hands on a regular basis and give him a caricature of. clueless, classist "ruling elites" to define himself against. He baits them into this.

5. The GOP has been targeting moderates for outreach since 2017, while Democrats have been pushing moderates away. People in the middle, like independents and moderate Democrats, have become more politically conservative over the past few years because of this.

Oh they have not R89. Independents and especially moderate suburban women have become demonstrably more Democratic over the past three years...at least regarding this horrible, piece of shit president.

PA, MI and WI...that’s it. Scranton Joe is NOT going to lose PA. And MI and WI both elected Dem governors and even Secretaries of State in 2018. The only way the fat fuck wins is by cheating, which is a given. Don’t fucking let him!

R89, the GOP has been extremely ineffective in attracting moderates. As long as Dump is the figurehead of the GOP, it’s a lost cause. And moderates are certainly NOT becoming more conservative. If anything, they’re moving to the left.

R90, I say this as someone who lives in western PA...PA is not in the bag for Biden. PA is getting redder. The gains Democrats are making in eastern suburbs are being more than offset by gains republicans are making in western PA.

R92, the eastern suburbs of PA are by far more populated, so whatever gains are made in western PA are offset by the gains made in the eastern part of the state. I’m not saying PA will be easy, but it’s for the Democrats to lose.

[quote] I can't with the deluded people on this thread.

You "can't" what?!! Just say what you mean!! This seriously has to be one of the most annoying internet trends EVER.

Yeah, no, r93...

Given where the world is right now and the millions of permutations as to where it could wind up in November (all thanks to CV), I would not take any current polling to heart.

[quote]. He's the incumbent

Yes, he is, which means that the election will be a referendum on Trump. And right now, he is at historic levels of unpopularity, and even more historic levels of people who actively despise him.

[quote]2. Prior to Covid-19, the economy was doing well.

Not really. The stock market was but that's not the economy. Wages still remain flat, health care costs continued to rise at a rapid rate, and far too many people were being left behind by this economy.

[quote]3. The Democratic Party is currently disorganized and poorly funded.

That may be true of the DNC; it is not true of the individual candidates who, as we saw in 2017, 2018, and 2019, had no trouble fundraising and keeping up with their Republican counterparts. In 2018, in particular, many Democratic candidates were blowing away their Republican rivals.

[quote]Also, there is an ideological rift between socialists and neo-liberals which might result in low turnout for Biden from his own base.

That is counter-balanced by the hatred for Trump by all parts of the party. There aren't enough die-hard Bernie Bros to matter.

[quote]4. Trump is very skilled at using the media as a foil, which they still have not adapted to. They play into his hands on a regular basis and give him a caricature of. clueless, classist "ruling elites" to define himself against. He baits them into this.

This is counter-balanced by his his incompetence, his inability to grow his base, and his inability to let things ride. He always shits on his own good news. He's a lousy campaigner and it's getting worse, as he's driven everyone competent away from his campaign. In 2016, they managed to keep him reined in on Twitter for the crucial few months before the election. Nobody can do that in 2020.

[quote]5. The GOP has been targeting moderates for outreach since 2017, while Democrats have been pushing moderates away.

Completely false. The GOP has doubled down on its base, largely because that's what Trump wants and is doing. And we're seeing those results in the off-cycle elections as well as the elections in 2018. There is no "outreach." They've lost the suburbs and they've lost white women.

[quote]People in the middle, like independents and moderate Democrats, have become more politically conservative over the past few years because of this.

You do not have the data to support this assertion.

R95, ummm your graphic and story proved my point. The gains made in suburban Philly alone are making Dump very nervous, that area has big populations and was red except for Philadelphia proper in 2016.

That's actually a series they've been doing, r98. And, as said, the gains on the east are offset by everywhere else.

But... the story doesn’t say that. It’s your conclusion, r98. In fact, the story shows good news for Dems.

[quote]When do you think Texas will turn purple and when blue?

“Purple” is meaningless when you’re talking about the EC. Arizona is arguably purple in that they’ve started electing Democratic Senators. They’ve already got one and may elect another.

Texas is probably 10-15 years away from doing that. And 15-20 years away from voting for a Democratic presidential candidate.

When people talk about Texas turning blue, they mean in the next 20 years, not in the next election. That presumes that the Republican Party continues on its current course as the party of white resentment.

Hispanic voters in Texas are not all liberals. If the GOP (nationwide) ever got its act together and stopped with the overt racism and xenophobia, and reached out (in good faith) to voters of color, then the Democratic Party would be in an awkward and difficult position.

[quote]Hispanic voters in Texas are not all liberals.

To expand on this, I know a few who voted for Trump in 2016 and will vote for him again this year. One is even an immigrant (though a legal one). He says that he spent a lot of time and money to immigrate and become a citizen and he resents anyone who doesn’t do it that way.

It’s a mistake to presume that all Hispanic Americans identify with undocumented immigrants. A lot do, but many do not. It’s also a mistake to presume that Hispanics in one part of the country think the way others in other parts of the country think.

Hispanics in the West and East may be generally liberal and supportive of progressives like Sanders, but ones in places like Florida, many of whom are immigrants from Argentina and Cuba, do not like socialism or anything that remotely resembles it.

They’re not a monolithic group and Dems shouldn’t take it for granted that they’ll always vote blue in the future.

[quote] One is even an immigrant (though a legal one). He says that he spent a lot of time and money to immigrate and become a citizen and he resents anyone who doesn’t do it that way.

I have heard this same talking point so many times. It's just a talking point.

[quote] They’re not a monolithic group and Dems shouldn’t take it for granted that they’ll always vote blue in the future.

You mean by promising them things then turning around and shitting on them? You are confused. Those would be Republican politicians doing that.

r100 the story doesn't say what you think it does. Literallyy.

[quote]By taking a look at these numbers, and the map above, you’ll see one of the most stark examples yet of that Acela/Appalachia divide I’m always talking about. As the Southwest gets redder, the Southeast gets bluer.

[quote]Beyond that, the three counties that switched from Obama in 2012 to Trump in 2016 tell us a lot about how the race currently stands. Luzerne County looks like a lost cause for Dems at this point, while Northampton is showing some resiliency. In the middle are the mixed messages of Erie County.

[quote]There aren’t really any realistic Republican targets out there for Dems right now (with the possible exception of Cumberland).

[quote]As a result, their goal is to run up the margins as much as possible in Philadelphia and its collar counties, while winning back as many Obama/Trump voters as possible in the rest of the commonwealth. We’ll be here to watch the numbers and monitor their progress on the road to November.

That last paragraph is just A GOAL. it remains to be seen if it will be met.

Whatever r104. You stated that all the Democratic gains in the eastern part of the US were countered with gains in the west. The article does not say that at all. And despite your cherry picking paragraphs, the article is good news for the Dems.

Biden just has to have one dementia moment, or perhaps noticeably crap in his pants, during the debate and it’s over. Remember Gerald Ford claiming Eastern Europe wasn’t dominated by the Soviet Union or Dukakis dispassionately responding how he would punish a person who raped and murdered his wife.

[quote]I have heard this same talking point so many times. It's just a talking point.

It’s an anecdote, not a talking point.

[quote]You mean by promising them things then turning around and shitting on them? You are confused. Those would be Republican politicians doing that.

Straw man argument. I didn’t say that the Democratic Party was taking a particular action. It’s an attitude, more than anything.

Since he doesn’t have dementia, r106, that ain’t happening.

[quote] It’s an attitude, more than anything.

Yeah, we shouldn't vote for Democrats because they have an "attitude." Instead, let's vote for the folks who want us dead.

Said no rational person ever.

r105, i didn't cherry pick paragraphs. What I posted was the article's CONCLUSIONS in its entirety. And you would have know that if you actually read it.

r108, whether he does or doesn’t is not relevant. What matters is if he sounds like he‘s senile when he tosses out one of his word salads.

[quote] What matters is if he sounds like he‘s senile when he tosses out one of his word salads.

I'm sorry...which candidate are you talking about?

[quote]Biden just has to have one dementia moment, or perhaps noticeably crap in his pants, during the debate and it’s over.

Uh-huh. That's what the Bernie Bros said over and over and over and over again. How did that work out for them?

R112 has the correct take.

We’ll see.

I think the right to choose is the key, if the Democrats can get the right message out to women. Lets face it, everyone against abortion is going to vote Republican, but if you can get women to realize that their right to choose will be gone with the next Trump Supreme Court appointment that could get them to vote Democratic in overwhelming numbers.

R110 and NOWHERE does it confirm your claim about dem gains in the east being offset with republican gains in the west. Apparently you didn’t read it and copied/pasted.

So according to you... first I'm cherry picking paragraphs and now you're back to stamping your feet and swearing the "cherry picked" conclusions don't support what I wrote. LOL. You can't have it both ways.

I don't really care about this little pissing contest you two have going on, but nothing posted says anything about the balance of the shifts in numbers. No quote says there are more new Republicans or that there are more new Democrats.

It just doesn't say anything along the lines of the initial claim (that the gains in Republicans outweighs the gains in Democrats).

R117 you still didn’t post anything supporting your claim about the offsets. Nada. Nothing. Yet you post paragraphs of random info from a random article and stomp your own feet and say you did. Geez you Trumpsters really hate logic.

Exactly r118. There’s a Trumpster troll in the house.

Um, just the entirety of the article's conclusions. But whatever. Go on thinking PA is for the Democrats to lose. Same stupid thinking will end up as a repeat of 2016.

[quote] Um, just the entirety of the article's conclusions.

Um, kay, bye.

R121 read Moby Dick and surmised whales are friendly.

Never read it, nor do I care to. But it's sad that is all you've got.

Are you still here? What part of "Um, kay, bye" didn't you understand?

I just checked ignore because I have gaps and it looks like the m'kay bye poster forgot to switch accounts. I was replying to Moby Dickboy.

if we trust the "huge lead" in poll, John Kerry would be president. But W won the second term so easily that Kerry barely registered any challenge whatsoever, those poll numbers are SHIT!

[quote] I just checked ignore because I have gaps and it looks like the m'kay bye poster forgot to switch accounts. I was replying to Moby Dickboy.

No, no, I knew who you were responding to. You have just become tiresome. (And I don't have any idea what you mean about switching accounts. Just got one.)

[quote] if we trust the "huge lead" in poll, John Kerry would be president.

We all know that. This thread was in response to a number of Trumpsters crowing about other recent polls. This was to indicate it was not as settled as THEY thought, not that it was settled.

R127, Kerry won. Bush and the GOP stole Ohio, flipping just enough EVs to win.

[quote]Yeah, we shouldn't vote for Democrats

Something else I never said. 🙄

[quote]right to choose will be gone with the next Trump Supreme Court appointment

It was gone with the last one. They’re just waiting for a case to get up there.

Everytime I hear the world polls I need to call my therapist, drink a shot a vodka, and practice yoga mindfulness for PTSD.

hear the word*. I'm so FKIN MAD I MESSED UP MY JOKE.

Just look at almost every election in the past 4 years where Democrats won almost everything, even in red states. That's not a poll--it actually happened. The same thing is going to happen in November.

R101: The timetable has moved up rapidly. Texas will be blue by the end of the decade.

R97 The outreach campaign I was talking about is the #Walkaway "movement," starring gay hairstylist and actor Brandan Straka, which openly targets disaffected moderate Democrats and hopes to privide a template for large numbers of people to switch parties. It's part of a number of campaigns trying to poach people from Blue demos, such as "Blexit" and "Jexodus" (seriously.)

This is in contrast to Democratic orgs doing... what? Telling unhappy Democrats they're bad people and to shut up? They aren't doing anything to counter this.

I'm not a statistician, my observation about independents was based on the impression I've gotten from things I've read and the people around me. For what that's worth.

R102 is completely correct about Hispanics. They aren't all on board with illegal immigration, for various reasons. Hispanics in Texas are social conservatives, economic liberals. Most black people in the south as well. I remember reading before that something around half of American women support stricter regulation of abortion.

You can't count on people to stick to their demographics or think with one mind. White men don't- why would anyone else?

R135 you mean the year of 2029? that sure sounds exciting!

Lord, the trolls in this thread are amazing! Amazingly stupid and lazy. The Russian and RW talking points are sooo obvious. Russia is a shithole country full of drunks and low IQ dimwits.

Our current "leader" is in a bad position. The GOP is in a bad position. They have not grown their base and their antics have turned off so many voters. Voters have swung 20-30 points towards the Dems in every election since 2016. 2017, 2018, and 2019 showed consistent gains for Dems across the board. Nothing has changed that. Nobody wants 4 more year of this incompetent shitshow.

Texas will very much be in play by 2024 and possibly with a COVID-19 assist in 2020. Yes, absolutely. And not because of hispanics- CA transplants are turning TX bluer faster than anything.

Don't respond to the trolls!

ABT, Anybody But Trump

R136 Posting from Macedonia via Moscow.

Trump voters are social conservatives but economic liberals. They've just not been convinced they are economic liberals so they vote against their pocket books every time.

You all have to understand, aside from the obvious trolls here, that we have not seen a true Democratic regime since Kennedy/Johnson. That was the last time we were NOT cleaning up a GOP mess and we had 8 years of total govt control. Every other Dem president since has been cleaning up GOP messes.

R136: Those walk on by "movements" are all fake as fuck. Honestly, do some research before you post and stop being so credulous.

The national polls in 2016 were right. 50k people in WI, MI, and PA thought Hillary would win in a landslide and didn't bother to vote.

This economic crisis is going to take Trump down. No incumbent has every been reelected during a depression that started on his watch.

FAKE NEWS @ r40.

Trump's approval only continues to decline. And unlike r40, I have proof.

ABC NEWS says Trump's disapproval rating has grown to 55% !!!

[quote]The outreach campaign I was talking about is the #Walkaway "movement," starring gay hairstylist and actor Brandan Straka

ROFL.... Seriously?! That's what you're calling an "outreach campaign?" It's bullshit. There's nothing there. It's every bit as much "outreach" as are Diamond and Silk in the black community, i.e., none.

[quote]It's part of a number of campaigns trying to poach people from Blue demos, such as "Blexit" and "Jexodus" (seriously.)

None of which are showing any signs of success. Straka began his "campaign" in May, 2018. Democrats clobbered Republicans in the 2018 elections. Straka is an online publicity-hungry troll, desperate to milk whatever dollars he can get from gullible fools. He has accomplished precisely nothing.

[quote]I'm not a statistician, my observation about independents was based on the impression I've gotten from things I've read and the people around me. For what that's worth.

You already know the answer to that: it's worth nothing. You have no data to back up what you're saying.

[quote]R102 is completely correct about Hispanics.

No, actually, he's not. There are no signs that the current Republican Party is picking up the Hispanic vote. As it currently stands, the Republican Party is the party of Trump, through and through. It's the party of white identity politics, white male grievance. A future Republican Party could well make inroads in other communities but not the current party.

Oh, and Trump has lost Florida to Biden for 2 weeks now.

Trumplethinskin is FIRED!

This is what the "outreach" poster said in another thread

[quote]If life returns to normal, Trump wins. We have to cower in our homes forever.

I didn’t say the current Republican Party is picking up Hispanic votes.

[quote]A future Republican Party could well make inroads in other communities

This is exactly what I said. Hispanics are not all on board with the Sanders progressive wing of the Democratic Party. If, one day, the GOP pulled itself together, the Dems could find themselves in a bad spot.

Also, I wouldn’t call Texas Hispanics (or African-Americans) “social conservatives, economic liberals.” It’s more complicated than that. The Hispanic immigrant Trump voter I mentioned, for example, is very pro-gay.

R149 That's nice for a made up person.........

" could well make inroads in other communities"

or

"could well go functionally extinct as it has in the North East and West Coast"

Only swing states mater. Nothing else.

You know what kills me? Bloomberg. He enters the race trying to steal election from Biden & says “Don’t worry. I’m going to pour hundreds of millions of dollars into defeating Trump in the general election whether I win or don’t win the nomination. I’m going to use my campaign staff to help defeat Trump all the way til November whether I win or not.”:

Then he loses, fires his whole campaign staff, hands an $18M check to the DNC & walks away. Those hundreds of millions of dollars? Not only are they not materializing, but Bloomberg donated $20M to senate in 2018.. He’s giving less money to beat Trump in the general than he spent on trying to buy the senate 2 years ago.

Umm, it's still early.

And the fall is when Bloomberg's money is needed the most.

Trump has fallen and he can't get up in Ohio!

For two months now!

Pennsylvania has been a lock for ANY Democrat for the last year!

America's just not having Trump and the Electoral College cannot save him this time.

I see the Times has an angle aimed at destroying democracy. Because "her email" want enough.

Don't let Boris make you complacent.

157 and 158 are blocked by me. TROLLS!

Hmmm... r157 has pretty much posted anti Trump stuff exclusively. Why is he or she a troll, r159?

R160 I only block suspected Russian trolls or Concern trolls. They *could* have been blocked due to being a nutter certain diva fan but I rarely block those.

[quote]This is exactly what I said. Hispanics are not all on board with the Sanders progressive wing of the Democratic Party. If, one day, the GOP pulled itself together, the Dems could find themselves in a bad spot.

And if unicorns fly out of your butt, the Democs could find themselves in a bad spot. Both events have about the same likelihood of happening.

You're talking about something that is a generation away. Why even bother bringing it up now?

R160, because I'm critical of the Bernie cult. Anyone who criticizes their positions is deemed a troll.

If all else otherwise stays the same, Biden needs only to win Florida and Pennsylvania to win the election.

Hillary lost Florida by only 112,911 votes, while spoiler 3rd party candidate Gary Johnson received 207,043 votes, almost double, so it’s within Biden’s reach. Florida voted for Donald Trump by a margin of 1.2%. It was the fifth-closest state result, with only Wisconsin, Michigan, New Hampshire and Pennsylvania closer. Of these, only New Hampshire voted for Hillary. All of them could therefore easily go for Biden this time, securing him the nomination.

If these polls are correct, Biden wins 309 to 228. Of. Lures the polls will change and some states are close.

Things can change until November but one thing is certain. Donald Trump won’t. And neither will his fuck ups.

Do we have a third party candidate this time around?

North Carolina and Arizona are battleground states which were not in 2016.

Dems need to work on NC and AZ. They are turning blue, but not as fast as WI and PA are turning red. The “blue wall” of WI, PA, and MI is no longer reliable.

Do not underestimate voter suppression. They’ve kicked a million people off voter rolls in swing states already. They’re closing polling places. They’ll close down USPS to prevent mail in voting. They’ll send ballots late or not at all in GOP controlled states.

I still can’t believe our choices for President are these two. Pathetic when the argument for Biden is “well at least he’s not EVIL.”

Tweety hasn't been seen in two days, no briefings. Hmm...

[quote]I still can’t believe our choices for President are these two.

There will be third party candidates for anyone who can't vote for Biden or Trump.

Prediction: Florida goes blue. Why? The depression is going to hit them especially hard. 35 percent unemployment. Evictions, foreclosures, repossessions, general misery. I love Hillary, but it's much easier for a man. Barring a catastrophe, Biden should be able to pick up that 1.2 percent she lost.

What do we think is going on, R171? Corona? Stroke? Tantrums? Exploding colon? Stroke with exploding colon leading to tantrums?

I think you're right, R173

R174 - golf.

Well, that's a letdown, R176. But, I have only myself to blame for getting excited.

I'm one of the biggest Trump haters on Datalounge but even I don't think Florida will go to Biden on Election Day.

Republican officials in Florida have spent the last few years suppressing voters and purging minorities from the voter rolls. Combine that with Putin-knows-what and I consider Florida RIGGED.

Biden will take Ohio and Pennsylvania, however, which is all Biden needs. No Republican has ever won the Presidency without Ohio and they're sick of Trump's shit. Biden is winning there by a margin bigger than public survey margins of error, with helps to Putin-proof the election hacking that Moscow Mitch has invited.

I think it’ll be extremely close at the end. The gap will narrow drastically. The media will makes it an agonizingly suspenseful race. Look at the Times already trying to pull Biden down with the sex assault bullshit.

Voting third party = voting for Trump.

Totally agree R180.

I would love nothing more than for anyone to beat the living shit out of Trump (literally), but I'm tired of polls. I want this election now and I want that fuckhead off the planet, but polls sicken me.

The only was Biden doesn’t win is if he has a major health problem or dies; or Bernie runs third party.

[quote] Look at the Times already trying to pull Biden down with the sex assault bullshit.

I never believed the Kavanaugh rape accusations, and the Biden ones are bullshit too. The timing is too suspicious.

The Times helped elect Cheeto, whose incompetence led to unnecessary Covid deaths. They’re doing it again, for drama. Selfish.

[quote]Do we have a third party candidate this time around?

It depends whether Bernie continues to campaign, despite having “dropped out”. He is not to be trusted.

R142 I'm well aware, I put movement in quotes for a reason. I also pointed out that Brandon Straka is an actor and linked a WP article about #Jexodus being bullshit. The issue is that they may be picking off people who otherwise might identify as Democrats, resulting in a net loss for Biden.

They don't have to convince people to vote for Trump, they can do enough damage encouraging people to not vote for Biden.

Don't worry...the media is already trying to smear Biden and whittle that number down.

This is what I saw on my FB feed this morning from my local news:

"Former Senate staffer accuses Joe Biden of sexual assault"

Followed by these responses:

[quote]Hope Lee: Old Hair sniffing Joe...Ugh! He gives me the creeps! Kissing on little girls, biting their cheeks, whispering in their ears and grabbing them...UGH! He doesn’t even do it privately...I guess he really doesn’t care...

[quote]Brenda Brown: Democrats threw such a hissy fit during the last presidential campaign over Trump comments about grabbing p&*$@# and y'all have no problem looking the other way with Gropin'Joe. Nothing like doing the old flip-flop to suit your agenda, right Democrats?

[quote]Sarah Forsman Maitland: Believe all women remember!? The fact we actually witness him sniffing, grabbing, and kissing little kids is proof enough! How do people support a Pedo.. unless you’re into that sort of thing yourself..

The rape accusation has been around for weeks now, it's not going to catch on.

The accuser is a Bernie supporter (or staffer?) who didn't mention this when it happened in 1993, or when he was running for VP in 2008, or even when he announced his candidacy last year, she only brought it up when Sanders was struggling to stay in the primary. When she brought it up on 27 March it didn't make much of a splash despite a lot of big news orgs mentioning it, so then she filed charges, but it's far beyond the statute of limitations. She claims she "had" to file charges "for safety reasons." Her Twitter is incoherent, riddled with typos and weird errors.

No one is buying it. It's a silly revenge tactic. Even the people who firmly believe in "believe all women" aren't going to support a lady who is so transparently trying to use the MeToo movement for her own selfish reasons.

Sorry, she's not a Bernie staffer, she's a former Biden staffer from the early 1990s.

Biden will win FL before he wins OH. The Dems have lost OH for good. Same goes for IA.

Biden is a non starter here in the Midwest. Wisconsin is very pro Trump. We went for Evers because Walker was incompetent. I voted Trump, then Evers with a straight red ticket. A lot of people I know did too. People are still very fired up to vote Trump in middle America. I #walkedaway after three decades after Obama. Never again.

R192, does Trump's dirty asshole really taste that good?

Somebody who worked with Biden is suing him for sexual harassment so the smearing has begun

R194, that woman is endorsing Bernie and I read she has ties to Russia. But go on any of the Reddit Bernie threads and it’s all, “Biden is a rapist! I’ll vote for anyone but a rapist!” And a lot of, “Once Biden is thrown out for being a rapist, Bernie can get back in and run uncontested.”

I wouldn’t be surprised if Bernie is paying that woman. He is a malicious back stabber. And where has she been all through the Obama administration, two campaigns of it? In a hole?

What is it about Bernie that he attracts these loons? Have you ever met a sane Bernie supporter or one who showers regularly?

R196, most of them are actually Trumploons.

[quote]Biden is a non starter here in the Midwest. Wisconsin is very pro Trump.

Seriously? That's what you're going with? Biden is the strongest Democratic candidate in the Midwest and is clobbering Trump in all of the Wisconsin polls, the most recent of which has him up 28 points over Trump. Seriously, if you're going to troll here, can't you at least *try* to do so more intelligently?

[quote]I #walkedaway after three decades after Obama. Never again.

Thank you for confirming what you are.

[quote]I'm well aware, I put movement in quotes for a reason.

Then why did you list that as an example of Republican outreach? Listing a fake "movement" that has accomplished nothing and has zero chance of accomplishing anything does not support anything you've written.

[quote]The issue is that they may be picking off people who otherwise might identify as Democrats, resulting in a net loss for Biden.

Oh, garbage. They aren't "picking off" anyone. We've got two years of election results to prove that. Just accept that you can't back up what you wrote and move on. At this point, you're just embarrassing yourself.

R198 what? Which poll had him up 28 points to Trump in WI? I think you’re confusing it with a Biden/Bernie poll. Biden does not lead Trump on WI by 28 points. WI is a toss up that leans Trump. Either way it’s going to be close.

R200, I clicked the wrong link on the RealClearPolitics website. You're absolutely right that the data I posted was about Biden v. Sanders, not Biden v. Trump. I was an idiot for not catching that.

The most recent poll has Biden over Trump by 3 points in Wisconsin, although that's from late March, and the average is that he's beating Trump by 2.7 points. I apologize for the misinformation.

For the record, though, it's a tossup that leans Biden, not Trump.

R199 You're made that they aren't doing it or that they're insincere? Why do I care?

[quote] that woman is endorsing Bernie and I read she has ties to Russia.

LMFAO.

[quote] The rape accusation has been around for weeks now, it's not going to catch on.

It already has. Are you just playing stupid? The NY Times has it everywhere. The public is talking about him raping someone, fondling children, and not knowing where the hell he is. It’s going to be a blowout for Trump. Lemme guess, you were the idiot back in 2016 who told anyone who said Hillary would lose to shut up. Enjoy 4 more years of Trump, idiot.

You should care because you're being dishonest and spreading Republican propaganda. That makes you a bad person.

Come to Wisconsin and see for yourself r198. Get out here and talk to people. Outside Milwaukee and Madison this state is as red as it gets.

[quote]You're made [sic] that they aren't doing it or that they're insincere? Why do I care?

Because you made a claim and then pretended to back it up with utter nonsense. And are now claiming that you were totally aware that it was utter nonsense.

I'll take the results of the Wisconsin elections of the past three years, R206, along with the acknowledgement by the Republican Party in Wisconsin that they're in real trouble and the only thing saving them right now is the extreme gerrymandering that they did.

Florida is also in play because A) old cottonhead ladies LOVE Joe Biden, B) there's a ton of Puerto Ricans in the state now who are in a mood to bitchslap Trump back, C) Amendment 4 has restored felon voting rights, as much as DeSantis is trying to bolt a poll tax onto it. (Bloomberg might help here in spending his billions on paying these people's restitution - much more economical than $500 million for Samoa)

The stupidity by some is just astounding. I'll bet you're nowhere near the midwest are you r208? Those who are, know better. I will take great pleasure in laughing at you when you are proven dead wrong.

Florida is also a red state. Please people, do your research.

Anyone counting on felons in Florida to show up to vote, better not be holding their breath.

Florida is not a red state. Where are these people coming from who are announcing that swing states are actually red states? Could they please go back there? Thank you.

Every state is different, so you need to listen to people in those states before making blanket statements. This was a mistake in 2016. People who were actually from Pennsylvania were shouting from the rooftops that PA was in play, but no one was really listening. Every state has it's own unique voting quirks.

EXACTLY r214. We ARE in the states being discussed. As in 2016, they are choosing not to listen. The result will end up the same and everyone will wonder where it all went wrong.

Democrats must focus intensely on states where there are Democratic governors. The GOP cheats by blocking Dems from voting in states where they control the governorship.

Every state is a numbers game. Dems can win if they can activate their base and over perform. Those claiming that the swing states are more pro Trump than ever aren’t focused on our base which is what turned out in the last three years.

How in the hell are there even red states at this point? Motherfuckers, if you don't have millions of dollars in your wallet, you have no business voting GOP. They aren't for you. Your obsession with your skin color won't protect you from the policies that the GOP pushes which will eventually kill or bankrupt you. the overwhelming majority of Republicans don't have the income to justify their vote. Idiots. Racist idiots.

R217, the GOP have successfully gotten people to equate religious identity with their political affiliation. How often do you see something change their religious affiliation? Some will peel off but for most, it’s fused with their fundamental belief system.

R217, we still have red states because of racism. That's it basically. Red states lost their racist war, but cling to their racists beliefs. One party supports their racism, and it isn't the Democrats.

Well, they need to realize that the only color that matters is green and if you don't have a lot of it, you're a fool to vote GOP. Trump in no way, shape or form relates to them beyond playing to their prejudice.

Biden will get more than Obama did in 2012.

You're crazy r221. Millions of Obama voters are gone and not coming back. Why vote red? Two words: illegal immigration. If you think that's not destroying our country than you're an uneducated moron.

[quote] How in the hell are there even red states at this point? Motherfuckers, if you don't have millions of dollars in your wallet, you have no business voting GOP.

As has been mentioned before, in our two party system, by definition, there is no other major party that is in opposition to the Democratic Party. It’s an absurd fantasy to think we will have a nationwide one party system. Whether it’s the Republican Party or some party yet unformed, its views will be different from the Democrats and its purpose, among other things, will be to thwart the Democrats’ plans. People need to grow up and understand that.

Illegal immigrants are the one stacking the benches with far-right justices? Illegal immigrants are the ones constantly giving bailouts to the wealthiest? Stop making excuses for assholes who have been voting Republican for DECADES and who are the reason we go into fucking wars that never should've happened.

You're such an imbecile. You're literally those assholes who used to stand outside southern schools screaming at black kids trying to get an education. Don't ever fucking think you're on the right side of history. Shithead.

As long as Joe keeps his mouth shut, he'll keep this lead. The minute he opens it and all kinds of gibberish comes out, that lead will go down in a heartbeat

He can't even say a complete sentence

R225 You've just described Donald Trump perfectly.

D225 there has never been one instance of. Biden speaking gibberish and you know it.

R225 at r227.

Illegal immigration has kept wages decimated for 40 years shithead. Thank them for chasing people out of the Democrat party, they cost you the 2016 election and will do so again. Wake up.

I think you need to wake up R229

You’re on the losing side of facts and humanity. You’re also on the losing side of history, rallying around an inhuman despot with glee. We all see you.. and we won’t forget.

Oh R229

To rebut your nonsensical response, you know what has decimated wages over the last 40 years?? It’s fucking greed! Corporation revenues are higher than ever. Net profits are through the roof. CEOs make obscene salaries and bonuses, wholly undeserved. Yet worker’s wages never budge. It isn’t due to illegal immigration, you asshole! Even you’re not that stupid to believe that...and neither are we!

I've got a degree in political science dumbass. Try again.

Maybe we should punish all those corporations and CEOs hiring illegal immigrants. That'd stop illegal immigration right quick.

Oh my god R232, a degree in political science!!! A throwaway degree, no different than philosophy. You can justify your opinion however you want, but it doesn’t make you any less of an asshole. You clearly have the same intellect and empathy as your lord and savior Pussy Grabber Jesus.

I’d like to see Biden move back to the center when it comes to illegal immigration.

The media are salivating at oppotunities to tear down Biden so it’s more of a horse race.

Yeah, but its not r234 and we both know that. I'm all for holding employers responsible too. Very harsh measures should be taken on both ends to stop this decimation of the middle class. Unfortunately liberals (most) now put the welfare of foreign nationals over that of its own struggling citizens. Yeah, I'M the one on the wrong side of history.

One more thing, R229

How is your Wisconsin prediction looking now ?? You still so fucking sure it’s going for Trump?

The Wisconsin Supreme Court win bodes well for Biden & the Democrats.

Some excerpts from the NYT analysis:

[quote]The victory, by upward of 120,000 votes as of Monday night, came as a shock to Republicans and Democrats alike in Wisconsin, where contests for president, governor and the state’s high court in the last four years have all been decided by about 30,000 votes or less. It followed weeks of Democratic anger over Republicans’ insistence on holding elections amid the coronavirus pandemic.

[quote]Wisconsin’s map on Monday night looked like a dream general election result for former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., the presumptive Democratic nominee — stronger than typical for Democrats in the suburbs and a respectable showing among the state’s blue-collar white voters in rural counties.

. . .

[quote]The decisive Democratic win offered a signal that the party, highly energized and mobilized heading into 2020, could organize and execute a winning get-out-the-vote program against strident Republican efforts to limit voter turnout in a narrowly divided state widely expected to be crucial in this fall’s presidential election.

[quote]Ms. Karofsky’s victory suggests Democrats have built a superior turnout operation in a state where elections are decided on the margins.

. . .

[quote]In Wisconsin’s 10 largest counties, Ms. Karofsky improved on the 2019 liberal Supreme Court candidate’s performance by at least five percentage points in nine of them. She flipped two such counties, Winnebago in the state’s Fox Valley, and Brown, which includes Green Bay.

[r239] and that election is about the progressives.

[quote]>>The rape accusation has been around for weeks now, it's not going to catch on.

[quote}>It already has. Are you just playing stupid? The NY Times has it everywhere. The public is talking about him raping someone, fondling children, and not knowing where the hell he is.

The public is not talking about these things. They really aren't. I know you BernieBros have for some reason forgotten there is a pandemic and this week is its peak, but that's what everyone is talking about, not some sore loser BernieBro with accusations from 1993.

Right now on the front page of NYT, CNN, NBC, ABC, and Google News, there is nothing about this accusation. Almost nothing about Biden at all, except a story on NBC about him choosing a running made. It's all about the pandemic, Trump's meltdown, North Korea, the economy. The NYT has nothing on the front page about Biden and browsing their Twitter shows they never had it "everywhere."

[quote]It’s going to be a blowout for Trump.

You're the one who wants Trump as president, not me. I'm going to actively work to keep him from being reelected. You're going to sit online and whine like a little bitch.

That's okay, we'll do all the heavy lifting, little bitch. We'll save your whiny bitch ass. You're welcome.

[quote]How in the hell are there even red states at this point?

Gerrymandering, voter suppression, rightwing fundies, the political influence of churches, corruption. That's basically it.

They do try to make their own reality, don't they, R241? Of course the story isn't "everywhere," as the major news outlets are giving this a pass and none of "the public" are talking about Biden "fondling children." Our trolls really are inept, aren't they? As for a "blowout," neither side is going to get a "blowout." That's not the way national elections work in these highly partisan times.

The Democratic Supreme Court victory in Wisconsin definitely bodes well for Biden, though, as Republicans did everything they possibly could to suppress voter turnout and still lost. The margin of victory there was both surprising and reassuring. The person that Karofsky beat, Dan Kelly, was the incumbent, appointed by Scott Walker and endorsed by Donald Trump. And known for things like comparing slavery to affirmative action. Getting him off the bench was great for Wisconsin.

Did the Republicans decide the nepotism story about Hunter they were manufacturing hit too close to home, with Jared and Republican Barbie, and would bring up how Cheeto was impeached so they created a rape story to throw at Biden? They probably should have put more thought into it, since Trump has so many rape and cheating accusations, including the rape of one of his own wives, that running with actual facts on sexual assaults won't help them out.

It's a pathetic opponent who is incapable of winning on their own merit and alloqs or encourages their people to a start smear campaign to try to win. Only losers do that.

Good! I hope joe biden and the DNC can pull this off.

[quote]I will take great pleasure in laughing at you when you are proven dead wrong.

So you will take great pleasure in Trump gaining a second term. I think we now know enough about you to rule you out as a sentient being r210.

Play with your clay. And for god's sake don't eat it.

[QUOTE] The media are salivating at oppotunities to tear down Biden so it’s more of a horse race.

They started tearing Joe down before he could make his official campaign announcement. And yet here we are. Contrary to popular belief, the media are no friends to Democrats. Joe will march to victory despite them. The voters don’t give a damn about the New York Times. They love Joe.

Do you guys remember when Republican trolls tried to smear Warren, during that hot second that she was the fav to win, with allegations of extra-marital hook ups with some trainer?

I guess if she had gotten to where Joe is, that guy would have recanted and claimed instead she forced him. We would be hearing 'RapinHontas' or whatever dumbshit soundbite Cheeto and Fox would have though was clever, but actually isn't.

The Republicans and Russians will try to hurt Joe where he’s strongest - with women and with black voters. They know it will be tougher to hurt him with black voters so they have to make him unappealing to women. That’s why they’ve dropped Hunter. Women actually feel for Joe in the concerned dad and wayward son dynamic. So they will keeping hammer him as a violent rapist even though that couldn’t be further from the truth. The voters won’t go for it.

At best, he's your touchy-feely uncle, but the one who gives you a 5 dollar bill.

I started listening to his podcast "Here's the Deal". It's comforting, and I like that I'm adding to the numbers of listeners: maybe it'll become a story, that people are listening.

[quote]Thank them for chasing people out of the Democrat[sic] party,

There it is, ladies and gentlemen. You fucking, deplorable cunt. And it isn't illegal immigrants keeping wages down, you cockroach. tre you fucking kidding me with the lies you spread to push that parasitic, orange supremacist leader of yours?

Are*

Does anyone doubt this deplorable troll likes his own posts? That's a function Muriel needs to correct. I constantly see Deplorable posts get multiple likes within seconds of it being posted. I know we have idiots here, but give me a break with the multiple likes so quickly and it isn't even anything profound. Just the usual xenophobic crap and lies about how the "Democrat party" wants to take everything from "real" Americans to give the Mexican picking produce...

As they witness Trump and the Republicans fucking raid the country's coffer on behalf of corporations.

Just got a notification that Obama is going to endorse Biden today.

I feel like the guy saying he can't wait for Trump to win so he can say "I told you so" is the same guy who trolled the board with that in 2016. It's very similar, at any rate. That guy in 2016 pretended to be in the Midwest or in Pennsylvania, depending on the thread.

Whether he's the same guy or not, the Bros on social media are already talking about how to hurt Biden so he won't win, but hopefully we won't have Bernie himself helping to sabotage the race like he did in 2016. They hate Democrats more than fascists.

BernieBros who would let Trump win, have no real ideology if they're that stupid. If you believe in a plant-based lifestyle and you reject the vegetarian for eating cheese in favor of the butcher slaughtering a cow right in front of you, then you're a shithead with no real beliefs. Just a petulant, unthinking tool.

Who gives a shit what trolls do? Just block them. Not even worth discussing.

OMG - I'm sorry, but this is everything

Uncle Joe's A Little Monster!!!

R248, I watched the video. It was weird, like the guy making the claim could barely keep from laughing.

Biden has a podcast called “Here’s the Deal.” He does it once a week. He talks with one person per week. I just heard about this, I’m going to check it out.

Hollywood needs to stay the fuck out of this election. That means you, Lady Caca.

[quote]The stupidity by some is just astounding.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

[quote]I'll bet you're nowhere near the midwest are you [R208]?

I grew up and went to college in Missouri, moron.

[quote]Those who are, know better.

So you know better than the Democratic voters in Wisconsin over the past three years, voters who have routinely been handing victories to Democratic candidates, most recently the Democratic candidate for the Wisconsin Supreme Court. Got it.

[quote]I will take great pleasure in laughing at you when you are proven dead wrong.

You're already "proven dead wrong" and, trust me, I'm laughing.

r262 Uncle Joe has a podcast?

I'm definitely going to check that out.

Remember folks, vote blue no matter what you do!

R262, I just said that.

[quote] Hollywood needs to stay the fuck out of this election. That means you, Lady Caca.

She just raised hundreds of millions of dollars, you dumb fuck. The media has already dubbed her the face of the crisis. She’s done more than anyone as a private citizen, calling every CEO in the country and getting them to donate millions.

R248 - I think that you are referring to that freak Jacob Wohl and his older "boyfriend" who have both desperately attempted to smear Liz, Kamala and Pete in the past (with comedic results). The...LOL..."press conference" that they gave from the front steps of the sugar daddy's townhouse attempted to claim that Warren had an affair with a young, strapping male escort (and Purple Heart recipient no less!! Hahaha!) with an extreme penchant for BDSM. The "personal trainer" story was against Kamala Harris (announced from the same front steps) and her supposed penchant for very young, very hung men. As with most of the rabid Rethug trolls - Wohl and his boyfriend were just projecting their own gay fantasies onto the two Senators. Jacob is a nut-job who hilariously claims to have been bestowed an honorary law degree from Harvard.

[quote]Hollywood needs to stay the fuck out of this election. That means you, Lady Caca.

Why do you allow the right to dictate the rules? Why is it OK for every fucking right-wing celebrity to speak out or RUN for office and win based on the votes of the same assholes who tell celebrities (only when they're liberal) to keep out of politics?

Enabling cunt. You're ones who told us "this is why Trump won" if we dared to call out those KKK rallies Trump held and his disgusting supporters who we all fucking know why they supported that supremacist cancer on this nation and the world.

That's right, R268! Thanks for reminding me (us?) of the details of just some of the nasty, lying shithead Republican schemes against Democrats this race. Pathetic trash.

Wohl was also the guy with the fake company "Surefire Intelligence" he tried to use to smear Robert Mueller. You might remember he used a photo of Christoph Waltz, of all people, for his supposed "Financial Investigator" in Zurich. You really cannot make up shit this stupid.

Here's a list of all his laughably awful smear attempts.

Mitch McConnell is taking a back seat in the Senate and Donald Trump is going STRAIGHT DOWN THE SHITTER!

Hooray for 2020! Good riddance to bad rubbish!

Remember when Hillary Rodham Clinton had an 11 point lead over Donald Trump?

Is Biden leading in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania? That's all the a really matters.

[QUOTE] Is Biden leading in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania?

Yes.

We also need to keep an eye on Arizona, where Joe is very competitive. While those three states are huge, flipping Arizona from red to blue could give us some insurance. Then we might only need Pennsylvania and Michigan, which will be easier than Wisconsin IMO. But Joe has many paths to 270, and Trump has very few.

Yeah, Arizona could very well turn blue this year. Biden is up there in a number of polls.

Bump

Wow! Even North Carolina?

A Florida win for Joe would be huge! He can easily do it, too. All he has to do is not die, and not screw-up in a big way. But if he did lose it, and picked up North Carolina, that would be huge, too.

The day after the election, we have to start lobbying for prosecution of Trump . “Lock him up!”, I like the sound of that.

NC is a possibility, but I think AZ is more likely. Remember, Obama won NC in 2008, so it’s not far-fetched. NC is the definition of a purple state (though it’s been gerrymandered to within an inch of its life). It and AZ turning blue are an example of how the electoral map is shifting (along with the red-tilting of Midwestern states like Ohio and Iowa, which used to be swing states, but really aren’t anymore).

didn't all the polls say Hillary would beat Trump?

Doesn't it come down to how a few thousand people in key states and they haven't even decided yet?

R282 Yes. And of course, Hillary actually did beat Trump in the popular vote, by nearly 3 million.

The last time the GOP ran and won a fair election predates my lifetime, and I'm an old bastard.

We're in uncharted territory, if unemployment hits 30 percent by late summer, all bets are off. An incumbent president has never won reelection during a depression/recession that started under his watch. Keep Joe on script, keep the speeches short, and talk about that all-star cabinet with *big* names.

2016 was a fluke. 50k people in WI, MI, and PA didn't bother to vote because HRC was a shoo-in. Repugs suffered staggering losses in 2018, 2019, and just last week in WI. Dump's approval rating has never exceeded 46 percent.

The cheating by the cult will be unprecedented.

[quote]2016 was a fluke. 50k people in WI, MI, and PA didn't bother to vote because HRC was a shoo-in.

Those 50k people really hated Hillary. That’s why she needs to be kept as far away from Joe Biden as possible. Keep her off TV and radio too.

R283, well, that's kind of my point; sure, she did win the popular vote (yay!)

But what good is a poll saying someone's ahead and even if that person wins we still get a big fat orange turd in the oval office.

I'll vote for him because I can't watch this country circling the drain under Trump. BUT I think Biden is a perfect example of a career politician who cares nothing for anyone other than his family and friends. He is the perfect example of "The Swamp" but he's what we're offered as an alternative.

I voted for him in the Wisconsin primary last week and I almost choked doing it.

It’s great time for the electorate to be repulsed with the Republican Party. States will be redrawing congressional districts and a Democratic wave might influence state houses, too. The only reason republicans have as much power as they do right now is because of gerrymandering 10 years ago. There’s a lot of potential this election year.

[quote] 'll vote for him because I can't watch this country circling the drain under Trump. BUT I think Biden is a perfect example of a career politician who cares nothing for anyone other than his family and friends.

So I guess that’s why he broke with Obama, his president, and came out in favor of gay marriage, cajoling Obama to do the same? Because that somehow benefitted his “career” or his “family and friends?”

Where do these people get this shit from? What, becsuse he’s not “old man yelling at cloud” he must believe in nothing?

Joe is the very definition of a career politician who has made politics a career exactly because he does care about people. I can’t imagine how anyone could ever get the impression that Joe doesn’t care about people. I can’t think of a single reason to come up with that.

The most successful politicians are ambitious people who think highly of themselves and who enjoy the perks of the office, but we’re not electing a Pope, so I can’t see why any of this would matter. .

Biden ahead of Trump by 9 points in new Arizona poll:

April 14th, 2020

poll conducted by OH Predictive Insights

Biden (52)

Trump (43)

undecided (5)

Jack Burkina being Jacob Wahl's sugar daddy makes so much sense to me now. I should've figured that one out long ago.

The "press conference" they held where Burkina had his fly down the whole time was hilarious.

R295, that and this will never not be funny to me:

[quote]didn't all the polls say Hillary would beat Trump?

Not after the Comey letter. The state polls that updated quickly like New Hampshire showed her below Trump, and she only recovered to be tied with him on Election Day. In some states I recall she was still below Trump by Election Day, even if she'd lead for most of the campaign season. Unfortunately most states weren't polling quickly enough to reflect the Comey letter, only a few did, which I think was partly why the polling was so off by the day of the election.

In Pennsylvania it turned out that the middle of the state was under polled and came out in higher numbers than expected.

Nice overview of the VP pick list.

I have to reiterate what someone said above... Joe Biden is one of the few politicians who really does care about people. He never enriched himself while in office. He was habitually the poorest member of the Senate during his tenure. He didn’t start making money until after he was VP, through books and speeches. In fact, he was going to sell his home to cover the costs of cancer treatments for his son until Obama stepped in.

You may not agree with his politics, but Biden is a good guy, and that likability is what will carry him across the finish line.

Biden leads Trump by 10 points in Virginia:

(Hillary won by 5).

I think the state numbers are starting to look better than the national numbers. I don’t really care how close it is, 270 is 270.

Given that 28-30 % of this country is insane and will support Trump if he starts speaking in tongues and frothing at the mouth while having convulsions on live TV, Biden ought to be way ahead of him. 11 points is not good at this point. Biden ought to be leading him by 30 points. Biden needs to be over 60%.

Because more than half million people have this virus and tens of thousands are dead. He is responsible for that. Every bit of it. The unemployment, the collapsing economy, etc. He owns it.He thinks he can buy people with bullshit and these pitiful checks with his signature, and he is full of shit.

This is a result of the media. the media needs to do a better job. That CBS reporter who confronted him ought to be the rule, not the exception. And shame on the media for airing his fucking propaganda hour for free.

He gives all the dumbasses out here who only watch the evening news, the impression he' "in charge." As when he just "authorized" the states to reopen as they see fit. Then sends his attack mobs to deomnstrate against the governors he has been sabotaging. No testing, withholding equipment, etc. Fuck. Him. andevery living ass who still supports him.

The lead is down to 5 nationally in the latest Economist/YouGov poll.

"Down to?" The last three YouGov polls had Biden +4, Biden +6, and Biden +5. That's just noise. In any case, you always look at the poll aggregates, not just a single poll. And the recent polls are:

YouGov: Biden +5

Monmouth: Biden +4

Fox: Tied

CNBC: Biden +5

CNN: Biden +11

Quinnipiac: Biden +8

All of these are recent. The aggregate polling is that Biden leads Trump by 5.5 percentage points. There is literally just one national poll all year that has Trump leading, and that is an Emerson poll in February that had Trump +4, a major outlier.

Hope it’s true, but two words...Hillary Clinton🙀

[quote]Biden ought to be leading him by 30 points.

That is simply impossible in the current political climate. Each party’s nominee is guaranteed to get roughly 45-55% of the vote, regardless of who the actual nominees are. The days of landslide elections are long gone.

I hope Biden screams at the camera asking why he isn’t 50 points ahead.

Winning by a 5 point margin in a modern presidential election is a landslide. That's an Obama 2008 sized victory.

[QUOTE] Hope it’s true, but two words...Hillary Clinton

Five words: she’s not running this time. Joe Biden will not neglect Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. His campaign headquarters are in Pennsylvania, the state where he was born and raised. The Democratic National Convention is in Milwaukee. His VP might very well be the Governor of Michigan. This is not Hillary Clinton, who went the entire campaign without stepping foot in Wisconsin.

I'm still convinced there's a percentage of Trump voters who either hang up on polling companies or purposefully lie to them. No one seems to be able to poll them accurately.

Just make sure no fucking Dems run as Independents. Looking at you, Bern.

Once the American public gets a good look and listen at Slow Joe, Biden winning the election will be a no-go.

If so, R311, they haven't been showing up for other Republican candidates in 2017, 2018, and 2019. And, as we just saw in Wisconsin, in 2020.

Sorry, R313, but like the rest of your trolling here, that one is just incredibly lame. The American public has had decades of "good looks" at Joe Biden and they generally like what they see, which is why Trump is in real trouble and why Trump tried so hard to get a foreign country to open an investigation on him.

Really, r314?

Why didn't Biden win his last two Democratic primary elections for Prez?

The Joe Biden that people remember is not the one they will get in November. He can't even keep his fucking notes straight for television appearances.

As a plus, Biden's campaign isn't Hillary Clinton levels of awful, but he still has 7 months to get there!

Yes, really, R315. Because other Democratic candidates did better than he did. He's not running against them; he's running against Trump. This will be a referendum on Trump this year, not on Biden, and the voters, so far, really don't like what they see.

But hey, you go right on making up shit about Biden if that makes you feel better. Why just look how much better Trump is at speaking contemporaneously and not mixing up his fucking notes.

Oh, wait....

[quote]I'll look at the state-by-state numbers, thank you.

You mean the state by state numbers that show Biden winning? Those numbers?

If they have an opportunity to debate, Biden is done,

Trump is by far the worst debater of any presidential candidate I've ever seen.

[quote] R307: The days of landslide elections are long gone.

I think this election could be a landslide. At the link, possibly 333 to 204 electoral votes. Is that a landslide?

Remember that Hillary only lost by ~80,000 votes across three states. Biden will win them, as well as a few other states, including Florida. Most people understand that Trump‘s a disaster.

Trump doesn't debate. He berates, blames, whines and blows smoke up his ass, but he doesn't debate.

There will be no debates.

R303 "Given that 28-30 % of this country is insane and will support Trump if he starts speaking in tongues and frothing at the mouth while having convulsions on live TV"

That number is closer to the 40%. The crazification factor has gone up.

Why are there still idiots who keep mentioning Hillary's 2016 national poll lead as evidence that Joe's current poll lead will bottom out like hers did, even though at this point,EVERYONE knows that the national polls, while technically correct in 2016 (predicted she'd win by 3 points - which she did) are useless for the EC.

We all know this time around that it's state polls that matter, which is why those are the polls (PA, MI. WI, AZ, etc) that we're now focusing when trying to predict Trump v Biden.

Why I ask? Why?

R322, if Trump refuses to debate, then Biden ought to go on alone. Speak for 20 minutes, then take questions. People will tune in, and Trump will look like a coward and a fool. Especially if Biden labels his as so. Tell Trump that, and he’ll appear.

The polls were accurate in 2016.

Imbeciles always ignore that there is a 5% margin of error in polls, and those are the margins that Al Gore and Hillary Clinton both lost under.

But both Gore and Hillary WON the popular vote.

That polls now show Biden spanking Trump by margins GREATER than the margin of error in Pennsylvania and Ohio means that Biden is favored to win by modern "landslide" standards.

I would not put martial law cancelling the 2020 elections past Donald Trump or his criminal accomplices in the Senate and Supreme Court.

COVID-19 would be a perfect excuse. 2020 is going to get REALLY bumpy, no matter what.

I have a feeling Dump will appear. He def would look like he chickened out if he didn’t.

God I hope he picks a great VP, not some harridan who’ll alienate the key swing voters in the Midwest.

[quote]Biden ought to be leading him by 30 points.

We live among Trump turd-devouring assholes.

I agree with R307 & R309.

The days of Presidential nominees winning landslides are over -- for both parties. In a polarized electorate where each party is guaranteed to win at least 45-47% of the vote that just isn't possible.

A 7-point win (which is what Obama got in 2008) is about as large a popular vote win as a Presidential winner can probably get today. The days of winning 45 or 49 states are over. FDR won 46 in 1936, LBJ 44 in 1964, Nixon 49 in 1972, and Reagan 49 in 1984. Those winning margins are now out of reach.

The last President to hit the 40-state mark was George H. W. Bush in 1988. And since then no President has even reached the 35-state mark.

So neither Biden nor Trump should be expected to win a landslide anytime soon.

Harris favorability.

Duckworth favorability.

Klobuchar favorability.

This is the reason why Trumptards are panicking and willing to sacrifice lives in order to open the wconomy.

Warren favorability.

Harris's rating from the same site that you used for Duckworth (YouGov):

Thanks. I went with RCP for the others because it was the first result for them. I went with YouGov for Duckworth for the same talk.

Note that YouGov is one poll. RCP is a weighted average of several recent polls.

Senior Democratic party insiders gave The Post the following odds:

• Amy Klobuchar 5 to 2

• Gretchen Whitmer 4 to 1

• Kamala Harris 9 to 1

• Tammy Duckworth 9 to 1

• Michelle Obama 15 to 1

• Elizabeth Warren 20 to 1

• Stacey Abrams 25 to 1

• Catherine Cortez Masto 25 to 1

• Michelle Lujan Grisham 33 to 1

*ARIZONA SENATE update*:

April 15, 2020

Mark Kelly (D) has widened his lead over Martha McSally (R) in the latest poll.

poll conducted by OH Predictive Insights.

Mark Kelly 51%

Martha McSally 42%

7% undecided

R341 I believe AZ will be blue in November.

R342, the fact that both Biden & Kelly are leading in Arizona is a good sign for the Democrats so far.

Kelly appears to be growing his lead over McSally, and I think Biden has been ahead of Trump in 6 Arizona polls now.

Martha McSally needs to be flushed straight down the McShitter.

I think Cindy McCain will endorse Biden in Arizona and that will guarantee him a win in the state. He's been a very close friend of the family for decades, and of course she loathes Trump.

[quote]At the link, possibly 333 to 204 electoral votes. Is that a landslide?

Not really. The 1972, 1980, 1984, and (to a lesser extent) 1988 elections were true landslides.

In 1972, Nixon won every state except Massachusetts; Reagan won all but 4 states in 1980 and all but 1 in 1984; and GHW Bush won 40 out of 50 states in 1988. That kind of lopsided victory won’t happen now.

[QUOTE] I think Cindy McCain will endorse Biden in Arizona and that will guarantee him a win in the state. He's been a very close friend of the family for decades, and of course she loathes Trump.

That would be huge if the McCains came out for Biden. Flipping Arizona really puts a hurt on Trump’s chances to hit 270.

If AZ flips, then Texas republicans will go into major panic mode about their future prospects. They already see the writing on the wall due to quickly changing demographics, but if AZ flips this year it would speed up the process even more. Texas latinos and Arizona latinos are very similar politically.

Who would be the least polarizing female VP?

Probably one that nobody’s heard of.

A person that Trump will not attack does not exist.

If the polls continue the way they have been then Biden gets a substantial electoral win. If the state polls continue to favor Biden heading into the summer conventions then it wouldn't surprise me if Republicans do some behind the scenes negotiations/pressure to allow Trump to step down on his own terms and they end up running another nominee or Pence. Trump can always use the excuse that his real estate "empire" was hit hard by CV19 and he needs to return to "work his magic" or some other bullshit.

Hate me if you must, but either Klobuchar or Warren would be his best pick. If he wants a woman f color there is no way he'd bypass Kamala to reach for Stacy Abrams who couldn't win a state wide race. She seems like she wants to be a political celebrity like Jesse Jackson. Jesse could have run for and won offices in Illinois, but chose President. An old Pol I asked about it said Jesse could afford to "lose" if he ran for PResident, but if he took a gamble on a Senate race and lost his "brand" would suffer.

I think he’ll pick a (relatively) young woman, so not Warren. Kamala Harris or Catherine Cortez Masto would be my best guesses. Abrams doesn’t have the experience. I think he’ll go with a Senator (Harris, Cortez Masto) or a Governor (the governors of Michigan and New Mexico are women and both supposedly on Biden’s shortlist).

The Governor of Michigan is currently deeply unpopular and facing a possible recall.

[quote] The Governor of Michigan is currently deeply unpopular WITH IDIOTIC REPUBLICANS and facing a possible recall.

FIXED!

See the MAGA fools protesting.

Governors win high marks for coronavirus response, outpacing Trump

. . . Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) has seen her job approval rating jump to 60 percent, according to a Marketing Resource Group poll, and just 22 percent disapprove. Whitmer's approval rating is 15 points higher than Trump's in the battleground state; Trump dismissively referred to "that woman from Michigan" after Whitmer complained about the lack of support from the federal government . . .

Her approval has collapsed after her latest bizarre declarations.

Bizarre declarations? More bizarre than Trump’s?

Really, R358? Then it should be easy for you to show that. Got any actual data?

I agree re Warren's age. Biden knows he's old, so he must want someone much younger as VP to balance things a bit.

Yes, the news from Arizona is good. As the Trump-loving incumbent, Martha McSally, has declined further in the race for Senate.

I think Arizona is atoning for all of the years supporting John McCain's disastrous horseshit.

They didn't have the guts or honesty to remove McCain when he was alive, so now they're making both senators Democrats!

Better late than never, I suppose.

Polls showed the majority believed Hillary Clinton won the debates.

Deplorables are given undue weight by the electoral college -- that's why Trump's 2016 victory didn't reflect the debates or popular vote.

Just because red-state hicks weigh 2 to 3 times as much as the average American doesn't mean their votes should!

Some good news.

Don’t tell me you’re fantasizing about beating Moscow Mitch, R365.

Do the people in KY who vote Republican (which is most of them) know how full of shit they are or are they delusional and stupid as hell when it comes to their hypocrisy? The fucking state DEPENDS on mooching for survival. How the fuck do they have the nerve to act all "conservative" screaming about "them libruhls with their hands out" when they're shitheads who contribute NOTHING and wouldn't survive without "libruhl" money?

How the fuck do you call yourself a Republican when you and your state are useless shits with no money and only take? Why aren't these assholes called out more?

[quote]Don’t tell me you’re fantasizing about beating Moscow Mitch

His position isn't as secure as you might think.

It's disgusting that his position is secure at all. He's such a vile creature.

The people of Kentucky want to vote moscow mitch out of office. Mitch cheats to keep his seat. This time the Dems have a ground game there to help Kentucky kick his ass out.

Trump not even campaigning. Dealing with virus. Ever heard of the convention “bump”? By publicizing this now as if he’s nominated Biden is muting that effect. Expect him to falter after the convention. He should stfu and support virus relief efforts. He has lost his mental acuity. Will be destroyed in a debate -if fairly conducted.

[quote]Trump not even campaigning. Dealing with virus. Ever heard of the convention “bump”?

Trump’s daily press briefings are two-hour campaign propaganda rallies.

R370 What do you know about Kentucky?

Whoever really controls the world needs to make damn sure Dump loses. These "I won't vote for Biden because he's uninspiring" pussies can blow me. It's getting UGLY, threats of violence, threats of civil war, and it's just firing up. A long, hot summer awaits us.

[quote]Trump not even campaigning. Dealing with virus.

ROFL.... What are you watching? Of course he's campaigning! That's what those press conferences are. And no, he's not "dealing with virus" [sic]. That's why his brief polling bump is disappearing.

[quote]Ever heard of the convention “bump”? By publicizing this now as if he’s nominated

Um... Biden is the Democratic candidate. It would be silly of him to pretend otherwise.

[quote]Biden is muting that effect.

Oh, nonsense. The convention effect isn't from the official nomination; it's from everything else surrounding that announcement.

[quote]Expect him to falter after the convention. He should stfu and support virus relief efforts. He has lost his mental acuity. Will be destroyed in a debate -if fairly conducted.

You really have no clue, do you?

[quote]Trump not even campaigning. Dealing with virus.

In week one (when he finally took it seriously after months of "hoax" bullshit), he showed up at the CDC in a MAGAt hat. Fuck you. He does nothing but campaign or politicize every fucking thing he does. He's a a cockroach who expects a "bouquet of flowers" for doing "boom boom" without missing the toilet.

Bump for the right-wing troll running amok today.

R345 that would be beautiful.

What other Republicans can we hope will endorse Biden?

If Bush has any balls he would. We know that entire family hates Trump.

The Economic Poll Trump Licker is getting ahead of himself today.

And now Biden's lead is 13 percent.

What could be wrong with the American people?

And those polls keep soaring higher for Biden!