5 Men Catfished into jerking off and taking steroids on camera by drag race contestant posing as a casting director

Oh, dear.

I like him more now!

Look at the fucking nose on it!

The shoot lasted three to four hours, Lillyman said, as Gugliemelli continued to offer direction. According to Lillyman, Gugliemelli suggested eventually he take off his shirt, flex, and even strip down to his underpants in order to get into character. “He was trying to get me to go further,” said Lillyman. “He kept saying it’s not quite right.”

Then, Lillyman said, Gugliemelli suggested he go into the bathroom and masturbate in order to feel more macho. Reluctantly, Lillyman obliged. He was desperate for the part. Other actors had done more for less, he reasoned.

When he emerged, Gugliemelli suggested he do it again on camera. It was only the casting director who would see it, Lillyman thought. Again, he did as he was told.

“I did everything he asked be to because at that point he had built up so much detail for the show that I was truly convinced it was real and associated with HBO,” said Lillyman. “It took a lot for me to break that delusion. I was willingly doing all the things he was asking me to.”

[quote] I was truly convinced it was real and associated with HBO,” said Lillyman.

Mary!

A man in a dress turns out to be an unhinged, depraved lunatic? Hmmm....

LOL yeah right, REAL VICTIMS they are

Wow these are very serious allegations lol

He only had to apologize? If this were in Singapore, he would be caned 10 times and imprisoned 10 years at Changi Prison! What a hideous old fat fart.

Whose dumb enough to fall for that "casting director" bs in this day and age. A person you've never met is asking you to send videos of you jerking off and sniffing your armpits for an 'acting role' .. yeah nothing suspicious about that.

I don’t want to “Victim blame” but how stupid

The shoot lasted three to four hours,

boy sure was full

The article doesn't say any of them took steroids

Sing it brother! Do let the world know that you've got the IQ of a billiard ball. You might get an acting gig out of it.

R8 = Miss Gloria Allred

r13 Right, I think a lot of people are misreading that they were acting like they had taken steroids and growing larger. Clearly Miss Pie has a gaining fetish

I've seen Catfish vids of hot, young straight guys not only showing hole, but actually shitting for what they believe is a woman. Dumb asses.

"I've seen Catfish vids of hot, young straight guys not only showing hole, but actually shitting for what they believe is a woman. Dumb asses."

Surely you have exquisite taste.

[quote] Whose dumb enough to fall for that "casting director" bs in this day and age.

Oh, dear: multiple choice.

Great that he apologized but he's mentally ill and must be removed from that show and public platform. I mean, SCAREY MENTALLY ILL and dangerous.

So where are the vids of them jerking off? I'm just curious.

Are we sure he's a drag queen? Because that is transgender level crazy.

[Quote]must be removed from that show

You think the show is live or something? It was filmed a long time ago, you can't kick someone off.

Another queen this season (Brita) has been accused of trying to suck off a sleeping guy while shoving poppers up his nose, before proceeding to shun him socially. The nerve of some people! You just can't find a good class of drag queen these days

Ah good point on my stupidity. But they should edit him down and obviously if he lasted any length of time, it's a shitstorm. What he did was criminal and anyone of those victims could pursue it if they weren't so embarrassed. j

He is rumoured to have gone very far this season.

Oh well. What a class act. But don't they wait to film the last episode or two, to see how social media reacts to the developing competition?

Yes, the final 4 are still in the competition with no winner chosen yet. Sherry made top 4 and is rumored to be top 2 in terms of performance this season.

I wouldn’t be surprised if production was pushing for their first big girl and now this happens. The curse of Mimi Imfurst.

People fall for the casting director scams, because that’s the way some real casting directors work. Jennifer Lawrence owes her career to a nude-photo taking casting director.

I can’t stand apologies that include excuses and “poor me” scenarios!

Well Ru through throw this queen off the final competition and the show and be cunty about it. I'm sure production is checking legal to see how to do just that.

R29, that’s not true!

She would never do that!

What next? You gonna accuse her of sucking Weinsteins tiny deformed dick in order to win an Oscar?! You are outrageous with such accusations. Please stop.

I think it would be great for ratings for him to be thrown out of the competition at the live finale taping. It would bring some freshness to a stale format and also solve their little PR problem.

[quote]A man in a dress turns out to be an unhinged, depraved lunatic? Hmmm....

Well......

This is why they hate us.

It sounds like something Jack McFarland would do on the original W&G.

The scariest part of this story is that people believe being an RuPaul's Drag Race is a way to cure mental health issues.

OT, sorta: When did drag queen makeup get so crazy with the non-blended shades and 40-pound lashes?

Was it Trixie Mattel who made it all the rage? I know Jackie Beat was doing before but didn't have the TV fame.

I knew a queeny Armenian guy in high school who used to do this in the old AOL chatrooms/IM/AIM days. His name was like HoTsLuT18 and he would show me all of the dick pics he would collect. LOL. Fun times.

[quote] What he did was criminal and anyone of those victims

Criminal? Hardly. Catfishing someone is not criminal.

[quote] He was desperate for the part. Other actors had done more for less, he reasoned.

Sure, Jan!

I would be MORTIFIED to discover I had masturbated for a drag queen!

[quote]In dozens of emails provided to BuzzFeed News by Shimkus, he and Mossie discuss in great detail a character in a supposed upcoming play called Bulk which was said to center around a man named Jeff taking steroids to put on muscle. Shimkus was told the role would involve wearing a series of bodysuits as the character grew larger and larger. He was repeatedly assured producers were interested in him and that he would be paid $900 per week and put up in housing in New York City if he landed the part.

Shimkus was sent dozens of questions to answer over a series of emails as part of tests to see whether he understood the character. “What Would you feel like if you had that size? What would you like? What wouldn't you like? Are any Jeff tendencies or ideas coming to your mind?” read one email.

“Why do you think Jeff stops using deodorant in the show? Would you enjoy seeing and hearing the seams of your clothes stretch and even rip as you grow?” read another

I have never, nor would I ever, work that hard for nudes.

Why does it seem like there are a disproportionate number of predators/scammers/deadbeats to come out of drag race than any other show on television?

[quote] He was desperate for the part. Other actors had done more for less, he reasoned.

All of mine got their parts solely based on their merit as thespians.

"Why does it seem like there are a disproportionate number of predators/scammers/deadbeats to come out of drag race than any other show on television?"

It's because you're a gay-hating idiot who has never heard of a hit TV show called The Bachelorette.

r46 There is only one gay idiot I hate right now

Aaron, r47?

1) Sherry Pie is a sexual predator.

2) These guys are dumb.

These are not contradictory statements. Point two does not invalidate point one.

It's telling how the apology doesn't have a direct apology to the victims, but does have one to the other drag queens on the show, the production crew and the network

An apology perfect for a narcissist.

[quote] Why does it seem like there are a disproportionate number of predators/scammers/deadbeats to come out of drag race than any other show on television?

I think it's because drag is a skill that doesn't really require an education - most acting challenges reveal that many of the queens are borderline illiterate. Pair that with the instability of drag as a career choice, and that most of the work is in the bar scene surrounded by drink, drugs, and hangers-on. They're up there with rappers and porn stars for being messy and famous.

R52 I know this firsthand: A LOT of Drag Race's alums are (or have been) HEAVILY into drug use.

I do feel bad for all the guys he tricked, and I normally never like to throw shame at victims, but seriously how stupid do you have to be to fall for this? I know people in the acting world do DESPERATE things for roles, but this is just sad...

[QUOTE]I think it's because drag is a skill

I don't grant your premise

An openly gay man victimized openly gay men.

Oh no, who will Datalounge hate???

Both the victimizer and the victims, of course!

She's been DISQUALIFIED! Gasp!

“In light of recent developments and Sherry Pie’s statement, Sherry Pie has been disqualified from RuPaul’s Drag Race," a spokesperson for VH1 and production company World of Wonder said in a statement to BuzzFeed News.

That's good. But it would have been more fun to string her along, the cunt, and throw her off during the taping of finals, on camera.

Mimi Imfurst and Silky Ballbag Ganache have both had sex-pest stories about them before as well. It's all the big girls.

I am surprised she was DQed. So RPDR has a moral clause a la Vanessa Williams/Miss America?

Well, she, he, yeah. What he did is gross and sick. It's definitely immoral and predatory and I stick to my assumption that some of what he did is probably illegal. He had to be DQd. Some of those victims should make some trouble for him. His apology is crap.

Some of his victims need to grow a few brain cells. I can't believe some people can be so naive and Pollyanna. How does one reach their mid-20s that way?

Why no nude pics or video yet?

[quote]I am surprised she was DQed. So RPDR has a moral clause a la Vanessa Williams/Miss America?

Of course she was DQ'ed from winning. It was a given as soon as this story broke that there was no way the show could crown her.

Ehhh, this show was better when it used to be filled with queens who did some time in the slammer and queens' drag names boasted about their heavy narcotics use.

It all depends on what you are getting in trouble for r65. Blair was in the middle of legal trouble for her DUI during her season and the show didn't give a damn.

But this is different, this isn't some naughty partying. This is very creepy behavior that the show can't look past.

It's basically #metoo and we know how shrill RPDR's audience is about that and cancelling.

I'm sure some of the past RPDR winners have probably catfished some stupid bros for cock and ass pics in the past.

Who could have imagined SUNY Cortland could muster up such depravity? Back in the day Drag Race was ex-cons, Pageant and Ball rough trade, and dissipated Seven Sisters types.

All of it seems like a lot of work. All the baiting emails and such by Sherry Pie. All the content produced by the guys who responded.

Is there a crime to be charged with? The false job offer seems like it should be, and fraud

[quote] Is there a crime to be charged with? The false job offer seems like it should be, and fraud

R71, I’d like to hire you as my personal assistant.

Ya know what, on second thought after reviewing your qualifications, I changed my mind.

Crime?

I actually don’t see what’s so wrong with this. In my friends group, straight men are a challenge to conquer. We share stories of how far we can go with them, whether it be flirting, eye contact, touching, or actually sucking their cocks. My best friend actually gets a lot of straight action by going to our local highway truck stop which has “pay by the minute” showers. Straight men are prey to be hunted. We never force them to do anything, we just lay the trap!

R73 yeah that sounds healthy and not rapey at all. Hope none flip the fuck out. Seriously, you're playing with fire. There's a reason women are careful around straight men. They know it just takes one to flip his shit.

R72, changing your mind is one thing, having no actual job to start with is another. And pretending to represent an Equity theatre company and possibly damaging their reputation

R73 is why they hate us

Welcome to hollywood, boys! I feel more sorry for these naive country bumpkins than I do Harvey's girls. Weinstein's accusers knew what they were doing.

I condole you, victims.

I tried to worn y'all, but nooooooooo!

I've had R73 on ignore for a long time. After hovering and seeing the comment, I see I have good judgement.

To be honest, when this story broke, one of the first things to come to mind was "she'll probably become a DL icon".

Nah. Someone who looks like Sherrie reminds DLers too much of themselves.

R79 - why would you put me on ignore and miss out on my professional writing? I’m amazed and disgusted at how closed-minded some people are. Read my posts and take them with a grain of salt if you wish, but know that I am a degreed professional that writes for a living. You will be missing out on some insightful content if you block me!

[quote] Back in the day Drag Race was ex-cons, Pageant and Ball rough trade, and dissipated Seven Sisters types.

It was better for it back then, too. Now drag queens are supposed to be role models and paragons of virtue for their teenybopper fanbase... That's not what I look for in a drag show.

[quote] I feel more sorry for these naive country bumpkins

Where do these people come from that they move to NYC or LA and they are so sheltered and ill-prepared to deal with the realities of some other people not having their best interests in mind/trying to take advantage of them?

Apparently Drag Queens now embody "love" because of RuPaul's Oprah-esque pop psychology babble. And that's why they need more trans, nonbinary, and female drag queens, according to one of the drag queens whose name I forget. Because they're LITERALLY DYING!

P. T. Barnum was right, and who knows if I could be that dumb to fall for such a scam. Still, are you that stupid that you are going to masturbate because a "casting agent" tells you to? At that point, wouldn't you question whether this was on the level?

R73, who is straight in this story? The guys Sherry Harold-Hilled were gay. This wasn’t about getting dick pics. He strung them along for months with fake job offers. Some of them were contemplating turning down actual jobs in the hopes of holding out for Sherry’s imaginary job offers.

Sherry/Joey/Allison never actually had sex with any of these guys either. (Yes, one masturbated in front of him, but there was no anal or oral with any of them.) This was about power and manipulation, not sex.

If you get to the stage of masturbation... haven't you decided that you'll do "it" to get the part? This Sherrie person is no doubt a creep and should suffer the consequences of that. But if X had got the part (if Sherrie was actually a casting director), would we be hearing anything about it?

It’s kind of hard to feel sorry for people who are so dumb

One of the other queens (Shea I think) posted that one of the victims was straight.

But I'm guessing he was probably "no labels"

If you’re hot, you get off to having people watch you jack off, so these boys actually enjoyed the experience. When I was 30 I was a gym rat and ate extremely clean and had the 6pack abs and rock hard body. I would gladly jack off for men in bathrooms, on chat video, and at the lake. Hot guys that know they’re hot are always a bit of an exhibitionist.

I have to say they ARE actors, so they are naturally narcissists/exhibitionists.

I marvel at the self-absorption of people like r90.

I liked jacking off for people, so it is beyond my comprehension that other guys might not like being tricked into masturbating on camera in order to get the acting jobs they want!

And that is before we get into the whole being given steroids/HGH thing...

DQ'd is one in the mouth and one in the butt? I'd say that is worth an acting role, or even a good cinnamon roll.

One of the guys actually took steroids and bulked for nearly a year, then when he realised he was being scammed he asked Sherry to pay for his roids.

I feel this could be a case of scammers scamming each other

Disqualified from the FINALE? Isn't that rather a large spoiler?

I wonder if they'll refilm anything, like they did when Sepulveda's prostitution leaked early on in the run of that dating show.

Oh my read the story at R94. Very very twisted cunt. And to think some above poopoo'd the suggestion this is criminal.

So some guy jerks off on camera in hopes of getting a part in a movie and then whines about being duped? Bitch, please.

[QUOTE]Marandola says his “casting process” with the person going by the name Mossey continued via email until December 2019 and involved him making over 800 degrading audition videos, some of which involved sex toys — all while Marandola and Gugliemelli together ran a weekly drag show at Rebar, a Manhattan gay bar.

800?! Sex toys? Come on, at some point alarm bells have to start ringing.

I've seen it said elsewhere that this was an open secret amongst the NYC gay scene - so seems odd this particular victim wouldn't have heard something.

Also, this Gugliemelli must have been a DLer.

What gets me most about the Marandola case is that he and Sherry were close friends and colleagues. They ran a weekly show together at Rebar. Imagine the betrayal. It also really helps explain why these guys went along with it for so long. All the while “Allison” was stringing him along via email, Joey was there in person to help support, normalize and coax Marandola into going with his scheme. It really is more like gaslighting than catfishing.

Imagine if every time the alarm bells started to ring a close friend was there to tell you it was all in your head. It’s mindfuckery at its worst/best.

[quote]800?! Sex toys? Come on, at some point alarm bells have to start ringing.

You would think by the 745th video with the self-fucking machine that he would have gotten a clue that something was amiss, but I don't want to judge.

JGL sent a video of himself masturbating to audition for Shortbus.

I can see how a struggling actor hears stories like that and wants to believe, you are desperate for your break.

Joseph Gordon Levitt?

How long was Joseph Gordon Levit on "Third Rock From the Sun"? I find it hard to believe that he was flat broke. Even if he was, he could do a guest star gig on some procedural. And a JO video would totally have leaked by now.

800 videos? That is 3 a day for a year. Come on! Not buying any of this.

He does say that he only exchanged 150 emails with Allison, so some of the 800 videos could possibly have be him neurotically filming take after take.

I would assume anyone posting on the DL would know about JGL's Shortbus audition but I guess hot.

It's not a secret, him and James Cameron Mitchell have mentioned it in a few interviews.

R104 - what planet has 266 days in a year?

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 800 or more times, shame on me.

Nothing in that link gives the impression that JGL was a struggling actor. He doesn't confirm what was on the tape either. Was Shie Le Boeuf a struggling actor when he worked with Von Trier? Neither of these successful actors are comparable to the aspiring types mentioned in the OP link.

It’s not like Sherry/Joey/Allison was conning Cheyenne Jackson and Colton. Some of these guys were very vulnerable aspiring actors from Nebraska and Tennessee. One Guy was debating whether to take up Joey’s “Bulk” offer or be a performer on a Disney Cruise. Joey went for the lowest hanging fruit, so to speak.

From the post at R94: "Marandola says his “casting process” with the person going by the name Mossey continued via email until December 2019 and involved him making over 800 degrading audition videos, some of which involved sex toys — all while Marandola and Gugliemelli together ran a weekly drag show at Rebar, a Manhattan gay bar."

Eight-hundred videos! At what point did he realize he was being degraded? On the 30th video? The 130th? The 250th? The 500th? The 750th? Or was it when the audition videos involved sex toys?

[quote] Or was it when the audition videos involved sex toys?

Nah. Those were videos 198-305, so that couldn’t be it.

From R106, JGL: "Uh-huh … Well, it was a fun little workshop he had going, and it was a cool process. I knew John — actually, my producing partner is friends with him — and I knew what he was doing and found it really intriguing."

Sounds like JGL is describing his own cat fishing. Sounds hot. That video must be circulating among John Cameron Mitchell's upper cadre of queers.

It wouldn't surprise me if John Cameron Michell will one day be exposed by #metoo.

"Each time he began to grow suspicious, Marandola said, Mossey and Gugliemelli egged him on in emails or in person, respectively, making excuses for the vulgarity of the script he was asked to read or telling him that it was an opportunity worth the sacrifice."

MARY!!!

The script doesn't ring believable.

He catfished his friend who co-produced a weekly drag show with him. He posed as this casting agent and sais he himself was the agent's assistant. For a year he did it, and convinced him to take HGH and steroids to get bigger. He had some kind muscle growth fantasy he was catfishing guys for. The guy who took the sterioid says he is suffering now because of high estrogen from going off the roids.

But how dumb is the guy taking the steroids? And for what--a part? Come on.

This is so embarrassing for Miss Ru. Her Netflix show was cancelled and now she has to feature a creepy degenerate all season. It’s time for this old brown bag to leave the stage.

People who are in that gainer/encourager scene are fucking psychos......end of story.

What is that scene exactly, R119?

Sherry Pie is hideous, like the ugly drag daughter if Michael Musto. Her whole vibe is repulsive.

Mr. Marandola looks quite shy and demure.

With the face of someone far too old to be that gullible.

Mr. Shimkus needs a glass of water.

Sherry Pie catfishes THAT, R124? Lust is blind.

Gross and nasty

Both guys have the look of guys who have been around the block a few times.... In Mr. Marandola's case, maybe too much molly has gone to his brain, because boy please, how can he be that naive?

Here’s one of the auditions

R128 Stinky linky.

R103 He seems the type who would've done that just to try and get cast in something "artistic" to prove he's not just a TV sitcom type.

R120 Like a flu virus, it comes in a few different strains.

But the basic premise is that a smaller guy has a size fetish - whether it's guys who are muscular or fat, they are turned on by guys who are big and/or getting bigger.

From what I've seen it also ties a bit into the guys who fantasize about giants.

I mean, as a relative shorty I get that size contrasts can be hot....within realistic parameters. But these folks often take it way out of bounds. I dated a guy who was pretty normal sized, maybe a little beefy, but he was pursued by someone who kept telling him how hot it would be if he was 400 pounds.

Needless to say he bolted. Fetishes aside, who wants to be with anyone who keeps telling you "it would be so hot if you would just be X."

oh yeah and that whole noodles and beef mess shares some DNA with the basic gainer fuckery.

to wit:

r117 - he didn't want to - he told Sherry he could not even afford them. Sherry Pie lied and said the agent would pay for them - Pie paid for his steroids, which he convinced him to take.

Oh, well, then R134.

r135 Pie was one of his best friends....Imagine if you were being emailed by a casting agent for big movie and your best friend was working for an assistant for that agent and he convinced you to take steroids, that he would pay for, to work out get bigger and jack off on videos thinking you are going to get a movie roll - only to find out your BFF was lying about everything, pretending to be the casting agent and paying for the roids he convinced you to take...just so he could have videos of you beating off and posing.

and I know I will get fucking oh deared for Movie Roll.....

I know it's Role - it's my fucking autocorrect lol

Damn, r137, I had a decent joke planned for that mistake. Ya spoiled it. Ah well, another day I guess.

:-)

Loooky here, Soipy Sales @ r138

Why does that story about gay men injecting themselves with silicone begin with a gay man and then immediately segue into a bunch of paragraphs on trans?

[quote]Among trans women, silicone injections are a well known way to achieve the ultimate body: curvy butt, thick thighs or larger breasts. But over the past five years, there have been a number of news reports exposing “pumping parties,” where groups of trans women pool their money to get injected with silicone, and the practice has now become more underground and more risky.

It is tying pumping to body dismorphia and getting dangerous silicone injections to look more of something - it is not just a gay or trans thing.

Perhaps, but the title is specifically about "Gay Men".

This whole story is so bizarre and twisted that it sounds like something from a John Waters movie. I only wish that Divine or Edith Massey were still alive to play Sherry Pie in the movie.

Some of the catfishing involved telling them they were being auditioned to play Oogie Boogie in a stage version of Nightmare Before Christmas

Which is ridiculous - Nathan Lane was born to play the role

Wait, did Coco Montrese do this as well? I'm confused.

There was talk about Siky during her season, as I recall.

Are haters just targeting Drag Queens of Fat (DQFs)?