Anyone else thinking that Andrew Cuomo should have run for president this year?

Maybe, if Biden wins, he'll be asked to lead some of the Covid-19 response/recovery.

But everyone hates him, OP. Including the people who voted for him. They just didn't want a younger lesbian version of Bernie Sanders for governor.

Outside NY, everyone really hates him. He has such a nasty, smug, aggressive know-it-all attitude. And after NY's history with its last few governors, this one seems like just another wife-beater. He's probably not, but he has that vibe. You just know he beats the fuck out of something every night, even if it's only a boxer's punching bag with Sandra Lee's face on it.

No.

Anyone who thinks so hasn’t had to listen to his hectoring NY accent voice since 1993

OP, the country is completely over New Yorkers running for and being President. Rich New Yorkers are completely out of touch with the rest of the country.

Cuomo is doing a great job with coronavirus. He saw Trump fucking it up and recognized a huge political opportunity was his to grab. He's run with it successfully.

But he's an arrogant S.O.B. His honking voice is like nails on a chalkboard and he's too narcissistic to do anything to fix that. He is, on the whole, thoroughly unappealing.

De Blasio, on the other hand, is hot as hell.

Cuomo is a hot daddy that needs to tell me what to do.

1) That accent. His brother lost his Noo Yawk accent so he could work on TV. Why does Andrew's accent just get worse over time? I grew up in NYC and I've come to realize how unattractive and thuggish this sounds to anyone outside of New York.

2) Not all of us in NYC love the Gov, particularly since the MTA is a state agency with no transparency, no accountability, and in a constant state of decline. Just one example.

3) DiBlasio is many, many times worse. At least Cuomo can be effective, periodically. And BTW, they HATE each other.

He wouldn't have gone anywhere in this cycle. He's shining because he deserves to shine. He's stepping up. I don't know if he's getting it right, but he's getting on it and that is worth something right now. He does now have the profile for a run in future and, jerk or not, a record you (probably) have to respect.

[quote]But he's an arrogant S.O.B. His honking voice is like nails on a chalkboard and he's too narcissistic to do anything to fix that.

Chris cuts his brother off when interviewing him, I think he doesn't like to hear Andrew talk.

Does he stand out in any way politically? What issues would you most associate him with?

[quote]Chris cuts his brother off when interviewing him, I think he doesn't like to hear Andrew talk.

I don't think he likes to hear anybody but himself talk.

Immediately after Sandy Hook, he went for strengthening gun regulation in New York. The legislature passed the "Safe Act" and he signed it. A significant portion of the upstate electorate hate him for it. There are signs in all their front yards, years later, still bitching about the Safe Act.

He has advocated for and signed bail reform. He is big on a woman's right to choose.

He is also enormously skilled at grabbing political power for his own purposes.

R10: Attacking teacher's unions, keeping the State Senate Republican as an excuse not to do anything remotely left wing, shutting down an investigation into corruption he set up because it got too close to associates of his, setting up a campaign finance commission that tried to backdoor regulations smashing the Working Families Party, etc.

Cuomo blows and YMF needs to stop trying to make Cumo and Fetch happen!

Generally I don’t like the guy but agree that in this situation he is doing a stellar job.

You hear that, YMF?

Gaaaaaaaaaaah!

Oh dear, I think R5 is running a fever (based on that DeBlahBlah comment). Do you also have a cough?

Andrew Cuomo is the de facto POTUS, while the dotard stands onstage scowling, sniffing and fidgeting.

No Democratic dynasty candidates for me, thanks.

Cuomo remembers Giuliani grabbing the spotlight on 9/11 & making everyone believe he was “America’s mayor,” profiting off his fame for decades. He sees Trump totally fucking up the response & says, “I’m gonna make Covid 19 my bitch & own Donald Trump. I’ll be ‘America’s governor.!’ Then I’ll continually run for office & lose but make a fuckload of money off “global security” and run my own spy agency behind the backs of the CIA & the state department!”

He is a good technocrat, YMF. But maybe too New York for the rest of the country.

God, no.

So how do you feel about a potential trump monarchy, R18? Imagine these United States under King Junior's rule or King Barron's (feel free to insert the name of your favorite grifter).

As compared to tRump, most will come across as brilliant.

[quote] Cuomo is a hot daddy that needs to tell me what to do.

He can tell me to suck him first, then get my mouth on Chris, too.

I would give anything for another President from nice, sensible, Ohio.

I'm no Chris Cuomo fan, but just the other night he was interviewing Andrew and Andrew called him, "Little brother..." He was so condescending and offensive and arrogant I wanted to slap the shit out of him. I couldn't stand that fucker to be PResident. He's an asshole.

cuomo only looks and sounds good because trump is such a fucking incompetent shitstain on humanity. if obama were handling this, cuomo would be a minor player,

I voted for Andrew Cuomo twice, I'd vote for him again.

Sometimes we have to remember the work and accomplishments some politicians achieve throughout their career.

I may not always agree with all of Governor Cuomo's positions, but I do appreciate how diligent and consistent he's been about informing his constituents about the virus. I also won't forget how supportive he's been of New York's LGBTQ community. Governor Cuomo worked hard, pulled in favors and pulled strings to get marriage equality passed in New York State years before it was recognized at the federal level.

He's very smart and he is very calculating. A 100 % political creature. Very pragmatic. I hate the sound of his voice. IMO he'd be very good in a cabinet position for a Democratic POTUS.But he also strikes me as an arrogant prick and a pain in the ass. He has no loyalty to anyone but himself, and he will work with Republlicans in ways I cannot abide.

Cuomo is good in bad situations. I know he personally handled a problem in my city with serious utility failures and it hasn't been a problem since (he did something to the electric company to shape them up in a hurry).

In other situations concerning safety he's performed the same -- always steps up and takes charge. There's something reassuring about it and he comes across as genuine when it comes to valuing NYers lives/ safety.

On a fed level though, the polarization of NYS policies wouldn't be so beloved, wanted, nor beneficial. When it works out, it works out well, but when they don't, it creates a burden on regular people. NYS policies often meets the definition of overreach and sometimes do more harm than good -- Cuomo is very much that way in how he operates. He easily drifts into authoritarian territory, that creates unnecessary, costly headaches for those just squeaking by.

He looks like a genius compared to...well, you know who. And it has been very entertaining to watch them tangle. He is definitely growing on me.

He's a capable career politician and he is clearly a Democrat.

But I don't ever want to see him naked.

Another fan of Cuomo. But not sure he plays well on a national level. Biden is the most electable - because he’s the least forceful or offensive. Competency is clearly not a requirement for Presidency anymore.

Everybody LOVED Rudy Giuliani for about 5 minutes after 9/11. "Good in a crisis" does not necessarily equal good on a day-to-day basis.

Has OP seen Cuomo in an interview? He sounds like a typical arrogant New York prick. He didn’t run because he knew he would’ve done terribly. Joe Biden would’ve mowed him down just like he did all of these other candidates.

That's exactly right, R34. He's been, at best, a mediocre governor, overall. That he's doing okay now is at least partially because he's being compared to Trump.

oh who knows? oh who cares? he didn't. it's biden. Let's all get with the program of destroying Trump. TIA.

Who is he dating now that he and Sandra lee are over?

Hey, it’s all uncharted waters these days. And we are making up the rules as we go. Can’t we do a do over and switch out Biden for Cuomo?

nobody can do anything. everyone shut up, and get with the goddamn program.

and incidentally, while we are on the subject, YMF, stop being a goddamn asshole. this shit is locked down. We have had FUCKING SUFFICIENT.

Merci.

R41 - seems unnecessary and excessive. I actually agreed with his post.

the primaries are always over by super tuesday. We have strayed a long way as a nation from thinking about our president as an administrator. Cuomo might make a great administrator. Maybe in 2024 we will think of candidates that way. as for now, people just vote on who they think shares the same values on issues, whether or not that person could even get them implemented. After all, I share a lot of concerns with Bernie but dont think hed be a good president or get anything done.

What did you agree with, R42? That Cuomo should’ve embarrassed himself by running for the nomination so he could drop out before winning a single state? Or do you think he might have won the nomination?

I’m a New Yorker and even I’m over New Yorkers running for national office. I’ve voted for Cuomo because I would never vote republican or sit out an election, but I really despise him. Arrogant and corrupt and petty and thin skinned.

Cuomo's bullheaded insistence on keeping his nasal Queens accent limits him severely. Outside of the Northeast, people are not primed to hear that. In the course one debate, the nation would grow tired of him.

One of my senior staff worked in Cuomo’s office and confirmed what an arrogant nightmare he is. He is such a smug opportunist. He is all over national TV because as someone said upthread he hopes to use this as his starting block for national office. I don’t know anyone in NY who likes him, but he controls the party machine so we have been stuck voting for him.

R46- Trump has a new york accent too.

I can't stand the fact that he had the Tappan Zee Bridge renamed to THE MARIO CUOMO BRIDGE-YUCK!

Still haven’t forgotten what he did to Andy Byford and the MTA. But only NYC dwellers would care about that.

R50- I agree. Andy Byford was treated poorly, disrespectfully. Cuomo is a CREEP.

Governors as a general rule are good for or at one thing in their term for the most part. In 2016 when the RI House and Senate passed marriage equality Governor Lincoln Chafee signed the bill on the steps of the RI State House. I was there. that was Governor Gumps good thing to do.

Why the hell are CNN, MSNBC and even Fox carrying Gov Cuomo's daily briefings live, those of us not in NY don't give a shit about what Cuomo is doing. Your local stations can cover this crap, I am sure they aren't going to carry every news briefing from the Governors of Utah or Iowa or even California which is a larger state.

[quote] I would give anything for another President from nice, sensible, Ohio.

Ohio ain't what it use to be honey, most of the Republicans are as racist as anyone you would get from the deep south and they are all bible-thumpers.

he sounds tough like bernie without sounding bellicose

he sounds down to earth like biden without sounding added.

addled that is

Joe Biden would’ve gutted Cuomo the same way he did Bloomberg. Joe sounds addled? 10 million Democratic voters who went out and cast a vote for him so far probably beg to differ. Put Andy through the ringer like Joe on the national stage against a field of candidates and let’s see how he’d fare.

We’ve got our man, and he’s ready to carry us to victory in November.

I agree with you, OP, but I also remember when Rudy took command after 9/11 and impressed us all with his leadership.

Is he still with Sandra Lee?

NOT all. Not if you were in New York City. The only reason why the City's Emergency Command Center was destroyed that day was because Giuliani INSISTED on putting it in the World Trade Center against the advice of all the experts. And that fact was pointed out far and wide on the day the towers came down. The attack was on the day of the primary election to select candidates to succeed Giuliani. The sonofabitch immediately moved to cancel elections and extend his term as Mayor, due to the emergency. A naked self-serving powergrab that was roundly denounced throughout the city.

Giuliani had long before outworn his welcome in New York City. After 9/11, he did nothing more than any mayor should do and he did a number of things NO ONE SHOULD HAVE DONE.

he switched to sara lee

R60 Thank you! I never knew that. To the rest of world (non-NYC), he was a gift from God.

What is your opinion about Andrew Cuomo?

[quote] I'm no Chris Cuomo fan, but just the other night he was interviewing Andrew and Andrew called him, "Little brother..."

He also said “I talked to mom today and she said she likes me best. I’m her favorite son.” It’s schtick.

he loved to go out all the time

I am sure he is positioning himself to run for president in 4-8 years

[quote] Is he still with Sandra Lee?

No, they broke up and sold the house they shared

No. He should put Manhattan on lock down.

I kind of like a NY accent

He hates being upstate. I'm originally from Syracuse and he has to attend the great NY State Fair every year, I heard he acts like a complete prick every time he goes.

R69 he acts like a complete prick every time he goes anywhere

I'm too lazy to Google. Is it just him and Fredo or are there other siblings?

Today he was being cranky screaming "why are people saying NYC will be in quarantine? Why are they saying lockdown?? Where are you getting these ideas/??"

Ummmmmm we're looking at Hoboken, Newark, SF etc. and seeing what they're doing. Why wouldn't we expect that?

PS Hi YMF! nice to see you again! Hope you are ok!

Thank you Alex/R72

Are Hoboken and Newark on lockdown? I did not know that.

LOL at people mocking Cuomo's NY accent-- Trump's is just as bad and the Flyoverstanis love him. Funny thing too is Cuomo and Trump grew up about a mile or two away from each other, though Trump is about 10 years older. Cuomo also looks damn good for 62-- he is actually the same age as Tom Steyer, who looks much older.

And any enemy of Warren Wilhelm Junior is a friend of mine.

R73 Tom Steyer looks great! I have no idea how old he is but he's slim, trim, masculine and I'd do him in a heartbeat.

R73 I hate Warren Wilhelm and I'm glad Cuomo does too, but this morning he seemed a little unhinged.

Hoboken closed all their restaurants and bars days ago, and last night I think Newark went on 8pm curfew.

He’s got a big Italian dick.

He’s doing a great job right now no doubt. The stay in place thing is bullshit and it’s just DeBlasio trying to make noise and score some points. He gives us the straight information but is also a calming force at the same time. That’s what leadership is.

Also, why say “career politician “ or technocrat like it’s an insult? We’ve tried the other way and it never fucking works. A career politician knows what the fuck they’re doing.

But I don’t think any NY politician Will ever succeed in running for President — not a Jewish or Italian one, anyway. We’ll elect a black (Obviously) or even a woman before a New York “ethnic.” Will never happen in our lifetimes.

I agree with R30 and R31, he's smart and savvy in a New York way.

I agree that Governor Cuomo is good at taking charge, in demonstrating leadership, speaking clearly and fighting for disenfranchised groups. I'd vote for him again as Governor of New York (or as Senator). I think he'd be great and productive in a cabinet position.

That being said, Governor Andrew Cuomo is a real New Yorker, I am too, New Yorkers are great under pressure and on the East Coast, being strong and street smart, however, sometimes we're not the most diplomatic at a national level. Sometimes we don't know when to ease off.

Middle America isn't going to go for Cuomo for president. New York Italians who sound like mafiosos are completely unpalatable to the rest of the country.

As opposed to New York German-Americans who sound AND ACT like [SIC] mafiosos R79?

This thread is about Cuomo r80. He's too New York and too Italian to be palatable to Lurleen Lumpkin in Bumfuckeville, Missouri.

And he’s an asshole

I didn't see his press conference today but a friend told me he looked high and sounded deranged. "Better than Bill de B" is not a high bar to clear and does not mean he's doing a bang-up job of dealing with COVID-19.

AC should have run in 2016; but the field was cleared by DNC for the anointed Queen Hillary Clinton. That and despite his early progressive sucesses as governor of New York (getting SSM passed, etc...) there were a few things people didn't like. So much so DNC was putting out the word "A-B-C" (Anyone But Cuomo). They didn't even want him around at the national convention.

Mr. Cuomo has already begun raising boat loads of money to run for a fourth term in 2022. I personally am stick to death of the guy and think many New Yorkers will want a change. For god sake eight years was enough, twelve too much but sixteen?

Cuomo wouldn't run this year for same reason many other democrats who would have made excellent candidates and POTUS didn't; it is historically very difficult to unseat an incumbent POTUS. Has only happened a handful of times in US history, and why bother? Better to keep one's powder dry and run when current president is term limited out of office leaving a clear field. This more so since vice-presidents in this country no longer seem interested in running for top spot. Yes, know about Biden, but he waited four years after Obama left.

R84 who would you rather see as governor?

At this point would take Bugs Bunny or Daffy Duck!

Am just so tired of the sound of AC's voice, and one can't get away from it either. Like the father AC is bit too much in love with himself and sound of his own voice.

One really had hopes AC would do what he promised his first term; clean up the cesspool that is Albany, but that never happened. Instead it's just same ole system of backroom deals, pandering to unions, etc..

Actually really had high hopes for Elliot Spitzer, and wished he didn't step down, or would run again. Know it is impossible now, but still felt he would have made a great governor.

Think Preetinder Singh Bharara has makings of a good governor; but won't run and can't say I blame him.

Is Andrew Cuomo dating anyone? I know I have Coronavirus goggles...

"Ummmmmm we're looking at Hoboken, Newark, SF etc. and seeing what they're doing. Why wouldn't we expect that?"

Well he does have a point that a shelter in place/lockdown order only makes sense if CT, NY, NJ, PA etc. all agree to do it at the same time. Otherwise half of Manhattan would flee the city and spread the virus to all the surrounding states immediately.

A shelter in place order comes with a built-in exemption for all medical personnel, all police, National Guard members, people who work in television, radio, grocery stores, pharmacies, a large assortment of government officials and workers, and a host of others.

So what's the point? The kind of isolation some people envision is never, ever, going to be possible.

If you're old or infirm, absolutely stay the fuck indoors.

I like him, and those who call him an asshole, he's nothing compared to the dumpster fire we now have

I watch him because he is entertaining in a grotesque way. He is also informative. He explains what we're facing all over this country without a uniform approach coming from the federal gov't. States are all doing their own thing and some are doing it very poorly. When Cuomo illustrates the problem with hard numbers it really brings it home.

When you are facing more than 110,000 victims and you only have 50,000 hospital beds and only 3,000 ventilators, and you understand that aside from corona you also have regular sick people needing acute care, that's a catastrophe. And first responders, medical workers, doctors, etc. all running our of basics like gloves and masks is downright shameful.

I don't like Andrew Cuomo. But I don't mind watching him. He'll never be anything more than a governor. Or a cabinet secretary.

he seems okay to me

I don't know about President but he could urge his brother to sit on my face.

DANG

Cuomos seem like assholes all but Chris is hot

DAM DAMN DAMMN

Will there be "Cuomo Time" on Saturday and Sunday?

Both Andrew & Chris are assholes, each in their own way. Andrew is an overbearing, sanctimonious, arrogant bully. Chris is an insecure, arrogant bully.

Chris is definitely Andrew's bottom bitch.

I wonder of Chris has any body hair?

he's a hairy mary

The New Yawk governah is on TV right now. I agree with whoever said its overkill for CNN to televise his entire press conference, like the whole country lives in New York.

Cuomo Time. Daddy is wearing a governor polo shirt.

Maybe the Democratic party will DUMP Biden the last minute and try to put CUOMO on the ticket.

Biden has almost been invisible these last two weeks.

He is fucking killing it this week. He knows all eyes are on him and is stepping up to it.

The Cuomo brothers are pugnacious, boisterous, stubborn New Yorkers to the core, like Trump is. Trump's aggressiveness plays really well to his core constituency: disenfranchised white people on the right who are at the core haters. Bernie is also of this ilk, and his pugnaciousness plays really well to HIS crowd: also mostly disenfranchised white men who feel the current system has passed them by, and Gebneration Zers who despair of a future.

But the Cuomo brothers are politically moderate Democrats, and outside of new York, that kind of hyperaggressiveness plays really badly. I hadf to turn off the TV the other day because Chris Cuomo (the handsomer and more telegenic of the two) was literally shouting the news about Gavin newsom's stay-at-home order for California; I vowed I would not watch him any more during this crisis. I recognize there is a place for Chris Cuomo on CNN because some people love that aggression, but I do not.

Andrew has had a weird time as governor. He has got tons of things done, because he's smart and he's a bully, but he's also much disliked in Albany because of his hyperaggressiveness. He would be better as a senator for new York than as a governor, and I expect that's where he'll go in the future.

Outside of New York (and New Jersey, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island), hyperaggressiveness is a trait only valued by those who feel so disenfranchised they want someone to scream "Fuck You!" for them to the rest of the world. That's what Trump has done and what Bernie was doing. But I don't think centrist Democrats really want that.

I just watched Andrew Cuomo's news conference. I like him - he gives the facts, he sticks to the script, he gives his opinion, he gives a little pep talk and he talks about social responsibility. Every state needs a leader like him.

R102 - they cover his news conferences because he's stepping up to the plate in a time when the country needs leadership. He's Governor of the state which is suffering the most so what he says matters for EVERYONE. Your state may be next. His hyper aggressive nature gets things done. Do you think if he was a wuss, he would have got Trump to declare NY a national disaster? He probably hounded him daily for assistance and Trump caved.

Cuomo? Has that masculine energy we are looking for in our leaders, particularly right now. Hillary had it and was hated for it. Dump Truck does NOT have it but he speaks their language and knows how to manipulate their little minds and base fears.

This meme is so true.

FWIW, #CuomoForPresident is trending on Twitter right now.

So I am not the only one noticing this.

I’m noticing a lot these days

Cuomo's girlfriend Sandra Lee made a Corona quarantine cake. It's made with angel's food cake, canned apple pie filling and pine nuts. I can't wait to try it.

R114, that looks fucking AWFUL!

No wonder he moved on. Eccchhh.

A New York Italian who looks and talks like a mafioso doesn't have a chance in fucking hell of becoming president of the United States.

So does Chris wax or shave his chest?

[quote] So I am not the only one noticing this.

No one ever said you were the ONLY stupid person in the state/country.

R116- Trump says things like GRAB HER BY THE PUSSY and he's elected POTUS, Cuomo can certainly become POTUS.

Two days after marriage equality became legal in New York State, Governor Andrew Cuomo and Sandra Lee marched at Pride in Manhattan. Not many governors do that. Governor Cuomo fought for us.

sexy muscles

A certain DLer does not like NY Italians.

Does anyone know if The Gov is holding a press conference today (Sunday) or is he taking some time off? If yes, is it at his regular time of 11:00 am?

Watching Cuomo now. He's done well, but he is showboating at this point.

good

Cuomo works on Sunday too. Another stellar press conference. He wants the Federal government to INVOKE the war act (not just sign it, Orange Stupid) so that every state can get the protective equipment they need. If there is competition between the states then there will be price gouging (eg. face masks usually cost 85 cents. If I remember correctly, they were $4 yesterday and today they've gone up to $7). If the government releases their stockpile and orders companies to produce more equipment, it would stop the greediness.

R126 we’re doing more than our share of sacrificing — now it’s time for the Federal government to pull their weight.

The next steps should indeed be coming from them, not asking even more of us. The economy is already sufficiently decimated.

He's been a very good leader during this crisis, but everyone on the #CuomoForPresident bandwagon needs to pump their breaks. Cuomo is one of the most corrupt governors the state of NY has ever had. Trust me, if he ever runs (we guess he'll do it in 2024) so much dirt will come out about this man it'll probably tank his candidacy.

Didn't Giuliani also think that handling a New York crisis competently would propel him to the Presidency?

Rudy ran for president in 2008, so whatever luster he'd had from 9/11 was fading hard at that point.

He was running for the Senate seat that She eventually won, but dropped out when he learned he had cancer.

The GOP was forced to run a no-name second-tier candidate, which is pretty much how She won, setting off a chain of events that led to the Trump presidency.

Well yeah R130 but people upthread are saying he's positioning himself for 2024/2028, by which time as you say this will have been forgotten (hopefully).

He’s an asshole!

But he’s a good asshole.

Well, the "Asshole" got Trump to give him pretty well everything for the state of NY that he asked for. We need more "Assholes" like Gov. Cuomo for our leaders.

Indeed - my hunch is that Cuomo has dirt on dump

Trump has years and years of business dealings in New York State. Andrew Cuomo has all the evidence. He just has to deploy the forensic accountants. Or not. If you get my drift.

Why isn't YourMillennialCunt signing his posts anymore.

He's the OP of this thread.

He is seriously saying this lockdown will last 4, 6, 9 months? There won’t be a single person left that has a job.

This is max sustainable for 2-4 weeks before the world truly implodes. We can flatten the curve but it’s here and we just have to deal with it.

Im glad he’s taken the initiative to push the Fed Government to get us the supplies we need, no doubt he’s the type of leader we needed all along so it didn’t come to this, but that’s absolute lunacy (and suicide) if true. The cure can’t be that much worse than the disease.

He said it could last that long, but he's also already working on a plan to get people back to work as soon as possible without risking their health. You obviously did not see the whole press conference. So chill.

We'll have to make a decision soon. This work stoppage is unsustainable for months on end.

[quote]This is max sustainable for 2-4 weeks before the world truly implodes.

look to italy, my dear

R139 apologies, it is I think the one conference I missed out on (I need to take a break from this shit sometimes), but I certainly hope he can figure something out. Maybe some of the “non-essential” businesses can reopen but have very strict, enforceable capacity restrictions (ie 1/2, 1/3 capacity things like that). And maybe even some others, I’m thinking places like hair, beauty salons, will have to continue by appointment only. Bailouts and government help will still be needed though even if things like that get implemented say 3-5 weeks from now, because the damage is already done.

But what we’re doing now — while short term necessary — is not even remotely sustainable.

Any demo looks presidential compared to the orange cancer.

[quote] But what we’re doing now — while short term necessary — is not even remotely sustainable.

Agreed.

I think this guy's proposal is much more sane than what we are doing now, not that it's going to happen.

Uhhhh.... if people are dropping dead left and right, then NO ONE is going to go back to work.

Until there is either a cure, or at least an effective treatment, then all the officials can do is try to slow the spread. All they can hope for at this moment is not have more people sick at any one time than our fucked up healthcare system can hope to treat.

If you think having businesses closed is disruptive, then think about Lombardy right now. Dead bodies locked into apartments because they haven't the coffins or the time to bury all of them. That's not going to get the family back to Pizza Hut. It just won't.

Indeed - my hunch is that Cuomo has dirt on dump

I was kind of thinking that too; Cuomo just seems like the kind of guy Dump would loathe and mercilessly attack via twitter (sort of like Newsom), yet his response has been muted; Cuomo may be the arrogant tool everyone says he is, but I'd love it if he's got dirt on Dump he's prepared to use.

Already my employer is talking furloughs; I know I'm luckier than most & have leave I can use, but at times I feel genuinely scared about how quickly things are unraveling with no end in sight. I'm considering asking my landlord if I can pay 50% of rent this month before I get to the point that I can't afford to any rent. At this point, I wouldn't mind getting the virus & just dying out right.

ugh, honey, don't say that

R145 dropping dead “left and right!” Dramatic much?? Geez.

r148 has zero clues about how much the shit is going to hit the fan.

The Gays.

They sure loves they drama.

R148, in Italy 651 people died of coronavirus on Sunday. That followed 793 on Saturday and 627 on Friday. That’s left and right to me.

Think of it as one of our mass shootings. 651 shot dead on Sunday, 793 shot dead on Saturday, 627 shot dead on Friday. That’s left and right to me.

Not trying to trivialize this, but how many people die on a regular day? Must be a couple thousands each day, no?

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), there were 2,813,503 registered deaths in the United States in 2017.

So these are bonus deaths, as it were. Above the norm.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), there were 2,813,503 registered deaths in the United States in 2017.

So these are bonus deaths, as it were. Above the norm.

^so ~8000 people die on a normal day

About .01 percent of Italy's total population has died from CV. That's not small, but it's not "left and right," either.

R156, at the rate they are currently dying in Italy, there soon won't be anyone left. Right?

Two Cuomos on CNN right now. Andrew Cuomo calls him Christopher.

Haha Chris just interrupted Andrew for a commercial break and Andrew wasn't happy!