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'It's not like flu': Doctor's warning to those underestimating coronavirus

It’s a dismissive comment uttered, sometimes without much thought, among circles of friends or on social media.

But as the coronavirus reaches a critical point outside of China, simply passing off coronavirus as a ‘flu-like’ outbreak is a naive move, doctors and virologists have warned.

In Italy in particular, where the country’s health system has been stretched to its limit with an outbreak of more than 10,000 cases, the impact of the virus is not to be underestimated.

In a now-viral tweet, one woman in northern Italy warned the country had made a “big mistake” in the lead-up to the outbreak in the European epicentre which has sent its death toll soaring beyond 600.

“Please, please guys. Here in northern Italy we made one big mistake. Everybody kept saying: ‘It’s just flu’ and now our intensive care units are collapsing,” 23-year-old Bianca, from Lombardy, tweeted.

“Everybody kept going outside like nothing happened and now our grandparents and parents are dying.

“Coronavirus is not flu.”

And in a lengthy post on Facebook which has since been shared 32,000 times, Dr Daniele Macchini who is on the frontline of the coronavirus fight in the Italian city of Bergamo, revealed the devastating effect the virus is having on the health system.

“The war has literally exploded and battles are uninterrupted day and night,” he said.

“The need for beds has arrived in all its drama. One after the other the departments that had been emptied fill up at an impressive pace.”

He said the virus must not be likened to the flu.

“Explain to me which flu virus causes such a rapid drama. And while there are still people who boast of not being afraid by ignoring directions, protesting because their normal routine is ‘temporarily’ put in crisis, the epidemiological disaster is taking place,” he said.

As the virus continues to spread in more countries, Professor Ian Mackay, virologist and associate professor at the University of Queensland, has warned the virus must not be underestimated.

Speaking to Yahoo News Australia, he said many people he comes across daily refer to coronavirus as “just another flu” without seeing it as a “big risk”.

“It’s hard to stress how bad this could be if we don’t take it seriously.”

He noted how “advanced” medical teams in countries where the outbreak has soared have been forced to make the decision on whether patients live or die due to a lack of beds or staff to cope with “the sheer overwhelming number of sick people.”

“We’re seeing the virus spread and cause a lot of severe disease and while it’s not death, it’s still severe disease and it’s tying up a lot of healthcare resources. That’s not what we see every year from flu,” he said.

In recent days Italian media has broadcast footage of ICU units overflowing with patients, with the current situation labelled by Professor Mackay as a “cautionary tale”.

Weeks before, the plight of medical teams in Hubei, the original epicentre of the virus, was widely documented as staff worked day and night in their fight against the outbreak.

Last week, the World Health Organisation chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus specifically warned the coronavirus outbreak shouldn’t be compared to the flu.

“This virus is not SARS, it’s not MERS, and it’s not influenza. It is a unique virus with unique characteristics,” he said.

Tedros reiterated that COVID-19 causes more severe disease than seasonal influenza.

“While many people globally have built up immunity to seasonal flu strains, COVID-19 is a new virus to which no one has immunity,” he said.

“That means more people are susceptible to infection, and some will suffer severe disease.”

He noted the current global mortality rate sits at 3.4 per cent while seasonal flus sit at less than one per cent.

Tedros praised the work of countries working to contain the virus, such as Australia where a cluster of cases has occurred in Sydney’s northwest.

“We don’t even talk about containment for seasonal flu – it’s just not possible. But it is possible for COVID-19,” he said.

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by Anonymousreply 21March 12, 2020 4:04 PM

“It will prevent infections and save lives. Containment is possible.”

In a report on coronavirus issued by WHO in February, treating the virus as the flu will only cause further deaths.

“Building scenarios and strategies only on the basis of well-known pathogens risks failing to exploit all possible measures to slow transmission of the COVID-19 virus, reduce disease and save lives,” the report said.

by Anonymousreply 1March 11, 2020 11:39 PM

Most of these cases in Italy are largely in senior citizens. Among the general public under 60 problems are actually not all that common.

by Anonymousreply 2March 11, 2020 11:41 PM

[quote] In a now-viral tweet, one woman in northern Italy warned the country had made a “big mistake” in the lead-up to the outbreak in the European epicentre which has sent its death toll soaring beyond 600.

[quote] “Please, please guys. Here in northern Italy we made one big mistake. Everybody kept saying: ‘It’s just flu’ and now our intensive care units are collapsing,” 23-year-old Bianca, from Lombardy, tweeted.

[quote] “Everybody kept going outside like nothing happened and now our grandparents and parents are dying.

Reading this is scary and sobering.

It's kind of what people are doing in the U.S. right now.

If it ever does hit a critical stage in this country, people will be dropping like flies, and the morgues will be over flowing.

It's no laughing matter.

by Anonymousreply 3March 11, 2020 11:44 PM

I don't think containment is possible. The cat is already out of the bag!

by Anonymousreply 4March 11, 2020 11:45 PM

And there will be no funerals for the dead, either, after friends and relatives haven't been able to visit them in the hospital. It will be traumatic for survivors.

by Anonymousreply 5March 11, 2020 11:46 PM

About 30% of the population of America is over 55 r2, you are speaking of a huge number of people.

by Anonymousreply 6March 11, 2020 11:53 PM

Man with coronavirus: 'I have had the flu before but I ain't never felt this bad'

A man in Rome, Georgia, said he was initially sent home after he went to the hospital with flu-like symptoms and later tested positive for coronavirus.

Clay Bentley told ABC News on Wednesday that on March 1 he sang in the more-than-100-member choir at the Church at Liberty Square in Cartersville, Georgia.

Bentley said he went home after church and woke up Monday morning, feeling so sick he went to urgent care in Rome, Georgia. When they checked his vitals, he said, his oxygen levels were really low and he was sent to a hospital.

"I was so weak that I couldn't even stand up," he told ABC News.

At Redmond Regional Medical Center, the medical staff ran additional tests on him for the flu and pneumonia but he said the tests all came back negative.

"Then they asked me if I had been out of the country," he recalled, "and I told them 'No.' ... So they sent me home, and over the next four days, I got really bad. ... I called the hospital Friday morning. ... [I said:] 'I'm not getting any better. ... I don't know what I'm supposed to do.' So they told me to come back to the hospital. And, that's when they saw it was really bad."

When he returned to the hospital, he was tested for coronavirus, and the test came back positive.

"I just assumed I had the flu," said Bentley, who described his symptoms as "basic flu-like symptoms," including no energy, difficulty breathing, body aches, chills and fevers.

His adult son, a police officer, has been quarantined at home along with his 4-year-old grandson, whose school was also shut down, Bentley said.

Bentley is currently quarantined in the hospital.

"I have had the flu before, but I ain't never felt this bad," he said.

He said he'd been told that seven or eight people in the choir were in the hospital.

In a letter to its members shared with ABC News, the Church at Liberty Square said that it had learned on Wednesday from the Northwest Georgia Department of Public Health that there were "two confirmed positive cases" of coronavirus among people who'd attended Sunday morning services in the last two weeks.

The church told its members that it was immediately sanitizing its campus according to guidelines from the Environmental Protection Agency and would be canceling Wednesday services. The church said it would resume normal Sunday services.

"On a personal and pastoral note, my heart goes out to all those affected by this illness and any illness going around. Please know that God is with you, and we will get through this together. This is not a time for panic and fear, but rather a time to be wise and trust in our loving and faithful God," said senior pastor Jacob King.

Bentley told ABC News his wife had not been tested for coronavirus but that she was being quarantined at home for two weeks. He said she was told to go home because she wasn't displaying symptoms.

"I've been around her the whole week," he said. "They have not tested her, and I don't understand."

Although Bentley said doctors were giving him breathing treatments and antibiotics, he expressed frustration over the hospital sending him home when he first came in.

"If they had tested me for coronavirus when I first came to the hospital, I wouldn't have got in such bad shape before they were able to start helping me," he said. "They let me get to the worst that I could possibly get before they started trying to help me."

"Redmond Regional Medical Center has protocols in place to care for patients with infectious diseases, and we have been working diligently to ensure we are prepared for potential issues related to COVID-19. ... We are following infection prevention protocols for COVID-19 patients, including isolation, to help ensure the safety of our colleagues, patients and visitors, and we continue to work closely with the CDC and the Georgia Department of Public Health," said spokeswoman Andrea Pitts in an email to ABC News.

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by Anonymousreply 7March 12, 2020 12:10 AM

Hope everyone gets better and soon.

by Anonymousreply 8March 12, 2020 12:54 AM

But I [italic]wanna[/italic] believe it's the flu 'cause I don't like [italic]worrying[/italic]!

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by Anonymousreply 9March 12, 2020 1:12 AM

Someone get Rita Wilson to give us a blow-by-blow account!

by Anonymousreply 10March 12, 2020 5:26 AM

[quote]“This virus is not SARS, it’s not MERS, and it’s not influenza. It is a unique virus with unique characteristics,” he said.

Excellent example of media-fueled hysteria. Every virus is unique, with unique characteristics. That's why it's called a virus, rather than a syndrome.

by Anonymousreply 11March 12, 2020 5:52 AM

Great. Is there even going to be an election this year?

by Anonymousreply 12March 12, 2020 6:03 AM

Of course, R12.

If worse comes to worse, we can still do mail-in voting.

by Anonymousreply 13March 12, 2020 6:07 AM

R13 I'm talking about Trump declaring martial law.

ALSO, is it true that most of these deaths have been 80 and 90 year olds? I'm almost back to not worrying. Sorry to be insensitive but the image of morgues overflowing HERE with 80-90 year olds doesn't seem plausible. We already have the capacity.

I'm not working myself into a panic from the hand sanitizer queens here. I just want the truth about who is and isn't dying.

by Anonymousreply 14March 12, 2020 6:12 AM

It's irresponsible for the media to scare the public by posting headlines about 200 people dying in a day from this virus and neglect to mention that most of them are in their 80's and 90's and near or even substantially over their life expectancy.

by Anonymousreply 15March 12, 2020 6:20 AM

And here I was about to barricade myself indoors. You guys really had me. Drink some more hand sanitizer.

by Anonymousreply 16March 12, 2020 6:23 AM

Muriel is the poster of this thread. Only someone with superpowers could request the special clearance necessary to leave posts 30ft in length. And of course it makes sense....

Am I CLEAR YET?

Can I have my goodie bag BEFORE I become a Thetan?

Can I at least have the score card and slim jim from it?

I should get some kind of prize...

by Anonymousreply 17March 12, 2020 6:27 AM

I have yet to read what the exact symptoms are.

by Anonymousreply 18March 12, 2020 9:21 AM

What if someone gets it and they don't have health insurance?

They're saying please don't come to the ER?? Uh, ok.

by Anonymousreply 19March 12, 2020 9:37 AM

For R18 (and everyone else who is curious).

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by Anonymousreply 20March 12, 2020 10:04 AM

That's exactly what I was wondering, R19.

by Anonymousreply 21March 12, 2020 4:04 PM
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