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Celebrities who try to sound more intelligent than they actually are

I listened to Jaime King on Illeana Douglas's movie podcast last week, and it was honestly difficult to listen to at times. You could tell she was straining her vocabulary to try and sound as intellectual and well-read as possible, but it was clear that she's not. Which other famous people do this? There has to be a lot of them.

by Anonymousreply 223May 27, 2020 3:04 PM

Madonna owns this thread.

by Anonymousreply 1March 28, 2020 4:00 AM

Roseanne.

by Anonymousreply 2March 28, 2020 4:01 AM

Mike Tyson

by Anonymousreply 3March 28, 2020 4:16 AM

When Jennifer Garner tried to correct Conan on the proper usage of sneaked versus snuck. He then pulled out a dictionary and corrected her. I loved that moment of embarrassment on her face!

by Anonymousreply 4March 28, 2020 4:27 AM

R4 You could have posted the link! I hadn't seen it before! šŸ˜†

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by Anonymousreply 5March 28, 2020 4:34 AM

R5 Talk about instant karma! Thatā€™s what she gets for trying to put him down.

by Anonymousreply 6March 28, 2020 5:22 AM

Lady Gaga.

by Anonymousreply 7March 28, 2020 5:24 AM

Ashley Judd is notoriously pretentious.

by Anonymousreply 8March 28, 2020 5:24 AM

Beyonce.

by Anonymousreply 9March 28, 2020 5:25 AM

After the first couple of Rocky movies, Stallone tried to reinvent himself as a writer and painter (remember when he was a painter?).

Some People-type rag ran a photo of his ground beef face trying to look pensive as he consulted an oversized Oxford dictionary. It was hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 10March 28, 2020 5:27 AM

Whenever you meet a celebrity think of them as once been a skanky boy like you were, or a crybaby girl like you were. If you like you can think of them as firmer struggling actors unable to meet the rent.

by Anonymousreply 11March 28, 2020 5:28 AM

Iā€™ve always been a fan of the male firm.

by Anonymousreply 12March 28, 2020 5:30 AM

Whoopi Goldberg. She has a strong, emotional speaking style that makes you want to trust her. But then...

by Anonymousreply 13March 28, 2020 5:31 AM

Never correct a Harvard Man on his own show.

by Anonymousreply 14March 28, 2020 5:32 AM

Dotard tRump

by Anonymousreply 15March 28, 2020 5:34 AM

Charlie Rose

by Anonymousreply 16March 28, 2020 5:35 AM

All of them

by Anonymousreply 17March 28, 2020 5:35 AM

Neil deGrasse Tyson

by Anonymousreply 18March 28, 2020 5:44 AM

Rupaul has read every book by Oprah.

by Anonymousreply 19March 28, 2020 5:47 AM

Oprah

by Anonymousreply 20March 28, 2020 5:53 AM

All of them.

by Anonymousreply 21March 28, 2020 5:55 AM

R21, are you also R17?

by Anonymousreply 22March 28, 2020 5:56 AM

Joaquin Phoenix. If that unintelligible Oscar speech didn't prove his limited intellectual capacity, nothing will. And Renee Zellwegger wasn't far behind with her incoherent diatribe.

by Anonymousreply 23March 28, 2020 6:41 AM

Joy Reid

by Anonymousreply 24March 28, 2020 7:30 AM

Michelle Williams.

by Anonymousreply 25March 28, 2020 7:42 AM

Brad Pitt.

by Anonymousreply 26March 28, 2020 9:08 AM

Courtney Love.

by Anonymousreply 27March 28, 2020 11:09 AM

Goop

by Anonymousreply 28March 28, 2020 11:11 AM

Russell Brand

by Anonymousreply 29March 28, 2020 11:49 AM

ScarJo

by Anonymousreply 30March 28, 2020 11:56 AM

Madonna, Trump, Joy Reid, Ezra Klein, Ta-Nehisi Coates. Is RenƩe Zellweger trying to sound intelligent, or just revealing she is very high on drugs? Dax Shepard - though I STILL want to lap his hole and Hoover his splooge.

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by Anonymousreply 31March 28, 2020 12:13 PM

I second Joy Reid. Add most of MSNBC. Jennifer Lopez. Meghan and Harry. S

by Anonymousreply 32March 28, 2020 12:38 PM

Gwyneth Paltrow and Sting. Canā€™t listen to either.

by Anonymousreply 33March 28, 2020 12:41 PM

Bill Cosby

by Anonymousreply 34March 28, 2020 12:46 PM

Rose McGowan

by Anonymousreply 35March 28, 2020 2:26 PM

Sylvester Stallone = dumber than a box of rocks.

by Anonymousreply 36March 28, 2020 4:02 PM

Brad Pitt = dumb as an ashtray. Michelle Williams = dumb as an ashtray Oprah = dumb as an ashtray Julia Roberts = dumb as an ashtray Brie Larson = dumb as an ashtray Armie Hammer = Very low IQ Jennifer Lawrence = zero IQ

by Anonymousreply 37May 4, 2020 11:17 AM

Ben Affleck. Although he stepped away from the intellectual posing as he became more of a drunk. I saw an interview with him years ago and had to turn it off because it was too cringeworthy. I think he even had political aspirations at one point.

Didnā€™t Sylvester Stallone write Rocky when he was a nobody? He canā€™t be stupid.

The Garner clip is worse than I expected. Snuck isnā€™t a word? Good grief! ā€œWait, is snuck a word?ā€ I can see. But being sure of something so wrong and getting preachy about it? Thatā€™s book dumb and street dumb. Is she always insufferable?

by Anonymousreply 38May 4, 2020 11:43 AM

R37 Yeah, no. I get you don't like these people, but they are not as dumb as you would like them to be

by Anonymousreply 39May 4, 2020 11:49 AM

Brad Pitt.

by Anonymousreply 40May 4, 2020 11:52 AM

Darren Criss

by Anonymousreply 41May 4, 2020 11:52 AM

Tammy Crooze

by Anonymousreply 42May 4, 2020 12:01 PM

Mark Ruffalo

by Anonymousreply 43May 4, 2020 12:05 PM

Will Smith.

by Anonymousreply 44May 4, 2020 12:06 PM

All the actors. They try to convince everyone, including themselves, that they are more than, just some how attractive people, who are good at pretending they are someone else.

by Anonymousreply 45May 4, 2020 12:19 PM

[quote]Charlie Rose

He's so dumb he's incapable of hiding it.

by Anonymousreply 46May 4, 2020 12:22 PM

Brad Pitt the architectural aesthete always makes me laugh.

by Anonymousreply 47May 4, 2020 12:23 PM

Robert De Niro. Acting is the only viable career path for him. He's that dumb.

by Anonymousreply 48May 4, 2020 12:31 PM

Oh, Alicia, was it all some marketing scheme to live up to the title?

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by Anonymousreply 49May 4, 2020 12:32 PM

DeNiro may not be the most articulate but he's made a kiling in real estate investments. Maybe it's luck but he owns at least one entire block in Tribeca. Christie Brinkley is truly dumb as a box of rocks and also did well investing in real estate. She is truly an idiot.

by Anonymousreply 50May 4, 2020 12:38 PM

I really don't think Meryl Streep is that intelligent to be honest.

by Anonymousreply 51May 4, 2020 12:40 PM

Britney Spears

by Anonymousreply 52May 4, 2020 12:42 PM

[quote] Yeah, no.

Speaking of, um . . .

by Anonymousreply 53May 4, 2020 12:45 PM

Mika from Morning Joe. She's more suited to a celebrity interview show than a news show. She seems to be riding on her father's reputation.

by Anonymousreply 54May 4, 2020 12:46 PM

Some of the people mentioned in this thread are uneducated not dumb. There is a difference.

by Anonymousreply 55May 4, 2020 12:57 PM

Where does that put George W. Bush, R55?

by Anonymousreply 56May 4, 2020 12:58 PM

Not formally educated, you mean.

by Anonymousreply 57May 4, 2020 12:59 PM

The late Roger Ailes was spot on when he said Biden was a dumber than an ashtray. I don't like Trump but Biden shouldn't be anywhere near the White House.

by Anonymousreply 58May 4, 2020 12:59 PM

[quote]The Garner clip is worse than I expected. Snuck isnā€™t a word? Good grief! ā€œWait, is snuck a word?ā€ I can see. But being sure of something so wrong and getting preachy about it? Thatā€™s book dumb and street dumb. Is she always insufferable?

Yes, though her marital woes have knocked this fraucunt down a peg or two. Back in the day, both she and Ben Affleck were preachy, better-than-you fucks. Glad to see both have been mightily humbled.

by Anonymousreply 59May 4, 2020 1:01 PM

Jessica Chastain. Thread Closed.

by Anonymousreply 60May 4, 2020 1:02 PM

Yes R57, that's what I meant.

R56. GWB and Trump are very similar to me: two rich kids whose pedigree allowed them to attend the best schools and have access to power but both have a total and complete lack of intellectual curiosity. Because they have so-called charisma and savviness, they've been able to succeed, but neither one had any business being president.

by Anonymousreply 61May 4, 2020 1:14 PM

Conan is intimidatingly smart, imo. Perhaps we should give Garner points for thinking she had the brains to take him on even if it was just over the usage of one word.

I am going to go against this thread and name a celebrity who I think is genuinely smart, Reese Witherspoon.

by Anonymousreply 62May 4, 2020 1:22 PM

[quote]Snuck isnā€™t a word? Good grief! ā€œWait, is snuck a word?ā€ I can see. But being sure of something so wrong and getting preachy about it? Thatā€™s book dumb and street dumb. Is she always insufferable?

My third grade teacher informed us snuck wasn't a word, the same way we were taught that ain't wasn't a word. This was way back in the 60s, and that was a commonplace pronouncement. Now a teacher might distinguish between formal usage and informal rather than declare ain't wasn't a word at all. And, FWIW, I'm pretty sure I watched David Letterman tell Terri Garr the same thing. It might have been a dispute about another word she used, but it was something informal and Letterman told her that that (whatever it was) wasn't a word.

by Anonymousreply 63May 4, 2020 1:28 PM

Not exactly an answer to the question, but I want to shoehorn this in somewhere. I was so impressed with Bill Gates during his town hall with Sanjay Gupta the other night, discussing the pandemic. Obviously heā€™s a very intelligent man, we all know this. But heā€™s a very effective communicator, as well. He spoke clearly and simply, and it felt like the information went right into my brain. He didnā€™t pause, digress or add anything extraneous to his sentences. There was no attitude of condescension, of letting you know heā€™s the smartest guy in the room.

Thereā€™s a sort of graciousness that some people have, even when itā€™s an absolute given that theyā€™re richer/better-looking/smarter, they donā€™t bludgeon you with it. I really appreciate that.

by Anonymousreply 64May 4, 2020 1:34 PM

Chris Evans

by Anonymousreply 65May 4, 2020 1:51 PM

Matt Damon, George Clooney, Sean Penn & Susan Sarandon. People only pay Sarandon any attention because she has big knockers.

by Anonymousreply 66May 4, 2020 1:59 PM

Will I Am owns this thread

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by Anonymousreply 67May 4, 2020 2:02 PM

No mention of James Franco yet?

by Anonymousreply 68May 4, 2020 2:02 PM

Gwyneth Paltrow. Remember when she said she had to educate Brad Pitt?

If you are ever unfortunate enough to read one of her interviews, youā€™ll see itā€™s sprinkled with ā€œlikes:ā€ ā€œAnd I was, like....ā€ She also refers to things she approves of as ā€œpunk rock,ā€ an expression the use of which should be punishable by firing squad.

by Anonymousreply 69May 4, 2020 2:03 PM

R37: I always found Jennifer Lawrence to be obnoxiously immature and there's a reason for that. Turns out she dropped out of [bold]middle school[/bold] at 14! Before the truth was discovered, her PR machinery claimed she graduated high school two years early with a 3.9 GPA, which allowed her to pursue acting with her parents' permission.

Don't these famehos realize that when you become a celebrity, people will scrutinize your history?

by Anonymousreply 70May 4, 2020 2:33 PM

Timothee Chalamet

by Anonymousreply 71May 4, 2020 2:38 PM

Denzel Washington. He almost didn't graduate college. His GPA was 1. something.

by Anonymousreply 72May 4, 2020 2:57 PM

Emma Stone

by Anonymousreply 73May 4, 2020 2:58 PM

Brie Larson

by Anonymousreply 74May 4, 2020 2:59 PM

It would be helpful if posters could back up their opinions with examples. Nothing extravagant, just a simple example or link. Otherwise, this is just another thread allowing us to spout names of celebrities we don't like.

by Anonymousreply 75May 4, 2020 3:04 PM

I agree with someone upthread on Mark Ruffalo. He's pretentious as fuck and he pisses me off more than Susan Sarandon.

by Anonymousreply 76May 4, 2020 3:12 PM

Here you go, R75!

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by Anonymousreply 77May 4, 2020 3:17 PM

Fame seems to cause a Dunning-Kruger effect. It is possible many celebrities believe that because they are high performers in their given field, they are also highly intelligent.

Or it could be they were like that even before fame.

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by Anonymousreply 78May 4, 2020 3:53 PM

Geena Davis. She does have a high IQ. And never lets us forget it.

by Anonymousreply 79May 4, 2020 4:01 PM

Johnny Depp. I don't believe I really need to make a link, or cite a specific example, as someone had suggested upthread. Everything sound stilted, and pontificus. I like that he speaks French, but do not care much for him speaking English. The self-styled accent is pretentious as well.

by Anonymousreply 80May 4, 2020 4:13 PM

Lea Michele

by Anonymousreply 81May 4, 2020 4:36 PM

Snoop Dogg

by Anonymousreply 82May 4, 2020 4:37 PM

Elizabeth Banks

by Anonymousreply 83May 4, 2020 4:44 PM

Isnā€™t it easier to highlight celebrities who actually sound intelligent when they speak? Itā€™s a surprise when a celebrity does sound intelligent when theyā€™re talking about non-industry or non-Hollywood issues. Most celebrities are street smart at best instead being intellectual or having high intelligence.

There are some exceptions who are hard to categorize, like Keanu Reeves. He comes off as introspective but not highly intelligent, heā€™ll sometimes surprise us with Deep Thoughts. Therein lies his brilliance.

by Anonymousreply 84May 4, 2020 4:47 PM

Iā€™d LOVE to find the interview Gwyneth Paltrow gave in the DailyCandy.com It was in about 2002, and Iā€™d have to go through their unsearchable archive.

The angle was her favorite things, and I still remember some of her snootiest answers. Favorite candy: I donā€™t eat candy. favorite florist: she wouldnā€™t say, because she didnā€™t want everyone using him. Favorite dry cleaner: ā€œI donā€™t know where she takes the dry-cleaningā€ Favorite bakery: something vegan banana muffins.

Iā€˜d suspect she had it scrubbed because she came off as such a snobby twat. But itā€™s relatively obscure, and I found it a couple of years ago.

by Anonymousreply 85May 4, 2020 4:55 PM

Spike Lee

by Anonymousreply 86May 4, 2020 5:11 PM

Dr. Phil & Dr.Oz

by Anonymousreply 87May 4, 2020 5:11 PM

Eva Longoria

by Anonymousreply 88May 4, 2020 5:18 PM

Depp and Penn, listed above, are prime examples.

by Anonymousreply 89May 4, 2020 5:22 PM

R71 except TimothƩe was admitted to Columbia University at age 17 and is known to have a Mensa level IQ

by Anonymousreply 90May 4, 2020 6:23 PM

Didn't a celeb get caught lying about being Mensa members years ago? I think it was a woman.

by Anonymousreply 91May 4, 2020 7:55 PM

Gov,. Andrew Cuomo

(not quite a celebrity, but he sure loves to hear himself talk.)

by Anonymousreply 92May 4, 2020 8:00 PM

[quote]Didn't a celeb get caught lying about being Mensa members years ago? I think it was a woman.

Me.

by Anonymousreply 93May 4, 2020 8:09 PM

R58 Roger Ailes said a lot of things as he was lopping up tuna salad from Au Bon Pain off his desk and tie. Any observation from Jabba isn't worth noting.

by Anonymousreply 94May 4, 2020 8:24 PM

R91 his admission to Columbia University at 17 is something he canā€™t have faked. Easily verified.

by Anonymousreply 95May 4, 2020 8:28 PM

Reese Witherspoon

by Anonymousreply 96May 4, 2020 8:33 PM

R85, I doubt the muffins were vegan. I donā€™t why she gets that label - her cookbooks (yes, I know she doesnā€™t write them) are full of chicken recipes, etc.

The rest of her answers, like the florist...SMH. Twat.

by Anonymousreply 97May 4, 2020 8:39 PM

Um, all of them.

by Anonymousreply 98May 4, 2020 10:14 PM

Leonardo DiCaprio. I actually think he's quite intelligent despite being a highschool dropout, at least by celebrity standards. He always struck me as someone who has common sense, and probably high emotional intelligence. But his 'sophisticated, thoughtful humanitarian' persona is clearly put on, and it's annoying af. At some point (10 - 15 years ago maybe?), his whole speaking style changed, even his gestures. I hate that 'new' persona ... can barely listen to him anymore.

by Anonymousreply 99May 5, 2020 2:47 AM

The Garner and Conan clip reminds me of when Kurt Loder corrected Jewel on the use of "casualty" in her poem.

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by Anonymousreply 100May 5, 2020 2:52 AM

r100 I remember this.. so cringe-y. Had Madonna used "casualty" in that way, Kurt would have told her how innovative she was.

by Anonymousreply 101May 5, 2020 2:57 AM

Al Pacino, maybe. I eagerly tuned in to watch an interview in the last year, maybe it was Actors Studio. I was hoping for brilliant insights, but he talked about very basic happenings and basic ideas. And, he spoke a out these basic pronouncements slowly and emphatically though, as if they were brilliant insights. I became bored and changed the channel. To be fair, he has never seemed to present himself as an intellectual, though.

by Anonymousreply 102May 5, 2020 3:07 AM

Many Hollywood actors have Ive League education, I get some of you are prissy jealous queens, but people can be smart and beautiful too. Actually Hollywood is way more elitist than people realize.

Nolan Gould from Modern Family is literally a Mensa member. He does give off an aspie vibe.

Keanu comes across as someone who was sexually abused as a teen.

by Anonymousreply 103May 5, 2020 3:08 AM

r103 you can have an Ivy League education and still overestimate your intelligence.

by Anonymousreply 104May 5, 2020 3:16 AM

Somewhat must have mentioned Oprah Winfrey by now.

by Anonymousreply 105May 5, 2020 3:26 AM

Oprah once mispronounced "scourge"!

by Anonymousreply 106May 5, 2020 3:31 AM

I'm sure TimothƩe is smart, but it's a bit annoying when his fans make him out to be a genius. The Mensa IQ thing is merely someone's opinion passed around enough times that other people believe it to be true. And he was already an established actor when he applied to Columbia. A person with a career at 17 is inherently a strong candidate. That had to have helped him gain admittance there, quite apart from his grades or test scores. The Statistics video doesn't exactly scream "serious student" and he said he got a D plus in that class. It's very unusual to get into an Ivy with any grades that low.

by Anonymousreply 107May 5, 2020 3:34 AM

Definitely not Trump. He's very blunt.

by Anonymousreply 108May 5, 2020 3:35 AM

R37 Most of the people on your list, while they are dumb, they don't try to sound smart.

by Anonymousreply 109May 5, 2020 3:54 AM

R37's post itself is pretty dumb.

by Anonymousreply 110May 5, 2020 4:00 AM

Dakota Fanning

by Anonymousreply 111May 5, 2020 4:10 AM

Jlaw owns this thread

by Anonymousreply 112May 5, 2020 4:13 AM

R112 no she doesn't.

by Anonymousreply 113May 5, 2020 4:55 AM

Ashley Judd.

by Anonymousreply 114May 5, 2020 5:01 AM

R107 Armie Hammer said he got a D. My guess is Armie was projecting his own failures, which are apparent, and was trying to spice up the story. He often does that. Simple minds tend to. I recall TimothƩe just smiling and probably thinking to himself what a simpleton he had to work with.

As for his IQ, who cares if itā€™s 120, 150, whatever. He comes from a line of Harvard and Yale graduates. His family obviously has he intelligence gene. Letā€™s not be so jealous. So what heā€™s pretty and clever. It happens. Itā€™s unfair but it happens.

by Anonymousreply 115May 5, 2020 5:47 AM

Justin Timberlake-point proven if you watch Hot Ones.

by Anonymousreply 116May 5, 2020 5:52 AM

ScarJo

by Anonymousreply 117May 5, 2020 6:01 AM

R113 = JLaw, scrolling DL in the next room because her new husband has banned her from ā€œsurprisingā€ his clients on Zoom meetings

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by Anonymousreply 118May 5, 2020 6:16 AM

[Quote] JLaw, scrolling DL in the next room because her new husband has banned her from ā€œsurprisingā€ his clients on Zoom meetings

Oh great, a JLaw troll šŸ™„

by Anonymousreply 119May 5, 2020 6:47 AM

Madonna

by Anonymousreply 120May 5, 2020 6:59 AM

R118 God she's such trash.

by Anonymousreply 121May 5, 2020 7:19 AM

Madonna throwing around the word ā€œreductiveā€ then telling the journalist to look it up. 1) madonna had clearly Just looked it up. 2) itā€™s not even the right word. Derivative maybe. An homage.

by Anonymousreply 122May 5, 2020 7:29 AM

People who are constantly nervous can easily sound dumber than they actually are because their thoughts are such a mess. Chalamet for example is definitely smart but due to anxiety he has problems expressing himself properly. This in turn makes him often confuse vocabulary because in high stress situations he focuses on repeating someone else's words instead of forming his own.

by Anonymousreply 123May 5, 2020 8:39 AM

pete bootyjuice

by Anonymousreply 124May 5, 2020 10:33 AM

Gwyneth Paltrow

by Anonymousreply 125May 5, 2020 10:44 AM

Imagine if proving Timothee Chalamet's intelligence were the hill you chose to die on.

by Anonymousreply 126May 5, 2020 3:34 PM

Joaquin Phoenix

by Anonymousreply 127May 5, 2020 3:49 PM

King Cuomo II is not that bright and his voice is nails on a chalkboard but he sure loves to see and hear himself talk.

by Anonymousreply 128May 5, 2020 4:05 PM

R128: The worst is when he brings his fucking daughters to his press briefings.

by Anonymousreply 129May 5, 2020 4:11 PM

Clowney

by Anonymousreply 130May 5, 2020 4:18 PM

I've got 2 ivy degrees but I'm not brilliant. All my life I've made an effort to express myself in workaday language because I hate jargon and I hated what jargon and doublespeak did to many academic fields. That is to say I think highly abstract language can be a comedy (among the cognoscenti) but so many people, of average intellect, over-invest in it. In my career there were few experiences more dismal than sitting through management or academic meetings drowning in the lexis de jour. French and German learned tradition foisted this on everyone (Trump tried and failed with "to foist") but too many Americans don't know it's a game. Dire results include almost 2 generations of elite college graduates soused in SJW speak and who don't know shit from Shinola.

by Anonymousreply 131May 5, 2020 4:26 PM

James Franco posed as an intellectual for a minute and lapped up the praise from fraus and fangurls "oh, he's so smart" for his bullshit. LOL.

by Anonymousreply 132May 5, 2020 4:28 PM

Joe Rogan.

by Anonymousreply 133May 5, 2020 4:28 PM

And Madonna? She gets a pass on lexis. The passages through Mid Atlantic and British accents were, however, risible.

by Anonymousreply 134May 5, 2020 4:29 PM

Claire Danes.

I rolled my eyes so often while listening to her interview on Fresh Air.

She uses "fancy" words -- incorrectly. She thinks "fungible" is a synonym for flexible.

by Anonymousreply 135May 5, 2020 4:30 PM

Reese Witherspoon.

by Anonymousreply 136May 5, 2020 4:32 PM

Yes, Oprah and Whoops, Madge and Jay Z, that fashion drugtard closet-case psycho married to that Kardashian, every GOP politician in office today (they're not even true Republicans, since 85% are Tea Party/White-Power/Destroy-the-US antebellum types), the insufferable Gary Oldman and the equally insufferable Edward Norton! Shia, too, as well as the repulsive Joaquin Phoenix. Miss Jolie has tried to seem smart when all she, and a lot of the others here, are merely cunning.

And, of course, Miss Markle, who has the intelligence of a sugar beet.

I never can tell if Jennifer Lug HugeTits pretends to intelligence because she seems not to be smart enough to maintain a consistent pose at it.

Courtney Love is pretentious and was dumb even before her first dose.

And Andie MacDowell, who is in a class by herself because she tries to sound more intelligent than she is by aiming at an IQ of 100, when in reality she is a pleasant person whose quotient is about 80.

by Anonymousreply 137May 5, 2020 4:33 PM

Joan Crawford's Mid Atlantic was high camp. Is that + or -, I dunno. Bette could do any voice and accent, being well born. I disliked Katharine Hepburn because she never modulated Mainline / Bryn Mawr. It was pretty fucking tiresome and pretentious.

by Anonymousreply 138May 5, 2020 4:33 PM

Kanye owns this thread

by Anonymousreply 139May 5, 2020 4:47 PM

That braindead meathead Joe Rogan

by Anonymousreply 140May 5, 2020 4:51 PM

R5 Oh God, that was cringey and delicious. What a pretentious thinks-she-knows-it-all . Even in that revealing dress and clearly trying her hardest to be sexy, she just IS NOT SEXY. She is completely sexless.

by Anonymousreply 141May 5, 2020 5:08 PM

Joe and Mika are abie-normals.

by Anonymousreply 142May 5, 2020 5:09 PM

Julia Roberts.

by Anonymousreply 143May 5, 2020 6:56 PM

You think a high school valedictorian, [italic]magna cum laude[/italic] Harvard graduate, and a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford belongs here, R124?

by Anonymousreply 144May 5, 2020 7:12 PM

Meghan Markle

by Anonymousreply 145May 5, 2020 7:13 PM

Though the following are all dead, (Sorry, I'm old!) they most certainly deserve a mention. I'm not saying any of them are stupid, nor clever, yet their manner of speaking caused many to consider them great intelligences of their time. All of them frequently used a halting, or deliberate manner to their speech: long drawn out pauses, and I believe somewhat studied and false reflections on many things they previously said.

William F. Buckley Jr.

Gore Vidal

Robert Evans

by Anonymousreply 146May 5, 2020 7:52 PM

The Trumptard trolls who constantly trash Joe and Mika need to get a life.

by Anonymousreply 147May 5, 2020 8:34 PM

All Rhodes scholars are Rhodes scholars at Oxford, r144.

by Anonymousreply 148May 5, 2020 8:37 PM

Aaron Rodgers likes to try to sound deep but he just ends up sounding like a boring asshole.

by Anonymousreply 149May 5, 2020 8:49 PM

Kate Hudson. Homer Simpson in drag.

by Anonymousreply 150May 5, 2020 11:07 PM

Judy Davis

by Anonymousreply 151May 5, 2020 11:29 PM

Sean Lennon

by Anonymousreply 152May 5, 2020 11:49 PM

R148: I know that, Sherlock. Oxford was included for R124 to emphasize how baseless his/her comment was, because Buttigieg graduated with honors from [bold]two[/bold] prestigious universities.

by Anonymousreply 153May 6, 2020 2:40 AM

Elizabeth Holmes and a sociopathic assimilater to boot.

by Anonymousreply 154May 6, 2020 2:47 AM

You know who tries to sound more intelligent than they are? CELEBRITIES. You know who else tries to sound more intelligent than they are? EVERYBODY.

by Anonymousreply 155May 6, 2020 2:55 AM

America Ferrera

by Anonymousreply 156May 6, 2020 4:13 AM

Brie Larson.

by Anonymousreply 157May 6, 2020 1:46 PM

Jesse Eisenberg

by Anonymousreply 158May 6, 2020 1:58 PM

Armie Hammer. DUMB AS A ROCK.

by Anonymousreply 159May 6, 2020 7:41 PM

Krystal Ball owns this thread.

by Anonymousreply 160May 6, 2020 7:44 PM

Darren Criss

by Anonymousreply 161May 6, 2020 7:44 PM

ALTERNATE THEORY: Sometimes these people are incredibly intelligent but lack traditional formal education. So they search for bigger words to be more specific but they've never had the actual meanings confirmed or been corrected.

I watched an old interview with courtney love and she misused a few words and instead of thinking "what a moron" i realized i was watching a highly intelligent lady who had two intelligent parents but never finished high school.

by Anonymousreply 162May 6, 2020 11:27 PM

Andy Cohen

by Anonymousreply 163May 7, 2020 1:28 AM

Sadly, even some educators are questionable.

This elderly, smug, Blythe Danner lookalike Frau sent this video of herself jumping around to R.E.M. to students requesting a partially tuition refund due to COVID-19.

She is the DEAN of NYU Tisch.

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by Anonymousreply 164May 7, 2020 3:05 AM

Don Lemon with his pregnant pauses before everything.

by Anonymousreply 165May 7, 2020 5:00 AM

Diana Ross

by Anonymousreply 166May 7, 2020 5:02 AM

He is not the only one that does that R165. Rachel Maddow has a way of halting that drives me crazy. I know it is used for dramatic effect, but it loses that when it is used over and over

by Anonymousreply 167May 7, 2020 1:21 PM

If, according to R37, someone like Oprah Winfrey -- who had a very successful, decades-spanning career in media and interviewed everyone from Elie Wiesel to Michelle Obama to the Dalai Lama -- is "dumb as an ashtray," what words do you use for people who actually do fit that desciption? If only all dumber-than-dirt people could be so high-functioning. I'm no fan of Winrey but at least I acknowledge her accomplishments .

by Anonymousreply 168May 9, 2020 1:28 PM

R168, that's true. It's better not to generalize the particular form of the case that Ms. Winfrey represents.

She is the type who thinks that because she had success in managing (or facilitating a professional team to develop and manage the brand) a career as a schmoozing, manipulative, "inspirational" and engaging television interviewer, she believed that her wealth somehow made her knowledgable about every subject in the world, and informed as an expert in every topic. She came to believe that she had a power and wisdom to lead "followers" into a better life.

In other words, she tried to sound more intelligent than she actually is, if intelligence includes prudence and self-awareness. And her attempts to convert social influence into pseudo-messianic messaging while raking in the dough also marks her as something more appalling than a mere overreacher.

Not that I think she has done as much harm as she might have. But she is ego-driven, not message- or truly mission-driven, and that shows something that appropriately runs against what most of us would call intelligence. It's called cunning.

by Anonymousreply 169May 9, 2020 1:49 PM

R169, you're overreaching because you dislike Oprah so much.

So yeah, she's not as brilliant as she thinks she is, and isn't an intellectual. That doesn't mean she isn't intelligent.

by Anonymousreply 170May 9, 2020 4:21 PM

Oprah Winfrey has her faults but she's obviously an intelligent woman.

by Anonymousreply 171May 9, 2020 4:30 PM

After reading many comments on DL for years this thread could apply to many posters here.

by Anonymousreply 172May 14, 2020 4:37 AM

Jenny McCarthy. Jesus Christ, she was never funny in the first place--men only laughed at her jokes because of her rack. And then, she tries to be an anti-vaxx expert with Joy Behar constantly telling her "oh, you're so cute!". Everything you do is dumb, Jenny. DUMB!

by Anonymousreply 173May 14, 2020 4:47 AM

Candace Cameron Bure

by Anonymousreply 174May 14, 2020 4:55 AM

Patti Smith

by Anonymousreply 175May 14, 2020 5:20 AM

Patricia Heaton. Yes, we get it, you are a Republican and you think abortion is the worst thing in the world. And it's impressive how you seem to milk that discussion for everything it's worth. Now go away.

by Anonymousreply 176May 14, 2020 11:22 AM

Years ago, Patricia Heaton got involved with campaigns/organizations that were against embryonic stem cell research and she bashed the late Christopher Reeve and Michael J. Fox in a couple of interviews which pissed off a lot of people with Parkinsons and spinal cord injuries. Heaton later apologized after appearing in some anti-stem cell research ad and it was clear the apology was just done to smooth things over with MJF. I don't think she ever gave some phony apology to Christopher and Dana Reeve's family.

by Anonymousreply 177May 14, 2020 4:24 PM

Okay now you all are just listing Republican cunts you hate.

by Anonymousreply 178May 15, 2020 1:48 AM

R177 MJF should have told her to fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 179May 15, 2020 3:19 AM

R178, are you new here? You can hate Patricia for being Republican AND because she thinks she's more intelligent than she really is. In fact, those two things may be interconnected.

by Anonymousreply 180May 15, 2020 3:20 AM

Shirley McLaine

by Anonymousreply 181May 15, 2020 4:48 AM

Darren Criss

by Anonymousreply 182May 15, 2020 4:50 AM

Leonardo DiCaprio

by Anonymousreply 183May 19, 2020 3:07 AM

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by Anonymousreply 184May 19, 2020 3:43 AM

Jeremy Renner

by Anonymousreply 185May 19, 2020 4:05 AM

Courtney Love and Angelina Jolie are both highly intelligent. It comes with being a psychopath.

by Anonymousreply 186May 19, 2020 4:36 AM

Sarah Jessica Parker

by Anonymousreply 187May 25, 2020 1:34 AM

Jody Foster. She may have gone to a fancy school and all, but...

by Anonymousreply 188May 25, 2020 4:29 AM

It's Jodie!

by Anonymousreply 189May 25, 2020 10:14 AM

So basically, ALL of them?

by Anonymousreply 190May 25, 2020 11:23 AM

Demi Moore, sadly, because it's more lack of formal education than anything else.

I remember my mother watching an interview of hers, and exclaiming, "She's very intelligent." Mom was a math teacher and had a way picking out the smart ones, so there's that.

But, Moore's lack of education is staggering - just deciding to make that Scarlet Letter movie at all was inexplicable.

by Anonymousreply 191May 25, 2020 11:48 AM

R104, an Ivy League education doesn't mean what it used to.

They no longer admit only the best and brightest (although its arguable if they ever did what with money and legacy admissions). Now a days, Harvard and its ilk "curate" their incoming student body. It's like they are at a buffet, and they take a teaspoon of everything, rather than loading up on prime rib.

by Anonymousreply 192May 25, 2020 11:59 AM

Shia Labeouf pronouncing "epitome" owns this thread.

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by Anonymousreply 193May 25, 2020 12:12 PM

OP is just closed minded.

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by Anonymousreply 194May 25, 2020 12:55 PM

Most anyone who attempts to over-intellectualize a topic ends up looking foolish, no matter what their level of expertise is. Don't attempt to get above your raising and people will take you more seriously. There's nothing wrong with just saying "I have no knowledge or expertise in that". People who can properly simplify a difficult topic so more people can understand it are always taken more seriously.

Celebrities are all to often in performance mode even if the cameras aren't trained on them, as long as there's someone around they can try and impress. I believe it's in their genetic makeup.

by Anonymousreply 195May 25, 2020 1:06 PM

For R132

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by Anonymousreply 196May 25, 2020 1:07 PM

Ha

R164

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by Anonymousreply 197May 25, 2020 1:09 PM

I remember seeing CNN journalist Wolf Blitzer on an episode of celebrity Jeopardy. Does anyone remember that? I thought that he would win or at least score high but he couldnā€™t get any of the answers right and I say he tries to sound intelligent because he does sound intelligent when heā€™s reading the news but when heā€™s not in front of a news Teleprompter, he doesnā€™t really know shit.

by Anonymousreply 198May 25, 2020 1:18 PM

Most TV news people come off as morons when they're left to their own resources and don't have a script to read. Just listen to even the big guys when they're reporting on a major breaking story and haven't had time to have anything written for them. They can't even string 5 words together without uhing and ahing every other word. They sound like low grade morons.

by Anonymousreply 199May 25, 2020 1:28 PM

R198, didn't Wolf finish with like -$10,000? He was banished from final Jeopardy, which only happens to rare losers, retards, and sacks of shit.

by Anonymousreply 200May 25, 2020 2:54 PM

Go home, fat whores, I have the mother of all idiots to throw into the mix:

LeBron James

By defending China and saying his coach wasnā€™t educated when he spoke out against China and then having to apologize because he was too stupid to know about Chinaā€™s human rights record. As well, he did not even know what an authoritarian government WAS because the NBA makes so much money from China and he wanted to protect his revenue stream.

He has a show called The Shop where he brings a bunch of celebrities together and they talk about life etc. Itā€™s painfully, painfully obvious he knows nothing but the words ā€œrevenue stream, income stream, branding opportunities, and strategizingā€. He talks like a fucking Tony Robbins seminar. Itā€™s embarrassing. Most sports figures arenā€™t too bright but James is a different league of stupid person who thinks heā€™s smart. Heā€™s a male version of Goop.

by Anonymousreply 201May 25, 2020 3:39 PM

Olivia Wilde. To be fair, she is genuinely intelligent, but she's also a little bit pretentious.

by Anonymousreply 202May 25, 2020 4:24 PM

R202 I agree with you.

by Anonymousreply 203May 25, 2020 11:04 PM

R10 The original Rocky is considered one of the greatest screenplays of all-time and is taught in film schools to this day, so I can see where he thought that he could've had a writing career.

by Anonymousreply 204May 25, 2020 11:09 PM

R164 Everything about this is baffling to me. What it a joke? Was it meant to be a comfort? What does it have to do with a tuition refund?

by Anonymousreply 205May 25, 2020 11:21 PM

Ivanka Trump owns this thread.

by Anonymousreply 206May 25, 2020 11:23 PM

Chris Evans.

by Anonymousreply 207May 26, 2020 3:24 AM

Mel Gibson.

by Anonymousreply 208May 26, 2020 3:32 AM

Ricky Martin. In his interviews he tries to sound like heā€™s all New-Agey and spiritual but he never really makes sense.

by Anonymousreply 209May 26, 2020 8:26 AM

Lens Dunham. Years ago some publication was remembering some relevant anniversary pertaining to Sylvia Plath, so they solicited short essays from about a dozen folks to discuss Plath, her work, her impact, etc. 11 of them were literary critics, Plath scholars, or esteemed professors of the humanities. One of them was a pretentious cow, desperate to sound profound, but just ended up embarrassing herself instead. I wonder if the editor who decided to include her piece did it out of spite.

by Anonymousreply 210May 26, 2020 9:26 AM

Nicole Kidman

by Anonymousreply 211May 26, 2020 9:39 AM

Henry Cavill trying to correct someone and it bounced back and bitch slapped him.

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by Anonymousreply 212May 26, 2020 9:53 AM

R212 "all white people look the same to me" šŸ˜„ Thanks for posting.

by Anonymousreply 213May 26, 2020 12:07 PM

OPRAH is certainly of AVERAGE intelligence. Still she's EXTREMELY rich. She must have someone VERY clever investing her money all these years.

by Anonymousreply 214May 26, 2020 12:35 PM

R214 Its a shame she wouldn't get something done about her appalling feet.

by Anonymousreply 215May 26, 2020 2:27 PM

R215 is she worse than Ezra Miller??

by Anonymousreply 216May 26, 2020 2:33 PM

Oprah wears ladies size 10s...she said that she spent a lot of time forcing her feet into smaller shoes and it had a bad effect on her feet.

by Anonymousreply 217May 26, 2020 2:36 PM

Why are some posters here reluctant to admit that Oprah is smart? She can't be fabulously rich AND have a decent set of brains? The world would be quite a different place if all people of average intelligence (see R214's post) functioned in life like she did. And I'm speaking as someone who is quite indifferent to her

by Anonymousreply 218May 26, 2020 3:01 PM

R218, because it is much easier for some (*cough* R206 *cough*) to accept their lot in life, if they believe that successful people are successful only because of luck or dishonesty.

If they were forced to acknowledge that many successful people are successful because of an innate talent or skill or even the dint of hard work, then their own lives, which they have never learned to accept anyway, would be that much more horrible to them.

by Anonymousreply 219May 26, 2020 8:47 PM

Oprah is obviously quite intelligent, but because her mind and preferences and monumentally frau-ish and middlebrow, people with snobbish tendencies look down on her.

But they're the stupid ones, they don't realize that good taste and highbrow preferences are not actually an indicator of intelligence, they're just indicators of good taste! Intelligence doesn't necessarily equate with intellectual credentials or being cultured, never make that mistake when dealing with real people.

by Anonymousreply 220May 26, 2020 10:41 PM

You know who looked like a REAL dummy that guy from Knots Landing. Ted Shakelford.

by Anonymousreply 221May 26, 2020 11:17 PM

R188 WADR, Foster doesn't need to speak in elevated language, as she's naturally intelligent, and it's obvious to most. She probably just happens to be in possession of a much larger vocabulary than you're accustomed to seeing an actress use. Her French is impeccable for an American as well.

I DO happen to be a lover of lesbians, yet I'm confident I'm not guilty of bias here.

by Anonymousreply 222May 27, 2020 1:03 AM

No athlete should be allowed to say anything, unless it's sport related.

by Anonymousreply 223May 27, 2020 3:04 PM
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