Career Builder's CEO: Young people are 'ghosting' employers

No sense of loyalty to anyone but themselves.

Baby Boomers were supposed to be the "me" generation, but they've got nothing on these twats.

Most selfish generation EVER.

And we're supposed to trust them with the future of this country?

Yeah, I don't think so.

r1 is an HR rep so used to the deck stacked in her favor, she didn't notice times have changed.

We used to have several new employees who would go through training and then quit just for a quick easy check.

[quote]No sense of loyalty to anyone but themselves.

Does this refer to the Millennials and GenZers or to the businesses that hire them and then lay them off at the drop of a hat?

Millennials and genZ's should all be exterminated, starting with the hideous retard swedish baby lez who don't want to take a plane. Re-open the concentration camps already.

r6 - up your meds pronto.

[quote] We used to have several new employees who would go through training and then quit just for a quick easy check.

R1 forgot to mention that they're SHADY AS HELL.

R6 First they came for the hideous retard swedish baby lez and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a hideous retard swedish baby lez.

Just being Swedish, on its own, takes the baby lez out of this discussion.

What’s R6’s excuse?

Well, it's not like employers have a long list of doing right by employees in the US.

[quote] No sense of loyalty to anyone but themselves.

To be fair R1, 99% of large companies will lay off anyone without shedding a tear.

That said, I've never, and would never, ghost an employer. I'd at least write a letter, and leave it on a desk if I didn't want to deal with the drama.

There is a huge difference between a 39 year old and a 24 year old. As an older 'millennial' I am struggling to find work because I am already too old. So many of my friends are desperate for work, and are loyal and knowledgable employees. We are completely looked over for these 'social media expert' younglings.

American capitalism has treated labor like an enemy, like dog food, like meat to be ground up and used and discarded and you dumb motherfuckers are complaining about LOYALTY???? Oh my sides!!!

Loyalty cuts both ways. Employers no longer provide pensions or good benefits. They no long know what they want from their employees. Training is crap, managers don't know how to manage. If the younger generation has no sense of loyalty -- its because they learned if from their employers. This is one of the few areas in which I feel that young people will force employers to wake up and give a shit about their people -- supposedly their greatest asset.

Good. The younger generations will likely be around 75% of the workforce by 2024, and there need to be significant changes in the employment landscape to accommodate changing times. For instance, companies need to offer the option for employees to work remotely, anywhere, as opposed to being forced to relocate to a crowded, expensive city in order to have a good job. If the position can be sufficiently taken care of remotely, there's no need for corralling people in expensive office space. I also concur with those remarking that capitalism (which is now late-capitalism) has treated labor and their employees with complete disregard for years (at-will employment, anyone?). Greed motivated policies have pushed the corporate world toward this confrontational point and I have zero sympathy for any of these companies or their executives.

Well, it has worked well for one group - the upper-level executives. THEIR pay has increased multiple times over the past 25-30 years.

Everyone else? Not so much or even less than before when you consider the increase in living costs.

[quote] If the younger generation has no sense of loyalty -- its because they learned if from their employers

No, they learned it from social media and reality television.

Everything is a game to them.

And of course, it's ALL ABOUT MEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

We've had several new hires that leveraged our offer of employment to get a more desirable position and never even show up or bother to say they're not taking the position, and are no shows, on the 1st day of New Hire. Also many don't make it past the first 90 days. They have a laundry list of demands but don't always bring what they say they will to the table. It's because of this we are using agency services to test out manager/director level positions instead of straight hires.

These are masters/licensed level folks. 38-50.

R19 - I think that's something different. People have always parlayed other offers to get better positions and pay within their own company.

But it usually takes a couple of weeks for that to go through - so you've accepted the offer, but then you have to wait to make sure your company actually moves forward with what the promised to keep you.

Not the most professional - but different than just leaving a job or never showing up.

[Quote]And it turns out Gen Zers are not the only ones giving their employers an Irish Goodbye.

An IRISH goodbye? Damn, the Irish can't catch a break regarding their reputation!

I caught that as well R21. I'm Irish (grandparents from Ireland) and I heard a cousin use this phrase the other day. I didn't know what it meant until now.

Millennials are more likely to place culture over salary. This. They will wake up one morning thinking after all those years in working life and very little savings. Foolish.

[quote] ... companies need to offer the option for employees to work remotely, anywhere, as opposed to being forced to relocate to a crowded, expensive city in order to have a good job. If the position can be sufficiently taken care of remotely, there's no need ...

As remotely as India?

r22, so you're not Irish. You're American. Stop it.

Do potential employers still call your former bosses?

R24 - har har. Think a little more nuanced, darling.

I've in my early 30s. Never ghosted an employer (though I did decline a phasing out period and blocked them after I got my last check) but let's not pretend this isn't a two way street. You can have 3 interviews for a job and then never hear a word from a company again. I'm not gonna cry tears for them when they can't even copy paste "We've gone in another direction" into an email.

My theory is that millennial’s are incredibly conflict averse. They’re not used to interacting in the same way that those of us who grew up using the telephone did. We would have to answer direct questions and deal with uncomfortable feelings that came up, even if it was turning somebody down who was asking you to make plans. Today, with texting, people can curate their responses and take their time in order to decide on any question that is asked of them. I’ve even heard of young people refusing to pick up the phone because they feel like that’s win friends or family members try to force answers out of them. Quitting is uncomfortable at times and ghosting is just how they roll.

My heart is breaking for these poor employers :( :( :(

R29, I agree.

An older woman I used to work with landed at a new company. Asked her how it was. She said it was great, because it was all older people on her department. While people were cordial, they didn’t socialize, everyone did their work and went home on time, and there was no drama. She said everyone was experienced enough to know exactly how to behave, and it was heavenly.

In other words, R29, they're WEAK.

We'd better not need to storm any beaches in the coming decades. Our raw material is severely lacking.

R32 Oh yeah like the great wars won by the American boomers and Xs

I have no problem with young people ghosting corporate employers.

So employers can fire you without cause and walk you out of the office immediately...but we blame Millennials for doing the same to employers they don’t like.

That’s how big business has made us think like slaves

Companies truly have no sense of loyalty to employees so why must they demand complete loyalty from employees?

I love it! Finally, corporations accustomed to treatment employees like shit, are getting a taste of their own medicine.

Go Millennials and Zers!

No sympathy.

Good--the days of staying with a company for a long time out of devotion are long gone. Why should people stay at the same company if there are tons of opportunities elsewhere?

Irish Goodbye? I always heard that as French Leave.

Yeah, Gen Xer here and count me as another one who is not crying for corporations. Corporations treat their rank and file employees like shit and unceremoniously dump them. Only executives typically get treated well.

My brother was the best employee at his workplace but they "downsized" him when he was 52? Why? He was grandfathered in to their defined benefit pension plan (i.e., NOT a 401(k) which is defined contribution and mostly on the employee). The employer liability for contributions was going to start to get higher in the defined benefit plan, so they canned him. They did it to others grandfathered in to those plans, too, but the corporation was savvy enough to also downsize a decent ratio (younger to older, women to men, white to minorities, etc.) making it harder to bring a discrimination claim, plus to get severance you had to sign a waiver of your right to sue. At-will employment at its finest. Meanwhile, the CEO at his company got a record bonus the year my brother was downsized.

Although I've never done it, I'd have no qualms ghosting a corporate employer. They have no loyalty to you.

This idea that the company is getting a taste of their own medicine seems to forget that these millenials aren't just ghosting a company, but the very human people they work with.

I had two managers that I hired - a process which my boss and I spent time on, posting the position, going through phone interviews, then doing the round of final selections - who ended up ghosting us. We selected these people, hired them, set them up for their training - a task which I personally spent two weeks doing the actual training - arranged their hotel accommodations when they had to come into the office, and then assisted them with the opening of a location. I took them out to dinner, got to know them better, gave them whatever assistance I could, went through 1:1s with them every week. One woman had a death in the family and was out for a few days - we sent her flowers. Then her dog was sick and she had to take him to the hospital and put him down, and we talked at length about how devastated she felt. Then a few weeks later, she did not show up for work.

I called her. I emailed her. I talked to her crew to find out if there were any indications that she was sick or something. Several days went by with no word from her. I asked HR to find me her emergency contact so I could call to see if she'd been in an accident or something. We tried her husband's phone number and got his voicemail. He did not call us back. I was legit concerned that something terrible had happened to her or her family. Then a month later, my boss did a search for her on SM and found an IG post from her on a beach vacation with her husband, where they were all beaming smiles for their selfie. I felt a little used. That was a lot of my time that I won't get back, and it wouldn't have taken much for her to simply email me with a note that she was a bit over-stressed due to events in her life and was resigning effective immediately. Literally three minutes it would have taken for her to whip that out. Its called being an adult.

You should always check-up on people who disappear. You know what things can happen to people.

And I wouldn't even trust social media. Someone could steal their phone or computer and create fake posts.