How to say 'Hi' to Harry and Meghan, according to an etiquette expert

As an American, I bow to NO ONE. Not ever. People died so I would never have to bow in my life. And I'm not doing it

This chick is dead wrong.

If they're no longer to be treated like they're royal (as the loss of the HRH style signals), they get no bows and no curtsies from [italic]anyone.[/italic]

Royalty is over. Just say how ya doin'

I'm curious. In America it's actually correct to refuse to bow to a monarch, royal, or aristocrat.

Is it considered proper in Canada?

Canada is in the commonwealth, R4

"We have to remember that Harry will always be royal," she added. "It's in his blood."

Get that boy on Truvada, STAT!

Now that there is no longer a political component, no one should bow to them, as they are no longer symbols of the UK or stand-ins for the queen.

THIS is what bugs me about this whole situation - they want all the trappings of being royals, money, prestige, deference, but NONE of the duty or responsibilities or the negative aspects of living in public eye or the restrictions of decorum associated with that position.

[quote] I'm curious. In America it's actually correct to refuse to bow to a monarch, royal, or aristocrat.

[quote] Is it considered proper in Canada?

The Queen is among many other things the Queen of Canada. It would thus behoove her subjects there as in the UK to bow to her,

Behooved...we all know how painful THAT can be.

I bow to no one.

Is presenting hole appropriate?

Curtsy to Meghan Markle.....my gay husband and I will certainly do that if we run into them at Whole Foods. We are practising our curtsy now.

[quote] THIS is what bugs me about this whole situation - they want all the trappings of being royals, money, prestige, deference, but NONE of the duty or responsibilities or the negative aspects of living in public eye or the restrictions of decorum associated with that position.

Did either of them ask for this or did a random stranger? If you’re a American why would you give 2 fucks either way?

Honestly, if I met them outside a professional setting, I'd probably say "Hey Harry! Wanna ditch the wifey and get a beer?".

R4 Yes most Americans do not bow. America has never had a king or queen, not since we established ourselves as an independent nation.

The constitution outright bans any bestowal of royalty or nobility. And even the president is treated as our social equal. The proper way to greet him or her is with a handshake, which is something equals do to each other. Not a bow, which is something you only do to your social betters.

Presidents have gotten into political trouble at home even for seeming to be too deferential to monarchs abroad. They aren't supposed to bow either.

Just say hi?

What should I do with the two cream pies I brought to the occasion to present to their entitled, self-important, clueless and greedy mugs?

If I ever ran into those two, I’d pretend not to see them.

However. If introduced, I’d give them a big old American-style HUG.

“I’m American. We hug.”

If I was in England I would probably bow like the tennis players do at Wimbledon. At home, naw.

I would fist bump Harry and give Meghan an ironic, no-contact double air kiss.

What's wrong with a good old-fashioned '70s soul-style handshake?

Would never bow to them. I think the whole idea of a royal family that is funded by tax payers is ridiculous. I can't believe there hasn't been a serious revolt in the U.K. about it.

I believe at least half of the US population could pass them on the street and not know who they are.

[quote]THIS is what bugs me about this whole situation - they want all the trappings of being royals, money, prestige, deference, but NONE of the duty or responsibilities or the negative aspects of living in public eye or the restrictions of decorum associated with that position.

[quote]Did either of them ask for this or did a random stranger? If you’re a American why would you give 2 fucks either way?

Being an American (or Brit) has nothing to do with anything. I don't care based on nationality or some idiotic notion of patriotism. Nor do I care based on some unhinged love for the BRF or nobility.

The underlying attitude of entitlement and behavior reflects a broader social problem that can be summarized by the old Dire Straits song - they want money for nothing and chicks for free. The only abdication going on with those two is of personal responsibility and accountability.

Harry has been benefiting from being a prince and Diana's son his entire life. He's been enjoying all the privileges of rank and his position his entire life. Implicitly and explicitly, he was afforded all of that with the expectation that he would accept his responsibilities.

Sure, they wanted to grand and royal wedding that cost taxpayers millions. Fine. That can be accepted as part of state ceremony, tradition, and the increase in business arising from tourism and other economic benefits (if you believe that the BRF has a positive economic impact), as well as improving global perception and standing of the UK. The taxpayers footed the bill with the expectation that they would engage in all of the duties and responsibilities associated with being "senior royals."

But, after going through all the hubbub, the UK didn't get its money's worth - less than 3 years. Will they be paying the taxpayers back some pro rata amount for the expense? They are well into their 30s - yet will "work toward" becoming financially independent - lol.

He's essentially a grifter who is being allowed to gt away with it. He's basically Anna Delvey

Just say no.

Harry's mother literally died fleeing tabloid reporters. She spent years before that under constant siege from them. No, no one in the world is required to endure that for your own entertainment.

Harry and Meghan are free people like you or me and they can choose the life they want to live. There are still plenty of other royals for you to gawk at and you seem to not like the Sussexes anyway so I don't see why you're complaining

What does that have to do with advising Canadians to bow or curtsey to them, R24?

This is how it’s done people.

[quote] As an American, I bow to NO ONE.

Soon you will, or you'll be shot.

[quote] I believe at least half of the US population could pass them on the street and not know who they are.

Don't worry. Megzilla will be sure to inform you.

[quote]Harry's mother literally died fleeing tabloid reporters. She spent years before that under constant siege from them. No, no one in the world is required to endure that for your own entertainment.

[quote]Harry and Meghan are free people like you or me and they can choose the life they want to live. There are still plenty of other royals for you to gawk at and you seem to not like the Sussexes anyway so I don't see why you're complaining

If he were concerned about it, he could have bowed out once he became an adult. He could have foregone the pomp and pageantry of a royal wedding and life on the public dole and in the public eye.

[quote]She spent years before that under constant siege from them.

She also spent years before baiting them, using them, and manipulating them. You act as if her marriage were some Hallmark movie where the prince was hiding his true identity, and she fell madly and passionately in love with a wonderful guy who later turned out to be the next in line for the throne. Her poor decision making before, during, and after her marriage was as much to blame as the immediate predicate event of NOT wearing a seat belt while trying to outrun the paps.

Like Diana before her, Meghan seems not to have truly understood what marrying into the family would mean and the personal costs it would levy, let alone the responsibilities that the privilege required. If there is a role for royalty in modern democratic society, it certainly isn't one of indolence and wealth, doing as one pleases without regard for any other considerations.

They kidding? Never.

One more point - the one thing that makes Kate unquestionably superior to Meghan, having nothing to do with looks, race, or appearances is that Kate seemingly understands what the role entails, what the requirements are, how to perform those duties and requirements, and what her place in the entire machinery is.

For now at any rate, Kate seems to have gone into the marriage with a very clear idea of what she was getting herself into, both the good and bad. Whatever her expectations were before getting married, she's fulfilled the requirements without making much fuss or causing much turmoil behind the scenes.

LMAO

I would never bow to these clowns. Perhaps Meghan if she stood by the fact that she left the monarchy because it's an archaic tradition. Otherwise these two have accomplished less in their lives than most Americans.

I would greet them in the style of my (late) beloved Uncle Dunnie -- I'd say "Meet my bare hand!" as I thumped their forehead with my palm.

"Like Diana before her, Meghan seems not to have truly understood what marrying into the family would mean and the personal costs it would levy, let alone the responsibilities that the privilege required."

I'm beginning to think that this nobody snagged Harry by listening to his whining about life as a Royal, showering him with false sympathy, and vowing to help him find a way to quit and keep all his privileges and luxuries while ditching the responsibilities.

And I also think she promised more than she can deliver.

I would wait to be spoken to before speaking to them. Then I would say, "I read your press release that you have stepped DOWN from royal duties and obligations." If they reply to that: "I hope you enjoy your time in Canada. I know what it is like to escape a mad nation." That would be it. No bow.

Bow or curtsy to these two especially Markle? GTFO.

I hope these twats make a surprise appearance on the Oscars red carpet, just so I can see the celebrities and their publicists madly trying to decide whether to bow, treat them like equals, or treat them as inferiors.

IF I were in the UL, I might bow to The Queen, but not to anyone else, especially the Sussexes, who need to get lost.

Yeah, whether to bow or not depends on context as well as etiquette.

I'm an American, so if I meet the Queen on American soil, the correct etiquette is not to bow. If I meet the Queen because I've been invited to Buckingham palace, I'm her guest, and I will bow because I'd rather violate American etiquette than embarrass my hostess. If we meet on neutral territory, well, it'd depend on the occasion.

If I meet Meghan and Harry, I'd never even consider bowing. Who the fuck do they think they are.

As an American, I would do a "neck bow." That's a mark of respect, but I wouldn't go any further to exercise my spinal column.

I lose respect for anyone who romanticizes the concept of monarchy or any other form of perceived hereditary superiority.

I imagine the last thing Harry would want at this point is for someone to bow to him.

This whole thing was because Meghan was DONE wearing pantyhose.

I'm apalled at the argument that because "Harry will always be royal, it's in his blood", we should treat him differently. Being a royal only means he comes from a wealthy, overprivileged family, that's all. I'm not British and I'm against the concept of monarchy. When abroad, especially when interacting with people from another country, they should be treated like random citizens. Doubly so because they renounced their title.

But also the info was from an "etiquette expert". I hope Harry himself wouldn't expect bows and curtsies.

Will Bob Iger have to bow before he hands the cheque to Meghan after Harry has won her a role in some Pixar film?