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So do I need to stock up on food and toilet paper etc?

I live in midtown Manhattan. My brother in Oregon says he stocking up food and suggested that I do the same. Should I really be worried and what exactly should I do? I live in a studio.

by Anonymousreply 177March 16, 2020 2:36 PM

Sure

by Anonymousreply 1March 12, 2020 2:57 AM

Whatever’s right...

by Anonymousreply 2March 12, 2020 3:00 AM

Not really. Maybe and try and keep at least two weeks worth of toilet paper on hand...not because it's necessary but because idiots keep hoarding it.

Wholesale supply trucks to groceries/stores aren't going to stop because of a pandemic. Supply lines are fine , at least internally, for the time being. If you buy stuff that comes from overseas, it could be a problem.

It never hurts to have at least 3 to 7 days worth of "rations" in the house...canned soup/tuna/beans/rice/etc in case of emergency but you also don't need to act like a deranged "End of Days Prepper" type and have enough supplies in your small home to last a year. It's just silly.

by Anonymousreply 3March 12, 2020 3:01 AM

I don't know about the stock in actual supermarkets and groceries. I haven't been in over 3 weeks, but Amazon Fresh and Whole Foods are out of stock on almost everything. Every item I usually buy without problems is out of stock. Everyone, is out of rubbing alcohol, I mean Target, Walmart, Costco, Amazon, every small drug store. It's kind of scary.

by Anonymousreply 4March 12, 2020 3:02 AM

YES!!!!!!!

Keep shopping!!!!!!

The more you buy the longer you will live!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 5March 12, 2020 3:03 AM

But why toilet papers? You need your bum clean before passing away?

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by Anonymousreply 6March 12, 2020 3:06 AM

I was in a supermarket tonight in Queens (a borough of NYC).

It did look like it had been hit hard by shoppers but there was still a lot of items on the shelves. The only thing I noticed completely gone was the Clorox bleach cleaning spray that was on sale. All the none sale bleach cleaning items (including just regular old bleach) were there.

by Anonymousreply 7March 12, 2020 3:06 AM

Agree with R3. There are shortages now because some uninformed people are hoarding, believing that suddenly the mega corporations behind Coca Cola, Bounty Paper Towels, Wonder Bread, etc will cease all production. Under what scenario would that occur?

by Anonymousreply 8March 12, 2020 3:07 AM

I live in Seattle aka "Ground Zero" for Covid-19 in the U.S. and the only things that are impossible to get are hand sanitizer and some kinds of cleansers. TP comes and goes. Sometimes, canned soups and rice and beans get picked over but then a delivery truck comes and they re-stock.

by Anonymousreply 9March 12, 2020 3:08 AM

Thankfully, I get a year’s worth of Charmin from Amazon every January.

by Anonymousreply 10March 12, 2020 3:08 AM

It's crazy R4. I've been in my local drug store twice in the last week and they are completely out of Isopropyl alcohol. I have a specific use for it and am almost out. I asked the cashier if they had limited the number people could purchase and she said no. I can just see greedy shits buying 10-20 bottles. So selfish.

by Anonymousreply 11March 12, 2020 3:09 AM

I knew I should have bought and installed the bidet!

by Anonymousreply 12March 12, 2020 3:09 AM

It is interesting how empty many store shelves are .. I was at Costco tonight and it was wiped out.

TP is the least of your worries, you can always wash your dirty ass in the shower. Id buy some shelf stable foods and what youd need to get through an illness, gatorade, etc.

by Anonymousreply 13March 12, 2020 3:09 AM

R8 I'm guessing a lot of these idiots watch those stupid Prepper shows. Or, watch too many "Zombie Apocalypse" or dystopia themed TV shows. OR, think this is like a hurricane or other natural disaster where supply lines can be disrupted for long periods of time.

by Anonymousreply 14March 12, 2020 3:10 AM

I once read an article that said that at any given time, there is only enough food in Manhattan to last 3 days in stores and restaurants - obviously excluding whatever individuals have stockpiled in their own homes.

I don't get the stockpiling of toilet paper. Sure, get enough to last a couple weeks. But honestly, if we're living in such a dire situation that production of toilet paper ends worldwide for an extended period of time, we probably aren't eating enough food to worry about needing toilet paper in the first place.

by Anonymousreply 15March 12, 2020 3:10 AM

R6, Would you like to run out? Toilet paper doesn't spoil, ya know.

by Anonymousreply 16March 12, 2020 3:13 AM

R8, You've heard of the NBA?

by Anonymousreply 17March 12, 2020 3:15 AM

I don't think people should be hoarding but I do think this is misinformed.

[quote] Wholesale supply trucks to groceries/stores aren't going to stop because of a pandemic. Supply lines are fine , at least internally, for the time being.

If this does reach devastating proportions and people are terrified to go to work do you really thing people making minimum wage in a warehouse or driving a truck are going to put delivering toilet paper ahead of their own health?

by Anonymousreply 18March 12, 2020 3:15 AM

The less you eat, the less toilet paper you’ll need.

by Anonymousreply 19March 12, 2020 3:15 AM

I went shopping for a few things tonight and stood in disbelief at the empty toilet paper aisle. I was also surprised at how few paper towels were left. I picked up a package, because I'm out anyway. I'm actually surprised that more people aren't hoarding kleenex, I picked up some extra kleenex, too! I didn't buy too much food, just a case of soup. I'm wondering if I should buy more, but better not yet.

(I was also able to get my hands on 2 bottles of hand sanitizer!)

by Anonymousreply 20March 12, 2020 3:16 AM

Food is for fatties. Just call it a two week "spiritual cleanse". Once the crisis is over, your trim waist will stand out amongst all the hermits. My God, you'll be popular!

by Anonymousreply 21March 12, 2020 3:16 AM

You just want to be sure you have have what you need in the house in case you can’t leave the house, or you don’t want to because everyone else is sick. fill up the freezer with frozen veggies, meals etc. buy some canned goods/pasta etc, get disinfectant, soap,coffee, wine/booze and hunker down. Have Food for two weeks.

by Anonymousreply 22March 12, 2020 3:23 AM

I was thinking about that today. In downtown Manhattan and the Rite Aid shelves are emptying. I don’t really cook and rely on delivery or eating it for everything. I should probably buy food I can store.

In the post-Sandy blackout, it became a problem finding food. But at least you could go uptown to get it.

by Anonymousreply 23March 12, 2020 3:25 AM

Italy still has grocery stores open, but hours are limited, they are only letting in a few people at a time and everyone has to stand in line 1 meter away from each other. I'd rather have stuff on hand if it comes to that. No need to go crazy but I'd definitely like to have enough to last 2-3 weeks.

by Anonymousreply 24March 12, 2020 3:28 AM

The virus can't be contained or stopped, only slowed. Drastic measures will be taken, so prepare as you see fit.

by Anonymousreply 25March 12, 2020 3:30 AM

Of course you could always just buy one of Jim Bakker's apocalypse buckets and call it a day.

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by Anonymousreply 26March 12, 2020 3:30 AM

2 week stockpile tomorrow morning! I have water for a month (Poland Springs delivery) and food for a week ( + toilet paper, hand sanitizer, meds etc from before), but adding another week JIC!

by Anonymousreply 27March 12, 2020 3:32 AM

Buy stock in Charmin!!

by Anonymousreply 28March 12, 2020 3:33 AM

Still the article didn't explain why it must be loo paper when panic-buying can be any goods.

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by Anonymousreply 29March 12, 2020 3:33 AM

[quote] Under what scenario would that occur?

Same scenario that is preventing people from gathering with more than 60 people, maybe? Anyone working in a factory or assembly line will have to stop working.

I'm far from a prepper freak, but this is pandemic and a serious threat. Other things no one is talking about are the aftereffects of the virus. It's just not a simple flu. The new studies out of China show that the majority of Coronavirus patients now out of danger had permanent lung damage.

by Anonymousreply 30March 12, 2020 3:36 AM

[quote] I'm far from a prepper freak, but this is pandemic and a serious threat.

Thank you. I'm so sick of people not taking this seriously.

by Anonymousreply 31March 12, 2020 3:38 AM

Here in London, Granola was sold out, the nice Granola...and spaghetti.

I'd better get some canned milk. I have to have milk in my tea.

by Anonymousreply 32March 12, 2020 3:45 AM

I always liked having a stock of toilet paper. It never "goes bad." It's one less thing to worry about. If you do have to "self-quarantine," you will need a stock of it.

by Anonymousreply 33March 12, 2020 3:57 AM

Sure am glad I got my bidet. Now who's laughing?

by Anonymousreply 34March 12, 2020 3:59 AM

R4, for gawd's sake, just wash your hands with soap and water.

by Anonymousreply 35March 12, 2020 4:00 AM

The reason TP is selling out faster than kleenex or paper towels is because toilet paper is made to break down after you flush it. Kleenex -- especially the 'soft' kind -- is coated with chemicals that ABSORB water and can actually clog your toilet.

by Anonymousreply 36March 12, 2020 4:02 AM

You have to plan ahead.

Amazon isn't 'out of everything', i.e. food, paper products. They're running out of stuff because more are shopping online, but all that means is their Prime Pantry delivery is taking 3 days instead of 2 hours.

by Anonymousreply 37March 12, 2020 4:04 AM

[quote] If this does reach devastating proportions and people are terrified to go to work do you really thing people making minimum wage in a warehouse or driving a truck are going to put delivering toilet paper ahead of their own health?

Exactly. It’s amazing to me how people think things get to stores. They get there by people who barely make a living wage driving dangerous trucks. And they’re stocked by people making less than a living wage in stores. And if illness sweeps through the poor and working poor in this country, your “supply lines” will collapse like a bad soufflé. And trust me, these people who work at Walmart and deliver your Amazon packages DON’T GiVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU or whether you can fill your fat mouth or wipe your stupid ass.

Goddamn people are so fucking arrogant and DUMB in this country.

by Anonymousreply 38March 12, 2020 4:08 AM

I have never ever prepped before. This has me scared. I just can't shake the feeling. I have got a good stockpile going of non perishables and household stuff I use anyway.

I am going to get some "additional" supplies tomorrow. Namely, some baseball bats and 2 machetes. Oh, amd door jambs!

If this blows over fine. I will donate what I do not need to a local pantry. I do plan on keeping any weapons because I really do think I should have had this crap on hand before.

by Anonymousreply 39March 12, 2020 4:08 AM

I was going to order a book on the Arts & Crafts designer Ernest Gimson from Amazon, it just recently came out, do you think they will still have it in stock?

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by Anonymousreply 40March 12, 2020 4:17 AM

I like the door jambs idea ... and the machete ...

by Anonymousreply 41March 12, 2020 4:18 AM

R40 is my kind of guy!

by Anonymousreply 42March 12, 2020 4:25 AM

I think I'm going to buy a box or two of gloves tomorrow, which ones are better guys: latex or vinyl? I'm planning on keeping a box in my car to avoid touching things at the gas station, but I'm sure they'll come in handy in other ways.

I hope I'm overreacting, but now I'm not so sure.

by Anonymousreply 43March 12, 2020 5:47 AM

Nail on the head, R38. I've lost count of the number of utterly clueless people who romanticize a widespread quarantine or lockdown, saying they'll just order their supplies from Amazon and their meals from GrubHub.

by Anonymousreply 44March 12, 2020 5:51 AM

Just-in-time ordering and the globalization of trade means that supply lines could very well be severely affected by a pandemic. the poor will suffer first, of course

by Anonymousreply 45March 12, 2020 5:55 AM

Bitches took all the beans and rice from my store! I stocked up on pasta, tuna, soup, canned veg, and granola bars.

by Anonymousreply 46March 12, 2020 5:57 AM

I steal jumbo size rolls of commercial toilet paper from my office's bathrooms (I have for years) so I'm good. Haven't purchased regular tp in at least a decade.

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by Anonymousreply 47March 12, 2020 6:42 AM

I’ve been buying a little extra food/cleaners/etc every week since late January so I’m stocked up for two months. Officially done going out to any stores now that I have my booze stash.

by Anonymousreply 48March 12, 2020 11:02 AM

Also, get a bidet. This American obsession with toilet paper is bizarre.

by Anonymousreply 49March 12, 2020 12:36 PM

The Brits are going nuts for TP as well.

by Anonymousreply 50March 12, 2020 12:41 PM

OP, Manhattan is NO place to be when an airborne contagion is freely circulating.

Save your money. Don't buy extra toilet paper. Apply the funds to getting out of Manhattan for the duration.

by Anonymousreply 51March 12, 2020 12:56 PM

R32, You know there is shelf-stable milk in cartons, right?

by Anonymousreply 52March 12, 2020 1:03 PM

I’d stock up, OP. I’ve been seeing shortages for about a week now. Big box stores like Costco don’t have toilet paper and they’re rationing water. There’s almost no cleaning supplies at all. Peroxide will do, if you can’t get Lysol or similar. But it needs to be fresh.

I just got a notification from CNN saying Trump’s speech last night didn’t reassure anyone and people are really panicking now. Also, the fact that Tom Hanks and his wife got it means people are waking up.

I don’t know exactly why, but yesterday, hours before Trump’s speech, I got the impression something had changed. People on the news were acting scared. I think there’s some news that just came out yesterday that’s scaring the shit out of new anchors. Jake Tapper had some expert on yesterday and he kept asking the guy, are the figures really that bad, should people really worry? The guy wouldn’t back down at all and Tapper seemed really surprised.

If you don’t have much room, at least get tuna, peanut butter and jelly and crackers, cans of soup and chili, and some spaghetti and tomato paste and stewed tomatoes or chopped tomatoes. If you have Italian seasoning, parsley, salt and pepper, and some frozen vegetables, you can make some different things. Pick up some eggs, oatmeal or hot instant breakfast cereal, and juice concentrate. Put the cans under the bed, the grains in the freezer or cupboard, and you’ll have the basics if worse comes to worst. And try to get some toilet paper if you see it because a lot of places are out.

If you can’t find items, try the more upscale markets they are better stocked than Walmart and Costco now. Gas up the car, there were long lines yesterday. It’s my understanding that Auto Zone may have hand sanitizer, I haven’t checked for myself yet.

I think after Trump’s speech, people are really going to panic today.

by Anonymousreply 53March 12, 2020 1:03 PM

[quote][R32], You know there is shelf-stable milk in cartons, right?

I guess "shelf-stable" is the American for "long life". I rather like it.

No, I didn't. Never had a need for it.

I'll check it out later...when I pick up my eBay bedspread from Argos.

& thank you.

Better get all these things done now.

by Anonymousreply 54March 12, 2020 1:52 PM

I’ve made the decision to get out of NYC. It’s impossible to avoid regular contact with a lot of people and everything you touch has been touched by a ton of other people. Seems like cities should be prime breeding grounds for infection - but have seen no studies or analysis of urban vs rural areas impacted. In any case, self-isolating in the country for a week or two.

by Anonymousreply 55March 12, 2020 2:03 PM

How much booze do you have in your booze stash, r48? Just curious. WE have a case of wine in the basement and that is about it.

by Anonymousreply 56March 12, 2020 3:47 PM

The reason I'm not shaking hands with anyone isn't because of the virus. Its because everyone is out to toilet paper.

by Anonymousreply 57March 12, 2020 4:02 PM

[quote]Also, get a bidet. This American obsession with toilet paper is bizarre.

I lived in Germany for 8 years and have traveled to many other European countries, Asia, Canada, Mexico, etc. Only once do I ever remember seeing a bidet in a private home in Germany, and I certainly don't recall seeing them in public in other countries. Squat toilets were common in Asia but bidets - never. Germans have weird shelf toilets where you are forced to scrub your shit away. Is that more hygenic? I doubt it. Where do you come from if you think TP is just an American thing???

by Anonymousreply 58March 12, 2020 4:10 PM

There’s no need to stick up on TP.

by Anonymousreply 59March 12, 2020 4:15 PM

[quote]R32 Granola was sold out, the nice Granola...and spaghetti.

But can you get [italic]good[/italic] olive oil?

by Anonymousreply 60March 12, 2020 4:20 PM

I have a ton of that, Ina - thanks to you.

by Anonymousreply 61March 12, 2020 4:33 PM

Tip: for milk, look for Nestle Nido. They don't actively *market* it in the US, but Walmart always has it (sometimes, in the 'Hispanic' or 'Ethnic' food aisles). It's powdered whole milk that tastes like aseptic/Parmalat milk when reconstituted... not as good as 'normal' milk, but ENORMOUSLY better than the "nonfat dry milk" that normally gets sold in the US. I always keep a can around for times when I accidentally run out of milk since you can make as little or as much at a time as you like. It's also handy for turning milk into cream if a recipe calls for it & you don't have any... just add it to regular milk, or use more powder.

I discovered it after Hurricane Wilma, when I had to live out of ice chests for 2 weeks (ie, could keep stuff sort of cold, but doing it *reliably* was a LOT of daily work). For breakfast, I'd put ice & water in a glass (only as much ice as would completely melt after stirring), add Nido, mix, give it ~10 minutes to reconstitute, add more ice for final chill, and eat breakfast without having to worry whether the milk spoiled overnight.

Tip: it NEEDS ~10 minutes to fully reconstitute... but once it does, it tastes just like normal shelf-stable milk from aseptic boxes.

by Anonymousreply 62March 12, 2020 4:40 PM

Don't forget to stockpile food & litter for your kitties. If YOU get sick (not necessarily badly), you won't be in any mood to forage through empty shelves for cat food & litter... and if you end up incapacitated or dead, whomever has to care for your kitties will be even LESS willing to do it. If you show signs of visible illness, you might be denied entry to stores.

Most cat food has a 2 year + shelf life, so buy 2 or 3 months' worth. Litter has basically no meaningful set expiration date, so buy even more.

Don't forget any medical supplies they might need, especially needles. Keep an extra fluids bag if it's cheap & your kitty uses them. If supplies end up rationed, veterinarians will probably get the short end of the stick, so stockpiling is even MORE urgent if your cat has a chronic condition.

by Anonymousreply 63March 12, 2020 4:50 PM

[quote] I think there’s some news that just came out yesterday that’s scaring the shit out of new anchors.

Maybe it's this: Congress' in-house doctor is predicting 70-150 million U.S. coronavirus cases, or about a third of the population.

Right now, the World Health Organization says the mortality rate is 3.4%. So that would mean about 2 to 5 million deaths in the U.S. Even if the mortality rate is only 1%, it would mean anywhere from 700,000 to 1.5 million deaths.

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by Anonymousreply 64March 12, 2020 4:54 PM

Thanks, R62 . I had been looking, anyway, for some shelf-stable creamer for my coffee. I'll look for this Nestle Nido.

by Anonymousreply 65March 12, 2020 5:22 PM

I went to my local supermarket when they opened this morning at 5am, hoping to take advantage of the restocking that usually occurs overnight.

Nope. First thing I looked for was the shelf stable milk. Gone.

Peanut butter was just the fat free stuff that tastes like cardboard. Pass.

All instant oatmeal gone.

And the only TP left was that recycled paper stuff that nobody likes.

by Anonymousreply 66March 12, 2020 5:37 PM

I went to the post office this morning which is adjacent to a nearby Costco, which doesn't open until 10 a.m. It was an hour before opening and the parking lot was completely full. I thought that they had maybe opened earlier, but the doors were still closed. The line to get in wrapped around the building TWICE.

All those people that were laughing at other people stocking up last week are now waiting in that line.

by Anonymousreply 67March 12, 2020 6:47 PM

I always have some bottled water.

But people are stocking up for a zombie apocalypse that's not going to happen. Costco was a fucking madhouse today: no parking in their entire lot and the lines for registers extended to the back of the warehouse.

I have NEVER seen it this busy and horrendous. It was Christmas x 5. When the CDC or Trump says something, people become hysterical.

by Anonymousreply 68March 12, 2020 7:13 PM
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by Anonymousreply 69March 12, 2020 7:20 PM

Yes, this thing is highly contagious.

Yes, people will die. But not as many as they are making it out to be.

Yes, the global economy will be hurt, but rebound.

People hoarding toilet paper need to calm the fuck down.

by Anonymousreply 70March 12, 2020 7:23 PM

Buy a fresh loaf of bread and put it in your freezer. When you need it, it wil thaw in a couple hours. Stiff soft and tasty.

by Anonymousreply 71March 12, 2020 9:19 PM

Most truck drivers make a lot more than minimum wage. And, if the pandemic is bad enough that enough people are sick that it shuts down supply lines or water and electric systems, then, yes, we are fucked.

But, even at its worst, in China and Italy, that hasn't happened. Because the situation IS bad but it's not like all the idiotic TV/movies you're all apparently watching. There's absolutely ZERO need to have 3 months of tp in your apartment or a closet or garage full of bottled water.

by Anonymousreply 72March 12, 2020 9:27 PM

It's too late, OP

by Anonymousreply 73March 12, 2020 9:33 PM

China got on top of it right away though.

The US.. not so much.

by Anonymousreply 74March 12, 2020 9:35 PM

People are forgetting to stock up on wood or something to burn in order to keep warm.

by Anonymousreply 75March 12, 2020 9:37 PM

Who would have thought China would have gotten their shit together over this better than the US

by Anonymousreply 76March 12, 2020 9:38 PM

R76 It's not a surprise. Totalitarian regimes are very good at organizing. And, the people are conditioned to obey any and all orders immediately.

by Anonymousreply 77March 12, 2020 9:42 PM

[quote]the mortality rate is 3.4%. So that would mean about 2 to 5 million deaths in the U.S. Even if the mortality rate is only 1%, it would mean anywhere from 700,000 to 1.5 million deaths

Heart disease already kill 650,000 people a year and if some of those people get coronavirus and die directly from it instead, they would have died anyway. So the real number will be how many additional deaths on top of the number already expected from other causes.

by Anonymousreply 78March 12, 2020 9:45 PM

Truck supply lines shutting down and cargo ships not arriving (as they already are not, 3/4 of traffic in LA Port is GONE) are a totally different situation from water and electricity shutting off, you fucking moron. No one thinks that water or electricity will be shut off except for the Trump loons who are being ignored, like you should be with your stupidity.

by Anonymousreply 79March 12, 2020 9:46 PM

r55 That is what the wealthy did to avoid the plague in the middle ages. If I had money and a ranch in the middle of nowhere I would go there too...

by Anonymousreply 80March 12, 2020 9:59 PM

I need to buy a new vacuum cleaner because mine's breaking apart. They're all manufactured in China so I know there will be a shortage/price explosion soon. But I don't feel like going outside.. Same with my coffee grinder. If mine breaks I'm shit out of luck and you know these fuckers will cost 100€ in two months..

by Anonymousreply 81March 12, 2020 10:28 PM

The shelves and pantry in my condo is already over stocked with stuff like tomato sauce, pasta, peanut butter, canned tomatoes, olives, broth, beans, rice, canned fruit, tuna fish, soup, granola bars, dry pasta, etc... and my freezer is always packed with frozen vegetables, so I'm good. Though I may start stocking up on some concentrated frozen juice in cans.

The only things I would generally go out to buy right now are some bulk packs of fresh meat (like chicken thighs ground beef, pork chops, etc...), packaged lettuce/salad mix, eggs, and packaged bread.

by Anonymousreply 82March 12, 2020 10:59 PM

[quote]Same with my coffee grinder.

I've had the same coffee grinders (one is for spices) for 40+ years. I expect them to outlast me.

by Anonymousreply 83March 12, 2020 11:01 PM

Do people grasp that the stockpiling of food etc. is so you have stuff to live off if you get sick, and (responsibly) self quarantine for 4 - 7 (?) weeks?

It’s not so we can become shut-ins NOW.

by Anonymousreply 84March 12, 2020 11:05 PM

I stocked up on mini muffins today. I got blueberry & chocolate chip. This should last us a while.

by Anonymousreply 85March 12, 2020 11:11 PM

[quote] I've had the same coffee grinders (one is for spices) for 40+ years. I expect them to outlast me.

Oh but mine is a basic 9€ electric one. I know it will break down eventually or cause short circuits or something. I just need a spare.

by Anonymousreply 86March 12, 2020 11:17 PM

I just shopped and it was hilarious b3cause the store was full of old white men! I don’t know why they decided they need to shop, because it was obvious they didn’t know how to do it. They had their carts all katty womp in the aisles. They had their trucker hats & baseball jackets on, looking all confused. It’s like when I go to the cancer franchise and there are old white men there blinking in confusion because they never varied their schedule for 40 years & all of a sudden they’re somewhere totally unfamiliar & they don’t know what to do.

by Anonymousreply 87March 12, 2020 11:17 PM

"It’s not so we can become shut-ins NOW. "

If you live alone and test positive you need to do just that immediately. In some countries your ass can get arrested if you defy quanrantine.

by Anonymousreply 88March 12, 2020 11:18 PM

[quote]It’s like when I go to the cancer franchise

The what?

by Anonymousreply 89March 12, 2020 11:19 PM

It's kind of amusing where I live currently (NE Ohio), because it's the brand name items that are sold out specifically. You could walk into a Family Dollar or Dollar General, and the Purell brand hand sanitizers will all be sold out, but there are plenty of off brand hand sanitizers on the shelves. Same goes with stuff like toilet paper - Charmin, gone, but store brand "1000 sheets per roll" type, they're stocked full of them.

by Anonymousreply 90March 12, 2020 11:20 PM

In SF could not get the proper 60-70% alcohol over the last 2 days. no wipes; out of empty spray bottles. using the 90% stuff that I didn't want to use (not as effective).

by Anonymousreply 91March 12, 2020 11:22 PM

Why is 90% not as effective?

by Anonymousreply 92March 12, 2020 11:32 PM

[quote]R88 If you live alone and test positive you need to do just that immediately. In some countries your ass can get arrested if you defy quarantine.

I think we’re talking about the same thing. I said one’s supply is for when one gets sick. (By which I mean, with or without a positive diagnosis.)

by Anonymousreply 93March 12, 2020 11:32 PM

Thanks R71! I was wondering what to do with my extra bread

by Anonymousreply 94March 12, 2020 11:33 PM

You never thought to freeze bread?

by Anonymousreply 95March 12, 2020 11:35 PM

[quote]R87 it’s like when I go to the cancer franchise

[quote]R89 The what?

Might have meant “candle franchise “ ?

by Anonymousreply 96March 12, 2020 11:35 PM

JEALOUS BITCHES- I have a 32 ounce bottle of CVS brand Hand Sanitizer with Aloe Vera in my house that I bought in 2019 or 2018.

by Anonymousreply 97March 12, 2020 11:39 PM

R95, depending on the size of your freezer, bread takes up a lot of space.

by Anonymousreply 98March 12, 2020 11:39 PM

If you have a vacuum sealer even better. Your bread will last forever!

by Anonymousreply 99March 12, 2020 11:44 PM

No, R97 because I have 5 of them I got in 2018 on clearance for $.50!

by Anonymousreply 100March 12, 2020 11:44 PM

R56 I bought 10 bottles of cava, 2 bottles of cab, a 12 pack of light beer, vodka, gin, diet tonic & diet ginger beer and a few squeeze limes.

R97 & r100 I have 2 32 oz target sanitizers I bought 90% off about 5 years ago! Yay us!

by Anonymousreply 101March 12, 2020 11:54 PM

There are going to be a lot of fat, diabetic, alcoholics when this thing is over!

by Anonymousreply 102March 12, 2020 11:56 PM

R101 you're my kind of people.

Especially after reviewing your posting history.

by Anonymousreply 103March 12, 2020 11:56 PM

R100- You didn't pay fifty cents for 32 ounces of hand sanitizer.

by Anonymousreply 104March 13, 2020 12:14 AM

Yes, I did, R104. Sounds like you're the jealous one!

by Anonymousreply 105March 13, 2020 12:16 AM

Actually, R104, I have to correct myself. I just checked the bottle size. It wasn't 32 ounces it was 56 ounces.

No you're REALLY jealous!

by Anonymousreply 106March 13, 2020 12:18 AM

Still waiting to hear back from R87 about the "cancer franchise". The suggested explanation of "candle franchise" doesn't really make sense to me either.

by Anonymousreply 107March 13, 2020 12:48 AM

I'm in LA and people were out in droves at the Ralph's acting like it was the end of the world. People were fighting over parking spots. It was life affirming.

by Anonymousreply 108March 13, 2020 2:10 AM

And this is why I did my survivalist provision shopping last week. Nothing on the shelves in Manhattan.

by Anonymousreply 109March 13, 2020 2:31 AM

I live in Yonkers, the supermarkets are sold out of water. Not certain why, it's not like there's a drought.

by Anonymousreply 110March 13, 2020 2:32 AM

During this time of crisis, it's a comfort to know that the overbuying of toilet paper bringz so many different culturrs together.

by Anonymousreply 111March 13, 2020 3:09 AM

Okay, bitches. I'm officially paranoid. After work today I bought a ton of shelf stable food. I think I'll be good for 2 weeks, for sure. I did try to make sure to buy food I'd actually eat ANYWAY.

I hope my workplace tells us to stay home. About half of my job can be done remotely and half has to be on-site. Fingers crossed.

by Anonymousreply 112March 13, 2020 6:01 AM

[quote]After work today I bought a ton of shelf stable food. I think I'll be good for 2 weeks

Why would it need to be shelf stable? Is it to stock the food shelf next to the couch in your TV room?

by Anonymousreply 113March 13, 2020 6:08 AM

"And this is why I did my survivalist provision shopping last week. Nothing on the shelves in Manhattan."

Oh for Christ sake, I loathe this mentality. Every bodega and non-franchisre supermarket has a ton of food, normal crowds, and PLASTIC BAGS!

by Anonymousreply 114March 13, 2020 11:14 AM

R113, So it lasts longer than fresh and takes up no freezer room?

Two weeks. Hmmmm. Entities and venues might be saying NOW that they might re-open, admit audiences, and return to business as usual then, but that's simply the equivalent of saying "We'll see."

Better to be prepared to stay home, strictly at home, for a couple months at least.

Like, even if you caught C-V today, were tested, treated, isolated, and cured in two weeks, would you really want to go grocery shopping or to concerts, work, or school afterwards? When you probably didn't know how you first got infected?

I'd be paranoid, frankly.

by Anonymousreply 115March 13, 2020 11:58 AM

R86 = racist person of color. Shame on you.

by Anonymousreply 116March 13, 2020 12:08 PM

R114, It's not just the running out of food; it's also the running out FOR food and putting oneself amongst who knows whom.

C-V has infected an NBA player; Mrs. Trudeau; the Hankses; government officials of Iran and Brazil who had contact with Trump, Pence, Ivanka, Cruz ,and Barr; doctors, students, policemen, and so on.

But it can't get you, right? Because you can buy food at a bodega.

by Anonymousreply 117March 13, 2020 1:58 PM

My timing for most things is usually very bad, but I lucked out this time.

Just by chance I shopped last week and early this week before the hysteria really hit. Not because of the virus but because I was running low on some things (tp for one) and just stocked up as usual.

As for hand sanitizer I realized I had a bottle that I bought some time ago just sitting near my computer.

I was out this morning to drop off some things in the library return and the local grocery store lots were very busy.

The speed that these quarantines have gone into effect - I find it all stunning.

I had a conversation yesterday with someone who explained the idea behind "Flattening the Curve" and how important it is to work to prevent a huge spike in cases that could overwhelm the medical system, meaning less equipment (fewer respirators, for example) for the real cases.

Well worth looking at if you haven't seen it.

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by Anonymousreply 118March 13, 2020 8:05 PM

Hmmmm....never said I thought water/electric WOULD get shut off. I was referring to the IDIOTS who are stockpiling bottled water when there's no need to stockpile bottled water.

So many dumb mother fuckers have issues with reading comprehension.

by Anonymousreply 119March 13, 2020 8:57 PM

R119, We are in uncharted territory. Maybe tomorrow experts will declare the virus thrives in fresh water.

Kidding on the square.

by Anonymousreply 120March 13, 2020 9:00 PM

What the actual fuck? Are they going to stop making toilet paper?

smh

by Anonymousreply 121March 13, 2020 9:20 PM

Where does all that toilet paper come from?

Oh, China.

Well, it's not like there going to be any reason for delays there or here.

by Anonymousreply 122March 13, 2020 10:26 PM

^that's crap

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by Anonymousreply 123March 13, 2020 10:34 PM

Stores are crazy town now! This weekend will be worse. So glad I am done for two weeks (then Fresh Direct)!

by Anonymousreply 124March 14, 2020 12:34 AM

So US centric!

by Anonymousreply 125March 14, 2020 12:43 AM

You are a fucking moron R119. Every time you open your trap you get stupider and stupider. Just shut up. Blocked.

by Anonymousreply 126March 14, 2020 3:52 AM

I tried to order a grocery delivery here in LA. It’s at least a three day wait!

by Anonymousreply 127March 14, 2020 5:59 AM

Went to the grocery store this afternoon and besides TP and hand sanitizer, the only two other things they were out of were POTATOES and ONIONS.

ONIONS. And another friend on Facebook who lives in Minnesota said the same thing. They had potatoes, but no onions.

by Anonymousreply 128March 14, 2020 6:05 AM

How about BONIVA? Is anyone having trouble getting BONIVA?

by Anonymousreply 129March 14, 2020 6:07 AM

The stockpiling of goods and sundries will turn the economy around.

by Anonymousreply 130March 14, 2020 6:11 AM

I'm actually a little surprised that people who live in places like LA, FL, and various cities on the East Coast with severe weather, don't already keep some sort of emergency stockpile.

Hopefully those stockpiling now will keep whatever they don't use on hand for a future emergency.

by Anonymousreply 131March 14, 2020 7:05 AM

Oh, my heart.... I've been BLOCKED!!!!!

The horror....

by Anonymousreply 132March 14, 2020 8:41 AM

For [R92] The lower % alcohol is better at sanitizing because the 90% evaporates too quickly. I have it on good authority, the source of which escapes me now.

by Anonymousreply 133March 14, 2020 11:39 AM

Avoid elevators. They are are the perfect environment for this flu to linger for days. Buttons, metal walls and air!

by Anonymousreply 134March 14, 2020 1:42 PM

[quote]Avoid elevators. They are are the perfect environment for this flu to linger for days. Buttons, metal walls and air!

What if you live hgh up in a fancy tower in NYC ?

Danger + Gurl?

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by Anonymousreply 135March 14, 2020 2:06 PM

I can't believe the run on toilet paper. How much are you people shitting? One 4 pack lasts me months.

by Anonymousreply 136March 14, 2020 2:14 PM

In Florida, there's now a shortage of cat litter, too... at least, the normal midrange kind. All Petco had left was wood/newspaper pellets, silica gel, the exotic & expensive stuff that's $25+/15lbs, and the cheapest shit nobody ever buys because it either turns into a cement slab, absorbs poorly, or stinks to hell after one dump.

by Anonymousreply 137March 14, 2020 5:23 PM

I think the stores will restock. I went to Target today and they had quite a bit of toilet paper, when a few days ago, they had none. It can't hurt to get some cans of tuna, soup, pasta and frozen vegetables.Freeze a loaf of bread. I ordered cat food from Chewy's last week and still haven't gotten it. They are terribly back up, so I picked up enough cat food at the store for the week. The shelves are still bare in the soap, hand sanitizer and household cleaner sections, though.

by Anonymousreply 138March 14, 2020 5:38 PM

The bakery was out of my favorite lemon jelly donut with powdered sugar this morning.

I had to get glazed.

Is this what it will be like???

by Anonymousreply 139March 14, 2020 6:37 PM

People are insane. A friend just came back from the store this morning and said he witnessed a disgusting altercation. An older man had a pack of TP in his car and when he turned around to get something else, some younger guy rolled up and took it out of his cart. The older man tried to get it back and altercation broke out. The police had to be called.

by Anonymousreply 140March 14, 2020 6:54 PM

[quote] f. I was referring to the IDIOTS who are stockpiling bottled water when there's no need to stockpile bottled water.

Lots of people have well water that is contaminated with chemicals/insecticides and the don’t drink it or cook with it. They buy gallon bottles of water. They might be afraid they will get sick & be unable to get to the store or be afraid their store might close due to sick workers.

by Anonymousreply 141March 14, 2020 7:39 PM

Yes, lots of people IN THE COUNTRY have well water...not fucking suburbanites who apparently think we're having about to have a hurricane or a zombie apocalypse.

by Anonymousreply 142March 14, 2020 7:43 PM

Again, in places like CA and those prone to tornadoes, floods, and other natural disasters, why don't these people already have a supply?

by Anonymousreply 143March 14, 2020 7:49 PM

No, we are still laughing at the people waiting in line to line to get into Costco and then panic buying toilet paper. Bunch of lemmings.

by Anonymousreply 144March 14, 2020 7:57 PM

The air in Costco will damage them more than the lack of TP.

by Anonymousreply 145March 14, 2020 7:59 PM

R119, I keep a few gallons of distilled water on hand because I use a CPAP machine and need it for that. I don't stock pile shit like individual bottles of Aquafina though, just the cheap 99 cents per gallon stuff. I do however fill my empty distilled water gallon containers with tap water for emergency use, like when the water goes out in my building and it takes them hours to fix it - you can't flush a toilet with no water. You can't cook without clean water.

by Anonymousreply 146March 14, 2020 8:12 PM

I have 8 - 5 gallon jugs of Poland Spring for my water dispenser. I am so glad I over-ordered - for once, and did not cancel my delivery service!

by Anonymousreply 147March 14, 2020 8:22 PM

Again, not sure why everyone thinks water supplies are in grave danger but...whatevs rocks your boat!!!

by Anonymousreply 148March 14, 2020 8:33 PM

In partial defense, some places in Florida (esp. SW Florida) have city water that tastes like literal ass... Fort Myers is so bad, you need bottled water to brush your teeth without gagging, and it affects the taste of food. Filtering helps, but it still tastes bad. But that's more a need for cheap gallon jugs of water from publix, vs literal 16-20oz bottles. Still, if you needed enough to last a month for cooking & toothbrushing, I could see buying 8-12 gallons.

by Anonymousreply 149March 14, 2020 8:48 PM

If it becomes an apocalypse, I'll go trout fishing.

by Anonymousreply 150March 14, 2020 9:13 PM

R149 And it's spring run-off time in many areas with snow. I know a lot of people who hate drinking my city's water during the spring, because of the cloudiness/pungency.

by Anonymousreply 151March 14, 2020 9:18 PM

I’m in a suburb & I have well water.

by Anonymousreply 152March 14, 2020 9:19 PM

The stores need to impose limits on items that are being hoarded and post signs stating that only X amount will be sold to each customer. Apparently, we can't trust each other to share -- who raised these selfish shoppers?

by Anonymousreply 153March 14, 2020 9:20 PM

My mother & several of her siblings were in Central FL and the water smelled like rotten eggs, even with a water filtration system. I hated showering there and everybody drank bottled water.

by Anonymousreply 154March 14, 2020 9:20 PM

^^^^.

They weren’t “in the country.” There were tons of suburban developments in town after town.

by Anonymousreply 155March 14, 2020 9:21 PM

R136, Females need to wipe more often than men, get it?

by Anonymousreply 156March 14, 2020 9:28 PM

The french health departement recommend against using ibuprofen and choose paracetamol instead, did you get that info already? I don't remenber seing it on the internet before?

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by Anonymousreply 157March 14, 2020 9:30 PM

r140 paper products are out of stock everywhere in the stores near me. The shelves were picked clean.

I am marveling at how fucked up people are, as someone suggested, stores should not let people hoard. Everyone needs the essentials, it's really fucked up.

by Anonymousreply 158March 14, 2020 9:37 PM

[quote]The air in Costco will damage them more than the lack of TP.

Ok, get back to us when you're wiping your ass with COFFEE FILTERS!

by Anonymousreply 159March 14, 2020 10:08 PM

The sour TP-less bitches need to get a $30 bidet on amazon. Life changing!

by Anonymousreply 160March 14, 2020 10:11 PM

Nobody’s washing their twat with cold water

by Anonymousreply 161March 14, 2020 11:05 PM

[italic]I NEED A TONGUE BATH!

by Anonymousreply 162March 14, 2020 11:31 PM

My husband has made himself garlic bread every evening (not offering me any or even making enough for me). He has an asshole friend who’s obsessed with all-natural remedies. His friend starves himself and runs 10 miles a day on a treadmill so he won’t have to take a statin to lower his cholesterol. I’m sure this guy has told him to eat garlic to fend off cv19. As if it’s a vampire.

by Anonymousreply 163March 14, 2020 11:37 PM

What's a brand name that's available in America? The story doesn't refer to Tylenol.

by Anonymousreply 164March 14, 2020 11:47 PM

R164 is for R157, re paracetamol.

by Anonymousreply 165March 14, 2020 11:53 PM

Why are you married to such an asshole R163, when he clearly doesn't care enough if you die?

Every store I've gone to since a week and a half ago has set limits in water and paper goods.

by Anonymousreply 166March 14, 2020 11:54 PM

[quote] Why are you married to such an asshole [R163], when he clearly doesn't care enough if you die?

Exactly. You get married and make tons of compromises. You expect that, when the shit hits the fan, that person you got married to will be there for you.

by Anonymousreply 167March 15, 2020 12:11 AM

But you aren’t even tossed a leftover piece of garlic bread, in the end - -

by Anonymousreply 168March 15, 2020 12:27 AM

[quote]R163 My husband has made himself garlic bread every evening (not offering me any or even making enough for me)....I’m sure this guy has told him to eat garlic to fend off cv19. As if it’s a vampire.

You need to put jellybeans in pill vials, maybe even water in syringes. Use these when he thinks YOU think he’s not looking. Then hide them well.

And leave cryptic, barely audible phone messages when he’s in the next room. “But why was [italic]I[/italic] chosen??.... Do they know I’m a couple? ...uh-huh ...No, I’m not selling them to anyone .... they got HOW much???.... Right. I understand. I won’t.”

When he asks about all this, avert your gaze, and finally sputter that you were selected to test a new... nail strengthening product. Then rush off for a drive.

by Anonymousreply 169March 15, 2020 12:46 AM

[quote]R137 In Florida, there's now a shortage of cat litter, too

People won’t need that, after they eat their cats.

by Anonymousreply 170March 15, 2020 3:55 AM

I think you may want to leave Manhattan itself.

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by Anonymousreply 171March 15, 2020 4:03 AM

[quote]plenty of off brand hand sanitizers

From China?

by Anonymousreply 172March 15, 2020 4:05 AM

My supermarket is still out of rice and beans. Today they were also out of eggs, potatoes, and meat. They are reducing hours and will be open 6 A.M. -11 P.M.

by Anonymousreply 173March 15, 2020 4:32 AM

All Ralph's in Palm Springs went to 8 to 8. Tried to just go shopping. Winco was always 24 hours. Now closed. Opens at 7.

by Anonymousreply 174March 15, 2020 6:20 AM

R164 apparently acétaminophène is paracetamol, you can take tylenol, but follow the instruction, you can still overdose on that stuff.

by Anonymousreply 175March 15, 2020 9:50 AM

I want to hear more from the poster whose husband hates him so much that he is only saving his own ass by only preparing one portion of garlic bread.

by Anonymousreply 176March 16, 2020 6:16 AM

R55, make sure you send Muriel a forwarding address so we can find you!

by Anonymousreply 177March 16, 2020 2:36 PM
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