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Bloomberg bought and paid for every one of his shills on Datalounge

Don’t fall for their b.s. He’s paying Instagram influencers to create memes for him, his ads are on TV round the clock on every channel, he’s bribing mayors with donations for their cities in exchange for their endorsement.

Bloomberg is a REPUBLICAN. He’s a billionaire class warrios, a racist and a sexist. His record in New York is rife with police brutality, illegal arrests and blatant racism.

He’s Trump II. DON’T FALL FOR IT.

by Anonymousreply 210February 20, 2020 4:03 AM

I agree. His sudden hype has been weird and really doesn't feel right to me.

by Anonymousreply 1February 15, 2020 11:36 AM

New York City has a Two Term Limit for mayor. Mike paid-off City Council members who gave him a third term.

by Anonymousreply 2February 15, 2020 11:49 AM

I hope I get my check soon, OP!

I was just supporting him because he's the last chance we have seeing how all the others are afraid to fight Trump back. Liked a few of them but none can kill the beast.

by Anonymousreply 3February 15, 2020 11:53 AM

He's just following Bernie's example.

by Anonymousreply 4February 15, 2020 11:55 AM

The paid Bloomberg shilling is going to get worse. We’ve seen how bad it can get when movie studio publicists hype movies on DL and Bloomberg’s budget is many times larger.

by Anonymousreply 5February 15, 2020 11:58 AM

All the Dems need is a competent partisan politician who is fairly liberal. Obviously, that is too hard for them. Kamala Harris and Cory Booker must be kicking themselves for dropping out.

by Anonymousreply 6February 15, 2020 12:02 PM

LOL @ being paid. On DATALOUNGE? Madam, you forget yourself and where you are. No one gives a shit

Frankly, I think you're projecting, OP. It seems the people who are starting endless threads about him have a vested interest in spreading hate for him.

by Anonymousreply 7February 15, 2020 12:03 PM

And to Op's point, this Bloomberg = Trump 2.0 crap is just as convenient as the "Hillary is no different than Trump" bullshit we heard 4 years ago. Cut the crap Op. No one, absolutely no one on DL thinks that a man as rich and power hungry as Bloomberg is a man of the people. But, I am voting blue no matter who for three reasons. One, I want to send a steaming pile of fuck yous to Trump and his racist supporters. Two, we are in serious need of medical reforms and infrastructure investments. Even a guy like Bloomberg would work with Dems on these issues. Three, the most important reason for my support of Bloomberg, Pete, Warren, Sanders, Jon Bon Jovi, Hillary Clinton, Jimmy Carter, or anyone else that is our 2020 nominee is the SUPREME COURT! Nothing will matter if we keep giving away seats to satisfy our "morality". Hopefully, one of the R seat holders will croak within the next 4 years so a Dem can start shifting the court back into our favor.

A Bloomberg SP and lower court nominee will be 100 times better than anyone Trump/Heritage Foundation puts up. On an management level, Bloomberg is a very good administrator. He runs a tight ship, that actually hires the best peoples, and fires the rest. Will he favor the wealthy? Yes. But so will all the other candidates minus Warren and Bernie. Now is not the time to split hairs, we have a court to protect. Bloomberg might be a monster, but I'd rather have him be our monster. We can worry about all the other shit in 2024.

I'm black, most of the Presidents we've had to vote fore are racist assholes. What's one more vote, when we have the favored candidate of white supremest in Trump?

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by Anonymousreply 8February 15, 2020 12:04 PM

I’m not a paid shill! I just want Dump gone and right now Bloomberg is getting attention for fighting the orange orangutan.

by Anonymousreply 9February 15, 2020 12:08 PM

I'm sorry, I meant "people", not "peoples". Additionally, it's "for" not "fore". Still waking up.

P.S. I think more black people will vote for Bloomberg, warts and all, than white liberals will like. He is soaking up more of Biden's black support. We know who he is. Similarly supporting someone like LBJ, sometimes you've gotta take the best of a bad situation. Black people see Trump as a direct threat to our rights, though we don't make a big stink because we've been her before. Obama, was just a short rest from the constant racist attacks from the WH. Been like this since the beginning.

by Anonymousreply 10February 15, 2020 12:11 PM

Thanks you OP for posting the truth post about the man who is not really a democrat and is not a patriot like our good president Donald Trump, who love the homosexualists at this good Patriot site. We must all fight every democrat bad person whom we don't like and post the bad things about them. You are to be congratulated for showing us that the bad Bloomberg is not someone who is to be a good president.

by Anonymousreply 11February 15, 2020 12:11 PM

I wonder if other people are getting really kind of pissed off at him with these around-the-clock ads clogging up the airwaves?

by Anonymousreply 12February 15, 2020 12:11 PM

OP. Is full of shit. Bloomberg did a great job as mayor in many respects. I didn’t vote for him his first term and that proved wrong. I then enthusiastically voted for him. Very smart, with integrity. Bernie bros can’t stand that he’s actually done something

by Anonymousreply 13February 15, 2020 12:13 PM

I'd love to see Bloomberg if for no other reason than it'd really get under Trump's skin, which I know is pretty thin to begin with, but it would be kind of fun.

by Anonymousreply 14February 15, 2020 12:14 PM

R12 no we are not. They are good commercials that everyone needs to see. Dump clogged up the airwaves in 2016 with his hideous behavior and now we have someone who is going to drown him out. That’s good.

by Anonymousreply 15February 15, 2020 12:14 PM

Pissed R12? Most of us who hate Trumpism (dear god I hate that that is even a thing) get a little aroused every time we see a Blooberg ad. Must be how the deplos felt in 2015, except we want to end Trump, not brown people.

by Anonymousreply 16February 15, 2020 12:16 PM

r8

Just more BS to dodge voting for Bernie. Pools consistently show that Bernie has the best chances against Trump. Even with Bloomberg raping the airwaves, Bernie tops him.

by Anonymousreply 17February 15, 2020 12:20 PM

People outside of NYC really don’t understand what he is. I was living there his entire term. His buying of a third term was absolutely outrageous and hugely opposed. He is a Democrat in NAME ONLY. His continuation of the stop and frisk policy was truly disgusting. He was a shit mayor. He has ZERO qualifications for President other than he’s massively rich. Do not fall for it. He’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing who has a MASSIVE ego that would be a direct extension of Trump’s. He is a dangerous narcissist just like Trump, he just hides it better.

DON’T FALL FOR IT.

by Anonymousreply 18February 15, 2020 12:22 PM

He is a pretty decent compromise candidate who can beat Trump and provide a lot of entertainment doing so. Like Hillary Clinton In 2016,

Bernie Sanders has crowded out the competition. There is more support for moderate ls, but it is split in too many directions. Barring a second heart attack, Bernie is unlikely to lose support because his people would rather lose than compromise. Anyone who understands American politics knows Bernie is likely to get shellacked and cause Democratic losses in Congress.

So yeah, one term of Bloomberg seems ok to me.

by Anonymousreply 19February 15, 2020 12:23 PM

Btw, I fucking hate Bernie. He can drop dead for all I care. He’s ruined the Democratic Party.

by Anonymousreply 20February 15, 2020 12:25 PM

Agreed r16. Bloomberg, feels like that rich uncle willing to bail us out of this gigantic bind. None of the candidates feel capable of taking on Trump. Biden just isn't mentally there. Pete is new, copying Obama's speech pattern, but most of all gay which is a non-starter in many battle ground states.

r17 some people simply don't agree with Bernie. But if you read my message I said I will vote for Bernie or anyone else that wins the nomination. I don't give a damn about policies at this point. I want Trump out, and a Dem friendly person to take Ginsberg seat. She is going to die sometime, you realize that right?

Trump was once a Dem, but become all in with the Republican Party. Bloomberg is likely to do the same because he's a guy that likes to get shit done. Even if he doesn't he has enough money to make both Parties get along to get shit done. r18, NYC became safer and cleaner under Bloomberg. Stop and Frisk was terrible, and shouldn't be defended, but if it's Bloomberg vs Trump in November, should we let that stop us from voting for him? Should we just give Trump the Presidency because broke artists can't afford their apartments in Brooklyn anymore or any other DL gribe about the gentrification of NYC? All major cities of note are gentrifying, that's a byproduct of a true global economy.

NYC is still building and the employment rate rose under Bloomberg's reign. Besides all of that, we need to protect the Supreme Court. Vote for your preferred candidate in the primary, then put on your big boy panties and vote for the Democratic Party's nominee.

As a reference, many of you might find that you hate your company's CEO. He or she may also be a heavily flawed leader, but I bet you still show up to work on Monday. If you can work for a bastard, then you can take the 2 seconds to circle in a box to vote for another one for President, if that is your only option. Just please don't fill in the circle for Trump or sone 3rd Party kamikaze candidate.

Together we can take down Trump. Like Trump with Republicans, Bloomberg might surprise you. I can guarantee that Trump without another election will be even worse than he was this term. At this point, I'd personally dig up Bush I and re-elect his corps. This is a dire situation.

by Anonymousreply 21February 15, 2020 12:33 PM

r18 which of the candidates besides former VP Biden, are qualified to be President. Bloomberg ran NYC, a city larger than the populations of some states. He wielded more power and influence than most governors. He's run a business with thousands of employees. I'd say he's as qualified as anyone else on stage, minus Biden. This is a position to leading the Executive Branch, Bloomberg is a true executive in every sense. If Trump can sit in the chair and preside over one of best economies in modern American history, then Bloomberg could do the job in his sleep.

by Anonymousreply 22February 15, 2020 12:36 PM

I hope Bloomberg wins.

by Anonymousreply 23February 15, 2020 12:39 PM

OP, at this point, I am for anyone who is against Donald Trump. You sound like a MAGA idiot.

by Anonymousreply 24February 15, 2020 12:41 PM

OH look! The rich white man is here to save us

by Anonymousreply 25February 15, 2020 12:57 PM

My vote is for sale

by Anonymousreply 26February 15, 2020 12:59 PM

R25 = black

by Anonymousreply 27February 15, 2020 12:59 PM

Bloomberg’s money has spoken.

by Anonymousreply 28February 15, 2020 1:05 PM

Look. I'm glad Bloomberg's in the arena. He's attacking Trump. He has pledged he will support the efforts to defeat Trump whether he's the nominee or not. I'd be more concerned about the paid and unpaid shills trying to be negative, divisive and aggressively trying to demonize candidates. I know this game. Damage anyone who appears best able to defeat Trump.

I'm not supporting him right now. I'm supporting Warren. And the person who is our nominee, flaws and all, better be someone who has a lot to prove and will not take us for granted. I want someone who is going to work their asses off and do the right thing. Pete, Elizabeth Warren and Amy Klobuchar are the ones I believe will work their asses off to prove themselves. They respect our Constitution and they respect the Law.

I don't know enough about Steyer, but he gets on my nerves. Joe seems worn out, and Bernie is a chaos agent, Trump's mirror image on the Left. When is the Media going to investigate Jeff Weaver? What is more important right now is that we turn off the noise machines and get involved with efforts to make sure our votes count. Make sure we know who the local candidates are and work to get them elected to the state Legislatures and other down ballot races. Our city and our county governments, and our state government is where a lot of terrible shit happens when you don't pay attention.

by Anonymousreply 29February 15, 2020 1:09 PM

#NeverBernie

by Anonymousreply 30February 15, 2020 1:10 PM

I understand the paranoia online. It's well deserved, but I am not a paid shill re: Bloomberg. And I will vote for Bernie if he wins the primary, but [italic]only[/italic] if he does.

by Anonymousreply 31February 15, 2020 1:31 PM

Bernie is a Russian asset like Trump.

#NeverBernie!

I LIKE MIKE!

by Anonymousreply 32February 15, 2020 1:34 PM

I'm not sure where I will go after Warren bows out. But I'm leaning between Pete and Bloomberg.Biden was my second choice, but he's more of a walking corps than Warren at this point. But Pete just annoys the crap out of me with his dollar store brand Obama speech pattern and unnecessary word salads. I agree, Obama was an amazing man, but please, can someone on Pete's team help him find his own image. Bloomberg sounds mousey to match his limited hight. It would be a shit show to have him and Trump battle, but I'm here for it hunty! People want to see DC shake, let two titans like Bloomberg and Trump go head to head. Bernie does nothing for me, but I'm a trooper that will give him my vote. His policies at least are geared towards helping me everyone else I know, but he goes too far, which is why Warren was a good fit. If only she had a dick.

by Anonymousreply 33February 15, 2020 1:34 PM

Trumper at R33 mimicking Trump making fun of Mike's height.

by Anonymousreply 34February 15, 2020 1:36 PM

I want to see Bloomberg on a debate stage as well, rather than the slick guy in his carefully edited ads.

by Anonymousreply 35February 15, 2020 1:38 PM

If the only way to take back our government is to buy it back, Bloomberg is the guy to do it. He is not afraid to stand up to carnival clown Trump and knows where to kick him so that it hurts. He has unlimited resources and is motivated by the desire to take down Trump.

by Anonymousreply 36February 15, 2020 1:46 PM

Do-nothing Bernie will not save us.

by Anonymousreply 37February 15, 2020 1:49 PM

[quote] I want to see Bloomberg on a debate stage

I agree. The media is guaranteed to give him softball questions, but the other Democratic candidates will savage him.

by Anonymousreply 38February 15, 2020 1:49 PM

I don't like Bernie, and I get wanting to beat Trump at all costs. But Bloomberg is not the one. He cannot be trusted. As soon as he wins he will go back on any policies he promised democrats. He has doen that sort of thing his whole career.

by Anonymousreply 39February 15, 2020 1:51 PM

"I don't like Bernie, but..." is the new "I voted for Obama twice, but Hillary..."

Beware.

by Anonymousreply 40February 15, 2020 1:54 PM

r39

People are avoiding that all polls show that Bernie is the best one to face Trump. He has the best chances of any Dem candidate.

I don't get why these people have such an irrational hatred for Bernie that they're putting a billionaire who bought his way into the election before him. And even with the recent hyping of Bloomberg, Bernie is still dominating and beating out the competition. People are getting desperate and I don't get it.

by Anonymousreply 41February 15, 2020 1:58 PM

Never voting for Putin's assets.

#NeverBernie

#NeverAOC

by Anonymousreply 42February 15, 2020 2:12 PM

Putin's asset is Trump. Pretending otherwise is ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 43February 15, 2020 2:13 PM

r41 I personally don't like Bernie's idea of overpriced plans with no pathway to implementation. His idea for healthcare alone would cause the loss of thousands of jobs. Not to mention bankrupt the country under our current revenue. Good luck on pushing tax increases.

Since his plans will never become a reality while he's alive, why should the party wear that noose around our necks as we enter into a critical general election? I am for medicare for all, but at a gradual pace. Let's work on a public option now, get that right, then gradually shift towards a more expansive setup in the 2030s. The country at large isn't even liberal enough for Bernie's plans, which is why a majority of states voted for the most destructive man to sit in the White House since Andrew Johnson and Jame Buchanan. You really think a country that had an absolute fit after the ACA would just shrug it's shoulders and welcome Bernie's Democratic-Socialism? The economy is great, American's aren't going to just take on Bernie and his job killing ideas. This is as crazy as the media's refusal to have the honest conversation about the electorate's taste for a gay candidate. There are lots of glaring issues that must be addressed before the convention.

Like I've said before, if Bernie is our guy he gets my vote and full support till the election. Same for anyone else running.

by Anonymousreply 44February 15, 2020 2:13 PM

Also, in 2018 it was the moderated, not the Bernie supported progressives, that won seat after seat in that blue wave. I know Bernie supporters are exhausted with people ignoring the polls, but we saw similar projections with Hillary. I believe once Bernie is in the General his plans fall flat. He is a paper tiger and people are focused on beating Trump. Bernie supporters appear to be stuck up in the clouds on some moral high ground, with their dreams of transform the system. That's great, but many seem to ignore the immediate threat in Trump.

by Anonymousreply 45February 15, 2020 2:18 PM

It’s delicious how unhinged the Bernie and Pete supporters have become as Bloomberg rises. He has them rattled. And, he should. Also, lol at being paid. Watching the worst of those campaigns - like OP - come apart at the seams is payment enough.

by Anonymousreply 46February 15, 2020 2:18 PM

r44

Yet despite the desperate conservative talking points, pools consistently show that Americans want Bernie's policies.

"The economy is great" - Are you Donald Trump? You realize that most Americans are struggling in this economy, right? Especially the young. Most cannot afford an emergency. Most are living paycheck to paycheck.

by Anonymousreply 47February 15, 2020 2:19 PM

Bernie's plans are bad. But I'll take an ineffective president over a corrupt one or a conservative one. Bloomberg has spoken out strongly in favor decreasing funding for education and increasing the size of the police state.

I would much prefer Bernie trying and failing at single payer healthcare than Bloomberg sucessfully changing our nation for the worse.

by Anonymousreply 48February 15, 2020 2:25 PM

and he's Jewish!

by Anonymousreply 49February 15, 2020 2:26 PM

[quote]OP. Is full of shit. Bloomberg did a great job as mayor in many respects.

You are full of shit. R13, People HATED him! You couldn't even parse out good and bad to try and troll properly. Even people who liked the man knew that when he fucked up he majorly fucked up.

[quote]People outside of NYC really don’t understand what he is. I was living there his entire term. His buying of a third term was absolutely outrageous and hugely opposed. He is a Democrat in NAME ONLY. His continuation of the stop and frisk policy was truly disgusting. He was a shit mayor.

R18 nails it.

[quote]LOL @ being paid. On DATALOUNGE? Madam, you forget yourself and where you are. No one gives a shit

Not how it works at all. You're paid to spread information about a topic/subject. Their job is to generate discussion. Also this board is much more well known than you think. There is no other place on the internet like it and the webmaster posted the daily stats to prove it. Thousands and thousands of people see this board daily.

[quote]And to Op's point, this Bloomberg = Trump 2.0 crap is just as convenient as the "Hillary is no different than Trump" bullshit we heard 4 years ago. Cut the crap Op. No one, absolutely no one on DL thinks that a man as rich and power hungry as Bloomberg is a man of the people. But, I am voting blue no matter who for three reasons.

Oh dear, R8 (and all the other numbers you are.) Here are some tips for your trolling:

1. Great job pivoting after the first sentence but you wrote a whole essay.

2. People on Datalounge don't usually post GIFs unless it's a naked man with his dick out.

3. Posts on Datalounge don't generally get a lot of "likes" unless the post is unusually funny. It's like when we had the threads full of racists and a random post calling someone the N word would get like 30 likes in two hours. That just doesn't happen here.

4. You're not black.

by Anonymousreply 50February 15, 2020 2:27 PM

Everyone is not struggling in this economy. Look at the darn unemployment rate. Yes, that number can mean a lot of things, and doesn't take into account those that stop looking, but every president has used it so by the standard measures this is an economy that any president would love to run on during a re-election. We can debate a lot about Trump, but we have to acknowledge that the current economy is a key point of his support. (Warning: An Anecdote) I've spoken to some Trump supporters, that are rapid foam at the mouth dogs, they say that they refuse to vote him out because the economy is great.

We know some people are hurting, but the majority are actually doing fine. Fine is good enough to win in November.

by Anonymousreply 51February 15, 2020 2:29 PM

r50 you don't know me so don't even try to call me out about my race. I'm black, believe it or not. While we are on this topic what are you?

I can use a gif if and when I'd like. I'm not gunning for likes, I just like having a conversation. Also, I've been on this site for over a decade, I don't need you to teach me the ropes.

by Anonymousreply 52February 15, 2020 2:34 PM

You have to remember, Trump was too incompetent to act out his most authoritarian impluses. Bloomberg will not be.

R51 A measure just as important is wages. And those have been growing miserably slow. Seniors cannot afford their medications, it's a huge problem. There are tons of areas Dems can use to attack Trump's economic record.

The boom we had in the 90s? THAT was a real boom, everyone I knew got a second car for their households, or redid their kitchens, or started taking vacations. That was an economic record that couldn't be beat at the ballot box. What we have now is nowhere close as good or as widespread. Quality of life is decreasing for many people and in a first world country that should never be happening. Just because Trump says something over and over doesn't mean you should believe it

by Anonymousreply 53February 15, 2020 2:34 PM

Why is it so hard to believe that some people support Bloomberg? Goddamn I wish I were getting paid. You have a name or contact number for the people paying?

by Anonymousreply 54February 15, 2020 2:36 PM

I'm still being paid by the anti-Hillary campaign in 2020.

by Anonymousreply 55February 15, 2020 2:41 PM

I can't stand Bernie either sometimes but we don't have any other choice at this point. Warren isn't doing as well as I would have liked and you dumb cunts wouldn't support Kamala when you had the chance. She would have been electable and not too far left. But you fossils had to support twice presidential loser Biden instead and you screwed us all. So we're stuck with Bernie now. You all need to suck it up and vote for him.

Bloomberg would not be a good president! He has a terrible record and Dems wouldn't be able to control him at all once elected.

by Anonymousreply 56February 15, 2020 2:42 PM

I am posting that I would happily vote for Bloomberg over Trump and I am not getting paid for it.

by Anonymousreply 57February 15, 2020 2:42 PM

It’s pretty obvious Bloomberg has hired a boatload of shills to “seed” DL and other sites. Once the buzz is set, other, regular posters pick up the mantra (“hey, he’s better than those flawed candidates”) and the shills recede. Social media takes over.

Buzz subsides, other other candidates supporters (and their relatively few paid shills) push back. Before long, the Bloomberg army re-emerges.

It’s not ideal.

Still [bold] all of them are better than the Trumpster Fire.

by Anonymousreply 58February 15, 2020 2:43 PM

Bernie Bros get a BOGO at Katz's deli.

by Anonymousreply 59February 15, 2020 2:44 PM

I'm still being paid by the anti-Hillary campaign in 2020.

by Anonymousreply 60February 15, 2020 2:44 PM

Anyone who is thinking about this in a linear way is a fool. Putin is perfectly capable of having more than one asset active right now, and the asset may even be an unwitting asset. He's going to use every weapon in his arsenal to insure HE stays in power here. That's right. Putin. He is running his game. Bernie is definitely a coin in his pocket. If there is crazy out here Putin will amplify it.

by Anonymousreply 61February 15, 2020 2:49 PM

Who did I have to fuck around here to get my god damned Bloomberg-shill-for-pay check?

by Anonymousreply 62February 15, 2020 2:50 PM

Seriously, I think the plants are the ones who claim Bloomberg-tolerant New Yorkers are paid plants.

I’ve never seen it to or from any other candidate.

It’s always Bernie supporters against Bloomberg supporters. It’s one way. Always.

by Anonymousreply 63February 15, 2020 2:51 PM

R61 You sound crazy. Do you just believe anyone who isn't a moderate is a Russian plant? We have evidence Trump has met with Putin's people many times. Trump has lots of money tied up in Russia. You no evidence at all Bernie has anything to do with Russian interests

by Anonymousreply 64February 15, 2020 2:53 PM

Comrade Putin! I have most cunning of plans!

Please, tell me Comrade Baldrickov.

Is small website for gossip of elderly homosexual men. Sometimes talks politics and speculate on penis sizes of Justin Trudeau and Pete Buttigieg.

Yes....

We send Macedonians there. Some post about short Jew Bloomberg. Some post about angry Jew Sanders. Some post about homosexual Pete. Then elderly homosexuals become confused and do not know who to vote for.

How many elderly homosexuals we talking about? These men are on the Twitter?

Well no... they are not fans of the technology, but many will vote. Maybe for Angry Jew which is good for Comrade Trump

[italic] SMH [/italic]

by Anonymousreply 65February 15, 2020 2:55 PM

Agreed!!

And he will lose California, having spent nearly $50 million dollars!

by Anonymousreply 66February 15, 2020 2:57 PM

Jill Stein and Bernie are Putin assets.

I LIKE MIKE!

by Anonymousreply 67February 15, 2020 2:57 PM

As I've said on here many. many times I am a moderate democrat , I am black, and I am supporting Pete. But I would be perfectly fine with either Biden or Amy, if Pete doesn't make it.

If Bloomie is the nominee, then I will happily skip my black ass down to the polls to vote for him. He did a great job in New York and I have no doubt that he will do a great job with the country. The only candidate who is a true non starter for me, is Bernie. He's not a democrat nor does he care about the democratic party, he will us destroy us down ballot and in the states, he will not get anything done-except through executive orders, and I don't want 4 years of Bizarro Trump. And no one paid me anything to post this. So fuck off.

And on one final closing note. It gets a little old to have you guys try and explain black voters on here over and over again when you clearly don't know us or understand us and how we vote or why we vote.

And Bernie Bros, I have been a voter now for over 25 years, and I am certain that I have cast my ballot for more than one racist in my lifetime because before they were candidates, they were just regular human beings with regular human being flaws. So please keep on highlighting Pete's race problems, Biden's race problems, Bloomberg's race problems and everyone else's race problems except Bernie's. I don't give two fucks that Bernie was involved in the civil rights movement. It doesn't wash away the fact that he is the wrong candidate and not electable.

by Anonymousreply 68February 15, 2020 3:05 PM

Bloomberg will lose millennials.

by Anonymousreply 69February 15, 2020 3:08 PM

As if they are even voting at all.

by Anonymousreply 70February 15, 2020 3:10 PM

I'll vote for anybody or anything opposite of Trump. With a Bloomberg/Trump showdown, my first reaction is fight fire with fire. But then the fire department usually uses water.

by Anonymousreply 71February 15, 2020 3:16 PM

What a bunch of horseshit. He’s not Trump.

by Anonymousreply 72February 15, 2020 3:18 PM

R68, sure Jan.

(Nah, I’m just kidding. There are some unhinged black-and-white thinkers here who cannot comprehend that others don’t have the same exact feelings and thoughts.)

by Anonymousreply 73February 15, 2020 3:20 PM

R68, sure Jan.

(Nah, I’m just kidding. There are some unhinged black-and-white thinkers here who cannot comprehend that others don’t have the same exact feelings and thoughts.)

by Anonymousreply 74February 15, 2020 3:20 PM

But Bloomberg has the resources to push back against Trump/Putin. Bloomberg is not beholden to the democrats either. Just like Trump was never truly beholden to the republicans. Putin had the republicans already locked down.

by Anonymousreply 75February 15, 2020 3:20 PM

Not only does Trump have a huge firewall of cash, he has the power of the presidency to support his candidacy. This is why I don't understand these progressives and bros who think they are going to win this election with small dollar donations, spit and mud. Wake the fuck up and get your head out of the clouds. If Bloomberg spends a billion dollars of his own money on this race, he'll never even miss it.

by Anonymousreply 76February 15, 2020 3:25 PM

R70 Millennials are closing in on 40 and make up the majority of staffers and people doing the ground level gruntwork for the candidates. Yes they are voting. That meme needs to die and anybody taking their vote for granted risks losing a humongous chunk of the electorate.

by Anonymousreply 77February 15, 2020 3:27 PM

What R24 said. I pray you morons whining are MAGAt trolls.

If you honestly believe anyone running who isn't Trump is LIKE Trump, then you have an IQ in the two digits at most and you're also a selfish scumbag. Don't pretend you're a liberal if you'd so easily allow someone like Trump to get a second term.

I don't know what the fuck the agenda is of some of you assholes, but we currently have a fucking white supremacist handing away every cent to the 1% who is destroying every regulation we have to protect the environment, who thinks he's above the law, who blackmails foreign countries and who wants to do everything to destroy the very foundation of this country. If you think anyone NOT him running is even close to that bad, you're a moron.

Please do the world a favor and drop dead before November if your intention is to vote for Trump or "stay home" if your supposed "real" liberal candidate doesn't get the nomination. You're not a fucking liberal and you're fucking evil if you'd so easily allow Trump to win again. Stupid. Shitheads.

by Anonymousreply 78February 15, 2020 3:31 PM

How do I get a job as a paid shill? I’m retired. I wouldn’t mind making some extra money posting on the net. I’ll do datalounge, Twitter, Quora, 4 chan. I won’t do Facebook. Hate zuckerman.

by Anonymousreply 79February 15, 2020 3:38 PM

Zuckerberg.

by Anonymousreply 80February 15, 2020 3:39 PM

Bloomberg will go down in flames. Blacks and Latinos won’t vote for him.

by Anonymousreply 81February 15, 2020 3:46 PM

I agree anybody who sits this election out because of the democratic nominee deserves a righteous grease fire. Trump & the republicans are the true End Times the evangelicals are always caterwauling about.

by Anonymousreply 82February 15, 2020 3:48 PM

The End Times?

by Anonymousreply 83February 15, 2020 3:49 PM

How can I get me some of that Mike money?

by Anonymousreply 84February 15, 2020 3:51 PM

Yeah. The End of all our gay asses. 4 more years of Trump with conservative judges being appointed every day. Then kiss goodbye every gay right that's been fought for since the 60s & 70s

by Anonymousreply 85February 15, 2020 4:00 PM

Thank you r85! Some of these posters must live in a gated wonderland, devoid of news coverage, because they would really sit at home and allow that orange-fungus four more years of destroying our country. Madness.

by Anonymousreply 86February 15, 2020 4:08 PM

Bloomberg is: 1. Pro-Choice

2. Pro-Gay rights

3. Anti-gun (spent MILLIONS of his own $ on gun control)

4. Pro Environment/fighting climate changes (spent MILLIONS of his own $ on climate change)

5. Supportive of other Democrats in other elections

6. Committed to spending more millions on the Democrat nominee for 2020 even if it's not he

7. he was a republican for approx 4-8 years of his 50-60 year political career,, an Independent for about 4 years, and a REGISTERED DEMOCRAT for the remainder, i.e. the majority of political life

so all you assholes screaming that he is a "not a democrat" or he is as "republican"........... sorry but the facts are the facts.

Now excuse while I go cash my "paid shill" check.........(y'all are really that STUPID to think people who don't agree with you are "paid shills?")

In the words of DeWight of Atlanta : "How dreadful!'

by Anonymousreply 87February 15, 2020 4:09 PM

[quote]Blacks and Latinos won’t vote for him.

Actually, the latest polls show him with growing support among blacks and latinos. It's Pete and Amy who have zero support with them.

Now that someone other than whites are voting, it's going to be a Sanders, Bloomberg and Biden race. Biden seems to be fading fast, so it's coming down to Sanders v. Bloomberg.

by Anonymousreply 88February 15, 2020 4:10 PM

DL: Where apparently Russian shills are just paranoia, but Bloomberg shills are real.

by Anonymousreply 89February 15, 2020 4:12 PM

I can't see Bernie getting anything substantial done if he is elected, because he's been elected to other offices and some of the most substantial things he's gotten through are the renaming of post offices! Therefore, four years of him doing nothing (because no one likes him and I think Congress will balk at his programs/costs) will leave the next presidential election wide open for the Repubs.

For those posting that Bloomberg bought his third term, that isn't true. Some of the city council members (most, if not all, Democrats) were found to have secret (and I think, illegal) slush funds and he got them to vote to have the cap lifted for him. Pure politics.

I am for Pete first. Let's not forget about him while the trolls keep trying to take our attention away. Although they seem to be very shook about Bloomberg (and they should be.....he's a much better candidate that Bernie could ever hope to be).

by Anonymousreply 90February 15, 2020 4:15 PM

He just won my vote. Thanks, Boris!

by Anonymousreply 91February 15, 2020 4:19 PM

And I would like to add one thing to R78's excellent post: if any of you morons think for one second this election is going to be about "the issues" think again. To Donald Trump and his cult followers, this election is about one thing and one thing only: Donald J. Trump. If any of you think the debates, (if there are any) are going to feature Sanders and Trump talking about Medicare for all, or Mayor Pete and Trump debating economic policy, you clearly have your head up your fucking asses.

Get rid of this fucking clown and his enablers before its too late.

by Anonymousreply 92February 15, 2020 4:20 PM

The biggest difference between Pete, Biden, Amy, a Bloomberg as opposed to Bernie is that those 4 actually actually accomplished things during their political careers.

The Bros can't point to one significant thing that Bernie has ever done in his political career other than enable their laziness and offer them free stuff.

by Anonymousreply 93February 15, 2020 4:21 PM

[quote]Bloomberg will go down in flames. Blacks and Latinos won’t vote for him.

Then THEY will go down in flames with a second Trump term. Any minority who allows Trump a second term is a genuinely stupid person and arrogant. I actually like Bernie Sanders, I fucking loathe his supporters. Talk about fucking arrogance and obtuse. "Duh, my really liberal guy didn't get the nomination, so Ima sit here and let the literal white supremacist win, 'cause self-ownin' is really gunna show 'em!"

Bernie appeals to the liberal version of petulant, narcissistic children the same way Trump does to his Fascist, immature trash.

Do you understand that voting LIKE AN ADULT requires you to sometimes suck it up and vote for the lesser evil? And you lack even basic intelligence if you claim Trump and Bloomberg are the same. You couldn't look like a bigger idiot believing this except when you actually say it out loud to confirm your idiocy. I hated Hillary, but I still voted for her even though I didn't even have to since I live in NY. Grow the fuck up and understand that voting doesn't always mean a candidate will be 100% what you want, but if you think a Bloomberg admin would be the same as another Trump admin when it comes to things like the environment, legalizing bigotry/discrimination, women's rights, etc, then how many times were you dropped on your head to make you that stupid?

by Anonymousreply 94February 15, 2020 4:40 PM

I mean there is one guy on here who posts endlessly about Sanders

He appears to be unemployed and borderline insane (the poster, not Sanders) and is certainly passionate.

Bless his heart.

by Anonymousreply 95February 15, 2020 4:50 PM

Well isn't this special. All you supposedly anti-Trump people making sure we all hear the worst about someone who could defeat Trump. Such good liberals you are. So progressive. So... well... Russian trollish.

by Anonymousreply 96February 15, 2020 4:56 PM

It's not enough to be no-Trump or anti-Trump. Don't Dems get that?

by Anonymousreply 97February 15, 2020 5:07 PM

Op should know that the moderates are desperate which is why they allowed shaky voice Amy K to come in 3rd place in NH. She shouldn't even be in the race at this point, but that's how dire the situation is. Sadly, the perfect candidate for these times and the work ahead of us is Hillary, but she's politically toxic.

On to Pete or Bloomberg!

by Anonymousreply 98February 15, 2020 5:07 PM

Why doesn't the dolt at R97 get that Trump is a cult figure, a bully and a narcissist and his cult followers love him for it..

Do you honestly think appealing to Trump's non-existent intellect and seeking to talk about the "issues" with him is a valid plan of action?

by Anonymousreply 99February 15, 2020 5:14 PM

[Quote] Do you honestly think appealing to Trump's non-existent intellect and seeking to talk about the "issues" with him is a valid plan of action?

You don't get it do you. Your kind are even stupider than I thought. Lemme guess, you're for Biden. Haha

by Anonymousreply 100February 15, 2020 5:16 PM

Don't ever try to be a fortune teller or clairvoyant, R100, you won't have a pot to piss in (as if you even have one now).

by Anonymousreply 101February 15, 2020 5:35 PM

He’s not perfect and I agree that the third term he bought was particularly irksome. However, he cannot come close to how awful this current “president” is and is moderate enough to perhaps actually win. I’m not in love with any of the other candidates either, and I doubt any of them can beat that THING living in the White House now. I will vote for whoever the candidate is, but would prefer it be someone electable, and Bloomberg might be the best hope of winning.

by Anonymousreply 102February 15, 2020 6:28 PM

r51

You're living in a fantasy land. Probably because you have your own. But in reality, most Americans are struggling.

You're part of the problem with this country.

by Anonymousreply 103February 15, 2020 7:23 PM

All I know is that with Bloomberg there will be no more crying about the few hundred of million that Trump and company raise compared to the Democrat's dismal campaign hauls, and Trump knows this. Bloomberg will just write a check to ensure he has the data and staff required to compete, because that's the type of guy he is. I swear I am not on his campaign or getting paid lol.

The billionaire Hyatt heir, Governor JB Pritzker, did the same think in IL. He ran against the sitting Republican governor, who was also almost worth a billion dollars (sound familiar), and outspent him and everyone else. In the meantime, Democratic campaigns up and down the ticket received a nice check from their friend JB. Sometimes it take a rich asshole to remove a rich asshole. We just went through one of the most progressive and productive legislative sessions in IL's history. Couldn't have done it without JB.

My favorite part about Bloomberg is that he apologizes once for things and moves on. I give Trump credit for figuring out that little political trick. You don't win people over by apologizing for the same thing ten thousand times. Do it once, either people accept it or they don't, then pivot back towards your talking points.

by Anonymousreply 104February 15, 2020 7:26 PM

r103 ok, I'd like to see statistics that most Americans are struggling. I question if some of the issues are due to spending problems, unemployment or housing costs. I agree that wage growth is anemic. But Trump can counter that by saying, "At least you have a job". It's harsh but that's politics.

The consumer confidence reports shows that people feel good about this economy. We are almost at the DotCome Boom level of confidence, even if the reality shows stagnant wage growth. You can't underestimate the PTSD that the Great Recession caused, may adapted the mindset of being happy for a job above all else. This level of contentment with the President's economy is very bad for Democrats.

If Trump's economy is bad, what do we call the growth under Obama, irrelevant?

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by Anonymousreply 105February 15, 2020 7:39 PM

Adopted^

by Anonymousreply 106February 15, 2020 7:39 PM

r105

We're never going to be appealing to Trump supporters who are brainwashed by the BS. What we need is someone who is going to tell the hard truth and that's Bernie. Most Americans are being ripped off. This current system is not working for most Americans. For the young, who are being hurt the most, it's especially concerning. Bernie will draw out people who realize this system is hurting them more than helping them.

You're picking out certain stats (that help the rich) and avoiding the bad stats. The stats that most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. The stats that wages have only vastly increased for the top. The stats that most cannot afford an emergency. The people dying because they can't afford medical care and medication. The people who are losing their homes because of skyrocketing rent costs and inflation. Etc. Etc. Etc. Americans are not well off and to say they are is only helping Republicans.

And many, many were very disappointed by Obama for not bringing the change they needed. Trump hasn't either. The difference is Trump supporters are brainwashed deplorables and would eat his shit if he asked them to. Obama supporters mostly admit how disappointed we were. In fact, that disappointment demotivated voters.

by Anonymousreply 107February 15, 2020 8:29 PM

SHRIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK!

by Anonymousreply 108February 15, 2020 8:34 PM

Mike Bloomberg could team up with Hillary Clinton to try to take down President Trump in November — by making her his running mate.

Bloomberg’s internal polling has found the combo “would be a formidable force,” campaign sources told the Drudge Report Saturday.

Clinton, who lost her 2016 White House bid to Trump despite winning the popular vote, said last week that she would “probably” not accept an offer to run as another Democrat’s veep.

“I never say never because I believe in serving my country,” she told talk show host Ellen DeGeneres. “But it’s never going to happen.”

But the former New York mayor may press the question

Clinton and Bloomberg were spotted together in December at a dinner with daughter Chelsea, Page Six reported – supposedly to celebrate the birthday of socialite Annette de la Renta.

by Anonymousreply 109February 15, 2020 9:12 PM

Question—where are all these anti-Bloomberg threads coming from?

by Anonymousreply 110February 15, 2020 10:39 PM

The truth about BernieBros:

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by Anonymousreply 111February 15, 2020 10:51 PM

I'm sorry but all of these septuagenarian politicians just need to step the fuck to the side already. It's time to let other, younger politicians lead. It's like the god damn petrified forest there.

by Anonymousreply 112February 15, 2020 11:09 PM

Bernie bros and Pete fans r110. Both feel that their candidate should receive more respect given their placement in the last two primaries. It sucks for them because just as Biden fades away. Bloomberg comes steaming into the race on a freight train full of cash. If Bernie or Pete are worth their political weight, they should be able to take down Bloomberg. Time will tell, but the desperation from both camps gives me a bit of satisfaction since Warren, my preferred candidate, was tossed to the wolves by both camps.

I'll just chill with my furs and wine until it's time for IL to vote.

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by Anonymousreply 113February 16, 2020 12:24 AM

Someone meeds to say it: I don’t particularly care if this economy left you behind. Why is your voice more valid than mime? Same with the “forgotten” Trump voters. We forgot you because you don’t matter. In what universe do those who can’t seem to make it get to rule? If you TOOK OUT student loans you couldnt pay for, isn’t that on you? You didn't come to that way. If you are an underperformer, why do you feel you are entitled to live like anything but that? The entire Bernie phenomenon has given license to people we never had to engage with previously to believe they are somehow central to everything. You aren’t. If you were, you wouldn’t need Bernie, right?

by Anonymousreply 114February 16, 2020 6:26 AM

R114, here's the problem with what you wrote: The wealthiest are literally getting bailed out by the rest of us when they FAIL. They get to socialize THEIR failures, then turn around and fuck us over even more. Yet someone who wants to go to college and learn so they can help society as a whole, should just fuck off and die because they can't afford college? Do you see how much college costs?

by Anonymousreply 115February 16, 2020 6:34 AM

The Bernie-hating [bold]retards[/bold] are out tonight, I see.

Is calling you a retard or retarded offensive to you? I mean, per Oxford, that [bold]is[/bold] what ya are:

[quote] to make the development or progress of something slower

So, retards, keep doing you!

by Anonymousreply 116February 16, 2020 6:34 AM

R115 But, what about the 2% to .02125%? We aren’t billionaires, but we went to good schools and got good jobs only so we could live the kind of life that was important to us. Do you see how galling it is for someone who chose not to do the same, and not to make the same sacrifices, to now to complain that they didn’t have a shot? Yes, you did. Don’t be stupid. Make sacrifices. Play the game you are faced with. If you want a different life, go get it. Stop complaining that Amazon won’t bring it to you. Bernie won’t bring it to you, either. You’re also not on TV or in a movie. Is that not fair? Is that the underperforming next frontier?

by Anonymousreply 117February 16, 2020 6:48 AM

R116.

by Anonymousreply 118February 16, 2020 7:29 AM

r117 If that's the attitude Bloomberg voters are going to have, good luck getting voters on your side! You're going to need it.

by Anonymousreply 119February 16, 2020 7:37 AM

r119 every candidate running has a large portion of the Democratic base acting like babies if their candidate doesn't win. At this point, it's up to the voters to stop acting like children and just support the nominee. If you think Bernie is going to magically sway centrists Dems then I've got a bridge to sell you. Same for Pete/Bloomberg with progressives. Progressive or Centrists the candidate doesn't really matter, the real battle is between the ideologies vs the pragmatists. Ideologues won out in 2016, hopefully they've learned something over the past four years.

by Anonymousreply 120February 16, 2020 9:33 AM

Isn’t it precious over at R117?

Oh honey... Oh HON-EH!

Bernie 2020, Bitch.

by Anonymousreply 121February 16, 2020 11:07 AM

R25 equals racist.

by Anonymousreply 122February 16, 2020 11:14 AM

R122 Let me guess: you’re white?

by Anonymousreply 123February 16, 2020 11:22 AM

R123

by Anonymousreply 124February 16, 2020 12:01 PM

What's happening here in America is the gap is widening between the very wealthy and everyone else, and it is getting more and more difficult to even reach the middle class. All the bullshit about the great economy? It costs more every damned day.

Housing costs are way up. Rents are too. Prescription drug costs are way up. Trump's diligent hollowing out of the Affordable Care Act has caused health insurance rates to go up and to cover less.

And all those states that are red states that brag about low taxes? Don't send your kids to a public school in any of them, unless you want the ceiling plaster to fall on their heads and the mold to asphyxiate them. Oh, and they don't pay teachers or firefighters or police officers very much either.

The minimum wage hasn't gone up in 20 years.And some of those so-called low tax red states have a sales tax that's close to 10% and fees and special taxes for every damned thing.

Our infrastructure is crumbling. How does it affect you? Well, if you're on the freeway and the road collapses into a sinkhole, or floods, or pieces of concrete fall on your car, or your tires get eaten by potholes, or your water has a cloudy yellowish tinge, or your internet is way too slow, and you have a lot of power outages, it might give you pause.

So don't tell me about the great economy, or the stock market, when I have to keep throwing out food because of e-coli alerts. Food safety is non existent and the waters used to irrigate crops is contaminated, but hey, the stock market is doing great.

by Anonymousreply 125February 16, 2020 2:39 PM

Disruptors are all over social media this past week and getting worse with all kinds of rumors and allegations against Bloomberg. They a re smearing him with a very broad brush on racism and sexual harassment, etc. And paying people to "come forward." It's going to be a very mean, very ugly season.

Bernie is a loser. Trump wants to run against Bernie.

by Anonymousreply 126February 16, 2020 2:57 PM

Bloomberg/ Clinton! Sweet baby Jesus NO! Two wrongs do not make a right

by Anonymousreply 127February 16, 2020 2:58 PM

Accept the fact that you are genuinely stupid person if you allow Trump to win again. You are a fucking idiot if you think Bloomberg is anywhere near as bad as Trump. People who have a low IQ think think like that or you're just a genuinely selfish shithead who pretends to care about "issues" and prefers to watch the country go to hell.

by Anonymousreply 128February 16, 2020 3:02 PM

are A genuinely

by Anonymousreply 129February 16, 2020 3:03 PM

are A genuinely

by Anonymousreply 130February 16, 2020 3:03 PM

What's happening here in America is the gap is widening between the very wealthy and everyone else, and it is getting more and more difficult to even reach the middle class. All the bullshit about the great economy? It costs more every damned day.

Housing costs are way up. Rents are too. Prescription drug costs are way up. Trump's diligent hollowing out of the Affordable Care Act has caused health insurance rates to go up and to cover less.

And all those states that are red states that brag about low taxes? Don't send your kids to a public school in any of them, unless you want the ceiling plaster to fall on their heads and the mold to asphyxiate them. Oh, and they don't pay teachers or firefighters or police officers very much either.

The minimum wage hasn't gone up in 20 years.And some of those so-called low tax red states have a sales tax that's close to 10% and fees and special taxes for every damned thing.

Our infrastructure is crumbling. How does it affect you? Well, if you're on the freeway and the road collapses into a sinkhole, or floods, or pieces of concrete fall on your car, or your tires get eaten by potholes, or your water has a cloudy yellowish tinge, or your internet is way too slow, and you have a lot of power outages, it might give you pause.

So don't tell me about the great economy, or the stock market, when I have to keep throwing out food because of e-coli alerts. Food safety is non existent and the waters used to irrigate crops is contaminated, but hey, the stock market is doing great.

Thank you, R125, for not be a disrupted like living-in-a-bubble fake ass loser R126.

How much is Doom paying you, bitch?

by Anonymousreply 131February 16, 2020 3:15 PM

*disrupter

by Anonymousreply 132February 16, 2020 3:26 PM

At least with Bloomberg we will be guaranteed that he will support down ballot democrats, which is really important. We already know Bernie won't do shit for democrats and will do more harm than good.

by Anonymousreply 133February 16, 2020 3:31 PM

I'm surprised at how fickle so many Biden voters are. Some are already willing to abandon Joe and hop aboard this bandwagon of this man who has not even shown up for a debate, town hall, zilch, nada. He's just waving wads of cash around in both hands and that's enough for some.

by Anonymousreply 134February 16, 2020 3:37 PM

There is nothing magic about the debates. In their current form they are nothing more than competition reality shows with the media trying to play gotcha and certain candidates trying to create meme-able moments. The only person who is kept his dignity intact during these sideshow debates is Pete and it has strengthened my support for him.

Bloomberg has a proven record and people already know who he is, so he doesn't need to debate. And quite frankly, there is no guarantee that Trump is going to debate in the general and it isn't mandatory, so who cares about debates, especially in their current meaningless form. .

I really hate what's happening to Biden, because the media really did a number on him. And Trump won because Trump knew that Biden was his biggest threat and everyone played right into his hands and now Joe is fading. Maybe Joe can turned it around. What truly sucks is that democrats have zero loyalty. Joe supported gays when it wasn't popular. Joe has been supporting working class issues forever and you crazy bitches still turned your back on him. At least black people haven't forgotten him.

by Anonymousreply 135February 16, 2020 3:49 PM

[quote] Bloomberg has a proven record and people already know who he is, so he doesn't need to debate.

Correction: [italic]New Yorkers [/italic] already know who he is -- and I know this board skews NYC-centric -- but Amy and Joe in Middletown, Middle America don't. The DNC already knows we need these midwestern states, and so this is who they think is going to connect with these rust belt state swing voters? Another billionaire from a big city waving money around? Really?

by Anonymousreply 136February 16, 2020 3:55 PM

R136, I'm sorry, but that's kind of a dumb take, because frankly, "Middle America" already showed what stupid fucks they were by supporting Trump in the first place; NYers DID NOT. He has never won any office here. He got clobbered in the voting against Hillary. Bloomberg actually won here and I don't doubt that if he could run against De Blasio, he'd win again. Trump was born here and did business here, but no one would ever want him in political office because we know he's a clown. It seems "Middle America" is fine with "billionaires from NY" if they also happen to be glaringly racist and bigoted. They'll ignore everything repulsive about him if the one repulsive quality they like is his prejudice.

The difference between the billionaires is that one is a vile shithead clown born-on-third whose ignorance and racism brought him into the WH because of "Middle America" and the other billionaire is one that NYers actually voted for and despite the issues we had with him, we don't doubt his intelligence, his abilities and his business acumen.

Whether you people like it or not, we have nothing to do with why a philandering, disgusting, ignorant, sexually-harassing idiot who wouldn't know the constitution if it were stapled to his forehead is completely on "Middle America" along with the south.

by Anonymousreply 137February 16, 2020 4:09 PM

Correction: Whether you people like it or not, we have nothing to do with why a philandering, disgusting, ignorant, sexually-harassing idiot who wouldn't know the constitution if it were stapled to his forehead is now president; that's completely on "Middle America," along with the south.

by Anonymousreply 138February 16, 2020 4:11 PM

It is harder to enter into the middle class, but people need to stop trying to rush through life having children in their 20s or wasting their college years on useless degrees. This is a global economy, you're no longer competing with Betty and Mitch, who lived down the street, for a middle wage desk job right out of college. You are now competing in a market that takes into account people across the world and across the country applying for that single position.

I don't know what people consider the middle class anymore, but I've found that people with college degrees easily make enough to join the middle class. Where they get tripped up is marrying their partners then having children before they are financially capable of managing a larger household. I'm not sorry that Americans can't walk out of high school and grab a job that will feed a family a of 4 with a dog. That prosperity came at the expense of millions of other humans across the world being stripped of their resources and exploited.

But, if you get a college degree in a field that's worth something you can find a middle class job. If you get married then you'v double your earning power, if your spouse can work. If you wait until your 30s to have children then you can set a stronger professional foundation.

The middle class is obtainable, but the free for all party that America had is over. This applies to gays in major cities. I'm sorry that NYC is unaffordable for the homeless gay kid that just landed on a Greyhound. All major cities around the world are gentrifying. Thankfully, there are gay communities in many other cities around the US. Have they tried Cleveland or Chicago? We have to let go of the 20th Century.

by Anonymousreply 139February 16, 2020 7:07 PM

r135 Joe is fading because he's mentally not all there. His stutter might be an issues, but every time he talks it's a painful experience for everyone involved. Trump stays on his toes and can dish bullshit by the pound. Biden will look confused and low-energy if he is our nominee. He was given over 4 chances on the national stage to show people that he had the wit and energy to lead the Party, he has failed every time. He is physically incapable to stepping up to the needs of the moment. Trump Ukraine thing was a teaser, and Biden failed to best the President.

by Anonymousreply 140February 16, 2020 7:42 PM

R137, I wasn't blaming NYers for Trump -- my dad is an old NYer, btw -- but I also don't think this is the candidate who is going to win over these midwestern, suburban frau types that we need in states like Wisconsin, Michigan, etc. And with that said, I think I've expressed everything that I feel on this subject, and am moving on....

by Anonymousreply 141February 17, 2020 10:35 PM

R115 sounds psychotic.

by Anonymousreply 142February 18, 2020 3:08 AM

No, R115 is entirely correct. The wealthy socialize their losses and privatize their profits.

by Anonymousreply 143February 18, 2020 4:20 AM

R142

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by Anonymousreply 144February 18, 2020 9:44 AM

R142 Let them eat college .

by Anonymousreply 145February 18, 2020 9:46 AM

[quote][R115] sounds psychotic.

Which part was psychotic rather than truth? The part about taxpayers literally bailing out Wall Street? Ya know, socialism.

You know who else got bailed out by taxpayers? Curt Schilling -someone you would deem "normal" apparently. Curt Schilling is a loudmouth, racist, right-wing "libertarian" shithead, deplorable ex-jock who screams about "handouts." You know what happened with him? He started some shitty company (video games?) which failed. Rhode Island taxpayers had to bail him out.

We've had corporate welfare for a very, very long time. We've also had military welfare for a long time. We're building weapons that end up rusting away because the government is afraid that Lockheed will go and sell these antiquated weapons to some other country. It's also welfare for red states who have no other jobs to offer in some of these states, so building those things is essentially a "jobs program."

It's funny how we have trillions for billion dollar financial institutions and we have trillions for wars based on lies...but the idea of spending on universal healthcare so that we actually improve the health of the population is such an horrific notion.

From 2013:

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by Anonymousreply 146February 18, 2020 4:14 PM

If we elect Bloomberg, we will all regret it and regret it quickly. He believes many of same things the GOP does. He's an authoritarian. He will continue to the decline of America into plutocracy.

I don't like Bernie but at the very worst he will just be ineffective. Bloomberg will do a lot of damage.

He also won't win. The progressive left, about 20% of Dems, will NEVER back a last minute entry billionaire if he's the nominee. It just won't happen. Bloomberg is everything they think is wrong with the world. There aren't enough swing voters in the whole country to make up what we will lose if we nominate Bloomberg. Literally anyone else would be a smarter choice.

by Anonymousreply 147February 18, 2020 4:56 PM

R115 is right. When Goldman Sachs starts to collapse we all have to chip in to pay for it's recovery. It's happened more than once. When Goldman. Sachs has a great year, we get nothing from it. Whether you call yourself a socialist or a capitalist, that is just fact

by Anonymousreply 148February 18, 2020 4:59 PM

[quote]Why is your voice more valid than mime?

I thought mimes were silent.

by Anonymousreply 149February 18, 2020 5:01 PM

first it was steer, I saw an ad on any site at least once a day, now it is bloomberg and it's FIVE times a day

by Anonymousreply 150February 18, 2020 5:03 PM

This "who cares about his flaws, he's better than Trump" shit is a MISTAKE. We already tried this with Hillary and he's an establishment New Yorker just like her.

We need Bernie to face Trump. He has the best chances. Polls consistently show this. Why are people tripping? Bernie's base is the most energized, PLUS if we're really in agreement on "blue no matter who", everyone will get behind him. We need a movement to defeat a movement. No other candidate has that but Bernie.

by Anonymousreply 151February 18, 2020 5:16 PM

we need warren, but baring her, Sanders

by Anonymousreply 152February 18, 2020 5:24 PM

The consensus candidate is Warren. She will unite the party.

by Anonymousreply 153February 18, 2020 5:38 PM

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I will NOT vote for Bloomberg if the powers that be select him as our Democratic nominee

Like, it just ain't gonna happen. I'll vote for Biden, Buttitsagig, Klobuchar - hell, I'll vote for fucking Steyer, but I'm not voting for Bloomberg. The levels of shit (that are completely verifiable by virtue of the fact that most of it he has been caught on tape and video saying within the last decade) is unfuckingbelievab - le. I cannot comprehend how anyone in the Democratic Party (or the Independent, for that matter) can justify this man's words, behavior and actions.

He is no better than Trump and there is nothing you can say that will convince me otherwise. He wears his mask better and tighter, I'll give him that, but he is an elitist, racist, homophone (especially, if as rumored, "he's in the closet") and I don't trust his ass. From extending his stay as Mayor of New York to a third term (hello Maduro in Venezuela!) to banning soda (Communism/Authoritarianism) to all of the vile things that have come out of his puny, decrepit mouth, this man is what is wrong with the establishment personified.

Yesterday I was conversing with a Dem and a Rep and in a moment of intense rage I actually said, "I'll vote for fucking Donald Trump if Bloomberg is forced on us!" I couldn't fucking believe that came out. I was shocked and disgusted by what I had fleetingly entertained. I won't go that far but I will not vote.

Years of smearing Senator Bernie Sanders for some of the craziest off-the-wall lies I've ever read, and you expect us to even entertain this douche bag?

It ain't happening.

by Anonymousreply 154February 18, 2020 5:43 PM

Bloomberg's and Biden's supporters are evidence of why they will not work against Trump. They are not energized or very enthusiastic about them. That's not going to beat Trump.

by Anonymousreply 155February 18, 2020 5:58 PM

BernBros, you aren't convincing anyone but yourselves. Give yourselves a break. Trump will stomp Bernie if he's the candidate. A lot of Dems will never vote for a Socialist. They won't vote at all, which means that Trump will win.

by Anonymousreply 156February 18, 2020 6:02 PM

r156

More Dems don't like Bloomberg, who wouldn't even be in the running if not for him being a billionaire. That bothers many people. We already tried an New Yorker with Hillary. And Bloomberg is worse than Hillary. His record is also worse than Biden's.

by Anonymousreply 157February 18, 2020 6:08 PM

Hillary is Mother Teresa next to Bloomberg.

[bold]I am not voting for Bloomberg.[/bold]

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by Anonymousreply 158February 18, 2020 6:14 PM

[quote] Bernie's base is the most energized, PLUS if we're really in agreement on "blue no matter who", everyone will get behind him.

There’s the problem. You’re mistaking your enthusiasm for everyone else’s. And yes, there is a committed part of the Democratic electorate — myself included — who is definitely going to “vote blue no matter who.” However, the Bernie supporters and the “no matter who” voters are simply not enough to win the Electoral College. Bernie has about a third of the Democrats, He trails off everywhere else.

Just to be clear — once again — I’m not being paid by Bloomberg.

by Anonymousreply 159February 18, 2020 6:38 PM

Bloomberg admitted Bernie can win, rather enthusiastically, I might add. Why is he running again?

Hint: Bloomberg was a Republican in 2018.

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by Anonymousreply 160February 18, 2020 6:52 PM

[quote] Hint: Bloomberg was a Republican in 2018.

Which must have been why he poured tens of millions of dollars into flipping the House to the Democrats in 2018. Yeah. Makes perfect sense. 🙄

He was an Independent, and then registered once again as a Democrat.

by Anonymousreply 161February 18, 2020 6:59 PM

R161 And he was a registered Republican prior to Trump and for two years into Trump's presidency. You're fooling no one.

by Anonymousreply 162February 18, 2020 7:02 PM

Bloomberg cannot win. His views are wildly out of step with the party. He will lose too many Dem votes. He has said he thinks class sizes should be doubled for crying out loud? You really think that will bring people to the polls?

by Anonymousreply 163February 18, 2020 7:15 PM

[quote] And he was a registered Republican prior to Trump and for two years into Trump's presidency. You're fooling no one.

And, you are 100 percent wrong. Jeez. This has been discussed a lot over the past month and an easily verifiable fact.

[quote] Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced that he is formally changing his voter registration to Democrat, a possible step toward running for president in 2020. [bold] Bloomberg, 76, has been a political independent since abandoning his Republican Party registration in 2007. [/bold] He has said he is considering running for president as a Democrat — making this one of his most overt moves to date toward a possible White House campaign.

Let’s repeat that for you, since you seem to have a hard time understanding the facts:

[quote] Bloomberg, 76, has been a political independent since abandoning his Republican Party registration in 2007.

He hasn’t been a Repub since 2007.

You’re fooling no one.

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by Anonymousreply 164February 18, 2020 7:32 PM

Do you really hate Bernie so much you are willing to lose to Trump just to spite him? Because that makes you no worse than the worst of the Bernie Bros.

Trump is awful, I think they can be pushed to get on board for Biden, Amy,any other moderate Dems to beat Trump.

But they will not do it for Bloomberg

by Anonymousreply 165February 18, 2020 7:33 PM

R165 Yes. See his behavior (and the “bros”) relative to HRC in 2016. #NeverBernie

by Anonymousreply 166February 18, 2020 8:03 PM

R161, Bloomberg supported Republicans as recently as 2016. He poured millions into Pat Toomey’s re-election campaign in 2016. We could’ve won back the Senate but for Bloomberg supporting Toomey.

His republican “past” cannot be ignored. I see so many people here point out that “Bernie isn’t even a Democrat!” Where are those same people when it comes to Republican Bloomberg?

by Anonymousreply 167February 18, 2020 8:18 PM

R166, if you’d really rather see Trump win over Bernie, you’re no better than a Jill Stein voter. Hypocrite much?

by Anonymousreply 168February 18, 2020 8:20 PM

There are so many hateful Bloomberg posts on this thread. You all claim you dislike him for various and sundry reasons. But I know the real reason is because his name is: Michael BloomBURG. Oy!

by Anonymousreply 169February 18, 2020 8:30 PM

R169. Funny how the people you claim dislike Bloomberg for being Jewish have no problem backing his Jewish opponent.

by Anonymousreply 170February 18, 2020 10:25 PM

When you join Bloomberg’s team you get a MacBook Air, an iPhone 11, and three catered meals a day. He is outright paying for positive internet chatter. It is so blatant- Bloomberg was barely mentioned on DL a week ago and now he’s being praised on ten different threads. If he buys this nomination, America is over.

by Anonymousreply 171February 18, 2020 10:32 PM

I cannot help r166. He has clearly let his emotions get the better of him and lost capacity for rational thought. He really thinks the an anti-gay, racist, corrupt administration is better than someone who's policies he doesn't like winning.

But to the rest of you please stop before this goes to far. A few Bernie Bros decided to vote for Jill Stein and we are ALL suffering for it. Don't be one of those people!

Bloomberg will lose. His nomination will fracture the Dem party worse than we've ever seen. Maybe irreparably! It's just not worth it. There are worse things than Bernie. MUCH worse

by Anonymousreply 172February 18, 2020 10:46 PM

R172

by Anonymousreply 173February 18, 2020 11:00 PM

R172 Curious if you had this same conversation with the upwards of 10 percent of Sanders supporters who chose to torpedo Hillary? You are emphatic when it’s Bernie’s neck on the line. Please, tell us how you worked to mollify the most extreme of the Bernie “bros” in 2016? And, that’s in quotes because they aren't the “brahs” most of us are familiar with and love. They’re largely underperforming incels with not much else going on and a LOT of time on their hands.

by Anonymousreply 174February 18, 2020 11:15 PM

R174 I ABSOLUTELY did. I not only supported Hillary in the primary, I volunteered for her campaign. I spent 12 weekends straight knocking doors in New Hampshire.

I don't like Bernie but at worst he's self righteous and sometimes has no idea what he's talking about. Trump is evil. Pure, malevolent evil. And he is empowering some of the worst people in the world!

I am not sure America will be recognizable if he has a second term and Bloomberg will ensure Dems are too divided to defeat him. There is zero chance you get progressives to vote for a moderate to conservative billionaire. And honestly with some of his statements on education and schooling I don't even think he will be as popular with suburban swing voters as some of you do. Nominating him is a terrible idea!

If you want a moderate, to Amy or even Pete. But Bloomberg is a mistake

by Anonymousreply 175February 18, 2020 11:48 PM

R175 Respect, brother. I made assumptions I shouldn’t have and apologize. Definitely a lot to think about and one of the most important political decisions any of us has or will make. I appreciate your perspective.

by Anonymousreply 176February 18, 2020 11:55 PM

No worries at all R176

by Anonymousreply 177February 19, 2020 12:07 AM

Doomberg.

by Anonymousreply 178February 19, 2020 5:15 AM

R174 ." hey’re largely underperforming incels with not much else going on and a LOT of time on their hands."

Look at the faces in his crowds.

If you are so blind how can you copy and paste your canned talking points?

You Bloomie shills are just as transparent as the Hillbots were except you are a paid whore. The Hillbots worked for free.

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by Anonymousreply 179February 19, 2020 12:35 PM

Turn off the noise. First, if Biden had run stronger Bloomberg would not be running. He got in late. When you get in late the only way to compensate is to advertise. Most candidates don't have that ability. (Deval Patrick) Bloomberg does. He didn't have time to hold fundraisers so he self funded because he can. But at the same time, please remember, he has spent a fortune on the Democrats. Down ballot races in 2018 were greatly assisted by Bloomberg. He has spent $$$$$ on Gun Safety measures. He has spent his fortune on environmental issues. Was Stop and Frisk a bad thing? YES!!!!! But I think when you find a candidate with flaws... as long as they recognize those flaws and understand why it was a abd policy, you can hold their feet to the fire and make them work hard to do better. I will vote for Bloomberg if he is the nominee. I'm not going to buy into the obvious heavy-handed efforts to demonize hiom. I prefer Warren to anyone. And I like Pete. But if it's Bloomberg so be it..

by Anonymousreply 180February 19, 2020 12:38 PM

[quote]When you join Bloomberg’s team you get a MacBook Air, an iPhone 11, and three catered meals a day.

SIGN ME THE FUCK UP!

by Anonymousreply 181February 19, 2020 12:40 PM

The Republicans are laughing their asses off at us.

That is all.

by Anonymousreply 182February 19, 2020 1:00 PM

[quote] He has spent $$$$$ on Gun Safety measures.

Even if he spent his entire fortune on gun safety measures, it wouldn't be worth a damn as long as Mitch McConnell is majority leader. Something Bloomberg has greatly helped.

At the time of this endorsement. Scott Brown had a 100% rating from the NRA. The GOP has not even allowed one single vote on gun violence prevention measures since being in the majority

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by Anonymousreply 183February 19, 2020 1:17 PM
by Anonymousreply 184February 19, 2020 2:08 PM

R179 Don’t mind it. It’s been told to put the lotion in a basket one too many times by its parents.

by Anonymousreply 185February 19, 2020 2:09 PM

Well, here we are debating the "sins" and the inconsistencies, and the hypocrisy of various candidates, while Donald Trump, the worst piece of human excrement in existence sits in the fucking White House. Measure anyone's "sins" against Trump. We need to stop buying into the bullshit. We need to beat Trump. We need to be aware of the shortcomings of our candidates, but for shit! Attacking BLoomberg with the goal of destroying his candidacy is something Trump endorses whole heartedly. Wow. Trump is SO STRONG, there's the threat of violence if he loses, and his base OMG, his base! And the economy is SO GOOD that he will be hard to beat!!! OMG! And the voting machines. Who knows how accurate. It might take three or four hoursOMG! Let's just stay home. Why bother, right? OMG. That rotten shitstain will get re-elected, because its the DEMOCRATS' fault! They couldn't find a good candidate. Wow. Woe is me!

by Anonymousreply 186February 19, 2020 2:14 PM

His sudden surge has been so obviously manufactured because they're getting desperate to beat Bernie. Stubborn people don't want to get behind the strongest candidate in the race: Bernie.

This Bloomberg surge has a strong possibility of being short lived as his recent fickle supporters go to whatever candidate is next promoted against Bernie when Bloomberg inevitably underperforms and crashes. People just don't want to admit that Bernie is the strongest candidate. These other candidates are flopping big time.

by Anonymousreply 187February 19, 2020 2:25 PM

[quote]Even if he spent his entire fortune on gun safety measures, it wouldn't be worth a damn as long as Mitch McConnell is majority leader.

It is incomprehensible that a fucking hick from a state that's #3 in MOOCHING (literally give NOTHING back to the country but their ignorance and stupidity with their hand out to TAKE because they're fucking worthless in every way) with a population a little more than half the size of NYC alone, has so much power. It is beyond disgusting.

And the nerve of the other fucking senator being a "libertarian." Bitch, you're a TAKER! STFU about libertarian crap when you literally represent a worthless state that would shrivel up and die without SOCIALISM.

by Anonymousreply 188February 19, 2020 2:36 PM

R288 Your post makes me seethe. Thanks for speaking truth.

by Anonymousreply 189February 19, 2020 2:55 PM

I would vote for a potted house plant to be president before I would vote for Donald J. Trump.

by Anonymousreply 190February 19, 2020 6:49 PM

The WSJ reported today that the Bloomberg shills on DL and other social media sites are being paid $2500 a month to blanket the internet with positive comments about him. Fortunately, most of the positive comments from shills have been obvious enough to have other DLers call them out on it.

by Anonymousreply 191February 19, 2020 7:09 PM

R191, you're embarrassing yourself. Truly.

by Anonymousreply 192February 19, 2020 7:11 PM

r192

Nope, you are paid Bloomberg shill.

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by Anonymousreply 193February 19, 2020 7:16 PM

R193, I don't doubt some are paid to be on sites that tons actual frequent...DL does not fall under that category. I mean I love this site, but I also understand its limitations and frankly, pretty much every thread about him is anti-Bloomberg, so stop acting like anyone is paid to post positive things about him on here.

by Anonymousreply 194February 19, 2020 7:28 PM

actually*

by Anonymousreply 195February 19, 2020 7:31 PM

The Bloomberg shills are not only creating replies that look more like campaign ads rather than forum posts, they are also creating replies with the negative talking points about the other candidates.

by Anonymousreply 196February 19, 2020 7:31 PM

[quote]Michael Bloomberg’s presidential campaign is hiring hundreds of workers in California to post regularly on their personal social-media accounts in support of the candidate and send text messages to their friends about him.

Did you even read your own link? FROM THEIR PERSONAL ACCOUNTS AND TEXTING FRIENDS. So how the fuck do you mention DL shills when your own damned link makes a point of stating where they're doing this?

So they're pushing him on Twitter/FB/IG. Places like that.

by Anonymousreply 197February 19, 2020 7:36 PM

Someone should bring this up at the debate. This will backfire on him

by Anonymousreply 198February 19, 2020 7:37 PM

Bloomberg campaign rally.

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by Anonymousreply 199February 19, 2020 7:42 PM

r197

This is social media, and a large chunk of DataLoungers are Californian. I don't think it's a coincidence that all of a sudden he's getting hyped to the max here.

by Anonymousreply 200February 19, 2020 7:48 PM

R200, where is he getting hyped? Most of the threads are how he's evil/bad/negative.

Look, a lot of us don't like those who say they'll stay home if he's the candidate. The goal needs to be to get Trump OUT. Whether it's Bloomberg, Bernie, Pete, it doesn't matter. Getting Trump OUT should be your primary focus. I think it's weird when people devote more time to hating a potential Trump rival than Trump himself. I've said I've had my issues with Bloomberg. However, if he's the candidate, I'll vote for him - just like I would if it were Bernie, Pete, etc, but you people who throw a fit and say you're staying home, are the bigger problem. Why would you do that and allow Trump to win again? Why would it be so easy for you to think nothing of giving him another term? Frankly, you're the ones who look really suspicious when you don't care if Trump wins again if Bloomberg or anyone NOT Bernie gets the nomination. I was called some nonsense about "#NeverBernie" which is bullshit because I absolutely would vote for him. It's seems it's projecting from those people who are #NEVERANYONEBUTBERNIE

by Anonymousreply 201February 19, 2020 7:57 PM

Agree strongly. I argued against Bloomberg above because I worry if the party can unite around him but as I said, Trump is evil. Not just offensive, truly evil. He has done nothing but cause suffering for the vulnerable since he's been in office. The vote between him and anyone the Dems nominate is a clear choice.

by Anonymousreply 202February 19, 2020 8:11 PM

Frankly, I am beginning to think that Bernie is paying his peeps to start all this shit here on DL. Or that they're that delusional that they do it for free. All I know is that they have too much spare time on their hands.

by Anonymousreply 203February 19, 2020 8:12 PM

[quote] Or that they're that delusional that they do it for free.

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner.

by Anonymousreply 204February 19, 2020 9:35 PM

Girls, girls, let’s stick to the plot:

[bold]Michael Bloomberg is a racist, oligarchical, sexual predator with authoritarian leanings and a history of switching parties on a whim. He has also not bothered to campaign, just spend money. And he’s friends with Dump.[/bold]

Any real supporter of Bernie, Warren, Biden, Klobuchar or Pete should be insulted by this.

by Anonymousreply 205February 19, 2020 11:43 PM

Thank you, r205. That’s the response of a normal unpaid person.

by Anonymousreply 206February 20, 2020 12:21 AM

I do want to point out that what Bernie Bros SAID Hillary was, Bloomberg actually is. But because you respond with this exact level of intensity at everyone who challenges Bernie, no one takes any of you seriously.

by Anonymousreply 207February 20, 2020 12:24 AM

Classic “Never Bernie” retard:

Let’s accuse Bernie of everything that’s true about our preferred candidate.

by Anonymousreply 208February 20, 2020 12:40 AM

I'm not taking anyone seriously who is supporting Bloomberg after that awful debate performance. He got bodied by Biden even, which I was not expecting.

by Anonymousreply 209February 20, 2020 3:46 AM

R209 Agreed.

by Anonymousreply 210February 20, 2020 4:03 AM
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