KLOBUCHAR OUT!

Looking for a good link. Anyone?

Here's one, R1.

Good fuckin riddance, you homophobic cunt.

She outtie!

She’ll be the VP.

People are doing the right thing. Bloomberg next please.

Bernie can keep Warren and Tulsi.

TIME FOR HOTDISH

I'm shocked she's pulling out before tomorrow's Minnesota vote ... unless she thinks she won't win the state.

Fuck I don't want Biden. It’s hard to listen to him talk with all his gaffes and stumbles.

If she wants Biden to win, she should have stayed in for Minnesota to siphon votes from Sanders. She wasn't going to take that many in other places I'm sure.

R10, I was thinking that, too. I don't know that her supporters will turn out for Biden.

The thinning of the herd continues.

It's clear neither Pete nor Amy want to be saddled with accusations of contributing to what they assume will be a spectacular Sanders flameout in the general.

Why is everyone in such a rush to drop out?

Biden won one state, and all of a sudden he becomes the sure thing?! Why didn't Pete get that narrative when he won Iowa??

This is actually good. The media will truly focus on Bernie v. Biden.

Big Joe & Mayor Pete 2020

I’d rather it be Kamala, R5.

r14 - They haven't got any money to go forward. Simple as that.

Biden Bernie Warren Bloomberg. That's about it.

Attorney General Klobuchar

Tulsi's coming to get R19.

VP?

How could it be a money issue? Buttigieg was outperforming Biden up until South Carolina.

On average this is good for Biden. Despite MN tomorrow.

Amy will be VP.

Midwesterner would be good for VP. Klobuchar, Duckworth, Pete.

Amy will NOT be VP. Get that out of your head!

Obama needs to endorse Biden ASAP.

Maybe Michelle Obama can endorse Biden before President Obama.

Now the two ancient dudes can have heart attacks, and Warren can win

Wow they are dropping like flies

Obama has already told Biden he's staying in the wings.

Who's next? I'm thinking Bloomberg before Warren.

[quote]Obama needs to endorse Biden ASAP.

Today: A person close to Obama told CNN that the former president’s view has not changed: He has no immediate plans to offer an endorsement of Biden — or anyone — as the nominating contest heads into Super Tuesday. “We are skeptical that an endorsement coming from us could truly change the political winds right now,” the person close to Obama told CNN. If Obama were to endorse Biden, the person said, there is “a very real chance it backfires.”

Obama said he is not going to endorse anyone and apparently told Pete it was up to him if he wanted to endorse anyone.

R9 = twelve years old

Kamala won't happen. She's not that special. And if Joe Biden will forgive her for that dirty trick about the buses, you have to figure his wife or his advisors won't.

Maybe Amy. I still think there's a black man or woman out there who is credible but is not in DL's constellation of stars for the job. He might pull Patrick. He might pull Booker. Fuck, he might pull Bakari Sellers (who's been suspiciously complimentary about JB on CNN of late given how hard he was when he was backing Harris.) Anyway I don't know who it will be any more than anybody else but I do feel confident Kamala doesn't add much to the ticket relative to other choices and there's got to be bad blood over the cheap shot. I think it will be hard for her get past go based on that.

R28: Not a chance in hell. Obama views himself as the one will unite the party after this is all over. He will not involve himself in this.

Klobuchar's campaign has been running on fumes as far as cash for a while. I suspect Super Tuesday was never in the cards for her. She was just buying time to dropout.

"I'm thinking Bloomberg before Warren."

Forget Bloomberg, he'll be running even AFTER Biden is nominated.

Let's all share in a moment of silence, for all of the poor Swingline Staplers being flung across the room, in remembrance of Amy Klobuchar.

The scary thing is if tomorrow night encourages Bloomberg... advertising is powerful... he may do well enough ST that he outranks JB based on early voting feeling (note the number of posters here who now say had Pete dropped out, they would have gone for Biden.)

Soon it'll be down to BIDEN, BERNIE, BLOOMBERG and...

TULSI! <3 <3 <3

Stay strong, Aloha Angel! And yet the liberals and their DNC-media handmaidens will claw over broken glass to promote and vote for rich old white dudes <3 There's nothing wrong with voting for a white guy, obvs, but it highlights their hypocrisy.

Michelle endorsing would be helpful. She has more flexibility than President Obama to do so.

[quote] Why didn't Pete get that narrative when he won Iowa??

Pete will forever be the subject of "what ifs" because of how Iowa played out.

If the numbers had been added up correctly with no issues, he would be in a very different place.

Or not--the rest of the states are more similar to SC than to Iowa

Well, at least now she can't claim she never lost a race.

ROFL she did this to spite Mayor Pete. What a glorious cunt.

It helps focus voters on the story that this is essentially a two-person race.

5 staplers, R46. All I've got now is committee hearings and visiting to the nursing home. You watch your fuckin' back.

I really wish Warren would surge.

She's flying to Texas to stand with Biden?

ROFL he comes out with his Biden endorsement twenty minutes after

Oh, the terror and wrath that her poor staffers are going to have to endure tonight, in her drunken rage.

TINA!!!! Bring me the axe!!!!!

Actually R47, we were just laughing at how Pete likely beat her to the punch on this and she was cursing his name all night.

She really had no choice at this point, given that he was far ahead of her

Bernie or Biden. That's it.

Elizabeth is in a prime position to negotiate for a position now since Bernie absolutely needs her to drop out and support him.

The Democrats are coalescing around Biden because it fears Bernie would lose badly

And Pete more or less endorsed Biden in his speech last night.

I can hear Perez and the DNC guys telling him "let her endorse Joe first, okay. Let her have this one, Pete."

Amy is still a Senator.

Pete was the big get by the DNC. Anyone who has watched an episode of SUV knows the first to flip gets the carrot.

It was Pete or a negotiated convention.

Now Pete can turn to Amy and say, "Yes, you ARE stupid."

Finally we have clarity. It's now a binary choice for Dems.

Bullshit, R55!

When all is said and done, I wonder if Bernie will acknowledge how much the Bros hurt him with suburban white voters, females in particular.

That NYT article has been making the rounds of all the Karen-Adjacent women I know on FB

GO JOE!!!!!

Any Democrat with half a brain, knows that it's Biden or we lose.

Bernie Sanders is a SURE LOSE bet. Russian asset. Socialist. Creeps on women.

Gabbard is a big nothing. But it's interesting how Putin has kept her in the race.

Bloomberg is a closet case. Trump knows this, and will use that information to take him down.

[quote]Bernie or Biden. That's it.

How pathetic that THIS is what we end up with.

A depressing choice. Neither is anything to write home about.

And furthermore, we didn't need to go through four years of Republican destruction to get either one.

DALLAS — Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, who entered the Democratic presidential race with an appeal to moderate voters and offered herself as a candidate who could win in Midwestern swing states, has decided to quit the race and endorse a rival, former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., according to a person close to Ms. Klobuchar.

Ms. Klobuchar will appear with Mr. Biden at his rally in Dallas Monday night. The decision comes one day after former Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind., departed the race, and after weeks of Democratic Party hand-wringing about a crowded field of moderate candidates splitting a finite field of centrist votes, allowing Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont to march forward unopposed among progressives and amass delegates.

Ms. Klobuchar, despite a strong third-place finish in New Hampshire, lagged her moderate rivals in every other state and was often seen as a candidate siphoning support. Though she had varying levels of support across the Super Tuesday map, polling within reach of leading candidates in some predominantly Republican states with open primaries, but it is unclear how much of a boost any of her rivals will see in the wake of Ms. Klobuchar’s exit, or where she may direct her 7 delegates.

The senator from Minnesota shocked her rivals with a surprising third-place finish in New Hampshire, placing ahead of better-known candidates like Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and Mr. Biden.

But aside from New Hampshire, Ms. Klobuchar struggled deeply, lagging all of her competitors in Iowa, Nevada and South Carolina. Though her campaign received a much-needed influx of cash after New Hampshire — $12 million in just over a week — it proved too little, too late for the campaign to rapidly scale up and compete with her better funded and better organized rivals.

The Klobuchar campaign was constantly rescheduling events, oftentimes releasing public advisories for an event with less than 24 hours advance notice. One “get out the caucus” rally in Nevada at Rancho High School attracted less than 100 people. Days before, Pete Buttigieg, the former mayor of South Bend, Ind., brought more than 1,200 to the same school.

Ms. Klobuchar was forced to cancel a rally in her own backyard Sunday night, after protesters from Black Lives Matter and other local civil rights groups took over the stage in St. Louis Park, Minn. They were calling attention to the case of Myon Burrell, a black man convicted of murder as a teenager while Ms. Klobuchar was county attorney.

Recent news reports have raised questions about the case, including numerous reported flaws with the prosecution. Ms. Klobuchar, while stopping short of apologizing, has called for the case to be reviewed.

The frantic scramble to build out a national campaign followed a diligent and relentless focus on Iowa. Ms. Klobuchar was the first 2020 candidate to visit all 99 counties, and spent most of her time, money and field staff deployed to the state. Her self-described “gritty” effort in Iowa kept her on the debate stage, meeting polling thresholds in early states rather than in national polls.

With a calm but prosecutorial demeanor mixed with a dry sense of humor, Ms. Klobuchar slowly built momentum through consecutive debate performances, seeing immediate spikes in cash and volunteers. But she never experienced a true “viral moment” — something she lamented in the closing days of her campaign while speaking in Nashville — forcing her to run a threadbare operation in every state outside of Iowa.

Ms. Klobuchar famously kicked off her campaign in the middle of a blizzard a year ago, her nearly hourlong presidential announcement marked by the piles of snow that accumulated on her hatless head as she debuted her centrist message.

On the campaign trail, she would refer frequently to her snowy beginnings as she continually pitched her Midwestern roots as a presidential credential, arguing that her “I live here” heartland appeal could win back states like Michigan, Ohio and Wisconsin, which President Trump carried in 2016.

As a perpetual and direct contrast to the vocal liberal base of the Democratic Party, Ms. Klobuchar stubbornly stuck to a moderate message, one she hoped would appeal to independents and moderate Republicans. She vocally opposed “Medicare for all,” and built one of her most popular stump speech lines around defending the Affordable Care Act, claiming that it was “10 points more popular than the guy in the White House Right now.”

Her campaign also amounted to a bet that in a deeply polarized electorate, a bipartisan voting record could still be viewed as an asset in the Democratic electorate. She regularly touted the more than 100 bills that she passed during her 14-year Senate career, and name-checked Republican senators that she frequently worked with in her stump speech.

But her bipartisan record also carried some risk; she was among the most likely Democratic senators to vote for a Trump judicial nominee, a point seized on by rivals like Mr. Buttigieg in debates.

She struggled more than any other candidate to attract support in minority communities, particularly among black voters. She faced calls from local civil rights organizations in Minneapolis, including the N.A.A.C.P. chapter, to suspend her campaign after news reports raised questions about a murder conviction of a black teenager under her tenure.

As she made her final run, Ms. Klobuchar abandoned South Carolina, the first state to vote with a meaningful black population, four days early. And her Super Tuesday campaign swing through 11 different states avoided the two biggest, and most diverse: Texas and California.

But the senator kept her message upbeat throughout the campaign, and she always had her New Hampshire finish to point to, as she did in Nashville a few days before Super Tuesday.

“We have been really, really beating the odds,” she said.

Amy sure as fuck didn’t drop out before Super Tuesday and immediately endorse Biden without having a deal in place for VP. She’s not a novice like Mayor Pete.

[quote]Now Pete can turn to Amy and say, "Yes, you ARE stupid."

LOL. And Chasten can throw his wine. Which given Dad's grace will be the ultimate insult.

This is going to be ugly. I'm scared of the fallout. All I can do is hope that this country is smart enough to kick Donald Trump’s ass out of the White House.

[quote] Bernie or Biden. That's it. How pathetic that THIS is what we end up with.

[quote] A depressing choice. Neither is anything to write home about.

Go fuck yourselves.

Joe Biden was Vice-President of the United States for EIGHT YEARS, under President Obama.

And he was a United States Senator for 30 years.

He is MORE QUALIFIED than anyone.

You haters can go fuck yourselves. He will make a great President.

Biden up $0.12. Bernie down $0.07.

This feels like a coronation all over again. If people feel their voices are not heard they will not show up to vote for Biden. The DNC really needs to think hard before they push another nominee on us.

R69... I imagine Pete is playing a different game. He's 37 (8?)... in a decade he'll still be young as a candidate. He's probably playing a long game and knows his next move is beef up his creds and broaden his constituencies. Pete has the luxury of name recognition and time.

R74, the uncertainty and fear of Bernie shows that it's no coronation.

Yea, if she's appearing WITH Joe at a rally, she has VP on lock.

Jesus, I can't with this cunt as VP.

[quote] This feels like a coronation all over again. If people feel their voices are not heard they will not show up to vote for Biden

THEN DON'T FUCKING SHOW UP, YOU CRYBABY BERNIE BRO CUNT!!!!!!

LET DONALD DUMP WIN AGAIN, AND GET FOUR MORE YEARS OF MOTHERFUCKING HELL, YOU STUPID LOSER!!!!!

Woke Slate is anxious.

[quote]If people feel their voices are not heard they will not show up to vote for Biden.

The one thing people here, especially, keep overlooking. Young people will not give two shits about Biden returning to the status quo so you can kiss 47% of people 18-24 goodbye.

[quote]Yea, if she's appearing WITH Joe at a rally, she has VP on lock.

Unless he's incredibly stupid, he won't give her that. She was already facing attacks about her case records before the last vote. The reporters smelled blood.

She would be the shittiest VP pick he could ever consider.

[quote]Go fuck yourselves.

No, you go fuck yourself.

We didn't need to go through four years of watching the institutions of this country be dismantled and destroyed to get a politician with the SAME political alignment as the one we ALL could have voted for back in 2016.

But you chose to swallow the Republican kool aid, or you just couldn't stand the thought of a woman being the boss of this country. So you let it all go to shit because of your prejudices and ignorance.

It's not about Biden being a great President. It's about people using their brains and doing correct thing the first time.

I'd rather have the votes of moderate white suburban women in swing states who vote in every election than the supposed guaranteed votes of 18-24 year olds who've never voted before.

Electoral College.

Batten down the hatches, b!tches!

Liz will be Biden's VP pick. It would be the best strategic move they could make - pulls progressive votes from Bernie and creates a true-blue Dem unity ticket.

At least the hot head's finally getting her trend on Twitter.

Biden will need someone less moderate, someone who can maybe inspire some of the Bernie supporters. There has to be balance this time. We can't ignore the progressive wing of the party and hope they'll just go along with whomever is put forth, as we've seen in the past, they won't.

Her bundlers need to switch to Biden ASAP.

Bernie is probably pissed about this. He wanted as many people to run against so he could get the Drumpf 2016 treatment.

Actually, I could see a Biden/Warren ticket.

Dems never learn. Getting behind the guy Obama warned not to run, really? This isn't going to go well.

No former prosecutor will be VP. Biden doesn't need that, with BLM showing up and protesting etc.

Fat Karen Staple Throwing Queen

Nate Silver: The safest thing is probably just to think of the nomination as a toss-up between Sanders and Biden now.

(Doesn't sound like a coronation to me.)

[quote] Liz will be Biden's VP pick. It would be the best strategic move they could make

That would be the best Democratic ticket in AGES.

I would vote for that in a hot second.

[quote] Dems never learn. Getting behind the guy Obama warned not to run, really? This isn't going to go well.

Thanks for chiming in, Boris/R92.

But no one GIVES TWO FUCKS ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK.

[quote] Joe Biden was Vice-President of the United States for EIGHT YEARS, under President Obama. And he was a United States Senator for 30 years. He is MORE QUALIFIED than anyone.

HOW DARE YOU!!!!

Our Queen was the most qualified candidate EVER in the history of democracy

She was a Senator, A Secretary of State and the receptacle for presidential sperm for eight years. (Well, at least the parts that didn't go on Monica's dress.)

Tell us how pressed you really are, R97.

Elizabeth Warren would never be Biden's pick. It goes against her core principles. And Biden's ego would never allow it.

Good luck with the Bernie crowd. You're gonna get it worse than Hillary and her supporters ever had it.

R99 - oooh, we're so scared.

[quote] This feels like a coronation all over again. If people feel their voices are not heard they will not show up to vote for Biden. The DNC really needs to think hard before they push another nominee on us.

It's different this time. HRC was running because it was "her time." Biden is running based on a sense of duty to his country. An obligation to depose a Tyrant. This is a scenario where selection of VP will be critical, an anointing of someone to lead next.

aww you bitches are still bitter about Chuck e Cheese dropping out huh

Warren adds nothing to the ticket.

It's not like the affluent white suburban liberals she attracts are going to vote for Trump.

And BernieBro 2020 is a very different breed than BernieBro 2016. And they're not going to care that Warren is on the ticket.

[quote]HRC was running because it was "her time." Biden is running based on a sense of duty to his country.

Try again.

Biden is running because after running 3 times he believes it's HIS time.

If Sanders was honest with people, his support wouldn't be half of what it is. Even if he wins, his agenda will never get through Congress. He already wants to primary Pelosi because she doesn't support M4A. He's a toxic troublemaker.

What has Bernie Sanders ever done for the Democratic Party?

I don't care who feels entitled. I want to know who's more likely to win the presidency.

Black voters are chilly toward Warren, or just not turned on by her

[quote]What has Bernie Sanders ever done for the Democratic Party?

Worked hard to destroy it?

[quote]I'd rather have the votes of moderate white suburban women in swing states who vote in every election than the supposed guaranteed votes of 18-24 year olds who've never voted before.

R84, You mean the voters that were enough to help us win the last election?

Oh, wait.

Do swing voters in swing states want revolution or a restoration of normalcy?

[quote]Young people will not give two shits about Biden returning to the status quo so you can kiss 47% of people 18-24 goodbye.

Those people don’t show up to vote anyway.

Bullshit R76

The woke bros at Pod Save America want the race to be Warren v. Bernie. They're on another planet.

Bernie Bros are terrified.

You can tell, by the sense of panic in their comments.

I guess they are scared that Putin isn't going to pay them. Or execute them. One or the other.

Now it's time for THEM to feel the BERRRRNNNNNNN!

[quote]Bernie Bros are terrified.

Coronations are only bad if they're not Bernie.

It was odd that the the Sunday shows were redolent with Bernie's flatulence that his 30% was good enough to warrant a coronation on the first vote at the Convention.

It was amazing to watch Heidi Hiedcamp got toe to toe with a BLACK Bernie supporter explaining that 70% of Democrats DO NOT WANT BERNIE.

And VOILA!

Through the power of power politics, the 70% is being coalesced behind Joe.

Hey Bernie, how about YOU suspend?

Bloomberg needs to tank in Florida tomorrow. That'll be it.

Time for Bloomberg and Sanders to both drop out.

Florida doesn't vote tomorrow R117

Pod Save loves whomever BLM and young minorities love.

R119, thanks for that correction. Indeed it's 3/17.

It was likely a lift comb that she used to eat her salad. The long tines would be perfect for both maintaining her teased round bob and also stabbing at lettuce and tomatoes.

[quote]What has Bernie Sanders ever done for the Democratic Party?

You mean, apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health?

Oh, wait, that was the Romans. Carry on.

R9, I'd like to see you speak as well if you were a former stutterer.

Didnt Biden have a meeting with Stacey Abrams a bit ago?

I think he may pick her as VP he will owe his survival to black voters who rescued his campaign and he may choose her as a "thank you" to them

OMG, it’s going to be the battle of the old white guys. We’re fucked!

Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat. He has only used and insulted the Democratic Party. He is not here to build, only lie and destroy.

Fuck him. I am gleeful to see the Democrats finally coming together, putting egos aside, and working together to do something to try and get someone decent elected and Bernie shuffled off into the other. It's about damn time!

Why is that R126 you racist troll?

I think r126 is implying he'd liked a young white guy. Buttegieg perhaps?

Joe Biden is an old out of touch man who has spent his whole career in politics protecting the status quo.

Say no to Status Quo Joe.

OH man and all those people who acted like they were in the know, claimed Biden wanted her to stay in until after Minnesota voted to keep Bernie from winning Minnesota.

I think Biden would be stupid not to pick Stacey Abrams. I know, I know, posters on here going to go on about how she didn't even win in Georgia, but she came pretty fucking close to doing so, and may have won had it not been for voter purges. And she seems left enough to consolidate that base, as well as locking up the black vote. My second choice would be Kamala, because she will wipe the floor with Pence if a debate ever happens. She's my top choice in 2024.

But the Bernie Bros, who knows what's going through their minds. I'm pretty sure Biden supporters would coalesce around Bernie, but I'm not sure his supporters would do the same to Biden. That's a kind of scary position to be in.

If Biden does end up being the nominee, it's important to remember that, well he may not dramatically improve anything, he will at least stop it from getting worse.

[quote] Joe Biden is an old out of touch man

so I can vote for old out of touch Bernie, no thanks

R23, if you're not showing that you can win beyond the lily white states then funds dry up pretty quickly. He wasn't polling well with Latinos and AAs and SC showed he wasn't getting their vote.

r130 -- So you're going to support one of the other two old, out of touch men (Bernie and Bloomberg)? Joe is the youngest of the three remaining candidates

Can't most of you see this is 2016 all over again. The DNC backed establishment candidate will lose. Report after report in 2016 had interviews with people in swing states who voted for Trump, not the hate filled loonies, but the ones like those who had voted twice for Obama, said they would have voted for Bernie, but never Hillary. God so fucking many stupid people. We are fucked and you're celebrating the loser of the 2020 election.

I would like someone to tell me one thing Obama or Biden did for the poor and working people, unions and the working poor. They both tried several times to cut Social Security. The ACA did help some of the poor but screwed those not completely poor and since Obama kissed some more Republican ass he let the right get away with not making Medicaid mandatory in every state so the ACA people who wanted ACA were fucked in those states along with people with a little more income who were just generally fucked and ended up paying more, not less for insurance.

So the not so great ACA was the big accomplishment for both Biden and Obama. Things in those 8 years got much worse for black people who were not of means.

So tell me. Maybe I wasn't paying attention. Besides the so/so ACA what did Obama and Biden do in 8 years to help anyone other than those who already had money. Yes unemployment decreased but with lousy paying jobs that could not support a person, much less a family, so don't bother using that one.

I want normalcy. I believe Biden can restore normalcy. I don't want revolution, transformation, charisma, or passion. I want incremental change and moderation.

Money wasn't the reason Buttigieg dropped out according to one reports I saw last night. He just didn't want to be blamed for Bide losing super Tuesday. He'll get that Jill Stein stench on him and he'll never be able to be a leader in the party.

R135, Bernie is the only one for change. Biden and his old school politics are gonna lose horribly like Hillary did.

[quote] I would like someone to tell me one thing Obama or Biden did for the poor and working people, unions and the working poor.

I don't know enough to identify something, but what's your obsession with that segment of the citizenry?

[quote]What has Bernie Sanders ever done for the Democratic Party?

Left it.

[quote]Biden and his old school politics are gonna lose horribly like Hillary did.

Hillary did not "lose horribly."

[quote] So tell me. Maybe I wasn't paying attention. Besides the so/so ACA what did Obama and Biden do in 8 years to help anyone other than those who already had money. Yes unemployment decreased but with lousy paying jobs that could not support a person, much less a family, so don't bother using that one.

Are you American? Capital rules this country. Money. Do you think a president is going to change the fundamental fabric of this country so that the well-being of the poor and working class will be our top priority?

America has its origins in the UK. Property rules in the UK. Property and later capital. It's always been that way.

If you want equality, find a way to move to Denmark or something.

Bernie would devastate Democrats

[quote]Biden and his old school politics are gonna lose horribly like Hillary did.

You know who lost horribly? McGovern. Dukakis. Mondale. That's what a Bernie candidacy would look like.

r139 - Keep telling yourself that. He doesn't even belong in the Democratic Party.

Principles before Party. If more Republicans and Democrats were like Bernie we wouldnt be in such a terrible place with our current president.

Bernie or bust!!

Biden is this election’s Mondale. I will vote for him if he is the nominee, but his nomination will likely lead to the death of the Democratic Party.

At the end of the day, all politicians are terrible humans, who only run for office to better themselves.

I just want someone who won't royally screw it up for the rest of us. Biden was and remains the best chance we have this election cycle.

r148 Mondale won TWO states (well, one state and DC.) Do you really think Joe Biden will only win two states? You're an idiot.

R150, After Daddy Bernie and Trump get done with him? Absolutely! The guy has dementia. He can only ride Obama's coattails for so long. Older black voters only make up so much of the electorate

[quote]I would like someone to tell me one thing Obama or Biden did for the poor and working people,

Please tell us one thing Sanders did for the poor... Besides ship toxic waste off to them and profit from it.

and why is it that Sanders supporters always question every other candidate and demand answers as to what that candidate has done or what their experience is but can never answer the same about Sanders?

To whomever unthread screaming that Bernie gets the youth vote while Biden will lose about "47%" of them and all will be lost... Only 14% and 11% of the elect oat in NH and SC, respectively, were voters 18-29. Biden will survive just fine without them.

CNN's Abby D. Phillip: A source familiar with the plans tells me Pete Buttigieg will endorse Joe Biden at a rally in Dallas tonight.

Susan Rice just endorsed Biden -- his first significant Obama-world endorsement.

Will Pete and Chasten get to go out and party with the Dallas gays tonight??

r154

You aren't critically thinking. 11-14%+ is election determining.

Sanders supporters: convince me that a man who has accomplished nothing of note in 30 years, been unable to create meaningful alliances with like minded people on the job in three decades while in the same position, gotten anything useful squared away in his long tenure or even managged to STAY AWAKE during the impeachment of a sitting president (as required and paid to fo) is going to bring about substantial change and revolution?

Convince me with facts. Evidence. Tell me how.

R151 I just can't take anyone seriously who refers to Bernie as Daddy Bernie. I am an adult, and I look at elections rationally. In primaries, I vote for the person who aligns most closely to my own beliefs. If there are more than one, then I take other factors into account (electability, personality, temperament, etc...)

Cultlike devotion to God Emperor Trump, or Daddy Bernie, may be somewhat excusable in the young idealistic electorate, whose brains haven't finished forming. In an actual adult it is pathetic, and would be cause for pity if the future of this country wasn't at stake.

Chris Hayes:

My read of the evidence we have is that it's pretty difficult to make the case that either Biden or Sanders is *clearly* a stronger general election nominee than the other.

Jesus fucking Christ some of you are delusional.

People HATED Hillary Clinton with a passion.

The Bernie vs Hillary memes made it uncool for anyone under 30 to support her

And so lots of people voted against her just to show her up. Because they thought she was an entitled cunt

People may roll their eyes at Biden's gaffes, but nobody dislikes Joe, let alone hates him.

Then there's Trump

In 2016, people who hated Hillary talked themselves into believing that (a) he was just saying it to be elected and didn't mean it, (b) he'd get bored and let Javanka run everything and they were moderates, and (c) he was serious about things like improving the infrastructure and draining the swamp and Hillary was an awful she-devil so why not?

As we learned in 2018, all those people wised up and realized that Trump was more awful than anyone imagined.

So no, Biden 2020 in no way is comparable to Hillary 2016

I'm sure TPTB had a sit down with Steyer, Pete, and Amy.

You all must drop out before Tuesday, and you each get your own day to do it so you all get to trend on Twitter for a hot minute. There will also be a special bonus prize for those who endorse Joe.

And you're even worse at critically thinking, r158, if you think older moderates, which make up way more than 11 and 14% of the electorate, will vote for Bernie. I'd rather lose a minority of a minority of voters than a minority of the majority of voters.

r136, this is not 2016.

This is another referendum on the malignant Trump presidency.

2018 Big Blue Wave v2.0

Pete still gracious:

Campaigning beside @AmyKlobuchar I got to see firsthand the midwestern grit, determination and common sense that our country needs more of. I am thankful for the spirit and humor she brought to this race, and I look forward to working with her to build the country we all deserve.

Good for Joe!!!! He was just at a rally telling everyone to "Be sure and vote on Super Thursday!" ... seriously....

I feel like I'm watching a movie. A satire.

Pete and Amy have jobs secured in a Biden administration.

My guess is Ambassador to the United Nations for Pete, and Veep for Amy.

As noted earlier BernieBro 2016 is not BernieBro 2020

In 2016 a lot of the Bernie supporters I knew wanted more change than Hillary offered, hated her and her entitled attitude, women were pissed that she took a spouse gig and made it seem like she'd been the one who had the job, thought we needed a fresh voice and were glad things like MFA were being discussed again. They were hopeful and felt good about Bernie, they weren't angry. They were pretty rational and most all of them voted for Hillary in the election.

In 2020, the people who are still Berners feel like they're in a cult, with cult-like convictions and fears and purity tests. They have a hard time relating to anyone outside the cult and don't interact much with people outside of it. And they seem to be angry most of the time.

I know my social circle is a small very bougie piece of the world, but that's where things stand now.

And that's part of why people love Joe, R167. Is gaffes are relatable.

And will cost him the nomination/presidency R170

Amy on the ticket is how you lose black voters and Pete voters.

[quote] Pete still gracious:- Campaigning beside @AmyKlobuchar I got to see firsthand the midwestern grit, determination and common sense that our country needs more of. I am thankful for the spirit and humor she brought to this race, and I look forward to working with her to build the country we all deserve.

Thanks, faggot. Now duck.

I'm starting to feel that there's a lot of maneuvering and negotiations going on behind the scenes.

Tomorrow could just get interesting.

Bingo R170

Joe is relatable.

And compared to all the gaffes Twitler makes, Joe's are mild. AND--this is key--he owns them and laughs about them. He doesn't take a Sharpie and try and deny them.

I would love for Amy to vacate her Senate seat for any reason so Franken could return.

There was no reason to hate Hillary. Unless you supported Republican lies.

R170. Those gaffes aren’t going to be so adorable when he starts pulling them on a national stage.

Bernie supporters know this is it for him. And many of them will have no problem doing the Republicans dirty work for them.

Aw, r171, you're adorable if you think Joe's gaffes are worse than Trump's lies.

R176. Still bitter that birthday pony never showed up.

r174, I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall during Sunday School with Carter this weekend...

Funny for all the burnouts cries about how entitled Hillary was, there is literally nobody more entitled than Bernie or one of his cultists. And that is truth.

r164

I'm always seeing people like you downplay minority voters and it's a costly mistake. If their votes didn't matter Republicans wouldn't consistently be so desperate to suppress their votes.

[quote] There was no reason to hate Hillary. Unless you supported Republican lies.

This is 100% why she lost.

Because she surrounded herself with people who made this their truth.

When the reality is that it didn't matter WHY people who otherwise voted for and liked liberal Democrats hated her with the heat of a million suns. Or whether that hate was justified or warranted or the result of A Vast Right Wing Conspiracy™

The fact was that it was there, it was never dealt with, it festered and grew and then it took her down.

All the press and the pundits were wrong...what a bunch of idiots, Uh ate them because they will give our government back to Trump. CNN and MSNBC should be ashamed of themselves and admit they were ignorant assholes, putting down Biden.

I did say that you idiot R178.

R183. There is little difference policy wise between Hillary and Biden. So the excuses for hating Hillary have to do with her personality, which is a pathetic excuse. Like Fran Lebowitz said, you’re not dating a candidate, you’re electing them to get the job done.

If anything Biden is far more corporate friendly than both Clinton’s have ever been.

R128 & R129 I want a woman, it’s about time. For god’s sake, it’s the 21st century. I’m done with old white guys. They’ve been at the top too long. I could have gone with Pete, reluctantly as my back up choice.

R182, I'm not downplaying minority voters. If you follow the actual discussion I'm downplaying the 18 to 29 voters which make up a minority of the electorate.

If you're going to jump into the middle of a conversation at least read the Rs referenced in the posts before commenting.

We're talking about the real world though R186

Not some fantasy land where Fran Lebowitz sets the rules.

I mean she's right, but unfortunately Americans vote for the guy they'd most like to have a beer with.

And everyone wants to have a beer with Uncle Joe.

Biden has the Obama stink on him. going to be a disaster.

[quote]Biden has the Obama stink on him. going to be a disaster.

No potato for you, comrade.

why is the media forgetting the fact that Biden does not have all his marbles anymore? He's simply not viable. Bernie s our only hope.

[quote]Liz will be Biden's VP pick. It would be the best strategic move they could make

That would be. A. DISASTER.

To win the presidency you have to wing the Swing States. End of. Liz Warren, a scoldy, preachy, intellectual school marm, win over the poor whites of the Swing States? In your dreams.

[quote] I want normalcy. I believe Biden can restore normalcy. I don't want revolution, transformation, charisma, or passion. I want incremental change and moderation.

You and 60% of America. The stakes are different this time around. Most Americans had no idea how ruinous a Trump Presidency would be to our well-being and security. The Constitution is in jeopardy. The Republican establishment believes that Trump will lose in November.

[quote]why is the media forgetting the fact that Biden does not have all his marbles anymore? He's simply not viable. Bernie s our only hope.

Bernie is angry old man yelling at cloud. I wouldn't call that "having all your marbles."

Biden is a moderate and would alienate his base if he chose a progressive. It won't be Warren.

R194. Most Americans weren’t paying attention. Hillary warned you time and time again and you failed to listen.

It would be fun if he chose Beto.

Someone has a stapler-sized dent in their forehead today.

He needs a young moderate democrat who can talk to poor whites and connect with them. I'd say Pete is a second, but his gayness could complicate that. I think we are all familiar with how it's still 1950 in Middle America when it comes to sexual orientation.

Bernie fans are already starting in on Hunter Biden, parroting Fux 'News' talking points. I guess it's time to discuss Jane Sanders' $200k golden parachute from that university she bankrupted in Vermont and Bernie's $575k lake house a short distance from his primary residence in Burlington.

By the way, according to the polls, Biden is still the underdog to Deadbeat Bernie, so let's not focus too much on his "VP pick" yet.

r201, not surprising, considering that Bernbots are photo-negative Trumpkins.

The bros are so nasty. Now they are on Twitter and have gotten #WarrenEndorseBernie trending.

Anyone want to contribute anything to what Bernie has done for the poor?

I'll also settle for any noteworthy experience Bernie has to be President.

[quote]Anyone want to contribute anything to what Bernie has done for the poor?

How dare you? Bernie sponsored a bill that became a law, to name a post office in Vermont. The poor, they love that shit.

R204 Well, he abandoned his ex-girlfriend and his 5 year old son to live on welfare so that he could run for Senator as a socialist.

Oh, wait, that's something he did TO the poor. Sorry, about that.

So what did the DNC use to threaten Pete & Amy to drop out. It has their fingerprints on this.

[quote]Obama needs to endorse Biden ASAP.

That actually could backfire, causing Bernie supporters to once again accuse Democrats of "ganging up" on Sanders to stop him from getting the nomination, even though the DNC made changes to ease the path for him.

The post above was accurate. Bern Bros are constantly DEMANDING that supporters of other candidates make lists of what their candidates have done for this and that and/or what experience/qualifications others have to take on the role of President... of course they'll dismiss anything and everything that they're ever presented with.

But when the tables are turned and you ask what Bernie has ever done? Radio silent.

It's the only way to get a Bern Bro to shut up.

r208 Aha - the dreaded DNC are the culprits! Couldn't be that Pete and Amy had no chance of winning the nomination and were out of money? Occam's razor...

r193, Biden himself is supposed to be the appeal to swing-state voters. That's been one of the arguments he's staked his candidacy on, that he could appeal to those white working class, middle-of-the-road voters that went for Trump in the last election. He needs someone beside him that can actually appeal to the other flank of the party that are more predisposed to progressive ideals and policies. Two moderates won't work. Liz would at least give a reason for disenchanted Bernie supporters to consider voting even if it means convincing themselves that they're voting moreso for her than for him.

I really don’t want to vote for Biden *sigh*

I've seen that from a lot of people regardless of who they support R210. This piling on to Bernie supporters is ridiculous. My first choice was Kamala and my second choice is Elizabeth BTW. It is amazing you don't see your own hypocrisy R210.

And what hypocrisy is that, R214? Do tell.

Maybe stay off Twitter

Warren must stay.

I for one hate Joe Biden. He and his machismo Listen, Jack and I'll Do 100 Push Ups Against You, Mack and I'll Jab My Finger in your Chest, Ester Williams routine is just pathetic. His is a total throwback to the mid 20th century. I'll have to vote for him I guess, but God almighty, is 4 years of him going to be hell.

And a reminder again, normalcy is gone and not returning. So you people expecting Biden to be inagurated and then it's magically 2008 again are going to be EXTREMELY disappointed. You should vote for him just for court appointments as opposed to wishing for a return to some phony "normalcy" that will never exist again.

Who's most likely to bring us closer to normalcy? Are all the candidates equal in that respect?

[quote]God almighty, is 4 years of him going to be hell.

Please. Four years of anyone who isn't Trump will seem like heaven. We've been in hell for the past three-plus years.

I completely agree, r220. Plus like most presidents, Biden would just do the fucking job most days, and we would hear from him occasionally. He would notr blabber and bloviate a hundred times and day, and do stupid shit on the regular, like Dopey the Orange Clown does. So chances are, you'd go days or weeks without even hearing from him. Remember what THAT was like? Me neither.

MSNBC reporting that Obama is sending out the word that Biden is the one.

When did they say that R222?

I'd be surprised if he endorsed him his early, but if Biden is nominated (still seems like an uphill battle at this point) Obama better be out there campaigning for him like crazy. I'm not actually too convinced either Biden or Sanders will beat Trump, but I think Obama still has some magic influence that might make the difference.

Amy puts the stapler in the drawer for now. Amy K. on Twitter-

[quote]Pete Buttigieg has run an inspiring and historic campaign. I have so much respect for you @PeteButtigieg and know there are great things ahead. And both John and I are big fans of Chasten!

The Young Turks are freaking out today. "The establishment is overturning the will of the people!!!!!!"

She can be diplomatic and act like a grownup when the moment requires it. Sometimes.

R222, I've been watching all day. No mention of that.

[quote]No potato for you, comrade.

My new autoreply to anti-Democratic posts.

Sanders supporters should be thinking: "Oh great! A narrower field! Here's our chance to pick up some new voters!"

But no. That would be strategic. And involve compromise. And negotiation.

And Sanders has never figured out how to do any of that.

Which is precisely why he's never accomplished anything of note during his thirty years in Congress.

[quote]But no. That would be strategic. And involve compromise. And negotiation.

Why do that when we can just hold our breath until we turn blue?

I’ve decided I’m voting for warren. Although Bloomberg keeps trying to get my vote. Joe with a strong VP choice could get me behind him. He was looking at Sally Yates earlier. She’s from the south and bad ass.

Pod Save America is annoyed and concerned that Biden has momentum.

I just saw the MSNBC report about Obama as well. Not that he will endorse him publicly but that he is sending out the signal behind the scenes to other Democrats that Biden is the one. This certainly appears to be the case given all the sudden coalescing.

May I ask what state you are in, R232?

[quote]I am thankful for the spirit and humor she brought to this race...

That's shade, honey, not grace.

I would love, LOVE to see Stacey Abrams on the ticket with Joe and she would accomplish everything posters upthread have suggested. But does she have what it takes to be President of the United States? I'm a little weary of inexperience in the oval office right now, as I'm sure you will understand.

[quote]The Young Turks are freaking out today. "The establishment is overturning the will of the people!!!!!!"

In other words, “Bernie can’t win!”

Pod Save America is hyping Bernie today. Desperate.

Bernie-Out Michael Moore is on MSNBC sounding desperate and bothered by Pete and Amy dropping out. “The people are not being allowed to be heard!”

[quote] And a reminder again, normalcy is gone and not returning. So you people expecting Biden to be inagurated and then it's magically 2008 again are going to be EXTREMELY disappointed. You should vote for him just for court appointments as opposed to wishing for a return to some phony "normalcy" that will never exist

Perhaps but I'll settle for an Executive Branch staffed with moderately qualified patriots who are not imbeciles. Until Trump, no one realized how critical it is to have competence in the Cabinet and Executive Administration.

There will be no revolution, Bernie cult.

All this underscores the folly of anybody talking VP now.

First, it's presumptuous, seldom a good look.

Second, candidates need vetting. Hello, most of Trump's first picks.

Third, there's no data. Research should be done to understand the characteristics that matter most to the politics of a good pick. (i.e. Steve Bullock or Pete might be awesome in competence, but problematic or low value in terms of broad political appeal. I'd want to poll the hell out of what black Democrats/voters want in a Veep candidate.) Veep isn't a consolation prize, runner up or a merit badge. A good pick supports, strengthens and enhances the ticket. Look at Tim Kaine..... (rolling eyes.)

Klobuchar didn't have a snowballs chance of being president.

Neither dies Bernard Sanders.

R242, there are in fact data out there re the effect of VP choices.

[quote]It helps focus voters on the story that this is essentially a two-person race.

It helps focus voters on the story that this is anti-Sanders death march.

Pod Save America is mourning their favorite, Pete.

Klobuchar surveys her empty campaign headquarters. "All that matters is I lasted longer than Pete did," she says, before dousing the place in gasoline and flicking a lit cigarette.

From WaP{o:

Biden says he would ask Buttigieg to join his administration if he wins presidency

In an interview with a reporter for a Houston TV station, Biden suggested he would invite Buttigieg to be a member of his administration if he wins the presidency.

“I did speak to Pete Buttigieg a couple of days ago, to encourage him to stay engaged, because he has enormous talent,” Biden told KHOU’s Marcelino Benito. “And I indicated to him that if I became the nominee, I’d be coming and asking him to be part of an administration and that he’d be engaged and moving things forward.”

Biden added that he had just heard that Klobuchar had suspended her campaign.

“She is also a great talent,” he said.

Right, R245. Thanks. A lot bob people like current data, too, especially in unusual times.

Pete’s a mensch R166. I hope that he gets a chance to serve in the Democratic administration when they take over next January.

Thanks r245. I've never really been able to get an answer to that, and I'm not sure there really is an answer. So just going by feelings and instincts, I suspect region and state are much less important than gender balance, racial balance, ideological balance. Even though pundits keeps talking in terms of other things, like what state someone might bring, I suspect it's totally beside the point.

And Biden added that he asked Amy to make Hot Dish for his campaign staff.

If you want more Pete, vote Biden.

Damn, her only badass moment r248. I might have to like her after that.

Nate Silver:

Biden has gained 7 points in our California polling average in two days. This is not using any sort of prior about his South Carolina bounce; just the polls themselves.

But what unholy Cream of Mushroom soup based concoction would she make?

Tater Tot Hot Dish

Rice Bake

Tuna-Noodle Casserole

Hamburger Stroganoff?

Should she eschew the cream of mushroom and make goulash?

I wouldn't mind clear eyed normalcy, a normalcy that recognizes that the very abnormal Republican Party leadership is the enemy. Not people of goodwill trying their best in this wicked world, but assholes making this world worse in every way, through bigotry, religious fanaticism, and a truly boneheaded view of the economy and the climate.

Election cycles always end up reminding me of my dating life.

At one point, both men and women are vying for my attention, hoping that I choose them. I hold back, waiting to find my perfect match who will give me all I've been looking for. Then, in the blink of an eye, all of the offers seem to have passed me by, and I am left with only old white guys and tough women from which to choose.

Sigh.

Ms. Susan Sarandon has announced that she will be putting her acting career on hold as she needs time to perfect her resting bitch face before the Democratic National Convention.

Pete Speaks-Eight-Languages-Fluently Buttigieg would make an excellent Secretary of State

R159, back to repeat myself:

Sanders supporters: convince me that a man who has accomplished nothing of note in 30 years, been unable to create meaningful alliances with like minded people on the job in three decades while in the same position, gotten anything useful squared away in his long tenure or even managged to STAY AWAKE during the impeachment of a sitting president (as required and paid to fo) is going to bring about substantial change and revolution?

Convince me with facts. Evidence. Tell me how.

[quote]Bernie-Out Michael Moore is on MSNBC sounding desperate and bothered by Pete and Amy dropping out. “The people are not being allowed to be heard!”

His argument made no sense. Candidates shouldn't be allowed to drop out because some people might want to vote for them?

Well technically nobody really drops out, they only "suspend" their campaign. I imagine anyone who feels a burning desire to vote for Pete, or Amy, or hell, Kamala, can still do so tomorrow.

True. And their delegates do have to vote for them on the first round, IIRC. After that they are free to do as they please.

Unless the candidate releases them, r265, and when the candidate endorses another candidate, it is almost expected that they vote for the endorsed.

Pete endorsing Joe now, live on MSNBC.

Pete was excellent.

Beto as well.

If you want more Pete...

I can confirm that R268

Biden just compared Pete to his late son Beau.

Pete is clearly moved.

Biden is almost saying that Pete will be president someday. 💕

I like this. Pete in the Biden administration. We'll see a lot of him. Chasten needs to go house hunting in DC ASAP.

This may be the first time I've seen Pete express real emotion. I

Biden is giving an incredibly touching speech.

I am voting for him.

^^MSNBC now

OMG Pete almost cried when Joe said Pete reminds him off Beau.

Biden adores Pete. Lovely

Yes, I'm crying.

Beto set to endorse Biden!

I wanna see Joe do one of those from behind hugs on Pete.

Maybe sniff his hair a little.

"I promise you, over the course of your lifetime, you're going to end up seeing a lot more of Pete than you ever are of me."

Joe's a classy guy.

Biden speaks beautifully when it comes from the heart.

I like this. I'll vote for Biden. It means Pete will get a top administration position.

If Trump told a young lady she reminded him of Ivanka, it would mean he wanted to grab her puss and force his three incher into her.

Biden saying a young man reminds him of Beau? BIGGEST COMPLIMENT EVER!

That was really touching.

[quote]It means Pete will get a top administration position.

My Pete is always the top.

Yes he does R283. I hope that speech gets rebroadcast a lot over the next 24 hours and to show Biden's real gift.

You cannot imagine Bernie giving that speech

She’s a Hotdish

Joe, no more Beau. He's gone. Trust me, there's nothing worse than a life defined by the loss of a child.

That was pure class. I'm touched. We need more of this.

Bernie would never say anything so openly heartfelt, R288, or feel anything so deeply for someone unless it brought attention to how amazing could make Bernie look to other people.

Marianne Williamson and Dick Van Dyke have endorsed Bernie. That's huge!!!

Beto is going to endorse him too.

(FYI, Beto O'Rourke was a sort of photo Pete Buttigieg, a former Congressman from Texas who captured the hearts, minds and sexual fantasies of many during his attempt to defeat Lizard Ted Cruz in a Senate race and then a brief, circular and erotic yet aimless quest for the Democratic presidential announcement. Since dropping out, he's been playing Hamlet to subdued reaction.)

To be clear, Beto endorsing Joe, not Bernie. Or Liz.

Beto's finally useful! 🏆🥇

Bernie isn't about heart. He means well, in his way, but he's all about anger.

Biden wishes Pete was his son and not that fuck-up Hunter.

HOTDISH

[quote]Amy sure as fuck didn’t drop out before Super Tuesday and immediately endorse Biden without having a deal in place for VP. She’s not a novice like Mayor Pete.

10:1 Pete asked for nothing but to help.

Amy doesn't have much to offer to begin with, and you know neither Bidden nor his team will want to deal with that.

Amy just needs to help in Minnesota.

Is there video of Pete and Joe?

So even though Obama didn't do one thing to help non rich black people they will love Biden just because a black president who basically told them to fuck off endorses him. That doesn't speak well for black people. I think they deserve, as a whole, to be thought of better than that.

I know people make fun of Elizabeth and her plans, but some pundit said Elizabeth's plan actually helps black people more than any other candidate. I'm going to have to google that now.

R304 is trying for the bonus at the troll farm tonight.

I think the video will be out soon. It was great. I feel much better.

Meanwhile Bernie is on Anderson being super angry.

[quote]Meanwhile Bernie is on Anderson being super angry.

So it's a day that ends in Y?

[quote]That doesn't speak well for black people. I think they deserve, as a whole, to be thought of better than that.

I've got an idea! Let's let black people decide what's good for them and you find a way to support your losing candidate by taking a run at Biden that doesn't involve speaking on behalf of anybody else. I say this only for myself. Have a nice day.

Blacks are low-information. And they do vote as a monolith, despite claims to the contrary.

Pete has never looked so good.

It probably does R305

Warren's problem isn't that her ten thousand plans are bad.

It's that she's not CEO material. She's a behind the scenes planner type, COO or CSO.

She will be a great asset to President Biden

FF r311

I'd love to have a President who is both tough AND compassionate, completely unlike what we have now.

I'd also love to go back to the way Presidents used to communicate with the public- we didn't hear much from them unless something big was happening. Mr. President, do your work behind the scenes and leave us along. Just give us a break from all the fucking noise of Trump's Twitter account and his helicopter press conferences. DO YOUR WORK and shut the fuck up. Maybe we could get that with Biden and company, and God, what a relief that would be.

And what is Bernie angry about? He doesn't get to control what other candidates decide to do. What's the matter? He pissed he didn't get enough time to hack in to their databases?!?!?!

Lord, Beto is so fake.

He's only endorsing Biden because he wants back in with Washington Democrats. He became a polarizing figure for a while, and wants to inch himself to the middle again.

Pete, on the other hand, WILL be president one day. I'm claiming that now!

Well, he won't be the first one to pull that trick.

Pete has also made some kind remarks about Amy. The healing has begun.

R314, blocked years ago

[quote]Meanwhile Bernie is on Anderson being super angry.

Given his age and recent heart attack, Bernie should be more careful about making his blood pressure spike.

"Anyone want to contribute anything to what Bernie has done for the poor?"

By voting against the Brady Bill/gun control, he helped make it easier for the poor to get shot at by criminals and malcontents.

Biden/Warren. Heart and Brains for the win.

I love Joe Biden. Bernie would never have the grace and class that Biden had in his speech about Buttigeig. Bernie is just a ball of anger who is very singular in his thinking to a point where I think he's an Aspie.

Didn't have time to read the last 200 rants but I'm glad the soul sucker is out of the race.

[quote]Pete still gracious:- Campaigning beside @AmyKlobuchar I got to see firsthand the midwestern grit, determination and common sense that our country needs more of. I am thankful for the spirit and humor she brought to this race, and I look forward to working with her to build the country we all deserve.

Thank you. And to show you how graceful I am, Pete, I'm going to give you a three-second head start before I launch this burgundy Swingline at your perky little ass.

[quote]Bernie's $575k lake house

It's a camp, thank you very much! And a LOT of people have them.

Apparently Burnie was in LA over the weekend and the local news asked a bunch of the people in attendance, his cultists, if they would vote for the Democratic candidate should Burnie not get the nomination.

A large number of those asked said NO. That they were ALL IN for Burnie and if he doesn't get the nom they'd write him in.

[quote]Pete Buttigieg has run an inspiring and historic campaign. I have so much respect for you @PeteButtigieg and know there are great things ahead. And both John and I are big fans of Chasten!

And now with her interior monologue

Pete Buttigieg has run an inspiring and historic campaign, like me. I have so much respect for you @PeteButtigieg you little small-town shit and know there are great things ahead, for me. And both John and I are big fans of Chasten, a real gay!

[quote]Pod Save America is annoyed and concerned that Biden has momentum.

All of them, unanimously?

Or one of their nobody guests who once knocked on doors for Obama in Iowa 13 years ago?

HAWTDISH

[quote] I’ve decided I’m voting for warren. Although Bloomberg keeps trying to get my vote. Joe with a strong VP choice could get me behind him. He was looking at Sally Yates earlier. She’s from the south and bad ass.

Harris should be VP. Yates should be the AG and have free rein to investigate and prosecute every Trump family member and associate.

Harris is not well liked by the African American community. It would be a mistake to make her VP.

DL: doesn't nominate, R333, it casts.

[quote] Will Pete and Chasten get to go out and party with the Dallas gays tonight??

Pete is not interested in gays or being gay. He wants to hang with straight guys.

R335 yeah he wants to hang with straight guys but too bad most of the time he has a dick in his mouth

[quote]Principles before Party. If more Republicans and Democrats were like Bernie we wouldnt be in such a terrible place with our current president....Bernie or bust!!

If if if if. If more Repub and Dems were like anything, we wouldn't have the Orange-Faced Turd we have now sitting in our WH. But here we are, aren't we.

The sad reality for the Bernie Bros is that their man isn't electable in the main contest. And the alternative if positively unthinkable to a wide majority of people. It's too bad, but time and place. It's not "Principles before Party", it's Country before Party, before personal taste, before personal leanings. It's the entire future at stake here, we cannot FUCK IT UP.

Biden sucks. Good luck with the white working class vote.

There is blood of thousands of American men and women on Joe Biden's hands.

There is blood of thousands of American men and women on Joe Biden's hands.

I don't see Biden having much trouble with the white working class voting bloc in the GE, esp when he's up against Trump.

Biden himself springs from the white working/lower middle class, and often speaks of this. White working/lower middle class men - over 40, which is a large group - will embrace him without problem.

R341, no they aren't. You are extremely out of touch. I'm guessing a coastal elite?

Good grief r340 this isn't 2004. You think Biden's support of a questionable war from years ago will affect those swing voters who will be choosing between him and TRUMP? You'll have to do better than that.

r342 get a grip I'm a MODERATE, centrist-to-left-of-centrist Dem. Biden doesn't attract the 'coastal elites' - that would be BERNIE in full.

R341, This isn't the 1970s, Gramps. Mr Washington hasn't done a single thing to help anyone but the 1%. The white working class demographic was done with Obama by the time he left office because he didnt realized they got played like fools. They will roundly reject this dementia ridden corporate shill just like they did Hillary Clinton.

Voted in CA for him two weeks ago.

[quote]They will roundly reject this dementia ridden corporate shill just like they did Hillary Clinton.

Sure they will Che. And then they will promptly HAND THE GENERAL ELECTION to Herr Trumpster by a wider larger margin electorally than she ever did (and come in 2nd in the overall gross vote by a large margin as well, which Hilary actually won handily).

2016 is in the rearview, time to put it there. You're not up against your nemesis Hilary - who's long gone home, sitting comfy in Bedford (or wherever) tonight. Wake up It's 2020 and the nemesis of us fucking all is a psychotic MONSTER who will stop at nothing to take over for another four years none of us will come out of whole.

We're not allowing you to hand it to him. EVER.

R343, once again showing how out of touch you are. There are whole communities that were devastated by the Iraq war. When they see that on TV they aren't going to like it.

R346, Obama's VP is just as hated as Obama and Hillary are. Dementia man's gonna lose.

When you see a wounded vet, or meet an orphaned child, remember the part Bernie played.

"Whole communities" - where? Qom? They're fighting coronavirus right now, they'll be lucky if anything is left in a few months.

What whole communities do you speak of dear? The ones in the US who - whether they agreed with the war or not - proudly sent their sons and daughters off to the Mid East to fight? Those working class families - some Gold Star - many of whom proudly support our military for generations? You think those people will vote for Bernie? who's never served a day nor been a military hawk - and not the obvious moderate choice. You are delusional.

[quote] Obama's VP is just as hated as Obama and Hillary are. Dementia man's gonna lose.

Here's a secret little one: crazy old finger-wagging bentover man isn't gonna win either! And has much less of a chance. Sorry!

(and Obama is hardly hated, he's widely beloved and respected by the party and many of the Independents who make up the swing voting bloc).

R350 thought Hillary Clinton was going to win too. Turn off the CNN and go see America. The real America.

If Biden's the nominee prepare for a repeat of 2016 except without the popular vote.

I can’t help but to over-analyze why Pete wasn’t with Amy and Beto. Could Biden be considering him for VP? I adore Pete and have supported him from the beginning, but I do not believe he’s the right fit for VP if it’s Joe.

I think Eric Holder would be an excellent choice. John Fetterman (sp?) of PA would be a fucking LOCK for PA, OH, WI, and MI. I would love Duckworth but she doesn’t want it. Sally Yates is incredible. Cheri Bustos will be the next Nancy, she would be amazing. There are other mayors that I love, especially the former New Orleans Mitch Landreiu, who is beloved by the black voters of NO, and he would squash Pence like the roach he is....SUSAN RICE. John Fetterman is unbelievable, makes me proud again to be Dem.

Normally I wouldn’t think this way, but in this cycle I don’t believe gender and race are the biggest influence on voters. I really think voters are begging for a ticket that will kick Trump’s fucking fat ass — it really is about the ticket projecting immense strength and confidence, it needs to 100% convince voters that it blows away Trump. Like, it needs to make Trump voters actually feel ashamed of repeating their stupidity again! They should be publicly crucified by our party. Start using the talking point that they hate America, that Trump hates America, that Pompeo hates America, that John Roberts hates America. Turn all their hate right back at THEM. Perhaps the candidates can use proxy Congressional peeps to deliver this negative message. Someone needs to....

In a perfect world, I would like a minority female for VP. And that person may be out there but just hasn’t received national media attention? Remember how McCain plucked Palin out of nowhere? No one had even heard of her. Maybe Biden has a POC and/or female candidate who has thus far flown under the national radar.

It goes without saying that the person Joe picks should also not cost us a House or Senate seat. Most white women and blacks will stand by the party and vote for a white man even though they desperately want (and deserve) a woman or non-white — most understand this is literally our last shot, this isn’t the time for tantrums. Straight white men? They are easily swayed to not support a woman VP because of their sexism. My thinking that gender/race don’t matter this cycle because the only “weak” link in the chain for Dems are white straight males. If we can convince them the ticket is playing hardball, we can win. If Dems just start swinging *hard*, we can still win this thing.

Pete should have stayed in. He would have gotten third place on super Tuesday and racked up some delegates. He could have taken them to convention and gotten a VP slot or maybe walked away with the nomination. Biden and Bernie have some serious faults..

I wish Pete was more selfish sometimes especially if the media won't even give him credit for this.

No, Pete's judgment was better than yours. The way the state primaries will play, Bernie in multi-person races would never be catchable in delegates. He needs to be stopped now.

Pete was a king tonight. And I loved that ass kissing speech Biden gave in Pete's honor to thank him.

Agree, R357. I loved every smooch. And, he deserved it, too.

How about everytime I think of Sandy Hook or a school shooting or mass murder, by gun violence, I think of Bernie Sanders who has taken $$$$$ from the NRA and voted against The Brady Bill more times than post offices he's gotten to name, which is the highlight of his thirty year senate career, R349?

How about THAT, R349? Is that good for you, Bro?

Want more Pete? Want to see him rise to the presidency?

Vote for Biden, who's going to make Pete an important member of the new administration.

Sorry to the other thread. You didn't post soon enough and your thread died lol.

R354? I love your Susan Rice idea. I hope others are looking at it.

Rice wrote a couple of NYT op-eds over the past few months. I'm assuming that wasn't random.

I like her as a VP pick as it keeps the Obama chain and she's not going to make White People roll their eyes and say she was only nominated because she's a black woman the way a Stacey Abrams might.

Susan Rice has a mid level (?) name recognition and a track record that makes her the most credible suggestion I've seen for a black woman as Biden's Veep.

And while we're at it, why does Stacey Abrams have the same names as thousands of 60 year old Jewish women?

[quote] It goes without saying that the person Joe picks should also not cost us a House or Senate seat. Most white women and blacks will stand by the party and vote for a white man even though they desperately want (and deserve) a woman or non-white — most understand this is literally our last shot, this isn’t the time for tantrums. Straight white men?

Straight white men are Trump's core constituency. He is the supremely-entitled, unchecked id of the straight white man. Straight white men have the least to lose under a Trump second-term. We cannot convince them to turn against their guy. Trump also got a decent chunk of white women -- who apparently don't mind being grabbed by the p•ssy.

Focus must be on the voters who stayed home in 2016 because they did not like HRC, felt taken for granted or failed to fully grasp the inevitable horror of a Trump presidency. A white male VP will not solve that problem.

You mean he got the majority of white women

A pox on all of your 78-year-old dementia-prone houses!

How the fuck did we end up with three 78 y.o. men still in the running and all of the sub-70 y.o. candidates dropping out?

I'll vote for Warren if she's still running by the time my state gets to vote. She is now the fresh young progressive voice in the race. I mean comparatively speaking.

Joe Biden is 77. The youngest man in the race!

Tulsa is still in the race.

[quote]Tulsa is still in the race.

Like it matters one way or the other.

r 366, you can say/write "pussy" here. It's OK, hon. No one will know you did, or think you like it,