Do you think the world overreacted to Covid-19?

Yes. Way too much hysteria, way too little reason, proportion and perspective. It may help to keep in mind that billions of people in the third world remain uninfected, unquarantined with no appreciable rise in infection rates.

you write like the crisis has passed OP

Op = DJT

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Still under six hundred deaths in the US...out of population of 330,000,000. Yes, total overreaction.

Um, 800+ but yes it is a small number so far. When should we start to worry, R5?

Yes absolutely. I do not think though it is "just another flu". There had to be some midway between being more cautious about it than the regular flu, and the 11 that everyone is now at.

How many people who have the flu end up not being able to breathe?

Quite a few R8.

[quote]Overall, the CDC estimates that 12,000 and 61,000 deaths annually since 2010 can be blamed on the flu. Globally, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that the flu kills 290,000 to 650,000 people per year. [quote]

Posts like R7 are going to look extremely fucking stupid a week or two from now.

Are you in the NY area R7?

I ask because I can see why people in NYC would be freaking out left and right.

It isn't nearly as bad in Chicago, Denver, Dallas, Houston, Phoenix, etc. Might explain why some are so paranoid (and this board has - for a posting board - a heavy NY area presence), and others are more lax.

Guess we will see.

We already expect the flu every year. We can't handle thousands and thousands of additional hospitalizations all of a sudden.

Jeez and you think the death figures are accurate? Even though almost all countries in the world have a shortage of tests? Even though people dying in their own homes or in care homes are just being recorded as deaths from pneumonia?

FFS OP

God, you people are stupid. The reaction to COVID is because of how ridiculously infectious it is. Flu is nowhere near as infectious and kills millions every year. With a disease as infectious as COVID the death rate will be much higher than normal flu. Do you not see that?

Flu kills up to hundreds of thousands of people in the world, per year. This has the potential to kill millions to tens of millions. And then, maybe, keep hammering until we keep dying.

Not that it will. Responding with even basic measures reduces the threat by a lot. But not for the unlucky or especially the vulnerable. Our bodies aren't used to this thing.

Its not out of bounds that millions of Americans can die from this if the economic floodgates are opened. We will have to see how things go in the next month or two. I'm not saying expect that number, but just don't expect it to stay in the hundreds or even thousands.

Oh look, in just a day the reported deaths in USA went from eight hundred something to over eleven hundred.

This isn't something going away this year btw.

Feeling stupid yet, R7?

R7 is one of the reasons this virus is going to be far more widespread than it had to be. And yes, it's coming to the South and more rural areas, slowly but surely, and it's going to take many more months till things return to normal as a result.

No, but I'm not going to spray my pizza (or anything else I eat) with Lysol.

[quote]Still under six hundred deaths in the US...out of population of 330,000,000. Yes, total overreaction.

[quote]03/25/2020

This comment didn't age well, did it?

I don't think we've overreacted, but I do wonder how long it is going to be before people start to freak over self-quarantine. I am an essential employee and had to go to the supermarket. The supermarket was packed and the roads were jammed.

We can't live like prisoners in our own homes forever. This lockdown shit has to end!

I like staying at home.

I don't mind being home, but not having the option to do as I please is going to get old.

I think we have responded appropriately but I also think it is a flu. I appreciate the efforts that have been put forth by all parties to keep us safe.

Hard to say until things stabilize. (Sorry, maybe a wimpy answer, but it's true.)

I had a discretionary trip planned that I cancelled right away, before the lockdowns. I also rescheduled doctors' appointments before that was a policy.

I am surprised at my friends and family members who would only cancel their planned vacations until they were pretty much forced to cancel.

#CantFixStupid

So ...

I’m just going to say it knowing the FF’s I will get (and perhaps deserve).

Think about this you pretentious NY/CA bastards. I know a lot of the “flyover” posts are made in jest ... but a lot are not. You aren’t any better than anyone else.

I do not wish illness or death on anyone, but time (again) to accept that you are not the center of the universe.

FF away.

In this case, I will take overreaction in lieu of under.

r27, if we weren't important we wouldn't have the highest rates of infection. Na na na na na na.

[quote]but I also think it is a flu.

What the fuck does this mean? It’s a corona virus, not an influenza virus, and the infection and mortality rates are way above any recent flu season. It is AIRBORNE, HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS, and DEADLY.

Sorry for the all-caps shouting, but the ignorance here at this late date is alarming. Are any of you paying attention to the news on a daily basis?

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[quote]It is AIRBORNE, HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS

I'm a bit freaked out this morning. I was reading on another forum where this guy said he went out grocery shopping at Trader Joe's once a week It's the only place he has been since mid-March. He came down with the coronavirus a few days ago. If it's this contagious then we are all fucked.

I don’t think this is a big deal at all. What are we at, like 604 deaths now?

For those calling it 'just another flu', I ask you this .... in even the worst flu season, have you EVER read/heard about shortages of ventilators, respirators, masks, protective equipment? That answer is likely NO.

This is not just another flu.

R32, I assume he goes out to get his mail. He probably also has things delivered to his house, and either interacts with the delivery person or doesn’t take precautions like washing his hands after handling a delivery.

The only point I’m making is that most often in cases like this, when you really bore down and investigate you find out “well, I did run to the convenience store because I was out of milk. I forgot about that.” I’m not faulting him, but that happens far too often.

Cuomo said the other day that through the mitigation efforts we’ve shown we can control this virus. He went on to say (I’m paraphrasing) imagine if we couldn’t. Imagine if we sat in our houses and somehow the virus still hunted us down and got in. It doesn’t work that way we’ve found out.

They underreacted and continue to minimize the true gravity of the situation. It was way too slow and it’s going to bite them in the ass.

There's no treatment ,no vaccine and is highly contagious. So, no. It's not like the flu or an overreaction.

F&F and block R33. There are over 32,000 deaths from Covid 19 in the US as of 4/17. There are over 700,000 cases reported so far in the US. Both are the highest numbers of any country affected so far..

People like R33 are dangerous and need to be obliterated.

R38

You have no sarcasm meter do you? I made my comment so ridiculous that anyone with a brain would know I was actually making fun of the deniers. Apparently we found the one person without a brain.

This is not a joking matter you execrable scum bag. What the fuck is wrong with you? 32,000 dead and you're cracking jokes about it? Fuck off, psychopath.

Its not so much the numbers and percentage that get covid 19 and die..its the nature of the deaths. Ive read some accts from front line doctors and what it does to the body and how you die is truly dreadful. Additionally it appears even those that survive, some of them are being left with debilitating long lasting severe health impairments, like heart and lung problems.Some are suffering from some mental/brain impairments as well. This isnt just simply the flu for a lot of people. Its super vicious from what I can tell.

I think that unfortunately we have to overreact now because governments underreacted initially and are/were unprepared. If better testing, more medical supplies, and stricter controls on traveling had been implemented initially, we wouldn't be in the position we're in now. But I do feel like multiple months of quarantine with no true end in sight is going to do just as much damage as the virus would have done with less stringent measures because there's inevitably going to be a 2nd wave when the quarantines are lifted.

Look Mary R40

Get a grip you deranged cunt! Your shrieking at someone who agrees with you because they don’t deal with things the way you would is self-defeating. I’m on your side politically, but I think you belong in the booby hatch.

This one instance where I sort of have to agree with Trump. We cannot keep this lockdown situation going indefinitely. It's time to start opening things up. People need to be allowed to get on with their lives!

I love that R43 used the word booby-hatch!

R44, OK, but what he should have done is listen to the not fire the CDC in China back in 2019. They were there for a reason, and this pandemic is precisely one of the main reasons they were there, to prevent it! Many warnings were coming through the pipeline. Even in 2019. It’s a flat out lie that January of 2020 was the first time this became a topic of discussion. The earliest date that this was known, which records of this date have mysteriously disappeared from the internet, was October of 2020.

Why wasn’t this addressed immediately? Why are we all in a fucking shelter in place advisory, why are people running around the Unites States, acting like the virus has disappeared, not wearing masks, gloves, not practicing social distancing, and under the DELUSION that everyone and everything is A-OK? Because, R44, we have a president who is either deliberately attempting to ruin America as we knew it, or is so incredibly lazy and incompetent, that he chose to wipe out federal agencies in charge of preventing pandemics, and when the wolf finally showed up at the door, AS HE WAS WARNED REPEATEDLY THAT IT WOULD, be was not able to handle it correctly, because he has ZERO experience in government, public health safety, and truly doesn’t give a rat’s ass about any of it, even now, so much so, that he now without a doubt knows how serious this is, yet encouraged people on Twitter, to congregate in LARGE numbers in order to protest protocols placed because of his ineptitude, his hubris, his inability to take responsibility for his actions, and because he wants to win a second term. And he did this, knowing that he placed people’s lives at risk.

And now, we are fucked. Our economy is fucked, and reopening America will prove to infect hundreds of thousands more at minimum, and will cause more unnecessary deaths, because he allowed a situation to get to the point where there are no good solutions, no good answers, and no tests, ventilators, or PPE for healthcare workers, while hospitals are now starting to go bankrupt, and people are suffering economically, losing loved ones, hanging on by a thread literally for their lives, all because Donald Trump could not be bothered to take anything seriously, nor can his kiss ass sycophants who demure to his every whim, threats, bullshit, bluster, and circus clown showmanship.

Our economy is ranked and people are dead and still dying because the President of the United States could not do his job and protect our national security.

He fucked up and he had fucked us profoundly.

We have so much more to be concerned about. Getting back to our previous way of life is just not going to happen the way people believe it is.