Stimulus for social security recipients

Yes they get the same $1,200.

Which I disagree with -- they have not lost a job or income, they still receive their normal benefit payments.

R1 has a point.

many SS recipients don't get enough to even cover their rent.

R1, people who still have a job or income receive it as well.

People with a fixed or limited income will go out and spend the stimulus money, so it makes sense to give stimulus checks to people on SS.

Bill just passed Senate. Income must be below $99,000. to get it.

Many SS recipients do work R1. I know 2 older people who are getting SS and are working fulltime to make ends meet.

You have to also remember that many social security recipients are on fixed incomes and are in the age group told to quarantine themselves the most. Many of them had the added expense of trying to buy enough supplies, if they could find them, to carry them through so they wouldn't have to keep going to the store.

And life has gotten a bit more expensive for us old folks. I am having to use a food delivery service which marks of the regular price of the food then tacks on a fee. Plus there is the tip to the person who brings it out. I will put the 1200 to good use, believe me.

My mom will be excited if this is true. I see complications though. Her SS is low enough so she qualifies for MediCaid. I'm afraid the 1,200 will disqualify her from coverage. If that's the case, I would advise her not to take the check. Not that she ever listens to me.

So for the red states that nobody wants to go to and where they have hardly any infections or have not been impacted, they're going to get a nice little kiss of money from Trump because of their avg lower salaries.

But the blue states, with large metro areas where $100k hardly covers basics and are dealing with lockdown and high unemployment, they get nothing.

This could have been handled SOOOO much better. Red states come out winning again. Blue states get fucked.

After 99K you get nothing. Is it based on gross income or AGI?

R10, I doubt they will knock her off MediCaid for receiving a one-time stimulus check.

R10 the 1200 shouldn't cause your mom any problems

Must be an election year. Trump’s doubling the extra tax rebates W. cranked out after Florida and the Supreme Court handed him an election HE didn’t win. There’s a pattern here but Americans are too blinded by Oxy, booze, and TV to see it.

R15 - and he's giving the money away to red states, the majority of which are not on lockdown and have not suffered any downturns. Plus they make less on average, so they get more of the money.

The bailouts should go to the hardest hit states only and those with provable shutdown economies. Not just a free for all.

Which states are not impacted r11? Every single state has coronavirus cases and is going to keep having more of them. This virus doesn't care about statelines. Of course the stimulus checks are going to go to everyone.

Really r1? Thanks r4.

People who have kept their job and were not financially disadvantaged are getting this check, and you are upset that people getting by on social security are getting it?!

It amazes me how jealous and petty people are about middle/lower class in America all getting a one time payment of some paltry 1200 dollars.

I would think everyone would agree that is the least we can do for everyone, and be more concerned with the hundreds, and hundreds of billions dollars going to corporations is going to play out.

[quote]People with a fixed or limited income will go out and spend the stimulus money

Go out where?

Most things are closed and there's nowhere to go.

What are they going to spend their money on?

Go online to IRS.gov and enter your direct deposit information to get it quickly deposited into your checking account. Otherwise it will come snail mail, and may be stolen.

I expect a lot of checks to 'disappear'.

Most Social Security recipients lost the ability to be stimulated decades ago.

I'm retired on a Federal pension and don't get Social Security (those hired before 1984 were exempt). But my pension is over $99K, so I guess no stimulus for me. No big deal -- more for people who really need it.

It's a stimulus check, not a 'You're doing a good job check." Many people on SS are poor, and that's where stimulus money does the most good.

R13 and R14, thank you.

I think 2018 was the first year my mom didn't file as that was her first full year of retirement. Her SS is less than the standard deduction so she doesn't have to file. Hoping it works out that the system will just direct deposit to the bank account on record for her SS checks.

The problem with focusing on NYC is it does need help. But the mayor and Cuomo are solely interested in their own state and city, even at the expense of other cities.

I disagree with it. Even for my mother who lives in poverty on SS. But it’s representative of the nature of this bill - a huge payoff of borrowed money to make Trump voters happy. Here’s $2 trillion more of debt millennials and Gen Z - maybe get out and vote in November.

You all thinking people on SS don't need it. Well to someone making minimum wage $50K/year sounds like a lot. I'm sure they are thinking let's give the really poor people checks for $2,400 and cut those over fifty thousand a year.

It's two separate issues that shouldn't be combined. SS needs to be fixed and it should, but on its own. The funny thing about including SS in this is that it can now go ignored because politician an point to this bill and say they help SS recipients.

R17 - there are many states not on lockdown, meaning everything is still open and operating normally. Presumably, their local economies have not been affected by the shutdown, so why the hell are they receiving the checks? They haven't lost their service jobs.

These are the only states on lockdown, from the latest news - which is albeit 2 days old from what I can find. Everybody else is not, so why are they getting stimulus payments? Below are mainly blue states. They should receive the money, not the bumfuck states.

California Connecticut Delaware Florida Illinois Indiana Louisiana Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Nevada New Jersey New Mexico New York Ohio Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island Texas West Virginia Wisconsin

A hell of a lot of SS recipients are working. They are also affected.I have seen Lyft/Uber drivers, grocery store workers, retail workers, etc. all seniors all working. They work at McDonald's, Wendy's and Burger King. So stop bitching about them getting a little extra money. They have suffered loss of income too.And it's the difference between paying for prescriptions or paying the water bill. A a well known retail outlet near me sent all their older workers home. Laid them off. because of the risks.

My state, Illinois, is on lockdown for a week and a half now.. Plenty is still open, you just have to call ahead and they will get it to you..

[quote] R25: The problem with focusing on NYC is it does need help. But the mayor and Cuomo are solely interested in their own state and city, even at the expense of other cities.

In fairness:

They are hit far harder, right now.

NYC has a unique position as the financial and cultural capital of the US, and largest city. It’s not nothing and if you lose NY, you lose the country.

Governor Coumo is setting an example for leadership to wake-up this country that is exemplary.

It is his job to advocate for NYC, not WY, UT, AK, or elsewhere. Though, he has been respectful of other areas that are likewise responsible.

[quote] A hell of a lot of SS recipients are working. They are also affected.I have seen Lyft/Uber drivers, grocery store workers, retail workers, etc. all seniors all working. They work at McDonald's, Wendy's and Burger King. So stop bitching about them getting a little extra money. They have suffered loss of income too.And it's the difference between paying for prescriptions or paying the water bill. A a well known retail outlet near me sent all their older workers home. Laid them off. because of the risks.

Ok, dammit!!! I retract my objection!

[quote] But my pension is over $99K

Wow. What kind of job did you have?

R29 you left some states out. I live in SC and we are pretty much on lockdown, schools closed, no groups over three, restaurants on take out delivery only, etc...

Yeah, sometimes I truly regret not going into a career/job with a pension. 401Ks can tank...Do the math to safely generate 80K in retirement, you need $2M in investments. I was chugging along, stashing over 30% of my income into my retirement funds and look at them now. I know likely, somewhere, down the road, they *should* bounce back. But who knows.

I talked with someone who works for UCLA and they told me, if you work there for 30 years, you retire at 100% of your income as a pension. 100%! They're only in their 40's but they're almost there because they started working there right after college. If you're at UCLA for 30 plus years and not a clerk or janitor, you're likely making north of 100K. That's a pretty damn good pension. To generate that from retirement funds, you'd need 2.5M.

Way to not-so-humble brag, r22.

Glad you’re ok with the peons getting some crumbs.

r34 Nothing special. Retired at 58 as a GS-14 with 37 years of service. My pension is around 72% of my high-3 salary. I planned well.

I'm sorry, but I don't like the idea that a person worked for the federal government and receives a pension over $99k.

You know pensions used to be commonplace for everyone r39, maybe instead of hating on that some few workers still get treated with dignity, you can hate on corporations who chipped away at the rights of workers?

Man, people love squabbling among each other and ignoring the real enemy.

I have no problems with private pensions and I think everyone should still have them. I, however, have a problem with public servants having such generous pensions.

SS recipients just had to go out and buy $1200 worth of toilet paper, hand sanitizer, soaps, bleach, paper towerls etc. like everyone else - so yes they should get it too.

As I tell everyone -- you all had the opportunity to work in a job that paid a generous pension ... you just chose otherwise. Not my problem. I decided early on I wanted job security and good benefits.

Believe me, Federal employees give up a LOT compared to those in the private sector while we're working. Salaries are MUCH lower, we don't get huge bonuses, parties, gifts, etc. Raises are dictated by Congress, and salaries are capped by them as well.

I’m retired. I worked in IT for financial companies. The reputation traditionally was that government jobs were the worst, but had good pensions. I know many went years without raises, especially around the Bush crash. I can’t fault them for paying good pensions.

And R40 is right, too.

Yeah - I avoided teaching because it didn’t pay well. Now teachers are retiring at 56 with pensions worth $2 million+. They deserve it. I made the wrong choice.

R30 please name the retail outlet

Unfortunately yes. Us working stiffs will have to pay for it soon.