Does ‘gay face’ prove a biological cause of homosexuality?

OP please educate yourself about what gayface is, and is not. Pete does not have gayface.

It's also not a mix of masculine and feminine features. It has to do with an enlongated chin and a bigger mouth, among other things. Once you understand that "someone who has feminine features" is NOT gayface, you are on the path of discovery and learning.

Chasten is the one with gayface.

Gayface is so 2000's. I didn't realize the term is still in circulation.

R1 you’re obviously using the definition in which gay men give each other a ‘look’. I’m referring to their facial structure. And yes, it is to do with feminine and masculine features together. It’s written in peer reviewed medical journals. One study found on average a longer forehead, but this isn’t ALWAYS the case. You can’t box it in about a elongated chin because there are super gay looking men with short chins too.

Look at a lot of the “ex-gays”, they all have GAY FACE. It’s freaking real as hell. Not every gay person has it but many absolutely do.

R2 "enlongated chin and a bigger mouth"

Are they a result of the constant cock sucking?

Please fuck off!

Ryland Adams has gay face

R5 there is only one definition of gayface, and it is not whatever you are on about. A medical journal would never call a mix of masculine and feminine features "gayface" in any case. You're using an already existing term incorrectly.

Identifying gay men through facial features is not the same as "gayface" which is a specific set of facial features and even the way someone moves their jaw and mouth when talking (and before you jump to conclusions, it is not necessarily a feminine voice). It has nothing to do with masculinity or femininity.

R9 no, that is not gayface.

Andrew Rannells

My favorite gay face experiment (before & after photos)

R10 there is no ‘one definition’ of gay face. Gay face is simply a GAY LOOKING FACE. It’s in the name. Here’s a freaking scientific american article which says “there is no one definition”. Please exit the thread you weirdo. Idk why you’re obsessed with arguing it doesn’t exist lmfao.

R12 I see gayness in the before pics tbh. Studies have shown people can see homosexuality in expressionless faces. Read the scientific American article if you’re interested.

Alex Mecum

Gay face is probably real considering many gay men are attracted to straight guys faces... not just because gay men might act more feminine.

One poster stated pete does not have gay face. Now that is someone with no skill of spotting a gay from a mile away. I saw the gayling in his younger pictures and now.

R17 lmfao exactly. Pete has HELLA GAY FACE. The fact gay face was around back when people hid their sexuality proves its existence. I see gay face in a lot of the aggressively anti gay preachers too.

For me, it has nothing to do with OP's suggestion of "a mix of feminine and masculine features which give a gay appearance", but everything to do with a pulled tight, often tensed face, a purposeful attentiveness and quite often barring of teeth (back to the farthest molars), as if someone were pushed onto a stage like a deer into oncoming headlights and told to "sparkle!" It's a nervous and put on fake "friendly" look all about self-awareness and lacking in ease.

R19 - I haven’t seen that... but I think the mouth shape and surrounding muscles are often very gay. People have said this is a learned behaviour but I think smiles are inherited and a lot of gay men seem to have their mothers smiles. They inherit this feminine physical trait in this regard. Straight guys smiles often look more masc.

Put your finger up your bum

If you're gay, it will make you come!

Gayface prototype

Political edition

Jonathan Bennett

Gay face, doll hands

Mmhmm

The early years

Cody Fern

Ruru

Who, me??

It’s not the face, it’s the I-smell-cookies expression.

R31 I like sex and cookies, yeah.

Who’s that reading from my chair?

Who’s that casting devious stares in my direction?

Why can't we discuss more frivolous and entertaining pseudoscience?

"people can see..." Is never the start to anything worthwhile discussing as science, r14.

'People can see that gay men are destroying the moral fabric of society' - do you see how troubling that is? R14?

Even straight people can have gay face

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Indeed they can, R34. Indeed they can. And how they suffer for it.

Another stupid thread

I do wish it were an accurate predictor.

For really.

Y'all rang.

Ring a ding ding!

Yaaaaas, Daddy!

I’m only into guys with clockwise hair whorls

BOGO

[quote] Even straight people can have gay face

That's what I keep telling my wife.

I agree that it's not so much the facial anatomy as something about the expression.

I've always thought that Matt Bomer looked like Henry Cavill's gay twin brother. I wouldn't be able to tell these two apart if Bomer didn't always have that look on his face. (I have no idea if Cavill is closeted or not, but he doesn't have gayface imo).

I wouldn't say that Ronan Farrow or Victor Garber have gayface.

R46. You are not to be taken seriously since you stated Roman and victor do not have gayface.

What about meeeeeee!

How soon you forget the Magician King of the Gays!

"Gay face" seems to mean ugly or abnormal. There are shit-tons of straight guys with "gay face" and visa versa. People just seem to enjoy associating whatever is unpleasant with "gay".

Lack of gayface can be a burden that facilitates denial, as in this case.

I am happy for my gayface and gaymoves. It made it impossible for me to pretend I am not me.

OP is worse than the Nazis with their concept of jew faces/heads. Despicable.

R51 But when you put gay face and Jew face together, they cancel one another out!

A little too "bright eyed" is the main component.

So having dead looking eyes means straight?

Bright eyed AND bushy tailed!

Maybe it also depends on if someone is a top or bottom or more masculine or feminine in personality? There is also a similar study about body types and it could be true. Do you know about these #transvestigation videos on youtube? These "investigators" think certain celebs are trans because of their body type but maybe they just unintentionally out homosexuals?

R1- Is correct Buttigieg does NOT have any features on his face that look GAY. The OP is an idiot. He's just applying that phrase wily nily.

It's NEVER the whole face that's gay it's features on the face. The LIPS and the EYES. VERY FEMININE colored and shaped lips and the eyes that are glassy, stary and pupils permanently dialated. A great example of a celebrity who has EXTREMELY GAY lips and EXTREMELY STARY eyes is Jonathan Rhys Meyers.

R53- Men that look TOO SUNNY. George Stephanaoplis- bad spelling i know

Hi!!

Any gay guy who believes this "gay face" shit doesn't realize that they're fuckin' ugly and have only attracted hideous guys--probably why they make these associations.

R59- What are you talking about. He doesn't have a GAY bone in his body.

“Excuse me, missy! What did you call my face? I will have you know, my fave is just STYLISH!”

he has adorable face

Jensen Ackles

Omnisexual with omnisexual face

There's a dutch guy who tests SUPER fast cars on the Autobahn. He's good looking and he has COCKSUCKING lips. But I'm not sure if he's gay. AutoTopNL on youtube.

I don’t have gayface. I do, however, have gaycock.

I think the prevalence of observable effeminancy in gay men indicates that homosexuality is innate or biological

Let's admit that there are some guys who you can tell, not just by their mannerisms, but by their face that they're gay. And that is neither bad nor good -- it just is.

R69- You are wrong. The celebrity in your post is a perfect example of a gay male that looks and sounds TOTALLY STRAIGHT.

We used to call gay face cookie sniffers until that became offensive.

Petey teenage pictures read like a gay teen that will never be inside a vagina except when he came out of his mother pussy. Major gay face as a teen and now.

Living la vida homo.

R69 - No, it's bad because that is worse than the standard.

Even AI can see gayface, but only marginally better than humans.

[quote]For reference, the Wang and Kosinski study achieved 81 to 85 per cent accuracy for males, and 70 to 71 per cent for women, using their datasets. Humans got it right 61 per cent of the time for men, and 54 per cent for women, in a comparison study.

I don't have gay face.

I def have gay voice though.

There is no such thing as GAY FACE. A nose NEVER looks gay. It's CERTAIN features on the face. Mainly the LIPS and the EYES.

That makes it about facial expression rather than construction, R78.

There 100% is such a thing as gayface. I don't need science to be able to prove and/or explain it, because I know it when I see it.

Why do gays lisp, mince and prance?

r80 Agreed. Gayface is 100% real, but not all gay men have it.

I have never heard any gay rumours about Michael Sheen; and he has impregnated at least two women, but he has MAJOR gayface imo

Gayface for me is a recognizable combination of two things expressed in the face:

anxiety / fearfulness / general lack of confidence or courage, masked with too much "smile" / fake confidence.

Sometimes gayface is also a male face, which uses female facial expressions.

R83, your point seems to illustrate that "gayface" is an identifiable thing. Does it apply specifically and exclusively to homosexuals? No. Does it indicate that Michael Sheen is gay? No. Does it indicate that Marcus Bachmann is gay? I wish the fuck not. Does every gay man have "gayface"? No, no more than every lesbian has "caneface".

Everyone has their own idea of what a hipster is, but once you get to the details and examples you realize that there is great variety in what those ideas look like. There's some truth to that with "gayface," but I think within narrower parameters.

I would say Michael Sheen is an example from the elfin-goofus-"gay or British?" end of the "gayface" spectrum.

R80, R82 yeah I know gay face when I see it too, and I fucking love it. The science is real interesting though. Same with gay voice, thats something else there's been some science done on, and gay voice is another thing that gets me hot and horny

Gay face disappears when old age spots, wrinkles, and moles/skin tags proliferate and cause all faces - gay and straight - to dissolve into unsexual messiness.

OP is certainly not a dum dum

R89 article from 2009? Oh, please.

[quote]Does ‘gay face’ prove a biological cause of homosexuality?

Here's a newer one.

Interesting topic. Some I know definitely have it and others have no sign whatsoever. The reality is that most self-proclaimed straights who have gay face are gay though.

Not sure about gay face, but gay voice is real.

Most closeted fags had such masculine voices before they came out. And suddenly, lo and behold, right after they came out, their voice would become so cloyingly effy.

However, if you suck cock and have 'str8face', you can 'pass' and reap all the benefits of being perceived as a heterosexual male.

R90 You didn't catch my subtle sarcasm.

^^^ R89 ^^^

R88- I watched a video of Alec Baldwin on the Merv Griffen show from 1984. The pheromone's were flowing then. He had FEMININE lips and the GLASSY EYED, PUPILS DIALATED look in his eyes. As you said-age had covered the gay look in him nicely.

Ryan Reynolds has the GAY lips and GAY stare thing going on. Matt Bomer too.

And then there are those dear men who have been saddled with "gay face" and and "gay voice," and yet are legitimately straight, confusing themselves, the public, and their wives' parents even that much more

R81 : Too many chicks in their lives that they emulate.

All of the actors discussed as straight are actually rumored to be closeted. So gay face does strongly exist in openly gay and closeted.

So sucking cock causes gayface?

r98 I wouldn't really say that John Mulaney has gayface. Maybe gayface lite.

Well since people are born gay OP.....

What about 'lesbian face?'

Armie Hammer is married with children but is the perfect example of gayface. His chin, lips and teeth look like they haven't stopped sucking cock.

R105-LOL.

I mentioned this earlier in the thread. There is a Dutch guy who drives super fast cars on the Autobahn. He sounds so HETERO but he has COCK SUCKING lips. I wonder if he's a GAY boy? AutotopNL- that's the name of his youtube channel. Someone go there look at him and tell me what you think.

There is even a "gay brain". So "gay face" is a possibility. Women tend to have different facial features than men on average too. Unfortunately, many people of the lgbt community believe in the feminist drivel that "gender is a social construct" and "has no roots in biology", so it will take a lot more time until we can find out more about lgbt in terms of biological research.