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Landlords can't ask for 'last month's rent' plus security deposit, thanks to new rent laws

It is now illegal in New York state for landlords to require you to pay last month's rent in addition to a month’s security deposit when you sign a lease. New rent reforms clearly state that in nearly all cases, “no deposit or advance shall exceed the amount of one month's rent.”

Nor can landlords require renters with bad credit histories or annual salaries less than 40 to 45 times the monthly rent to pay multiple months of rent up front. In the past, they've typically asked for anywhere from three to 12 months worth of rent.

The new law lowers financial barriers to renting an apartment in New York City, a good thing for most renters. But it complicates things for renters who don't meet the landlords' income requirements (including students and retirees), have a blemish on their credit record or no credit history at all, such as international renters.

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by Anonymousreply 17January 17, 2020 9:00 PM

Elizabeth Stone, the managing agent at Stone Realty Management, says the protections may backfire. "We are going to require guarantors or just reject the tenants outright. So those that have lower incomes are going to miss out because landlords are not going to take the risk," she says.

A lease guarantor is someone who lives in the tri-state area and earns an annual salary of around 80 times the monthly rent. Another option is an institutional guarantor like Insurent (a Brick Underground sponsor), which charges renters a fee for the service, usually 70 to 85 percent of one month's rent for U.S. renters and 90 to 110 percent of one month's rent for international renters without U.S. credit history for the 12 to 14 month lease.

What's the difference between a security deposit and last month's rent anyway?

Your security deposit covers the cost of repairing damages to your apartment, while your last month's rent is pretty much what it sounds like. The two are not supposed to be interchangeable.

While the security deposit is capped at an amount equal to one month's rent, it doesn’t change the fact any rent paid in advance and the deposit are different things and a landlord is entitled to deduct money from the deposit for any costs associated with damage to the apartment when a tenant moves out.

Your lease will make clear what the security deposit is for; it’s designed to make sure you leave a clean, undamaged apartment with a working set of keys so the landlord can easily rent the unit to someone else.

In most buildings with more than six units, the landlord is required by law to put the security deposit in escrow, giving the tenant more protections than if the money was in a private account.

The practice of not paying the last month's rent

Some New Yorkers claim they never pay their last month’s rent, figuring the security deposit can stand in as the rent.

Adam Frisch, managing principal at Lee & Associates Residential NYC, a real estate company representing building owners in Manhattan, says a tenant might tell a landlord, "I’m not going to initiate the final rent payment and you can keep my security and there’s nothing you can do about it." He says they are right, "there isn’t much we can do about it," but if there's damage to the apartment, a landlord would be entitled to sue to recover the costs.

"Tenants have gotten away with this and will continue to do so, but they are not supposed to," he says. Certainly, in situations where the apartment needs nothing more than a lick of paint, there's no loss to the landlord.

Getting landlords and tenants in sync

In the past, the security deposit was legally required to be returned in a 'reasonable' time frame, a vague term that gave renters no reassurances. Landlords must now pay back the security deposit within 14 days of the end of the tenancy.

This has some landlords furious, saying the timing is too tight to assess and price out any damage or close the escrow account where the security is held. They are also required to do walk-throughs at the beginning and end of a tenancy so any damage can be properly itemized.

If walk-throughs allow renters to work towards correcting any issues and they know they will get their deposit back promptly, it's possible landlords may find it cuts down on the practice of using the deposit as the last month's rent.

Stone disagrees, pointing out the kind of tenant who makes a landlord take the security deposit as the final rent payment is the same kind of tenant who doesn't take care of their rental during their tenancy.

"Limiting how much money [a landlord] can take up front and limiting the security deposit is designed to stop tenants being excluded from some of these apartments but I don't think in practicality, it will work for them," she says.

by Anonymousreply 1January 17, 2020 2:26 PM

It's amazing how any action to curb landlord abuses is characterized by landlords as hurting tenants.

by Anonymousreply 2January 17, 2020 2:31 PM

It does hurt tenants, though. It applies to protect the lowest common denominator and "good" tenants get screwed.

In Chicago, Security Deposits are over-regulated to the point where it's risky to even charge one. So what does that mean? High, non-refundable move in fees and some of the more expensive buildings will charge move-out fees as well. So even if your apartment is immaculate, you pay this non-refundable amount anyway to "spread the wealth" and cover damages incurred by shit tenants that trash the place.

Cook County also has a "just housing ordinance" protecting felons and criminals. Now it's too onerous to do criminal background checks. I won't detail it here, but the administrative component is not worth it. Hello living next to sex offenders. Again: protections for the lowest common denominator. Par for the course in big blue cities.

by Anonymousreply 3January 17, 2020 2:53 PM

The thing is you can't make a comparison to red-state cities because no one wants to live in the deserted hellscape that is Republican America. There are only 2 states that consistently vote republican that anyone wants to live in - Texas and Florida. And a big reason they are still red is that they do all they can to stop brown people from voting.

by Anonymousreply 4January 17, 2020 3:01 PM

People of Chicago and NYC voted for this. R3 So Why cry over this?

by Anonymousreply 5January 17, 2020 3:20 PM

And no one in NYC is shedding tears for the poor, over-regulated landlord.

by Anonymousreply 6January 17, 2020 3:32 PM

Kind of a non-issue. Most people can just buy low-cost security deposit insurance and skip the security deposit altogether.

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by Anonymousreply 7January 17, 2020 3:38 PM

[quote]In Chicago, Security Deposits are over-regulated to the point where it's risky to even charge one. So what does that mean? High, non-refundable move in fees and some of the more expensive buildings will charge move-out fees as well.

This in a nutshell. NYC has always has "key deposit" and so has SF and LA. Non refundable CASH ONLY deposit on their keys.

by Anonymousreply 8January 17, 2020 3:39 PM

I've lived in NYC for 30 years and never paid a key deposit. Never heard of one outside hotels.

by Anonymousreply 9January 17, 2020 3:42 PM

I lived in NYC and SF and never paid a key deposit either, but I have looked many places and read many ads that have them.

by Anonymousreply 10January 17, 2020 3:49 PM

R5 - most people do NOT vote for this, and most do not even know about the regulations or how they work. They are no fans of not getting any money back from a security deposit - for example - but won't understand the reason why there isn't one to begin with.

With the "Just Housing Ordinance" it is little publicized, done at the county level, with limited press (as most regulations are). I'd wager that 97/100 people would have no idea what you're talking about or what that means. If they understood the policy outcome means unvetted neighbors that may be hardened criminals, then yes they would absolutely care.

by Anonymousreply 11January 17, 2020 3:50 PM

NYC is going to shit and they are on the express lane to do it

There is no bail for criminals and now this. I'm so glad I moved out of there

by Anonymousreply 12January 17, 2020 4:45 PM

I am happy criminals can walk free now. Give these white fuck transplants what they DESERVE

by Anonymousreply 13January 17, 2020 4:47 PM

R13, Are you black?

by Anonymousreply 14January 17, 2020 4:49 PM

R14 NOPE

by Anonymousreply 15January 17, 2020 4:50 PM

This is one of the ONLY good things to have been done by government for housing in years. There is nothing bad about this - except for landlords. Totally pro-tenant and ensures a supply of affordable housing due to limited vacancy decontrol. The harassment to get out tenants and the games to do unnecessary, overpriced repairs to jack up rents is over. Thank you Cuomo!

For the tired argument that “economics theory says this hurts supply” - no. The only thing eliminating rent control would do is transfer a HUGE amount of wealth into the pockets of landlords. It would be a redistribution of wealth of massive proportion from the middle class TO LANDLORDS. Anyone who thinks NYC landlords should be handed billions should be shot.

by Anonymousreply 16January 17, 2020 6:17 PM

Oh Jesus Christ here we go. The same mean, spiteful, terrified assholes who left NYC years ago but can't stop themselves from shitting on it online came out of the woodwork to cry about ending Stop and Frisk. OMG CRIME WILL DOUBLE IT'S THE BAD OLD DAYS ALL OVER AGAIN!!!! Then nothing bad happens and they won't re-assess their notions. And now bail reform happens and the SAME people are panicking and fear mongering all over again. Don't listen to them. They're dumb crazy assholes.

by Anonymousreply 17January 17, 2020 9:00 PM
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