What will Covid-19 do to the entertainment industry?

* Can't see people going to crowded places.

It goes so much beyond that, OP. Consider that even TV shows with very small casts may have hundreds of cast and crew working together. Makeup, hair and wardrobe people touching actors all day, props touched by who knows what. Productions have been halted all over. Whatever new content we get in the next few months is content that's already been finished, nothing new is going to get made. Movie theater goers had been waning for years and the movie theater industry was already hanging on by a thread - no indie ones will survive this. Until there's a vaccine or effective treatment for this, the entertainment industry is fucked really really deeply.

They have to adapt. The UK's National Theatre, The Bolshoi Ballet, the Met, and the Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra can go live into theaters around the world. Why can't Broadway and Off-Broadway?

"The churches will be packed at Easter"

[quote]What will Covid-19 do to the entertainment industry?

Make it even more insufferable and virtue-signaling.

I work in the industry. There's not a single tv show or film in production as we speak. Netflix cancelled all productions across the globe till further notice. Before going to streaming, shows need to be filmed. I know i know.

Homemade celeb sex tapes will become more mainstream.

[quote]The Film (movies in theatres), Theatre (Broadway, etc.) and Music (concerts, etc.) are pretty much fucked.

Most of that is shit anyway.

& maybe once all this is over people won't want to watch endlessly violent movies and TV shows.

Imagine if movies and TV became a little more thoughtful, intelligent and adult.

I haven't gone to the movies in years, and my interest in scripted TV had already dwindled to almost nil. There is already a huge glut of stuff that nobody had time to watch - maybe some older programming will find a new wave of popularity. I watch a lot of YouTube and I'm sure it will become even more popular now. Talk shows, animation, and documentaries can still be produced.

I feel sorry for the "little people" who work in the industry, but not for the producers who poured obscene amounts of money into shitfest films or the mediocre "stars" riding this out in their mansions. Fuck them.

[quote]I feel sorry for the "little people" who work in the industry, but not for the producers who poured obscene amounts of money into shitfest films or the mediocre "stars" riding this out in their mansions. Fuck them.

I SO agree.

What r6 said. This is going to have long lasting effects in terms of the movies and TV shows that come out within the next year or so. Nothing is filming right now, so the only content is going to be the stuff that has already finished production but hasn't been released yet.

I work in the industry also. The project that I was on was going to have extensive reshoots (they're changing the ending) right now, but got "pushed" to the end of May. All of my friends in the industry are freaking out. At this point, I'm so glad I don't have a house and kids, and also listened to you bitches when you guys were low level freaking out in mid/late January.

It will advance streaming considerably while furthering the decline of theatres, movies and live. I'm hoping it kills some Hollywood royalty, just for the spectacle, and because I'd like to see the Hollywood cancer ended in my lifetime.

Also it will be interesting to see how many B-list and below minor celebs turn to actual prostitution in the coming months and years.

R14 more like c-list.

Hopefully this prompts the studios (film and television) to start putting more of their massive archives on streaming services. This is the perfect time to do so.

The classical music world is not entirely without hope, at least.

Does Vancouver have shelter in place? If I don't get my fix of Fall Harvest and Christmas movies from Hallmark this year, I will be...

While I am happy there's streaming, TV just isn't a great medium to watch what are supposed to be live events. Heck, it's barely good enough to watch a movie.

I hope it collapses and we get to see celebrities whoring themselves out on Instagram.

[quote]Most of that is shit anyway.

But enough of it isn't.

i"m a classical musician, had a professional career for over thirty years. Our career, performing live concerts for ticket buyers, many times subscription ticket buyers, is for all intents over forever. after this all clears up, and the aged audience who hasn't died is well enough to go to performances they will still likely be guided not to gather in public places for fear of flare ups. getting FUNDING for these projects, especial large ones like grand opera, symphony orchestra and ballet, will nigh be impossible. givers won't be giving after the economic upheaval and foundations will be reeling.

ALL of classical music will need to be entirely overhauled structurally, and what will be left afterwards I have no idea.

r17, we have hope, but no money

I feel bad for the industry workers, technicians, writers and so on but sincerely hope the tone deaf attitudes of overpaid idiots in entertainment and sports leads to a lessening of the brain dead worship of celebrity. Never have so many of them seemed so obscenely spoilt and utterly out of touch.

I fear much loss. Amongst the younger set.

R25, watch yourself, toots!

r24, you DO realize for every one of those "overpaid idiots in entertainment" there are hundreds and thousands of now unemployed dancers, actors, musicians of every flavor, stage hands, set designers, costume and hair designers. . . .the list goes on and on. "idiots in entertainment" is an enormous industry in the US, for some counts, the largest. yes, there are some overpaid idiots, but speaking on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of others of us, go fucking jump in a lake.

[quote] Whatever new content we get in the next few months is content that's already been finished, nothing new is going to get made.

On the brighter side of things, screenwriters or just writers will get to sit on their ass for awhile and not have much else to do except produce new content.

In my opinion, it’s all going to get worse: the virus, the economy, the violence, the fallout.

Much like after 9/11, I expect entertainment will become more depressing and soulless. TV and Movies will become more extreme with the ugly, poverty-ridden, identity politics, non-escapism, sarcastic, Juno-esque bullshit we’ve had to endure since the early 2000s. Movies used to be an escape, no more.

I’m sure country music will capture the anti-Urban, fuck the Big City movement that is sure to ensue with much more identity music about “🎶Drankin a beer with that old hound on the front porch lookin at Mama dead from COVID she caught at Walmart and buried underneath that live oak tree where I swung on a tire as a kid, my beautiful lady’s inside with our little precious one on her hip and my buddies since I was 4 years old are coming over and we’re going to drive my Chevy truck around drunk off Coors light, I’m so glad I live a country life and I ain’t no big city queer spreading germs everywhere. Yeah, yeah I’m a Country man🎶“

What R22 said. This epidemic is especially damaging to performing arts that survive by a slim margin in good times. Dance, opera, classical music, etc. I worry especially about regional and off-Bway theatres. (Broadway will probably find a way to reinvent itself--it always does, as there's enormous money to be made.)

If we lose older audiences (out of illness, death, or fear), the performing arts do not have an enormous following among younger audiences to fill the gap.

to those in the business on this thread. Do you think projects that were in production but not finished will resume production or will those shows just be cancelled. I am thinking of limited series type things like Netflix. Thanks

So true, R14. It's a slippery slope from acting too prostitution.

R14 They've already been doing that for years.

*acting to prostitution.

I think big stars will disappear. They are too boring and scripted for today’s audience. You’ll see a lot more ‘niche’/outcast celebrities like the Tiger King guy, who are more entertaining than the average celebrity.

You Debbie Downers, especially the ones trashing an entire industry, can all. Go. Fuck. Yourselves.

R36 um you’re fucking insane.

[quote]Also it will be interesting to see how many B-list and below minor celebs turn to actual prostitution in the coming months and years.

I resemble that remark.

Don't worry, guys. I'm still here!

How about a remake of Parent Trap where a 30-something Lohan attempts to reunite her again-split film parents by getting them hooked on coke & K? Dennis Quaid and a Natasha Richardson hologram star.

Why, R37, because I don't go around hating an entire industry and because I believe this will be over one day? Of course, it's going to affect everything, but the entire industry is not going away. Jesus, what a bunch of Marys, including R35: "I think big stars will disappear."

Oh, brother.

R39 I hope in the midst of bread lines and emerging socialism the one thing we agree on is the Kardashians can get fucked.

I’m a bit confused, aren’t most entertainment venues just on ice? Movie theaters are the only area that I can see really falling apart because they are sadly on a decline. But people will still go to broadway shows or make movies and TV. The demand to get out and live is there, there is just this invisible threat holding people back.

When it’s safe to return to work people will slowly revert back to our normal habits. If there is no cure than i don’t know how most of society will function under permanent social distancing.

The Kardashians should pay every person who ever watched their show and bought their shit $100,000.

R41 um listen Bradley Cooper or Mr. Cohen or an Agent, whoever you are... you obviously have a vested interest in this.

Do you take Uber? Are you aware of the yellow cabbie suicides?

Do you shop on Amazon? Are you aware of how many families have gone broke because of their predatory practices?

Fuck off, psycho! Don’t act like 20 people on an anonymous gay gossip site thread is going to change the trajectory of an entire industry, while you actively contribute to the downfall and essentially corporate enslavement of others in your own life. Don’t worry I’m sure we’ll all in mass gleefully consume the sludge that Hollywood dishes out after this crisis is over.

I have a friend on a hit show as a recurring actor. The show is, of course, not canceled permanently. He doesn't know when it will start up again. It was supposed to be around Memorial Day. It will be a lot longer than that.

Oh, dear, someone is unhinged, ranting about "Hollywood." Looking at you, R45. Do.fuck yourself.

A gay forum mainly dedicated to salacious, behind-the-scenes gossip about Hollywood celebrities -- what an ironically bizarre place for someone to rant against Hollywood and the industry...

So G will never win an Oscar?

Sad.

[quote] Much like after 9/11, I expect entertainment will become more depressing and soulless. TV and Movies will become more extreme with the ugly, poverty-ridden, identity politics, non-escapism, sarcastic, Juno-esque bullshit we’ve had to endure since the early 2000s. Movies used to be an escape, no more.

Actually, I think it might be the opposite. After living through a distopian nightmare, I think the audience is going to demand escapism, like during the Great Depression.

Folks are going to realize there is enough old films already made that could be watched without having to see anything new. But still, entertainment will come back at some point. People love live theater, and there was a point in English history where theater was banned for 18 years. When it came back, women were allowed on stage for the first time, comedies were very randy, and it's called the Restoration period.

Just like how everyone freaked out that movies were going to make theatre obsolete, this is only a temporary thing. There will always be stage shows and movie theaters. If anything, this might be a good time to put "mainstream" and indie filmmakers on a similar playing field like back in the 70's and 80's where indie films could make almost as much as a big studio film. All the interesting projects tend to be indie these days, but they're stifled by big studio movies stealing their thunder.

As others have said, this is great time for writers to create, create, create.

[quote] Actually, I think it might be the opposite. After living through a distopian nightmare, I think the audience is going to demand escapism, like during the Great Depression.

I agree with R50. Just based off my own entertainment choices of late, I'm already looking for films with amazing cinematography, beautiful landscapes, and travel/adventure themes.

R53 I think it will especially kill off the virus causes a zombie apocalypse genre such as The Walking Dead. It might last a few more seasons with dwindling ratings, but I don't see a new one arising. Who is going to want to watch something like that after living through what we are living through?

More B-list male hottie Fappenings!

R54, one can hope. I'm over zombies and 'end of the world' films.

I’m in the industry, and everything has been changing anyway, this just accelerates it. Consumers want to see what they want, where they want, when they want. Exhibitors will probably disappear, but that was going to happen anyway.

I wouldn’t include Broadway in this thread, this is a separate industry that struggles to be relevant. It’s like looking at dinner theaters to judge the health of the larger entertainment industry.

Why don't you just chop everyone's dick and balls off, r8?

Oh, Broadway definitely is relevant in this thread. Pretty much all auditions for all kind of theater is halted right now in addition to film and tv in NYC which does a lot of casting for theaters throughout the US. Amazing that with some many actors in LA, they don't do very much theater there anyway.

I think that we will have exhausted all the back catalogues of everything to the point that people will be hungry for new content, so Hollywood will be in overdrive.

Actually, Broadway isn’t. Any kind of live theater is seen by a very, very small audience. As far as TV and pictures, NYC studios produce a fraction of what LA studios produce.

Fuck r13.

I'm so sick of the right-wing, self-righteous, Republican trash who inundate Datalounge with their sanctimonious bullshit, then go right back to watching milquetoast TV that they have no problems with.

You're a hypocrite. When you're not desperately addicted to FULLER HOUSE and feeding your children FROZEN IV, you occupy your remaining life with trashing the shows you hate and tabloid gossip about them, even though your overlords the Murdochs are producing them.

You NEED "the Hollywood cess pit." Your life would have nothing to bitch and gossip about, all day on Datalounge, without them. You'd be empty.

I think Broadway will return, but for awhile they might have to cut capacity, along with concerts and sporting events. People will want to attend such things after being stuck in their homes for weeks/months. But, people won't want to be too close to others so maybe a seat or two will be placed between every patron( like X--X--X--X instead of XXXXXXXXXX).

R53 - Have you watched much of Werner Herzog’s filmography? If not, you may appreciate his work.

Gloom. Doom. Gloom. Doom.

There will always be a need for content. The industry will pick right up where it started. People are watching television more than ever and the finales for many of the running shows have yet to be filmed so production will crank up like crazy when we are able to go back to work again.

Exactly, R62. Assholes on this thread railing about Hollywood are just a bunch of bitter losers.

The hit shows will definitely go back into production, r31.

Shows like THE SOPRANOS, STRANGER THINGS, HARRY POTTER and GAME OF THRONES sometimes waited 3 years or more between installments in GOOD times because of production or market restraints. And viewers returned to them because they were good and popular.

So that kind of show will survive and audiences will wait for them.

But you're right about the mediocre or untested shows. If a show was coasting on low ratings, underperforming or still speculative, more of them will get cancelled. Not worth waiting for. The studios will just start from scratch with new shows when the Corona situation is clearer, I think.

But will Finn Wolfhard still look 16 five years from now?

He's getting bigger and uglier by the minute.

Yes obviously the success stories are fine r67, but there are a lot of people's projects out there that were greenlight for them, that now aren't going to end up happening.

And I should add a big headache is going to be scheduling! This has completely fucked up the work that goes into getting schedules lined up for a project.

I wonder how many shows will incorporate thus into their storylines. I don’t care to relive this next season.

R64, I have not seen much of his work, but I'll check his stuff out. Thanks for the recommendation.

I'm definitely not in the mood for dark, dreary, fatalistic fare like "Joker," that's for sure. Goodbye to all of that.

Definitely going to need new headshots after all of this eating and napping

"Big stars" will only disappear if the human sex drive disappears. And that's never going to happen, cunts.

If you hate sex so much and you've managed to substitute Bible and Koran-thumping for your vibrator, then good for you.

But you will never be like the vast majority of humans.

Show business has a message for r45.

Until there is a vaccine, movie theaters and Broadway might as well stay closed. Hollywood won't die, it will adapt because the demand for entertainment will increase as people seek refuge from reality, people will just watch from home. The product will change, though, intimate movies about people will replace big budget special effects-laden Marvel movies. Star salaries will come back to earth.

Until there is a vaccine, movie theaters and Broadway might as well stay closed. Hollywood won't die, it will adapt because the demand for entertainment will increase as people seek refuge from reality, people will just watch from home. The product will change, though, intimate movies about people will replace big budget special effects-laden Marvel movies. Star salaries will come back to earth.

And guess who was behind the 18-year ban on theater before the Restoration, r51?

PURITANS, just like r13 and r45.

I'm so sick of people with Taliban values bitching about harmless Super Bowl halftime shows and "all Hollywood," which produces content for every taste.

Cromwell and his cunts also banned Christmas.

Thank you, R78. I couldn't agree more. I'm glad this thread hasn't been completely hijacked by cunts like R13 and R45. Wishing death on people? WTF? Taliban, indeed.

At least people finally shut the fuck up about Jennifer Lopez at the Superbowl.

Oh you will, R71.

You wanna know who isn't suffering through this pandemic? The Kardashian-Jenners, that's who. They must have about $2 billion dollars between all of them. They'll be fine even if they never collect another check in life ever again.

That's gotta be nice.

I wouldn't bother too much worrying about what all of the survivalist naysayers are saying. They're also predicting that this will be the end of travel, sports, entertainment, anything joyous, etc. I think if they had things their way, they'd prefer that we all go back to huddling around a primitive campfire, eating tins of beans.

This is definitely going to effect award season 2021. The golden globes, the Oscars etc.

Did anyone think of that?

R2 = Paranoid to the max.

Film and television production will resume in June, if not sooner.

R29 I think this “influencer” got his last post about Toby Keith from here.

Alec Baldwin was on the Howard Stern Show last week saying that he's on the board of the New York Philharmonic and there would be lots of arts organizations in New York that will close and "are never coming back."

He said that he can't help everybody.

R45

I wonder if this will finally be the end of audiences at sitcom tapings, which is outdated and irrelevant. Most shows are 80% filled with paid audience members and paid laughers who are recorded the day before during rehearsals. What you hear during the actual show is a mix of various audiences.

Friends, Big Bang Theory, Ellen and Conan are a few shows that would fill up with actual fans.

[quote]R20 I hope it collapses and we get to see celebrities whoring themselves out on Instagram.

Maybe instead of just happy birthday wishes or whatever, for $40 they’ll film private 30 second videos of themselves riding dildos, or German Shepherds, or whatever.

This might be a lucrative market for Lindsay Lohan, Deidre Hall, Timothée, etc.

I bet that this virus will make stars even bigger. The disease ridden public won’t be allowed to even look at them, making them even more like gods. People are already saying that early COVID-19 tests were like a blue check mark.

R91 Right, because having access to tests and better healthcare than the general populace goes over so well when other people are suffering. The "stars" will only get older and less relevant as the pandemic persists, and no one saw them as gods to begin with, except maybe you.

Zzzzzzzzz...

I’m not a teen and nowadays even I only pay attention to YouTube personalities who talk about niche-subjects that interest me. Those people may not be world-famous, but they’re famous to me and a handful of others. I couldn’t care less about the ‘stars’, their press junkets and tedious posturing.

It's disheartening to read all these glib, vicious remarks. The real quiet tragedy is like what happened with AIDS. Think of all the genuine art that will never be made. Artists snuffed out. Works incomplete. Small miracles that will never see the light of day. Trash the garbage shows all you want. I weep for the beautiful, truly great pieces that now will never be.

Some people keep mentioning Hollywood's archives, older movies, indie movies....I'm sure you realize there's basically no money to be made off of the studio archives. And ONE Fast and Furious makes about as much as 1,000 indie movies. Maybe more. (Or at least it did)

Not sure how many numbers they're going to release but it seems people dont like the idea of spending $19.99 at home for a new movie....preferred cost is about $5-8 according to a poll.

They keep mentioning them because classic Hollywood pictures are what’s relevant to most of Datalounge. They sit on chintz sofas with a shih tzu in their laps laughing at something witty said in the 30’s.

[quote]Those people may not be world-famous, but they’re famous to me and a handful of others. I couldn’t care less about the ‘stars’, their press junkets and tedious posturing.

my frustration with this thread is idiots like this who equate "entertainment industry" with "stars" - behind every star now are thousands, no, tens of thousands of unemployed people in the industry - that someone doesn't see this is idiotic and frustrating

I expect that Hollywood will churn out a lot of super action, fantastic type stuff after this, because people will want to be entertained, and not reminded about reality. Not Busby Berkeley level, but eye candy nonetheless.

How profound R99. You mean like they've been doing for the last FIFTEEN YEARS?

Less Oscar bait stuff, fewer independent films.

[quote] Maybe instead of just happy birthday wishes or whatever, for $40 they’ll film private 30 second videos of themselves riding dildos, or German Shepherds, or whatever.

Can't wait for the inevitable Olivia DeHavilland-Betty White scissoring video drops.

Sorry ... that link didn't belong there.

[quote] Actually, Broadway isn’t. Any kind of live theater is seen by a very, very small audience. As far as TV and pictures, NYC studios produce a fraction of what LA studios produce.

Actually, it is. Broadway brings in a half a billion in tax revenue. It brings in more money than all NY sports teams combined.

and that's only there

I hope the industry gets burned to the ground.

Middle America will burn down the Oscars If they go on about woke shit again after all these deaths.

Celebrity culture is a huge problem in America. I look forward to the virus bankrupting the industry and 'stars' losing their obscene fortunes.

Fuck off, R106, you nihilist cunt.

R107, Middle America has no business judging Hollywood for the unmitigated disaster of Trump's ascendancy, which it helped to make happen and which has caused and will cause thousands more deaths. That's on Middle America, not Hollywood. So take your self-righteousness and shove it up your ass.

And naively stupid R108, that won't happen, just like it won't happen to the really obscene fortunes of people like the Koch brothers, Bezos, etc.

All these fucking rich celebs have been applying for the SBA Payroll Protection Loans. You can count on that. Can't wait for that to hit he news! Mom and pop business goes under cause Beyonce sucked at the teat of the US Gov't. The funds are limited and it's first come first serve.

R109 "fuck off, you nihilist cunt" is a great T-shirt idea.

R110, you mean like Bezos, who doesn't pay a runny in taxes? Do you mean the Kochs and their write-off of their private jets? Do you mean Trump, who's getting assistance from the federal government for bailout for his hotels?

They're a lot worse than Beyonce, and if you weren't a fucking hypocrite right-winger, you admit it.

*who doesn't pay a penny

US Box Office for the last week in March $5,000.

US Box Office for the same period in 2019: $200,000,000

Going to a theater to see a movie is SOOOO 20th century...

Yes, much better to watch a movie on a home TV screen--how movies have always meant to be watched.

How many times do we need to mention this? Exhibitors don’t matter anymore. People want to watch what they want, where they want, when they want. Pre-COVID, theaters were over, other platforms are now how people view content.

The entertainment industry is ready to survive this. Everyone was already demanding social distancing as a symptom of narcissism and histrionic personality disorder.

It maybe the film distribution industry will go down, but not content.

[quote]Celebrity culture is a huge problem in America. I look forward to the virus bankrupting the industry and 'stars' losing their obscene fortunes.

HOLY FUCK. entertainment industry has very little to do with "stars" asshol,. but millions of others who do all the rest. HOLY FUCK, this is a frustrating thread to read.

and grammar, gays, grammar. (looking at you, r118)

Who cares?

Hollywood is a powerful machine. It ain't goin nowhere.

if you think this is useless try sitting at home during quarantine withOUT the entertainment industry. without music, books, video games, movies? holy, fucking, shit, I just want to strangle posters like R120

I just saw a country music show on CBS were all the performers sang live from their living rooms. It sucked huge donkey balls.

I hope spectacular shows with jaw dropping sets, beautiful outfits and special effects come back because this " live from my living room " shit is too depressing.

(R120) You ever heard of a book? Don't worry the entertainment industry will survive. They spent too much money on those big blockbuster movies and they will make sure you see them.

I went to the cinema the day before they closed the theaters and saw "Seberg". It was better than I had heard. But I'm afraid it lost a lot of potential money because of the pandemic.

What will become of film festivals? If films stop getting theatrical screening altogether, what will become of Sundance, the New York FF, SXSW, and countless others? This will especially hurt the smaller art films, indies, and documentaries that need distribution and some marketing clout behind them. It's also a chance for these filmmakers to schmooze and booze with other industry folks. Will the festivals be back?

Serious, getting funding for ANY public event, music, film, Poetry fucking reading, will become nigh impossible now

A family member is a reality TV producer who was unemployed before Covid. Still trying to develop and pitch projects. Also trying to scrape together a small accessory business with a friend who has a few boutiques.

My theory about retails is that there will be a big rebound and women (and other people) will be DYING to shop again as soon as it’s possible.

As far as entertainment, I think people won’t want to see any of this reality garbage anymore.

The #guillotine2020 hashtag is jumping. As grocery aisles turn bare, some have suggested that perhaps they ought to eat the rich.

they have been saying this for over a year.

[quote]As far as entertainment, I think people won’t want to see any of this reality garbage anymore.

let's hope. sorry for your friend, but reality TV is garbage

Boool fucking hoo. Maybe you idiots can get a real job like landscaping or filing papers.

Waiters that are "actors" are the worst in customer service because they have this attitude like "I'm only at this job temporarily until I get that final callback."

Nothing is going to change. The very instant the crisis is declared ended, everyone will return to what they were doing as though nothing happened, including worshiping shitty celebs and watching the garbage they are paid vast sums to create.

[quote] The very instant the crisis is declared ended, everyone will return to what they were doing as though nothing happened

no, they won't. unemployment is already five times what it was "before" . people who fund non-profits aren't going to be giving as much afterwards. BIGWiG funders are likewise going to be funding things for themselves, not for entertainment. why "worshipping shitty celebrities" has somehow lodged in your guys' peabrains as the entertainment industry is very unfortunate.

[quote]Maybe you idiots can get a real job like landscaping or filing papers.

fuck for, cunt. if you're unemployed, which is mainly service and entertainment now, but also small businesses of all sorts, you're unemployed, and fuck off cunt about "real job" - what the fuck are you doing when you're not pushing papers, you're watching entertainment, or listening to music, hope you die, you idiot cunt.

Good article at R129.

The smartest performers are the ones who understand the appeal of mystery: they disappeared from social media and the public eye during this crisis, and only re-appear when new work calls for it. The actors striving for "realness," relatability, and relevance are idiots: not only are those things impossible, they're undesirable. I don't want movie/TV stars to live in my real world. I want them to be an escape from my real world.

sorry, still very very sorry, "Celebrity" and entertainment are being confused here

Realistically I think my 30+ year career in theater is over. It will take years to bounce back. And I don't know how to do anything else.

Hopefully your hole will bounce back while in quarantine and you can present again?

[quote]As grocery aisles turn bare, some have suggested that perhaps they ought to eat the rich.

Let's start with the vegan ones; they're the closest we can get to "grass-fed."

The fact that Lindsay Lohan's new "music video" is getting love makes me think things will bounce back

[quote]Celebrities are going to lose millions. Maybe LA real estate will collapse.

Millions of poor people are going to lose their homes and many middle class people are already financially devastated. Anyone who has millions to lose in the first place will come out of this fine.

No affect on my career or concerts. #Blessed

I don't see how a world can exist without the entertainment industry. It's always been there in some form or another and we need it. Maybe stars won't get astronomical pay rates now and maybe studios will stop making movies no one wants to see. One can hope.

none of this is pertinent.

thousands of writers, designers, costumers, directors, artists - commercial and fine art - both are employed in the "entertainment industry" , dancers, choreographers and musicians who are unemployed right now, most of my friends have been waiting days on the phone to file for unemployment benefits - these people are what affect the economy and what you enjoy at home. that every fucking comment is about some "star" is ludicrous - ALL at once an industry closed up - possibly forever, and if not forever it won't at all return in the same form.

R140, you can take those bony vegans, I'll take the human equivalent of Kobe beef- the beer swilling tail gater.

My cousin is a makeup artist and he is really suffering right now. He was working on Lucifer and the lead actress got a cold so they shut the whole thing down. He's in the union but they don't get the good benefits that actors do. Actors are such a small part of the film. It's the crew that does everything.

Exactly my point. People see “the star” but there are thousands of others who are working too

Most actors/crew members are not as financially secure as you'd think. I worked on an indie movie with a fairly well respected actress who was big in the 80s and 90s and was "slumming it" because she liked the script/her role. She was great in the movie and a doll to work with, but I asked the director (we're friends, so we talk about everything) how much she was getting paid and, for her 5 days on that film, she was getting paid $9,000. Think about that. For most actors, just doing one or two gigs like that a year is considered great. That's not a lot of money for a full year.

Trust me, there's nothing rich and "elitist" about the majority of people in this business. Only the really lucky ones have the big mansions, 5 cars, and multi-million dollar movie deals.

[quote]R132 Waiters that are "actors" are the worst in customer service because they have this attitude like "I'm only at this job temporarily until I get that final callback."

But, they tend to be - for the most part - attractive and articulate, with clear diction. At least more so than your ordinary person.

R149 And that $9,000 is before taxes and paying her manager and agent.

People will still crave entertainment, they'll just watch from home until there is a vaccine.

People will still crave entertainment, they'll just watch from home until there is a vaccine.

r147, your cousin knows a very good friend of mine- she's the Department Head makeup of Lucifer. I dayplay there occasionally in the same department, so I may know him too. They had 5 days left in their season.

Remember my cousin telling me he worked with Bill Moseley. He was telling him he was never paid for House of a 1000 corpses. He said he could probably sue but it sounded like he wasn't going to do anything. Lionsgate is notorious for that. I could care less about these celebrities. They can drink themselves in their mansions to death for all I care. It's the working actors and crew that I feel very sorry for. But so many people are out of work right now.

(R154) I worry about him, he's worked so hard to get where he's at. Like many of you. He just wants to get back to work.

Onlyfans is the future

r155, that's not Lionsgate, that was Rob Zombie- he was known for doing that early in his film career. And if your cousin is B, he's a very talented guy- I worked with him on Insidious 3.

Anythng that could bring the Kardashians to their knees is good by me.

Most shows go into hiatus in April and May, and the crew members make other arrangements or plan to be off work at this time of year anyway.

what about everything else? broadway? music industry? everything?

[quote]what about everything else? broadway? music industry? everything?

Who cares?

My brother is a photographer who does key art and marketing for some very popular shows on FX and AMC. He's actually on hold tentatively for a big job in June. Many of the shows that were in production already will resume and get released.

I mean, people are still going to want their shows and movies. The whole industry isnt going to just disappear.

R160 posting from 1994. Show debut year round now with streaming.

"Show debut year round now with streaming."

Is that a sentence? In fact, R164, a show my friend is on is currently on hiatus, and has been since January. It was supposed to resume shooting in NYC around Memorial Day, but he's in a holding pattern.

^^^Meant to sign off with NOT R160^^^

R164 shows premiering year-round have nothing to do when they were filmed dumbass

No shit, cunt R167. But shows DO take hiatuses, that's the point, no matter, apart from streaming. Now fuck off.

R168 wait, what's the point?

They can always do direct to video or cable for their product to be purchased. The point is people have to come together to make the product. If they are expecting the coronavirus to die down for awhile and come back in the fall that is not enough time for them to make movies or a TV series.

Of course film festivals will be back, r126.

They were never selling just movie screenings. They sell PREMIERE movie screenings. Their value is when they get big movies or household names appearing in indie films that they don't let anyone else see first — regardless of whether it's on a silver screens or iPhone.

Filmmakers will always want an exclusive, premiere window to debut their films with style, the media will always want the "scoop" of watching, reviewing and handicapping things first and there will always be movie fans willing to host film festivals for them.

It's all about the premiere, NOT the format.

I hope comic book movies disappear forever

I was never into the slasher movies, but I don't wishthem to disappear. Other people enjoy them and it is not like I am forced to watch them.

I’m wondering what will happen to live concerts. And bands that rely on touring to pay the bills.

I was going to a concert this month for an international act (US), I’m in Australia and it was postponed with no date announced for ages until recently an email arrived to say it will be in November. This is a big stadium gig. I wondered if event organisers know more than we know or if they’re just taking a gamble that all this will be effectively over by mid-November- all international travel back up and running and people free to congregate in big seething crowds together.

The gym and concerts are my only two hobbies. I’m depressed.

[quote]Does Vancouver have shelter in place? If I don't get my fix of Fall Harvest and Christmas movies from Hallmark this year, I will be...

I wouldn't worry too much about the Hallmark Christmas movies. The network probably has a stockpile of scripts at this point. Most of the Christmas movies usually start filming in July and most of the movie shoots are like 14 days. If shutdowns are lifted by July, everything will likely be ok since they reuse the same props and stuff. They'll just production crew quickly sterilize the gazebos, fake snow, and the production houses with clorox spray.

No genre will ever go away, r173.

Even Westerns and musicals get inspired filmmakers who love them to make them new and popular as a novelty.

The slasher never dies, ‚ just like its killers. Right now, all the big horror films for 2020 are getting pushed to October for Halloween and it's going to be a bloodbath — not just on the screen!

October season will now have CANDYMAN, INSIDIOUS, SPIRAL, HALLOWEEN KILLS and others all hacking and slashing at the same audience.

R149 I have a friend whose father also worked in TV and movie productions for a long time and he said that father always said that many actors weren't as rich as people thought they were.

[quote]I hope comic book movies disappear forever

I think some of the comic book movies that are in pre-production/development status will be abandoned, but they won't completely disappear forever.

A crew guy told me that when his NY series starts its season in July all 10 episodes will be shot together, not separately, like a film. All the scenes for first few months will be on soundstages with only the principal actors and any scenes with background actors will be done last (October), following an evaluation. Scenes will probably be rewritten to have as few bg as possible.

more to it than that

Most actors, including some very famous ones, really are not all that rich. Shit you see online about X actor being paid X millions -- they actually take home a small fraction of that.

Hollywood is an illusion, from top to bottom.

For the cunt and dumbass at R167, the point I was trying to make was that non-network shows don't adhere to the September-May airing/July-March shooting schedules. Netflix, Hulu, Amazon etc original programming debut year round. At this time last year, Insatiable and Ozark were just starting to film their new seasons for Netflix. And even the networks now have summer programming, which means they would start filming now. So for R160 to say most shows take a hiatus now simply isn't true. So fuck right off.

r176, not Insidious, but Conjuring 3, which I don't think is going to make that deadline, as we had 3 weeks of re-shoots with major changes to do, and was supposed to be happening right now.

there is more to entertainment than when the shows are aired

Let us hope and pray that no real celebrities are impacted!

Please let Brooke and her little brood be okay!

R182 that time of the month?

R179 Hopefully the unquarantined 140 person crew working more than twelve hours per day on an enclosed set in close proximity of each other will receive a daily temperature check and "evaluation" with all the dayplayers coming and going pawing at the craft services tables and the buffet style meals served all day long.

Those "dayplayers"--the riffraff "pawing" at the craft service table "all day long," eh, R188?

I think craft services will all have pre-packaged stuff from now on. I have no idea how catering will be now.

I hope the entire "The Conjuring" universe is wiped away by the pandemic!

Bye bye, Annabelle! No more NUN! La Llorona, begone!

Talk about dumbing down the world with this inane series.

Within a few months, everything will return to normal and most of you will forget the virus even happened unless actively reminded. Stop navelgazing and do something productive.

Don't let facts hit you in the ass on the way out R192. Experts has said it will take a long time to return to normal.

No, R187, just calling a cunt a cunt.

Hey r191, that Universe pays my bills.

I don't think movie theaters will all go under, but I think the current model will change a bit. I would imagine any theater that doesn't already use assigned seating, will do so now. I think there will be a required distance between each occupied seat (or party) and the next, therefore the idea of an entirely sold out theater may be a thing of the past. I would think fewer seats would be sold in general and the cost of tickets will go up, but I would hope so too would the experience. Perhaps less commercials, more emphasis on cleanliness throughout (and less showings a day to ensure time for cleaning between each film), concession food being handled differently or entirely contactless or solely from a vending machine, etc.

There will be less scripted series since the crews required are so large. A reality series just needs to send a few camera operators around town and shoot footage.

R194 regardless of it being your favorite word, no one is offended by the word cunt, little bitch.

There are a lot of people that are offended by the word "cunt" R198.

R199 name one

Please stop with your ignorance R200.

R201 No one on Datalounge without a uterus is offended. Please stop being a fucking loser.

I think in the aftermath productions will do more than take temperatures. I think they’ll demand serology reports which prove each person has built up antibodies and has “immunity.” I’m sure casting will LOVE having to get this info from agents. “Just fax it over, hon!”

Unless someone has been vaccinated by a vaccine which doesn't exist, any health screening prior to the current day is irrelevant.

You're a fucking idiot R202.

it will all end

R206, pretending she's Nostradamus instead of the silly ka-ween that she is.

far from silly queen, i work in the industry

So do I, silly queen.

then you'd know. hope against hope, but the funding for most non-profit performing arts is disappearing in thin air

R210, that is in no way, shape, or form the same thing as saying the entire "entertainment industry" will end. First, you're talking about non-profit, which is not the same thing. Second, funding for non-profits, while drastically affected, will not go away forever. These doomsday scenarios are absurd. It's going to take years to recover, but that won't be forever.

It's like anything regenerating after a down period. It will come back - there's a market for it, but it will be limited by the money that companies producing the content have and how much the public has and is willing to pay for that content. There won't be as much of everything - studios, theater companies, actual theaters, people employed in the industry, etc.

So, movies and TV shows still get produced, theaters somewhere have live theater, some musicians still do concert tours - but it's all scaled back overall. It will grow but only if we have basically unimpeded economic improvement for a substantial period after this is over, and, of course, if there's not another pandemic.

The industry won't die, but it won't "live" in the same manner as previously.

Someone upthread mentioned things like dance and classical music that might die due to the demographics of the audience. That might be largely true - but even those things will still exist in some form. Humans are artistic by nature. Even if there's no more well-funded professional dance companies, there will be independent troupes in various cities who will piece it together on a shoe-string budget and perform. Maybe everyone involved has day jobs, maybe it's not The Bolshoi or ABT or Alvin Ailey - but someone somewhere will want to publicly dance and someone will want to watch it.

Saying you work "in the industry" is cringeworthy

Unless you do.

R214 No, still cringeworthy.

Are you in the industry, R213/r215?

Or should I say--were you?

A good percentage of people on here work in some facet of entertainment and it's nothing to boast about.

Or be ashamed about. Saying you work in the industry isn't boasting, either.

YES!!!! SO ASHAMED!!!!

Saying you work in the industry isn't boasting, either.

Just annoying and outdated

R221 not worth repeating

I'm still holding out for a 2021 repeat of the Roaring Twenties .

The 1918 Spanish Flu didn't last forever and neither will Covid19.

The entertainment industry in all aspects will come roaring back ( hopefully ).

Why are you on Datalounge, r106?

If you hate Hollywood and celebrities so much, why the fuck do you come here to obsess over them?

What is your business coming here? Seriously.

r107 = r106's sock puppet.

Did you notice the anti-Hollywood propaganda is coming in doubles?

NICE TRY, BORIS.

Paging r218!

Your grease fire is on Line One.

I wish the Marvel movies would go away forever.

Talk about dumbing down society.

Agree about Marvel. They have ruined the industry in my opinion. Hopefully Miss ‘Rona removes them for a while.

Yes, it was worth repeating, R223.

The Marvel films are the cinematic equivalent of cruise ships. I hope both are dunzo forever.

why this is the focus of "the entertainment industry" is beyond my understanding

Unfortunately, isn't Marvel relatively better- positioned to make a comeback?

R233 I would say so. They are in better financial situation than DC. I do think a couple of Marvel projects will be dropped.

So what would you like for us to say, r213? We work in cinema/theatre/television?

R230 not unless you lack reading comprehension and have attention deficit

R235 just say less in general

Or, R236, to add stress to what still seems to fly over the heads of some.

Why are you even in this thread if you don't want to hear about it? People talk about their jobs...what do you do?

one of the most pointless and irritating threads I've read on the DL

R238 is this a sentence?

R239 no one wants to hear about your job

Yes, R241, it is.

R242, has R239 been going on about their job?

R243 this only makes sense to you

Sorry to interrupt your vapid bitch-fight, but I'm wondering about comedies. WTF will they do for story lines? Pretend this never happened? Make jokes about their dead relatives? Quarantine puns?

'Modern Family' and 'Schitt's Creek' both ended in lucky good time.

I don't remember I Love Lucy doing major chunks about the Spanish Flu or WWII, but I'm sure some sitcoms will feel the need to do a Corona episode. There's comedy potential there even just the idea of two people who hate each other being stuck in the same house for weeks on end could be potentially funny.

R246 Yeah, they could get so tired of each other that they decide to divide the house in half with masking tape on the floor. ‘You stay on YOUR half!

The Brady Brides already did that.

Not going to happen R246. Domestic violence is up and these women have nowhere to go. There is nothing funny about this .

R245, NY Mag asked a lot of show runners how they’d write an episode about the virus, and compiled their responses. Tina Fey had the best one, of course.

[quote]r213 Saying you work "in the industry" is cringeworthy

Are they supposed to pretend to be plumbers?

R250 thanks for linking. I liked 24, Seinfeld and Everybody Loves Raymond.

R251 plumbing is an industrial job

R253 wins the "Deliberately Missing The Point" Award on this thread.

R254 wins the "Last Word Queen" Award on this thread

I guess that would be you, R255.

R256 I guess that would be you now

I don't mind getting the last word. And you're still deliberately missing the point.

Plumbers have job skills and can work in any city in the world.

R258 your point being that you are an insufferable homo

Yeah, gash R260? I still get the last word. LMFAO!

R281 LMFAO!

R261 a grown ass man using middle school acronyms LOL!!!!

ROTFL @ R263's LOL!!!

R264 now who's missing the point

R264 LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Girls, GIRLS, You're BOTH cunts! Now carry on. And if you don't want to hear about the entertainment industry, fuck off this thread, r213.

R272 increase your testosterone levels

typical DL imbeciles

R274 at least you found your tribe

Enough with the fighting! Let's unite and rejoice that Deb Messing will be unemployed for a while.

Narcissistic Non-Essentials

This thread is full of either washed-up ex-industry folk or (more, I suspect) just bitter cunts who are nothing are envious that other people work in a creative industry--like R277.

*who are nothing but envious

R278 R279

Prove me wrong, R280.

I called it:

Well of course, R282. I also knew this was a temporary holding pattern, though it will go on for a while. Only fools on this thread, licking their lips, said "This is the end of the entertainment business!" Jerkoffs.

Furlough news

[quote]Let's unite and rejoice that Deb Messing will be unemployed for a while.

You mean she doesn't have an OnlyFans channel?

We need the Netflix Boys in the Band film NOW.

In a depression/recession what expenses do you cut out first? Entertainment of course, because it's frivolous. You need shelter, you need food, you need clothing. You don't need to binge watch some series on Netflix if it means not eating for the next 2 days.

Typical arrogant Los Angeles mentality, oblivious so what's going on. I have two months rent I owe, but I have something in the pipeline. Been there done that.

There is such an oversaturation of content that no one really cares if nothing new is produced for a year.

Reality will be the big winner.

r297 That's what you think #1:

r287 *didn't have my glasses on* That's what you think #2:

There wasn't reality TV, youtube or the internet then.

"In a depression/recession what expenses do you cut out first? Entertainment of course, because it's frivolous."

Really, R287? I guess that doesn't quite explain the huge boom in Hollywood, known as the Golden Age, which took place during the Depression, and featured everything from rich socialite comedies to gritty noir movies, to all the other movies that were made. People flocked to the movies then. So much for entertainment being frivolous. And with streaming services, it's barely an expense now.

So, grumpy, go back to bed.

R292.

I have cancelled all my subscriptions and now stick to renting a movie every now and then, studying, reading books, etc. For quite some time, I noticed I no longer enjoyed watching any content from the streaming services. It felt like a chore to alleviate the FOMO (“I have to watch this show, because apparently it’s hot shit, but I don’t really want to.)

Entertainment and celebrity culture has become too dominant and overwhelming. There are too many people living their lives through celebrities, who, for the most part, aren’t even that interesting or talented.

^ “have become..”

so "entertainment" for the avenger DL schlub is literally ONLY watching streaming films?

R292 everyone on this thread is grumpy.

[quote] so "entertainment" for the avenger DL schlub is literally ONLY watching streaming films?

Straw man argument.

I recently, stupidly watched Murder Mystery (with Adam Sandler and Jennifer Aniston). What a piece of garbage! And it was supposed to be good! So now I'll stick to my own books and movies, thank you.

There was a paid shill hyping up that Shit here at R299 months before it was released.

[QUOTE]So what would you like for us to say, [R213]? We work in cinema/theatre/television?

You should say: "I WORK IN SHOWBIZ, BABY!"

"Entertainment and celebrity culture has become too dominant and overwhelming."

Oh brother, R294. I guess you may as well stop watching movies from the Golden Era, as well, because it was true then as well. I just know I can't watch a Jean Harlow because for the three years she was a movie star, she was dominant and overwhelming.

You're a drip, R294.

*I can't watch a Jean Harlow movie

R296 literally

The business of show chooses you. You do not choose the business of show.

Am I the only one who doesn't get that at R305?

And I'm an Eldergay.

Just say you're NOT ESSENTIAL R235

My brother is a sound engineer for TV shows and ads. Still getting plenty of work (so far)

If the entertainment industry is NOT ESSENTIAL, R307, then neither is ANY OTHER FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS.

Okay how about, "I'm in NON ESSENTIAL SHOWBIZ BABY!!"

Sorry, posts from NON-ESSENTIALS are muted in the DataLounge VIP Suite

The entertainment industry is only non-essential to one who doesn't ever watch TV, you lying cunts.

No one cares about that one time you chose the lucky straw and got to pick up Judith Light's Starbucks.

- Reductions

-Deal Suspensions

-Straight Out Terminations

Apparently television commercial production must be essential because EVERYONE seems to have a new, COVID-related ad out.

Does this mean The Woman in the Window is going to be released globally thru video on demand next week?

R316 It was originally supposed to be released last October, but the test screenings were mostly negative and then the studio decided to move the release date to May. The studio is saying it will be rescheduled for a later date this year.

I've asked this in another thread, but what about team sports? That avenue is going to suffer more than the film industry. All the contact! All the heavy breathing and sweating! All the drunken brawls and tailgaiting!

This article from Sports Illustrated is pretty good on the possible impact on sports leagues. I've read other articles about MLB looking into playing off the games in Arizona and teams and coaching staffs would be quarintined and would only hotel rooms for games. NHL is considering playing games at a site in North Dakota.

AMC close to filing for bankruptcy.

Movie theaters are dead. The end.

Yes, because it's SO MUCH BETTER to see movies on a tv screen, rather than a large movie screen with stereo sound.

r322 at home.

Sorry -- forgot the link.

Big movie chains are probably dead. I can see some independent theaters coming back in due time - some people want to see films collectively and on a big screen. But, that will probably take a couple of years.

Not AMC! They're releasing The Assistant with Julia Garner and I need to watch that! Aw fuck.

I highly doubt movie theaters or plays will be gone for good. It might time them until the fall to rebound, but they'll be back. We depend on them more than we think we do.

R326, I saw it a few weeks ago. Sooooo fucking boring. Nothing happens.

Going to the movie theatre is a throwback custom that will not be coming back anytime soon. Older people and parents bringing all their kids are not going to risk sitting for over an hour in airplane-style seating to see a movie they can watch at home within three months.

The only comic book movie I wanted to see in the past 3 years gets pushed back) delayed

[quote]Older people and parents bringing all their kids are not going to risk sitting for over an hour in airplane-style seating to see a movie they can watch at home within three months.

I think some parents would be willing to risk it so their kids could see some animated movie right away instead of waiting for home video formats.

I’m not willing to die for a super hero movie but knock yourself out

[quote] Anythng that could bring the Kardashians to their knees is good by me.

Like black dick

I have a 180” 4K Dolby Vision Laser projector with a 7.1 Dolby Atmos audio setup in my living room R322. I haven’t been to a movie in a theater in the past decade that had better quality than that, including AMC Dolby theaters that cost twice as much as a normal ticket. It’s especially great to watch smaller releases like Little Women and Emma, and it had absolutely no problem handling the latest Star Wars. The only thing I miss is the popcorn, and I’m even close to getting that right.

I understand everyone doesn’t have this setup, but this is the way that movies are going. AMC is declaring bankruptcy, and so will every other chain in the next two months.

Dweebs sitting around their houses or apartments streaming movies thinking it's the something as sitting in a dark, cavernous movie theatre is not the same but I can see why the more recent generations won't feel the lack because it's convenient and they don't know any better.

^ ok, Boomer.

There are some movies that just play better on a big screen. Nothing like seeing a new horror movie on opening night with a packed house of screaming teenagers on dates. It's not the same on your couch at home.

r330, that was one of my favorite comics too, but I've heard through the grapevine that it was dismal. They did extensive reshoots on it too- they were trying to make it more of a horror movie.

"Going to the movie theatre is a throwback custom that will not be coming back anytime soon."

Oh, brother. Okay, GenZer.

If you "liked 24, Seinfeld and Everybody Loves Raymond," then the entertainment industry is already fucked.

Will vaudeville be coming back?

Movie theaters will thrive as long as the studios keep them the only places where you can watch new movies.

And the social, audio-visual experience is different and attractive.

There are countless never-released films sitting on the shelves. Convert the vacated sports stadiums into drive-in theaters for the duration of trump virus. Problem solved.

As for as the unemployed talent, technicians and service workers - what was your backup plan while dreaming of establishing a career? Time to really get creative.

R337 speaks the truth. Hearing Laquita say "Gurl, don't go up dem stairs!" is part of the moviegoing experience. I don't care if she brought a to-go box of Panda Express with her to stink up the joint.

What about the music industry though? Concerts are where the money is at for singers and musicians now. I can’t see big arena shows or smaller venue or casino shows coming back for awhile.

R344 nobody did it better than Brenda!

R345, I don't think concerts come back until there's a vaccine - so substantially later than when the economy first starts to "open up." Love live music, so hopefully I'll be able to see a show again.

Hollywood has also been in a bubble and it’s gotten ridiculous the last few years with exorbitant pay checks for marginally talented celebs who are worshipped like Gods and many terrible movies that are mainly special effects. It’s time for this industry to be restructured along with everything else. Sadly, it will suffer for a while but hopefully they will come up with creative solutions like every other industry.

That's right, r348.

Nobody wants to watch shows or look at beautiful actors. It's all an industry bubble of FAKE INCOME.

I just don't understand how show business thrives in times of economic downturn, especially because there's SO much more to do at home during a quarantine and your boss Vladimir Putin destroys their copyright protections by making bootlegs of every show available on the internet.

One of these days, all this fake, public demand is going to disappear and destroy show business — the poisonous, unwarranted influence that's survived for 2,600 years.

Show business has been a thriving business A LOT LONGER than Christ!

I agree r347, every concert I was going to see this spring and early summer has been cancelled or rescheduled. I don’t think the reschedule dates will hold either. I’ve read Ticketmaster and stub hub are panicking and people are pissed because they are t offering full refunds.

[quote]"Going to the movie theatre is a throwback custom that will not be coming back anytime soon."

[quote]Oh, brother. Okay, GenZer.

I think it's "OK, Zoomer".

With the announcement that LA Mayor Garcetti plans on keeping gatherings closed well into 2021, you can bet that the performing arts will be near death, and large segments will be totally dead, including movie theaters, by then.

Can't Garcetti rid the virus in LA with his supposedly heavily rumored halitosis?

What I'm wondering is how all these new commercials are being made.

R351, I read that too - Ticketmaster changed their policy for refunds. Used to be able to get full refund if an event was postponed or canceled, now it has to be canceled. I have tickets for a concert in July but the artist hasn't pospostponed or canceled yet. I really wish they would, because knowing it will be a while until we can enjoy live music, I just want my money back.

Things will always come back, and that includes the performing arts. This hand-wringing is RIDICULOUS. Not everything will come back, no. To say this is an end to everything is is much bullshit. It will take years to recover. It will not all die. What a bunch of Marys so many are oaths thread.

*so many are on this thread.

If going to the movie theatre isn't a throwback custom, then what month and year do you think people will buy tickets weeks in advance and sit in sold-out unventilated theatres like they did for juvenile superhero and Star Wars movies?

"You acknowledge if you contract COVID-19 we are not liable. If you don't want to sign, you don't take the job."

-Everyone will be tested before allowed onto a set.

-Examining the role of each crew member to limit the number of people on set to only essential personnel and to also separate them into smaller clusters in different parts of the set when possible to avoid large gatherings.

-Pre-workday health screening expected to add an hour and a half to the arrival time.

-Everything in producing a TV series will need to be rethought because of COVID-19, from actual shooting, makeup/wardrobe and craft services to creative changes in the content. In addition to adjusting scripts to avoid location shoots, large crowds and action scenes, there are questions whether it will be appropriate for shows to reflect the life we had before the pandemic hit. With social distancing expected to be a part of our lives for months and even years, studio executives and creators are wondering whether it would it be jarring to depict characters having a family dinner, for example, which is a staple in each Blue Bloods episode, or go to a crowded restaurant.

-Food doled out in pre-packaged servings, lunch breaks staggered.

(RE:349) Chill out. I love Hollywood and movies and hot actors. Where did you get that from? I agree with you and am sorry if I pissed you off. I just meant that it has become ridiculous as of late with so many bad movies getting pumped out with the same actors, Marvel atrocities, and astronomical paychecks. It will have to adapt like every other industry. Evolution. Of course it will come back and hopefully with a bang. I just hope that more quality movies will be made again with good actors. Example: I miss RDJ as an actor and am tired of the super hero stuff.

MOAR green screen movies!

When I talk about ‘entertainment and celebrity culture’, I’m not talking about art or high-quality entertainment. I’m talking about all the trashy, mediocre & disposable stuff that looks like it was generated by AI in order to insure maximum profit and digestibility, the entertainment equivalent of Fast Food. Something that keeps you entertained for an hour, but has you feeling empty and unsatisfied afterwards.

Time for everyone in the entertainment industry to go get real jobs now like the rest of us.💁🏻‍♂️

It’s a good thing Jennifer Aniston has that Aveeno commercial to fall back on during this time of difficulty.

R364 But there are no waiter or waitress jobs available. What else will they do? Or maybe you’re thinking they’ll be a personal shopper. Wouldn’t that be ironic

What Will It Take To Reopen Broadway?

It sucks because watching tv is literally one of the few things you can do during quarantine, yet because of Covid-19 production of most shows have stopped. This means after the shows that have already been filmed are released, we're fucked. We're forced to watch reruns for months and months, ugh.

"Time for everyone in the entertainment industry to go get real jobs now like the rest of us."

We live in a largely disposable service economy - trampoline parks for kids, craft beer pubs, day spas and on and on.

Most people don't have jobs any "realer" than people in the entertainment industry.

Are there enough resources available to test all cast and crew members for COVID-19 on any given production? Seems highly unlikely, unless you were working with a skeleton crew on a smaller project. Definitely wouldn't be plausible for big budget action movies or any film requiring extensive sets and rigging, really. You need a lot of people putting together a large scale production like that.

R368 Really??? There’s literally an entire century’s worth of movies and television shows, and I’m pretty sure you haven’t seen them all and can find something to watch that you haven’t seen before.🙄

The last film I saw in a movie theater was "Ford Vs Ferrari". I was amazed by its technical perfection and that is something you can only truly appreciate on a big screen and with the theater's sound system. No matter how cool your home setup is, it will never match that

I think the problem, R372, is that there's a lot of people don't care if it's not as good. The theater industry has to get those folks back in the seats. They're not worried about people like you.

[quote]This means after the shows that have already been filmed are released, we're fucked. We're forced to watch reruns for months and months, ugh.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've read today. I wish you'd been around in the '60s when there were three networks, no digital or home video or streaming.

I could live for 50 more years and not see all of the existing movies and television shows I still want to watch.

I enjoyed this article on the impact on the entertainment industry

R329- most movie theaters in NYC are pretty much made for social distancing. Large recliners spaces away from each other at AMC and Regal. It’s not like that anywhere near you?

R368- I cant imagine you’ve seen all of these...

R376 Spaced recliners aren't equivalent to a vaccine. No movie theatre is prepared to seat people ten to fifteen feet away from each other with plastic dividers limiting the amount of tickets sold. Any recycled air will transport the virus throughout the unventilated room.

[quote]Does Vancouver have shelter in place? If I don't get my fix of Fall Harvest and Christmas movies from Hallmark this year, I will be...

I actually wonder if there will be decrease in the amount of movies Hallmark Channel makes this year. They film their movies pretty quickly and if there are new recommendations and requirements about frequently sanitizing/disinfecting sets, props, social distancing requirements etc that could mean that their productions would have to be longer than 2-3 weeks and that incur additional expenses.

I came across some reddit thread and there were posts from people who have worked as crew members on Hallmark productions and also for Lifetime and Disney Channel movies. One poster said that the Hallmark productions he/she worked on were pretty disorganized and there was frequent last minute requests at the production office. Others said that the work days often longer than other non-Hallmark projects they have worked on and that work environment on Hallmark projects is miserable because directors and editors push for quick work. The thread is very long and there were a bunch of posts I didn't read. While I get that the entertainment industry is long hours and intense work environments. It just seems like there is a lot of shadiness with Hallmark's production practices and people are probably quite blind to it because Hallmark's image is wholesome and happy. I wouldn't be surprised if the Canadian government doesn't push new requirements on TV and movie productions just so they can keep productions from going into the US.

They may have some in the can if they filmed in January and February to get the winter look. Unless they don't give a shit and don't hide the fact that they filmed in the summer.

A few artists have cancelled their tours for the year but a lot of the bigger name artists have tentatively rescheduled or not said much of anything.

I really can’t see arena concerts coming back for at least a year or so.

[quote]I actually wonder if there will be decrease in the amount of movies Hallmark Channel makes this year.

Noooooooo!!!

Honestly all they'd have to do for Hallmark movies is change the title. Maybe tweak the color in editing. Who would notice?

They should make everyone black to balance the inequality.