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The situation in the front line for the working poor in the US.

Brad Davis Yes one of those stories WELL WORTH READING

"A friend of mine who works as a health professional in a NYC hospital just presented me with a VERY GRIM picture of what is happening in the hospital she works in.

The neighborhood the hospital serves is working poor. The typical patient being admitted with symptoms is asthmatic, diabetic. Alcoholics are also disproportionally represented. Like most working poor of NYC, their diet is usually abysmal. The number of patients and the severity of cases are completely different from the typical flu of past years. As opposed to having 8 - 12 patients, she is easily seeing over 20. The work load is pushing all to the breaking point. Patients come in the morning, go into ARDS, and are dead that night. Then even more patients are admitted, and go on follow identical trajectories. The age group most affected is 40's and up, with those and their 50's and 60's having a very poor prognosis. Once they start to fail, they go extremely rapidly.

As a consequence, the MDs are treating the patients even less aggressively, and even seem to be afraid of entering the same space of the patient. None of the innovative protocols, like megadose Vit C, chloroquine and related drugs, used in other nations with success, even in other NYC hospitals, are being used.

The nurses say that if tested, they would all certainly test positive for the virus. But there is no way the system or the patients can afford not to have them there.

I asked her if these patients usually got the flu shot, and she affirmed, almost all did, and the asthmatics do as they are especially afraid of the flu. One colleague, a nurse or respiratory therapist, shared with her that it seemed that those most hard hit had received the flu shot.

While I have offered the perspective of dissident MDs who have dealt with this virus, often specialists in infectious disease, providing ample statistical data to support their positions, the severity of this virus will present as differently from nation to nation as it will from pt to pt. It will reflect the state of the medical infrastructure, the willingness of the medical community to adopt novel, innovative approaches, the general health of the local population, the environment, and especially what kind of medical interventions were used prior to infection. For instance, what is known by very few is that before the advent of asthma meds which "manage" the symptoms, asthma was rarely fatal.

None of this discredits the likelihood this is a manufactured event. In fact, it is entirely in line with research stating that it appears to have originated from a bioweapons lab, the existence of which simply cannot be denied. It also does not validate the authoritarian policy of quarantining the entire population, as opposed to the most vulnerable or actively infected. It does render as acceptable the collateral damage of plunging the entire economy into depression, jeopardizing the ability of the entire population to survive. It does not invalidate the hypothesis that the virus is being used to promote profitable Pharma drugs in the pipeline, even as other treatments appear to be effective, safe, and available.

However, this most recent information coming from an unimpeachable source, has convinced me that the virus is definitely not a hoax, not a nothing burger, and most definitely NOT just another bad flu. It is certainly something that will demand effective treatment.

The corrupt American medical system is completely unlikely to rise to the occasion. It is a system primarily to maximize shareholder profit, not to restore health to the sick. For Pharma indoctrinated MDs, necessity will not become the mother of invention. In the failed state of America, it will be up to decentralized, individual efforts to discover and implement successful treatments for vulnerable populations, and prophylaxis for the rest.

Given the political context that we live in, those efforts are likely to be met with active hostility, and do not at all conform with the goals of those in power."

by Anonymousreply 2March 30, 2020 12:40 PM

Various strains are now identified, as well.

Unfortunately, this is the expected trajectory. I am not surprised. Here’s the bottom line, only the people who can afford to stay at home and have minimal contact with the outside world will have a better, not guaranteed, chance of making it out of this, health wise. Other than that, everyone is up for grabs.

The horrible but scientific part about this, is that the people who survive will serve as a natural immunity in their environment and communities. People must become infected, and clear the virus, at a certain percentage, for this to become manageable. That ALSO means that people will die, in order for that natural immunity to proliferate.

This is LITERALLY natural selection at work.

Globally? This will run for about 18 months to 2 years, before we are out of the woods in pandemic, acute numbers. Once it becomes chronic and cyclical, as far as spread and contagion, like any version of a survivable flu, we have reached peak contagion/infection/survival/death numbers. That’s when we start seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.

Just based on numbers, NOT based on any of my personal feelings or beliefs, because I am NOT a sociopath, nor a monster, the faster this goes through society and all populations, the better. And it will happen, because that’s how these scenarios work out, whether a bubonic plague, or a flu, or whatever virus we highlight.

Once peak happens, manageable numbers happen, because either a bunch of people have survived it, and/or, a bunch of people have died as a result of it.

Fucked up, yes?

by Anonymousreply 1March 30, 2020 11:16 AM

We don’t peddle in conspiracy theories here, nutbag.

Take your psychosis to Stormfront or whereverthefuck.

by Anonymousreply 2March 30, 2020 12:40 PM
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