Is the M and G feud real or just a datalounge joke?

It's a joke. In real life they're very fond of one another and have a lot of respect for one another.

r1's byline suggests he is joking, but actually he's correct. They got to know each other well when they did "House of the Spirits" together, and by all accounts they really do like each other and respect each other's work.

I don't think they're especially close though. I don't know who Glenn's close friends are who are celebrities. For some reason, Meryl's closest celebrity friends are mostly comediennes: Catherine O'Hara, Tracey Ullman.

The M-G jokes have to do with two things: 1) they're roughly the same age, and a bit odd looking, and though they're both extremely talented Meyrl has won up winning all the awards, and Glenn hasn't. As that trend continues, the joke continues. 2) Dataloungers, like many gay men, love the idea of someone being so perfect they cannot possibly be criticized: think of "flawlessness" in drag ball culture. And, as in drag ball culture, the idea then is that someone flawless would just be bitchy and passive-aggressive towards someone who does not measure up to them but tries.

So the idea is that Meryl is flawless, and is always bitchily sniping at Glenn for failing to measure up. it has nothing to do with the women's real relationship.

[quote] and though they're both extremely talented Meyrl has won up winning all the awards,

That should read, "and though they're both extremely talented, Meryl has wound up winning all the awards,"

Sorry.

@ r1 Listen Miss Thing. My client does not do B grade. Stop it. We work with real leading men not trans or whatever G is. How many times do we have to tell you this. Go away.

M and G? Are these people in the witness protection program? Write their fucking names

Women who do NOT particularly love Meryl:

Sigourney Weaver (not since Yale...)

Susan Sarandon

Rose McGowan

I don't think she and Helen Mirren really dig each other, but I'm not sure.

Who else?

I wonder if Bette Midler is a Meryl fan. I doubt it, since she's not really close to other actresses/performers, particularly those her age.

Helen Lawson used extremely salty language to describe M's "booze and dope fueled" performances.

M actually does feud with some of her costars.

Of course they all hate M. She’s head and shoulders above them all. Midler? Don’t. Make. Me. laugh. M is the real Divine Miss M.

Just started watching "Damages." YIKES that woman is scary.

I should say that character is scary.

Please not this tired shit again. Please.

I agree.

I thought the M -G feud was Madonna and Gaga.

[quote] M and G? Are these people in the witness protection program? Write their fucking names

Why, hon? Do you have great trouble remembering their names otherwise, even on a thread specifically about them?

[quote] Sigourney Weaver (not since Yale...)

What is the story here, never heard that. Meryl was 1 year behind Sigs at Yale, my old Bf was in Sigs class.

Let me tell ya, kid, that Meryl and Glenn are 2 of the worst bitches in Hollywood. Can't act worth a damn - and I should know because I'm the dame that wrote the book on acting!

From everything I've heard, Streep is not a difficult person to get along with. The only time she's had trouble with co-stars has been when they've tried to boss her around or have behaved extremely badly to her in order to justify their own performance. Dustin Hoffman unexpectedly slapped her when he was doing his Method bullshit during "Kramer vs. Kramer," and she hated that and complained. And Mandy Patinkin on the first day of shooting for "Heartburn" kept giving her extensive notes on how she should play their scenes, and Mike Nichols was horrified and fired him after the first day and replaced him with jack Nicholson. (Keep in mind that Streep was already considered the best actor of her generation by this time and a certified star--this was post-"Sophie's Choice"--while Patinkin was not a big movie star by any means, and he was as always being a pain in the ass to establish dominance on the set over her.)

So the only people I've ever heard her have trouble working with are Hoffman and Patinkin, who are famously loathed by many people in Hollywood and in theater., and who have both admitted they are insecure and difficult to work with.

M deserves to be slapped. Viciously.

G isn't attractive to me in the least but can sell a sexy character. M has the sex appeal of a bathtub ring but is prettier than G.

R21 Oh, G has been selling it alright. You don’t want to know. Well, she wouldn’t want you to know.

Tom Cruise gave her notes on Lions for Lambs also. Allegedly, she was not thrilled.

Is this notes thing mansplaining in the acting world? Have some actresses been know to do it to actors? I can totally see M giving notes to G.

I saw M on that PBS ancestor roots show which that insufferable activist host. He tried to shame/surprise M by announcing 200 yrs ago her family …..OWNED SLAVES! Unfazed and seemingly ready for an ambush she replied, well that was just the times back then. Turning the ancestral log page to another GGGGG Aunt. I feel G would have crumbled.

My ancestors WERE slaves.

Please. Do I have a "feud" with a gnat just because it is capable of being irritating? All sorts of creatures can be irritating, if one notices them.

How sad you would think so little of me and exaggerate the scale of something so small.

Maybe they could play Hedda Hopper and Louella Parsons in a remake of Malice in Wonderland. Probably too old now, though.

[quote] “I have never been close friends with Meryl. We have huge respect for each other, but I have only done one thing with her, The House Of The Spirits.”

[quote]"Glenn (Close) is my friend so I know she`ll forgive me..."

R19, Streep - and Tracey Ullman - didn't get along with Charles Dance on the set of Plenty.

M & G are not friends but there is no feud between or anomisty between them. They have worked together and are friendly with each other when the happen to cross paths but thats it. Not friends - no hate.

[quote] Meryl (Streep) gave me this gift that made me sob in my (Sunset Boulevard) dressing room. Thank God I had already fixed my makeup, it would have set me back 30 minutes. She had this beautiful pair of pearl earrings that I first noticed on her when we first met and I thought they were so beautiful. A week later, a package arrived at the stage door and in it were these beautiful antique pearls with a note saying, 'They're battered but beautiful, just like the best of us.' It was the greatest thing anyone has ever given me.

- Glenn Close

Ungrateful. Sore. Loser.

G has 3 Tonys, M has 3 Oscars. G is more consistent and relies less on accents and mannerisms than M does. Neither really is a singer, though they've been cast in musicals.

R34, both are frumpy old hags.

Originally the M and G thing was a little more two sided, with M making fun of G for television and G making fun of M for wearing things that look like someone's kicky little summer cottage lace curtains.

R32, did you mean ‘animosity’?

I love them both - both are incredible in roles they play

R2 is correct, and well put.

I never heard Tom Cruise gave her notes on "Lions For Lambs" which is incidentally the lowest rated movie she's made, according to RT.

M probably laughed when Olivia Colman took the Oscar instead of G last year. I'm sure she broke out an expensive wine and laughed into the early morning drunk on the wine.

R40 Meryl doesn't give a shit about The Oscars when she isn't nominated. When she had to attend (with no nomination) in 2013 to present Best Actor she couldn't wait to get off the stage. In fact I think she already had the envelope open by the time the clips of the nominees finished and just blurted out the winner.

Point is, she was likely fast asleep when Olivia won.

Glenn still shouldn't have worn that dress though :(

R2 is so wise, so detached and so well-informed.

I hope when she pees the holy water of her urine helps soothe the fiery discomfort of her herpes.

I think M makes an extra effort to connect with her co-stars and she never disparages her female co-stars in public. I think the closest she’s come to that was Jane Alexander but that in response to Jane talking smack about her.

She’s still friendly with Shirley MacLaine, for fuck’s sake.

R43, she didn’t like Roseanne, did she?

She never spoke negatively about Roseanne in public. Privately on the other hand...

What did Jane say about her, r43?

R45 Funny story. I worked for Tracey Ullman's agent at that time. Tracey was offered She-Devil and wanted to work with her close friend, Meryl, - BUT - Meryl turned down the lead in a movie called I Love You To Death because she was already committed to She-Devil. Meryl strongly recommended to Director, Lawrence Kasden, that he should go with Tracey Ullman for the lead. So it's Meryl's own fault she had to work opposite Roseanne. Also, Meryl's agent at the time was Sam Cohn, who also represented She-Devil Director, Susan Seidleman. He really pushed Meryl to do She-Devil for that reason....

On a side note, I Love You To Death had a really great script. It should have made Ullman a star. What ended up on screen was very mediocre, (and not at all Ullman's fault).

But at least we got to see Kevin Kline's butt in it!