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My friend is STILL offering "services"

I have a friend in the sex industry who is still advertising and taking appointments, despite our city stopping all "non-essential" businesses from operating.

I doubt I'll get a massage or my hair done in months. Yet my friend thinks he has a right to continue offering his sexual services, since he is self employed and apparently doesn't want to use all his savings up.

How is this allowed? I'm debating telling him to grow up but don't want to overreact and lose another friendship.

by Anonymousreply 60March 26, 2020 7:22 AM

It isn’t “allowed.” His business is illegal to begin with.

by Anonymousreply 1March 23, 2020 7:36 PM

Dealers keep dealing

Thieves keep thieving

Whores keep whoring

Junkies keep scoring

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by Anonymousreply 2March 23, 2020 7:38 PM

R1 We live in Canada where it isn't illegal.

by Anonymousreply 3March 23, 2020 7:39 PM

Prostitution is legal throughout Canada?

by Anonymousreply 4March 23, 2020 7:41 PM

Exactly why do you need to be friends with this person when he's a total idiot? He's your last friend? Then avoid him physically at all costs or keep a social distance of 20 feet.

by Anonymousreply 5March 23, 2020 7:41 PM

I suppose he could argue his services are essential.

by Anonymousreply 6March 23, 2020 7:42 PM

R4 It's illegal to buy sexual services in Canada but not to sell services. So a John can be charged for it but an escort can't be.

by Anonymousreply 7March 23, 2020 7:43 PM

You might want to gently suggest that it's really, really not a good idea to be doing in person sex work at this time and that he might want to seriously consider switching to doing a webcam or something. Ultimately it's his choice but I don't think it would be out of line to not want a friend to die or become a vector of fatal disease, and to tell him so.

by Anonymousreply 8March 23, 2020 7:51 PM

They're both wearing masks, eh?

by Anonymousreply 9March 23, 2020 7:59 PM

R8 with a measured reaction and reasonable advice. Your friend might not fully comprehend the risks. Plus it's understandable to want to keep an income and many are in the same situation (in other industries too). Ultimately those who do not have financial stability are stuck between a rock and a hard place without federal economic support to weather the isolation period.

For you personally, definitely keep socially distanced from your friend because he is much more likely than others to be a carrier.

by Anonymousreply 10March 23, 2020 8:04 PM

Is he hot, OP? Is he hung? That's all that counts.

by Anonymousreply 11March 23, 2020 8:11 PM

I suppose I would do the same in his shoes. I don't see how it's fair of us to ask some people to sacrifice their livelihoods while others get to keep theirs.

by Anonymousreply 12March 23, 2020 8:13 PM

Ill need pics to determine whether his "services" are essential or not

by Anonymousreply 13March 23, 2020 8:24 PM

Mind your own business undress you want to pay his bills. He and his clients are all adults.

by Anonymousreply 14March 23, 2020 8:35 PM

His clients who are "all adults" could infect others. The pandemic so far indicates that every person who is infected infects two other people.

Which wouldn't be very adult of them.

by Anonymousreply 15March 23, 2020 9:06 PM

[quote] Mind your own business undress you want to pay his bills.

Vairst Letty-meta mash up. Awesome.

by Anonymousreply 16March 23, 2020 9:19 PM

Allowed? It's not.

It's also not ethical. I know we're talking about a sex worker, but showing a basic interest in other people by not spreading the virus would be nice.

by Anonymousreply 17March 23, 2020 9:32 PM

Do you still Want to be friends with someone this stupid and insensitive??

by Anonymousreply 18March 23, 2020 9:36 PM

Why the shock and outrage? The guy sells sex for a living. This isn’t the kind of career choice made my normal people? If he can deaden himself to sell his body a lack of empathy or concern shouldn’t cause your jaw to drop.

by Anonymousreply 19March 23, 2020 9:42 PM

Does he OD or take pics? Asking for a friend.

by Anonymousreply 20March 23, 2020 9:42 PM

Your friend is a whore, darling.

by Anonymousreply 21March 23, 2020 9:50 PM

I have a second adult-content-only Twitter account to follow several porn guys, and it is odd. Some are wise and promoting their pandemic porn solos, or promoting their older OnlyFans content. Others are just fucking and sucking away like in the pre-AIDS days.

by Anonymousreply 22March 23, 2020 9:57 PM

Whores have bills to pay too you know!

by Anonymousreply 23March 23, 2020 10:06 PM

Ve have beels to pay tooo!!

by Anonymousreply 24March 23, 2020 11:22 PM

I've seen professional/licensed/legit massage therapists say "But I have rent to pay!" when told to shut down this week. How people can be so selfish is astounding.

by Anonymousreply 25March 24, 2020 6:32 AM

These eldergays in caftans and earrings are not about to start fucking themselves, you know!

by Anonymousreply 26March 24, 2020 6:43 AM

It's not that big of a deal. There are PLENTY of people not abiding by the requirements of social distancing. Plenty of dudes are still hooking up. Not all, but some. Anyone who sleeps with him knows what they are doing. It's not all that different than someone being slutty or spending the week hooking up with a few fuck buddies.

by Anonymousreply 27March 24, 2020 6:55 AM

But it IS different. Passing this virus around either to his clients or to other people he encounters on his way to/from his clients will not help the situation. This isn't a cold or a minor STD. It's a serious virus for which there is no treatment and for many people it's fatal.

by Anonymousreply 28March 24, 2020 8:37 PM

For countries that regulate sex work rather than criminalizing and stigmatizing it, I'm sure this is a problem much easier to solve.

by Anonymousreply 29March 24, 2020 9:01 PM

Don't know how many escorts are making indoor calls at least in Manhattan as many buildings are discouraging non-residents and non-essential persons from entering. Things like deliveries must be met downstairs at lobby/vestibule and or residents being asked to curtail entertaining/social visits.

Some random guy showing up late or overnight saying he is a "masseur" or whatever is likely to raise flags.

by Anonymousreply 30March 24, 2020 9:03 PM

Yes. But is your hooker friend cut or uncut?

by Anonymousreply 31March 24, 2020 9:38 PM

Can he do it virtually?

Why are you so concerned about maintaining a friendship with a prostitute?

by Anonymousreply 32March 24, 2020 9:43 PM

R29 yes by simply making it illegal.

by Anonymousreply 33March 24, 2020 11:21 PM

I wanna have a hot male prostitute friend. I might get a friend discount occasionally

by Anonymousreply 34March 24, 2020 11:51 PM

[quote]They're both wearing masks, eh?

That didn't work out so well for Chris Burrous when he tried it with a mask.

by Anonymousreply 35March 25, 2020 12:04 AM

What's a girl supposed to do when she just came out of the closet?

by Anonymousreply 36March 25, 2020 12:12 AM

this friend is useless and will never be your friend because whores are in it all for themselves...they don't have friends

by Anonymousreply 37March 25, 2020 12:22 AM

Is he hot? Link please. If he's hot I might hire him.

Christ, y'all are a bunch of pansy ass grandmas.

by Anonymousreply 38March 25, 2020 12:33 AM

In the case of Coranavirus, its not a sexually-transmitted disease - so his risk factor is the same as anyone in any other form of service, even food distribution. He's not putting a group of people as risk by hosting an orgy in a supermarket. If both his client and he know what's at stake and aren't putting anyone else at risk, I say it's up to each of them. The client could just as easily hook up with someone on Grindr - (where plenty of profiles are still up and running).

I see no issue with it.

by Anonymousreply 39March 25, 2020 3:27 AM

How about the onward chain, r39? The next John. The next person the mystery shopper gets close with. And so on and so on and...

by Anonymousreply 40March 25, 2020 3:49 AM

You can't be six feet away from your johns.

by Anonymousreply 41March 25, 2020 4:27 AM

R25

You are seriously deluded if you think every self employed person in NYC or elsewhere is shutting themselves up and their business down during this crisis.

Those who have retail store fronts are fucked; but many dog walkers, cleaners, and a whole host of others are going about their work (if they can book any of it) best they can . People who don't work for someone else aren't covered by extended or any unemployment bennies, and unless have a huge emergency stash have bills that want paying.

First of April is next week and plenty of people barely made March's rent (if they did at all), and are staring down a gun barrel. No, they cannot be evicted (at least in New York anyway) for several months; but you try coming up with four or more thousand dollars at once.

Yes, it may seem heartless, stupid or whatever but people are doing what they have to do; especially since it is very unwise to rely upon any sort of local or government help as a certainty.

by Anonymousreply 42March 25, 2020 4:42 AM

R42 I agree with you. People supporting themselves and/or families, what are they going to do? This thing will not stop spreading, though, which is scarier.

by Anonymousreply 43March 25, 2020 4:47 AM

I know a young female who does this for a living and she's still seeing guys in her apartment.

by Anonymousreply 44March 25, 2020 4:51 AM

As stated previously know of several barbers and hairdressers whose shops have been ordered close that have gone mobile. They just don't have a choice, none are wealthy enough to sit home and rid this thing out for one or more weeks with no income.

Remember at least in NYC for many people early through late spring is the last period they really can earn good money. Soon as school lets out/Memorial Day weekend and summer season begins people start clearing out. People rely on making bank now to carry themselves over slow summer period when business could be down.

by Anonymousreply 45March 25, 2020 4:53 AM

Let's be real he's a whore darling so he's not a real person. I wouldn't be concerned about his safety or well-being hah. The actual real people who uses his services are what I'd be concerned about!

by Anonymousreply 46March 25, 2020 12:53 PM

They’re as bad as him.

by Anonymousreply 47March 25, 2020 12:54 PM

I think sex should be illegal during this time. Put to death or forced isloation if caught.

by Anonymousreply 48March 25, 2020 12:55 PM

From the San Jose Mercury News

"The San Mateo County health officer lambasted those flouting shelter-in-place rules Monday, writing in an unrestrained letter that residents “spit in our face” by leaving home unnecessarily.

At times bordering on the Shakespearean, Dr. Scott Morrow gave a dire warning on the county’s health website Monday: By leaving home, you will increase the Bay Area’s COVID-19 fatalities.

“If you decide you want to do your own thing and follow your own rules, you disrespect us all. You spit in our face, and you will contribute to the death toll that will follow,” Morrow wrote. “For those of you who say: ‘nobody tells me what to do,’ now is a time to make an exception. You can go back to being ornery in the future.”

"“For those of you who say: ‘nobody tells me what to do,’ now is a time to make an exception. [italic]You can go back to being an asshole in the future.”[/italic]

by Anonymousreply 49March 25, 2020 1:38 PM

Going around city past few days it really does seem as if many of those remaining in Manhattan are treating this whole thing as some sort of extended holiday.

Last night was rather nice and people were out and about,including one couple saw strolling down First avenue pushing a baby carriage as if they didn't have a care in world.

by Anonymousreply 50March 25, 2020 1:48 PM

R45 - That doesn't sound right. NYC doesn't empty in the summer - particularly with all the tourists. There aren't THAT many people who go to their second homes for the entire summer.

Now, tourist numbers will definitely be down - as they will be everywhere. But I've never heard that things drop that much in the service sector during the summer - it usually increases.

by Anonymousreply 51March 25, 2020 3:48 PM

Is your friend based in Vancouver? Maybe I could fly him out someplace safer in my private plane.

by Anonymousreply 52March 25, 2020 3:54 PM

Tell him to get a hazmat suit & mask- he'll attract the freak crowd AND be "protected" (even though he's likely already got it).

by Anonymousreply 53March 25, 2020 5:32 PM

R51

You've obviously not been to UES, much of UWS, and many parts of Manhattan at least during summer months.

Much of Manhattan empties out of wives and children who are off in the country or camp (the latter), at least for June then July. The husbands are in town during week and go out to country on weekends. But August everyone is gone except those who either don't have PTO or whatever.

My point is that large volume of prostitution clients are normally local men; and while tourists can (and do ) make up a good part of business it isn't same as regular steady clients.

Paris, and many European capital cities are same along with a good number of American urban areas; the wealthy and anyone else who can decamp for country or otherwise take vacations during summer, especially August. Well at least first half of that month anyway; by middle or late August people return to prepare for moving in day (college), or because private schools will soon open.

by Anonymousreply 54March 25, 2020 10:41 PM

I wonder if these guys could provide a different kind of "service" during the crisis -- like coming over and just stripping and jacking off from a distance (i.e., >6 ft.) Would people pay for that?

by Anonymousreply 55March 26, 2020 2:15 AM

R55

From what have heard that is pretty much how some hustlers and trans operate already. *LOL*

You'd think for shelling out $$$/per hour you'd get some sort of intimacy, but unless hustler or trans in into you that often just doesn't happen. There are (or were) plenty of review sites that confirmed this happening. It gave "clients" a way to vent and get some of their own back at least.

by Anonymousreply 56March 26, 2020 3:56 AM

I hired a guy tonight in NYC. When I asked his rate he gave me a surprisingly low number (I guess business must be really bad).

Had a great time and no signs of a cough during our session. It’s a client’s market!

by Anonymousreply 57March 26, 2020 4:05 AM

R57, can we have your stuff?

by Anonymousreply 58March 26, 2020 4:39 AM

What if he or his clients gets an std? Going to a medical facility is dangerous at this time.

by Anonymousreply 59March 26, 2020 5:18 AM

Whores are part of the black market.

There are no taxes filed for relief or bailouts and no Unemployment insurance.

by Anonymousreply 60March 26, 2020 7:22 AM
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