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Kidney Stone!

Damned if there isn't one causing me extreme pain right now. Obviously I don't want to go to the ER if I can manage it at home. Is there something I can do to alleviate the pain a bit or help it pass? I've never had an issue passing before (this is my third time) and have yet to see a doctor.

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Even snarky answers that would make me laugh, even though that hurts. TIA

by Anonymousreply 28March 11, 2021 5:13 AM

No, you can’t manage a kidney stone at home unless you’ve got morphine

by Anonymousreply 1March 22, 2020 9:14 PM

Squeeze 1-2 lemons in water- stay hydrated. The only home OTC meds would be NSAIDS (I like Aleve) or Tylenol. BTW you should probably start squeezing splash of lemon in your water indefinitely if you are a stone-former.

Please don't have a high threshold for seeking help, any stone bigger than 5 millimeters may cause kidney and ureter blockage and kidney infection--- this would be bad news. Stones >5 mm are easily managed with stents or breaking up the stone into smaller pieces by a urologist.

Good luck.

by Anonymousreply 2March 22, 2020 9:16 PM

Drink gallons of water and I hope you can flush it out.

by Anonymousreply 3March 22, 2020 9:20 PM

Yup, water water water, just squeeze the lemon for good measure. Tylenol and/or Aleve (1,000 mg tylenol, 220 aleve). A Heating Pad may also help placed behind your back on the side it hurts.

by Anonymousreply 4March 22, 2020 9:33 PM

I suffer from them.

Keep drinking water. Constantly.

Sit in a hot bath.

Hot compresses on the area of pain really help. Soak a cloth in very hot water and wring it out and place it over the area. It's even better if you can grate fresh ginger in the the water.

by Anonymousreply 5March 22, 2020 9:37 PM

Drink lots and lots of water. Also, once it has passed, to try to avoid getting another, every time you pee, drink water if you see it turning darker yellow. That's a sign that you need to have more liquids (especially water) in you; the clearer your pee, the better. Also,while you have them, I was told drinking cranberry juice can also help. Sometimes sitting or lying a certain way can somehow be less painful for a while. Good luck, as they are painful as hell. Women who have had them say they are worse than going through labor.

by Anonymousreply 6March 22, 2020 9:46 PM

drink tons of water with something that has citric acid in it. I put true lemon/lime/orange/grapefruit in all my water or iced tea. If you eat ant green veggie, eat something citrus in the salad dressing( or calcium so creamy dressing) as well to help stop the formation of the most common type of stone

by Anonymousreply 7March 22, 2020 10:11 PM

[quote] Tylenol and/or Aleve (1,000 mg tylenol, 220 aleve).

You can take an 825 mg loading dose of Aleve. Eat food with it, take a Pepcid if you've got one. No lemon

by Anonymousreply 8March 22, 2020 10:47 PM

The pain of passing a stone is worse than childbirth.

by Anonymousreply 9March 23, 2020 4:32 AM

Thank you, DL, I'm grateful for the help. I've used basil tea and tylenor, but still experiencing a low level of pain at the moment. Tylenol works well for me at low doses, so I can manage ok as it gets worse by increasing that or using the Aleve. Basil is supposed to help break up larger stones.

When I originally posted, the pain was getting up there after dissapating. Thanks, everyone, for reminding me that this can cause damage.

Seems to be better, but anyone who's had these things knows that it comes and goes as the stone moves. I'll try these suggestions, but if nothing works as I'm now going into day 3, I'll go to the ER. Life seems to be getting complicated by a lot of 'little' things these days.

by Anonymousreply 10March 23, 2020 1:47 PM

Don’t you have a primary care doctor or a urologist who can prescribe something?

by Anonymousreply 11March 23, 2020 2:12 PM

I had a kidney stone that was stuck in the bend of my right ureter. It was the worst pain I've ever experienced and there is no way I could have managed it from home. If it gets really bad you'll have to go to hospital.

There are different types of stone, made from different substances. The ones you had before, do you know what type they were? There may be recommended supplements/foods you could consume to help the specific one you have (it's most likely to be the same type as your previous ones).

by Anonymousreply 12March 23, 2020 2:23 PM

I use a naturopath, R11, and though I'm not opposed to medications, I just prefer a doc' that doesn't look to pharmaceuticals first. He has referral privileges to an MD that will prescribe and I've used him before. I like to look at the source of the problem first, but any good system will calm down severe symptoms first.

He told me about the basil tea and I have a referral for a urological checkup - six months from now. Health care in America.

by Anonymousreply 13March 23, 2020 2:25 PM

Thanks, UK guy/R12. As this is the third time in the last year or so, I'm taking this pretty seriously and into the next step with a referral. I didn't manage to get anything the last time and I'll try again this time. It runs in the family, so I'm on target for this to happen. I believe it may be the calcium type as it was for granny, but I know enough to get a good workup.

IBS is also a factor, as my naturopath tells me. I've been having issues in only the last year, so I'm really looking forward to some answers.

by Anonymousreply 14March 23, 2020 2:31 PM

You can take 800 mg of ibuprofen four times a day. In the interim, you can take 1000 mg of acetaminophen three times a day.

Maximum doses of ibuprofen is 3200 mg per day and max dose of acetaminophen is 3000mg

DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL and take the max of acetaminophen. If you drink then cut back to twice daily

Acetaminophen and ibuprofen do not interact, so you can take them both. In fact if you have a bad toothache and go to the ER, that is what they give you.

The fact you've had stones more than twice means you have underlying health issues. You need to get those address or this will continue and will cause more serious problems later.

by Anonymousreply 15March 23, 2020 2:59 PM

Thanks, R15, I figured something has been off...it's a pretty painful signal. I wonder if I'm the only person who uses this crazy rule of threes. I generally give things up to a third time bothering me before I do something decisive.

ie: the neighbors had to get rowdy 3x before I called the police, the restaurant had to muck up an order 3x before I went elsewhere, etc.

by Anonymousreply 16March 23, 2020 7:30 PM

I just had a kidney stone pulverized by sound waves.

by Anonymousreply 17March 23, 2020 7:33 PM

Ultrasound or the tank?

by Anonymousreply 18March 23, 2020 7:35 PM

Good luck, OP. They truly suck.

R17, glad to hear that worked for you. It did jack for me and I wound having to have the stone surgically removed with a stent to follow.

by Anonymousreply 19March 23, 2020 7:37 PM

Extracorporeal shockwave therapy

by Anonymousreply 20March 23, 2020 7:40 PM

R15 curious why do you say that? I have chronic kidney stones pretty much (the most common calcium kind) and I’ve asked several doctors if it’s a sign of anything to be worried about health wise and they’ve all categorically said no — it’s a pain (literally) but beyond that nothing to worry about.

I usually don’t feel them unless I’m passing one or it’s in a place that causes trouble. I’ve gotten kidney infections twice and couldn’t stop throwing up but both of those were over ten years ago. Another time I was peeing blood but again that was back in 2008.

Again no real troubles since then — if I’m about to pass part of one I usually will feel it though. Although truth be told I often can’t tell the whether I’m getting kidney stone back Pain or premenstrual back pain — the pressure points are in the same place.

by Anonymousreply 21March 23, 2020 8:10 PM

Like R12 said, there are different types of stones and your doctor can give you recommendations on what types of food to avoid if you can collect them and get them tested. Cranberry juice, tea, and certain vegetables like kale, broccoli, and cauliflower could actually encourage stone formation since they have a lot of oxalates and form a solid precipitate (stone) with calcium.

I've had a couple and got a little strainer from the ER to try to catch them. Good luck with the pain; heating pad, hot bath/shower, and Tylenol should make a dent. And keep drinking water so your pee stays clear or light yellow, which will help it pass and prevent them from coming back.

by Anonymousreply 22March 23, 2020 9:41 PM

Two tablespoons of apple cider vinegar in an eight ounce glass of water.

by Anonymousreply 23March 23, 2020 9:50 PM

Eat some cooked asparagus. It helped me. Lots of water like everyone is posting.

by Anonymousreply 24March 23, 2020 10:26 PM

The the person who said no lemon-- YES lemon. I am a urologist . Citrate binds to calcium to prevent stone formation. I tell all my stone-forming patients to make it a habit to squeeze fresh lemon in their water daily.

Also, the combination of Tylenol (1000) and Aleve (220) blocks prostaglandin two-fold. Can't take a loading dose with Acetaminophen. Oh and no need for an antacid for short-term NSAID use.

by Anonymousreply 25March 24, 2020 12:05 AM

Baseball bat therapy.

Surefire.

by Anonymousreply 26March 24, 2020 12:16 AM

I’ve had a pain and discomfort in my abdomen for six weeks almost every day. Most of it is pressure about 2 to 3 inches in from my right hip bone. But also my stomach has been making making a lot of noise. I had a CAT scan a week ago and just got the results today and the doctor said I “might” have a 2 mm stone in my right kidney. Is that the general area other people have had pain in when it was a kidney stone? I’ve never had one and I’m not sure that that is truly the cause of my stomach issues. I started eating healthier and more vegetables, lentil soup, and nuts around six weeks ago.

by Anonymousreply 27March 11, 2021 3:37 AM

Save the stone OP. A coworker told me her urologist analyzed the stone and found out what she was eating that caused the stone, she cut out spinach etc.,and after years she no longer formed stones.

by Anonymousreply 28March 11, 2021 5:13 AM
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