Antibiotics? Lots of sleep? Puncture a lung with a hypodermic needle and suck the fluid out?
WHAT do you do?
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Antibiotics? Lots of sleep? Puncture a lung with a hypodermic needle and suck the fluid out?
WHAT do you do?
by Anonymous | reply 75 | March 23, 2020 10:38 PM |
Nothing. Stay home.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | March 22, 2020 2:23 AM |
Antibiotics don’t work on viruses.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | March 22, 2020 2:25 AM |
Gee nobody has any information about this, OP. And the libraries are closed. And no way to find out, chatting at the water cooler. Oh what to do, what to do.
by Anonymous | reply 3 | March 22, 2020 2:26 AM |
Lol @ R3! And why ask us of all people? Couldn’t you go to the CDC website or something?
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 22, 2020 2:27 AM |
Yes, but don't antibiotics help take care of the regular bacteria your body would fight anyway. So your immune system can focus?
by Anonymous | reply 5 | March 22, 2020 2:28 AM |
See hon, there's no cure. You just hope you get better. The doctors just shrug their shoulders and hope you're body fights it off. And if your body doesn't fight it off, or perhaps goes into overdrive trying to fight it and eventually somehow goes haywire and starts attacking healthy cells, your lungs fill up with fluid and you can't breathe and then you die.
So just cross your fingers and hope you're one of the lucky ones.
by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 22, 2020 2:31 AM |
OP are you Rip Van Winkle? A nice brown bear, just waking up from a winter nap?
by Anonymous | reply 7 | March 22, 2020 2:33 AM |
Rob van fuckle
by Anonymous | reply 8 | March 22, 2020 2:36 AM |
You take Nyquil and sleep. You should also drink A LOT of water. Like 10 full glasses per day. You need that to keep it from going into your lungs. You should also let people know who you have had contact with. And wait it out.
I had bronchitis (might have been covid, not sure) last month. It lasted about 3 weeks. I never went to the doctor. I got better with time and rest.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | March 22, 2020 2:36 AM |
[quote]A LOT of water. Like 10 full glasses per day. You need that to keep it from going into your lungs.
How does drinking a lot of water keep it out of your lungs?
by Anonymous | reply 10 | March 22, 2020 2:38 AM |
80% of CV patients get better with nothing but the usual rest, fluids and symptomatic relief. 20% become critically ill requiring ICU care and life support. There is no medication that cures CV. They just intubate you, breathe for you, support your blood pressure if you go into shock and sometimes put you on dialysis if your kidneys fail. At that point some will recover and some will die.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 22, 2020 2:38 AM |
But why no antibiotics? Morphine? An induced coma? Blood transfusion? Stem cells? There's got to be something!
by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 22, 2020 2:40 AM |
Go an acupuncturist, let her stick needles in you, and get a prescription for a Traditional Asian Medicine tea where the ingredients are ground up pangolin, bats, snakes and unwanted Chinese girl children.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 22, 2020 2:41 AM |
going to do what i always do for fever-type diseases: take aspirin, drink water, cover myself with vaporub and lie under every blanket in this house to sweat it out.
wash, rinse, repeat.
may alternate that with going outside and doing a lot of deep breathing in the fresh air, to stave of pneumonia.
by Anonymous | reply 14 | March 22, 2020 2:42 AM |
I just read something about antimalarial medications being one of the possible things health scientists have been looking at. My partner and I traveled to South America just over a month ago and were on antimalarial medications until a couple of weeks ago. About a week ago, I had 2-3 days when I'm pretty sure I had a fever with chills and joint aches but no bad cough. I'm kind of wondering if my immune system managed to deal with COVID-19 due to the medication I had been on?
by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 22, 2020 2:45 AM |
People are saying it's The Chinese Flu. People are saying it's a hoax. Well, you're going to wake up and it will be gone, like magic. I know about these things.
by Anonymous | reply 16 | March 22, 2020 2:48 AM |
A sauna?
by Anonymous | reply 17 | March 22, 2020 2:48 AM |
I've got it. The doctor has me staying at home (alone), drinking fluids, resting, and taking Tylenol for fever. I have instructions to go to the ER if the fever goes up or my (already labored) breathing gets worse. That's all that can be done. My case appears to be mild -in spite of my age and an underlying autoimmune problem.
This isn't a joke, people.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | March 22, 2020 2:49 AM |
Bleach baths. Also, deep tanning. And nanosilver.
by Anonymous | reply 19 | March 22, 2020 2:51 AM |
You eat a bat that had it and recovered. You've got to chase bad germs with good bat germs.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | March 22, 2020 2:51 AM |
[Quote] This isn't a joke, people.
People?? You might as well have begun your post with "so."
by Anonymous | reply 21 | March 22, 2020 2:52 AM |
R15, that is interesting...I had a similar thought. I took a malaria oral vaccine a few months back to prepare for a trip to Sri Lanka. Now my partner is sick and the doctor thinks it’s CoVid 19 but there are no tests, of course. I have a mild, intermittent cough but no fever, and I have been with him each night and 24/7 for the last week since he’s been quarantined and I’m working from home. If it’s that contagious, I am surprised I don’t feel sick and wondered if that vaccine might have something to do with it when they started talking about the anti-malarial drug.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 22, 2020 2:53 AM |
[quote]why no antibiotics?
Antibiotics do not work. This is a viral infection.
by Anonymous | reply 23 | March 22, 2020 2:53 AM |
Anyone know if pets can get it? It seemed to start in China in game mammals, then spread to humans. I wonder if humans can bring it home to their pets?
by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 22, 2020 2:56 AM |
I believe that dogs can test positive for it. However, I don't know if it creates a serious health issue for them or if they can transmit it back to humans.
by Anonymous | reply 25 | March 22, 2020 2:58 AM |
No, pets (dogs and cats) can't get it and can't transmit it.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | March 22, 2020 2:59 AM |
Apparently albuterol is part of symptomatic therapy mentioned above. Asthma nebulizer which opens up the bronchial tubes, I suppose so you cough it out. I have asthma, it works. But now there’s an international shortage of albuterol, also Alupent spray used for “rescue inhaler”.
by Anonymous | reply 28 | March 22, 2020 3:02 AM |
R18, I hope you get better soon.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | March 22, 2020 3:03 AM |
First, make a will!
by Anonymous | reply 30 | March 22, 2020 3:04 AM |
Keep us posted, R18. Sending all good thoughts through the interwebs to you.
by Anonymous | reply 31 | March 22, 2020 3:05 AM |
(R18) Take good care of your yourself.
by Anonymous | reply 32 | March 22, 2020 3:08 AM |
I think I had it two weeks ago. Terrible teeth chattering chills, a terrible headache, one of the worst I have ever had and enduring fatigue. No coughing, mild sore throat.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | March 22, 2020 3:11 AM |
R33, you probably had a cold. Not everything is COVID-19.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | March 22, 2020 3:15 AM |
50% of the people who get put on to a respirator will die. It's like bringing a butter knife to a gun fight. And it's the only thing they got right now.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | March 22, 2020 3:16 AM |
My eye is twitching. I wonder if that is a sign.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | March 22, 2020 3:23 AM |
Hope you’re feeling better, R18.
I was surprised your doctor recommended taking Tylenol for your fever, though.
I found this to be very informative.
by Anonymous | reply 37 | March 22, 2020 3:25 AM |
50% of people who bring a butter knife to a gun fight survive? Post your source, please. That doesn’t seem right.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | March 22, 2020 3:26 AM |
The French have been saying to take Paracetamol (Tylenol) rather than Advil.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | March 22, 2020 3:30 AM |
r18 how did you catch it?
by Anonymous | reply 40 | March 22, 2020 3:55 AM |
Ibuprofen exacerbates the situation apparently. Stick with Tylenol for this one.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | March 22, 2020 3:56 AM |
This is probably going to sound dumb, so go ahead and call me Rose or some other choice names. Once you get it and recover in a few weeks, is that it? Are you good until a new strain comes out? I mean, you rarely hear of someone getting flu twice in one season.
by Anonymous | reply 42 | March 22, 2020 4:02 AM |
yes, rose. yet another minus point of this particular novel virus is that the period where you "shed" the virus - thus others can be infected from you - has an incredibly long period after you getting symptoms, like ten days to four weeks. so even if you feel better, you can give the virus to others
by Anonymous | reply 43 | March 22, 2020 4:13 AM |
R42, no one knows for sure. They think you might have an immunity to it but they don't know for how long.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | March 22, 2020 4:14 AM |
I read the same thing, that the French say no ibuprofen, only acetaminophen. Anyone know why though, what that means?
I have a stash of pro-air inhalers, I think some other types of inhalers, Advair and an alternative to Advair (the med named escapes me). Is the consensus that any type of bronchial-dilator could possibly help in the earlier stages of this virus?
I’m always game to try anything....but that’s with illnesses or conditions that I have some familiarity with already. This “novel” coronavirus has many aspects we don’t understand yet, so I think just throwing shit at the wall with meds and seeing what sticks is high-risk in this situation.
Also — I’m not the aspirin poster, but what are thoughts on taking that? What about Mucinex?
by Anonymous | reply 45 | March 22, 2020 4:36 AM |
I can't understand why people just can't ride a cold or flu out naturally anymore, maybe take some aspirins, drink fluids, get rest. The first sniffle they head to their doctor and get on a series of antibiotics.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | March 22, 2020 4:55 AM |
One thing that everybody talks about is the overwhelming exhaustion. Like it's exhausting just to sit up in bed.
I don't know how I would take care of my dog if the exhaustion was that bad.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | March 22, 2020 4:58 AM |
Ok, so my take away is that we should kill every dog we see because they are confirmed carriers of CV and they don't understand social distancing.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | March 22, 2020 5:00 AM |
r46, let me know what system you’re in for primary care. My doctors hold onto antibiotics like they’re pure cocaine. Fucking ***everything*** needs to “run its course” with these people.
r47, if you can afford it, hire a dog walker now, maybe just a few times a week so they get to know your dog. Be up front with them that you are looking for someone who could care for your dog while you’re convalescing should you get the virus — if they aren’t up to this, you’ll know immediately, give them an out in the first conversation “if you aren’t comfortable with this, I totally get it, just let me know the truth of how you feel and I won’t bother you again, thank you so much for your time.”
If they are, talk through what steps would be taken so the walker doesn’t even enter your home if possible. He/she wears gloves, calls the dog, clips leash, and off they go. You could even talk through them feeding/watering your pooch too if you were sick. My biggest point is PREPARE NOW. Do it.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | March 22, 2020 5:04 AM |
The exhaustion is the worst part. You don't feel like doing anything.
The CDC website reports that dogs ARE NOT carriers of the virus. There are NO known cases of pets getting or spreading this infection. Quit spreading baseless rumors and fear!
by Anonymous | reply 50 | March 22, 2020 5:04 AM |
I don't understand that mentality either, R46. It's strange to me that in this day and age, people still don't seem to realize that antibiotics don't treat viruses—they only kill off bacteria. This can be useful if you develop pneumonia from a viral infection (which is what is the main issue for people who have COVID-19), but it does nothing to eliminate the virus. Your immune system has to do that on its own.
I've had many bouts with viral infections and the flu, and have always avoided taking antibiotics unless absolutely necessary. I really only recall taking it for a few bonus with strep throat as a kid. I know several people who have built up tolerances to antibiotics through repeated, frivolous use, and that is a scary problem to have when a massive infection happens. The only time I recall consulting a professional about a viral infection was when my temperature got to a dangerous level—I had a terrible viral infection when I was a teenager that left me bedridden for a week, and triggered a fever that was pushing 105, which is obviously very dangerous. My mom called the hospital, and a nurse on the phone told her to have me take a cold bath. It was terribly uncomfortable but I did it, and followed it with significant rounds of Tylenol, which helped bring it down. That was one of the sickest I can ever recall being in my life. I still don't know what it was, but I saw my primary care physician near the end of it when I felt better, and he told me it was likely something viral.
by Anonymous | reply 51 | March 22, 2020 5:07 AM |
*bouts with strep throat, not bonus
by Anonymous | reply 52 | March 22, 2020 5:08 AM |
What does it mean, a person "builds up tolerances to antibiotics"?
by Anonymous | reply 53 | March 22, 2020 5:39 AM |
[quote]I can't understand why people just can't ride a cold or flu out naturally anymore, maybe take some aspirins, drink fluids, get rest. The first sniffle they head to their doctor and get on a series of antibiotics.
Did you just wake up from your decades long nap Gramps? You cant do that anymore. They stopped letting people do that decades ago with all the resistant strains started popping up. It's very hard now to get antibiotics unless you really need them or your DR. is crooked.
by Anonymous | reply 54 | March 22, 2020 6:04 AM |
People who become immune or resistant to an antibiotic.R51. Rather it is the bacteria responsible for infections that become resistant. And thy only happens because they are misused by not taking the full round as proscribed. Misuse is when people stop taking them too soon or sporadically when they start feeling better. The bacteria can then sometimes mutate it's own resistance to the antibiotic.
And FYI, it's not just that person that gets affected. If that virus mutated, and that person infects another person like yourself, that antibiotic will also fail even if you never took it before. So staying off antibiotics when you truly need them dose nothing to make them more or less effective. You have been infected by a antibiotic resistant strain.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | March 22, 2020 6:13 AM |
^^^People DON'T become immune or resistant to an antibiotic^^
by Anonymous | reply 56 | March 22, 2020 6:14 AM |
R53 it means that they stop being effective. If you use them often, it can happen.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | March 22, 2020 6:15 AM |
R56 you may not be "immune"--that isn't really the right word--but the bacteria itself can build a resistance to antibiotics, rendering them ineffective
by Anonymous | reply 58 | March 22, 2020 6:20 AM |
That's what I said R58, "People dont become immune or resistant to an antibiotic.[R51]. Rather it is the bacteria responsible for infections that become resistant."
by Anonymous | reply 59 | March 22, 2020 6:44 AM |
Many people on this thread seem to be senile, recently awoken from hibernation, and incapable of clear expression. Please call your doctors or your still functioning cute nephews (or great nephews) - otherwise all hope is lost.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | March 22, 2020 7:52 AM |
You can get a flu twice in one season Rose. But once you get over a cold or the flu, you build up antibodies and usually cant get it ever again. So yes, if you get the Coronavirus, in most likely will never get it again, BUT you can get other types of flu you have not been exposed to. Don't forget, thousands of people die each year from the flu.
FYI the common cold they think is actually around 250 virus. So even if you got a cold every year of your life, you would never have gone through all of them to be totally resistant. That's the reason there is no magic bullet for the common cold.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | March 22, 2020 7:57 AM |
[quote]BUT you can get other types of flu you have not been exposed to.
Those "other types of flu" are due to the fact that viruses are constantly mutating to continue propagating. And that little virus fucker is going to win every single time cause he's much MUCH smarter than those dumb humans.
It might help to remember that there are currently 4 main types of flu, but several hundred strains, due to those clever viruses mutating away. Same with HIV. One type, 60+ strains worldwide.
by Anonymous | reply 62 | March 22, 2020 8:02 AM |
The two main symptoms of CORVID19 are:
A temperature of over 100 degrees fahrenheit. It should be measured in the afternoon. Temps tend to spike upward in the morning after you wake up
Second is a dry unproductive cough. If you are coughing things up OK, it's likely a cold or the seasonal flu.
People tend to dehydrate rapidly so you need to drink a lot. If your coughing things up, that is water that needs to be replaced. It's nearly impossible to drink too much water (it can be done if you're totally stupid and try to do this), so drink up.
You also need to move. You should be moving a bit if you are able to at all. You want nothing to settle. Even if you are sick, at minimum change positions in your bed every few hours. Walk around for five minutes or so..
Antibiotics do not fight viruses. But SOME pneumonia seen in people who are coinfected with flu are bacterial in nature. Some of those pneumonias are also viral or mechanical so you can't assume.
Caffeine is a cousin to albuterol and was used with theophylline (also related to caffeine) if you can tolerate caffeine a few extra cups is helpful. And remember caffeine does cause you to urinate more, but the water in the coffee or tea or soda is so great it makes any dehydration negligible. (But be careful if using caffeine pills to take them with a FULL 8 ounce glass of liquid or more).
Respiratory distress, feeling like you cannot get enough air in to breathe is an emergency. If so go to your ER or call 911 (or whatever your emergency number is). TELL them you think you have COVID19
by Anonymous | reply 63 | March 22, 2020 8:18 AM |
Thank you, [R63]! You restore my faith in DL!
Seriously, what 63 said is spot-on. Pay attention!
by Anonymous | reply 64 | March 22, 2020 6:01 PM |
Quinine and mercury, pid.
by Anonymous | reply 65 | March 22, 2020 6:59 PM |
You dumbasses know that even if a bacteria builds up an immunity to an antibiotic, human scientists can chemically engineer an antibiotic to counter it?
We can beat viruses too.
by Anonymous | reply 66 | March 22, 2020 11:09 PM |
Really R66?
by Anonymous | reply 67 | March 23, 2020 5:08 PM |
Really R67
Now, Stanford chemists report November 2 in the Journal of the American Chemical Society a possible solution: a small molecular attachment that helps conventional antibiotics penetrate and destroy their targets.
The attachment, known as r8, helps guide antibiotics through a bacterium’s outer defenses and encourages them to linger, said Alexandra Antonoplis, a graduate student in chemistry and co-lead author with fellow chemistry graduate student Xiaoyu Zang. That penetration and tenacity help kill bacteria, such as methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, or MRSA, that doctors would otherwise struggle to stop.
Indeed, adding r8 to vancomycin, a first-line defense against MRSA, made the new drug hundreds of times more effective, according to experiments conducted by Antonoplis, Zang, and their advisers, Lynette Cegelski, an associate professor of chemistry, and Paul Wender, the Francis W. Bergstrom Professor of Chemistry. The same strategy, the researchers believe, could apply beyond MRSA to other drugs and infections.
by Anonymous | reply 68 | March 23, 2020 5:11 PM |
R63 is wrong about caffeine's dehydration effects being negligible. If you take caffeine (drink, Excedrin, however) then drink LOTS more liquid to counteract its dehydrating effects. The last thing you want with any kind of virus is dehydration.
by Anonymous | reply 69 | March 23, 2020 7:17 PM |
R51 yeah I try to avoid antibiotics except when absolutely necessary. That said, some doctors do not help, went to one a few years back with a cold, just wanted a medical certificate so I could take a few days sick leave, got given antibiotics which I didnt even ask for. I hope thats changed now. I chucked em in a drawer and used them when I had a bout of nasty food poisoning for which they worked a treat, took the whole lot even though it cleared up after the first couple
by Anonymous | reply 70 | March 23, 2020 7:22 PM |
R13 sick but funny
by Anonymous | reply 71 | March 23, 2020 7:39 PM |
On March 13, she was tested for COVID-19.
“I was not planning on being tested,” she posted. “However, members of my family work in health care & wanted to be sure before returning to work.”
The next day — with no symptoms aside from “a slight remaining cough” — Buscaglia got the call that she had tested positive.
“My jaw DROPPED,” she said. “How was I positive? I didn’t have the symptoms on the news, I got cleared by a doctor, and no one cared at customs [that] I had come from a high risk country.”
by Anonymous | reply 72 | March 23, 2020 7:55 PM |
This is how these doctors are going about it, if you really want to know. It takes 2 secs to look up their medical term abbreviations in a second tab. For instance, CXR means chest x Ray.
by Anonymous | reply 73 | March 23, 2020 8:22 PM |
What about Mucinex and Zinc lozenges? Good or bad?
by Anonymous | reply 74 | March 23, 2020 10:34 PM |
Zinc won't hurt -No idea if it will be helpful in this case. It doesn't kill viruses, but it does inhibit replication.
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