Hottest Statue?

Apparently OP is not a size queen.

Not quite a statue (so shoot me already) but lots of hot men in Russian workers' friezes.

Laocoön and his sons. A muscular, mature man with a beard. One of those things I saw at an early age and knew I wasn’t like most of the other boys. Yeah, I know it’s about suffering and stuff but I guess I figured I could alleviate some of it.

Incidentally, great idea for a thread OP.

perhaps not a best thread for DL

“Greeks associated small and non-erect penises with moderation, which was one of the key virtues that formed their view of ideal masculinity,” explains classics professor Andrew Lear, who has taught at Harvard, Columbia and NYU and runs tours focused on gay history. “There is the contrast between the small, non-erect penises of ideal men (heroes, gods, nude athletes etc) and the over-size, erect penises of Satyrs (mythic half-goat-men, who are drunkards and wildly lustful) and various non-ideal men. Decrepit, elderly men, for instance, often have large penises.” Grant Mitchell/ Athens Archaeological Museum/ Creative Commons Statue of the satyr Silenus, a companion of the god of wine.

Similar ideas are reflected in ancient Greek literature, says Lear. For example, in Aristophanes’ Clouds a large penis is listed alongside a “pallid complexion,” a “narrow chest,” and “great lewdness” as one of the characteristics of un-athletic and dishonorable Athenian youths.

Only grotesque, foolish men who were ruled by lust and sexual urges had large penises in ancient Greece. Art history blogger Ellen Oredsson notes on her site that statues of the era emphasized balance and idealism.

“The ideal Greek man was rational, intellectual and authoritative,” she wrote. “He may still have had a lot of sex, but this was unrelated to his penis size, and his small penis allowed him to remain coolly logical.”

There are several theories as to why the “ideal” penis size developed from small in ancient Greece to large today. Lear suggests that perhaps the rise of porn, or an ideological push to subject men to the same body shaming that women typically face, are behind the modern emphasis on having a large penis.

But Lear adds that in both societies, ideas about penis size are completely “unrelated to reality or aesthetics.” Contrary to popular myth, there’s no clear evidence that a large penis correlates with sexual satisfaction. Nor is there proof that a small penis is a sign of moderation and rationality.

“Greek men saw each other nude all the time in the gymnasium, so they must have been aware, at some level, that not every admirably moderate man had a small penis, and not every immoderate, cowardly, drunken man a large one,” adds Lear.

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Le génie du mal or The Genius of Evil, known informally as Lucifer or The Lucifer of Liège, by Guillaume Geefs.

Older thread on hot statues

ditto to Laocoon, I remember getting a hard on in Art History when the professor put the slide up. Hot daddy with an amazing body, and the two lithe boys that get to be there with him.

the two golden young men, to be so close to Laocoon’s firm nude body, and be near his adult manly penis, with no shame, just love

Here's another thing about that statuary. It's theorized that they weren't always white in color. They were painted. I'd have love to have seen the one of David all painted. I picture slightly olive colored skin and hazel eyes. sort of like mine.

Only difference whilst I too am majority Mediterranean is I also have hair everywhere. I chalk it up to having 250 Neandthal variants in my DNA.

R10, you're thinking of ancient Egyptian statues. They were painted. Michelangelo - who sculpted the David - sculpted out of incredibly high-quality pieces of marble, and he didn't paint his work.

These were pretty hot for their time.

"Only grotesque, foolish men who were ruled by lust and sexual urges had large penises in ancient Greece."

Evidence that ancient Greece was not only completely ruled by men, in terms of politics, fashion, social mores, it was ruled by Tops.

I always loved this Roman statue, "The Dying Gaul".

Greek and Roman art usually depicted Greek and Roman men with carefully styled hair, smooth faces and bodies, and features ironed into whatever was fashionable at the time. But this statue is of a man with shaggy hair and a pornstache, as well as lots of beautifully displayed muscles, he just looks butcher than his civilized contemporaries.

Pity about the size, though.

R10 and R11, ancient Greek and Roman statues were painted, same as Egyptian, art historians have done molecular analysis of microscopic paint fragments to show us what the things originally looked like. And all the re-creations look absolutely hideous.

Renaissance sculptors used plain white marble, because they were trying to imitate the ancient Greek and Roman statues visible in their day. What they saw had either been weathering or buried for centuries, which had gotten rid of all the tacky paint, so as far as they knew white marble was the only way to go.

Oh and BTW, the statuary on the Gothic cathedrals of the middle ages were also painted.

Arno Breker's stuff - though he did a lot of Nazi commissions.

I like this statue of Pan in Oslo, Norway. No city in the US would dare put up a statue of a naked man with an erection in their town square!

The Farnese "Hercules" is pretty hot.

Am I remembering correctly, isn't there a statue of Hercules where his elbow is resting on a short column?

R15, that's absolutely right. But Michelangelo and other Renaissance sculptors didn't paint their statues, and the David was not painted. That's all I was trying to say. You seem to want to refute me, but we agree on this.

Please, who posted that nazi shit? Seriously, there's plenty of really hot statues, don't bother us with that crap. Yes, R16, that was for you.

There's a troll who sneaks his Nazi propaganda into completely unrelated threads. FF his ass.

Hello?

Your mother gives head to statues.

Sculpture scene from "Pride and Prejudice" shot at Chatsworth, the ancestral home of the Duke of Devonshire. During the extras on the DVD, the director, Joe Something or Other, stated that each one was worth in excess of $20 Million. I'm especially partial to the "Veiled Lady" sculpture.

Much of Arno Breker's work is homoerotic. As I mentioned in my post, he received a lot of Nazi commissions, but he was a successful sculptor before the Third Reich and (unlike someone like Leni Riefenstahl) continued to receive international commissions for the rest of his life (he died in 1991). There is also an Arno Breker museum in Germany that was opened in 1985 - Riefenstahl's works, on the other hand, are prohibited in Germany. I am not some Nazi troll.

The Barberini Faun.

I always thought the Pieta depiction of Jesus as quite beautiful.

He's covered-up, but maybe this guy. Center piece (?) of Trevi Fountain, Rome, Italy.

That would be Neptune, R28

I've always been partial to Herakles the Archer by Bourdelle

Angel at the Sepulchre by Erastus Down Palmer.

He's strong and handsome and very hot.

Threads like this are why I love the Datalounge!

A perfect mixture of erudition and horndoggery.

Thanks R5 for Lear’s analysis.

Relating statuary penis size to Greek ideals makes a lot of sense. Our obsession with large penises may similarly be linked to capitalist ideal of the bottom line and the bottomless greed.

One wishes Lear were on here.

All the classics have micro peens. Why is this?

R32, in our case it's not bottomless greed, it's *bottom* greed.

R33 - for crying out loud, read the thread. There's a response all about this.

It also occurs to me, r5 et al, that the purpose of the commissioning of these statues needs to be taken in account. Perhaps Lear talks about it?

For works that are paid for by the people in authority and commissioned from the finest artists, they were meant to project power, awe, respect, admiration, worship etc I would imagine.

It would not do to display large penises or anything that would be considered pornographic or elicit schoolboy titters. Private collections of pornography in ancient cultures show large erections in lascivious depictions that are meant to excite carnal desire.

One more observation and I’ll stop.

R24 is a work of vanity and not of art. It is a pale (sic) imitation of an ideal that is counter to the society of the artist. It is an untroubled work with. I character and no tension. In fact its value in currency is calculated and displayed. England after all was a nation of shopkeepers (Napoleon) with no mythology of its own (Forster).

Compare r24 to the Greek statues it copies from and aspires to. There is a superficiality in the English work. It is the work of a good craftsman. In the forearms of Jesus in pieta r27 one can even see the veins “under” the skin.

There probably were inferior commonplace works like r24 in the houses of minor officials in Greek times too. And pornography. Or pron as we’d have it.

I saw this photos of Tom Daley a few years back and immediately thought of Rodin's Age of Bronze, so I made a panorama of the two.

Rodin's "The Age of Bronze" fun facts

"Rodin had a Belgian soldier pose for the statue, keeping photographs which survive (in the Rodin Museum).

"When the statue was first exhibited at the 1877 Salon in Paris, France, Rodin was falsely accused of having made the statue by casting a living model, a charge that was vigorously denied. This charge benefited Rodin though, because people were so eager to see this for themselves."

i still like to believe that this was "life cast" (i.e, that Rodin applied wet plaster to the actual body of the belgian soldier.)

This;

Rare

R41 - I was going to post Kouros! (I used to have the cologne too!)

There are many versions of "The Wrestlers" but this one is my favorite.

[quote]All those statues and their beautiful bodies kept me in a constant state of arousal

Pics please.

So the janitors got busy with a chisel and.....well, the teachers weren't offended anymore. The next day there was a sign on the statue that said: "Miss Sydney was here."

R43 is forbidden to me

Hermes of Praxiteles is one of my favourites.

I liked the curly hair. Did Grecians have curly hair back then, or is the curly hair symbolic of perhaps youth or something deific/transcendent? EDUCATE ME, NERDS!

Here's another one for you, R46.

They way they captured male beauty... FUCK. The feminine form barely mattered back then, but the men. I bet it's the muscles. Much more interesting to sculpt. More definition, and therefore skill required to emulate.

Men wrestling is a common visual theme throughout various forms of art and I LOOOOOOOVE it, cause you can go to museums and see them and all the straights hold their chins and go, [italic]hmmmmm[/italic], while I'm like, [italic]IS THERE ROOM FOR ONE MORE?![/italic]

Perseus by Canova

Bearded Hercules statue at the Met.

Canova's Perseus is actually quite underwhelming from the front, and I don't mean because of the tinymeat, I mean the under-defined muscles and the overly stylized pubic hair, the dull expression, all of it. He's a much more interesting sculpture from behind.

A metaphor for something, I'm sure.

[quote]That would be Neptune, R28.

Nope. The central statue of the Trevi fountain is Oceanus.

I quite like Seated Hermes.

R53, it is kind of cool, restrained, classical, correct, etc. but I like it. Kind of elegant.

Excellent choice, R6.

i also like the one of jesus in his moms lap, at the vatican......reverent yet erotic

PIETA

“Spartacus” 1830, Denis Foyatier.

Jason with the Golden Fleece - Bertel Thorvaldsen

Theseus Temple, Volksgarten, Vienna

Benvenuto Cellini's Perseus

I like him. Archimèdes, Simon-Louis Boquet, 1752 Musée du Louvre, Paris

[quote] All those statues and their beautiful bodies kept me in a constant state of arousal, as did some of the men, and the pizza, and the Arno.

I have to say, as far as sexually arousal goes with regards to rivers, the Arno did nothing for me. Maybe I'm unusual that way.

Hadrian's Antinous

Marble statue of a youthful Hercules A.D. 69–96

Monument to the Fallen - Sculptor Francesco Paolo Como

Walker Hancock - “Angel of the Resurrection” the Pennsylvania Railroad World War II Memorial,1952

One of my professors told the class that Donatello's David was "obviously the work of a homosexual"....

Ares Borghese

I have to say that the effeminacy of that David statue turns me off, R69. Yes, I am a bad gay.

Yeah, not a good look in 2020.

Franz Metzner, Austrian Sculptor, 1870-1919

Le Désespoir, Jean-Joseph Perraud, 1869 Musée d'Orsay, Paris

Torso of a Hellenistic Ruler (or Hero), marble, Roman, after original around 160-140 BC. Altes Museum Berlin

The back side is good too ^^

R61 is Young Athlete by Josef Müllner, 1921. You can actually read the sign identifying it on google street view.

I like this Diadoumenos in a museum in Athens more than the one at the Met.

The Ludovisi Mars.

Doryphoros

The hot wetness of Neptune wasn’t found wanting.

The Belvedere Torso, in the Vatican Museum, from Rome, 1st c. BCE. This was apparently once a statue of the hero Ajax.

It was so beloved by Michelangelo that many of the paintings he did in the Sistine Chapel are based on it. (During his lifetimne, it was so associated with him that it was jokingly dubbed "School of Michelangelo"). it also hugely influenced Raphael as well.

Should have called this thread "cum gutters on parade"....

Bernini's Triton Fountain, Rome.

Neptune fountain in Bologna, Italy

The butt on the man in the lower section of the Mechanics' Monument on Market Street in San Francisco has been mucha dmired by gay men over the decades.

Apparently the sculptor did not intend for it to look so homoerotic.

Statue of Alexander the Great in Istanbul Archaeology Museum

Yugoslav partisan memorial, Tivoli Park, Ljubljana, Slovenia

I read somewhere that Greeks considered muscular glutes on a man to be representative of his virility, more so than the size of his genitalia.

R89 - a big penis was considered vulgar and not in step with the ideals of Greek beauty. That’s what I tell everyone when I slip out of my under garments.

Stadio dei Marmi, Foro Italico, Rome, 1931

Good choice, R14. So good, in fact, that I'm re-posting a picture of the Dying Gaul. I agree with your assessment of the statue's appeal. In addition, I love the lean, naturally athletic musculature, which is more appealing to me than some of the idealized classical sculptures that depict subjects who appear to have been the gymrats of antiquity.

Napoleon as Mars the Peacemaker, Antonio Canova, 1806

Chief Solano by William Gordon Huff 1934

The Dead Pearl Diver by Benjamin Paul Akers.

The detail on the net is so amazing it adds to the sensuousness.

Los Portadores de la Antorcha ("The Torch Bearers") by Anna Hyatt Huntington 1955

Love the willy covering, R91.

Hellenistic Prince

Neptune fountain, Piazza Navona, Rome

Neptune was some alpha daddy back in the day.

[quote]Neptune was some alpha daddy back in the day

The baroque drama of it all, fighting sea monsters!

Atlantes cut out of grey granite after the models by sculptor Alexander Terebenev at the New Hermitage in Saint-Petersburg.

An obvious choice. Just block out the nude woman.

All the statues on Piazza della Signoria in Florence are hot

My fave Giambolgna's Mercury aka FTD Florist.

Allegory Statue of the Holy Roman Empire, Bosquet de l'Arc de Triomphe - Petit Parc du Château de Versailles

Yeah but he's a little too scrawny to be really hot, R105 / Sanjay.

I really like that one, R106. Thanks.

Apollo attended by Nymphs by Girardon in the gardens of Versailles

More beautiful than hot.

Neptune is a hot daddy.

[quote]That would be Neptune, [R28]

No, r29. You need to brush up on your Greek mythology. The central figure at the Trevi Fountain is not Neptune, but Oceanus.

This is Neptune at the Piazza della Signoria in Florence.

And this is Oceanus at the Trevi Fountain in Rome.

Amazing. Who were these sculptors??!! No one has surpassed them in all these years. There is no such thing as progress in art.

I want Neptune in me quite deeply.

Hot is in the eye of the beholder, but for sheer homoeroticism, I think it would be hard to top (no pun intended) Michelangelo's Dying Slave.

Jupiter of Versailles

Did these sculptors use live models?

Wouldn't a sculpture take too long for you to use a live model? Painting is usually much faster.

I believe the ancient Romans copied a lot of Greek statues they liked.

Modern sculptors also make a maquette first.

Aw. The naked guy has a sensitive side. How sweet.

The child Oedipus revived by the shepherd Phorbas by Antoine-Denis Chaudet

They loved puny cocklets in the olden days.

R121 that shepherd's bush is executed deliciously.

I remember seeing a lot of dicks at the Met years ago.

Hahaha. Do you mean penises on statues or pretentious, annoying visitors, R124?

R17 I'm shocked, amazed and delighted. I guess the patina is affected by strangers fondling him.

Sydney has its own satyr near the Opera House but his flaccid penis is obscured his left leg.

R125 To be clear, I meant the statues. I mean A LOT of dicks. I don't know if it was a dick expo or dick month, but it was getting me a bit hot and bothered. Especially seeing a dick on a 9 ft statue that is in proportion.

I agree, R123.

When I first saw a pic of this statue, I thought he looked like a naked construction worker because of the hat.

Oh, I see, R127. Must have been fun.

I remember hearing about the Masculine / Masculine exhibition at the Musée d'Orsay. It was about the male nude in art. I don't know if it travelled to the U.S.

Overall, it seems to me the French are more reluctant to show male nudes in all their glory, ie. penises. The Italians seem to have no hang ups about it.

I would think the Vatican Museums would have tons of phalluses because of all the statues from Ancient Greece and Rome, unless many of them have fig leaves added later on by prudish clerics.

Do you remember what the name of the 9 foot statue was, R127?

Interesting R129 that the French would have hangups on nudity. You also just reinforce my desire to visit Italy for myriad penis and non-penis related reasons.

R130, you're asking a lot from me! Lol, it was years ago so I don't remember the name, but I believe it was a statue of a shiny black material. I don't think it was black marble because I don't remember seeing any veins on it. It was solid black. But I think it was a Grecian soldier or some sort of warrior.

Seemed nicely endowed for a statue.

The Genius of Electricity by Evelyn Beatrice Longman 1916

Antonio Canova, Theseus and the Minotaur, 1781-3

Mercury as the Roman god of commerce, 1780, by Augustin Pajou

Achilles statue, Achilleion Palace, Corfu, Greece

[quote] that shepherd's bush is executed deliciously.

HOLLAND PARK!

The Barberini Faun looks like he just got a blow job. Supposedly, he was thrown down from Hadrian’s mausoleum (now Castel Sant’Angelo) during the Sack of Rome in 410, hopefully crushing an invading German or two. I love the statue. The whole Munich Antikensammlung is awesome.

R26, The Barberini Faun looks like he just got a blow job. Supposedly, he was thrown down from Hadrian’s mausoleum (now Castel Sant’Angelo) during the Sack of Rome in 410, hopefully crushing an invading German or two. I love the statue. The whole Munich Antikensammlung is awesome.

Braschi Antinous in Vatican Museums

[quote]Interesting R129 that the French would have hangups on nudity. You also just reinforce my desire to visit Italy for myriad penis and non-penis related reasons.

Just my uninformed opinion. I'm definitely not an art expert. All the Italian paintings of the Madonna and Child make me uncomfortable. I'm not interested in seeing Christ's willy.

Antikythera Ephebe

His eyes are spooky but the rest of him is nice.

La Marseillaise by François Rude, Arc de Triomphe

The young man forgot his clothes.

R140 - the baby Jesus peen in those renaissance paintings actually had religious significance - proving that Jesus was equally man and God.

David by Gian Lorenzo Bernini, 1623, Galleria Borghese.

Oh, I see, R143. Never thought of that. Thanks for the info.

The Rape of Proserpina by Bernini.

Renaissance and Baroque sculptors seemed to be into rape.

Headless bronze dude from the Greek and Roman collection of the Met.

Ludovisi Gaul

David would not have had a foreskin.

Very good point. I guess Michelangelo wanted to give Italians something they were familiar with.

Why wouldn’t David have been circumcised? When did that custom begin for Jews?

Fuck, I’m blonde.

She's become a kitschy cliche, but the Statue of Liberty is really quite beautiful. She's modeled after the (now nonexistent) Colossus of Rhodes, one of the Severn Wonders of the Ancient World.

[quote] Renaissance and Baroque sculptors seemed to be into rape.

It’s not RAPE rape. In the context of these sculptures, the word “rape” is used according to an archaic definition meaning “to seize and take away by force.“

Leda actually ENJOYED the time spent with the swan. So it was all ok.

Lol, R155.

I agree R153. The voluminous robes of the Statue of Liberty look rather dumpy but it is a very handsome head.

Quite masculine.

Virginia Woolf said the ideal of beauty was 'like a Greek statue' with a 'straight nose and straight brows'. I don't know if she was thinking of a particular Greek statue.

Does anyone here have any ideas on that subject??

[quote]It’s not RAPE rape. In the context of these sculptures, the word “rape” is used according to an archaic definition meaning “to seize and take away by force.“

Yes, but surely men were abducting women to have sex with them against their will. In the case of Proserpina, it was probably a metaphor for the changing of the seasons. In the case of rape of the Sabine women, it was because Roman men wanted to have wives and to produce children. It sounds like RAPE rape to me.

Theseus and the Minotaur by François-Léon Sicard, 1926. Archibald Fountain, Hyde Park, in central Sydney.

What happens when it's [bold]RAPE[/bold] RAPE rape?

or [italic]RAPE[/italic] [bold]RAPE[/bold] RAPE rape?

Excellent choice, R159. Thanks.

[quote]David would not have had a foreskin.

I was going to say that the statue of David represented the Republic of Florence but according to wikipedia, it was given that symbolic meaning after it was completed.

R159 The Archibald Fountain in Sydney has another nude. It is Apollo, I think, but his hips are disproportionately narrow that they render him ugly.

The irony is that this park has three male nudes with exposed penises while the government was at the same time banning works by Bertrand Russell, A.S. Neill and D.H. Lawrence.

Diomedes at the Louvre

Quite the looker.

I saw David when I was on vacation years ago; he's much taller than you think he will be. Also, his penis is rather small for his height.

Sculpture by Amandus Adamson, 1903. Eliseyev Emporium, St Petersburg, Russia

These statuesque statues are superb.

If I went to the Louvre I'd be hard pressed to restrain myself from clutching their thighs and caressing their smooth buttocks.

The Spirit of Justice is so hot, Ashcroft put her in a burqa because he hated being photographed in front of her big tits.

R157, I like the draping, it's beautifully rendered.

[quote]I saw David when I was on vacation years ago; he's much taller than you think he will be. Also, his penis is rather small for his height.

Perhaps Renaissance sculptors were influenced by the Ancient Greek aesthetic described by R5.

Or maybe if the penis was too attention grabbing, viewers would question the sexuality of the artist.

Also R157, you're referring to Wolfe's Jacob's Room. Check this out:

One thing to remember about David: he's an adolescent (16 in the Bible), so not fully "grown." A great example of Michaelangelo's genius is the size of his hands and feet, showing him to still be in an awkward stage (as awkward as a boy that ripped can be).

Dear R173, thank you so much! I remember Virginia Woolf saying SOMEWHERE in her letters, diaries, novels and essays —I've read 75% of them— how she venerated 'the Greek look'.

And I know that people at that time (post-Charles Darwin) were talking about the 'science' of Phrenology and Physiognomy and how it influenced character. And I was trying to remember how the intellectual, unsensous, Virginia Woolf could justify saying that a beautiful face endowed one with a beautiful mind.

I cannot believe that none of you queens have suggested this Queen's statue. Where is your solidarity?

Nah, this thread is about nude male statues, R176.

Rome, Italy: Monument of Vittorio Emanuele II - The Vittoriano - sculpture 'La Forza', by Augusto Rivalta

Ooh lovely, R178. Thanks.

Robert Graham (American sculptor, 1938-2008): Male athlete - part of Olympic Gateway (1984), Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum

Hercules and Cacus by Baccio Bandinelli, Piazza della Signoria, Florence.

Takashi Murakami, My Lonesome Cowboy

An Athlete Wrestling with a Python, Sir Frederic Leighton, 1877, Tate Britain

Progress statue, Victoria Memorial, London

Not nude but attractive.

R167 David is HUGE! I love the pics of him getting cleaned because you really get an idea of his size by comparison.

[R132]: I used to see AT&T’s “Golden Boy,” a.k.a. “Genius of Electricity, when it was ensconced in the lobby of the AT&T building in Manhattan, on Madison Ave. at 55th St. It was restored and moved there when AT&T built an ostentatious new headquarters uptown, nicknamed the “Chippendale” building.

That statue has always been glorious, and its presentation on Mad. Ave. seemed more like an ancient temple than a lobby. But its life since the 80’s has been as wayward as its parent company, and, after many wanderings, it now resides in Dallas.

Google “AT&T’s Golden Boy Has Had a Tough Life...” for a more comprehensive chronicle of his travels.

There was a time in the U.S. when the classical served the commercial, and some great art was made, much of it by women, particularly sculptors.

Statue of DL favorite Melania"

Mercury on the GCT clock

Why no body hair at all?

R184 They don't have to be nude to be hot. "Manufacture", also from the Victoria Memorial, by Sir Thomas Brock, 1911

That's ^ a marvelous modern work but the Graham at r180 and the progress statue at r184 don't hold a candle to the classical ones. It seems stylization is the recourse for mediocrity. And forget the kitschy Leighton at r183.

Miss Lindz illustration

9 Andrássy Avenue, Budapest, Hungary

This might be Cacus from the Hercules and Cacus statues in Florence mentioned earlier.

Hercules and Cacus

ATLAS (1937) Lee Lawrie and Rene Paul Chambellan, Rockefeller Center

Standing Schist Bodhisattva. Northwest Pakistan, Gandhara, 2nd-3rd century A.D.

R196 The Rockefeller Atlas is what I meant by "It seems stylization is the recourse for mediocrity. "

Boccioni's Unique Forms of Continuity in Space is stylized and I think it's brilliant.

Isn't that like saying all Impressionist paintings are mediocre because they don't meticulously copy reality?

R196 while it conveys strength and beauty is the Art Deco style (and its beautiful In its own way)< it does lack a pent up eroticism that has been noted on the prior pics. So, not mediocre, just different and sanitized for the great unwashed.

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Poland. Sculptures at Palace of Culture and Science in Warsaw.

Are there Greek sculpture of man to man sex and male love

There is the Warren Cup in the British Museum.

There must be paintings on Greek vases.

I doubt there are actual Greek sculptures of guys having intercourse.

Statue of the Tiber River with Romulus and Remus (Louvre)

R204 love that Peeping Thomas. So sodomy was probably more discreet then than we think.

I don't know much about homosexuality in Ancient Greece and Rome, R207. I believe it was more acceptable when the two males were not social equals, ie sex between master and slave, sex between an adult male and an underaged boy (ick). As fas as I know, sex between adult males who were both Greek or Roman citizens of equal social standing was more problematic. And being the passive partner was considered more shameful.

I've heard that sex between men and boys was mentioned many times in Greek literature so maybe it wasn't that stigmatized. I hope we're talking about boys 15 years or older, even though that is very creepy.

Farnese Bull - National Archaeological Museum in Naples

The sculpture represents the myth of Dirce first wife of Lykos, King of Thebes. She was tied to a wild bull by Amphion and Zethus, the sons of Antiope, who wanted to punish Dirce for the ill-treatment inflicted on their mother.

[quote] If I went to the Louvre I'd be hard pressed to restrain myself from clutching their thighs and caressing their smooth buttocks.

Years ago I visited the Palazzo Altemps museum in Rome, dedicated to nothing but Greek and Roman statues; one of the rooms was actually free of cameras and since I was one of the very few visitors around I spent a few minutes feeling the statues up. And yes, it felt fucking amazing to touch something so old and beautiful. I touched a couple of those cute cocklets too. But here's something that museums rarely tell you - the dicks on these ancient statues are rarely the original ones. Most of the statues were discovered "castrated" so many of the penises we see today were added only in the Renaissance era.

Anyway, here's my contribution to the thread: the hot fascist statue from Rome's EUR district.

The Hermes of Praxiteles excited me when I was a teen. Even though some parts are broken off, it was still exciting to look at it.

[quote]Are there Greek sculpture of man to man sex and male love

Of course, there are numerous statues of Antinous, Hadrian's lover, by himself.

R51 I agree that Perseus is a standout at the NY Met. However it's a replica of Canova's famed marble of Perseus in the Vatican

I didn't mean statues like of Antinous by himself. I meant of two or more men with a homosexual theme. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

No, I understood what you meant R214. I couldn't think of any examples.

This article from "The Advocate" might be worth looking at. I guess Nisus and Euryalus (though Virgil described their love as "pious"), Orestes and Pylades, and Harmodius and Aristogeiton fit the bill. Love all these ancient Greek or Roman names.

Probably no statues of men having sex. The ancients would rather look at Pan having sex with a female goat, like the statue that was unearthed in Herculaneum.

Great choice, R210. Thanks.

Haven't you people ever seen A Clockwork Orange before?

Check and mate, my tasteful friend.

Nah. That just looks like an oversized sex toy. No creativity there.

Cupid and Mars by Mathieu Kessels, Chatsworth House

Some classical statue at the Met.

R208 the boys you’re talking about being referenced are more “youths” who were any young male under 25 (I think?) who couldn’t yet grow a full beard or practice citizenship. so while this group certainly included teens under 18 (an age of insignificance at the time), it did not include pre-adolescents. Although I believe a slave child was fair game, and surely pedophilia was practiced then as it always has been, it was not something that was approved by society or lauded in poetry and epics. I’m a casual historian so I’m sure a real expert will chime in where I’m wrong, but that’s even better.

The Boxer

The Boxer reminds me of men like Phil Baroni ...

... and Sylain Potard

The Boxer's arse

Satyr as a leg of a bronze tripod found in Pompey.

Judging from the interviewer's reaction at R224, he must be straight. Funny how weird straight guys are about seeing another guy's dick. After all, when straight guys shower together, they act like seeing another guy naked is nothing.

Of course, if I was interviewing Baroni, I'd be staring the whole time his dick was out.

He takes steroids so he must have tiny nuts.

Fragmentary colossal head of a youth, Greek, 2nd century BC at the Met

Hermes Richelieu

Saint Michael the Archangel defeating Satan, bronze statue at St. Michael's Church, Hamburg, Germany

Great choice, R233.

Samson

Peterhof Palace, Russia

Love the dramatic Baroque statues. Thanks, R235.

Satyres en Atlante, Louvre

Not particularly hot. More humorous because they look like they're staring at their penises. Statues from 2nd century ancient Rome. I assume they were supporting something.

Hercules and Cerberus, Hofburg Palace, Vienna

Der Wager by Arno Breker

David by Antonin Mercié

Atlantes, Hermitage Museum, St. Petersburg

R222 wrote:

[quote]R208 the boys you’re talking about being referenced are more “youths” who were any young male under 25 (I think?) who couldn’t yet grow a full beard or practice citizenship. so while this group certainly included teens under 18 (an age of insignificance at the time), it did not include pre-adolescents. Although I believe a slave child was fair game, and surely pedophilia was practiced then as it always has been, it was not something that was approved by society or lauded in poetry and epics. I’m a casual historian so I’m sure a real expert will chime in where I’m wrong, but that’s even better

I read the article about homosexuality in Ancient Greece on wikipedia and the boys who had sexual relationships with adult men were commonly between the ages of 12 and 21. Yikes. The lower end of the age range is pretty disturbing. Maybe some of it was intercrural sex, ie. putting the penis between the partner's thighs, instead of actual penetration.

Pazuzu....

What about lady statue? Is very Best in my point of view.

Melania's never looked hotter.

Hercules and Achelous by François-Joseph Bosio. Louvre

One of the few excellent works by Arno Breker - "Berufung"

I do like that, R248.

Frederic Leighton, "The Sluggard."

Babraham Lincoln.

Abe looks a bit like a bored teenager from the 1960s.

Sexy armour from Ancient Greece.

Jason and the golden fleece by Bertel Thorvaldsen, at Thorvaldsen´s Museum, Copenhagen

Farnese Hercules - yes please.

The grace, the lines, the mushroom, the yeti pubes...

Nothing hotter than Pazuzu.

Four Captives, from the pedestal of the equestrian statue of Henry IV - by Pierre de Francheville, known as Pietro Francavilla

These four life-size bronze statues once stood in the four corners of the pedestal of the equestrian statue of King Henry IV, erected on the Pont-Neuf, Paris. Late Mannerist style.

Do large statues freak anyone else out? For some reason for a split second I think they might become animate. Probably those damned greek gods at Caesars Palace mall caused this...

Greek marble statue of Marcellus, nephew of Octavius

Agalmatophilia

Statue of Ares at Hadrian's Villa in Tivoli.

OK, we get it, Hadrian was a big ole ‘Mo!

Lol Hadrian and his tight young men

Meleager in the Vatican

Discobolus Vatican

Louvre

Douglas Tilden's monument to mechanical workers, San Francisco.

The Mechanics Monument, San Francisco.

Huh. Posting the same picture from different devices. Interesting.

Meleager Vatican

Eros, aka as Génie Borghèse at the Louvre

Torso of a Bodhisattva, ca 5th century. The Met

The Bodhisattva has a lot of obvious Greek influence (e.g. from the Meleager type at R266), but frustratingly is way less naked. Prude!

True but it's still erotic.

Oh dear.

La Proie - Émile Peynot

Imagine at the height of summer how scorching this aluminum statue of Andy Warhol must be, you would get at least 3rd degree burns from touching it at early afternoon.

Oh R280, you punster.

[quote]I doubt there are actual Greek sculptures of guys having intercourse.

In all probability there were, R205. They would have been at least as common as the depictions on ancient Greek pottery. But the statuary was far less likely to survive the centuries of Christian and Muslim iconoclasm. Even of the male statuary that has survived, nearly all of the penises have been knocked off of them. This wasn't accidental, but deliberate. And statuary actually depicting sex acts would have been hammered to pieces.

Statue of David moving (from the AI thread).