Reporters and Activists Are Being Harassed for Saying Kobe Bryant Was Credibly Accused of Rape

For someone with a BA from Harvard, she should have a better sense of how public opinion works Especially being a white woman coming out against a black man loved and revered by the general public .

It’s inappropriate. The man and his daughter just died. His family is grieving an unimaginable loss.

None of these reporters give a shit about what happened. They just want sjw points for kicking someone when they’re down.

OP I don't think it's just the women who are harassed online. It's more likely that they are the only ones who complain. If men would complain about "online harassment", most people would laugh at them. How sexist.

Well they’re purposely taking advantage of his death to make their names known. If they truly gave a shit about what he did they would’ve written about it before his death.

Tacky and inappropriate.

[quote] For someone with a BA from Harvard, she should have a better sense of how public opinion works Especially being a white woman coming out against a black man loved and revered by the general public .

Yes all of that black privilege that gave us. President Trump, an overtly racist white supremacist president.

Speaking of whom, the media is not talking about the dozens of credible sexual assault allegations against our current president and perhaps our future president. They are not focused on keeping a rapist out of the White House but they are focused on attempting to re-litigate a rape trial that was dismissed because the accuser refused to testify, after Kobe Bryant and his young daughter and 9 other people are tragically killed.

How many people have suffered terribly and died because of the incompetent menace in chief. Whom the media helped put in office and whom they will gladly help again.

R3 read the article posted in OP

Truth is the defense. People can't take it.

Great! More Kobe threads. Now, the victim complex LSA refugees like r1 will never leave.

People did write about it before Bryant was killed, but insatiable hero-worship towards multi-millionaire athletes and celebrities holds sway over all.

To be honest, him being a rapist is the number one thing I knew about him, I couldn’t have even told you the team he played for.

Rape will always be part of his legacy. Deal with it, black people!

It is his legacy. He is a rapist and I suspect that wasn't the only time. He just got better about covering it up.

Right after he died, I was driving and I heard him described on CNN as a great family man, how his relationship with his wife was a great romance...I kept thinking, “you mean the rapist who famously gave his wife a huge ring as a consolation prize after he was revealed as a rapist? And then having been paid off, she just ‘forgot’ her husband was a rapist? That guy? That’s the great family man?” They described him as a moral role model. Seriously. A lot of women heard that and couldn’t believe the whitewashing of his actual history.

I’m sorry, but once again women are being shut up and told that rape doesn’t matter, someone is a great family guy who’s actually a rapist, why are women such party poopers when it comes to rape? Why can’t they understand he was only having fun, it’s not a big deal? Shut up and quit complaining.

A woman got suspended for reporting the truth. I thought reporters were supposed to report the truth, and not get punished for it. All these people complaining about Trump lying every two minutes, or minimizing the sexual assaults he committed, think it’s fine when a basketball player does it. That’s the height of hypocrisy.

I feel sorry for his wife, but she’s well aware she chose to stay with a rapist. Don’t know why we should have to cover up reality for her. As far as the truth hurting her children, again, it’s not a secret what he did. She knew and chose to stay with him for money. Now she wants to avoid the consequences of her actions, and the rest of us are supposed to suspend reality so she can avoid being a grownup.

What do you think they’ll say when Bill Clinton dies? “He was the greatest husband ever. Perfect family man. Monica Lewinsky? Never heard of her”?

Come on. Kobe is not above all possible criticism.

Look at it this way. Michael Jackson had children too. Didn’t stop people from reporting the child molestation and drug abuse accusations when he died. Everybody knew his family could hear. Didn’t stop reporters from reporting his whole history, not just the flattering parts. That’s their job.

Athletes are not exempt from all possible criticism. There’s nothing about throwing a ball in a ring that makes a man a saint.

David Bowie was a rapist

[quote]Well they’re purposely taking advantage of his death to make their names known. If they truly gave a shit about what he did they would’ve written about it before his death.

That's what I said in an earlier thread. Whether one believes it or not, they had years to write articles about this. Even when he retired, they could've written things. They would've gotten shit then, but not like this. There is absolutely no point in doing this now because whatever message they think they're sending will be lost due to their choice of timing and how his end came. He's dead. The rapist is dead along with his 13yo daughter and 7 other people. What have they accomplished in saying it? Nothing.

Learn to pick your battles - bad choice this time.

Who is this “David Bowie is a rapist” troll that showed up and is everywhere?

What if it had been fatass Ben Rothesberger who died? Would we have been allowed to talk about his obese ass being a rapist? Or do we hope he doesn't croak early enough, and retires, so we can wait for him to be inducted into the HoF and THEN call his morbidly obese, bald ass a 'rapist'?

And what about Michael Vick? Sad but people in our society care more about dogs.

Kobe will be dead for a long time, so there is no rush to discuss his legacy while 9 people are being buried. It's not like "People can be many different things" is such a profound thought that it must be uttered now.

R17, when Bill Clinton dies, Hillary is going to be dragged through the mud all over again, even though she’s not the one that did the cheating. Republicans will rip her apart, criticizing her for having the audacity of being married to her own husband. They’ll bring up her emails, Monica Lewinsky and every other woman he ever slept with, ask those women for comments and most of them will be tactless enough to comment. Lewinsky will probably say something awful attacking Hillary. And nobody’s going to stop them. Nobody’s going to care how Hillary feels. They’ll do it anyway.

This idea that if someone misbehaved during their life, no one’s ever going to bring it up again, is not true. Republicans ended that. So virtually every person that acted up in their life is going to be called out for it when they die. It’s not the Victorian era any more. People know what happened and they’re going to talk about it. No point in shooting the messenger.

r18 How am I troll? David Bowie was a rapist

[quote] I don't care. My coworker said his grown son cried over this. It took everything in me not to laugh.

[quote] Not before he paid off his wife with a ring and some houses. What a storybook romance!

[quote] Great! More Kobe threads. Now, the victim complex LSA refugees like r1 will never leave.

[quote] Rape will always be part of his legacy. Deal with it, black people!

Being a white male in a country that is 70+ percent white/owned and by white men and still being a failure and watching a black male be so incredibly gifted and successful must really eat away at your (soul and brain).

I don't understand why people are celebrating a rapist, at all. He played a stupid fucking game. And was way over-payed for doing so. Why is anyone celebrated for playing a game? It's a game. It's irrelevant. It's stupid. It's something idiots do instead of learning. Kobe Bryant was a rapist who made a career of recess.

R25 because posters like the LSA infiltrator r24 can't stand to have someone they are trying to canonize revealed as anything less than perfect.

The main people who seem to be getting furious about it and telling people to STFU are people of the same color as Kobe. Black Twitter is revealed to be as hardline and fascist as right wing Twitter.

I don’t recall hearing kobe raping women recently ! All I heard was him being a great father and philanthropist..and strong supporter of womens athletics.. Do these dingbats not think a person can evolve for the better??

R22 Like Republicans can say shit, their shit president is a serial rapist and groper. They made their shit covered bed and now get to lie in it. Repbulucans can no longer point fingers at dem presidents when their president is a treasonous rapist pig.

A female journalist from Canada is getting death threats and people threatening to rape her and her children over it.

Still, probably beats dying in prison.

R29 Goes to show what type of followers that rapist had, pedos and rapists.

Meant to add, he's got some lovely fans.

Yeah, it could have waited, but no it couldn’t. The absolute frenzy was kind of sickening.

The number one thing I knew about him was that he gave his wife a grossly expensive ring after being a rapist.

And I guarantee he was banging that coach who was in the helicopter. Big romance with his goddigging wife, indeed.

The same thing happened after Paul Walker died.

His girlfriend was 23 when he died, but they’d been together since she was 16 (and he was 33).

Funny how all it takes is a beloved sports celebrity who dies stupidly with his daughter and all of a sudden #metoo takes a big back seat. Now nobody wants to hear about it.

R35, this is because the black community barely has any current “famous” heroes.

Look at R Kelly... Unlike Kobe he isn’t even charismatic or even considered pleasant to be around him. Yet the black community protected him from any accusations for decades, If those accusations came from non black people, they got labeled as racists. So instead, non black people made jokes about R Kelly for decades before a black person finally had too much and called him out publicly.

Look at Cosby, it took nearly 40 accusations before black people kinda admitted he was a rapist. Hell, even black people who think Cosby is guilty still protect him. If you bring it up with them, they instantly change subject (but what about other rapists?!)

And then there’s white liberal women who only care because they want to be seen as woke.

One white female I know doesn’t even watch basketball and is a hardcore metoo supporter yet she is making posts on social media about how heartbroken she is despite never having even know what sport he played. Of course, she has no black friends so it’s only other white liberals pretending to be woke who are telling her they feel her pain too. But she’s getting tons of replies from other woke whites claiming they suddenly love Kobe.

I really miss Shobe. Would love to know what her take on all this.

Just another

Idiotic

Gay-bashing

Asshole who should have been

Banned for his

Offensive

Oratory.

"Subtle" racist at R38. Thinks he's clever. F&F.

No r35, nobody wants to hear about #MeToo because more than a few of the women are lying or leaving out convenient truths, like their own involvement, participation, responsibility.

You walk into an apartment with a sexy, hunky, married athlete and you expect to do what exactly? Discuss your "career " or your "feelings"? Why aren't you asking why you are there? Is there a gun to your head? Please.

#MeToo was dying and this will kill it.

Gays can't be racist, R39, because racism = power + prejudice.

Stop making excuses for homophobes. It's not racist to do to homophobes what they do to us on a daily basis. It's homophobic to keep letting them get away with this bullshit.

Sure Jan, R41.

Stop giving heterosexuals the benefit of the doubt,

Please, because it makes you look like

A self-hating

Dolt and puts

Every gay person alive in harm's way.

In case anyone failed to notice, R38 spelled out a racial slur as you read the first letter of each line going down. So not only is he a racist he's got the mentality of a sixth-grade racist.

R45 is a homophobe.

Calling gays racist is homophobic. Gays have earned the right to slur every race because every race is complicit in homophobia.

If you hypocritical gentile queens think it's okay to call Dave Chappelle a nigger for being able to tell the difference between LGB and the tr-nscult, then it's more than okay to call Kobe that for his homophobia. He should have been fired altogether. I have no fucking sympathy for a dead homophobe, especially one who married an Italian.

[quote] Thanks for sharing that Kobe, you goddamned nigger. —Oooops...I said it out of frustration.

[quote] Double standards--he can call us faggots but we can't call him "ni**er?"

[quote] If a white player had screamed 'fucking n*gger' at a ref, that white player would no longer be a Laker, and perhaps no longer an NBA player period.

[quote]If a white player had screamed 'fucking n*gger' at a ref, that white player would no longer be a Laker, and perhaps no longer an NBA player period. However, this should come as no surprise. As [R33] points out, Kobe is a rapist, so to hold him to civilized standards would be a mistake. The NBA and the Lakers will brush this aside ultimately. If they didn't get wound up about him violating a woman, they won't care about gays being offended.

[quote]And [R33], nobody's saying that you can't call him "nigger." And by all means, please do so loudly and somewhere in public. You know, away from your computer screen. Because as wrong as what Kobe said, he had the stones to say it in public and not hurl racist remarks online like a scared, prissy little queen.

Calling a black homophobe a nigger is more than justified in this case: it is a form of social justice. It's no different than calling white homophobes "crackers." Or is homophobia only wrong when crackers do it but niggers get a free pass for it because crackers enslaved them because they were too fucking lazy to pick their own goddamn cotton?

It's just a word, nigger! Get over it, nigger!

I will continue to use the word "nigger."

I will continue to use the word "cracker."

Gay men and lesbians, say it loud and say it proud:

NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER!

Take back our birthright from those who took it from us!

NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER!

Make the homophobes pay for their homophobia!

NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER!

Gays and lesbians have had enough!

NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER!

I don’t believing in harassing people, but they were wrong and inappropriate. They showed callous indifference during an emotional time for so many.

Homophobic niggers like him prove Archie Bunker was right all along.

Shut your self-loathing homophobic ass the fuck up, R53. Stop coddling homophobic niggers, especially when they marry greasy wop crackers.

If I'm forced to put up with being called faggot and kike by the likes of niggers and crackers, then you'll get called niggers and crackers and LIKE IT!

Stop blaming colonialism and imperialism for homophobia and start putting the blame on the people who perpetuate it, especially when Europe, Israel, and the Americas do more to protect gay rights than Africa.

The most homophobic crackers are the ones who cozy up to niggers.

Stop being bamboozled by these homophobic nigger goy preachers.

I'll give a shit about so-called racism when every country in Africa has gay marriage.

The colonizers left and got rid of their laws against homosexuality. The former colonies did not. Advantage: whitey.

Of course they are. The same thing happened to female journalists were speaking out against R. Kelly all the way up until the documentary series made it cool to think he's a rapist. The race card prevents celebrity rapists and abusers from answering for their crimes until at best the eleventh hour. For further reading see O.J. Simpson.

Black homophobes deserve racism, R61.

I am genuinely shocked by the ridiculous kowtowing the public and celebrities are doing for this violent rapist. It’s absolutely disgusting.

And anyone defending him here is a disgusting pig. He was a rapist. Period. The end.

And that is how he will be remembered. AS A RAPIST.

Period. The end.

I don’t care that he threw a ball around a court (WHO GIVES A FUCK?) or that his daughter was with him. Helicopters are dangerous. His arrogance, wealth that he never should have had, and his stupidity killed him.

GOOD.

I hope his victims rest easier.

FUCK HIM, and FUCK YOU for supporting him. Goddamned lemmings. Who gives a fuck about some fucking basketball player? This is a gay board. Fucking morons.

Self-loathing gays like R63 are complicit in coddling homophobia in minority communities. Being subjected to racism from whites doesn't give you a free pass to take it out on gay people; doing that just gives gay people the right to bash back using the exact same method.

R62 I don't agree with that but it is kind of hypocritical for them to complain about being discriminated against only to turn around and say we're all diseased faggots who deserve to burn in hell. It's the pot calling the kettle black, pun intended.

Oops, never mind, R63. Thought you were a troll. Sorry. Turns out you were right. But my post still applies to the rest of you on the grounds that "he called me a bad name, wah wah wah."

R65, are you for real?

R64 They weren't being homophobic, they were agreeing that Kobe is a homophobic rapist. Don't tackle your teammates.

There are a fair number of trolls who've taken over this thread. Calling Muriel.

R67 Completely. Let me guess, you're going to say that racism and homophobia aren't comparable and that blacks people have it worse than gays and therefore their homophobia is justified. It's the same tired, old, homophobic argument whose only leg to stand on is the claim that white gay men deserve to be violently assaulted for being gay just because they're white.

Agreed, R68, and I apologized. My ignored filter needed to be cleaned out.

No, R70, I was arguing otherwise: that racial slurs are only racist when heterosexuals use them. Gays have been subjected to systemic homophobia, and not all of it has come from whites. EVERY RACE IS COMPLICIT, so gays get to use racial slurs against EVERYONE. Free speech is a privilege we and we alone have earned.

R72 I can't tell if you're fucking with me or not because there are some people on the DL who are crazy enough to believe that.

Being black does not excuse your homophobia. Being gay does not excuse your racism. Minorities can discriminate against other minorities. Being oppressed does not mean you get a free pass to be a bigot. This goes for both sides.

Nigger or cracker, kike or goy, I have had enough of you fucking breeders telling gays what to do. Gays will say and do whatever we want wherever we want to whoever we want whenever we want with no repercussions whatsoever. We are the masters of the human race. We have earned absolute power and absolute moral authority on every issue for the rest of time NO MATTER WHAT.

There is no such thing is a gay racist. Racism = power + prejudice. Power requires strength in numbers gays don't have and breeders do. Therefore, gays have earned the right to call breeders breeders, niggers niggers, and crackers crackers.

There is no such thing as a gay racist. Racism = power + prejudice. Power requires strength in numbers gays don't have and breeders do. Therefore, gays have earned the right to call breeders breeders, niggers niggers, and crackers crackers.

There is no such thing as a Jewish racist either. To even imply such a thing is anti-semitic. And since Israel is the only country in the Middle East that has done anything for gay rights, then it's also homophobic, too.

[quote]Being gay and Jewish means you are permanently absolved from accusations of bigotry of any kind.

Fixed.

Robert Mugabe was the Nigger Hitler.

Heil Nigger Hitler!

Heil Nigger Hitler!

R63 get over it cunt! Has he been accused of raping women or being violent in the past decade!?? Believe it or not People change and this man has been a supporter of all the dykes in the wnba, and they loved him! FYI Some gay men enjoy sports , not everyone is a weak limp wristed faggot bitch like you!!

And not all of us are violently rage-filled self-loathing homophobic nigger lovers like you, R81.

Stop calling gays faggots you fucking niggers!

You stupid racist sexist antisemitic homophobic fucking niggers make me sick to my fucking stomach. You're stupid and ugly, you smell funny, your popular "culture" is tacky and sanctimonious, and every neighborhood you touch turns into a ghetto. You have had civil rights for 55 years and used that and the one-two punches of both Christianity and Islam as a wedge to push your "don't confuse mah skin wit' yo' sin" homophobic propaganda along with a heaping helping of anti-semitism. You deserve racism for that.

[quote]Right after he died, I was driving and I heard him described on CNN as a great family man

I HATE that American thing of saying "a great family man" along with "hard worker" - usually they put those two together. Makes me puke.

What did they do, build the railroads?

[quote] What did they do, build the railroads?

Meanwhile, his uniforms were made in sweatshops along with every product that bore his name and number.

R84 They had to say those things to make him seem more human and less like the brainless, empty multi-millionaire he was.

Nigger movies and TV shows are stupid and offensive because niggers are stupid and offensive. I wish I hadn't wasted my life kowtowing to these hateful violent bigoted scumbags trying to convince myself that their idiotic and bigoted ramblings are in any way funny out of guilt. Niggers are not funny, just stupid and bigoted. Black men don't want anything to do with black women because they're stupid and ugly. And all their idiotic shrieking isn't real music, just coon hollering. Everything every so-called ray-cysts claimed was true, and as a gay man, I owe gay white men a huge apology for throwing you out of the bus. I'm sorry. I apologize to gay white men everywhere.

Hiding in plain sight.

There is a faggot losing his mind in this thread. Is this a side effect of AIDS medication?

Ugh, can't you all just shut up? Stop being homophobic, stop being racist, and stop making both gay people and black people look like uneducated crazy people. Foaming at the mouth isn't a great look on any of you, girls.

There is a homophobic nigger projecting his own psychosis onto gay white men, and his name is R89.

Gays can't be racist no matter what bad names we call anyone because racism requires the power to oppress, something gays don't have and breeders do. That also makes it okay to call breeders breeders.

Stop defending homophobic niggers, you stupid fucking crackers, or you'll get it even worse. Say it. Say the word "nigger." You know you want to.

[quote]Ugh, can't you all just shut up?

Can't you stop defending homophobic niggers for one second and admit that WHITE PEOPLE ARE MORE PROGRESSIVE THAN BLACK PEOPLE AND THEREFORE A SUPERIOR RACE, you self-hating cracker?

Muriel is going to have a field day with the red tags once she gets here.

Either admit that white people are more progressive than black people or you have proved progressivism to be a total fraud once and for all.

Muriel is just another self-loathing white queen who gladly looks the other way at anti-gay hate speech while any criticism of black people is verboten.

I've said the before, I'll say it again. A Boulder cop was vacationing in the bar I worked at in 2004. He hated the Lakers and Kobe. He told me the sex was totally consensual. The rape allegation was a money grab. I guess I'm gonna take a cop who worked the case over online myths.

The white race has done more to advance gay rights than every other race put together. That is a fact. The more you try to debate that fact, the stupider you look.

R97: cops have been known to lie before.

R93 Because, sweetie, screaming the n-word back at people who are screaming the f-word at us makes us no better than them. Gay men should have higher standards for our behavior than the insane and homophobic ghetto people. Normally I don't advocate for being the bigger man, but this is a time where we're not helping our case by fighting fire with fire... or bigotry with bigotry, in this case.

"Don't fight fire with fire" is an idiotic cliché that has no connection to scientific reality:

R98 White people do have a better track record as far as gay rights goes than black people, but all the Stonewall in the world isn't going to convince me that we should be flinging racist insults in response to having homophobic insults flung at us. If you somebody is screaming at you and you don't respond it makes the screamer look crazy. If you both scream back at each other then it makes both of you look crazy.

The truth only hurts if it ought to. The sexual assault did happen.

R97 fucking duh you could tell the cops knew that eager beaver had money signs for eyes.

That "you're no better" crap is just that: crap. That's exactly the point. Gays ARE better than those who hate us no matter what we do. We literally cannot be worse than our oppressors even if we tried. But after everything they've done to us, they have earned verbal retaliation.

Kobe was as guilty as Bill Cosby, O.J. Simpson, R. Kelly, and Jussie Smollett. The NBA paid off the LAPD to hush it up.

Racism is not determined by what is being said but by who is saying it. Ergo, the word "nigger" is only racist when heterosexuals use it, not when gay people use it as payback for niggers who refuse to stop calling us faggots.

R104 You're right that we cannot be worse than our oppressors, but we can be something worse than that: we can be at their level.

Kobe is guilty. This is a fact. But if a black person calls you a faggot for saying that, you don't turn to them and call them the n-word. The oppressed copying the oppressors makes us look like assholes instead of victims.

[quote]I don’t recall hearing kobe raping women recently ! All I heard was him being a great father and philanthropist..and strong supporter of womens athletics.. Do these dingbats not think a person can evolve for the better??

Do you think rape is a crime you can 'evolve' away from? And even if you can, the stain is permanent.

And R97, cops don't have a great track record AT ALL when it comes to believing and supporting women who allege that they've been raped. That guy's commentary isn't worth shit.

Say and write out the word nigger, R106, if you think it's okay to either say or write the word faggot.

I will post the word nigger ten times for every use of anti-gay hate speech.

R108 I can say faggot for the same reason black people can say the n-word. Straight black people shouldn't use the f-word just like we shouldn't use the n-word. I can't believe I'm wasting my time arguing with a troll over why it isn't okay to use slurs unless it's a reclaimed one and you're a part of the group the slur would be directed at.

R87 >

The word is nigger, R110. "N-word" is for four-year-olds. We are all adults here. That "reclamation" crap is just that. Crap. Stop calling gays f----t or I will keep saying nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger nigger [bold][italic]NIGGER[/bold][/italic]!

If you can write out that vile piece of anti-gay hate speech, then you sure as hell can write the word nigger. It's just six little letters.

People get harassed online. It's bullshit, but it happens.

The WaPo reporter got suspended for a tweet of screen shot that happened to show the names of people harassing her, not for tweeting the Kobe rape story.

Make their names public. Let them know that heterosexuality is rape.

R107 it’s not like he dragged some unsuspecting or unconscious girl into his room.. She was a whore , she sought him out. She knew he was married. She told him she liked rough sex. People can tell the difference...and most can tell this was a money grab and Kobe was played.

R2: Reporting on the death of a celeb is different from comforting a loved one. You have some obligation to tell the full story (and not some both sides version, but warts and all without apology or embroidery). And who knows someone comforting his wife in private might discover that she never forgave him or down deep thought he was an asshole. Life is like that.

R114 she got What she deserved for being an unprofessional Cunt

R116 People keep making the argument that she knew what she was getting into and that she liked to play rough. Even if that's true, don't you think there's a difference between rough sex and vaginal trauma? You don't find the fact that she had multiple lacerations inside of her vagina odd at all?

Unprofessional? It's not enough to say he raped someone. It helps to put names to the faces. That's how they turned the public against Cosby. Except he didn't die; he just got caught.

R119 You know what your insides will be ripped inside out when you get with a 6’7 man with a BBC! It’s no surprise her vagina had damage.

So the word nigger is off-limits but the black male penis stereotype is not?

People can evolve - it does not mean they were not a rapist. He raped a 19 year old girl, choked her and left her with vaginal contusions. He ended up settling with her for an undisclosed amount of money and admitting that even though he did not think it was non-consensual he could understand how she thought it was unconsenual (the oddest admission of guilt ever).

FF the racist(s)

FF the homophobes.

R119 I find it more odd she had been with 3-4 men in a few days, cumdump bottom numbers lol

Calling a gay person ray-cyst is just a thinly veiled way of shouting "faggot, faggot." Typical nigger-lover homophobia. Stand up for GAY people for a change, you fucking hypocrites!

Homophobic nigger-loving crackers always hide behind homophobic niggers to justify their cracker homophobia. The source is the same: Christianity and Islam. They took Judaism's biggest flaw and made it exponentially worse.

News flash: if someone agrees to have sex with you, that doesn't mean they've signed a contract with you to do whatever you feel like doing, whether you want to or not. Anal sex is just not part of the standard repetoire of a heterosexual one night stand and Kobe knew it. He just felt like humiliating that woman and causing her some pain and humiliation for his own amusement. Just because he legally got away with it doesn't make it right or mean that he's not a sadistic sexual abuser.

Heterosexuality is rape. What kind of man thinks homosexuality is wrong but forcing yourself on a woman is not?

After this, I no longer feel guilty about only finding white men attractive.

R131 I've never felt guilty about that and I don't really think any other gay man with the preference should. It makes sense.

r24, I wouldn't call anyone a loser when you're stalking people's posts. Go back to LSA, bitch.

[quote] People change and this man has been a supporter of all the dykes in the wnba, and they loved him!

Not this dyke. A rapist is threat to all women, including lesbians. In case you didn't know, straight male rapists don't really care whether you are attracted to them or not. So you don't get to speak for other women.

[quote] He told me the sex was totally consensual. The rape allegation was a money grab. I guess I'm gonna take a cop who worked the case over online myths.

Why? Was he there?

[quote] fucking duh you could tell the cops knew that eager beaver had money signs for eyes.

So, I guess when cops routinely target black males over all others, they are also correct?

[quote]She was a whore , she sought him out. She knew he was married. She told him she liked rough sex. People can tell the difference...and most can tell this was a money grab and Kobe was played.

Even promiscuous women and whores can and do get raped - actually, they get raped quite a lot, because men don't even see them as human. And 'most can tell this was a money grab' is wishful thinking on your part. MOST people outside of the current grief orgy recognize that what Bryant did was shady as fuck.

Has he raped other women since? Did more women come out and accuse him after they saw that whore get her huge pay day???

Rapists usually do it mroe than once especially if they get away with it.

[quote] So, I guess when cops routinely target black males over all others, they are also correct?

Yeah, sure. They always target black men.

Sorry to intrude on your hero worship of a rapist.

The NBA has deep pockets after all those sweetheart deals with Nike and Reebok.

I doubt Kobe would be defended and protected like this if he wasn't a black athlete.

The bulk of the posters who've been in these threads are so transparent. In any #metoo (or #metoo adjacent) DL thread, most of the comments show absolutely no sympathy for the woman who accused a known [bold]serial[bold] predator, demand that people get over it because it happened 'so long ago', and bemoan "Cancel Culture". But suddenly, we're supposed to believe that DL commentators give a shit about the woman Kobe raped, give a shit about the safety of females in general, understand the nuances of consent and power imbalances, don't think a nearly 20-year old accusation is too old to still be bringing up, and want Kobe canceled? Most of you are just attention-seeking contrarians that desperately want to be seen as a special little snowflake for going against the trend. If you genuinely give a shit about sexual assault victims, you'll keep this same level of outrage the next time Kevin Spacey, Casey Affleck, or some other Hollywood figure gets accused.

The bulk of the posters who've been in these threads are so transparent. In any #metoo (or #metoo adjacent) DL thread, most of the comments show absolutely no sympathy for the woman who accused a known [bold]serial[/bold] predator, demand that people get over it because it happened 'so long ago', and bemoan "Cancel Culture". But suddenly, we're supposed to believe that DL commentators give a shit about the woman Kobe raped, give a shit about the safety of females in general, understand the nuances of consent and power imbalances, don't think a nearly 20-year old accusation is too old to still be bringing up, and want Kobe canceled? Most of you are just attention-seeking contrarians that desperately want to be seen as a special little snowflake for going against the trend. If you genuinely give a shit about sexual assault victims, you'll keep this same level of outrage the next time Kevin Spacey, Casey Affleck, or some other Hollywood figure gets accused.

r145 please direct me to news reports making any of the men you referenced out to be saints please.

I read the police report. there was no anal. she also had sex with at least another man. how do we know her damage wasn't caused by the other guy? she was so traumatized by the rape that she had sex with another man just days after ( i read this on the internet...not sure if true). Too bad she wasn't a virgin...would have been easier to believe her.

I'm on the fence.

Get off your high horse, r145. No one has any problem calling white men out on sexual abuse, and because they're white, no one makes a big deal out of it, including white people. But if a black celebrity gets accused of something (Kobe, Bill Cosby, MJ), black people go into meltdown mode and talk about the accused like he was a saint.

Anytime a black man is accused of sexual assault people claim racism and that he's being persecuted due to being a black man. This is how R. Kelly was able to evade the law for so long despite his very public relationship with the underage and non-consenting Aaliyah (he raped her in public and on camera, let's not forget) and how he was able to evade prison after being videotaped pissing on a little girl for sexual pleasure. Black rapists hide behind the race card.

So only virgins are viable rape victims? Non-virgins can be raped with impunity?

She can pursue him, she can have an active sex life. She can dress how she wants. He is a grown married man with children. He has the option of saying No thanks I am married. Why is he absolved of all guilt while she gets labeled a homewrecking whore? He left visible bruising on her neck, she had vaginal contusions and bruising. Even if she told him "I want you to assault me" He can say no. He should never be in that position. Just because he died does not erase the terrible things he has done. To quote Bette Davis - why should I be nice to her just because she died?

A bunch of BernieBros took to Twitter to say that Kobe was simply a rich millionaire whose death was actually good because he was rich, and all the richies should die, because they think that's what socialism is all about. "If you care then you're a capitalist dupe" etc. etc.

They didn't get even a fraction of the hate that women journalists who merely tweeted legitimate news articles did. That was pretty telling.

They can (and in my opinion should, in this moment) be scolded and tsk-tsked, but certainly not harassed or fired.

[quote]But if a black celebrity gets accused of something (Kobe, Bill Cosby, MJ), black people go into meltdown mode and talk about the accused like he was a saint.

Bill Cosby was outed by black comic Hannibal Burress although he had been before that time people listened.

And most black people know MJ had major issues (and many black comics have talked about it) but that didn't stop white people from doing the Thriller Dance at weddings.

But let someone point out something about Elvis chasing after 14 year old girls and people lose their minds. Mick Jagger, Steven Tyler, David Bowie and other have had similar allegations.

With Kobe there were black and white people upset about reporters pointing out his rapist past.

It's not always a "black and white" thing.

He was a rapist and a homophobe and I'm glad he's dead.

You’re sick r155. Watch yourself

r129 if you are going to be a whore for hire, you better know what you are getting into, especially if you have a celebrity. She wanted to have sex with him. She let herself be blinded by his superstar sports status. You have to ask these guys some questions before you let them run all that dick through you. Especially someone of his size. Men do not fuck whores to make love, they want a good nut. Will Smith allegedly tore up some guys asshole, but he kept that that shit out of the media.

Kobe was a damn fool to sleep with that woman. He knew he had roughneck tendencies and shouldve just stuck with this regular mistress who could handle and enjoyed that kind of stuff. He was horny and greedy 25 year old. I remember him being so rude and smug at this time. If he would've died then it would've been a different story.

R26, I'm not black but I am a long time DLer and it's people like you who are the reason DL has gone to shit. You're the reason if a non-white person does anything negative anywhere on the planet, you come to the thread (or can't wait to start it) like a jackal hearing a dinner bell to go off about entire groups of people.

Don't think many of us don't notice that if a white person does something similar or far worse, it doesn't become an all-out racist thread attacking an entire group.

People like you are the equivalent of Trump's tweets: "Thoughts & Prayers" if a white guy goes on a shooting rampage.

Endless, hateful tweets if a brown guy so much as farts anywhere on earth.

Bryant’s victim wasn’t a hooker. She was a hotel employee. (I realize some men have difficulty discerning the difference between the two.)

Who are all these people claiming “she asked for it” or “she deserved it”? She was a hotel maid. So hotel maids are there for the raping, for any entitled celebrity? He was choking her. He was a big guy and there’s no way she could have gotten away.

This is what women find so offensive. That any woman that crosses the path of a celebrity should be collateral damage, their injuries just laughed off and mocked by the celebrity’s fans. That’s sick.

Anyone who put a celebrity’s whims above another person’s safety is just nuts. The reason he died is that he insisted on flying on an unsafe for flying, bad weather day, and the pilot went along, and now they’re all dead, including his daughter’s classmates and their parents, who probably thought “if Kobe is flying, it must be safe. His pilot must be the best.” But nobody can control the weather, famous or not.

His entitlement is what killed him in the end, and unfortunately a lot of other people with him.

[quote]Bryant’s victim wasn’t a hooker. She was a hotel employee.

Darling, the two aren't mutually exclusive. Many people who have have random sex for payment also have day jobs. And even if she wasn't selling it, she should've known the risks of fooling around with professional athletes, who aren't known for their prudence. Its not fair to compare her to women who have been forced against their will, who have been beaten violently. She wanted that black dick. They were both incredibly dumb in this incident.

R161 is conflating his personal rape fantasy that “all women want it” with reality.

No, women don’t deserve to be raped because they’re doing their job within the proximity of an athlete. What makes you think “she wanted to be raped?“ Because you’re a rapist yourself and refuse to admit women have free will? You’re insane.

[quote] Get off your high horse, [R145]. No one has any problem calling white men out on sexual abuse, and because they're white, no one makes a big deal out of it, including white people. But if a black celebrity gets accused of something (Kobe, Bill Cosby, MJ), black people go into meltdown mode and talk about the accused like he was a saint.

Ma’am come back when the majority of this country’s white population isn’t continuing to support the serial sexual predator and rapist that they elected president, even after a dozen allegations and his grab them by the pussy tape. Come back when Robe Lowe no longer has a career and Datalounge is no longer lusting over him. There are many double standards in this country and none of them favor nonwhites.

No you are completely missing the point r162. Whether she was on her job or not is completely irrelevant. That woman WANTED to have sex with Kobe Byrant in that moment. She gave him permission to have sex with her. Rape is a non consensual act where someone is forced against their will. There are real rape victims out there who have not consented. This woman made it harder for those people to come forward, the severity of this crime is not taken seriously because of people like her! Being promiscuous is fine, but you do not get to accuse anyone of rape when you are having consensual sex with them. NO.

In her account of the incident the victim consented to being kissed but not to Bryant unexpectedly grabbing her by her throat, bending her over a chair, and shoving his dick inside her. (He didn’t ask her if he could; he just did it.) Before Bryant bent her over the chair she tried to leave but he blocked her exit. If you read her account in conjunction with Bryant’s dismissive statements to the police it paints a fairly damning picture.

[quote] This woman made it harder for those people to come forward, the severity of this crime is not taken seriously because of people like her!

Yeah, like I believe for a second you care.

Believe whatever you want r166. Rape is a serious crime and real victims should not be questioned because of social stigma caused by these groupies having random sex with rich celebrities/politicians/athletes etc and calling it rape. Fuck that. There are real people out here getting taken advantage of.

KOBE BRYANT’S DEATH IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE CRUCIFIXION!!

[quote] Rape is a serious crime and real victims should not be questioned because of social stigma caused by these groupies having random sex with rich celebrities/politicians/athlet - es etc and calling it rape.

Well, if you have a problem with that, why don't you bitch about law enforcement that throw out rape kits and treat every rape victim like filth. If you're dumb enough to think they wouldn't be doing that no matter what, I don't know what to tell you. It's obvious that you don't care about rape victims and just looking for another excuse to trash women.

R144. Pretty sure people were outraged by Harvey Weinstein. And actually Casey Affleck and Spacey. And Cosby and R Kelly. They all got away with it for a very long time. Rape isn't looked at as a very serious crime by men unless it leads to murder including little boys and little girls. What's your point?

Do the LSA fraus here know that LSA is owned by a white man who lives in NY and that they have paid employees using sock puppet accounts to drive up ad view traffic and push various (mostly bigoted) perspectives? LSA shares a domain name server, eom, with Stormfront.

Before there even was a trial, somehow her information got out - the tabloids published her name and did hatchet jobs on her about how she was a loose woman and has sex with 4-5 men at the same time..

R172 you wanted them to lie and pretend she was a nun?

Why the flying fuck are Gay men defending a piece of shit rapist homophobe? Like do you idiots hate yourselfs that much?

[quote] Why the flying fuck are Gay men defending a piece of shit rapist homophobe?

Because he’s black. If he was white, they’d still want sex with him, like some of the pathetic losers here still lusting after Kirk fucking Cameron, who would gladly send every last one of us to a concentration camp.

[quote]Why the flying fuck are Gay men defending a piece of shit rapist homophobe?

How do you know it's gay men, and not straight black women?

Both sides are getting their points across. And, per usual, it’s going to get a little messy and confrontational.

Who cares? This is stupid.

R174 Gay men aren't defending him, black people and deranged fans who have clearly found this site through googling his name (or were already here beforehand trolling) are defending him. Gay men see him for what he is: a homophobic rapist who used both his influence through celebrity and the race card to escape paying for his crimes and bigotry.

Twitter accounts who mention the rape case are being condemned as racist, white feminist, and/or mindless MeToo acolytes. That a reporter for a major newspaper should have her job endangered for posting about it is obscene and a cause for alarm.

This is hard evidence that money transcends race. I don't care what bullshit people want to spout about the justice system being racist next time a black celebrity is on trial, Kobe is living (well not anymore but) proof that being a rich celebrity gets you out of anything, no matter the color of your skin.

R165 the accuser went to a party after the encounter and bragged that she fucked Kobe. She also talked about how huge his cock was. That is quite damning in terms of lying about what had happened to her.

R165 the accuser went to a party after the encounter and bragged that she fucked Kobe. She also talked about how huge his cock was. That is quite damning in terms of lying about what had happened to her.

[quote]Why the flying fuck are Gay men defending a piece of shit rapist homophobe? Like do you idiots hate yourselfs[sick] that much?

First, he made amends for the use of that word ten fucking years ago. Perhaps if you actually gave a shit, you'd know that, but he's black so he's not allowed to redeem himself.

Second, if he were white, his race wouldn't even be brought up by most of the racist shits who make up this site and this thread wouldn't be this hateful. On the contrary, they'd be lusting for him if he were actively homophobic. Most of the fucking white athletes are hardcore Republicans, but I guess that's OK with this site as they post threads about them and drool away.

Third, the rape thing is used as a cudgel specifically because he's black and a supposed "homophobe" and while some are defending him, I don't on this matter. I think bringing it up when he's dead is meaningless because he doesn't hear you. Only his wife and surviving kids hear you and there's no point in further hurting them. These reporters had years to do this and stupidly chose a time when he's dead.

Fourth, "yourselfs" isn't a word, ignoramus.

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His wife and mother of his children is a white latina. You can save all the overwrought black victim angle on everything. If he cared that much about his blackness, he would have been with a black woman.

Preach, Lindsey Granger!

R179, you don’t speak for gay men. You probably speak for a certain subset type Of gay men, but many, many bi and gay men are very much unlike you.