Lesbian academics harassed with Title IX complaints by gay acquaintance desperate for job
[quote] When the university told my wife about the sexual-harassment complaints against her, we knew they weren’t true. We had no idea how strange the truth really was.
The story really isn't as bizarre as she makes it though. I've heard of pettier and stranger revenge stories (fictional as they may be).
|by Anonymous||reply 101||05/24/2020|
It's pretty out there. The most bizarre thing about it was that they were ultimately able to prove this guy faked the complaints and settled with him (though she lost the job, ultimately, as did he).
|by Anonymous||reply 1||03/19/2020|
I seem to remember Datalounge vilifying this woman at the time. With great misogynous zeal.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||03/19/2020|
Wow! What a story.
The only part I somehow missed was how the in-person meeting with "Jessica" and Melanie went. I pictured "J" showing up in drag! But it seemed to skip over that event, and only reveal Marta's new concern that "Jessica" had claimed she visited her at her apartment the previous Monday, after their meeting with Melanie.
WHO showed up at that meeting as "Jessica?" Or was the meeting canceled?
|by Anonymous||reply 3||03/19/2020|
R2 Do you have a link to a thread? Or can someone find it?
|by Anonymous||reply 4||03/19/2020|
Can anyone figure out the "J's" real name?
|by Anonymous||reply 5||03/19/2020|
Has Reddit uncovered who "J" is yet?
If not... it's up to Datalounge.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||03/19/2020|
Lesbians and gay men ain't never gotten along, and ain't never gonna!
|by Anonymous||reply 7||03/19/2020|
It should not be that hard.
Just check out the legal documents or look at who was hired by U of M for Creative Nonfiction three years ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||03/19/2020|
Would it kill them to do something with their hair and wear nice clean shirts if they're getting their picture taken for the paper?
|by Anonymous||reply 10||03/19/2020|
R1 I was expecting something else from the first few paragraphs, so I was surprised to find that obvious conclusion once she introduced J (that he did it because he wanted the job) was the correct one. But it is indeed not what I expected from just the byline; I expected something involving homophobia or shit-stirring students.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||03/19/2020|
R4, I don’t recall reading about this on DL before. Other academic drama, sure, but not this.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||03/19/2020|
There was a similar case, IIRC, in Cambridge, but I can't remember what happened. A law school professor at Harvard who became victim to a con artist.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||03/19/2020|
What a horrible experience for them. I hope karma catches up with “J” as he is a psychopath!
|by Anonymous||reply 16||03/19/2020|
R15 Yes, the recent Bruce Hay scandal at Cambridge. I saw similarities too. Except the perpetrators and victims were inverted here, sort of.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||03/19/2020|
R17 What lesbian has sex with a man and claims that he is her one exception? Should have been a sign that she was full of shit. And that's not even getting into the MTF partner.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||03/20/2020|
Behind a paywall ... NYT has lifted paywall restrictions for everything related to Coronavirus but don’t they know lesbian professor sex drama stories are just as important???
|by Anonymous||reply 20||03/20/2020|
R2: are you referring to the Avital Ronell saga?
|by Anonymous||reply 21||03/20/2020|
The one with eyeglasses looks like someone cut her hair with gardening shears.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||03/20/2020|
Well, beauty and barber shops are closed, under Shelter In Place guidelines....
|by Anonymous||reply 23||03/20/2020|
Is that true for their state? They don't live in California.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||03/20/2020|
Any identiy info turn up on "J" in the case?
|by Anonymous||reply 25||03/20/2020|
Talia’s sort of a jerk, but she’s right about this
|by Anonymous||reply 26||03/20/2020|
I can't demonize this guy because I've not heard his side of the story.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||03/20/2020|
R27 Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Based on what she and Marta write he sounds psychotic. It's probably accurate and the story is true. But we've heard zero from this guy and know nothing about him. In this #metoo era, how many times to we have to learn the lesson of be wary of final judgement until you've heard all sides.
Plus, on thing I thought of: now that this has become a NYTimes story. I wonder if "J", based on his patterns of behavior laid out in their story, just uses this to take it to a whole other level of lying and bizarre allegations?
|by Anonymous||reply 28||03/20/2020|
Gay men really hate women -- even lesbians.
I've been on DL long enough to know.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||03/20/2020|
I can't believe Dataloungers haven't uncovered "J" yet. I'm just picturing what this queen looks like in my mind!
|by Anonymous||reply 30||03/21/2020|
Well I just did a quick search on Reddit and Twitter. I'm a bit of a novice but usually uncover *something.* Like, evidence of other people looking. Anyone else?
R9 claims "Just check out the legal documents or look at who was hired by U of M for Creative Nonfiction three years ago."
|by Anonymous||reply 31||03/21/2020|
I recommend digging through the comments sections of the articles written about the case as a starting point.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||03/21/2020|
Talia Levin on Twitter claims to have found him. See Twitter thread...
|by Anonymous||reply 33||03/21/2020|
"J's" name is Duane Gilson
|by Anonymous||reply 35||03/21/2020|
This is absolutely horrifying. Perpetuating stereotypes of queer folks as sexual predators and simultaneously reinforcing the narrative that title IX complaints are all made up. Fuck this guy.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||03/21/2020|
Ugh, he looks like the worst kind of queen
|by Anonymous||reply 37||03/21/2020|
I hate gays who make "Tina Fey" face in every photo. We can see you're fat or you have a wonky eye. Squinching your face up like Popeye or rolling your eyes to the side can't hide that shit as well as you think.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||03/21/2020|
Honestly, he looks humble, quirky and personable in that photo. And is definitely comfortable, low-baggage 5.
The perfect cover!
|by Anonymous||reply 39||03/21/2020|
Reading that article made me feel sick to my stomach.
That guy is an absolute piece of shit. Way to make things harder for people who really are sexually harassed.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||03/21/2020|
Here is a photo of Duane Gilson from an interview, "5 Things We Can Each Do Help Solve The Loneliness Epidemic." He looks like a kind neighbor.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||03/21/2020|
Actually, I should have just posted the article. Oops, sorry.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||03/21/2020|
This guy is pure evil. There should be prison time for this kind of thing!
|by Anonymous||reply 43||03/21/2020|
A PhD from George Washington and he thinks he'entitled to a job at a good school? He's lucky to have gotten one at MCLA--God knows, he probably thinks he's Williams material. Good luck getting tenure--this kind of thing, if proven, is usually a career ender. I noticed he has tried to remove access to him on the Internet. His days are numbered and he knows it. An MFA from Chatham? Why bother.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||03/21/2020|
love love lesbians. They look like all the lesbians I knew in the 80s. The look never veers from 40 years ago. They're good that way.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||03/21/2020|
It's the lack of makeup; hairstyle is nondescript. Devoid of artifice. Love lesbians so much.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||03/21/2020|
LOL at the people saying we need to hear both sides. No, we don't, because literally nothing justifies what he did. They caught him. They have the phone number he used to verify the anonymous email addresses from which he sent the false complaints. The number was his number, the one he used to text the woman asking if she'd heard anything about the job. Bigger LOL to the way he tried to get in front of it by claiming a woman was obsessed with him, broke into his house, and trolled one of his colleagues. Because that's what people obsessed with you do - troll other people.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||03/21/2020|
If you ever meet a guy with a chest tattoo of a typewriter...run!
|by Anonymous||reply 48||03/21/2020|
R48 Agreed. It's more accurate than Phrenology!
|by Anonymous||reply 49||03/21/2020|
[quote]R45 love love lesbians. They look like all the lesbians I knew in the 80s. The look never veers from 40 years ago. They're good that way.
My best friends are lesbians. They can cut to the chase. And they’ll help you build a glass-fronted, rock solid bookshelf for your vintage Madam Alexander dolls of the world collection in 2 hours.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||03/21/2020|
R50 AND will not judge you for having dolls--even though they have no interest in them themselves!
|by Anonymous||reply 51||03/21/2020|
Gawker would have DESTROYED this guy.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||03/21/2020|
Duane is pals with Colby Keller. @Dgilson is Duane’s old twitter handle.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||03/21/2020|
Boy, he's just shamelessly going for the "Truman Capote thing" at R48, isn't he? LOL.
Now, take a look at this guy's story:
|by Anonymous||reply 55||03/21/2020|
R54. God, that offensive--offensively pretentious, self-satisfied, and twee. The lesbians should send that to all of his administrators, colleagues, and students. Who cares about his penchant for piss play? It's the awfulness of his writing that makes him unfit to teach writing at any level, from preschool to postgrad!
|by Anonymous||reply 57||03/21/2020|
From R54: "It’s unfortunate that my desire to see others piss, or to be pissed upon, or to drink the piss of a beloved, is considered a human deviation, not an act of love. Oh well. Like David, I soldier on."
I don't know about you, but I'm dabbing tears from my eyes. Here we are celebrating doctors and nurses and grocery-store workers while this brave urination warrior goes virtually unnoticed!
"...and lifted a cup of his urine to my lips and bade me to sip."
Has the Bard of Avon himself been resurrected? To pee, or not to pee: that is the question.
"...a cleansing of both the remnants of sex and of the metaphysical sorrow that consumed me that day."
Dude, just be a piss freak. No need to justify it with "metaphysical sorrow." Also, no need to broadcast it to the whole world when you are, you know, a professor desperately trying to move up the academic ladder.
"Have I gone too far?"
|by Anonymous||reply 58||03/21/2020|
R55 That guy is a fucking attention whore who wants in on the story. He knew Duane was a psychopath. He didn't care. He never told the Duane to stop contacting him. He never spoke up. He wasn't afraid of him nor did he fear retribution. He never thought Duana was a threat. Until now, of course, because now he can use the story to get attention.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||03/21/2020|
Uh, sorry, R59, but there seems to be quite a pattern here... The lesbians proved he was guilty as sin in that case, so why wouldn't I believe this guy, too?
|by Anonymous||reply 60||03/21/2020|
R60 I didn't say I don't believe his story. I do. I justdon't think he was slightly bothered by Duane's behavior and is hopping on the pile on to get attention.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||03/22/2020|
R57? Don't get me wrong - I hate this Duane guy and wish he would drop dead. But if you can't come up with a better critique than "awfulness" you have no business criticizing anyone else's writing.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||03/22/2020|
The quotes R57 provided were truly awful, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||03/22/2020|
This guy went to a lot of trouble. I suppose the teaching position was worth it? But it makes me wonder if he had some sort of other beef with these two besides competition. In the article she states they've known each other for a long time. If not, he's just demented.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||03/22/2020|
Most academics are insane. Both too little education and too much education make you nuts.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||03/22/2020|
Won't the lesbians be in trouble now for breaking their settlement agreement that they weren't allowed to named him? Yes, they didn't actually give his name, but they made it very easy to figure out who he was.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||03/22/2020|
R67 Interesting, I don't know. But I doubt it. My impression is they seem to more or less have their act together with legal stuff. I imagine they had lawyers read the article before it was published.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||03/22/2020|
Too paraphrase a famous quote, "Academics be crazy ". I would like a Lifetime movie about this whole melodrama. In order to maintain social distancing, they can film the actors separately and edit them together. It won't look any more awkward or weird than any other Lifetime film. My casting suggestions would be Maura Tierney and Cynthia Nixon for the les professors and Simon Pegg for the stalker.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||03/22/2020|
R67, the trouble with NDAs is that to sue for violation, you have to make a deposition and make the information you are trying to conceal part of the public record.
That and the cost of suing these women in a case in which the plaintiff does not have a slam dunk, will be enough to keep him from taking legal action.
The problem with suing over an NDA is that the plaintiff has more to lose than the defendant.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||03/22/2020|
R65 Duane Gilson was also surprisingly sloppy.
According to this woman's article they were able to trace the emailed anonymous tips from three different aliases to a single internet provider, which they ultimately had to hand over. And there he was! He did it all on his own computer? From his own internet account?
If I did something like this (knock on wood) I would be so paranoid and careful about how I did it. I'd use burner phones, travel to other random towns to use computers in libraries where I was sure there were no security cameras, do absolutley nothing related to any of it on any computer or phone of mine, make sure I never touch nothing related to the crime, use gloves, wear fake mustaches, dress in drag. LOL
I'll be willing to bet his personal computer(s) search history was loaded with "how to" google searches about anonymous tips and Title IX research and all the deans and offices and contacts and reddit threads. Sloppy!
|by Anonymous||reply 71||03/22/2020|
R69 Yes! Simon Peg!
Or maybe Cole Escola, to make it extra demented (actually, Escola could play one of the lesbians too)
|by Anonymous||reply 72||03/22/2020|
Simon Peg to play the stalkers grandpa.
Way too old to be an early career academic.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||03/22/2020|
[quote]R67 Won't the lesbians be in trouble now for breaking their settlement agreement that they weren't allowed to named him? Yes, they didn't actually give his name, but they made it very easy to figure out who he was.
[quote]R70 The problem with suing over an NDA is that the plaintiff has more to lose than the defendant.
Here there is no Non Disclosure Agreement, in that the settlement allows all parties to publicly discuss the facts as long as they themselves do not reveal “J”s identity by name.
She mentions this near the end of the article.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||03/22/2020|
Just by looking at the pic, I can CONFIRM they're lesbians.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||03/22/2020|
Maybe Duane Gilson and Joey Gugliemelli (Sherry Pie) can get together in prison and exchange grifting/stalking tips.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||03/22/2020|
My impression is that it wasn't only the job. He resented these women for their cozy family life; he wanted to destroy that as much as anything else.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||03/22/2020|
Yes, R74. That is the Non-Disclosure Agreement. It is a clause in the settlement that states they cannot reveal Duane's name.
If he wants to sue them for revealing it, Duane will likely make his name public himself---and will probably spend more on legal fees than he would recover.
This is why non-disclosure agreements made with people who are not super rich--and why NDA with such narrow terms as this one---are not very effective.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||03/22/2020|
[quote]R70 That is the Non-Disclosure Agreement. It is a clause in the settlement that states they cannot reveal Duane's name.
Right. But most often an agreement like that is very sweeping, and you can’t talk about the events that lead up to it at all. Here there’s just 1 thing they can’t disclose; the events themselves aren’t being put off limits.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||03/22/2020|
A little bit of makeup would do wonders for these mannish lesbians
|by Anonymous||reply 80||03/22/2020|
Why did they hire a lawyer? Why not hire a private investigator with IT knowledge? A former spy, like Christopher Steele. Or someone from a company like Cambridge analytica
|by Anonymous||reply 81||03/22/2020|
They hired a lawyer because one of them was being investigated by their employer, and they had questions going forward.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||03/22/2020|
Does Duane Gilson have any social media presence at all left? I saw one online article had a giant "Remove this article the author is a criminal blah blah" thing at the top (huh?). I wonder if he'll invent another fake byline.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||03/23/2020|
“Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.”
|by Anonymous||reply 85||03/23/2020|
Gilson seems to have no academic job these days. He's gone from MCLA (which is a little town in the Berkshires, not LA) and it looks like he may have spent 5 minutes at Texas Tech. Maybe he's on the road with Colby. I have to admit the acquaintanceship with Colby Keller made this more interesting and oddly, makes his motives both more twisted and understandable. I guess the companionship of Calvin, histrusty lab mix has never been enough.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||03/23/2020|
R87 Yes. It's another odd layer.
I'd love to see a Fatal Attraction/Misery-esque film adaptation based on this story.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||03/23/2020|
Of course he's a firecrotch. OF COURSE he is.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||03/23/2020|
What his motives got to do with Colby?
|by Anonymous||reply 90||03/23/2020|
Seriously, every ginger I’ve known comes with a giant chip on their shoulder.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||03/23/2020|
Was just scrolling and had to stop and saying those are two of the dykiest faces ever.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||03/23/2020|
It's because they fug, r91.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||03/23/2020|
Any recent info on this weird case?
|by Anonymous||reply 94||03/28/2020|
Duane Gilson should film everything he's doing and really ramp-up the insanity, then maybe Netflix will make a docu-series about him, a la Tiger King.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||03/28/2020|
This tread popped up a while back on the "DC Urban Moms" message board:
|by Anonymous||reply 96||03/28/2020|
It’s scary to think about how if the false accuser had been just a bit more tech-savvy he would have gotten away with it.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||03/28/2020|
R48 "I'll email you the unpublished manuscript of my new screenplay. It's very Joycean you'll love it "
|by Anonymous||reply 98||03/28/2020|
Any new info on this, or Duane Gilson?
|by Anonymous||reply 99||05/24/2020|
Gilson's the co-author lf this drivel. Wonder how he knows Fotis?
|by Anonymous||reply 100||05/24/2020|
R95 I'd watch, with all the schadenfreude I could muster.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||05/24/2020|