The current TP crisis has me thinking... is using "family cloth" really such a bad idea after all? I know that when my parents were babies, my grandparents used cloth diapers. Is this really any different?
"Family cloth" aka non-disposable cloths for ass wiping
by Anonymous | reply 61 | March 12, 2020 1:15 AM |
I was musing about this the other day and have to say I think the resources used to wash the cloth toilet paper well enough to be reused safely would far outweigh the resources used for making paper TP. That's a lot of soap, water, and electricity to get that stuff clean.
by Anonymous | reply 1 | March 11, 2020 12:36 PM |
I love it. It’s pretty easy to get used too. You just toss the used cloths in the basket 🧺 until your next trip to the laundromat. Even guests get used to it pretty easily. Last time I had a dinner party, this one guest kept asking for toilet paper until I showed her how it works. Now I begin every party with a tour and detailed instructions.
by Anonymous | reply 2 | March 11, 2020 12:38 PM |
You let your guests come in and #2?
by Anonymous | reply 3 | March 11, 2020 12:40 PM |
Very Roman
by Anonymous | reply 4 | March 11, 2020 12:40 PM |
R1 I think most of the families who use the cloth TP own bidets as well. That's the only way I would ever use cloth TP, at least.
If you're washing your ass with soap and water after going #2 and then just using the cloths to blot dry with, the cloths could just be washed as normal laundry (no need for any special protocol).
by Anonymous | reply 5 | March 11, 2020 12:41 PM |
No parties for me at R2's house. "What would you like to drink? Here's a cloth if you need to take a crap."
by Anonymous | reply 6 | March 11, 2020 12:42 PM |
[quote]You let your guests come in and #2?
Not come in. Sometimes I ask them to do it in the garden since I’m trying to be green and compost.
by Anonymous | reply 7 | March 11, 2020 12:42 PM |
Sounds great!
by Anonymous | reply 8 | March 11, 2020 12:44 PM |
[quote]That's a lot of soap, water, and electricity to get that stuff clean.
Why does it have to be that clean? You’re only using it to wipe your ass, the dirtiest thing ever. It’s like saying you need a clean cloth to mop the dirty floor.
by Anonymous | reply 9 | March 11, 2020 12:46 PM |
I would consider using them but I could never save the filthy things and actually put feces covered cloths in my washing machine. I'm very squeamish about filth so I'd have to throw them away after each use which would obviously go against the reason for using them.
by Anonymous | reply 10 | March 11, 2020 12:47 PM |
No. Even as the only person living in the house. No way.
by Anonymous | reply 11 | March 11, 2020 12:49 PM |
I’d rather have a bidet, but thanks for playing.
by Anonymous | reply 12 | March 11, 2020 12:49 PM |
Why can’t you put them in your washing machine? You already put your shitty underwear in your washing machine.
by Anonymous | reply 13 | March 11, 2020 12:50 PM |
As a “family cloth”, would we all take turns sharing the same cloth?
by Anonymous | reply 14 | March 11, 2020 12:51 PM |
On the rare occasion, there is “shitty underwear” it is thoroughly hand washed and rinsed before it is include with other articles.
by Anonymous | reply 15 | March 11, 2020 12:53 PM |
^tossed in the garbage
by Anonymous | reply 16 | March 11, 2020 12:56 PM |
^^clearly buys discount under garments.
by Anonymous | reply 17 | March 11, 2020 12:58 PM |
R15 underwear that's been worn for a day has microscopic shit particles from your farts and from coming in contact with your ass after you've gone #2.
by Anonymous | reply 18 | March 11, 2020 1:01 PM |
Negligible
by Anonymous | reply 19 | March 11, 2020 1:02 PM |
[quote] Why can’t you put them in your washing machine? You already put your shitty underwear in your washing machine.
First of all I don't defecate in my underwear. And whatever microscopic "residue" there is in my underwear is a far cry from a big blob of fecal matter smeared on a piece of cloth.
by Anonymous | reply 20 | March 11, 2020 1:03 PM |
I'll never put shit in my washing mashine. Or collect shitty cloths. Honestly just the thought makes me nauseous. Only way I'd consider it would be for wiping a thoroughly rinsed ass after using a hand held sprayer. With good water pressure.
by Anonymous | reply 21 | March 11, 2020 1:04 PM |
And yeah, if shitty underwear ever happens, it goes straight into the garbage for me too.
by Anonymous | reply 22 | March 11, 2020 1:06 PM |
What a waste. What if it’s really expensive 2Xist or Christian Anderson underwear?
by Anonymous | reply 23 | March 11, 2020 1:10 PM |
[quote][R15] underwear that's been worn for a day has microscopic shit particles from your farts and from coming in contact with your ass after you've gone #2.
Exactly. Just because you can’t see it doesn’t mean you’re not already putting shitty underwear in your washing machine every day.
by Anonymous | reply 24 | March 11, 2020 1:12 PM |
There's a difference between putting your funky panties in a washing machine and a shit stained cloth used to wipe your ass with. I would provide a picture to demonstrate the difference but it might arouse the scat queens that are no doubt circling this thread
by Anonymous | reply 25 | March 11, 2020 1:21 PM |
There is literally no difference. There is just visually a difference because you can see shit on one and not the other but they are both the same otherwise.
by Anonymous | reply 26 | March 11, 2020 1:24 PM |
Which would you rather rub your nose in? My worn underwear or my “family cloth”?
by Anonymous | reply 27 | March 11, 2020 1:27 PM |
OMG, I love you R25. LOL!
by Anonymous | reply 28 | March 11, 2020 1:28 PM |
The difference is the 100,000,000,000% increased quantity of shit particles that are now being thrown in with your wash and clinging to the material necessary to withstand washing. Try to keep most of that in the bowl as a general hygiene rule.
by Anonymous | reply 29 | March 11, 2020 1:29 PM |
R23 I don't wear expensive underwear but even if I did I'd rather lose 20 bucks than have to wash a visibly shitty underwear. Couldn't change my baby nephew's diaper or take care of the cat's litter without gagging, so maybe I'm a bit more squeamish than the norm, but that kind of stuff grosses me out.
by Anonymous | reply 30 | March 11, 2020 1:39 PM |
Hell no!!!!
by Anonymous | reply 31 | March 11, 2020 1:40 PM |
In the olden days (Roman Enpire), we used this with a bucket of water and vinegar. So refreshing!
by Anonymous | reply 32 | March 11, 2020 1:43 PM |
Shit troll is getting creative.
by Anonymous | reply 33 | March 11, 2020 1:45 PM |
I've used the flushable wet wipes instead of dry toilet tissue in the past, but I stopped after it turned out that the reality is that they're not as flushable as the manufacturers would have you think. I do still keep a dispenser of baby butt wipes available for those times I feel I need a more thorough cleansing (down there) after I've used the dry tissue. But they get placed into a lidded waste paper bin next to the toilet.
by Anonymous | reply 34 | March 11, 2020 1:47 PM |
As long as the family cloth is used ONLY for its intended purpose (i.e., never mixed up with the dish cloths) and as long as the cloths stay true to their name and is only used by permanent members of the household (I'm assuming R2 was just joking but you really don't want to share with outsiders, because that's where the real risk of pathogens and disease comes from), the practice is generally considered perfectly safe.
by Anonymous | reply 35 | March 11, 2020 1:47 PM |
“Perfectly safe” doesn’t make them more desirable than other “perfectly safe” options.
by Anonymous | reply 36 | March 11, 2020 1:53 PM |
R34 that lidded waste paper bin should be set on fire 🔥
by Anonymous | reply 37 | March 11, 2020 1:59 PM |
The woman who wrote the article says she recommends not keeping the soiled cloths over 2 days. Who is going to run their washing machine every 2 days. I certainly wouldn't put the filthy things in with my regular washing. So the savings in toilet tissue vs the much greater expense in the electricity & water usage from running a washing machine every 2 days makes the whole idea ridiculous in my opinion.
by Anonymous | reply 38 | March 11, 2020 2:01 PM |
And I don't even want to think what the bin she uses to put dirty family cloths in smells like every time she pops the lid to put another one in.
by Anonymous | reply 39 | March 11, 2020 2:03 PM |
What a shithouse!!
by Anonymous | reply 40 | March 11, 2020 2:04 PM |
[quote]I could never save the filthy things and actually put feces covered cloths in my washing machine
I learned once when I accidentally put a cat blanket in the laundry that had poop stuck to it that poop does not easily wash off. It turned into little poop balls in the machine and I had to get my long grabbing tool (for when you drop nuts and bolts while fixing a car) to get them out. It didn't just dissolve.
by Anonymous | reply 41 | March 11, 2020 2:09 PM |
Is the family cloth used for “bad accidents”?
by Anonymous | reply 42 | March 11, 2020 2:11 PM |
Dear god.
You scat enthusiasts are having a field day with the toilet paper "crisis" that's happening - a built-in, completely normal sounding reason to be talking non-stop about this.
by Anonymous | reply 43 | March 11, 2020 2:14 PM |
The guy who gets all "J'accuse!" about who may or may not be a scat troll is more tiresome than the actual scat troll ever was.
by Anonymous | reply 44 | March 11, 2020 2:16 PM |
Daddy taught us from a young age that there’s no need for TP or wash clothes unless they are ripe with fudge! We love fudge. Thank you daddy!
by Anonymous | reply 45 | March 11, 2020 2:16 PM |
This is for sure gonna be the #poopknife of 2020.
by Anonymous | reply 46 | March 11, 2020 2:26 PM |
[quote]The guy who gets all "J'accuse!" about who may or may not be a scat troll is more tiresome than the actual scat troll ever was.
As I haven't accused anyone of it as far as I can remember, there is clearly more than one of us who thinks that some folks are way too enthusiastic about all things scat.
by Anonymous | reply 47 | March 11, 2020 2:28 PM |
Disgusting. Why not use just water like half the planet.
by Anonymous | reply 48 | March 11, 2020 2:30 PM |
I suppose you want us to be soccer playing socialists like half the world too.
by Anonymous | reply 49 | March 11, 2020 2:35 PM |
Don’t mix the family cloth with the formal cloth napkin place settings!
by Anonymous | reply 50 | March 11, 2020 2:40 PM |
Many of our mothers used cloth diapers and did in fact wash them in the family machine. Nothing bleach and hot water wont kill. That being said , the thought repulses me and on the rare occasions when I have a little accident , I throw those underwear in the garbage with out a second thought .
by Anonymous | reply 51 | March 11, 2020 3:11 PM |
For those wondering about cloth diapers, they didn’t put the shit-covered diapers directly in the washing machine. The standard procedure was to rinse the solids off in a bucket or in the toilet, the.n they were put in the machine and washed.
by Anonymous | reply 52 | March 11, 2020 3:25 PM |
Dear god the smell of the shit covered butt wipes sitting in the open air would be disgusting. The only people doing this already live in a ashram in a hippie cult in Northern California, so why not just venture into the woods and take a shit in your backyard and use a handful of leaves to wipe with!!!
by Anonymous | reply 53 | March 11, 2020 3:31 PM |
That's why you have a dog!
by Anonymous | reply 54 | March 11, 2020 9:59 PM |
Yes R52 I well remember when my oldest niece was a baby 55 years ago. When she had a loaded diaper my sister would take it to the toilet and dunk it over and over until the diaper was just stained, but no longer loaded. She did use a diaper service though. They came twice a week to deliver clean nappies and pick up the soiled ones.
by Anonymous | reply 55 | March 11, 2020 10:09 PM |
[quote]As a “family cloth”, would we all take turns sharing the same cloth?
Well, duh. What do you think family cloth means? It’s brought my family so much closer together.
by Anonymous | reply 56 | March 11, 2020 11:49 PM |
R55 many, many decades ago when my grandmother was diapering my father and his siblings, she would clean them using this method:
Much like you describe, she would use the toilet to rinse off freshly loaded diapers, sometimes letting the diaper sit in the toilet water for a little bit to give the solid waste a chance to soften/dissolve. Then she would use the metal log grabber tool from the fireplace to hold the soiled diaper with and then flush the toilet until there was nothing but a stain.
After using the fireplace tongs to transfer the diaper to a bucket that she used just for this purpose. Then she would then put on rubber gloves and scrub the diaper with a bar of laundry soap, a scrub brush and a washboard (again, all designated just for diapers) in the laundry room sink, rinse and wring it out, and then hang it up on a specially designated clothesline separate from the clothesline used for the rest of the laundry.
This was like an intermediate stage during the cleaning process; the diapers still weren't clean enough to be reused, but at this point they were at least clean enough to not smell. By hanging them up on the line, that way there wasn't a laundry hamper filled with damp, stinking diapers.
Once there were enough diapers in the intermediate stage hanging on the clothesline (every two weeks or so), my grandmother would then boil them all in a huge metal pot/cauldron thingy that was mounted in the backyard. After that, they were hung up on the regular clothesline with the rest of the laundry, allowed to dry, then folded and stored in a diaper basket.
Pretty labor-intensive (like most women at the time, my grandmother was a housewife), but it worked well.
If I was going to use "family cloth" I would probably clean them using a similar method.
Unfortunately, many modern-day fabrics aren't durable enough to withstand repeated boiling.
by Anonymous | reply 57 | March 11, 2020 11:52 PM |
Yes, boiling them in a big stock pot is recommended. We always had two burners going for that purpose while the other two burners were boiling dinner.
by Anonymous | reply 58 | March 12, 2020 12:07 AM |
I saw a video years ago showing the process diaper delivery services used to go through to clean the soiled nappies. They had huge industrial gas washing machines that produced flames to heat the wash water so hot steam would come out of the edge of the doors while the things were washing diapers. Obviously infinitely hotter than anything a home hot water tank could produce. Those nasty stained diapers all came out white as snow.
by Anonymous | reply 60 | March 12, 2020 1:08 AM |
[quote]as long as the cloths stay true to their name and is only used by permanent members of the household (I'm assuming [R2] was just joking but you really don't want to share with outsiders, because that's where the real risk of pathogens and disease comes from), the practice is generally considered perfectly safe.
This is why you can’t use a diaper service. It’s unsafe to use cloths outside of the immediate family.
by Anonymous | reply 61 | March 12, 2020 1:15 AM |