Warren's GOP Past

Gosh, if you were truly Our Millennial Friend, you would know that your fucking Pete shit is out of control.

Get some fucking help!

She will raise taxes on the struggling middle class and they will not vote for her. Only those making less than $60,000/year or over $300-400,000/ year will vote for her. The poors because they won't have to pay any tax increases and will get free medical care and free college and all college debt taken away. The rich liberals don't need to worry about tax increases. The middle class will be burdened with increased taxes to pay for others' medical care, while they will pay extra fees and other taxes to support Warren's give aways.

Her Medicare for all plan with the trillions of dollars budget was the kiss of death for Warren and she has fallen steadily never to rise again.

Her switch came when she was in her mid-50s, so raises the question about why then. Yes, one could buy her explanation of finally doing research and learning the facts. What else hasn't she done her research one or what other facts might she learn to change her point of view so radically?

Her switch came at a convenient time as she was shifting into a more public role and seeking support for public and appointed positions. At that time, which party had more opportunities for middle-aged women? Was there a change of perspective or cynical switch of lipservice to achieve her personal/professional goals? Her past claims of being an American Indian to further her career provide an insight into how she might think about such things.

Why has she not raised and discussed this switch before it was raised by others? Wouldn't discussing such a change be a powerful message? Why would she wait so long to address her past? Also, she only loosely addresses bankruptcy and her view of "deadbeats." What about the enormous amount of work she did for corporations, such as assisting them against breast cancer survivors and other women who had faulty implants, among countless others.

Let's not forget that she's also relatively wealthy, now. Is she suddenly concerned or slamming the door behind her? She speaks of healthcare - does she happen to mention that her daughter is a co-founder of HealthAllies, now part of UnitedHealthcare? Her daughter made a fortune off of creating the problem her supposed healthcare policy would fix.

Aren't the former sinners the most welcome by god. There are some people who do bad things that finally have a realization and they turn around. They find their conscience. Hillary belonged to the Republican Party too. Didn't hold it against her.

Hillary was a Republican in high school R4, and although she was a Democrat by the time she was in college, That Thing About Her meant people held the "Goldwater Girl" thing against her forever.

Warren, as R3 notes, switched sides in her 40s.

[quote]Hillary belonged to the Republican Party too. Didn't hold it against her.

LOL - HRC was a republican until 1968 when she was roughly 19 years old - essentially a freshman in college. Many people don't question their beliefs until they've actually had some life experience and met different people. I think we can let it slide that she was a republican while she was in high school.

[quote]There are some people who do bad things that finally have a realization and they turn around.

True. There are two issues: first was there a true turnaround or merely a cynical and self-serving change of her publicly stated opinions. Second, she spent 30+ years actively waging battle as a foot soldier working against the types of policies she now advocates. Therefore, her epiphany should reflect that. I also find it very difficult to believe that in all those 30 years she NEVER came across any information, given she was an expert in bankruptcy law, that might suggest to her that her previously held views may require refinement. To achieve that level of expertise is not simply about the legal technicalities of bankruptcy statutes, but requires deep knowledge of data and facts surrounding bankruptcy filings.

The rationale for her changing her perspective is suspect.

Also, if she was in her 50s when she switched her opinion so wildly, who's to say that she might not learn something new next week that would alter her opinion, this time with a lot more to lose by making such a change of heart public.

I'm not suggesting people can't have an epiphany. I'm saying that the new insight needs to reflect both a credible basis for change, be sufficiently proportional to the stated change, and be consistent with other ideologies expressed to be truly believable and credible.

Anybody is better than trump

[quote]Anybody is better than trump

I can think of several people for whom that statement is false.

AOC, to name one example.

AOC is definitely better than trump.

Too late for her to “rebrand” herself. Going after Pete with the whole “wine cave” attack just shows how desperate and hypocritical she is. The more I find out about her, the less I like her.

She should have stayed a professor--politics changed her. I think.

Back when Warren was up to head the new consumer protection agency, I was a big fan.

Just goes to show the lasting truth of the Peter Principle.

I think Warren is manic. Diagnosable freak.

Nice try, Boris @ r2.

We’re not talking about back-breaking taxes here. The middle class will save money overall in a money pool of greater economy of scale, without atomistic competition and corporate tricks and fuckery of private insurance rapists.

Wow. The Pete and Bernie fanatics, and the Trump trolls, are really exhausting.

Too bad Gen. Wesley Clark would be considered "too old," John Edwards too irreparably damaged, and former NOLA mayor/state senator Mitch Landrieu too unknown to run. I'd vote for any of them in a heartbeat. Or Eric Holder.

As it is, Warren, Biden, and my girl Amy have my support. I can't see myself backing Pete, Bernie, or The Billionaires unless they win the nomination.

Who let r15 out of 2004?

She belongs in the Republican Party, too.

Screw you, R16. If you have a point to make, make it.

"Nice try, Boris "

You are why the Democrats will lose to Trump. I am a life long Democrat who finds myself paying $1200/month for shitty health insurance (essentially a Medicaid HMO with limited providers/network) - in my state (NY), there are NO ACA plans that are PPO's with out of network coverage. Meanwhile, I pay the highest state taxes.

Young people don't vote. Many poor don't vote. It is the middle class that decides elections and if the Democratic candidate is someone who may increase the growing burden on the middle class, she will not win.

What about it? People do, in fact, change over time.

[Bold] What do DLer's think?[/Bold]

I will be voting the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination to Bernie Sanders.

And let me guess: she supported cutting medical funding during the ‘80s when Gay Men were literally dying on the streets and Republicans wouldn’t even say the word AIDS.

That nobody is discussing her past just shows how little breeders care about us.