New Hampshire primary thread!

I think the media is sensationalizing these primaries too much and making Democratic voters panic but I can't help but keep watching

how many people vote?

results:

a repub voted for Bloomberg it was a write-in

Democrats: 1 vote for Buttigieg 1 vote for Sanders 2 write-in votes for Bloomberg

Bloomberg wins Dixville Notch!

kudos to the repub for not voting Trump

Millsfield results!

Biden has 1 vote Buttigieg has 1 vote Sanders has 1 vote Klobuchar has 2 votes!

Amy wins Millsfield

Millsfield repubs:

16 for Trump 1 for Weld

Hart's Location:

Trump 15 Weld 4

Klobuchar 6 Sanders 2 Steyer 1 Warren 4 Yang 3 Biden 1 Gabbard 1

totals so far:

Klobuchar 8

Sanders 4

Warren 4

Yang 3

Buttigieg 2

Biden 2

Gabbard 1

Bloomberg 2 in D 1 in R

All this for a country of 330,000,000.

Fucking retarded.

so far 24 votes cast

This is so stupid that the news is obsessed with live coverage of a town of 20 people.

Doesn’t bode well for Biden.

Because people who live in the smallest of small towns know what's best for a country of 327 million.

Wall St. Pete

so trump gets 31 in basically uncontested primary, and all the dems get 27 combined.......sigh

R16 maybe it's just the area. I'm hoping for better turnout than last week in Iowa

latest tracking polling shows the Bernie Sanders wins.

I actually know someone from Dixville Notch. A really hot French-Canadian. He was a little kinky.

Amy is SURGING!!!!

MSNBC was interviewing people who had already voted, the only Bernie voter was a huge younger guy with longer than shoulder length hair and a black eye. Talk about fitting the stereotype.

I am shocked at the number of older white men who have said they were voting or have voted for Mayor Pete.

Is Dixville Notch some sort of hidden gay male Mecca? Five voters and four of them were men.

They work at a hotel up in northern New Hampshire.

Are the numbers for Biden just bad in Iowa and New Hampshire or did they drop nationwide? I'm not a Biden fan, but if this Republican smear campaign on him and his son actually worked, I feel very sorry for him. He was leading all the polls before this started and he now only 4th or 5th place.

yeah while Biden was not my #1 I do think the Trump/Giuliani/Fox "News"/Nunes etc smear campaign has worked against him. Even though the only factual thing is Hunter got the job in Ukraine out of nepotism, all the other stuff has been pushed ENDLESSLY for months now. Fox is still going with it. No way would Biden have fallen so fast without this.

I just hate how repubs and their dirty work of lies keep setting the narrative in this country. It always seems like Democrats are on the back foot

Bump

r24 I really don't think it had anything to do with his son or impeachment, Biden is just a bad campaigner and i don't really think he knows why he's running other than he's always wanted to be president.

He thought he was owed the nomination. Hillary fell into this trap. Biden also thought being a centrist would help him since everyone but Pete at the time was a fringe candidate. Biden waited too long to get into the race and had no money.

It's interesting that in Harts Location, two of the town leaders are a liberal, openly gay couple, and yet there was not one vote for Mayor Pete. Elizabeth Warren apparently got the vote.

R27 At his age, it's someone else telling him he wants to be or should be president. I think it was the same with Trump, except the egomaniac has taken it to heart.

I know people were buzzing about the general poll that came out yesterday comparing the top Democratic candidates against Trump but that's useless. They should do state by state comparisons for each candidate against Trump.

Amy is killing it!

Soon we will all be eating with combs.

^Yeah, I think we've all learnt that lesson. The popular vote means shit.

r31 Polls for November mean shit right now.

Maybe Amy could give one of her combs to Colonel Sanders?

I really was rooting for Biden but he himself is to blame for this implosion. He has a difficult time presenting thoughts, doesn't debate well and just isn't coherent enough to take on Trump. He's just too old for this game. Too bad because I like the man.

R36, I'm firmly in the "Whoever can beat Trump" camp. I thought that was going to be Biden, but he does seem to be fading.

Chasten: "Hag!"

Amy: "Fag!"

what was the audio that came out about Bloomberg today?

Bump

[quote]what was the audio that came out about Bloomberg today?

He was praising “stop and frisk”, and saying that they put a lot of cops in black neighborhoods because that’s where all the crime is.

1% reporting (3 of 301 precincts reporting)

Klobuchar (29.6%)

Sanders (14.8%)

Warren (14.8%)

Yang (11.1%)

Buttigieg (7.4%)

r42 Is this midnight primary results ?

Biden? PollTroll

Yes, R43, that's Dixville Notch, Hart’s Location and Millsfield.

Main results will come in at 7 PM ET.

Klobuchar is running away with it so far.

^Nah, it was just 20 voters.

[quote]Biden? PollTroll

Biden is tied with Pete for 5th with those 19 voters:

Biden (7.4%)

Are we going to get a result tonight?

The majority of polls will be closing in less than an hour, so hopefully, yes.

Biden just doesn't have the right stuff. Bloomburg should fuck right off.

Just caught a clip of Amy K on MSNBC wearing a burnt orange coat with fuscia gloves and a pink shirt. Dress for the job you want = substitute 4th grade teacher?

I still would would like Mr. Eric Swalwell in my "Dicksville" Notch!

The exit poll demographics are skewing old and last minute deciders. Good news for Pete and Amy.

I hope someone, ANYONE, beats Sanders.

I bet a lot of them are Trumpers. Trump keeps making speeches telling Republicans to vote for the weakest candidate. If you’re registered independent, which a lot of Republicans are, you can do that.

MSNBC said large, last-minute Amy surge, based on debate.

Utter bullshit that they can get away with that, R56, but so is almost everything Anusmouth does.

We'll be left with that unelectable, hunchbacked troll Bernie and nothing of America will be left by 2024.

CNN Exit poll details:

6 in 10 New Hampshire Democrats want a nominee who can beat President Trump

8 in 10 who voted today say they plan to vote for the Democratic nominee in November regardless of who it is

6 in 10 say that impeachment hasn't made any difference in Trump's reelection chances

6 in 10 who turned out to vote in today's primary say they only made up their minds since the beginning of February, including nearly half who say they decided on their candidate just in the last few days.

[quote]The exit poll demographics are skewing old and last minute deciders.

Last minute deciders largely skew for Amy.

[quote]MSNBC said large, last-minute Amy surge, based on debate.

Yeah, you can see that even in the small number of votes from Dixville Notch.

WTF with the countdowns on CNN? The last countdown just ended and we did not get any new numbers.

R62, it means that the majority of polls are now closed in Hew Hampshire but it will take a few minutes for new results to trickle in.

DRAMA!!!

The secretary of state has he expects 128,000 to vote in the Republican primary, compared with 292,000 on the Democratic side.

More Dems than Reps = The Enthusiasm Factor!

CNN & MSNBC lol is as if they are pushing Sanders & Klobuchar. Dooming Biden, Dissing Pete after his Iowa win, and dismissive of Warren.

John King (CNN) and Chuck Todd (MSNBC) are really annoying.

Reid Epstein:

State officials are certain they won’t have problems reporting results. The front-page Concord Monitor headline: “Trusted voting system delivers.”

looks, not lol

Pete's in third!

Klobuchar might come in second!

She's there right now!

Where are you seeing results? NYT hasn't updated...

Damn, looks like Biden is having a really bad day in NH. He's going down.

The Times is shitting the bed on results

Sanders 27.3

Klobuchar 24.1

Buttigieg 20.2

Warren 11.1

Biden 7.6

I want the MSNBC poll troll's ankles on my shoulders

Biden had already given up on New Hampshire.

New Hampshire Woman Tells MSNBC Host She Voted for Sanders Because MSNBC is So Anti-Bernie

“I think it is completely cynical to say that he’s lost 50% of his vote from the last time when there were two candidates, now there are multiple wonderful candidates who would be great presidents, and people that we I think that we can unify and get behind,” the woman said, then added “But the kind of the ‘Stop Bernie’ cynicism that I heard from a number of people, I watch MSNBC constantly, so I heard that from a number of commentators, and so it made me angry enough I said ‘Okay, Bernie’s got my vote.'”

Stock a fork in Warren and in Biden. And then throw a stapler at them. They’re both finished.

r79 NH has an opiate epidemic

Buttigieg now in 2nd. Will be a close race between him & Klobuchar.

CNN Correspondent: I Spoke to Over 100 NH Voters and Haven’t Heard from Anyone Who Supports Biden

“Most people supporting Bernie Sanders, a lot of people, number two, saying Pete Buttigieg they like. Amy Klobuchar, interestingly enough, a lot of people say they’ve come around to her since her performance in the debate last week. And then Elizabeth Warren rounding all that out.”

“Most surprising here is that of all the voters I’ve talked to — and we’re talking probably upwards of 100 right now, not a single one saying they support Joe Biden,” he added.

4% in

Sanders (27.3)

Buttigieg (22.5)

Klobuchar (21.3)

Warren (10.2)

Biden (8.4)

Why is Ari Melber sent out to the field interviewing hicks in high school auditoriums? They would never send Rachel or Brian Williams or even Nicolle Wallace out like that.

Jane Sanders is really fat. Looks like she added 50 lbs. since 2016.

So far (still early) Bernie has a comfortable lead, Mayo Pete and Klobuchar are tied for 2nd place and Warren is in a distant 4th with only half of Pete and Klobuchar‘s percentage (11% vs. 22-23%.) Looks great for Amy, so-so for Pete and bad for Liz.

Meanwhile on the Republican side . . .

Trump (88%)

Bill Weld (7.5%)

[quote]Jane Sanders is really fat. Looks like she added 50 lbs. since 2016.

That bitch needs to give her food away to starving trans women of color.

R85 It’s also lame as fuck, those stupid interviews.

Why didn't Pete rip into Amy at the last debate? Make her lose her temper. She can be rattled.

Way more results here!

[quote]Why didn't Pete rip into Amy at the last debate? Make her lose her temper.

He’s not experienced enough.

All this drama over 24 lousy delegates. Ridiculous. This system is a joke.

Sanders 29.33%

Buttigieg 21.66%

Klobuchar 18.57%

Warren 10.47%

CNN's poll tracker was updating, but has gone back in time and is stuck

At least NH is organized and can count.

Iowa has been a big mess.

Local NH journalist on MSNBC thinks there’s been voter suppression aimed at college students (Bernie voters.) Some new law passed making it more difficult for college students to vote.

decisiondeskhq is the best

I can't believe people are voting for Amy Klobuchar. There's just something about her that irks me big time. It could be her constant whining about Pete and his "male privilege", I don't know, but she bugs.

Joan Crawford's endorsement of Amy Klobuchar has pushed her far ahead of Warren and Biden.

I agree R100 - I want her to fall on her Frau face

How dare you R101. Miss Crawford would have been all in for Pete.

R100 She had a great debate and a lot of people are still looking for someone who inspires them. Biden, mayo Pete and Liz aren’t cutting it.

It is irresponsible for MSNBC to be showing the voting totals before polls have closed statewide. I didn't bother to check if CNN and FNC are doing the same.

Steve Kornacki is not my type, but it has suddenly occurred to me that I find him fuckable.

MSNBC: Early New Hampshire exit polls show 11% of NH voters are 17-29, down from 19% in 2016.

Biden yelled at a reporter before he fled to SC.

Biden is going to be the nominee. Places like Texas wont vote for Sanders. New York won’t go for Sanders either. South Carolina sure as hell won’t vote for Sanders.

Early, I liked Amy. The more I hear though, she strikes me as veiling visciousness.

R106 And yet Bernie is still winning.

WTG Biden. His campaign is imploding at record speed.

10% in

Sanders (27.7%)

Buttigieg (22.4%)

Klobuchar (20.8%)

Warren (9.5%)

Biden (8.8%)

I wonder if Amy has benefited from voters disappointed that Hilary is not in office and Liz isn't delivering.

How long before Pete declares VICTORY!?

R109 Her thinly veiled viciousness is a feature, not a bug.

Viciousness (sp)

[quote]so far 24 votes cast

Isn't that enough? Trump won again. Let's move on.

Nate Cohn:

A few early observations: Klobucharge is real. Warren and Biden, yikes. Sanders, like in Iowa, is doing notably worse in older rural areas than in 08.

Viciousity.

sanders didn't run in 08

TINA, BRING ME THE STAPLER!

R120, I think Nate Cohn meant to say '16.

Disappointed that NH is so infected by Bernie crazies, but at least Warren is toast after tonight. Biden will get new life in SC and Super Tuesday.

I will be so happy if Pete beats the Walking Ambrosia Salad! It would absolutely make my Tuesday no longer the worst night of the entire week!

Warren’s performance is an embarrassment.

Yikes. Liz and Biden imploding.

I think Amy may have benefitted more from Biden supporters who have not been impressed by his campaigning. I still think he has a decent chance, but not tonight...

The story to me is that not Bernie winning. It's that he's much lower than the gestalt of Klobuchar and Pete.

I'm interested in knowing if Trump's encouragement of Republicans voting in the Democratic side has any effect. Is there any way to tell that from the results? E.g., do they count the number of people registered in one party voting so that they can compare that against the number of votes for that party overall?

[quote]Biden will get new life in SC and Super Tuesday.

Nope. He’s out of money. His fundraising has dropped to zero.

Sanders (28.00%)

Buttigieg (22.71%)

Klobuchar (19.15%)

Warren (10.04%)

I'm a bit sad about Warren. I really like her. Warren and Biden are definitely losing momentum.

When is the next primary?

Deval - .36

Nevada caucus is the 22nd.

SC is the 29th.

Super Tuesday is March 3.

Youth turnout sucked

Elizabeth Warren is a way worse campaigner than Hillary Clinton. Seriously, what a mess.

Dems are dodging a bullet if she is indeed imploding tonight.

BREAKING: Yang suspending his candidacy.

Andrew Yang to suspend campaign

All polls now closed. 14% in

Sanders (28.4)

Buttigieg (22.2)

Klobuchar (20.5)

Warren (9.4)

Biden (8.5)

[quote] Youth turnout sucked

Does New Hampshire even have youth?

Aw :( I liked Yang.

Pete's in a great position.

Yang doesn’t see a path forward. I thought Asians were supposed to be smart? I could have told him that a year ago.

That Trump Ukrainian bullshit has contributed to Biden's decline. I don't think Democrats believed the Trump-Giuliani lies, but a lot of Democrats are tired of hearing the drumbeat about the false narrative.

R137, A man who refuses to wear a necktie cannot be trusted.

Yang drops out. Good.

CNN EXIT POLL: Who Can Beat Trump?

1. Buttigieg

2. Klobuchar

3. Sanders

4. Biden

5. Warren

R142, He often is.

538: "Meanwhile, our friends at ABC say Trump has won the GOP primary, stunning everyone I know. Currently, he’s at about 86 percent, which is on the high side for an incumbent president running in the New Hampshire primary. My former colleague Kyle Kondik at the University of Virginia Center for Politics wrote about this today. Trump might like that he’s currently got about the same percentage as Ronald Reagan did in the 1984 Republican primary."

Trump declared winner of GOP Primary with 84%.

Bill Weld got almost 10% which is not bad.

Thanks PollTroll! @R147

R140, I had no problem finding them.

As soon as Biden drops out, Amy will pick up his supporters and surge ahead of Buttigieg.

[quote] Pete's in a great position.

Six points behind Bernie with Amy crawling up his ass?

Sanders is doing so well because Trump encouraged Republicans to go out and vote for him.

R154 For a candidate that no-one ever heard of a year ago to be in second place. Yes, that is a great position.

Yang out.

New Hampshire Republican party young people voter suppression seems to be working, as younger Democratic turnout is way down.

This might swing New Hampshire to Trump in the general election as Trump just lost New Hampshire by about 3,000 votes in 2016.

[quote]Six points behind Bernie with Amy crawling up his ass?

The night's not over yet sweet cheeks. Let Bernie enjoy is little lead right now. He'll never be president. Hell, he won't even get anywhere near the nomination.

Good that Yang is out. Now Tulsi Gabbard needs to drop out of the race and the Democratic party, and Bennet needs to hang it up as well.

This is mayo Pete’s last big chance. He’ll crash and burn in SC.

Are they reporting on write ins for Bloomberg?

R157, Damn! I was counting on that extra $1,000 every month.

[quote] The night's not over yet sweet cheeks. Let Bernie enjoy is little lead right now. He'll never be president. Hell, he won't even get anywhere near the nomination.

I hope he doesn't, but Pete's not going to, either.

[quote]This is mayo Pete’s last big chance. He’ll crash and burn in SC.

You said that in Iowa.

You also said that in NH.

Doesn't Plouffe ping for anyone else?

R154 LOL Pete's solidly in this race.

[quote] New Hampshire Republican party young people voter suppression seems to be working, as younger Democratic turnout is way down.

[quote] This might swing New Hampshire to Trump in the general election as Trump just lost New Hampshire by about 3,000 votes in 2016.

Good thing there is a lot of time for the Democratic Party to rectify this possible issue.

Wow, Liz Warren must be disappointed. It seems she indeed peaked too soon.

R162, "Other" is 1.39%

They'll just send in hundreds of busses from MA like they did last time.

[quote] I was counting on that extra $1,000 every month.

Never would have passed congress, unless maybe you declare yourself a corporation then they might have given it to you.

Hundreds of bussys?

Can everyone feel the Tulsamentum!

48 other states aren't voting for a Socialist.

I never noticed Amy until the last debate and find myself liking her.

As Yang has dropped out Tulsi is the remaining person of color in the race. Will that help her?

R165 Nobody said that about Iowa or NH, least of all me. Keep dreaming though.

I stood for three hours in those goddamn selfie lines every day for THIS?!?

R166, I tried, he wasn't interested.

With Yang out that's the last of the non Caucasian candidates in the race.

One thing we already know about the next president now, whoever it is, they will be white.

No one is taking about Biden’s absolute collapse

20% in

Sanders (27.7)

Buttigieg (22.6)

Klobuchar (20.8)

Warren (9.5)

Biden (8.6)

R169, She has no sex appeal.

Warren should think about dropping out. Biden needs to see what happen in S.C., etc.

Steyer and Gabbard @ 3% each need to go. Yang decided not to be foolish by staying in.

Bennet hardly registers. He's a good Senator, but has got no traction. Gracefully leave the race. He'd make an excellent Cabinet official.

R182 That was discussed at length earlier today when he jetted off to SC.

[quote]Now Tulsi Gabbard needs to drop out of the race

She's still in the race? Seriously?

Biden desperately trying to hang on with the black vote. Hillary did the same thing in 2016 and look what happened to her.

To be fair Bill Clinton lost Iowa and New Hampshire and became a two-term president.

I hate Bernie and his bros. And I fear what will happen if he goes up against Trump next November.

We will LOSE.

True, R189.

Bill Clinton is the only person in the last 40 years to lose both IA & NH and become President.

SC is the 29th and Biden had to jet off on the day of the primary? Even if he was losing big time, he acted like a total coward.

Shrill women don’t win elections.

[quote]Warren should think about dropping out. Biden needs to see what happen in S.C., etc.

They both won't think about dropping out until after South Carolina.

[quote]This is mayo Pete’s last big chance. He’ll crash and burn in SC.

I don't think he'll take first. I also don't think he'll end up lower than third. I think people will be pleasantly surprised by how well he does.

I could see it being between him and Sanders again with Sanders taking it since Sanders does have more black support than anyone except for Biden.

[quote]Biden desperately trying to hang on with the black vote. Hillary did the same thing in 2016 and look what happened to her.

Yes, the white women voted en masse for Trump and the black vote that she had was rendered inert.

Pete just widened his lead over Amy. Will be interesting to see if that holds.

22% in

Sanders (27.7)

Buttigieg (23.0)

Klobuchar (20.5)

Warren (9.5)

Biden (8.7)

R191, But, how badly did he lose both?

Biden and Warren will get NO delegates.

Well thanks, New Hampshire, this was helpful!!

I think Warren will be out tomorrow. They've already said she and Biden won't pick up delegates.

CNN EXIT POLL: MODERATES

Klobuchar - 29

Buttigieg - 25

Sanders - 16

Biden - 12

No, I think Warren will stay in until Super Tuesday.

A Massachusetts woman is not gonna get swing states voters. A Midwest woman can win there

South Carolina will be a really strange situation.

Columbia, SC, black Mayor, Steve Benjamin, has endorsed Bloomberg.

CNN EXIT POLL: LIBERALS

Sanders - 48

Warren - 18

Buttigieg - 14

Klobuchar - 9

Biden - 5

This is sad about Joe and Liz. They’re both good people and they’re getting slammed.

[quote]No, I think Warren will stay in until Super Tuesday.

I think she's running out of money.

interesting to see if liz breaks 10%. she's barely there with a third of the vote

[quote]younger Democratic turnout is way down.

Younger voters never show up. The fact that Sanders’ supporters are mostly young people...doesn’t bode well if he becomes the nominee.

and now she's just at 10% even

Buttigieg leading in delegates so far, Sanders 2nd.

Liz Warren's fall is the most unbeliavable fall from grace ever. Wow. That fast.

Damn, loved Liz from the start of this thing. Ah vell. not a good night, like Iowa.

Now Bennet’s out.

Bennett out!

Tulsa next PLEASE!!!

Bennet dropping out of the race too.

Hopefully she has a plan to get out. And take Biden with you.

Liz did this to herself. She ran a horrible campaign. The people who are on her team should never be allowed to work in politics again.

Pete's climbing ..... almost 23

Now who's going to make sure the Secretary of Education is vetted by a school-aged trans kid?

Liz needs to go. Unelectable

One-third of the vote now in

Sanders (27.8)

Buttigieg (23.5)

Klobuchar (20.0)

Warren (9.6)

Biden (8.8)

R210 Buttigieg leading in delegates on what planet?

That was a bad moment r219. Overall, she had a lot of great ideas, but damn, the trans thing may have killed her campaign. Although I don't think she will drop out immediately. I think she'll at least go through the ritual of South Carolina.

Terence Roberts, Mayor of Anderson, SC has endorsed Pete Buttigieg.

(previously supported Corey Booker)

R217 I think she hired all Twitter SJWs to run her campaign. It was all so cringeworthy. She should have just been herself.

[quote]Overall, she had a lot of great ideas, but damn, the trans thing may have killed her campaign.

Oh stop, it wasn't the trans thing. It was the lack of media coverage that did her in. The story hasn't been about her in a long time.

Even the New York Times wouldn't endorse her without sticking her with Amy who inevitably got all the attention from that endorsement since everyone was so shocked.

Oh please, R226. The media tried over and over to make her happen.

[quote]Columbia, SC, black Mayor, Steve Benjamin, has endorsed Bloomberg.

Was that before or after that audio of Bloomberg talking about throwing those young males up against a wall and frisking them came out? I’m not easily offended but that is fucking disgusting.

Sanders under 27

[quote] Warren should think about dropping out. Biden needs to see what happen in S.C., etc.

She beat him in Iowa and will beat him in NH, but she's the one who needs to drop out?

[quote]Oh stop, it wasn't the trans thing. It was the lack of media coverage that did her in. The story hasn't been about her in a long time.

Oh please, the media has been pushing Warren ever since Kamala left the race. She's gotten nothing but favorable press. But her stans are going to blame her defeat on anything and everything, except Liz running a shitty campaign.

I don't get it, every teenaged trans in NH voted for Warren!

Super Tuesday states, Amy should take Minnesota but with so many of the states being in the south I am wondering who would win those states.

The more electability became voters’ priority, the lower Warren has gone

[quote]Oh stop, it wasn't the trans thing. It was the lack of media coverage that did her in.

Nope. It’s her radical left-wing agenda that America DOES NOT WANT.

[quote] Overall, she had a lot of great ideas, but damn, the trans thing may have killed her campaign.

I don't think anyone paid much attention to the trans thing outside of DL, but healthcare may have done her in. Perhaps she should have followed Bernie's example and given zero details about how she'd pay for her plan.

Steve Kornacki was talking about how Bernie was going to clean up along the Connecticut River since that's the Vermont border.

Except he isn't. I mean, he's winning, but not by much. Pete even picked up a few small places.

The trans thing was not a factor except among deranged loons

[quote]but with so many of the states being in the south I am wondering who would win those states.

The red Republican states will go for money. She has the most crossover appeal for moderates.

^^will go for Amy

bummed about Warren but people seemed to stop supporting her once the press began asking about how she'd pay for medicare for all and also they didn't like her stance that she wasn't in favor of an option

yet Sanders who has not described how he'd pay for medicare for all (again without an option) is soaring

I smell sexism

Warren is much more likable than Sanders and she's more willing to compromise. I'm really afraid if Sanders is the nominee we're going to lose again

Brokered convention in Milwaukee. Those that can hang-in till then will have delegates for bargaining.

Bloomberg, Buttigieg, Sanders, and maybe Klobuchar, may be dealing. One will be President. One will be VP.

A Bloomberg--Buttigeig ticket may be the compromise if Bloomberg collects a plurality of delegates.

Amy IS money!

Warren pandered to the woke crowd. Bernie’s a ConMan. And both of their free everything was going to cost the taxpayers trillions.

Looks like Steyer is out too.

I'm hoping South Carolina doesn't go for Sanders

Despite (or perhaps because of) the fact that they loathe each other, I'm finding some kind of an Amy/Pete ticket appealing.

Well, they're starting start delegate increases. Bernie 7, Pete 6, Amy 4 thus far.

Pete is above 23

Bernie is below 27

[quote]I smell sexism

Let the excuses begin.

well, for a few seconds

r249

remember 4 years ago when people said there weren't enough Democratic candidates and how it was rigged for Hillary to win? Now for the last year people have been bitching there are too many candidates! make up your minds

4 yeas ago there were many repub candidates and it worked out for them.

Why are Democrats always bashed?

[quote] Warren is much more likable than Sanders

No, she isn’t. She’s a dirty liar.

I think states that will never be won by a Democrat, like all the states in the deep South should have a reduced effect on who the eventual Democratic nominee happens to be. Why should people in Alabama and South Carolina have much affect on who the Democratic Party nominee is when their votes will never count on getting them elected. Make no sense to me.

538: "Wealthy, college-educated suburban voters in Hillsborough County (around Manchester) still haven’t been counted. Sanders’ statewide margin is less than 5 percent and we’re waiting on these potentially Buttigieg/Klobuchar-friendly towns (Hooksett, Goffstown, Auburn)."

[quote]really afraid if Sanders is the nominee we're going to lose again

No shit, Sherlock.

R252 Because the media is always conditioning people to bash Dems. They were the ones always saying which Dem is unlikeable, remember? Even with Trump spewing hate right in front of their faces.

Tonight has been good news for Pete. Awesome news for Amy. And Bernie is, once again, under-performing.

The NYT Needle, while still predicting for Bernie, is starting to slide down.

Nicolle and Rachel are on the same panel tonight, and the FUR IS FLYING!

Advantage Nicolle so far.

Pete and Amy are dividing the No Bernie votes...

Yep once Liz came out with a figure of 20+ Trilllion dollars for her health care plan, she scared everyone away.

Would Bloomberg need a black VP? How about Kamala?

[quote]I'm really afraid if Sanders is the nominee we're going to lose again

We will DEFINITELY lose if Sanders is the nominee. That is not even up for debate. Trump was ENCOURAGING Republicans to vote for Sanders in today’s primary, for fuck’s sake.

[quote]Nope. It’s her radical left-wing agenda that America DOES NOT WANT.

Once more for the BernieBots in the back!

In the polls I've seen, Klobuchar polls even lower with blacks in SC than even Pete does but no one ever even talks about it or asks her anything about it.

she wasn't really a factor worth asking that about, right, r266?

[quote] Would Bloomberg need a black VP? How about Kamala?

Since they are all white they are all probably going to need a black VP of the opposite sex.

R266, they just mentioned Klobuchar's low support with blacks on CNN.

Amy is currently celebrating her fine showing in NH with a salad from Panera Bread.

I just hope everyone can come together and vote for whoever the final nom is but I'm afraid at this point. Sanders is so damn radical and his stans seem to hate everyone else

R23, the Balsoms is closed, if you mean that.

[quote]I think states that will never be won by a Democrat, like all the states in the deep South should have a reduced effect on who the eventual Democratic nominee happens to be. Why should people in Alabama and South Carolina have much affect on who the Democratic Party nominee is when their votes will never count on getting them elected. Make no sense to me.

C'mon gurl. Really?!?!

over 50% of precincts are in!!!!!!

New Hampshire loves Bernie Sanders too. So far, he is winning. Americans really have so much in common. We all deserve Modern Medicine. FUCK everyone who tell you, you do not deserve it.

Britney lovers her some Amy!

Pete and Amy need to combine on one ticket (in either combination) for the win against Trump.

We are so fucked.

[quote]Sanders as the nominee will be disastrous for down ticket House, Senate, Governorships, etc. Democrats running in purple and red state blue-leaning districts.

[quote]Yep once Liz came out with a figure of 20+ Trilllion dollars for her health care plan, she scared everyone away.

Meanwhile Bernie has 25+ Trillion in unaccounted-for spending.

God I really hope we aren't headed towards a brokered convention.

With Sanders said the nominee Trump just has to use one word against him, socialist and the Democrats will lose everything.

Bernie’s freebies will cost 60 trillion.

[QUOTE] We will DEFINITELY lose if Sanders is the nominee. That is not even up for debate. Trump was ENCOURAGING Republicans to vote for Sanders in today’s primary, for fuck’s sake.

The same way we were hoping Trump won the 2016 Republican primary, thinking it would make things easier for Hillary. Dems were also being encouraged to cross over and vote for Trump. And look how well it that plan worked.

Republicans might need to be careful what they wish for.

If Sanders, Buttigieg or Bloomberg end up as the nominee, I'm hoping they pick Harris, Abrams or Demmings as VP.

Sanders said at the town hall that he would want someone who thinks like him.

Why isn’t everyone watching MSNBC coverage?

Sanders lead less than 3.5%

Why is it a given that the VP has to be a female POC?

R287, I've broken up with MSNBC. Their treatment of Pete has really pissed me off, so I just stopped watching. If they just weren't so blatant about it.

Black women vote

Sanders is a dumpster-fire.

Manchester NH has a population of 111,196 and while I couldn't see how many votes all the Dem candidates received it appeared to be somewhere less than 20,000. Yeah some are underage and some voted on the Republican ballot but still that is a pathetic turn out, Americans deserve the government they get because they just don't vote.

[quote] I think states that will never be won by a Democrat, like all the states in the deep South should have a reduced effect on who the eventual Democratic nominee happens to be. Why should people in Alabama and South Carolina have much affect on who the Democratic Party nominee is when their votes will never count on getting them elected. Make no sense to me.

Yeah! Let’s totally fuck over the states with the highest black populations, the very heart of the Democrat base. That’ll show ‘em!

If Beto had Pete's rhetorical skills, he would be walking away with everything right now.

Other candidate's voters voting for Bernie should he be the nominee isn't the problem;

The problem is will Bernie's voters vote for any other nominee other than Bernie?

I saw what happened in 2016, I have no desire to see a rerun this year.

[quote] Bernie’s freebies will cost 60 trillion.

Everybody knows that Bernie can't deliver on most of his promises. So for those of you worrying about the costs, it doesn't matter because it's never going to happen. Voters just want Trump out and for Bernie to level the playing field the best he can.

Bernie lead down to 3.26%

[quote]Why isn’t everyone watching MSNBC coverage?

I am, but this comment just made me check FNC and CNN.

FNC is not even covering the primary, which is kind of shocking. They're running hit pieces on Bloomberg for some reason? Lol.

CNN IS covering the primary, but I just don't like CNN panelists. The MSNBC pundits may get cunty, but at least they're not mind-numbingly boring. And CNN's format always has way too many panelists.

I made a rare visit to MSNBC last night after I got home at 9pm, and Rachel Maddow was on there fawning over Michael Bloomberg. He must be spending tons of money for ads on the network. I turned it off after 10 minutes or so. Cable news is dreadful.

Curious how people feel about the race. How do you rank the people still in?

Mine: Pete, Bloomberg, Warren, Amy, Biden, Patrick, Steyer, Sanders, Gabbard

Sherrod Brown would be running away with this thing. What was he thinking by not running?

CNN Exit Poll says Pete won the late-deciding voters.

Why is MSNBC calling this a decisive Bernie victory?

[quote]Curious how people feel about the race. How do you rank the people still in?

Pete, Amy, Biden, Bloomberg, Warren, Steyer, Patrick, Sanders, Gabbard.

Jesus, what is Joy Reid wearing? Are those supposed to be scales?

Bernie would be a disaster as president. He does not play well with others (his ego won't allow him to), and Congress is not just going to roll over and allow all his BIG expensive progressive programs go through without any fighting or compromise.

Bernie compromise? LOL

Bernie can barely make it out of New Hampshire. The rest of the 48 states will destroy him.

r306, we will vote for him if he's the nominee

Why does Joy Reid's hairline start in the middle of her head?

Bernie's lead is down to 2.etc%

I will not vote for Bernie if he’s a nominee. He’s a socialist and I’m a Democrat.

[quote] Biden yelled at a reporter before he fled to SC.

Go candy a yam, you potato-peelin' ink-licking tri-corner hat thief

The President doesn’t pass laws, congress does. Whatever Bernie wants would be spearheaded by House Speaker Pelosi, the same way she did for Obama. Bernie would just be cheerleading the proposals with the biggest megaphone on earth.

bernie lead = 2.76%

r308, never said I wouldn't, but he will be a disaster as president and nothing will get done for 4 years.

Bernie under 27% = loss

Pete over 24% = win

Amy over 20% = win

R289 because it would be real politic justice if the first woman VP got elected while Trump got thrown out. Black woman are the most reliable voters of the Democratic party and they deserve some representation at the top of the party. An all white or all male ticket would be annoying

What is the big deal with Kloubachar? She's Tracy Flick in Election. Also, her record as a prosecutor is terrible. Civil rights and Black Lives Matter will have a field day with her.

Bernie lead = 2.62%

Biden and Warren receive zero delegates from NH tonight. Ouch!

[QUOTE] never said I wouldn't, but he will be a disaster as president and nothing will get done for 4 years.

He’ll get to appoint Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s replacement on the Supreme Court. That’s enough of a reason to vote for him in a general election.

R295 Pete has the “rhetorical skills” of a spam and mayo sandwich on Wonder bread.

R322 = Joy Reid

[quote]Pete has the “rhetorical skills” of a spam and mayo sandwich on Wonder bread

Exactly — calming and reassuring is what most people call "presidential," and they're craving it.

Biden speaking now. Please drop out!

*Cringe* at Joe Biden's South Carolina speech. This is soooo awkward

R315, agreed. To me, the only silver lining from November 2016 was alignment in government—a respite from divided government and stalled progress. Then, Trump failed to rise to the occasion, showed his incompetence and made his corruption known. It feels like the only significant output was judges—which makes him a success for the right. I hope we get a moderate lane Dem for president and regain both chambers of Congress. That way we may get some semblance of accomplishment. The Sanders agenda can only be realized with a shellacking of Trump—2/3 of Senate and majority of the house.

Nancy Pelosi won’t be championing Bernie’s socialist agenda. He will be ignored by both parties

Joe just said “Iowa and Nevada have spoken.” Oy vey.

I love that "Wentworth Location" was split evenly between Pete and Amy with 1 vote each.

Who is Klobuchar's base in NH? Are there a lot of ladies who speak to managers there?

I blame Obama for Biden. Period. Biden was always the fuck up until Obama resurrected his career and made him VP. Big mistake.

I think Pete won. He far exceeded expectations, while Bernie failed to meet expectations. Amy won, too; and Biden also lost.

r331, check out five thirty eight's website. they are endlessly chronicling klobuchar's base

[quote]Jesus, what is Joy Reid wearing?

And I think a spaceship landed on her head.

Joy and Rachel have such ill-hidden contempt for Pete. In 2008, it was clear that Rachel was in the bag for Obama. I love that a similarly less qualified candidate is eating her preferred candidates’ lunches. The chickens are coming home to roost.

bernie lead - 2.77%

[quote]Whatever Bernie wants would be spearheaded by House Speaker Pelosi, the same way she did for Obama.

Pelosi can’t stand Sanders, and will not bring most of his ridiculous proposals to a vote in the House.

Sanders said he would sign any improvements to things like taxes and healthcare. Obviously he wants gigantic changes but I think he knows those aren't a reality at this point. I'ts his dumbass supporters who don't know that

Early results have Pete winning Hanover, home of Dartmouth. Bernie won big in 2016.

Pete is an out gay man and he won one presidential primary, and is kicking ass in the second one. This is an historic run, but the historic nature of this run is totally being ignored. The media should be ashamed. Remember this gays.

Please can someone post a picture of Joy Reid in her ridiculous outfit?

[quote]What is the big deal with Kloubachar? She's Tracy Flick in Election. Also, her record as a prosecutor is terrible. Civil rights and Black Lives Matter will have a field day with her.

Black Lives Matter going after Klobuchar... will bring out lots of white Republicans and moderates to vote for her.

There’s no way in hell that Nancy Pelosi will just ignore the Democratic President of the United States. Hell, she’s been working with Trump the entire time, even through his impeachment, and you think she won’t work with Bernie?

I haven't picked a favorite yet, my primary is in May, (Indiana) but Pete is the only candidate that I don't get immediately bored and tune out while he is talking and I have been hearing Pete talk a lot longer than all of you because I live in the South Bend TV market. I still have reservations about each of the candidates including Pete and I will vote for the Democratic nominee but at least I don't find Pete boring as all the others. It isn't about him being gay and no I am not attracted to him in the least, I think he would be doing even better if he wasn't gay.

I know some of you hate him and that is your right to do so, but some people find him refreshing and different. Even a whole bunch of straight people.

R318, Amy's next on Bernie pit bull Shaun King's social media hit list, trust and believe.

bernie lead - 2.55%

smallest lead yet

Nancy will not work with Bernie.

I wonder if Joe will show up for his scheduled appearance on The View Thursday.

I am just amused at how everyone keeps ignoring Nevada.

R348 she has to or else she would face a revolt from the more liberal members of the caucus like AOC.

It feels as though Biden's campaign is reaching its last gasps.

Oh lord, “Kornacki Cam?!?” I love me some Steve, but Brian Wlilliams’ praise of him is so lame.

R 346 Shaun King, that white guy pretending to be black?

[QUOTE] Nancy will not work with Bernie.

Then she won’t be the Speaker of the House. The progressives will have her removed.

bernie lead - 2.46%

lower still

r313 I could have sworn that when there was the whole kerfuffle over Queen Nancy becoming Speaker after the midterms, that she agreed to step down as Speaker after the 2020 election. Am I misremembering things or was this just a promise to get the Speakership that won't actually happen? TIA.

Amy’s signage is so substandard.

R346 Shaun King, that white guy pretending to be black?

—corrected

[quote][R348] she has to or else she would face a revolt from the more liberal members of the caucus like AOC.

Do you think Nancy gives one red fuck about that idiot AOC?

[quote]The progressives will have her removed.

They don't have the votes.

[quote]Amy’s signage is so substandard.

That's why she needs Pete. He can plus her.

I agree with R284. I'm no longer prepared to say that the Dems will lose if Sanders is the nominee. Back in 2016, so many of us took it for granted that Trump's nomination would be a disaster for the GOP.

I love Bloomberg! Who gives a shit about the 4th Amendment, right?!

Well R357 you’re right in a sense, but there’s no such things as guarantees in politics. If she wants to keep going as Speaker, I believe she has the votes.

bernie lead - 2.37%

lowest still with 2/3 vote in

R351 The majority of Democrats in the house could give a shit about AOC.

So is Warren basically toast after tonight?

This is SO not the way I saw all this unfolding!

I am Amy Klobuchar and I can't beat Bernie Sanders or Pete Buttigieg but I will beat Donald Trump.

R341 That “Pete the miracle candidate” narrative is wearing as thin as his nonexistent personality.

Even if Bernie ends up with the most delegates, this is no kind of victory for him.

If Warren steps down, then Biden should step down as well. She’s outperforming him after all.

The Amy and Pete votes say people want fresh faces. The Bernie votes say he's still got a cult. Biden and Warren are not fresh faces nor do they have a cult!

Pelosi knows her caucus and if there’s a lack of support for Sanders’ radical agenda, she will not bring it up for debate if the votes are not there. Which they won’t be.

I think this is going to end up being Bernie vs. Bloomberg.

bernie lead - 2.31%

first time bernie's vote is under 26%

* correction

bernie lead - 2.29%

Amy: “bearing the odds.” WTF?

By all accounts, she should be the heir apparent to Hillary supporters. Her strong performances in Senate hearings, Midwest bona fides, and a youthful, common sense aura should have made her a player from the beginning.

[QUOTE] Pelosi knows her caucus and if there’s a lack of support for Sanders’ radical agenda, she will not bring it up for debate if the votes are not there. Which they won’t be.

The votes for Medicare For All are definitely there.

I guess the Bernie bro youth vote were all doing homework instead of voting.

I’ve had enough of the pundits blah-blah-blahing over candidates I don’t give a shit about except Pete.

Bloomberg’s gonna swoop in and take it all, anyway, which is fine with me.

Elizabeth Warren is

Grampa’s coffee can again.

Nate Silver: "Bernie’s margin now down to 2.3 points, per Decision Desk HQ. This is starting to get into white-knuckle territory."

R378 The Medicare for all desire and may be there but the price tag would sink the Democrats throughout the country.

I hope Pete wins NH.

[quote]The NYT Needle, while still predicting for Bernie, is starting to slide down.

Link, please.

R378 Are they in Susan Collins withered crotch?

[QUOTE] I think this is going to end up being Bernie vs. Bloomberg.

That’s what I’m thinking too.

It damn sure won’t be Pete or Amy Klobuchar. Their run is coming to an end.

Bernie’s 2.3 in his own backyard is a disaster.

R382 Alcoholic dad too.

Times needle is on landing page, but the Times is basically so far behind on vote total, it doesn't matter

If you go back far enough, the vast majority of people’s ancestors were trash. Hence, the American dream.

Needle.

It's bounced a bit. But the general trend has been down. Their pre-return call was Bernie by six points.

bernie lead - 2.13%

lowest yet

Did anyone know that Amy's father was an alcoholic?

OK Amy can't win if it's going to be an endless parade of her family story.

bernie lead under 2% now

TMI, Amy. Somebody hand the woman a stapler.

Dis you watch Kavanaugh humiliate her at his confirmation hearing?

R391, yeah, I'm surprised how far behind the NYT vote total is. I can't remember it being so far behind before.

He was, R395? Did she also announce her candidacy in a blizzard?

Good news for Rachel Dratch.

bernie lead - 2.17%

back up

Pete and Amy got the momentum. They will come out of NH energized.

Everyone is ignoring the Gay Man who did better than Amy.

The MSM has it out for Pete and it is so obvious.

Amy is long-winded.

Bernie cannot expand his support behind his base of Bro’s. He has absolutely no appeal to anyone else and is not electable.

Ughh! Pete, please catch up before the end of the tally.

I like Amy way more when she goes full-blown cunt.

Oh no, she trotted out that ‘King of Denmark’ quip again.

[quote] Dis you watch Kavanaugh humiliate her at his confirmation hearing?

When you come back from lunch and apologize for what you said, I think it is pretty clear that it was Kavanaugh who was humiliated not Amy.

Bernie comes out NH bruised and vulnerable.

I think Decision Desk HQ might suspect we'll end up in a nail-biter. They pointed out that the areas still to return are demographically favorable to Pete.

He's got Butt-mentum, baby.

Has Amy found a tranquilizer dosage that works for her?

She seems much less shaky tonight than usual.

Or is it just that she feels more comfortable in a smaller audience than the debates?

She keeps recycling all the same lines.

If Bernie can’t win decisively in New Hampshire he can’t win anywhere else.

The center is dominating... Pete + Amy + Biden = 50.2%

Bernie + Liz = 30%

Someone get the hook and pull her off stage. Please.

bernie lead - 1.94%

back below 2 (for now)

Aren't we about two hours past when they called it in 2008?

How is the cult trying to spin that?

CNN now acknowledging that the race between Bernie & Pete has tightened.

R420 They will blame the Dem party for "cheating" them out of votes, of course!

MSNBC is leaving Amy still talking, that is too funny.

Amy delivers the same ole talking points and stories heard several times prior. Say something fresh.

r411, she choked.

I wish Kuntbuchar wasnt in the race. Now Bernie's gonna win it.

Too long-winded!

Bernie (25.83%)

Pete (23.89%)

Klobuchar (20.08%)

[QUOTE] Pete + Amy + Biden = 50.2%

Good. Now which two are going to drop out rather than continuing to split the vote? Because if all three keep soldiering on, plus Bloomberg starting on Super Tuesday, then that’s great news for Bernie.

Yes, Tom Perez, who defeated Pete to become party chair, has been in a wine cave for the last two years cooking up a scheme to get the mayor of the fourth largest city in Indiana in position to destroy Bernie.

pete above 24%!

Pete lost to Tom Perez?? What an embarrassment.

bernie lead - 1.61%

MSNBC saying Amy’s speech was one of the best ever by a female candidate.

Nicolle Wallace is all in for Amy. Loooves the “alcoholic dad” stories.

Pete dropped out before the vote for Party Chair, but he wasn't going to win, he was just too unknown.

I have new appreciation for Amy all of a sudden

The combined moderate vote is clobbering the combinded Warren and Sanders vote.

IN other news that no one cares about Republican Primary with 58% reporting

Donald Trump 86.2% 63,970 votes

Bill Weld 8.8% 6,513

Klobuchar clearly has emotional/anger issues that arose around her father's alcoholism. She's a "dry drunk," family style.

She didn't go to Al-Anon or therapy and work that shit out. So she rages against her staff members and throws office supplies and punishes them for disloyalty by trying to get them fired from new jobs. She's passive-aggressively (or aggressive-aggressively) paying her father back on the campaign trail by mentioning his alcoholism at every opportunity.

The man was a famed regional newspaper columnist, but now to all of America he is Amy's Drunk Dad.

Pete's doing very well. I hope Amy doesn't fuck that up. I can't see her up against Trump.

Was he an alcoholic? You'd think that's a story she would have mentioned on the campaign trail.

Bernie is done. He's not the front-runner as the media hyped him to be. He's back to being the side show "spoiler" he was in 2016.

R432 Pete lost the DNC to Ellison. And Pete was a complete unknown at the time

Aw, I liked Bennet. Why didn't he catch on? Did he just join in too late?

Amy Klobuchar's father is still alive at 91, not bad for a drunk. He must be so proud she mentioned him.

Nicolle Wallace likes Pete too.

Chris Matthews is all in for Amy too. He just gushed over her.

The Bros are going to be rabid after this embarrassment.

Chris likes Pete too.

[quote]Aw, I liked Bennet. Why didn't he catch on? Did he just join in too late?

He is a terrible, awkward, charisma-free campaigner.

Seems like a good guy, though.

[quote]The man was a famed regional newspaper columnist, but now to all of America he is Amy's Drunk Dad.

Lots of people have fucked up family situations and difficult parents. Her story is very relatable to people, which is why she repeats it often.

Who would have thought we'd be in a world where Chris Matthews is the most reasonable MSNBC anchor?

MSNBC has acknowledged the tightening of the race, finally.

If Bernie isn’t the frontrunner, then the Dems don’t have a frontrunner and we’re fucking fucked all the way to a brokered convention. We need to coalesce around SOMEBODY—I don’t give a damn who it is, so long as it’s not Bloomberg.

[quote] The Bros are going to be rabid after this embarrassment.

Sanders was claiming he won Iowa, being upset about actually winning isn't going to happen, they will spin it.

R449 Yes, prepare for their rabid attacks on Pete and Amy! It's all such standard procedure for the Bernie cult after every disappointing performance.

[quote]I can't see her up against Trump.

I can.

Wanna bet Pete will start speaking and they won't cut away so Rachel can go on with Warren?

[quote] Lots of people have fucked up family situations and difficult parents. Her story is very relatable to people, which is why she repeats it often.

Yes, I grew up in WI and am just a few years younger than Amy and many aspects of her story are very similar to my family's story.

How about an Amy/Pete ticket.

I am all in for Pete.

I'm not sure that this narrative that's emerging that it's fair to compare the totals of Pete, Amy and Biden and put them up against Bernie or even Bernie + Warren, because voters defy logic. When you look at many voters' second choices (if their preferred candidate doesn't win), they don't always gel ideologically. Warren is a second choice for a majority of voters, Bernie is number 2 for large percentage of Biden voters, for example.

Things will emerge as clear as mud after tonight. I don't think we'll have any of the major candidates dropping out before SC, of more likely, Super Tuesday.

Amy's father's grandparents were all from Slovenia, does that make her just another.....

I really dont understand how Warren isnt dropping out? What path could she possibly see to the nomination?

The other part that is good news. Even though Warren is collapsing Bernie isn’t benefitting from it. It would be interesting to see a gender breakdown of Warren’s support. My sense is Warren women are moving to Amy.

bernie lead - 1.96%

Me too, r457.

Too bad Bennet was an uninspiring campaigner.

Like r445, I liked him too, but r451 is right.

Sanders 56,442 (25.90%)

Buttigieg 52,166 (23.93%)

Embarrassment for Bernie.

I think Amy and Pete, most likely.

I honestly think that if Amy hadn't had such a strong debate performance (and good for her having it) Pete would have clearly won this.

Warren seems ready to cry.

Great night for Pete. His momentum keeps growing and it’s real.

Elizabeth Warren almost burst into tears on MSNBC.

R465 Women are not voting for Sanders in large numbers.

Trip Gabriel:

"The exit polls show a big gender gap: 57% of voters were women, 43% were men. Klobuchar won a plurality of women and Sanders of men."

Terry McAuliffe giving Pete credit on CNN

I didnt really mind Sanders until someone pointed out what a lazy fuck he is. Decades in the Senate and he only passed 7(?) laws and didn't really get anything done in all this time. To be effective in the Senate and get shit done, you have to compromise, work with your colleagues and have good connections. He has none of these qualities and was a horrible, lazy, ineffective senator.

[quote]If Bernie isn’t the frontrunner, then the Dems don’t have a frontrunner and we’re fucking fucked all the way to a brokered convention.

Bill Clinton didn't become a frontrunner until after the first 11 contests in 1992. That worked out pretty well for the Democrats.

[quote][R465] Women are not voting for Sanders in large numbers.

That can't be. Didn't Twitter prove that most of Bernie's supporters are young women?

I really like Warren, but she had a bad strategy. If she had run a campaign more like Klobuchar’s, the race would be very different. She chose another way.

I hope Warren stays in at least through Super Tuesday. I just wish she would clearly carve out a lane for herself that's to the right of Bernie, but to the left of Pete/Amy/Joe. I think there's a lot of untapped Democratic voters that fall in that range.

[quote]To be effective in the Senate and get shit done, you have to compromise, work with your colleagues and have good connections.

You mean like Klobuchar has been doing for years now?

r460, how about a 50 state loss?

Pete/Amy

altho if Pete is the one, he will be heavily pressured to pick a female POC for VP.

Sanders 2016 - 152,193 (60.1%)

Sanders 2020 - 56,687 (25.87%)*

It feels like, even if Bernie maintains the overall numerical advantage, he'll get maybe one extra delegate. Which would put him and Pete even.

Won't happen but I would love to see Warren as the majority leader in the Senate, it would kill McConnell.

Anderson just mentioned that Buttigieg is only 1.8% behind Bernie right now.

[quote]Amy Klobuchar's father is still alive at 91, not bad for a drunk. He must be so proud she mentioned him.

Mentioned him? It's a Renee Zellweger acceptance speech.

Sanders is a HUGE story.

He's dropped from a MASSIVE 60% in New Hampshire in 2016 to just 25% in 2020.

Only 25% chose a Socialist.

A socialist will not win the White House.

R478 Did you not read my post? Amy got more women voters than Sanders.

The majority of Sander votes were male.

David Axelrod giving Pete credit for appealing to a wide range of demographics across NH tonight.

Van Jones is TRANSFIXED by Amy’s alcoholic dad and grampa’s coffee can stories.

No, I'm sorry, R489. I read it on Twitter and it feels true.

Therefore, it's true.

uh, there were two candidates then r488

NEWS: Former Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick is expected to suspend his presidential campaign Wednesday, a source familiar with the announcement confirms to CBS News. The announcement will likely be made in an email to supporters.

R488 - that feels like spin at best. How on earth can you compare a completely binary choice in 2016 to this messy field? Clearly, voters are torn at this stage and this is probably going to continue until the field narrows.

R495 Bernie’s been a politician his whole life. He’s nationally known for decades. He was a 2016 candidate. And he did this poorly?

It’s a BIG STORY!

r495: it goes like this.

in 2016, people hated hillary and trump. bernie benefited from that in the dem nominating process. when someone other than hillary ran, bernie's support imploded on a relative basis.

is it apples to apples? no. but is it relevant that bernie is running about 35% points behind where he was in 2016? yes.

There is a limited appetite for a far-left agenda, and Bernie already has most of those people. Liz isn’t getting any further support beyond what she has now..,which is single digits.

[quote][R488] - that feels like spin at best. How on earth can you compare a completely binary choice in 2016 to this messy field? Clearly, voters are torn at this stage and this is probably going to continue until the field narrows.

Bernie went into this better known than everyone but Biden, and he lives right next door. A win is a win, but he's winning by about 2% over a gay man who no one had heard of last year.

I’ve known who Bernie is forever. I’ve only been familiar with Pete for about six months. And Pete did extremely well tonight.

[quote]NEWS: Former Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick is expected to suspend his presidential campaign Wednesday

Why even bother suspending it? Nobody knew he had a campaign anyway.

I wouldn't even have tried to pronounce Pete's last name until about July. I especially didn't think I was planning to vote for him, even if it ultimately ends up being a quixotic vote because the primary in my state is so late.

While we wait for more results, we have preliminary delegate numbers that seem unlikely to change.

Sanders 9 Buttigieg 9 Klobuchr 6

R499 Like I said, that narrative is wearing very thin at this point. And black folks in SC sure as hell aren’t impressed by it. Or him.

NEW HAMPSHIRE -- Current delegate count

Sanders - 8

Buttigieg - 7

Klobuchar - 6

Warren - 0

Biden - 0

yeah I gotta hand it to Pete. I think he's too conservative, and he should drop any bullshit deficit hawking, but he is definitely catching on with a lot of people. No doubt.

So when they drop out, I'm guessing Warren's voters will mostly switch to Bernie, and Biden's will mostly switch to Pete? Or is that too simplistic?

Yes. Because the support Warren has lost so far hasn't gone to Bernie.

My suspicion is that when Warren gets out, she endorses Amy or no one.

Amy is a terrible name for a president.

It's too simplistic, R508. Voters' second choices don't always appear to be logical... or ideological. Biden supporters also favor Bernie. Warren is the second choice of most voters polled. But, this is obviously dynamic and can shift week to week.

I can't imagine Biden dropping out before South Carolina, and he still has a chance to do well there. Warren? Oh, I don't know. She's come this far and was so good for awhile. I wonder if she'll try to cling to life until South Carolina as well, though I can't imagine it would do her much good.

[quote]So when they drop out, I'm guessing Warren's voters will mostly switch to Bernie, and Biden's will mostly switch to Pete? Or is that too simplistic?

Amy will pick up a portion of both Warren’s and Biden’s supporters.

Bernie is cancelling Warren and Buttigeig will cancel Amy, and while theyshit aroundBLoomberg iscancelling all ofthem starting with Biden.

There are a sizable number of women who will only vote for a woman in the primary as long as there is one to vote for, so I would see quite a few Warren votes going to Amy, but it doesn't sound like Warren is ready to give up just yet.

I think they're waiting until Durham, where UNH is, to report.

That should be Bernie country, but he actually under performed there last time. Hanover, where Dartmouth is, went for Pete.

I’m interested to see what Buttigieg has planned now that Iowa and New Hampshire are done. I’m pretty sure he is going to fade fast once the voting population expands beyond college educated white women.

Durham:

Sanders-1658

Buttigieg-1115

Klobuchar-754

Warren-606

The progressive lane in NH:

Bernie + Liz = 35%

Moderate lane:

Pete+ Amy+Joe = 53%

538 says to look for salem results

I agree that Amy is terrible name for a president. I’m not sure why I feel that way but I definitely agree.

Why are these votes taking so long to report, I figured it would be over by now.

Why are you overlooking NV Primary Nov 22? Early voting starts Feb 15 and voters have the option to Caucus. Rio and Wynn Casinos are both hosting Caucus'.

[quote]we’re fucking fucked all the way to a brokered convention.

Nobody is dropping out. This is not 2016.

It will be a NEGOTIATED convention with the CANDIDATES doing the negotiations.

Bernie is fucked if he doesn't reach 51% on the first ballot. He won't.

Has participation dropped in NH as well? If so then this doesn't bode well for the general.

Claire McCaskill is really a terrific contributor!

just over 80% in and bernie's lead is about 1.65%

not much remaining for pete to catch up on

Oh come on, haven't three people dropped out just tonight? Why are people convinced that nobody will drop out after South Carolina? After Super Tuesday? Really, everyone is going to choose to be a zombie?

Read between the lines. Deficit Hawking plays well with independents, moderates, and Republicans. Pete’s playing the long game.

R527, yeah, there probably aren't enough votes left to pull Pete over the top, but placing a very close 2nd is still a big win for him.

White elitist liberals who love Pete Buttigieg.... how can I explain this to you?

He's the Democratic Ted Cruz.

Anyone who votes for him are votes you were already getting anyway with any other candidate.

Oh sweet jesus, I hope Pete's not counting on winning over Cult members? That's a lost cause.

[quote]Why are these votes taking so long to report, I figured it would be over by now.

Because networks tend to wait until there is a 3-point or greater lead before calling it, or more than two-thirds of the vote in.

Because it's a multi-candidate race with only a 2-point difference between 1st and 2nd, they are being cautious about calling it.

[quote] He's the Democratic Ted Cruz.

are you saying his father had lunch with Lee Harvey Oswald?

[quote]I agree that Amy is terrible name for a president

Is it worse than Jimmy?

Or how about Grover?

"Former Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick is expected to suspend his presidential campaign Wednesday"

Who the hell is this? Never even heard of him.

If Bloomberg really gets the nomination it would suck though. All he did is enter late and spent a shitload of money on ads. He did not participate in any debates or did rallies or town halls. Very unfair compared to the "work" and devotion of the other candidates. But money always wins in the States. Ugh.

Bloomberg is toast. That audio is devastating.

Well, if anything, I hope this time around has shown once and for all that things like enthusiasm and fund raising make terrible metrics.

looks like more have voted already in 2020 than 2016 on the dem side with about 20% of the vote to be counted. so up on turnout, yes?

[QUOTE] yeah, there probably aren't enough votes left to pull Pete over the top, but placing a very close 2nd is still a big win for him.

You either win or you don’t. And what state is he going to win next?

R533 I wasn't talking about the networks calling it, I was talking about the actual votes being reported. The last polls closed almost 3 hours ago, some votes were in within a half an hour why the hell does it take three hours to look at a voting machine and report the vote, this isn't a caucus.

R540 Bernie’s appeal outside New Hampshire is over. Pete’s got plenty of appeal in other states including Nevada where I am.

You Go, Petey !

Pete is so fucking bland and boring. All he does is spout meaningless platitudes. It's like he cut words out of Barack Obama's biggest hits and haphazardly taped them together.

Jesus Christ. A gay man is in the lead for president of the United States.

Pete has 20 delegates to Bernie's 19.

What a moment. Even if it lasts just til the next primary, what a moment.

I'm 43 and never thought I'd see this in my lifetime.

R544 you are a Bernie Bro, aren't you?

Agreed, R545. It's a historic moment for a gay man to come this far.

I find Pete inspiring.

R542, Not to sidetrack the election coverage but have you any idea which way Las Vegas labor unions will go? They're decision along with the powerhouse casinos will dictate the direction of the state.

[QUOTE] Bernie’s appeal outside New Hampshire is over. Pete’s got plenty of appeal in other states including Nevada where I am.

WTF? Bernie is the frontrunner in Nevada and California.

[quote] meaningless platitudes

The part where he thanks the love of his life, Chasten, a dude, is way new, though.

Pochahontas must be spitting out fire tipped arrows aimed straight at Pete's heart

Me too, R548. It's the same feeling I had in 2008 with Obama.

that is true, r545. Don't mean to discount that. It is a great moment for all gay people, regardless of our politics.

What did he say about Chasten and his hole?

Has Warren spoken or is she pulling a Hillary and collapsing until tomorrow?

R550 Bernie’s not winning Nevada and not California. I was born in California and living in Nevada. I don’t hear anybody talking about Bernie here but they are talking about Pete.

Of course, Rachel had to interrupt Pete's speech to let us know Sanders won NH.

MSNBC uses a terrific head shot of Pete.

r556 Warren spoke early - there was no need for her to wait. She congratulated Bernie and Pete.

I'm happy for Pete and I'm glad he's doing well. But it sucks Big Bucks Bloomberg is lurking in the shadows and he really doesn't have a shot.

R549 Pete’s been talking to the labor unions here in Nevada.

He’s been also talking to the Latino communities here too

I like Pete but I wish he'd speak more plainly. Every speech doesn't have to be his inaugural address.

Yeah Sanders won the state overall. But Pete was a very close second.

I can’t stand Rachel.

R557 is on some bullshit. We’ve got actual polls showing Bernie with a commanding lead in California versus a few anecdotal stories from some conversations among people you know. Yeah, I think I’ll stick with the polls.

Embarrassing for Bernie since the pools in Iowa and New Hampshire were supposed to be a blowout for him. And they weren’t. Not even close

"Ideas are the issues that liberty makes us independence. Freedom's bold unity is belonging"

Polls

Pretty amazing showing for Pete right in Bernie’s backyard.

Klobuchar fucked him a bit but absolutely decimated Warren/Biden.

Maddow cuts into Pete's speech to declare Bernie the projected winner. Stick Bernie all the way up your poop shoot, MSNBC.

Bernie couldn’t win even in his own backyard

Well this is it for me, because I'm not sticking around to hear Bernie yell at everybody.

I bet Pete Buttigieg was opposed for gay marriage when he was closeted back in the day.

He just strikes me as that type.

For R557

[quote]Has Warren spoken or is she pulling a Hillary and collapsing until tomorrow?

She spoke a couple of hours ago.

Congratulated Pete & Bernie, and recognized her fellow female colleague, Amy.

On the evening he emerges with momentum from NH, Bernie is nuked in Nevada by Culinary with flyers in Spanish and English at union properties and direct communication to its 60,000 members via text and email.

A ratcheting up of the campaign targeting him. This is something.

[quote] Wanna bet Pete will start speaking and they won't cut away so Rachel can go on with Warren?

I turned off MSNBC when Rachel Maddow interrupted Pete's CONCESSION SPEECH to announce that Bernie had won the New Hampshire primary.

[quote] I like Pete but I wish he'd speak more plainly. Every speech doesn't have to be his inaugural address.

Better get use to it, that is the way he talks pretty much all the time, I have seen it for 8 years as Mayor.

Wait, I thought MSNBC was part of the massive conspiracy to keep Bernie down! Wheels within wheels.

[QUOTE] Maddow cuts into Pete's speech to declare Bernie the projected winner. Stick Bernie all the way up your poop shoot, MSNBC.

I’m sure every network interrupted him to make the announcement. And they’re all gonna cut away for Bernie’s victory speech right now. Stop taking everything so personal.

[quote]Pochahontas must be spitting out fire tipped arrows aimed straight at Pete's heart

How about sparing us the asinine Trump humor.

fuck

can bernie ever not be a total ass.

can wait for pete to finish before cutting in.

I turned off the tv when that populist ideologue Sanders came on the screen.

All candidates have ignored Nevada compare to the amount of time given to NH and SC. Pete was criticized for ignoring NV back in December.

Let's hope he really hits the ground in NV and not skip it like Joe Biden because a bad showing could definitely cut his momentum.

Isn't it normal for candidates to wait for others to finish their speeches before starting theirs? Shame on Bernie for not letting Pete finish.

Bernie is hardly leaving New Hampshire with any momentum. He’s leaving with his balls between his legs. Pete stopped him in his tracks

[quote]I bet Pete Buttigieg was opposed for gay marriage when he was closeted back in the day.

You're thinking of Aaron Schock.

R585 Pete has an ignored Nevada. He’s been here several times because I’m getting notifications. I am in Nevada

That's Bernie. He's rude.

Told you people don't like him.

Pete now has 23 delegates to Bernie's 21.

😂 Bernie is cold blooded. He probably said “Fuck Pete, let me give my speech so I can go to bed already.”

R577, I told you months ago Vegas' union would decide the winner of NV. Teamster's both current members and retired as well as their spouses and relatives also wields tremendous political power in NV.

R586, it pisses me off, too. Pete needed a couple minutes, and the Berntard sat there and stoked his fans for two minutes before starting. Every time I become open to him, he pulls this shit.

R579, do you live in South Bend? Have you met Pete?

I can't believe there are no recent polls in Nevada. The last one was a month ago! The media really doesn't want to consider the West.

R581 CNN didn't.

Is there a PART TWO?

Bernie Sanders kicks off his speech saying: This victory is the beginning of the end for Donald Trump. He’s focused on the real enemy.

[quote] [R579], do you live in South Bend? Have you met Pete?

Not in South Bend but I do live in the same county and you see Pete on TV all the time. Nope never met him.

Who’s that cute twink on the screen next to Jane Sanders?

Has Queen Amy spoken yet?

“Candidates funded by billionaires.” Go to hell, Bernie. I hope Warren stays in through Super Tuesday to fuck your shit up.

I’m not letting the last comment in this thread be positive towards that populist demagogue Sanders.

Amen R603

If Bernie's so rude, why did he just say...?

"Tonight I want to take the opportunity to express my appreciation and respect for all of the candidates we ran against... Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar, Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden. And what I can tell you, without absolute certainty, and I know I speak for all the Democratic candidates, no matter who wins we are going to unite together and defeat the most dangerous president in the modern history of this country."

R585, Again all Pete has to do win NV is successfully negotiate with the unions. They pay their members to vote, and that includes retirees and spouses and relatives too. Or visit them up to 6 times to make sure that they vote the union chosen slate.

Once Biden started to falter Pete had a clear entry. Unions will never vote for a Socialist. Also both unions and casinos have solid medical coverage. What could Sanders offer? Free college? Most union members go to trade school. Many have dropped out of high school and college isn't seen as important in NV as it is to other states.

I neither hate nor love Bernie but that Jeff Weaver is such an asshole, I do hate him.

R606, just like Donald Trump, Bernie Sanders says one thing and then his twitter army say another. Donald doesn’t name the whistleblower and Bernie doesn’t call Pete a racist, but certainly they make sure it gets said.

Wonder if President Buttigieg will bring his mother to live in the White House the way Michelle Obama did.

Look at the numbers for moderates Buttigieg, Biden and Klobuchar. Add them together, they’re beating the pants off Sanders and did in Iowa too, by large margins. A large majority are voting moderate.

But the vote is so split, because people that can’t possibly win are refusing to drop out. If Biden gets wiped out by Bloomberg or somebody else in SC, he needs to go. Bernie is being artificially propped up by Biden sucking up votes when he can’t win. Same with Warren. If she can’t come back by SC, she needs to go too. Assuming she has the money to get there.

When Bloomberg gets in, he will be another niche candidate like Bernie, and people will mistakenly believe he can win if he gets 15-20%. But he could top out there. The field is so split, if you get 25%, you look viable. But you’re not. No one can win an election when you can only get 25% of your own party.

Some of these people need to drop out immediately. They’re Bernie insurance. Thank god at least Yang went.

I predict this is the beginning of the end of Bernie. Most voters in this country do not want a socialist, and he's not going to do well from here on out. He needs to go home and live a quiet life with his wife, since he probably doesn't have much longer to go.

Yes R544, you’re right. Pete is so boring and bland. Every four years like clockwork, the Democratic Party runs a gay married man for President, and every four years we say, “A gay man is ahead in the primaries AGAIN?!”

It’s getting to the point where I hear my friends say all the time, “When are we finally going to have another straight couple in the White House?”

Even my mother, who loves the way the White House was re-done by the last gay couple, is getting tired of it. She misses seeing all the First Lady dresses.